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YOU FUCKING WKNOW WHAT? IM FUCKING SHITFACED AT 3AM WATCHING THE FUCKING CHRISTMAS RELAY AND I CANNOT STOP THINKING ABOUT THE RUSHIA. SHE WOULD BE FUCKING LIVE RIGHT NOW YOU KNOW MATE. SHE WOULD BE FUCKING SINGING AT 3 AM IN THE FUCKING 2022 HOLOLIVE KURISUMASU RIREEE MATE. SHIT IS JUST NOT FUCKING FAIR LIFE IS NOT BLOODY FAIR MATE. AND YOU KNOW WHAT ?
IT'S HER FAULT
SHE IS A FUCKING DUMBFUCK MATE
ALL SHE HAD TO DO WAS TO TURN ON THE FUCKING DO NO T DISTURB MODE FOR FUCKS SAKE. I HONESTLY CANNOT BELIEVE SHE'S FUCKING GONE FUCK FUCK FUCK.
FUCKING HELL WHAT A RETARD. SHE'S MY OSHII BUT HOLY FUCK WHAT A FUCKING BRAINDEAD MOVE MATE, HONESTLY. THE REMEMBRANCE OF HER STUPIDITY MAKES ME LAUGH SOMETIMES. WHAT A MONGOL. JUST IMAGINE. FLICKING THAT SILENT MODE SWITCH WOULD'VE CHANGED FUCKING EVERYTHING I CAN'T FUCKING BELIEVE IT MATE. HONESTLY, IT PISSES ME OFF, SHE SHOULD BE FUCKING HERE SINGING RIGHT NOW.
I'M ABOUT TO EMPTY THE FUCKING SMIRNOFF BOTTLE AND MY MARLBOROS ARE FUCKING GONE I SWEAR TO GOD MATE, I WOULD GIVE UP ALL MY VICES JUST TO SEE RUSHIA BACK AGAIN, JUST ONE TIME, AT THE FUCKING HOLOLIVE 2022 CHRISTMASS RELAYY BY OOKAMI MIO MATE. JUST FUCKING SHOOT ME IF THAT'S WHAT TI FUCKING TAKES.
I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYUMORE HONESLTY, I MIGHT END UP KILLING MYSELF BECAUSE THIS IS MY 4TH CHRISTMASS IN A ROW WATCHING HOLOLIVE AND THE ABSENCE OF URHUTA RUSHIA IS FUCKING DEPRESSING
BUT YOU FUCKING KNOW WHAT MATE? I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ANYMORE. I MIGHT AS WELL GROW UP AND GIVE UP FUCKING VIRTUAL YOUTUB ERS. YOU KNOW WHAT? I WASN'T EVEN A PAYPIG, SO I DIDN'T LOSE A SINGLE FUCKING CENT MATE. SO FUCK OFF, HONESTLY. THIS MIGHT AS WELL BE THE LAST FUCKING CHRISTMAS I WATCH THE STUPID RELAY WITH THE SAME STUPI9D SONG ON REPEAT.
MAYBE GROWING AS A PERSSON WAS THE LAST THING RUSHIA WISHED FOR US. I'M GONNA MAKE IT BROS FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCK THIS SHIT. VTUBERS ARE FUCKING OVER FOR ME FROM KNOW ON. THANKS RUSHIA I FUCKING LOVE YOU YOU STUPID MONGOLE WHORE (I MISS YOU <333 )

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39608634

>>39608291
>anon went through the 5 stages of grief in a single post
S-sugoii…

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>>39608291

>> No.39608681

>>39608634
https://youtu.be/yOZ2DYxIvnU

>> No.39608819

>>39608291
Bizarro /vt/ Thread?
Bizarro /vt/ Thread

>> No.39609305

>>39608291
Let it all out, anon.

>> No.39609417

>>39608681
kek

>> No.39609470

>>39608291
>3am
>mate
The only place where it's 3am at the time of this post is in the US east coast. Why are you LARPing as an aussie?

>> No.39610387

>>39608291
Mucho texto

>> No.39610568
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>>39608291
if only we could have protected her smile bros. I know what happened was her own fault but I can't help but miss her.

>> No.39610720

You retards know she streamed this Christmas right?

>> No.39610753

>>39610720
>not in hololive
dont care

>> No.39611033

>>39608291
Idiots get what they deserve. Find a better oshi mate.

>> No.39611664

>>39608291
Based. Go with God, brother.

>> No.39611713
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>People speculate she'a fucking a guy because of a Discord notification
>Shitposters spread rrats about them fucking
>Rushia clarifies she's not fucking that guy
>Guy clarifies he's not fucking her
>Twitter hears of this, thinking they can girl power Rushia into owning the chuds
>Twitter is mass replying that it's okay for them to fuck
>Even Hololive's Twitter says they don't care Rushia and the guy are fucking
>Rushia clarifies again that she isn't fucking anyone
>Twitter doesn't care about Rushia anymore, high on dopamine they get 100k likes on art of her and the guy getting married, fucking, having kids, etc.
>Rushia, in a panic to save her brand, leaks info to a youtuber hoping it'll stop the rumors and shipping
>Gets her fired because it included info under NDA
>Shitposters win
>All because she didn't change her Discord settings
Chaos is a ladder

>> No.39611742

>>39608291
Best thread right now. OP you need a new oshi and keep pumping out gold

