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>> No.39773472
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.39773477

surely Kiara's creatividad won't get mogged by Kronii playing a kusoge r-right?

>> No.39773488

>>39773477
probs not im expecting 6500 cap for this hour.

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>>39773442
Recent clip numbers
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* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>82,796: Kanata (Hololive)
>52,418: Miko (Hololive)
>38,182: Nene (Hololive)
>31,699: Pekora (Hololive)
>27,718: Nornis (Nijisanji)
>21,842: Koyori (Hololive)
>19,580: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>17,931: Subaru (Hololive)
>15,926: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>15,812: Patra (774 inc)
>14,054: Mito (Nijisanji)
>13,066: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,900: Salome (Nijisanji)
>12,196: Okayu (Hololive)
>12,062: Chloe (Hololive)
>11,961: NeruMero (Indie)
>11,679: Iroha (Hololive)
>11,628: Ange (Nijisanji)
>11,278: Ratna (Nijisanji)
>10,560: Shu (Nijisanji)
>10,215: Watame (Hololive)
>10,185: Koyori (Hololive)

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>>39773530
>DECEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,863 - Birthday totsumachi
2) Miko (Hololive) - 43,734 - Molly Online w/Suisei
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 119,225 - 2 million subs celebration 3D
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 108,918 - Niji MK Cup rules & lottery
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,711 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
6) Mio (Hololive) - 69,368 - New outfit reveal
7) Mio (Hololive) - 88,166 - 4th anniversary 3D live
8) Fubuki (Hololive) - 34,626 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
9) Hisui (Nijisanji) - 43,193* - 3D debut
10) Hex (Nijisanji) - 59,875 - Debut stream
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 177,944* - Niji MK Cup qualifiers
12) Miko (Hololive) - 55,852 - Party Panic collab w/Polka, Fubuki & Suisei
13) Toya (Nijisanji) - 86,262 - Niji MK Cup finals rules & lottery
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,176 - Announcement stream
15) Fulgur (Nijisanji) - 30,227 - Statement on Yugo graduation
16) Miko (Hololive) - 46,343 - Pokemon Scarlet egg hatching
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 110,266 - New outfit reveal
18) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 195,196 - Niji MK Cup finals
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 50,805 - Pokemon Violet w/Koyori
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,091 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
21) Towa (Hololive) - 47,733 - Startend off-collab
22) Watame (Hololive) - 39,051 - Clubhouse 51 gyakutotsu
23) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 72,400 - 3D live
24) Marine (Hololive) - 112,194 - Sister Marine gyakutotsu
25) Toya (Nijisanji) - 127,295 - TouPea Christmas 2022
26) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 61,583 - Nijisanji Mahjong Cup 2023 rules & lottery
27) Kanata (Hololive) - 82,796 - 3rd anniversary 3D live

>PER COMPANY
17x: Hololive
9x: Nijisanji
1x: Isegye Idol

>PER STREAMER
6x: Pekora
3x: Miko, Toya
2x: Mio, Nijisanji
1x: Aqua, Fubuki, Fulgur, Hex, Hisui, Kanata, Lilpa, Marine, Towa, Watame

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
237x: Hololive
111x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Isegye Idol, Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
57x: Pekora
24x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
18x: Aqua
17x: Nijisanji
16x: Salome, Subaru
11x: Marine
9x: Toya
8x: Mio
7x: Kanata, Suisei
6x: Hal, Hololive
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Koyori, Noel, Towa
4x: Chloe, Korone, Okayu, Polka
3x: Ayame, Choco, Fubuki, Lui, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Iroha, Lamy, Laplus, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Watame, Yashiro
1x: AI, Akabane, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fulgur, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hex, Hisui, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Lain, Leos, Lilpa, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Yorumi, Zeta

>> No.39773557

Looks like kronii got a slight boost from the outfit announcement. 5.6k in 15 minutes on a kusoge.

>> No.39773581
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>>39773554
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
238x: Hololive
107x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
55x: Pekora
38x: Miko
29x: Kuzuha
22x: Marine
16x: Suisei
15x: Subaru
11x: Gura, Salome
10x: Nijisanji
8x: Hololive
7x: Fubuki, Korone, Toya
6x: Aqua, Botan, Fuwa
4x: Koyori, Lize
3x: Flare, Hal, Lamy, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Towa, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Vox, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, Ayame, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, IRyS, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Uki, Ver, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui

>> No.39773596

>>39773530
Is this real?

>> No.39773597

>>39773477
People are really gonna pretend that 7k is bad for a Kiara solo stream? Outside of gigabuff events even her karaoke usually gets around that.

>> No.39773610
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Holofriends sales update

> hololive friends with u Tokino Sora 600 $24.00 $14,400.00
> hololive friends with u Hoshimachi Suisei 4535 $24.00 $108,840.00
> hololive friends with u Yuzuki Choco 375 $24.00 $9,000.00
> hololive friends with u Shiranui Flare 990 $24.00 $23,760.00
> hololive friends with u Yukihana Lamy 1575 $24.00 $37,800.00
> hololive friends with u Kazama Iroha 1900 $24.00 $45,600.00
Total: $239,400.00

>> No.39773612

>6k already
The fuck is this? Outfit buff?

>> No.39773615
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>>39773581
>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
231x: Hololive
110x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
2x: 774 Inc., Noripro, VSPO
1x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
42x: Miko
34x: Subaru
33x: Pekora
30x: Kuzuha
17x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
8x: Toya
6x: Koyori
5x: Fubuki, Hal, Lamy, Okayu, Suisei
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Korone, Mori, Shion
3x: Amelia, Choco, Hayato, Hololive, Iroha, Lize, Lui, Rushia, Sasaki
2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Ibrahim, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nerumero, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi
1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Enna, Flare, Gaku, Gatchman, Haachama, Ike, Kaede, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kohaku, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Meloco, Met, Minase, Nene, Noel, Nose, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Roboco, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction

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>>39773442
>>39773472
>>39773508
Stop, Bocchi is not for lewds.
Kita is

>> No.39773631

>>39773557
It's the "only stream in the last 12 hours" buff.

>> No.39773637
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Something feels off...

>> No.39773654

>>39773597
Yes, it's fucking terrible
Myth members used to rule the world
now they can't even hold a podium
what a fucking disgrace

>> No.39773671

>>39773637
kiara literally has triple her subs bro LMAO

>> No.39773683

>>39773654
Myth had no competition back then. Now NijiEN exists and people realize that they are better than Myth

>> No.39773690

>>39773637
Why? Kiara has more subs she'll end up with a bigger VOD over time.

>> No.39773698

>>39773631
Nah its clearly some sort of outfit buff. Many people have streamed in these type of situations before and didn't get any significant increase.
This looks to be 8k ish stream despite being a kusoge and guerilla.

>> No.39773719
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2023-The Rise of Nijisanji EN

>> No.39773728

>>39773690
>>39773671
holotrannies are braindead
I wonder why you even bother responding to them

>> No.39773737

>>39773719
NijiENs rise was Feb 22 to June 22 bro.

>> No.39773744 [SPOILER] 

>>39773619
Bokita lewd then

>> No.39773747

>>39773719
>2023-The Rise of Isegye Idol
there

>> No.39773754

>>39773654
at least give us a kekaroo if you're going to be obnoxious

>> No.39773769

>>39773610
What the fuck Suisei

>> No.39773778

Did the shitposters bans expire?

>> No.39773793

>>39773671
>>39773683
So would she have gotten higher peak than Enna if she streamed in NA or SEA time slot ?

>> No.39773798

>>39773778
>ESL

>> No.39773820

>>39773610
Chocochama...

>> No.39773846

>>39773698
Speedrunners was a popular Youtube Meta for a short time years ago.

>> No.39773848

>>39773442
I want to see vtuber band...

>> No.39773871

Kronii is having an orgasm on stream...

>> No.39773881

Is Kronii a numberfag?

