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June
>1M VOD 80K CCV average
December
>150K VOD 10K CCV average
What happened to her viewers?

>> No.39738078

>>39738018
Anyccolor viewbot budget exceeded, pureez andastado

>> No.39738087

novelty and virality buff wore off.

>> No.39738286

>>39738018
You fags act like debut buffs aren't a thing.
Like Chloe's debut from 180k to current 7k-12k ccv

>> No.39738442

>>39738286
dig through the archives and you'll notice a pattern of such threads popping up overwhelmingly more often regarding nijisanji than hololive.

>> No.39738455

>>39738018
the IPO scam worked

>> No.39738688

>>39738286
but salome's debut buff was too crazy
she was getting 120K for part 7 of biohazard
and got 1M subs in like 10 days
where are they now?

>> No.39739690

>>39738688
How many people of the 4m subs watch/watched Gura? Fads burn quickly in this shit.

>> No.39739813

>>39738018
I enjoyed her re6 streams but she got too samey and also Mito came back so I lost interest in her completely.

>> No.39739922

>>39739813
Why did Vox's cocksleeve leave in the first place?

>> No.39740241

>>39738018
she deliberately debuffed herself with shitty games because of the pressure. A lot of her senpais were literally publicly seething about her success

>> No.39740334

>>39738018
Nijizhangji ran out of money for Chinese bots please understand

>> No.39740395

>>39738286
lol any real big debut has their numbers immediatelly fall down after the debut, only salome grew her numbers from debut and kept it high over 100k ccv over 2 weeks, and then crashed it incredibly hard and suddenly, right after the IPOscam

>> No.39740675

>>39740241
Really nothing else you can do when your own company is at a loss/upset with your debut being meant for a joke and the fucking stars align for those sorts of numbers. But the assine thing was them just not understand it wasn't going to last, but it didn't stop several of the members being absolute shitters about it. There was enough passive aggression over the summer to last a lifetime. And this is all not even going into vtubers outside Niji

>> No.39741200

>>39738018
Pretty sure bots were involved in her growth, shame because for a minute I thought she'd be the shork killer.

>> No.39741373

>>39740241
Incredibly sad if true niji had a really hard hitter i am a hardcore holofag but solome is someone who could have rivled the almighty pekora herself very stupid that they would debuff some of the only top heavy stremes they have

>> No.39741534

>>39738688
I was there watching that stream, but dropped her because frankly she was too difficult for me to understand. Her technical and formal Japanese was too hard for my pea-sized gaijin brain. But for that time, she was one of the very few vtubers I'd actually watched live consistently, due to her perfected ability to make a consistent schedule and stick to it.

>> No.39741619

>>39741373
well it's not true, they have put her in soooooo many promotions and events

>> No.39741667

>NUMBERS NUMBERS NUMBERS NUMBERS NUMBERS NUMBERS
holoniggers are scum

>> No.39741691

>>39740241
>A lot of her senpais were literally publicly seething about her success
Sauce?

>> No.39741799

>>39741619
it‘d be more embarrassing if their highest subbed JP didn‘t get any merch. Niji management should‘ve tried to tardwrangle the shitters that threw tantrums because Salome mogged them within a week of debuting

>> No.39742093

>>39741691
>Mito mysteriously going on hiatus right after Salome surpassed her as the highest subbed Niji female
>Ibrahim downright shittalking her on stream
>Kanae being shifty when people asked him about her
>the collective silence after Leos chose her for the Baseball event while everyone else got cheers and comments
the only person who acted decent about Salome was Kuzuha, who said that her popularity is good for the collective of Nijisanji.

>> No.39743021

>>39742093
It's only good for the rest of them if they decide to include and integrate her instead of being prissy bitches about it and isolating her.

>> No.39743356

>>39742093
So that's why Salome doesn't collab with the rest of Nijisanji?
I think she collabed once with Kaede and that guy that had a huge graduation in like half a year.

>> No.39743885

Biggest wasted opportunity in Vtubing history. I'd say even bigger than Gura (despite being the biggest EN vtuber, the Shark could have honestly been an actual staple instead of a novelty). As a numberfag, the most annoying part is that the fault lies with everyone in niji, including Salome herself
>Salome should have taken some initiative and not allowed herself to be turned into a walking advert for sponsors
>Mito and the rest of the Niji old guard should have welcomed her instead of doing nothing or even seething. The fact that there were actual people who thought she was a Holo should have been a giant red flag
>Nijisanji management literally needed to have her under a manager the moment that they saw that they struck gold. And they needed to make sure that everyone knew that the hottest vtuber on the planet was a fucking niji and that there are more people like her under their brand
So much wasted potential...