>> No.39611903

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWPYn722uww&ab_channel=%E3%81%BF%E3%81%91%E3%81%AD%E3%81%93ch
She's streaming today

>> No.39612408

>>39611903
Pink bitch

>> No.39612431

>>39612408
wife*

>> No.39612456

>>39608291
Calm the fuck down Soju you're drunk

>> No.39612460

>>39608291
>SMIRNOFF
>MARLBOROS
you deserve it

>> No.39612654
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39612654

>>39608291
WASH AWAY THE ANGER

>> No.39612704

>>39610720
The retard here is you.
Here, let me make it easier for a retard like you.
Rushia = rushia's pic + voice actor
Nazuna = nazuna's pic + voice actor
Rushia =/= Nazuna

>> No.39612845

>>39608291
Move on retard.
she is somewhat "self improving too in the whore team (made miguel the dedicated schizo ventig persona instead of having rushia an all in one, does EN reps so has some sort of "hobby" for when she is not streaming to keep her menhera away off stream).
It wasn't even silent mode on discord the downfall, just had to stay quiet after it, something current rushia might be able to do

>> No.39613100

>>39612704
Pretty much all of the fandead were obsessed with the personality of the girl behind the avatar moreso than anything. That's why they listened to her voice only Twitcast streams.
Out of all of the fanbases to try to pull this autism with, you've picked the one that genuinely doesn't give a shit about keeping things separately.

>> No.39613920

>>39608634
Kek

>> No.39614819

>>39613100
>That's why they listened to her voice only Twitcast streams
You don't do this ?

>> No.39614885

>>39614819
I do when she streams at a time that I can listen to her. Of course, I'm one of the fandead that follows her on both Mikeneko and Nazuna, so it's only natural

>> No.39614953

>>39608291
She got canned for leaking info, not forgetting to flick the "do not disturb" switch.

>> No.39615051

>>39614953
I think it reflects a lot on the type of people who watch vtubers that they kept trying to push the rrat that she had doxxed the Holomen instead of just having sent a screenshot of one conversation with her manager.
I wonder if it's because people love drama or that they wanted her to have done far worse things in order to make the firing more justified.

>> No.39615284

>>39615051
Expect she did more than that, didn’t she take pictures of her entire room and send them to a jp dramafag, didn’t she show a fuck ton of her company discord logs to dramafag, I’m not necessarily saying she doxxed anyone (but herself) because I don’t think there’s any proof that she either did or didn’t but she clearly made some kind of massive breach for hololive to do a full 180 going from supporting her after the discord message was shown to terminating her

>> No.39615348

>>39615284
We don't have access to a play by play of what happened behind the scenes. And in Japanese companies, information moves slow.

>> No.39615351

>>39615284 (me)
Except*
god damn it

>> No.39615356

>>39608291
I'm sorry for your pain fandead, I also believe it should have never happened and this timeline is not the best, very unfortunate

>> No.39615716

>>39612654
HERE I DOX MYSELF JUST FOR KOREKORE

>> No.39615718

>>39615284
>she clearly made some kind of massive breach for hololive to do a full 180 going from supporting her after the discord message was shown to terminating her
Yeah, she showed a conversation between herself and her manager. A Japanese company like Cover is going to always prioritize their staff and managers over the talent. Also, you that statement wasn't a complete defence of her. It was Cover covering their own ass. Saying
>we don't care if she's fucking the alien
isn't a defence of her at all, they're just trying to make themselves seem like a better company to the general public. They even mentioned the leaks in that statement to prepare the general public for the termination in advance. Their line about not slandering talents is pretty ironic considering their own vague termination statement is one of the biggest causes of Mikeneko's harrassment to this day.
>her company discord logs to dramafag
I imagine she only showed her conversation with Mafu, which, while done with her company Discord, is definitely a massive stretch to call it "company logs". By that logic, any time a Holo has shown their Discord conversations with another Holo would also constitute the same type of breach.

>> No.39615727

>>39615051
Nah, I thought firing her was a bit extreme on Cover's part. I just wanted to clarify the reason as to why she was terminated. Something like Vesper's 2 week suspension would have been far better punishment.

>> No.39615799

>>39615727
You'd think after Vesper's thing that people would realise that Cover care more about their managers than their talents, but that was a lesson that wasn't learned
It's even funnier in Vesper's case because absolutely none of the public could even figure out why they had suspended him.

>> No.39615961

Vesper's case was manager related too?

>> No.39616052

>>39615961
something about his temper and management. probably perms related given he wanted to do a 24 hour XCOM stream the first week of his suspension.
Axel's deleted VOD revealed that Stars JP management was trying to meddle with the boys projects etc. and EN management had to step in.

>> No.39616123

>>39615799
While I agree with you, it should be noted that prioritizing talent is VShojo's philosophy and it's bitten them in the ass a few times already.

>> No.39616247

>>39611713
This honestly
Rushia got fored because she actually believed in the idol dream so hard she broke nda to prove she was NOT fucking a guy

>> No.39616258

>>39611713
And she didn't ask any of her friends or management about it if she asked anyone she would have come to know how fucking terrible her idea was i really liked rushia but really can't defend her actions here

>> No.39616355

>>39616247
To be fair, Mafumafu is not really a guy.
He is alien.