>> No.39773894
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>>39773719
stfu holoreject
you are not worthy of the NIJISANJI name

>> No.39773906

No website leak for HoloEN3

>> No.39773908

New hologlobal gen, 3 EN, 3 JP, 3 KR, 3 ES and 3 TW.

rate my idea.

>> No.39773917

>>39773871
hOLY FUCK ISREAL D4PR58

>> No.39773921

>>39773793
Yes the EU timeslot is garbage. Even Vesper can get 5k peak easily if he streamed in NA or SEA slot.

>> No.39773934

>>39773908
Bad/6

>> No.39773948
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please give fauna twitter follows...

>> No.39773955

There will be no more debut from Cover until the official release of HoloEarth.

>> No.39773972

>>39773908
Sounds like management hell

>> No.39773978

>>39773948
nobody gives a fuck about your green whore
stop begging and move on, it's honestly pathetic

>> No.39773991

EN3 will debut on January 2023

>> No.39774027

>>39773978
Shut up nijitranny.

>> No.39774030

7k kronii quite some bit better than i expected for these ass hours kusoge

>> No.39774043

I believe this >>39773991
I don't believe you >>39773955

>> No.39774058

>>39773948
How did Mumei end up with the nost followers? Wasn't she locked down the longest?

>> No.39774072

>anonchamas making a big deal about a sub 10k stream
The state of EN

>> No.39774083
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So what did we learn from the last thread anons?

>> No.39774098
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I love my WifeRyS!!

>> No.39774104

>>39774083
You are indonesian

>> No.39774108

>>39774083
Jpniggers are extremely insecure

>> No.39774110

>>39773948
I refuse to believe that people actually give a shit about Fauna when it's really not the case the other way around. She actually just doesn't give a shit at all about her audience.
>"I'm stressed :(" completely refuses to properly elaborate and gives some shitty "oh I'm an adult in holiday season" excuse which doesn't make sense at all. Instead just causes needless worrying with no way of knowing if it can get better
>When she takes a break she COMPLETELY disappears with no Twitter activity and doesn't even try to pretend she misses her audience
>"Have I mentioned anything about my break?" She asks then pretends to be distracted and doesn't say anything else
>Refuses to tell stories about family to "protect their privacy" as if anyone knows who they are or can extrapolate who they are if it's not a story that's been in the news
>Rarely does guerillas
>Rarely ever gives back unless forced to. No real projects under her sleeve that wasn't started by someone else.
Anyone who supports this is a fucking idiot.

>> No.39774123

>>39774058
She got the blessing of niji followers from the selen collab.
She also shitposts alot and generally has the most mindchair along with kronii.
iirc she was a little behind kronii for the most of council's existence, i'm surprised she's caught up desu

>> No.39774137

>>39774072
Graduate everyone below 10k

>> No.39774162

>>39774108
The ENshart fears the JPChad

>> No.39774186

>>39774027
>holobrony seething
embarassing stuff
stop begging for follows and views

>> No.39774185

>>39774058
twitter followers is just mindshare and how much you post. Kronii and mumei have more mindshare than the other 2 and thus have more followers. Mumei however tweets alot more than kronii which is why she has more followers than clock.

>> No.39774189

>>39772919
https://youtu.be/GEwaAiwpLSc
Do your indog reps first

>> No.39774201

>>39774083
ENSharts would support Homos over Nijis

>> No.39774237

>>39774083
Ai aqua on b2 isreal

>> No.39774278

>>39774186
I mean of fucking course the Fauna schizo is a nijitranny. Why would I have any doubts?

>> No.39774279

>>39774237
WTF link?

>> No.39774282

>>39773948
who cares. Fauna will forever have a higher floor than all of them

>> No.39774309

>>39774282
Yet still less money than Kronii

>> No.39774324

>>39773948
Bae more followers than subs…

>> No.39774326

>>39774279
Go back to the last thread

>> No.39774340

>>39773948
>Followed by ren Zotto
Sister? care to explain?

>> No.39774357

>>39774282
You fags need to stop coping, no one cares about floors when it means nothing

>> No.39774358

>>39774282
no one gives a fuck about ur floor outside of this thread anon
people want big event numbers, not numbers from some random kusoge stream

>> No.39774379

Bros why the fuck is the beginning of January fucking stacked? PekoMiko pulling all their punches against Niji

>> No.39774385

>>39774340
I was following him to keep track of his leeching tendencies. I will unfollow him now. Thank you for pointing it out.

>> No.39774391

>>39774340
Vox is following Fauna which is worse than a dude who doesn't stream and will probably also get fired

>> No.39774417

>>39774385
Nta, i think he meant the other sister

>> No.39774436

>>39773820
W-what if we redebut her in jp7?

>> No.39774444

>>39774391
following means nothing if u don't interact tho
I would be more concerned with mumei's RM getting replies from shoto

>> No.39774466

>>39774358
Hell, to sponsors the big stream numbers barely matter either. Subs, and being corporate, are the most important factors.
I mean, Jacksepticeye had Coca-Cola as a sponsor in a charity stream that only hovered around 100k.

>> No.39774494

>>39774444
As long as she keeps it out of hololive i couldn't give less of a shit.

>> No.39774497

>>39773820
i already picked the Choco-sensei plush because everyone and their mom already has a Suisei and Choco will get a rarity buff due to how few people bought it.

>> No.39774513

>>39774466
I keep telling you guys number barely matter to sponsors. They want someone who can advertise and represent their brand well, not just any big name

>> No.39774536

>>39774466
>b-b-but ludwig said...

>> No.39774540

>>39773848
https://youtu.be/Ajwv4ANSSg0?t=1744

>> No.39774542

>Kronii is consistently outperforming Fauna
What's the cope for this?

>> No.39774545

>>39774513
That's where Aia and Finana come in. They got the woke cred

>> No.39774554

>>39774201
Based

>> No.39774591

>>39774494
this is what hoomans tell themselves to cope

>> No.39774622

>>39774137
Graduate everyone above 10k midget fights are more entertaining

>> No.39774646

>>39774542
...where is she outperforming Fauna?

>> No.39774660

>>39774542
>2 streams is now consistently outperforming

>> No.39774683

>>39774466
Well youtube already give a green light that holo an advertiser friendly company, just need some effort to get the right advertiser.

>> No.39774724

>>39774660
>2 streams
What's the second?

>> No.39774745

Speaking of sponsored streams:
>Mori DQ: https://youtu.be/XAYmeCX-uSg
>37k VOD views after 2 weeks
>Fauna Random mobile gacha: https://youtu.be/ueqzQJ45tvM
>68k VOD views after 3 weeks
So subcount should’ve mattered right? Or is DQ that much more uninteresting compared to random gacha?( at least for the western audiences)

>> No.39774781

>>39774745
Fauna's VOD was also taken down for 2-3 days because of Kadokawa's bullshit kek

>> No.39774787

>>39774745
didn't ame also stream the dragon quest game? how'd her vod do?

>> No.39774821

Poor Lack-sensei. He just wants to draw brown girls and his finest work, Flare, repudiates him for it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lewDmlyCVYg

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>>39774745
here's the ame DQ stream, 67k in 10 days

>> No.39774845

>>39774444
That csn't be true lol
I mean, I've seen girl_dm there beford, but that's the only one I recognized

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Only 2 people from this collab has their own album.

>> No.39774869 [DELETED] 

>>39773442

>> No.39774872

>>39774821
HOLY SEX

>> No.39774876

>>39774745
The cuckbeats don't really care about Moris content unless it's a middle finger to the unicorns. It has really stifled her ability to promote things that aren't just blatant cuckshit,

>> No.39774892

>>39773848
https://youtu.be/URW8FYZLiX4

>> No.39774920

>>39774466
Are we really going through the "muh sponsors" retarded timeloop again? The last time we went through this shit HoloEN got a bunch of sponsorships and, while they completely overperformed the Niji ones, you had retards complain that they were tanking their averages.
On top of that a lot of ENs made it clear they don't care about it.
>b-buy muh sponsorships are super important for streamers
yeah but Vtubers are not normal streamers, they get way more SCs than average and they have merch and music on their side.

