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Is this the worst redesign in vtuber history?

>> No.39728105

>>39728041
twitch whorepocalpse is much worse.

>> No.39728181
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>>39728041
Alexa, post every single vshojo redesign.

>> No.39728226

>>39728181
Is it really worth mentioning for someone who gets a redesign every month?

>> No.39728251
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I miss them.

>> No.39728330

>>39728226
Only because each redesign gets worse and worse

>> No.39728462

Didn't he drop viewers since that as well?

>> No.39728934

>>39728041
Sad day for ojisan lovers

>> No.39729004

>>39728462
yep. which sucks, since i find his exposed armpit and fuckboy energy very sexual and ripe for rape fantasies.

>> No.39729046

>>39728462
oof...

>> No.39729258

>>39728462
I just added up the views for the 80 streams prior to the redesign and the 80 streams following it and averaged them out.
7715.5 before
8617.5 after
The collabs and some special events had significantly higher numbers than his usual streams though so the median results might be different.

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>>39728041
should've went full wehraboo instead

>> No.39730717

>>39728041
post the Pikamee

>> No.39730794

>>39728462
He's always had low viewers, the redesign didn't change anything

>> No.39732334

>>39728462
nah, there was no change

>> No.39732585

>>39728041
No, because his face is still the same.
A chuuba's personality is embodied by their model. If a stranger showed up to your door claiming to be your wife or husband, would you believe them? For this reason, any design, even if it's an objectively good design, that changes a chuuba's face entirely is bad.
Even though I like Azki's redesign more than her original model, if I were an Azki fan, I would feel like it's an entirely different person. This more often than not hurts the chewber innit too, because I've noticed *most* of the time they will decline after a redesign.
So while pizzaman's new design is objectively shit, it still looks like him and I could still watch him the same way.

>> No.39732651

>>39729258
Pizzapapa ain’t coming back then…
Wait a minute he’s already done 80 streams with his new look???

>> No.39732796

>>39732585
you can definitely get a new face while keeping the same "feel" it had before and not alienate everyone who was familiar with you. see: suisei, irys, flare (although hers a lot less drastic).

>> No.39733353

it still hurts, can't get over it...

>> No.39734210

>>39732796
Suisei is very different now but I think she was one of those cases where it was needed. Her original model looked no better than a stock Live2D, very plain and cheap looking. Most of the times it's not really NEEDED, but rather the chuuba is schizo. See: Ironmouse
>
Irys I'd say is about 50/50. I think a lot of the unique charm was lost, but at the same time it doesn't feel entirely unfamiliar due to having the same artist. For me I think the new model feels a little sterile. It is nice though. She's declined a little bit since the reveal.
>
Flare is a good example. Mostly the eyes were made to look a little bigger, the coloring was more vibrant and her shoulders were raised. But the face was kept almost entirely the same.
Roboco is another good example of this. She even made sure the same hairstyles and accessories were available for her new model.

>> No.39734369
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>>39732585
>I would feel like it's an entirely different person
migo...

>> No.39734762

Honestly, I think the fuckboi DJ model is pretty hot too. His hair colour and skin tone combo is really sexy in both versions, and it still looks like him. While it's a shame he lost the ojisan charm, I don't think the new model itself is bad at all.

>> No.39734901

>>39732585
>his face is still the same.
Are you blind? His younger face is shorter and squarer and has less pronounced cheekbones. It has a smaller nose and a wider jaw. The mouth is smaller and his eyebrows are less angular.
I know it's anime and all but for fuck's sake anon, the faces are clearly different.

>> No.39737101

>>39728462
the change was so minor that it shouldn't be an argument.
I miss Arupapa, though.

>> No.39739939

>>39737101
>the change was so minor
>stylish older man changed into a young guy that dresses like a flamboyant homosexual hood rat

>> No.39740024

>>39739939
i meant the viewership change, should've clarified, sorry.

>> No.39747208

>>39728041
yes. it's horrible.

>> No.39751034

>>39728041
Good model, awful redesign.

>> No.39751147

>>39739939
Honestly would be better if he was a young buck to start with and then became an old man.

>> No.39751197
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39751197

No.