>> No.39616411

>>39616258
She contacted her manager almost immediately, but her manager was on holidays and refused to help
From how the rest of Sankisei talked about her in the stream they did on the 24th, it sounds like she also contacted them but there wasn't anything they could actually do to help her.
Not to say that her actions were the smartest, but don't lie about what she did

>> No.39616483

>>39616123
VShojo's problem is moreso that the staff are almost comically incompetent.
At the very least, though, she seems to have a better working relationship with them than she did with her last Holo manager.

>> No.39616689

>>39608291
I used to think Cover was at fault for ghosting Rushia during the initial yab but after seeing the way she treated Delta I realized the bitch is truly crazy. Not the fun menhera type but the "i'll ruin your reputation if you mess with me" type. She belongs in Vshojo with the rest of the twitch thots and whores.

>> No.39616862

>>39616689
>after seeing the way she treated Delta
No idea what you mean by this. Mike told Delutaya to go to her lawyer to handle that because it's better to have a trained professional deal with cases like slander.
>"i'll ruin your reputation if you mess with me"
Are you sure you're not projecting here? Delutaya spent 2 weeks drawing up an extremely biased telling of events with her own lawyer and namedropped Mikeneko just because she didn't get her own way in acquiring Mike's evidence. Delu's statement was so misleading that she actually contradicted a few of the points in the statement herself when she replied to a few comments on her Fanbox post
Mike had said that the reason she didn't publish that video was that she didn't want to be the type of person who would interfere with another streamer's activities. It's a shame that Delutaya wasn't as mature as Mike

>> No.39616880

>>39608291
Really? On Christmas?

>> No.39616895

>>39608291
Nazuna = Rushia
Same fucking shit. Stop crying niggers

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>>39616355
>>39616247
I choose to believe this one, mostly because I like the, "Rushia was proved to legally be a virgin in the court of law. Checkmate antis" joke.
Ganbatte fandead bros.

>> No.39617306

>>39617140
I just think it's funny how both effected parties went on record to say that they weren't together but twittards and redditors kept pushing the story that they were together, thinking they were helping and ruining both careers as a result

>> No.39617348

>>39617306
Honestly without the normalfags pushing it, Rushia could've weathered the tide.

>> No.39617502

>>39608291
*dies of cringe*

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rushi

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Jeez OP. I don't know what to say

>> No.39618084

>>39616258
Doesn’t matter. She was told back in November of last year to stop contacting drama tubers by her manager. There’s a reason there’s been so little leaks after she got booted. She just never wanted to listen

>> No.39619069

>>39610753
Based blue dorito god.

>> No.39619210

>>39608291
Never take your meds OP

>> No.39619468

She seems happy to me
https://youtu.be/KHGyXrbfvt4

>> No.39619473

>>39618084
Retard. Korekore had insider info just a few days ago and Mike has had him blocked for months. Besides.
>It is true that I revealed my LINE messages of my manager to one person. However, this was sent to try to stop that story. Outside of that I did not leak any other information nor say any falsehoods. Furthermore, the information I sent, was not related to the company nor management nor trade secrets, and was not information related to any of the members.
Her statement

>> No.39620356

>>39610720
thinking the character and the rm are the same is doxxfag logic

>> No.39621708

>>39615961
He unironically called manager a nigger

>> No.39622242

>>39616862
Mike told her fans her delusional scenarios in a (unarchived) member twitcast.
That's why Delu namedropped Mike.
It's to stop the rrats to snowball out of control behind the scene.

>> No.39622965

>>39622242
>rrats
Not rrats if it's real, boy. There's really no excuses Delu's actions

>> No.39623291

>>39622242
>It's to stop the rrats to snowball out of control behind the scene.
There were almost no posts on 5ch about this and a single post on here about it, which was deleted shortly afterwards, after Mike's stream. None of the big matome websites covered it until Delta made it public.
Sounds more like Delta's goal was actually to spread rrats

>> No.39623652

>>39608291
I hope too that one day I can move on from Vtubers minus the drunk rant on vt and still being bitter. Really it’s the unrequited love I have for my oshi. I wish I knew who the fuck she was behind that Vtuber model and at be friends but oh well. I’ll have to get a 3d gf one day. Good luck anon

>> No.39623702

>>39622965
definitely delusional.
tell me who's her source again?

>>39623291
not yet.
it's a preventive measure.

>> No.39623933

>>39608634
He's truly the anon with the strongest mind in this board

>> No.39623934

>>39611903
ew fresh, go back to /jp/

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>>39611903
She is waiting for your akasupa anon

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>>39608291
Anon, this is just your alcohol speaking. If you actually want to quit vtuber for real, I suggesting you did these following before you go to bed.
>Unsub from all vtuber channel.
>Unsub from all vtuber related twitter and reddit(yes, we know you go there)
>Hide yo merch, hide yo waifu.
>Just to be sure, clear your cookies.
The true test will be whether or not you will watch new year stream.

>> No.39624783

>>39623702
>not yet.
A full month and nothing came out of it until Delta opened her mouth
>tell me who's her source again?
Sounds like she has two. Narukami gave her a heads up about Delta, but Mike didn't source her second source, which is a video of Delta slandering her.