>> No.39774934

>>39774745
Dragon Quest is less popular than whatever random dogshit gacha you can think of in the West and who outside of core fans goes back to watch a shill stream?

>> No.39774958

wait kiar... lost... to african hours kronii kusoge...

>> No.39774981

>>39774958
>Kiara losing
Is this supposed to be surprising?

>> No.39774997

>>39774958
new outfit buff

>> No.39775003

>>39774934
>2m sub
>no core fanbase
Sasuga GRIM reaper

>> No.39775020

>>39774920
Hold on wasn't it the ENfags who claimed sponsorships were more important than anything when they were coping over EN getting fucking mogged in everything else?

>> No.39775048

EN3 is coming sooner than you expect

>> No.39775066

>>39775048
no en3 girl will be cuter than my wife

>> No.39775092

>>39775048
It better be you fag I'm the gullible sort and I can't keep seeing this be said on this fucking website

>> No.39775109

>>39774958
>kronii in seahours with a meme game buff
not surprised

>> No.39775116

>>39774920
>>39775020
Just correct me if I'm wrong, because it's 7AM and I'm dumb, but aren't merch sales the most important things to corporate chuubas? Income-wise, I mean.
Then comes sponsorships and SCs (depending on the cut you get).

>> No.39775121

>>39774892
a full live https://youtu.be/J2SuVzjeiFg?t=932

>> No.39775135

>>39775048
i expected en3 in october nigger...

>> No.39775149

>>39775003
What?
No seriously I don’t understand your point or how it connects to mine. It’s a shill stream overlapped by TGA so only her absolutely core core fans tuned in and it’s a shill stream for a spinoff of a poorly known in the West JRPG so tourists aren’t going to go watch the VoD like they did for her Counterside shill stream.

>> No.39775155

so homos gonna call on every birthday stream then?

>> No.39775162

>>39774934
>Dragon Quest is less popular in the west
I disagree with this. The last major DQ releases (8, 9, and 11) all did very well in the west. Dragon Quest's problem is that Square Enix has no idea how to market the series in the west going all the way back to the retro days when Enix was separate from Squaresoft. The fact that Dragon Quest 8 wasn't immediately scheduled for a next gen remake after DQ11 was both a commercial and critical darling is a huge blunder. Other than the PS2 original the only ways to play that game are a bad mobile port or a 3DS port that is nearly impossible to find. The same thing can be said for there being no ports for 4, 5, and 6 other than Mobile and DS. The fact that those games aren't on Switch and Steam is really baffling.

>> No.39775189

>>39775116
Nobody knows, it's a black box. It's for that reason that merch sales and sponsorships are usually used to claim that a vtuber who is reclining in every visible metric is actually succeeding in the ones that matter and those metrics are totally coincidentally the ones you can't get any actual real data on.

>> No.39775225

>>39775048
WHERE

>> No.39775236

>>39774863
Suisei and?

>> No.39775259

Xsoiled status?

>> No.39775266

>>39775189
stands to reason that if you're getting sponsorships and multiple merch runs that whatever public metrics you're going off of don't actually mean shit to the people making choices and slinging cash around tbqh

>> No.39775295

>>39775189
I wasn't even talking sbout reclining people. I just believed that producing a merch line yourself would let you keep more the profits, and by being in hololive, for example, you'd always sell out. Before it got pstched we could see just how insanely much some holos netted through merched.

>> No.39775332

>>39775259
Already forgotten...

>> No.39775354

>>39775162
Smash Bros buff

>> No.39775360
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>>39775259
Dominating

>> No.39775362

>>39775236
Tamaki

>> No.39775375

>>39775259
Well the new IRyS killer hasn't killed IRyS yet

>> No.39775395

>>39775189
... but all the visible metrics also come out of a black box.

>> No.39775400

>>39775236
The one who graduated

>> No.39775461

Tempiss status?

>> No.39775466

>>39775400
Yugo?

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>>39775362
I thought you were kidding

>> No.39775516

>>39775116
Who the fuck knows, Other than CCV/Vods and SCs we don't have much info. Merch obviously depends on production cost and other factors but if done well they can generate insane profits, and I believe that's the case for Hololive.
Sponsorships are good money but a lot of Holos don't seem really interested in them unless it's something they are personally interested in and can make for a good stream. Which is absolutely understandable, they'd rather work on their brand and building a strong core fanbase than cash in some quick bucks at the expense of their content.
Corporate Vtubing is a whole different beast compared to most other streamers.

>> No.39775554

>>39775466
You're not the brightest of our bunch, are you?

>> No.39775575

>>39775466
Ex Melissa

>> No.39775632

>>39775395
Pretty easy to see the CCV count in real time. The fact that it's not 100% accurate doesn't matter since everyone works within the same ruleset.

>> No.39775636

>>39774863
I mean the very reason why Melissa didn't have an album is why she left and now she's actually releasing one in 3 hours, just not as Melissa

>> No.39775650

>>39775466
>graduated

>> No.39775671

>>39775636
Meanwhile Toko and Chima are sharing an album despite Toko already had her sololive.

>> No.39775712

>>39775632
But they don’t. CCV isn’t equally fucked with for every streamer and we don’t know how much it is for each person. See HoloEN having to wait 5+minutes to verify their waiting room while NijiEN gets nigh instant waiting room verification

>> No.39775757

>>39775671
Turns out you just need to leech holos to get those
Did this Melissa never interacted with holos?

>> No.39775761

>>39775632
Except they are not on an equal ruleset. HoloEN is giga culled meanwhile holoJP, holoID, nijiJP, nijiEN are not.

>> No.39775770

>>39775671
all the more reason that chima is a hack that's holding nornis back

>> No.39775783

>>39775712
>CCV isn’t equally fucked with for every streame
No proof has ever been put forward for this and can be written off as ENfag cope.

>> No.39775797

>>39775757
she was actually busy sucking ibrahim's cock instead of riku's so of course no album

>> No.39775814

>Ending the year the way it started with ENfags whining about "MUH CULL"
Time is a circle

>> No.39775829

>>39775783
>ENfag cope
How fucking new?

>> No.39775862

Reminder than Marine joked about rape and forced penetration in front of Lamy and Nene in that drunk among us stream. Such evil person doesn't deserve being in hololive.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=VVMXExWchqg&t=275

>> No.39775887

>>39775829
ENfags have been posting cullcope for a long, long time. None of it proven, all of it cope for the fact the EN whores have been in terminal recline all year long because they're not entertaining, they're lazy as fuck and don't work as a team to schedule out evenings like 3rd gen do.

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>>39775862

>> No.39775908

>>39774542
Seriously what did he mean by this

>> No.39775909

>>39775783
I will never understand the obsession with some people to gaslight the thread into thinking Susan ccv numbers are 100% accurate

>> No.39775926

>>39775829
Seethe, lurk more.

>> No.39775934

>>39775887
>None of it proven
Nigger we literally have a line on the fucking chart that says "youtube ccv adjustment", what the fuck are you on about

>> No.39775950

>>39775926
Gaslight harder

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Clutch 8k get still loses to Enna though

>> No.39775964

>>39775934
Your fake ""charts"" don't prove anything.

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39775969

I was looking at the archives
It's really a fucking timeloop
I wish the Chinkout didn't happen so the orange bitch could meme HoloES into existence.
Imagine a branch with some Latino Spic, Italian, Portuguese and Euro Spic girls.

>> No.39775972

>>39775632
It absolutely does because not only can you not say you are seeing the CCV, you cannot say how it's derived or if there's uniformity between individual streams on the same channel let alone between channels. You don't have any access to how any of the publicly are derived and anything you're using is totally worthless if you want to make hard claims. It's empty speculation the same way contract specifics, merch specifics and sponsorship specifics are. Just enjoy the horse racing and don't assign worth to legit looking spreadsheetposters dude.