>> No.39743922

>>39738018
People started touching grass again.

>> No.39744016

>>39742093
JPs have such inflated egos just like vox does, souless numberfags

>> No.39744211

Salome was propped up for the IPO of the nijisanji stock and nothing more.
That's the truth of it. Even the other branches stopped memeing about her desu wa catchphrase like a week into her debut. And her thread on /vt/ died early into the second month too.

Then you have the jealous as fuck kanae and ibrahim complaining about her popularity.

Funnily enough Salome and Kobo destroyed vox mentally which lead to his "I used to be the top dog, nobody was growing as much as we did" rant playing minecraft lol.

>> No.39744447

>>39741799
>Niji management should‘ve tried to tardwrangle the shitters that threw tantrums
I feel obligated to point out Hololive's managers, for all the shit they get, would never have allowed this to happen. They would have told the girls to shut the fuck up and put on a smile or else. They'd have company-mandated collabs with company-mandated friendships and the girls would have had to suck it up and comply.

>> No.39744736

>>39744016
It's human nature anon, and I'm not even saying that it's something bad it's natural. I mean its easy to understand why
>For most of the old guard, the fact that some newbie suddenly became the hottest thing since sliced bread and speedran through 1 mil subs like it was nothing while you're fucking stuck grinding your ass off
>Prior to Salome only Kuzuha and Kanae in JP were at 1mil, Iinchou had just recently reached 1 mil and Sara has been grinding for close to 2 years for it
>If you were Radanculous or however the fuck you spell their group name, after getting sacrificed at the altar of Holofes you suddenly see this newbie getting all the fame while you're stuck in 3 view hell with barely anything going for you
You can't really blame them if they suddenly get jealous.

>> No.39744802

Salome literally seperated herself from the rest of the branch and seemingly never cared about any of her senpai, and never joined any tournaments (she didn't even want to be included in koshien) and yet the other members "should have welcomed her". There is nothing the other members can do if she just straight up refuses to associate herself with the rest of the roster.

>> No.39744991

>>39744447
>thinking that hololive management actually does anything aside from leeching from the girls
More than likely, it's the fact that Holo JP has an overabundance of hags that keep everyone in line. FBK is like the equivalent of the President of the group and I doubt that she would allow any form of Civil war to happen under her watch

>> No.39745226

>>39744802
That could easily be because she could feel the seethe coming from her Senpais. When fucking Mito of all people isn't willing to welcome you, how do you even try to integrate yourself to the group. It's fucking sad that Salome has more of a connection to Pekora of all people than any of the other Nijis.

>> No.39745679

>>39745226
kek she never even tried to integrate in the first place. the rrat that every other member wasn't willing to welcome her is a dumb excuse. she just plainly doesn't care about the other members.

>> No.39745732

>>39738018
They were never "her" viewers. She just lucked out to become a trendy meme because all of the stars and bots aligned, but "lol look at my intestines desu wa" can only carry you so far. The fact that she managed to sustain that many viewers is actually worthy of praise.

>> No.39745906

>>39743885
You fell for a scam. Stop trying to convince yourself you were right and accept the reality of her mediocrity.

>> No.39747859

>>39745732
It kinda goes both ways. Mito could have probably played her Senpai card and got Salome to playball whether she wanted to or not. Mind you, Mito's senpai card is probably as strong if not stronger than Sora's since she also came from the four king's era and was actually succesful.

>> No.39748454

I feel like Salome is not even in Niji just a huge indie streamer

>> No.39750775

>>39745906
>accept the reality of her mediocrity.
Fuck off jealous faggot.
Salome is bigger than the vast majority of Holos despite being a solo streamer, in the debuff company, without the need to shill collabs and milk 3D and events to not fall to obscurity.

>> No.39751144

>>39745679
maybe Salome would‘ve been more willing to interact with the other Nijis if they didn‘t treat her with hostility the moment she started surpassing them. They don‘t treat the ENs with bigger numbers like this so why single Salome out?