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OP here, I’m better now but ffffucking hell mate I should stop drinking so much…
Also, I just want to clarify that I’m fully aware She’s in another place now, for better or for worse. It’s just not the same. I loved Rushia not just as a cluster of pixels, but as a concept…

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>>39627007
She belongs to me now, thanks for taking care of her so i can properly correct her from now on with my dick

>> No.39627910

>>39624783
It may be brought up by a dramatuber a lot later on.
It's better to nip the bud early.
If Mike didn't want the drama, she shouldn't give any hints about who that person is. a lot of hints at that.

>Narukami gave her a heads up about Delta
The one who said all of those are bullshit?

>a video of Delta slandering her
delusional. it doesn't exist.
someone won't just record a random discord conversation or conversation in the public.
it won't just magically appear.

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>>39612654
DOXXING IS A CRUEL PARENT, BUT AN EFFECTIVE TEACHER, ITS FINAL LESSON DEEP CARVED INTO MY PSYCHE.
THAT THIS INDUSTRY AND ALL CHUUBAS ARE WHORES

>> No.39628210

>>39628140
>this industry is all whores
Yagoo is not a whore and you will take it back or else
I love him

>> No.39628707

>>39627910
Don't cry too much when Delutaya issues a public apology
If it was a misunderstanding, it would have been sorted out by now. 2 months and no update is extremely telling that Mikeneko has evidence. Go back to your Discord

>> No.39628813

>>39627910
NTA but you sound delusional
Sorry your saviourfag target turned out to be an actual bitch

>> No.39628896

>>39608291
Not sure if not trolling

>> No.39628907

RUSHIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.39629055

>>39619473
It showrd people's names, that on itself is already grounds for civil action

>> No.39630447

Who’s gonna be the next rushia?

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>>39627007
Absolutely lovely song, anon. Source?

>> No.39630991

>>39627007
Mikeneko and Nazuna still fully embody the best parts of Rushia

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39631163

>>39630816
It’s the last track of this album:
https://deathsdynamicshroud.bandcamp.com/album/virtual-utopia-experience

>> No.39631171

>>39628707
>2 months and no update
that's because there is no evidence

>>39628813
let's see who's delusional

>> No.39631612

>>39628707
>that Mikeneko has evidence

lol
retard

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>>39631163
Thanks, anon. You've made my day with this.

>> No.39631649

>>39608291
most mentally-stable fandead

>> No.39631684

>>39609470
hey anon, did you know it's possible to be from one country and live in another? crazy shit, huh?

>> No.39633333

>>39631649
Fanbase reflects the oshi

>> No.39636700

>>39628707
>2 months and no update
Lawyers got involved. There will be no public updates at all and both girls will have been firmly instructed to STFU and let the professionals handle it.

>> No.39637852

>>39608291
Honestly I wish she could've just hunkered down, left the scene for a bit until it all blows up and returns after a month break or so. Ayame might never stream, but perhaps that's a strategy too when schizos go full on cray cray.

>> No.39642174

>>39611713
You forgot the part where
>Rushia doing a dumb yab due to panic and extreme menhera triggers a deeper investigation into what she's been up to
>Turns out she's been violating NDA and leaking shit previously
Rushia being utterly incompetent with regard to technology and opsec pulled the curtain back and cost her her job, but since she was already leaking it was only a matter of time before she got caught over something else.

>> No.39648802

I guess you could say the fandead is dead

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I like Rushia, but the schizophrenia never ends with this one. I'm fed up with it. Fucking victim syndrome while never admitting any of her menhera faults. Timestamp: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1687666479?t=137m56s

>> No.39660375

>>39608291
gone but not forgotten, clearly

>> No.39660481

>>39611713
WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY

>> No.39660548

>>39642174
my source is the catalog

>> No.39660575

>>39617306
>>39617140
There was the other element to all this which is that the fandead were suicidal and the mafudachi were homicidal

>> No.39660885

I don't feel bad about Rushia getting yeeted, cunt deserved it and was and is a mine girl hag

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maybe you should move on

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>>39657022
you know what I hate about Nazunya or whatever the fuck she's called? The fact that she doesn't feel like a "new" or "original" vtuber at all. Whatever the fuck her "character" is, it goes down the fucking drain because everyone fucking knows who she really is, that's her fucking selling point: It's RUSHIA 2 but without the rushia model.
It's all a mediocre and soulless attempt to regain the reputation and popularity she once had; specially coming from v-fucking-shojo of all companies. The fucking Nazunyan thing doesn't feel original, it's just a terrible sequel of Rushia.
It's just like when there's an amazing, big-hit movie that everyone likes, just for its sequel being so fucking cheap and mediocre it only gets released through dvd; that's how watching nazuna feels.
Mikeneko I don't give a fuck about, that's just her own silly attempt at having an online persona but nazunya is nothing but the rotten corpse of Rushia tied to some strings and turned into a puppet.

>> No.39661607

>>39657022
Are you delusional? She already has done that multiple times in twitcasts or on twitter, go read her statement. However, all other parties that were involved never admitted any of their faults.

>> No.39661990

>>39661529
>soul
>tribalist
You don't know what you are talking about. You don't even understand the meaning of soul.