>> No.39775975

HOLY SHIT
MARKIPLIER ON KRONII STREAM

>> No.39775979

>>39775909
Nobody claims they're 100% accurate. All they say is that every youtuber plays under the exact same rules. The ENfags contention is that Youtube somehow punishes HoloEN uniquely more than any other western streamer because...Reasons.
Those reasons being they get mogged by JP and need to cope about their recline so they make up conspiracy theories about the Youtube illuminati stealing their numbers but nobody elses

There is absolute no reason to think that any member of HoloEN is punished more by culling than Pekora, Koyori or Mio or any other youtuber. Period.

>> No.39775982

>>39775964
>la la la la I can't hear you

>> No.39775984 [DELETED] 

>>39775934
>>39775950
Stop lying, you were caught out for talking shit about this outside of the /#/ and you're not going to get away with doing it inside it.

>> No.39776003

>>39775862
Burger seething

>> No.39776009

>>39775934
kek show me this chart I need a laugh

>> No.39776022

>>39775979
Now explain it in English

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while were on the subject of culled audiences i recall pippa getting 100%+ poll participation in one of her streams a couple weeks ago in about 2 minutes. It stretches just beyond holoEN. Who knows how deep it is.

>> No.39776026

Wada mama...
>>39775253

>> No.39776027

>>39775979
>There is absolute no reason to think that any member of HoloEN is punished more by culling than Pekora, Koyori or Mio or any other youtuber. Period.
Indeed. If you're accepting that somehow EN and ID viewers engage with polls about 300% more than any JP viewers. Sometimes they engage in polls so much they outnumbers the CCV numbers in less than 2 minutes.

>> No.39776033

Okay so can someone actually explain why HoloEN takes 3 minutes to verify while everyone else takes only 1 or sometimes even less than that?

>> No.39776035

>>39775979
>There is absolute no reason to think that any member of HoloEN is punished more by culling than Pekora, Koyori or Mio or any other youtuber. Period.
You mean, apart from the fact that en routinely takes 5-15 minutes for their CCV to get back to waiting room numbers, whereas jps do it within 30 seconds?

>> No.39776042

Weirdly decent number for Kronii at this time

>> No.39776051

>>39776022
EN fucking sucks. Get low number. HoloJP good. Gets good number. ENfag angry, ENfag say Youtube rigged, JPchads laugh at ENfag and point out ENfag has small penis

>> No.39776054

>>39775979
Can you back your claim of there being a concrete ruleset that's always applied equally to all videos and streams on YouTube with any proof? Seems unlikely given how complex YouTube's backend is.

>> No.39776057

>>39776033
It is the cull

>> No.39776062

>>39775969
Why the fuck would you want more third worlders into the hobby, especially HUEHUEHUES? Just invest into HoloEN instead of adding meme branches.
Also
>Italian
might as well add French and Romanian in there.

>> No.39776069

>>39776057
But that is said to be cope.

>> No.39776076

>>39776025
It's because Pippas viewers are 99% HoloEN viewers only HoloEN viewers get culled so much

>> No.39776078

>>39775984
Stop gaslighting it's not going to work

>> No.39776085

>>39776051
As expected, it's nothing but cope

>> No.39776090

Wada and Mika need to become NijiEN mamas instead of being stuck ina 2nd rate group like HoloEN

>> No.39776093

>>39776078
Say that nonsense all you want, all that matters in this thread is what is true.

>> No.39776096

Sometimes I wish ccvid was still present so we don't have to go through this bullshit every day

>> No.39776097

>>39776042
SEA/JP audience.
Same reason why Fauna randomly got 10 fucking K on her last ASMR

>> No.39776100

>>39776054
It's the default assumption unless any actual data can be provided that shows different. And no saying Gura would get seventy gigazillion CCV per stream if she wasn't culled is not data, it's cope.

>> No.39776111

>>39776042
Probably two factors at play here
>incoming new outfit buff
>playing a game that she actually enjoys and is good at

>> No.39776118

>>39776100
Your default assumption is to believe unverified data from a system you have no understanding of? That's pretty dumb if you're not fucking around.

>> No.39776120

>>39776054
The burden of proof is on you, anon

>> No.39776126

>>39776042
outfit buff

>> No.39776129

>>39776093
Yes and it is true that en polls, and for that matter most western youtube streamers get participation rates far higher than ccv routinely, and the ccv count for en streams updates far ore slowly than jp streams, but please do continue trying to gaslight the thread into thinking theres no proof

>> No.39776137

>>39776062
>French and Romanian in there.
French doesn't sounds like Latin and Romanian is just fast Portuguese lemao
>Why the fuck would you want more third worlders into the hobby
For shits n' giggles. They would be just 2 views after a month, it would be fine.

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>>39776025
here we go i found it.

>> No.39776176

>>39776118
Historically we always have taken CCV at face value with the exception of the CCVID period and I don't see any reason not to. Even if there is a cull it will be applied evenly across the system. Your argument is that I shouldn't take it at face value because there MIGHT be something affecting HoloEN more than any other Youtube streamer in the world. To that I simply ask for proof.

You think you're being smart by trying to poison the CCV well by saying it might be wrong but it doesn't really help your case at all. EN are minnows and always will be.

>> No.39776178

>>39776129
I'm not trying to do anything, this has been discussed many times before and most people in the thread already have their answers for it.

>> No.39776202

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7HJh1EENAE
the reason now every one wanted to do a sololive

>> No.39776213

>>39776129
>and the ccv count for en streams updates far ore slowly than jp streams
Because they have less viewers. CCV updates proportionally to viewership. Why are you attempting to numberfag if you don't even know how youtube works, retard?

>> No.39776215

>>39776176
>Even if there is a cull it will be applied evenly across the system.
You can look at the polls and waiting room recovery rate for ENs and see that's no true

>> No.39776225

>>39776176
No I know that historically people here have raced CCV, you seem to have confused that with self-important spreadsheet keepers playing tea-leaf reader with youtube numbers. You're very dumb if you took any of this remotely seriously.

>> No.39776226

>>39776213
Oh look another gaslight attempt, how droll

>> No.39776228

>>39776202
Kek, Cover is actively losing money by letting the girls have Sololives. I wonder how they aren't bankrupt yet

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Reminder that there is no cull on JP side

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FauFau tomorrow!

>> No.39776245
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39776245

ENfags sure seem angry about their objectively reclining branch tonight, Maybe if they weren't lazy whores they wouldn't get shit numbers

>> No.39776252

>>39776213
>gaslighting newfags
i'm almost positive jp still gets far better numbers than en even with en cull but this is just pathetic

>> No.39776269

>>39776166
GOLEM GET YE GONE

>> No.39776280

>>39776252
You haven't used the term gaslighting correctly a single time.

>> No.39776284

>>39773948
where's the other one?

>> No.39776301

>>39776178
Yeah no shit anon, the only reason we are even discussing this is because we have this asswipe here >>39776213 trying to lie about it

>> No.39776310

>>39776042
It's like 9 AM here in Europe during the holidays. I'm eating breakfast whilst watching this.

>> No.39776313

>>39776280
No he's used it completely perfectly

>> No.39776316

>>39776284
Who cares about irys?

>> No.39776322

>>39776313
Nope

>> No.39776327

>>39776322
Yes

>> No.39776330
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>1 year later spic schizo is still trying to make up rrats about EN being culled to cope with their recline

>> No.39776336

weird thread

>> No.39776341

>>39776096
We can will it into existence.

>> No.39776343

>>39776202
That Gura reply kek

>> No.39776354

>>39776327
Nope

>> No.39776361

>>39776336
Hey at least the topic being timelooped is actually relevant to numbers this time

>> No.39776362

>get btfo
>seethe and post lumi
kek
KEK

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its that time of the night for me where the thread is full of SEA and its people trying to argue with literal walls that dont speak proper english. everyone knows theres something that affects shown viewership in effect nobody knows the extent of it and how it affects different regions we just know ID did get raped the hardest if ID was anything to go by. The alternative is youtube polls are bugged however.

