This is a Retarded take.

[Anonymous No.]

The thing is, HoloEN's rarely ever stream so I don't know why you need a break. I swear these girls go on like a 5 day break after a 3 hour stream. The only ones that actually stream are Bae, Fauna, Brapper, Kiara and maybe Irys.

[Anonymous No.]

>literal who
>twitter screenshot
niggerfaggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
>livers
Nijinigger so opinion discarted

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
The difference is the NijiEN puts consistent work and even overwork so their breaks always feel justified.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39495080
Holoseethe

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>>39494811
>claims the take to be retarded
>proceeds confirm the take

OP continues to be a retarded faggot

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>>39494811
When was the last time Gura had a consistent schedule before Cover just having to put out an indefinitive hiatus announcement
Then you had Sana with "health reasons" before her and she just quietly graduated
Ina fucked off too for "health reasons", and could have come back atleast a month ago already but instead she is basically doing parkour in japan right now with Sana

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>>39494811
Imagine shutting your pants and making a thread over a meme

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
who is he quoting?

[Anonymous No.]

Fans do own their streamer. They are nothing without our dollars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
This is a bad take. The reason its not the same for Nijisanji is because they have so many people you can always watch someone else. There will always be someone on at all times for you to watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>twitter shitter with 3k followers
who the fuck cares, seriously
we already know nijifans are huge tribal fags and will use any excuse to shit on Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

Why did you make a thread on /vt/ to reply to a twitter poster that won't see it instead of just replying on twitter?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
>NijisanjiEN: I'm going on break for a month for my mental health and well-being. I am burnt out and need a break. I'll make update tweets from time to time though. Is that cool?
NijiEN fans: Of course. We wish you well.

>HoloEN: tummy hort bye *takes 3 months off*

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>>39494811
Why are Twitter screenshot threads even allowed? Anyone caught posting them should be instantly gunned down

[Anonymous No.]

Remember when you got banned for making threads like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
For Holo EN being mad is justified since they never fucking stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>39495530
Hades from Hercules.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
go back and fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>39496197
EXACTLY BRO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39496431
Stop samefagging bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>39496063
Because you know how Twitter is, as soon as you have a comment that's seen as negative, 50 tards are gonna attack you for it and I don't need my notifications to be blown up cause they can't handle a simple logical opinion. You guys can are smart enough to know that, or you'll atleast call me a retard and give me your input and then everyone continues with they're day.

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>>39496567
you should be made example of for making such threads

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>>39496472
Sorry. My bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39496615
Yeah fair enough, in hindsight this thread was kinda stupid to make.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
why are twitter users so sterile and dickless

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
That is pretty funny however very wrong.

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>>39494811
I'm not against them taking breaks and recovering their mental health. But when they do this 10 times per year and happens to all of them at the same times i'm starting to be suspicious.
It's not like they do that many streams whenever they're not in a break.

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>>39494811
I mean, where's the lie?

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>>39496197
this, the girl NEEDS to actually explain and justify this shit instead of make up some clear bullshit excuse. there are only so many gullible naive people in the world, and sooner or later someone will slap some sense into them and go "why are you giving this person money to literally sit there for months and give you nothing back in return. you think she appreciates it? you think she remembers you? she very very clearly doesn't - and doesn't."

the annoying thing is ina started off on the right foot IMO declaring it in advance at least unlike gura just dropping off the face of the earth without warning. but then ina thoroughly died as a presence for 2 months when it takes a fucking fraction of a second to tap a like on twitter for some art to at least -attempt- to convey she still remembers and cares about hololive, her fans etc. if she crystal-clear doesn't care about any of this why in god's name of fuck should I care about her in return?

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>>39494811
Hololive fans: *being angelic as always*
Nijisanji fans: Nooo I hate Hololive and their fans!
fixed the tweet

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>>39497877
Why do they need to explain the reason to you? They aren't your GF, they don't own you anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39495154
>9 hours of freaking Ark
Holy crap. I supposed I can understand how she developed some sorts of mental illness from that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
Stop shilling your own tweet here my guy you yourself ditched the the boat in 2021 the moment you can't grift off the chuubas no more because the normies in the Hololive bubble left or stopped caring about you

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
Nijisanji Live Orgy deflection thread?