>> No.39662139

>>39661607
The statement where she claimed she still has good relationship with Holopro and now just around Christmas turned around and implied the people there are traitors? The statement where she first called Hololive traitorous and then walked back saying she only meant the management? The statement where she said a Hololive member was bullying her? The statement where she said she broke NDA but did not doxx addresses of Hololive members but it still got her terminated instead suspended like Vesper? The statement that she individually went to korekore with sensitive company details without telling anyone? This bitch is the worst menhera I've seen. If anyone's delusional it's her. I pity the fools who still believe her, and with this screencap it's clear she's never moving past Hololive and would always be a salty menhera about it.

Shame, if she truly shed her past fully, people would give Nazuna a chance; but she enjoys playing the victim card too much.

>> No.39662613

>>39611713
how about you do like pic related and neck yourself?

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i despise how she did it to herself, and basically doomed herself to a company that'll never understand her

>> No.39662761

>>39662139
>The statement where she claimed she still has good relationship with Holopro and now just around Christmas turned around and implied the people there are traitors?
Hololive isn't a single entity. Nothing she's said contradicts itself.
>The statement where she first called Hololive traitorous and then walked back saying she only meant the management?
Except she didn't, it was obvious that she was referring to the management. You didn't follow her so I can't blame you for not understanding that.
>The statement where she said a Hololive member was bullying her?
She said senpai. Look up the definition of it, It's not limited to other holomem. That is very much in line with what is publicly known was going on back then.
>The statement where she said she broke NDA but did not doxx addresses of Hololive members but it still got her terminated instead suspended like Vesper?
It seems you've misunderstood the reasoning for her termination. It wasn't the breach of contract itself that warranted the termination, rather it was just what they made use of to resolve the situation. Vesper's 'drama' didn't blow up like hers. It wasn't one of the most read articles on yahoo, it didn't have a million tweets across multiple hashtags. It didn't cause the Japanese gachis (their target audience) to go crazy. Your comparison is pointless.
>The statement that she individually went to korekore with sensitive company details without telling anyone?
>sensitive
Everyone has seen what she had shared with korekore and there really wasn't anything 'sensitive'. You failed to understand the situation and you failed to understand Cover's statement. The latter I can't blame you for because that's the essence of a PR statement.

>> No.39663204

>>39662761
What I understand is this bitch isn't over it while everybody is over her. What she said in the screencap made it look like she's blaming the entire company plus the other parties. She herself made no distinction so it's normal to assume it's a blanket statement. The "situation" leading to her termination is her violating her contract by leaking info and causing reputational damage to Cover. If it wasn't sensitive info then it wouldn't have damaged the company's reputation. You're merely choosing to believe Rushia over Cover, and that is the less reasonable option when you see how erratic she's become like in the screencap. That came out of left field on Christmas over a fallen angel question which wasn't even serious. Nobody wants to deal with that and she always carry that baggage even after she's booted out.

>> No.39663633

>>39661529
Well spoken

>> No.39664245

>>39663204
>She isn't over it while everybody is over her.
Of course she isn't completely over it, how could she after all she still ahs to deal with? And everybody (you) isn't either. You are here shitting on her in a catalog bait thread, without understanding anything, based on a screencap.
>What she said in the screencap made it look like she's blaming the entire company plus the other parties.
What part makes you think she's blaming the entire company? It's not what she said, it's what you think she thinks, even when she's stated the opposite. You've made up your mind about her and hate her for the sake of it. You seem to be unable to accept and admit that maybe the catalog's rrats and your own misunderstandings are the cause of your hatred. You claim she is unable to admit her faults but are unable to admit that you were wrong and unnecessarily cruel.
>The "situation" leading to her termination is her violating her contract by leaking info and causing reputational damage to Cover. If it wasn't sensitive info then it wouldn't have damaged the company's reputation.
The reputational damages Cover claim in their statement can be directly linked to the publicly shown message to korekore, the discord message and its' impact, i.e. how the public reacted to it.
>You're merely choosing to believe Rushia over Cover
Au contraire, I am not choosing to 'merely believe' her due to bias, but rather a proper analysis of the whole situation, their statements and from each perspective, and an understanding for their motives.
>and that is the less reasonable option when you see how erratic she's become like in the screencap.
She's always been like that and naturally got much worse due to everything that happened and is still happening. What is truly unreasonable, is to disregard that fact and her mental illnesses which are the root of it.
>That came out of left field on Christmas over a fallen angel question which wasn't even serious. Nobody wants to deal with that and she always carry that baggage even after she's booted out.
That question was very much asking about 'that'. You can hear her scrolling through the questions off-screen, she later said that most weren't that interesting / about food etc. Now that's purely speculative, but my guess is there were more questions about that / her past as Rushia and that's why she cancelled the Q&A. I agree with you that nobody wants to deal with that there and she undoubtedly noticed that too after looking at the comments.

>> No.39664339

Who cares? One more shit GFE thot down. And that's a good thing.

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>>39664245
Even if she isn't completely over it, she should shut up about it and not ruin Christmas with it. The part of the screencap that makes me think she blames all of Hololive is how she said "surround yourself with merciless people". If she wanted to make a distinction, she should have. I was watching the live too. And yes, that "situation" around her termination had an impact on Cover like you said, which is why she should've shut up, but she didn't, she had to go rogue and it's stated to already have happened multiple times before. This makes her not the only victim of the situation, but she keeps playing it like she's the only victim. I am not disregarding her mental illness, I am just pissed she didn't do anything about it to make herself better, even something as small as shutting the fuck up about past grudges on fucking Christmas. Her mental illness doesn't excuse every single shitty thing she did. If the fallen angel question was truly asking about her termination, she could've played dumb and given a dumb answer or ignored them; or filter the question before the Q&A starts.