>> No.39776371

>>39776354
Yes

>> No.39776379

>>39776166
GOLEM GET YE GONE

>> No.39776385

>>39776137
Both French and Romanian are neo latin and so is Italian. Still while they have a lot in common they are different languages and in a normal conversation they won't understand each other. Which kinda defeats the purpose.
>For shits n' giggles
do we want more SEA tier shitpost on this board?

>> No.39776389

>>39776371
Nope

>> No.39776400

>>39776284
IRyS is at 657k, so lower than bae, higher than fauna and way way lower than kronii/mumei.

>> No.39776401

>>39776361
Not really, it's just the shitposter going culls down exist, and then of course the nijinigger jumps on it and starts gaslighting because shitting up the thread is what he lives for

>> No.39776403

>>39776330
is this veibae?

>> No.39776410

>>39775887
we have newfaggot nijiniger holoantis in this thread that either dont know about the cull and dont want to hear about it because it causes them cognitive dissonance or are bad actors trying to rewrite history like stalin.

>> No.39776413

>>39776389
Yes

>> No.39776415

>>39773948
Fauna doesn't fucking tweet so this doesn't surprise me at all.

>> No.39776425

>>39776413
Nope

>> No.39776426

>>39776413
Nope

>> No.39776432

>>39776410
It's not that they don't know about the cull, they know exactly what the cull is and are lying about it in order to shit up the thread

>> No.39776437

>>39776415
Fauna also doesnt appeal to the kind of people that infest twitter, ties into her lack of clip views

>> No.39776446

>>39776425
Yes

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>>39776410
There is a cull but it's even and if EN loses 20% of their CCV then they'd still be 20% behind JP either way which means cull or no cull EN is less than dogshit on HoloJPs boot and that's the fact that makes ENfags seethe the most. How many streams did the lazy whores do today by the way?

>> No.39776463

>>39776415
That plays a part but she's also just really not that popular with the mainstream audience that still massively prefers myth and kronii/mumei

>> No.39776473

>>39776228
How did you come to that conclusion from that?

>> No.39776477

>>39776446
Nope

>> No.39776485

>>39776362
People blame Nijifags for a lot of the shitpost (rightfully) but they forget that Pippa and Lumi have a lot of underaged faggots in their fanbase who think that 4channel is all about posting ebin baits and trolling. Who do you think follows shit like bannedvtmemes?

>> No.39776487

>>39776454
>falseflagging this hard

>> No.39776493

>>39776432
There is a cull. True.

The cull disproportionately affects HoloEN. False.

The first is verifiable fact while the second is simply cope by a fanbase who are salty they get shitstomped by a better branch every single day. Know the difference.

>> No.39776506 [DELETED] 

>>39776493
>The cull disproportionately affects HoloEN. False.
Oh

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>>39776487
Not that nousagi but he's not entirely wrong. I still love NORyS though

>> No.39776512

>>39776473
Single digit IQ work in mysterious way

>> No.39776513

>>39776228
anon
the holo needs the 1m subs or kill herself organizing a sololive (the holo pays for the sololive and do all the organizations besides some compliance about the holo brand)

>> No.39776517

>>39776477
Yes

>> No.39776525

>>39776463
The fuck does main stream even mean when she is the top dog of council in terms of CCV?

>> No.39776535

>>39776493
holoEN has been culled harder than JP im pretty sure

>> No.39776536

>>39776493
>cull disproportionately affects HoloEN. False.
Oh look another gaslight attempt
Show me a poll from the JPs where they get more voters than they have ccv within fifteen minutes

>> No.39776537

>>39776517
Nope

>> No.39776542

I HATE ENFAGGOTS

>> No.39776547

>>39776493
How do you know that? Any proof?

>> No.39776550

>>39776513
That's why I said holding Sololives meant losing money for the company, and yet the faggots in here keep denyingthe truth

>> No.39776556

>>39776525
She has people who knows she exists, a solid base, but she literally can't bring in tourists because she filters people. She's not mainstream because when people say Council they instantly see Kronii and Mumei even if they don't watch them actively

>> No.39776559

>>39776245
CHLOE IT’S ME THE GHOST OF YOUR GRANDMA
BOOOOOOOOOO

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>>39776536
>Muh poll
Holy fucking shit. This was used to track CCVID in January and you faggots haven't let go of it since despite the fact that it's been ALMOST AN ENTIRE FUCKING YEAR. Is your plan to make me despite you disgusting ENiggers? Because it's working

>> No.39776563

>>39776537
Yes

>> No.39776574

>>39776559
Can i simp you?

>> No.39776576

>>39776563
Nope

>> No.39776586

>>39776454
Please save new images i’m begging you.

>> No.39776584

>>39776042
It's pretty much just neutral Kronii numbers before the homo collab arc, maybe people have started to forgive her.
Also it's a pretty surprising slot, considering that Kiara got 7k with a sponsored stream in it and Ame 5k with a shitty OW2 guerrilla.

>> No.39776587

>>39776493
EN streams definitely have a greater form of cull than jp streams, you can see it fro the difference in waiting room recovery speed, the poll engagement rate, and the view count. Claiming otherwise is just being disingenuous and you know it

>> No.39776596

>>39776202
meanwhile migo getting another new costume a day after new years...

>> No.39776604

I just listened to all of the recent HoloEN songs

>Snow Halation
Sounds really good and this is the best that Amelia and Kiara have ever sounded in one of these group songs. Gura sounds great as usual and IRyS sounds absolutely divine. Only complaint is that IRyS didn't really get an entire solo segment but great song overall

>Suki! Yuki! Maji Magic
Probably my favorite of the three Christmas songs which is weird since it seems to be the least popular. A really fun song and Fauna actually doesn't sound half bad during her segments. Mori also sounds fine which makes sense since she does seem to be gravitating away from rap. Then there is Mumei....this is probably the closest we have gotten to "karaoke Mumei" in a recorded song. My god she sounds fantastic here. Just great song overall.

>Holy Night
My least favorite of the three. Certainly not a bad song but I had no desire to loop it again like I did with the other two. The music video is really nice and heart warming but Kronii doesn't really stand out and Bae has sounded a lot better

Speaking of Bae sounding a lot better...

>Blooming in the Mud
My god this was so amazing on so many levels and I continue to be blown away by Bae's music projects. From her cover songs to her original she always goes super try hard and the effort certainly pays off when she keeps putting out absolute bangers. Towa is Towa and she does not disappoint here but Bae matches her note for note. Just an amazing performance from both of them and a very late entry on the list of best Hololive cover songs of the entire year.

>> No.39776610

>>39776564
Oh look another gaslight attempt, how droll

>> No.39776613

>>39776564
>despite
Nice English

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>Scream that they hate ENfag
>Stay in this hours, where NO ONE in JP is streaming
I wonder why ...

>> No.39776617

>>39776587
Hell yeah sister gura would have 100k every single stream if it wasn't for da cull!

>> No.39776619

>>39776587
Not the case with NijiEN

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>>39776536

>> No.39776633

>>39776617
Fuck you

>> No.39776636

>Look at thread
Maybe Salome or Kobo got culled too...
Just accept that their number is reclining to normal form just like Salome or Kobo

>> No.39776645

Unironically you all are melting down over nothing. If a chuuba is satisfied with their number then we have no reason to complain

>> No.39776667

>>39776617
God I hate you the most because you are the reason why people still discuss the poll like its a matte rof debate

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Oh, she's about to hit 300k

>> No.39776678

>>39776617
Stop being disingenuous

>> No.39776686

>>39776636
Fuck off, Salome is a 100k streamer a few months ago. Do you really believe she reclined 90% in 4 months?

>> No.39776685

>>39776576
Yes

>> No.39776687

>>39776556
>Cant bring in tourist
Lets see the outfit reveal numbers I guess, sucks that they are so spread out that we cant accurately gauge their power levels.