>> No.39754085

youtube shut down some of her viewbots

>> No.39755326
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39755326

>>39742093
>>39743021
>>39743356
>>39744016
>>39744736
You guys really believed a holofag that knows nothing about NijiJP

>> No.39756896

>>39748454
I end up forgetting it from time to time that she is. Not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

>> No.39756940

>>39738018
Turned out she's a fucking boring piece of cunt

>> No.39757005

>>39756896
It's one of the big advantages of NijiJP. Nobody has the retarded expectations of them that people have of Hololive and NijiEN where they're all friends and constantly collab with eachother. Salome is an extreme example but there's plenty of other livers who go 99% solo and might as well be indie and it's great.

>> No.39757006

what shook up the /#/bot hivemind this time

>> No.39757286

>>39747859
Mito senpai card is as strong as other Niji first wave, she just happened to debut first among them, next debut is like the next day while Sora is literally the founder of Hololive, and not only being old chuuba not really relevant in the company hierarchy but you also wrong on that since Mito is 2018 chuuba while 4 Kings are 2017 chuuba

>> No.39757290
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39757290

>>39757005
I still really enjoy her streams, Pokemon lately has been pretty comfy overall and I'm glad the stress of those earlier streams and other bits has worn off.

>> No.39761623

>>39738018
Still doing fine

>> No.39762488

>>39739690
Gura fell off because of youtube culls and ccvid
Salome fell off after barely a month right after blackkara went public.
Those two arent comparable.

>> No.39763081

>>39750775
>the need to shill collabs and milk 3D and events to not fall to obscurity.
You just described nijisanji perfectly

>> No.39763309

>>39757006
Tomorrow niji will mog entire holo for three days straight with likely 250k+ streams back to back while holo are struggling to break even 200k

>> No.39763376

>>39738018
People moved on from the hype.

That's why slow success is better.

>> No.39763407

10k is pretty darn good

>> No.39763429

>>39738018
>viewers

>> No.39763813

>>39738018
And nijifags still somehow deny that anycolor was using bots

>> No.39764112

>>39762488
>Gura fell off because of youtube culls and ccvid
How did the culls affect her LIVE view count and how in the world would you correlate Covid causing her to LOSE viewers and momentum when the rest gained?

>> No.39764616

>>39764112
Newfag

>> No.39765491

>>39764616
Chumbud, I'm so sorry for you this year. When that return stream happens and she manages to hit 40k, please make as many threads about the queens return. I'll give you the pass, the good one.

>> No.39766056

>>39738018
Nijibot servers got destroyed during the anti lock down riots earlier this year

>> No.39766118

>>39738286
Nigger that's not how a debut buff works, Salome got consistently higher numbers for her first month than her debut. Not even Gura had that

>> No.39767962

>>39764112
>How did the culls affect her LIVE view count
The first one culled half of their viewers
The second around 20% of the remainer
And then the fact that she was streaming less and less and management being trash didnt help either
>how in the world would you correlate Covid causing her to LOSE viewers and momentum when the rest gained?
CCVID not covid retard
CCVID is what we describe the second cull as.

>> No.39768063

>>39738018
>bot viewers to trick investors
anyone saying otherwise is a delusional nijifag

>> No.39768626

>>39767962
>we

>> No.39768880

>>39768626
>(You)

>> No.39769496

Guratards still coping about their imaginary culls. Face it. She's the biggest pump and dump in existence. Biggest vtuber in the world? She's not even in the top 10 currently. Fucking irrelevant nobody. JPs rule supreme and always will.

>> No.39770100

>>39769496
>imaginary cull
go back newfag

>> No.39770104

>>39769496
>imaginary
You're even more retarded than the coping chumbuds.

>> No.39772297

>>39738018
Did they even exist?

>> No.39772320

>>39738018
Bilibili pulled out and stopped funding the view bots

>> No.39772349

>>39770100
>>39770104
He's right, there was never at any point an EN cull.

>> No.39772732

>>39740395
It not even a coincidence anymore, solo debut, get more ccv than any chubba, high ccv throughout month preparing for IPO. After that it all crumble down, ibrahim mention for niji to capitalize salome popularity but why would them when it not real, she been solo most of her career which is sus because collab will bring more view and repopulate them to other niji chubba. Now she just shill for niji product and sponsored which could be from 5-20k far from 120k which she lose in just 6 months.

>> No.39773109

>>39772349
Kek why do you want to sound like a cult leader so badly?
>there was no cull! i swear there was no cull!! earth is flat!! i-i was there!