I don't hate Rushia. I loved her. It was just a few days ago that I watched a clip of her 3D live singing Secret Base with Shion and wished she never left. I want to watch Rushia for her cute voice, death-metal screams, songs, games and kindness; without her still being salty over what happened at Hololive. Even if you're right on everything, these menhera acts are becoming too much for me. Until she improves, until she lets go of the past, I can't continue watching her.

>> No.39665677

>>39665168
>Mentally ill woman acts like a mentally ill woman
>"But she should've set that aside for the immediate occasion! Why can't she be normal (for now)?!"
It's not an act. Peak normie moment.

>> No.39665804

>>39665677
If she can put her pants on, she can shut up. That's all. If she can't, then I believe she's not fit to be a good VTuber and I just won't watch her until she improves. ez. Enjoy your madhouse act.

>> No.39665945

>>39665168
>The part of the screencap that makes me think she blames all of Hololive is how she said "surround yourself with merciless people".
If you followed her then you should remember her sab tweets from before the termination. But I still don't see how that would be blaming all of Hololive.
>I was watching the live too. And yes, that "situation" around her termination had an impact on Cover like you said, which is why she should've shut up, but she didn't, she had to go rogue and it's stated to already have happened multiple times before.
In all seriousness her going rogue didn't have that much impact on the situation, all it did was opening the backdoor for Cover to turn the tides in their favor (read, and understand the meaning of the last paragraph from their first statement).
>This makes her not the only victim of the situation, but she keeps playing it like she's the only victim. I am not disregarding her mental illness, I am just pissed she didn't do anything about it to make herself better, even something as small as shutting the fuck up about past grudges on fucking Christmas. Her mental illness doesn't excuse every single shitty thing she did. If the fallen angel question was truly asking about her termination, she could've played dumb and given a dumb answer or ignored them; or filter the question before the Q&A starts.
Of course she isn't the only victim but she is by far the one who suffered the most and people like to ignore that. You're also ignoring the very first part of that screencap 'engulfed by darkness'. She's being vague about it, but that is nothing new, she's clearly owning up to her faults. I can't quite believe that you aren't disregarding her mental illnesses. We know she wanted to take time off to grief for her cat and take care of her mental health but wasn't allowed to. Sure, mental illnesses aren't an excuse for everything but an excuse is not what it is. It's a reason for her behaviour and actions. It doesn't void you off all responsibilities but you should be judged for it with that taken in to account, and to be fair, people are not doing that at all. You aren't either. It's easy for you to say that she should just ignore or play dumb but that can be impossible for her due to her mental illnesses.

>I don't hate Rushia. I loved her. It was just a few days ago that I watched a clip of her 3D live singing Secret Base with Shion and wished she never left. I want to watch Rushia for her cute voice, death-metal screams, songs, games and kindness; without her still being salty over what happened at Hololive. Even if you're right on everything, these menhera acts are becoming too much for me. Until she improves, until she lets go of the past, I can't continue watching her.
That's fair, the mental health issues of others can affect you greatly and you don't have to deal with that. Because she is feeling miserable doesn't mean that you have to and in that case you should quit watching her for the time being at least. In that case, you should let go too and not take every bait thread as opportunity to throw shit at her.

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>>39665945
I am not throwing shit for the sake of throwing shit. I was actually thinking of making my own thread with that screencap (it's mine btw), but chose to vent here instead. I don't care about the OP and whatever he's on and whatever the antis are talking about. It's been yab after yab (rrat or not) with Rushia. I've been trying to watch her on and off; I've tried watching other chuubas to replace her but I still went back to her; but this is my limit, and someone has to know the grievance that broke my limit and I chose /vt/ and this thread. Simple as.

>> No.39666411

>>39666198
I understand, but you should take your own advice and let go. I can't stop you but why vent publicly? Why not turn to someone in private or actually vent / discuss it with people who could understand you? Because someone has to know about it? Antis and shitposters are mostly what you'd get by posting that here or creating your own thread. Doesn't seem like a reasonable solution. I can only ask you to not incite more unjustified rrats or hatred because that's the result of it, but you do you.

>> No.39667965

>>39666411
Venting and criticizing publicly is what /vt/ is for. Nobody else outside /vt/ that I had turned to even cared about Rushia. I tried talking to them. They don't understand the pain of losing her. The pain of seeing streams where she was happy with other holomems compared to where she is now. The pain of that one Minecraft stream where she said she's lonely playing Minecraft alone. Even if all I get are antis and rrats, I'm more likely to reach someone who could understand /here/. We had a good talk, at least, and you could understand my frustration with her fallen angel reply, even if you think I'm wrong.

>> No.39668129

>>39667965
Why not join one of the public Discord servers?
There's a lot of information about her that can't be said publicly that makes her frustrations more easily understood.
Some of it is reading between the lines, some of it is information only discussed in member's streams. She's still basically being treated like a criminal by a lot of the Japanese despite the fact that she was just fired. She has difficulties getting artwork commissioned because of her reputation. She's relegated almost all of her public interactions wtih people (Kson, Norio, VShojo collabs, the Christmas party that Kson wanted her to go to with Guuara and Unacee, Pikamee and various others) to the Nazuna account because she doesn't want to bother people with her Mikeneko reputation. She hasn't done a single one on one collab on Mikeneko in the 10 months since she was fired
She will have to live with the burden of having been fired for the rest of her life while people still continue to spread lies about her daily just for shits and giggles.