>> No.39776689

>>39776550
its not like the sololive per se would bring any money
the girl would pay for everything and the stream and merch would be sold by cover corp
I don't see this as a big loss
but I got it

>> No.39776691

>>39776485
Pippa and Lumi fans might be annoying but they're focused on shilling their favorites and fighting whatever midget town battles are important to them. They don't have any need or interest to come to the numbers thread and make "holo vs holo" or "holo vs niji" timeloops. We all know what sort of people do that.

>> No.39776694

>>39776604
She might not get numbers but i really appreciate bae putting in the effort for her projects. She's the only council (not counting irys) that actually goes to a studio to record, is consistently reaching out to JPs for collabs and streams frequently. She also does all this while going to school. Its honestly pretty admirable.

>> No.39776696

So easy miko gold today .

>> No.39776703

>kronii goes to superchats without even trying to shill her outfit

!?!?!

>> No.39776717

>>39776667
Poll numbers were used to track CCVID progress for 3 weeks in January. They have been utterly irrelevant for 11 months now and are only brought up as an ENfag coping mechanism.

>> No.39776723

>>39776691
Why is it always nijiniggers?

>> No.39776748

>>39776645
Fans care about how big their oshi's numbers are weird
It's almost like they have their existence being connected to win or lose

>> No.39776749

>>39776686
I mean, she literally did.

>> No.39776754

>>39776689
That's why shit like HoloFes is pretty stupid since holding live concerts for a live streaming company is detrimental for one's growth. Hololive set a very harmful precedent where vtubers have to do sololives to be seen as "successful"

>> No.39776767

>>39776717
Nigger poll numbers have been a thing since the end of 2020 when we started regularly seeing poll participation that outstrips ccv, 2021 us just when it started happening to your precious jps. You're either gaslighting or a genuine newfag, now fuck off

>> No.39776775

Miko dominates gold race this month right?

>> No.39776783

>>39776696
Miko is cursed when it comes to gold. For the last 2 months she has been the strongest vtuber on the planet but she only has like 2 golds since there is always some shitty random event stream going on, lol.

>> No.39776787

>>39776703
She talked a bit about it at the start.

>> No.39776788

>>39776754
And of course we have this retard

>> No.39776820

>>39776754
>live streaming company

>> No.39776825

>>39776754
You are fucking retarded

>> No.39776843

>>39776788
Will we see another "selling more ticket means negative for finance"?

>> No.39776844

>>39776767
ENs numbers are not because of Youtube targeting them. Yes there is a cull but it doesn't affect any group more than any other, meaning that proportionally they can still be compared validly. Make it your new years resolution to stop this cope and just move on to dealing with the fact EN is reclining because they're lazy and not fun to watch and spam homoshit.

>> No.39776854

>>39776783
So who dominates gold race this month?

>> No.39776857
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39776857

you guys are being retard on purpose to fill this dead hours, right? I refuse to believe that some of you are actually legit retarded

>> No.39776876

>>39776550
is this the same retard from other days?

>> No.39776903

>>39776854
>>PER STREAMER
>6x: Pekora
>3x: Miko, Toya
>2x: Mio, Nijisanji
>1x: Aqua, Fubuki, Fulgur, Hex, Hisui, Kanata, Lilpa, Marine, Towa, Watame

>> No.39776915

>>39776857
Acting like a retard is fun for some people
Maybe they are retarded for real

>> No.39776930

>>39776783
The gold race is a bit biased that way since it depend a lot of stream placement and how the chuuba choose their opponent

>> No.39776932

>>39776844
???? We have proof that EN is being culled harder than JP from waiting room recovery, polls, engagement, etc.

>> No.39776936
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39776936

>>39776754
>where vtubers have to do sololives to be seen as "successful"
the holo only does sololive if she wants it, regardless of her fame
Okayu like music and wanted to make an album
and then she decided to do a sololive for her fans and not just to bring tourists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9laP3fe4E0
why yes i'm using your low quality posting to shill the cat

>> No.39776935

>>39776604
>>39776694
I get excited whenever Bae announced a music project since I know it's going to be great since Bae's standards are super high. She is as try hard as Kiara is when it comes to music without the shitty chicken voice ruining the song. I'm so thankful she exists.

>> No.39776954

>>39776857
y-yes

>> No.39776957

>>39776932
Post it with comparisons to JP and prove it then

>> No.39776958

Wait Kanata actually just asked Reddit if they like her performance yesterday
Gen 4 is quite active on Reddit huh

>> No.39776972

>>39776857
It's a fantastic mix of cull timeloops, someone thinking sold out venues, with streaming tickets as well, and with custom merch still is a net negative, and the classic Bae/Fauna posting going on.
I only stick aroukd to get closer to Aqua, by killing my braincells one by one.

>> No.39776981

>>39776935
Maybe she should stop doing low standard streams then.

>> No.39776988

>>39776903
This is fake right? There is no way pekora is winning gold race this month

>> No.39776991

>>39776844
Yeah it's not be sue of youtube targeting them, it's because of some process that makes en streams less responsive than jp streams. It literally happen to everyone from Ludwig to pippa, or do you really think 90% or above poll engagement is a normal occurance?

>> No.39776992

>>39776930
No shit, IRyS lost with a 90k stream and Fungus managed to take gold with a 30k one in the absolute slowest HoloJP day in recent memory.

>> No.39776999

>>39776932
I always thought poll engagement was an iffy metric at best. The waiting room recovery is total bullshit though. We frequently see JP and even NijiEN recover a waiting room of thousands in seconds while it takes HoloEN like 5 minutes to recover an 8k waiting room for example. It's fucking weird and I'll never understand why it happens.

>> No.39777013

>>39776958
Kanataso... The kaigai nikki stopped giving a fuck about JP during 2021...

>> No.39777017
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39777017

So I just realized nobody talks about salome anymore. What gives?

>> No.39777022

>>39776972
Everyone need to do something else outside /vt/ maybe watch a stream or even touch the grass

>> No.39777039

>>39776988
Honey I know you are desperate for a PekoMiko timeloop but this is not the time

>> No.39777050

>>39777017
lmao i remember these
where are they NOW?

>> No.39777054

>>39776999
My working theory is that the ccv verification thing was specifically put in place to counter Kpop fags, so they have more servers in East Asia to handle that. There's less demand for that sort of accuracy in the west so youtube assigns less servers for them and that's why its so sluggish for en streams

>> No.39777069

GOLD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9kDf9RsAqo

>> No.39777071

>>39777017
Because my original prediction on Salome came true. People were only there for the meme name and to see if anything was going to happen when she hit one million. Her viewership was huge because people thought it was some elaborate Nijisanji marketing stunt and they wanted to be there for the ride. When she hit 1 million and nothing happened and it turned out she was just another bog standard vtuber with a shitty name they all left super quick.

>> No.39777072

>>39777017
>Kobo passed Salome

>> No.39777074

Kronii called us "Yu B. Rony"...

>> No.39777098

>>39777017
Irrelevancy, she doesnt even win occasional gold these days, but at the same time she’s not offensive enough to warrant bait and shit posts.

>> No.39777102

>>39777069
GLORIOUS

>> No.39777105

>>39777069
Is this the preparation for the tournament? Qualifier?

>> No.39777110

>>39777069
wtf, she really aims for the neck this time

>> No.39777112

>>39776972
>someone thinking sold out venues, with streaming tickets as well, and with custom merch still is a net negative
how

>> No.39777117

>>39776988
Pretty sure Pekora has won every month except the month she didn't stream and the other two when Salome was blowing up. On any given day where there isn't any special stream she's the most likely to get the biggest number out of all vtubers.

>> No.39777125

>>39775757
Meli is Roboco's friend afaik

>> No.39777140

>>39777112
Nijiniggers brains work in strange ways

>> No.39777148

>>39777017
I smell catalogue bait

>> No.39777150

>>39777117
>On any given day where there isn't any special stream she's the most likely to get the biggest number out of all vtubers.
That is not true though, she has been event spamming hard this month.

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>>39777069
How can PekwhoooOOOOoora even compete, 35Chads?

>> No.39777164

>>39777098
She never was, herself. It was what her company was doing with her that was offensive. Now that they stopped no ones cares anymore.