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>>39498395
if they want our undivided attention/respect/views/SCs, they do in fact owe treating us better than 6 year olds still believing in the tummyhorts santa.

fucking especially positively after sana outright said she actually was perfectly healthy after quitting. that absolutely validated our worst assumptions that they're bullshitting us through and through. they can bullshit us but they really shouldn't expect us to respect them for it when we can clearly tell. would you like someone lying to your face over and over and expecting you to keep giving them your time and possibly money for it? have standards man.

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>US VS THEMUS VS THEMUS VS THEM

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>>39498395
Because if they don't care, then why should the fans care?

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>>39494811
>Yugo goes on break for mental health
>gets fired
>twitter faggot ignores this because he never watched Yugo

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>>39498622
>if they want our undivided attention/respect/views/SCs
The reality is that they don't, and even then they'll still get them because most people do not care what the schizos in this site thinks. Even ones like Ina actively discourage people from superchatting her because she only treats this like a hobby.

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>>39495544
This would be a good argument if YT and COVER or any other employers they might have weren't paying them but since that's not the case...

[Anonymous No.]

>>39498622
>>39498991
They don't want your cum-stained incel money and they're trying their hardest to make you creeps stop following them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39498595 (OP)
Nah, orgy defo happened, I'm disappointed in Finana, but can't say I'm surprised.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39498576
I'm not even gonna bother trying to convince you that I'm not Biff

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>>39499032
what is this retarded fucking deflection that is, in actuality, literally saying only 4chan is capable of critical thinking of this subject? that's actually a massive compliment and only makes the other crowds look like children. the other people need to think about what they're doing here more, not less.

notice how gura started to get absolutely destroyed in the comments even on youtube reading pretty much verbatim like /here/ talk for the constant nonstop ditching and the 2 streams a month bullshit. everyone has a limit. if nobody had said anything we probably would still be in this ambiguous bullshit state where gura says/does absolutely nothing at all and people literally think she's dead. same goes for ina and the 2 months of ghosting and suddenly catching up in a rambling member's post. only when people really started to turn up the heat on her /here/ did she spring back to life - for the first month, people were mostly chill with it because it was kind of as we expected her to be generally-gone, but as time grew longer takos once again started to rrat that she was in fact at death's door and such.

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>>39499058
Cover salary is a pittance, Kanata said what it is a while back and at least for HoloJPs it's equivalent to like $200 a month. IIRC Aki said that for girls who get the worst SC revenue there is functionally a tip jar for the rest of the company to contribute to and this gets given to the worst performer in compensation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
literally who is this gaylord

[Anonymous No.]

>>39499081
>keeping in touch with your fans is incel pandering
lol

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>>39494811

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
Nijisanji fans: To the Dickscord, there is falseflagging to do!

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
>we want you to be happy and keep cucking us

[Anonymous No.]

>>39499081
>having ANY standard for a vtuber even on a basic level like you would an actual human being makes you an incel

No, it doesn't, it makes them fucking actual men who aren't completely fucking mush-brained losing all critical thinking functions on seeing an anime girl. You should learn from them. We would all have better content if you did. You already by default don't go around giving money and buying infinite excuses to strangers you don't know if they are not vtubers. You already think about this logically for the rest of the 99.9999% of the planet. So why are you deviating from it for vtubers then? Parasocial connection? You're giving them money to do nothing and viciously defending this complete illogic? Who is the incel again?

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>>39499343
>notice how gura started to get absolutely destroyed in the comments even on youtube reading pretty much verbatim like /here/ talk for the constant nonstop ditching and the 2 streams a month bullshit
Those things are just a drop in the bucket compared to people outside this place that will not give a shit. Even then they're mostly posters from /here/.

>only when people really started to turn up the heat on her /here/ did she spring back to life
That's just an attempt to force the narratives people made here. Whatever you choose to believe, this place has very little influence to these girls.