>> No.39751380

>>39751197
Was she possessed by a lewd demon?

>> No.39751619

>>39751197
First time hearing about her. Hope it would be the last one as well.

>> No.39751798

>>39728041
OG Pizza papa will always be my preferred style but the new one does thematically fit in with the rest of Holostars more. And if it assuages his midlife crisis then good for him. Worst would easily go to Pikamee. Even if it's not a redesign it's all she ever uses and she tells anyone that likes the old design to fuck off. GYARI terminated the wrong VOMS member.

>> No.39752083

>>39751197
First they came for the VShojos
And I did not speak
Because eww, gross twitch whores
Then they came for the small corpos and indies
And I did not speak out
Because I'm not a paid shill and/or paypig
Then they came for the Niji girls
And I did not speak out
Because I am not a cuck
Then they came for the cunny
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

>> No.39752102

It's what women want

>> No.39752125

>>39751798
Yeah Pikamee had *two* separate disastrous redesigns. No way is she not the queen of this.

>> No.39752224
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>>39752125

>> No.39752365

Hololive fans should not be allowed to comment on vtuber designs outside of their bubble.

>> No.39752436

>>39752224
Honestly just seems really disrespectful to GYARI, like telling him directly to his art sucks and to fuck off I wanna be a loli. I know people shit on the chibi hoodie pikamee, but I thought that was really cute and unironically the one of the most underrated things of anything ever, but now she doesn't even use that and just uses the shitty loli models now.

>> No.39752501
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>>39728041

>> No.39753091

>>39752224
I'm fine with this one because the OG style filtered the fuck out of me.
Ugly cartoon style with no chin. And the kaiju hoodie model was even worse, she had fucking goblin proportions with a tiny body and long arms and a huge head, also staring into the side permanently.
Her new look is cute.

>> No.39753094

>>39752224
Why do people hate the kaiju costume?

>> No.39754259

>>39752436
GYARI deserves it for firing magnet out of nowhere.
Right after she celebrated her fucking 100k subs too.

>> No.39754388

>>39754259
Wasn't she fired for having a drunk stream while being underage?

>> No.39754993

>>39754388
famous theory but not confirmed

>> No.39755049

>>39734901
Same style, still the same face. Other redigns usually fuck up everything.

>> No.39755542

>>39753091
>Her new look is cute.
It is but it doesn't fit her.

>> No.39755908

>>39728041
Yes. Absolutely.

>> No.39758137

>>39755542
You probably say that because you were used to the older look.
She's a cute girl, that's a cute girl avatar. Fits well enough to me.

>> No.39760949

>>39758137
>She's a cute girl
She's a gremlin.

>> No.39761118

>>39729004
I watched him to see Itariajin ojisan antics, now it's just Itariajin mafia fakuboi.
I still tune in the Pizza Pasta song he did with FBK when I have free time desu

>> No.39761130

>>39752224
All 3 of these are really good and fit her. The only people who say otherwise aren't even pika fans. Now fuck off.

>> No.39761190

>>39728041
I hate this

>> No.39761385
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>>39753094
Because it went full retard with the body proportions. It looks fine when you're only seeing it from the shoulders up on stream though, which creates an illusion that it's not so bad. But it is.

>> No.39761641

>>39761385
What the hell, why would you give it midget legs?

>> No.39761700

>>39728181
Its not a redesign though.

>> No.39762118

>>39728041
Which one is the redesign? Because the one on the right looks way better.

>> No.39763394

>>39762118
That is the original. He had a unique (among Cover talents at least) ojisan look, then threw it away to become a fuckboy.

>> No.39763499

>>39763394
Holy fuck that is a horrible redesign then. I assumed it was the opposite.

>> No.39763501

>>39728041
>Covers endgame is turning the old men/women of the company to zoomers
Hide your oshi

>> No.39763522

>>39728041
Yes. Emasculate the man because all male chuubas should look like a bishie and then wonder why people don't watch them other than fujos.

>> No.39763952

>>39763522
Aruran himself was the one that wanted to look younger though, and most fans seemed to like him better as an ojisan, so...?