>> No.39777188

>>39777071
>muh original prediction
Just say it was an IPO scam to attract investors instead of this faggot excuse.

>> No.39777197

>>39776783
Well yeah, but technically no one outside of this thread cares about the meme medals. But like you said, Miko has been really strong and been getting big numbers these past 2 months, she even has like 40k average CCV this month. Still proud of her.

>> No.39777203

>>39777150
She is getting more sponsorship and projects than ever as her number decline

>> No.39777207

>>39777054
Theres a regional difference for sure, and I think Australia gets culled the hardest.
>proof?
See Axel, and Bae.

>> No.39777212

Okay hear me out
What if polls are reverse culled? Maybe YT automatically adds a bunch of fake votes to balance polls when they detect a ton of votes at once
Reddit already does something like this with upvotes

>> No.39777223

>>39777188
Nijiseethe

>> No.39777227

>>39777098
>but at the same time she’s not offensive enough to warrant bait and shit posts.
I mean, we still get the occasional shitpost about her but yeah, nobody other than hardcore Riku fellating nijifags respond in those threads

>> No.39777230

>>39776936
>2 FAKE TYPE songs
And they’re both the exact same as DGS, Nezumi Scheme, Alche miss Katrina, Utakata no Lullaby and all FAKE TYPES other songs.

>> No.39777240

>>39777152
She can't
She is irrelevant without Minecraft and Rust

>> No.39777255

>>39777150
It doesn't matter, if there was a day where no one in vtubing did anything special she would win by default. If she does buff streams that just makes it more likely she'll be able to overcome minor event streams from Niji or Holo (low to mid-tier 3D lives from Niji, group collabs in Holo). At one point Kuzuha could challenge her with random Apex streams but that time is long gone.

>> No.39777284

>>39777212
NIce projection

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>>39777069
BROS?

>> No.39777288

>>39777255
She doesn't even have highest average CCV this month nigga, what are you smoking? She gets sub 20k every other day with FGO garbage.

>> No.39777291

>>39777164
T…thanks for your elaboration ESL anon

>> No.39777317

>>39777255
We haven't talked enough about Kuzukek's recline in this thread. He has fallen off hard.

>> No.39777318

>>39776051
Kek ty for the laugh anon

>> No.39777326

>>39777288
>>39777291

>> No.39777329

https://twitter.com/tsunomakiwatame/status/1608017407808884737
collab

>> No.39777333

>>39777112
Really old timeloop
>>28891055
>When booking a venue you literally have to pay them back the rental fee. If it sells for more than expected, there's a surcharge. They're gonna want millions. Basic protocol for setting up concert venues dumbass.

>> No.39777345

>>39777212
No it's clear what they did with polls because it happened overnight. They made it so all the people that are flagged as "hidden" in a stream's ccv don't show up on the poll, so the numbers aren't wildly misaligned. This is ostensibly an anti-botting measure but in reality in was enacted when they were getting called out over polls hitting 100% or more engagement in 5 minutes. It's just a CYA measure.

>> No.39777384

>>39777288
Anon FGO playthough get better number than DQ. It's the watchalong that get sub 20k
You are letting your hatred for Pekora cloud your judgement

>> No.39777412

>>39776493
BASED

>> No.39777437

>>39777384
What does her FGO getting higher numbers than DQ have to do with her not being highest avg CCV this month? I swear these SEA monkeys have no brains

>> No.39777462

>>39777112
Someone not understanding ticket quotas and venue booking.

>> No.39777472

>>39777437
NTA but your reading comprehension reps nigger

>> No.39777479

>>39777384
Doesn't matter miko have variety in her stream she don't stream just one type of stream meanwhile pekora is just spamming buff shit left and right.

>> No.39777491

>>39777437
>Doesn’t even know what he is saying

>> No.39777497

>>39777462
More like nijiniggers being delusional again

>> No.39777525

>>39777479
Such as watchalong?

>> No.39777526

>>39777288
Who does, Miko? Pekora is good about picking which days she'll do her good content on. Miko doesn't really seem to be strategic about her streaming schedule, which is why she ends up as silver queen as often as not. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter for either one but Pekora just has more of an ego thing about being the best.

>> No.39777542

>nijisister starting PekoMiko timeloop
boooo booooring, get some new materials

>> No.39777546

>>39777207
I don't think two out of 26 million is enough to draw a conclusion there, mate

>> No.39777549

>>39773442
Who is Vtuber's Bocchi?

>> No.39777552

>>39777105
create more characters for the tournament
also remake some of the older ones

>> No.39777557

>>39777472
>>39777491
>Pekora is the most likely to have Gold on a non event day
>?? But she doesn't even have the highest avg CCV this month, how does that make sense?
>Well you see anon, her FGO streams have higher avg numbers than her DQ streams
Please SEA monkeys, save up some money and attend some kind of formal education before you mass post in these threads.

>> No.39777560

Venue host insider here, our contract with Cover says that if they sold more than x amount of tickets they need to reimburse us with the price of x tickets plus a percentage of convenience fee.

>> No.39777568
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39777568

Why are you guys timelooping again like retards

>> No.39777570

>>39777526
Tbh she did have that clip where she said she joined Hololive to be the biggest streamer

>> No.39777584

>>39777549
Link their channel

>> No.39777593

>>39777557
>He still doesn’t know what he was saying

>> No.39777595
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>>39776991
Maybe something like what happened with DOTA streams on twitch where 100K viewer tournaments didn't even show up on the front page - algorithm calculates that DOTA viewers barely watch anyone else, which conversely means that it's not valuable to push DOTA since they're not a diverse audience to advertise to.

>> No.39777627

>>39777557
ctrl f watchalong

>> No.39777639

>>39777526
Miko literally change her sportsfes format to get better numbers.

>> No.39777661

>>39777560
kek, yeah selling tickets is like pissing, you can't actually put 'sold out' until you're really sold out

>> No.39777662

>pekora is doing another gambling/gacha, again
Lmao she really doesn't want Miko to beat her this month. I can feel her desperation https://youtu.be/mLjwVT2hIyw

>> No.39777680

>>39777568
How early in the stream was this? If you do a poll right at the start you'll always get higher poll engagement than CCV because it's verifying. I've seen people post polls 5 minutes into a stream like it's some kind of amazing "gotcha" before, so I'm always skeptical.

>> No.39777698

>>39777662
her frame was up first anonchama

>> No.39777712

https://twitter.com/hashtag/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%AD%E3%83%84%E3%83%AA2022?src=hashtag_click
This is Holo's tokyo skytree collab like last year right?

>> No.39777721

Holy shit sololive/concert timeloop again
>>39776513
>>39776689
But this is new retarded takes

>> No.39777723

>>39777639
Miko actually fucked everything by restricting EN participation.

>> No.39777732

>>39777698
And Miko already said yesterday, she will play WWE today. Your point being?

>> No.39777759

>>39777662
Miko can't beat her this month, barring some amazing run that lets her win 4 days in a row.

>> No.39777778

Your archive reps, newfags. Cull and it's severity between branches is very well documented.

>> No.39777786

>>39777662
Miko already won the month
better median, better average, better watch time
10k more ccv in the same collab

>> No.39777791

>>39777723
what the fuck were the ENs going to do anyways
fauna? she would be quiet and offer nothing
same with mumei.
the only one that would maybe offer anything is gura but thats a huge maybe

>> No.39777795

>>39777759
Miko already has more average CCV and hours watched than Pekora currently

>> No.39777816

>all this argument about culling when the only thing to know is that Susan culls anything she deems to be from a worthless account, be it views, live views or subs
You can jerk off over being 50% culled and akshually the numbers are much higher all you want, all this proves is that 50% of your audience is trash

>> No.39777817

>>39777568
https://youtu.be/iutzmuvPjYY?t=36246
>We're at 65 000 total votes.
>Wait there's 53 000 people watching, let me do a little bit of math :
>There are 15 000 people watching (Valky)Rae that's 68 000
>and twitch.tv (Hasan) there are 40 000 people watching, that means there's 100 000+ people who are watching and only 2/3 voted

xqc also joined, here's a clip : https://clips.twitch.tv/LivelySneakyMoonKAPOW-2xX7Wka29mK0wPqR

>> No.39777828

>Peko gamba
>Miko WWE
>Subaru nikisei collab
Today is really packed yo

>> No.39777845

>>39777546
Ok fine, add Sana to the mix then mate. Literally all Aussie holomems are more entertaining than their non-Aussie branch mates, why in the heavens would they have less CCV then huh?