[Anonymous No.]

Of course you post the guy that tried to make himself a personality during the early days of Myth and especially Lazulight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39499081
>acts like an incel
>calls people incel
Many such cases

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
he used to be a chumbud

[Anonymous No.]

>>39499081
Hi Ina

[Anonymous No.]

Breaks are fine but the only ones who are transparent on what exactly they're doing is Kiara, Mori, Bae and sometimes Irys and Ame. (Ame has frequent membership posts but she's a bit hush hush lately). Fauna doesn't tell you what she does but at least her breaks are very short so you don't even notice them if you're not a sapling.
Coincidentally, all I've mentioned above are ENs of various red-adjacent colors. Blue ENs on the afterhand never communicate.

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>>39501260
Fauna is a bit descriptive but not in huge detail (cat died, she's doing holiday stuff with family etc) which is kind of in between and IMO fine-enough as long as it's not fronting a like 2 month absence.

It's only not an issue because she just isn't away for long generally, these exact same reasonings would get people thinking it's bullshit if it went for a long time, this is exactly why the Sana Doggied Arc went so fucking south. If she was gone for like a week or something it wouldn't have been much a thing. Even if the return streams from that was like 1-2 streams a week for a month it still would have been a footnote of "she was there, just light in streams" like Kronii was.

It's total dead-seeming long absences that really sour people. The thing is how they handle it, Miko was gone for like 3+ months but was celebrated on her return and not hated. Why? She talked a ton on twitter the whole time, even had a couple unstreamed cameos in Minecraft etc. She was absent but not functionally-dead. It's when you're just dead as a character that peoples' eyebrows are raised. Holo in specific sells this image that the girls are a big happy family, it's supposed to be a shiny smiley story if you will. So when someone just drops out and doesn't give a shit that hurts the entire brand really.

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>>39498395
>why does the waitress need to explain why my burger hasn't arrived? they aren't your girlfriend
How retarded are you man? Paying customers have a right to be upset if they don't receive the product.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39498622
>watching vtumors
>having standards
lol lmao even, its twitch thots with png slapped into their face

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
yeah no shit some random retard on twitter has a retarded take

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>39495080
Rent free

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
They're not wrong, hololive fas that by donating a dollar to you, an optional act purely done of their own free will, then they're "owed" something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
The fact that people keep agreeing with guys like this is why hololive is stagnating, the girls could streams 2 times every 3 months and they would say it's okay just to not sound like a crazy fan, also nijis in general just stream more no wonder people are always okay with breaks

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
>nijifan being a tribalistic cunts and a retard
color me surprised

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
Alouↄucks deflection thread, as usual. Your fault for supporting super whores, don't try to blame Hololive because of your disgusting talents.
Plus, there's Yugo situation >>39499028

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>>39503707
>pay for members-only content
>quantity of content in general drops off dramatically
>ghosts fans constantly
>hardly any members-only content, or content in general even before indefinite hiatus
>she doesn't owe you anything, reeeeeeeee!
>cancel membership
ok

[Anonymous No.]

why are you guys so fucking weird? you act like weirdly super entitled customers or even as if you were their bosses, whenever they don't specify down to the second anything they're doing, they apparently don't care about you and are betraying you and "misbehaving" etc. etc. or whatever situation you love to run your wild thoughts into, it's never that deep, they're taking breaks from spending hours sitting at the computer just like any office work, added the fact that they have to talk during those long hours while also having to be entertaining, of course shit takes a toll in your health, and when they come back they'll just explain what happened and everything's fixed! that's it! but NOO you like to keep torturing yourselves, being on edge expecting retribution for something they did "wrong" and complaining all day in this godforsaken board
seriously, don't you have anything better to do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39504637
>>39503751
If you really are just dropping memberships and shit and believe hololive is stagnating then why do you care? just move on to different streamers retards and stop shitting up the catalog like OP

[Anonymous No.]