>> No.39668165

>>39667965
>>39668129 (me)
I forgot to mention, but don't you realise that she's one of the few vtubers who weren't able to get their original papa/mama after going indie? She still keeps a good relationship with Yasuyuki, but her situation makes it impossible for him to draw for her, for the moment

>> No.39668548

>>39668129
Oh fuck off I hate Discord. Discord is where idiots go to groom people, control narratives and get Steam cards for raids. If it's something she can't say in public then she shouldn't have pulled out the traitor card in the Christmas stream, but as someone here has said, it's apparently a mental illness and she couldn't help it. If so, then I cannot continue watching her as she is now, yet my grievance should be made known publicly since she said this shit publicly. Even if I get the full context on Rushia, I still feel ruining holiday vibes with such an answer is a bummer move. Whatever other pains she's going through, she has my sympathy, but this menhera act isn't helping her situation. Here's hoping she'll get out of it.

>> No.39668692

>>39668548
>traitor
I think you're misunderstanding something here, anon. You seem to be assuming that this statement refers only to Hololive, or mainly to Hololive/Cover.
There is more information about what she means by this, because the few times she has talked to us about being betrayed, it wasn't in reference to Cover or Hololive at all.

>> No.39668724

>>39668692
> because the few times she has talked to us about being betrayed
I meant, recently. But again, the info is behind a paywall for a good reason.

>> No.39669474

>>39668129
>>39668165
>She will have to live with the burden of having been fired for the rest of her life while people still continue to spread lies about her daily just for shits and giggles.
I don't get why you'd reply to my post but you seem to have misunderstood something or poorly worded your last sentence and I am misunderstanding you. That she was fired isn't what is giving her issues, the rrats and lies that destroyed her reputation are - as you've pointed out. Which is why she is fighting the rrats. She never said anything against the termination itself. That's the difference.

>>39668548
>Oh fuck off I hate Discord. Discord is where idiots go to groom people, control narratives and get Steam cards for raids.
NTA, that's a lot of prejudices and bias against a mere chat app. But there really isn't any other option. Sure, you could also use twitter circles or contact other followers directly.
> If it's something she can't say in public then she shouldn't have pulled out the traitor card in the Christmas stream, but as someone here has said, it's apparently a mental illness and she couldn't help it.
>Even if I get the full context on Rushia, I still feel ruining holiday vibes with such an answer is a bummer move.
I still think, as the other anon pointed out, that you are misunderstanding that part, or rather just seeing what you want/fear to hear to justify your opinion, which seems to have been affected by the rrats.
>If so, then I cannot continue watching her as she is now, yet my grievance should be made known publicly since she said this shit publicly.
Yes, you are free to express yourself, even here, but why do it like this? The way you are doing it just adds fuel to the fire that's been burning her. Ironically, you are condemning her for that.
>Even if I get the full context on Rushia, I still feel ruining holiday vibes with such an answer is a bummer move. Whatever other pains she's going through, she has my sympathy, but this menhera act isn't helping her situation. Here's hoping she'll get out of it.
It was, and it annoyed me too but that's nothing that would make me turn off the stream or heraru over. I mean, assuming you didn't turn off the stream, she moved past that rather quickly and turned to chatting, date-time and apex, things she loves. I prefer the former (that's the twitcasts) but the latter often being one of the few things she can reliably count on to keep herself together and her ptsd in check.
>Whatever other pains she's going through, she has my sympathy, but this menhera act isn't helping her situation. Here's hoping she'll get out of it.
It's not going to vanish over night. She's been making good progress which I'm sure you've noticed, too. It's going to come up here and there but it's understandable if it's too much for you to handle. The mike stream was great, watch that if you feel like it and haven't yet.

>> No.39669951

>>39669474
>That she was fired isn't what is giving her issues,
I suppose I mean moreso that Cover's statement is one of the biggest causes of rrats against her. There were plenty of different ways that the company could have worded that statement that may have reduced the amount of ammo that antis could use against her, but they didn't. And they even doubled down and refused to alter a single word of it despite knowing how much it had inconvenienced her. I know she said that she understood the termination itself but there was no way anyone could possibly be happy at that termination notice

>> No.39670123

>>39669474
>adds fuel to the fire
No it doesn't. If someone takes my screencap and run with it, that's on them. My grievance and criticism are valid, and my subject (Nazuna) being a dogged down menhera who supposedly couldn't help herself does not exclude her from criticism. My post is public and so are your replies, so other anons can read our exchange and decide on how they want to view it. This is better than shuffling the issue into the dark where even if I'm convinced by others to go easy on Nazuna, someone else here with the same opinion as me won't because he wouldn't have seen your replies.