>> No.39773129

>>39738018
Nijifags /here/ jinxed her by gloating for 2 weeks about le big number

>> No.39773304

>>39767962

Guras unnerfed numbers are about up there with Marine and Peko which shows what the normal Hololive audience actually is . Salome was getting as many views as her companies major events solo while Bugmen were bragging about botting her numbers up because just enough of them thought this would hurt Hololive for a two year old grudge against somebody not even with the company anymore. You can see the distortion pretty clearly and unfortuantely this poor girl got used as a pawn in a bunch of bugskitzos "war"

>> No.39773407

>>39773304
same with touya's stream
they botted it to have more viewers than hololive christmas relay and then raided the numbers thread thinking it's some kind of own lmao
bunch of losers

>> No.39775200

>>39765491
I like to imagine he called you a newfag for not recognizing bait.

>> No.39775985
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39775985

Salome is the perfect vtuber, she is fun, entertaining, joyful, never gets angry, never swears, doesn't collab with males aside for a couple calls despite being in Nijisanji, streams consistently, streamed during Christmas and Christmas eve, doesn't coombait, respects her male and female fans, doesn't milk gachikois despite she easily could've have, doesn't treat her fans like ATM machines like other leeches by often disabling superchats and not enabling memberships, the success never got to her head. The fact she gets hate here just tells this place is filled with the most disgusting rotten people imaginable.

>> No.39776190

>>39775985
Maybe if you didn't shove her into everyone's faces back when she was riding high she wouldn't be getting pushback now

>> No.39776333

>>39776190
Weird that hololive doesn't get pushback despite being shoved in our faces since the boards creation. Really makes you think.

>> No.39776334

>>39775985
>Stating facts is now hate
>Asking questions is now hate

>> No.39776395

>>39750775
Solome at the start was bigger then most stremers anon she had like 10 stremes at 100k it will drive livestremers mad if they know about it but she fell really hard 10k is not bad but she could have been so much better it's not even about holo at this point they really didn't utilise anything to make her big

>> No.39776467

>>39763376
True but she could have retained much more if the management and her tried harder they didn't push any Collab didn't try anything unique but only watched as her numbers fell further and further

>> No.39776470

>>39776333
>come to holoboard
>get surprised nobody is mad that hololive is posted

>> No.39776498

>>39776333
Gee anon it's almost as if holofags don't start threads about holos by using them to shit on the competition

>> No.39776629

>>39776498
>holofags don't start threads about holos by using them to shit on the competition
First day here?

>> No.39776928
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39776928

>>39776629
Projecting much?

>> No.39776941

>>39776928
Oh wow gee I sure wonder why people hate Salome

>> No.39776969

>>39738018
Aged like salami

>> No.39777169

>>39776928
Looks like holofag false flagger to me.

>> No.39777267

>>39777169
>Akshually it's
Pathetic.

>> No.39777289

>>39777169
>nijifag gets btfo
>I-i-it must be falseflagging holofag
Every time

>> No.39777350

>>39777169
Why would a genuine holofag falseflag in this situation? That doesn't make any sense.

>> No.39777427

>>39777350
In nijifag mind they can do no wrong, and everything bad people claim they did must be the restful of falseflaging holofags trying to give them a bad name. It's ridiculous the extent they'll go not to own up to their actions

>> No.39778898

>>39738018
botted views

>> No.39779197

>>39755326
kek, like half of them are "who?"-tier in the eyes of n00mbernigger, of course they wouldn't know

>> No.39779314

>>39773304
>Guras unnerfed numbers are about up there with Marine and Peko which shows what the normal Hololive audience actually is
JP audience and EN audience are not the same thing.

>> No.39779343

>>39738018
Never trust casuals

>> No.39779832

>>39776498
lol

>> No.39781129

>>39776190
>Everyone's
Numberniggers now believe they are the entire board, lmao...
That didn't happen, the catalog was never flooded with Salome like you do with every time it happens with your stupid dramas.

>> No.39785422

>>39776928
>four(4) threads in 7 days
do holobronies really?

>> No.39787372

>>39738018
They left.

>> No.39788299

>>39738018
「「「tourists」」」left her. When your chat is more like a IShowSpeed one than a Pekora's, clearly there is something wrong with the amount of real viewers watching her( and yes I watch her more often than most of the Holomembers as she's ranked highly in my personal taste in Vtubers).

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