>> No.39764122

>>39763952
So he wanted to emasculate himself thinking his fans would like his bishie self when his fans liked his ojisan design. Simple as. Aruran is dumb, but I guess he felt left behind in looking cool and hip like the zoomers.

>> No.39767418

>>39728041
He's going through a mid life crisis, plead be nice

>> No.39767780

>>39767418
Wouldn't pretending to be a young guy just make it worse?

>> No.39768995

>>39767780
Mid life crisis doesn't work like that anon, there's a reason why most men who suffer from it buy big red expensive sports cars

>> No.39769519

>>39728041
I will forever die on this hill: The redesign isn’t bad, it’s how he handled it was god fucking awful.

>> No.39769573

>>39769519
Funny, I see it as the opposite. He did a good job of trying to sell it, but the redesign is just too horrible to accept regardless.

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>>39728181
>>39728041
I don't care if she ditch it already, the latina being coomer bait is cringe

>> No.39769990

>>39769573
Ok now I’m curious, how do you think he sold it well? I have a few ideas on how MAYBE he tried, such as trying to get his audience used to it by using it up until the Arupapa design farewell on his birthday. So far tho, the bad kind of outweighs the good for me

>> No.39770114

>>39728041
Looks fine to me

>> No.39770403

>>39728041
The worst part is that he apparently wanted this for a very long time. His original design is genuinely really goddamn good but he willingly wanted to become a generic bitchboy.

>> No.39770813
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>>39728041
Nope.

>> No.39770910

>>39728041

In Cover, definitely. VShojo though probably has the worst when it comes to being unrecognizable when they do changes.

There is no way anyone would see the Underworld Goddess version of Ironmouse and go "Yep, that's the same character." Hell, her initial, free avatar was more recognizable as her. Zen's switch from dragon to Cyborg is equally as unrecognizable.

I'd also say that Pikamee is up there in terms of redesigns just completely changing changing the feel of her from her previous models.

>>39732585
How face blind are you that you think those look the same?

>> No.39770959

>>39728041
If I ever tried to become a vtuber, I would have loved to have his old design. What a damn waste.

>> No.39770980

... I like Flare old lizard face..

>> No.39770989

>>39728041
Yeah it's up there

>> No.39770991

>>39770980
It was kinda cute in a way.

>> No.39772223
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>>39764122
What, exactly, about the redesign is "emasculating"? He still looks very masculine, he just looks like a young fuckboy instead of a middle-aged man.

Whether you think that's better or worse is subjective, but his redesign has not made him a "bishie". He still looks like a muscular older brother figure next to the slender pretty boy types like Rikka, Miyabi, etc.

>> No.39773296

>>39770980
How dare you. That face was my favorite, and that voice…
>tfw you will never get Flare’s old singing voice back :(

>> No.39773343

>>39732651
He streams....a lot. Like a stupid amount. Think Kaela/Koyori.

>> No.39773489

>>39751197
on the one hand,
sex
on the other hand
SEX

>> No.39774193

>>39764122
I think he just wanted a younger model as he's not that old and doesn't really like larping as older man.

>> No.39777533

>>39728041
For a man, it's up there

>> No.39778293
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>>39728041
Which is the re-design? I guess it makes sense he got older.

>> No.39778938

>>39778293
His old model is on the right.

>> No.39781603

>>39728041
Yes

>> No.39782290

>>39751197
>>39751619
>>39752083
>>39752501
>>39770813
kill yourselves pedos

>> No.39786935
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39786935

>>39772223
>He still looks very masculine, he just looks like a young fuckboy

>> No.39787071

>>39782290
based

>> No.39790070

>>39782290
Die whore.

>> No.39793548

>>39728041
I could have lived with something in between the two, keep the facial proportions the same but go younger, maybe a bit less zoomershit as far as outfit style goes, but I just can't bring myself to like this redesign.

>> No.39795922
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>goes from having one of the most gorgeous designs to Veibae with a wig

>> No.39796288

>>39770813
Is there a lazier answer than this one, probably by the same person every time these threads show up

>> No.39796442

>>39786935
If you think his new model looks feminine, you might want to get your eyes checked dude
https://twitter.com/arurandeisu/status/1606288847733551104

>> No.39798331

>>39769752
Will anything ever come close to Mousey's first model?

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