>> No.39777861

>>39777712
Yeah similar to last year's.

>> No.39777866

>>39777845
lol

>> No.39777871

>>39777845
>Literally all Aussie holomems are more entertaining than their non-Aussie branch mates
Thanks for the laugh

>> No.39777896

>>39777721
I believe that anon >>>28891055
was very dumb and full of shit
you also need to consider that you can make live shows where you profit from the ticket or not though
in the case of holos their can cover the costs with the adjacent sales like live stream tickets and merch
for real live concerts the ticket price is an absurd because it will cover big part of the costs, the rest is paid by the government and sponsors

>> No.39777897

>>39777795
Hours watched for youtube isn't a real metric (at least not the one calculated by public data we have access to) and I don't think Pekora can do anything in the final 4 days to change her CCV enough to overtake Miko regardless.

>> No.39777898

>>39777828
Nikisei collab is today? I thought it's on 29th as in tomorrow?

>> No.39777905

>>39777845
good one anon, made me chuckle

>> No.39777929

>>39777898
Probably just a mistake. But who knows https://youtu.be/IEzLd0w55_8

>> No.39777938

clockwoman still at 5k for a supachat reading

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>>39777938

>> No.39777960

>>39777896
Bushiroad paid the expense

>> No.39777963

>>39777845
I would rather get the rope than watch bae over fauna who's actually entertaining or mumei who's just the cutest little thing.

>> No.39777980

>>39777845
Aussie are blight to hololive, its full of chinks

>> No.39778012

>>39777980
>full of chinks
Name one then retard

>> No.39778051

>>39777963
Fauna is a boring whore who pretends she's smarter than she is while also not giving a single shit about her fans

>> No.39778054

>>39777980
You wish Zhang

>> No.39778055

>>39778012
Bae the homolover

>> No.39778059

>>39777662
Miko will win this one though.

>> No.39778071

Ok, notwithstanding the fact that people cycle in and out of a stream all the time that explains poll numbers>ccv, let's take all these assumptions to be true
1. There is a cull of viewer in terms of ccv
2. The percentage cull for each streamer is different

What I gathered from reading this thread is that
1. Waiting room recovery doesn't mean shit
During CCVID there are times that ccv never recovered above the waiting room number, but there is never a saying going around that waiting room recovery becomes slower. The idea is that some viewers are never calculated from the waiting room, not that it recovers slowly.
2. Verification
It ties together with waiting room recovery, as each viewer is verified again using black magic by Youtube's Algo. There is no evidence that link rate, or speed of verification process with the percentage of cull that is happening in a stream, which put the final nail in the coffin of "waiting room recovery" as an indication of how much a stream is cull.

Now we can go to the potential reason why EN "seems to be" having higher percentage of cull than JP.
1. The reason for cull
There is a general assumption that culls are Youtube's method to prevent botting of a stream, which is dubious as people can still bot the stream. Another theory is that cull happen as Youtube wants to get an accurate numbers of viewers that are relevant to their ad revenue - the number of people that can watch ads.
2. Culled viewers = viewers that can't watch ads
This is dubious at best too as there is no conclusive answer from anon experimenting with ad blocks and whether login/logout affects viewership, at least not something that is posted here. But let's assume that people who can't see ads are culled, we can make a few more assumptions to conclude that EN is culled more than JP:

A). More EN viewers use adblocks than JP
B). More EN viewers watched tab-out or embeded in other platforms (hence cannot receive ads)
C). EN has more viewers outside of places that Youtube can put ads on (e.g. Africa, Russia etc)

Noticed that there are a lot of assumptions needed to make "EN is more culled than JP" true because we don't have any idea how YT algo works.

>> No.39778089

So today we have mikogold and pekosilver?

>> No.39778107

>>39778071
WORDSWORDSWORDS

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>>39778089
Yes

>> No.39778120

>>39778071
Lotta words to say absolutely fuck all there mate.

>> No.39778144

Koyori 2nd stream today btw

>> No.39778154

>>39778144
TRIPLE TALLY KOYOTE

>> No.39778164

>>39778059
>>39778089
I'm a 35P and I don't think Miko will win the gold. I said it before and I'll say it again. Gambling buff is just too strong. I'm still happy with Miko getting big numbers though.

>> No.39778169

>>39777960
true
the point is, cover corp is not losing money as that anon pointed out
they are just not profiting from the base tickets which is literally nothing, a single holo can make that money in one random 3d stream if they wanted it

>> No.39778174

35P are the new nijiniggers attacking Pekora non stop

>> No.39778183

>>39778071
You forgot
>Susan hates holoEN and holoID and personally slashes off their CCVs every time they stream

>> No.39778195

>>39777732
And Pekora already said she's gonna do GOD on Pokemon announcement stream. I like them both, I have no horse to bet on. But if you wanna be a tribalfag at least get it right, SEAturd

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>>39778174
35p and Nousagi rivalry is normal, newfags like you need to go back

>> No.39778196

>>39778164
Anon please. Miko have WWE tournament hype she will easily win this one also pekora will have subaru on the same slot no? I expect 70k+ on miko strea and 35k+ on peko.

>> No.39778204

>>39778144
Wow didnt know theres official ranked mode for Pokemon, did any other holomems play the mode?

>> No.39778237

One more addendum to the explanation of other number discrepancies between EN and JP
1. Likes
JP are more passive compared to NA/SEA. They won't automatically "いいね" a stream just like EN.
2. Polls
Same as above. Japanese are more passive in turn of participation. I noticed that they view the stream as another entertainment that is akin to TV than NA/SEA and won't vote on a poll unless it is mandatory. At most they will just type in chat. This is probably because YT streaming culture was brought from NND for JP and Twitch for others respectively
3. VOD views
Sorry to say but JP audiences simply have too many livestream to enjoy that they don't need to watch VODs to cope. Koyori for example streamed shit tons hence her VOD views are affected. If someone missed a JP stream they will probably not gonna go back to watch unless it is something important.

>> No.39778238

>>39778196
Nah, Miko will also have Korone's comeback stream on the same slot. Miko 60k+ Pekora 70k+

>> No.39778243

>>39778204
Pekora only played casual if im not mistaken

>> No.39778252

>>39777817
Anon ludwig’s ccv went up by 2k for a grand total of 55k while the poll ended with almost 90k from memory. No matter what way people want to spin it, the reality is that youtube is not counting the viewers pooling into the stream. It’d also require twitchfags to go search out the ludwig stream and participate in the poll when they don’t even participate in the polls natively already.

But again, even regardless of “reasons” it’s pretty evident that youtube has no solid means of tracking. And when NotRushia (indie), Vox (NijiEN), Mori/others (HoloEN), Pippa (Phase Connect) and others have ALL either acknowledged and/or confirmed to us that there are inaccuraries in CCV while being completely separate from eachother and all have EN/SEA fanbases, there’s no denying that culls do exist.

Actually, why the fuck are we even timelooping after you saw Mikoneko show it’s bullshit already? Her debut stream peaked at 60k and then she linked a picture of her analytics a day later showing 70+ as the peak, which it never hit to begin with

>> No.39778254

>>39778194
Stop falseflagging greenturd, I know it's you, you do the same thing in /hlg/.

>> No.39778259

>>39778107
>>39778120
Just read the last sentence.

>> No.39778261
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Is this the lowest Guras monthly VoD views have ever been?

>> No.39778273

>>39778196
>WWE tournament
There won't be any WWE tournament though

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