>> No.39670302

>>39670123
The majority of people who post on this board don't argue in good faith. You're essentially trying to find the one or two decent people who will actually try to explain things or have a decent discussion among the 20 or 30 anons who will just show up, call her a mentally ill whore, and go by.
The majority of people on this website do not watch streams, and an even larger amount do not understand Japanese. But that doesn't stop them from spreading rrats or misinfo about vtubers or even attacking them over perceived slights.
Back during the Delutaya incident, Mikeneko stressed to us, twice, that the attacks that she was receiving were from people overseas. Do you really not believe that the fuel for that fire was being stoked by the multiple bait threads that were up 24/7 for those several days?
We've been trying our best to keep an eye on affairs to prevent her from having any additional stress which will result in her having yet another mental breakdown. We are honestly lucky that she still even wants to stream despite everything she's gone through and how badly it has affected her. It's a bit harsh to say, but she's still a broken shell of the girl that she used to be and she's told us as much several times, whether directly or indirectly, about both her mental and physical health. You need to be able to sympathise with her position a bit or else you can't understand why she acts the way she does

>> No.39670368

>>39669951
>I suppose I mean moreso that Cover's statement is one of the biggest causes of rrats against her. There were plenty of different ways that the company could have worded that statement that may have reduced the amount of ammo that antis could use against her, but they didn't.
Yes, you are correct. Cover needed to word it like that to justify the urgent termination and to regain the trust of their fans and their reputation. History is written by the victor, not by the discredited outcast.
> And they even doubled down and refused to alter a single word of it despite knowing how much it had inconvenienced her.
Why would they go back on their word, for what? To be nice? To lose control of the narrative? It was a business decision, and business decisions aren't humane or morally right.

>>39670123
>No it doesn't. If someone takes my screencap and run with it, that's on them. My grievance and criticism are valid, and my subject (Nazuna) being a dogged down menhera who supposedly couldn't help herself does not exclude her from criticism.
Funny that you keep denying any responsibility for actions... see >>39670302

>> No.39670569

>>39670302
Due to how lefty censorship works these days, 4chan is only board that I can trust that would allow my criticism. I'm not going somewhere else only to have their mods remove my post to "protect" the chuubas and shit. I have sympathized with her enough. Beyond her bursts of anger in Hololive, beyond her termination, beyond her lawsuit-against-antis threat, beyond the Delutaya drama etc. I just want to vent.

You're asking discretion from me, on someone who broke discretion multiple times and is excused by mental illness. I didn't do all that shit she did, but as a fandead I have had to suffer too. So I vent.

>>39670368
What do you know, I guess I must have learned it from Rushia.

>> No.39670867

>>39670569
I was suggesting that you take the conversation to the DMs of someone from the Discord servers who could be trusted rather than posting this in the public space.
>her lawsuit-against-antis threat,
This doesn't make much sense. She is suing her antis. We know this because she has told us multiple times.
The entire point of suing antis is that quite a few of them will stop attacking her if they are aware of the fact that they will suffer actual consequences for their actions. The hope is to reduce the amount of hate that she receives so that she is able to concentrate again on doing the things that she actually enjoys, such as streaming with us.
She doesn't even like the whole process of suing others. It's a waste of time and it upsets her when she realises that some of her antis were former fans.
>Delutaya
Again, she was forcibly dragged into that. And yet again, she's the real victim of this because she is the victim of slander, as well as a target for people to attack because they only listened to Delta's highly biased initial statement. Pretty much any action she takes in this case will be turned against her.
>that last sentence
Now you're just being petty. The point is to pick and choose the places to vent so as not to be an inconvenience to her. That's why a lot of the fandead keep connections with each other so that they have a place to speak frankly about their thoughts, and that place isn't a public forum in this shithole of a website. A website that is full of people who were genuinely praying for her to kill herself back in February and were making countless jokes at her expense

>> No.39671085

>>39670569
>Due to how lefty censorship works these days, 4chan is only board that I can trust that would allow my criticism. I'm not going somewhere else only to have their mods remove my post to "protect" the chuubas and shit.
In addition to what >>39670867 already said, such places had been posted in the general.

>> No.39671450

>>39670867
>>39671085
I was gonna type my sixteenth essay as a reply but nah I think I'll stay /here/ and say whatever I want. Have a good one.

>> No.39671886

Rushia paid people to exorcise her antis, her being absolutely batshit was always part of her charm

>> No.39671911

>>39671450
If you prefer to abide /here/ then uphold the etiquette and don't bump shit like this with pointless replies, else you are going to be taken as a drama-mongering tourist. Or worse as an insufferable hanten. Good day.

>> No.39671921

>>39671450
Don't expect people to be compassionate to you or your feelings if you begin to act in a way that inconveniences her.
We've given you multiple, better options as to how to sort this out, so if you deliberately ignore this advice and lash out against her, I won't sympathize with you in the least
She, herself, is too kind to actually get annoyed about this sort of thing

>> No.39672696

>>39608291
Kid just rages for a while.

>> No.39673262

Can't believe this bullshit thread is still going

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>>39673262
>bumps it

>> No.39673414

>>39673262
Stop bumping you fucking schizo

>> No.39675145

>>39608291
aw ok

>> No.39676352

>>39608291
> FLICKING THAT SILENT MODE SWITCH WOULD'VE CHANGED FUCKING EVERYTHING
And this, fellow anons, is called Chaos Theory.

>> No.39678406

>people keep unironically arguing over Anon’s drunken xmas rant
Amazing thread! Bump

>> No.39680605

>>39608291
Who's Rushia?

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