>>39504854
>don't you have anything better to do?
Yeah, watch other vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39504854
It is not particularly weird nor entitled to expect people to be a more honest instead of taking multi-month absences with terrible excuses (if any!) all while continuing to grift people out of their money. Surprisingly enough people look at that negatively. If you think otherwise you are legitimately an easy mark. You also can't really say you care about vtubing if you don't get upset about very high profile participants pulling this shit over and over and over again

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>>39494811
>The only ones that actually stream are Bae, Fauna, Brapper, Kiara and maybe Irys.
Anon. The top 3 ENs that have streamed the most in the past year have been Kiara, Mori and Ame. I believe IRyS does have some of the highest streaming hours in EN though (to be expected with frequently long superchat readings). Fauna doesn't stream more than Bae.

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>>39498395
it's called responsibility you dumbass, They have a responsibility to keep their fans that are potentially in the millions to be informed with things like this. so much for "thank for your support! i love you!" if a simple things like communication or being transparent cant be developed between the entertainer and fans. they dont even have to say everything about their personal life, just being vague and saying the gist of why you need to take a break is fine. because if they dont, then that's potentially a million people being sick and worried, who knows what little mistake these people can cause that can cascade to the ultimate downfall of society all because their oshi just disappeared for 3 weeks without a single hint.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39504854
>I hate this place so I'm going to browse the threads and piss and moan about how retarded everyone here is
Seek help

[Anonymous No.]

>Biffposting
What the fuck did I travel back to 2021?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39504854
I’m all for vtubers prioritizing their health and taking breaks when they need to. But it’s how they handle it which is the main issue.
Fauna handles it well, she gives her reason and while she is absent somewhat, she at least gives some updates on Twitter, she’s never gone for long and the reasons are all understandable. Kiara was sick but she was always on Twitter and even posted an update vid at least saying why she’d wouldn’t be able to stream. Kanata also did something similar by posting short updates on when her throat/voice condition.
It’s when you go the long bouts of silence route that it can very easily go wrong. Miko had a long absence but she would upload clip compilations and was giving frequent updates on Twitter that she got a huge welcome on her return. Ina’s reason for vanishing is silly, but at least she’s now back and it’s something compared to the long silences that Sana and now Gura went through. It shouldn’t need to feel like pulling teeth just to get a few update tweets wondering if they’re okay or what is even going on.

[Anonymous No.]

>HoloEN
My boyfriend loves streaming :(

[Anonymous No.]

>>39495026
>literal who
Nah, he's a notorious creep in the community, famous for getting BTFO'd by Amelia, Creeped on Finana, got ignored and now sniffing around Elira.
>>39499394
>Kanata said what it is a while back and at least for HoloJPs it's equivalent to like $200 a month
>CoL in non tourist Japan is as low as 300-400/month.
My nigga, with the salary+merch sales+crossover revenue they make bank. That's JUST from outside of streaming. Also keep in mind many of them have other jobs like Korone since JP treat vtubing as a side thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39507375
I don't really know if these are all comparable situations here, for example maybe yes if we're talking about the most recent Gura absences but the previous ones did have updates via members posts, the main reason why she doesn't seem to want to update for this one is because of a health reason she seriously doesn't want to get into, not even in a members stream. And funny enough when she did started posting stuff on twitter like the sloth shit or the burger people just assumed it was her manager or something

Sana's initial absence did get a reason, it was the latter ones that people just filled in the blanks and may or may not have been wrong, but even despite this one has to take in account what the situation could be and why they may not be the type to talk about it on twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39495080
Kys holobrony

[Anonymous No.]

>>39502802
>>39504637
It's a donation, you didn't pay for shit. Like, you donated to some kind of charity and you're supposed to get a keychain but they ran out of the keychain to give you, in that case you have no right to demand anything, vtuber is like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39504854
These people are faggots, anon. Everyone who spends more than a few minutes on this site is a whiny, maladjusted little faggot who can't hack it in the real world and so spends all their time bitching about make believe bullshit with people they'll never actually meet face to face, blissfully free of anything like personal accountability or growth. Leave while you still have the option, before you become one of us. This is no place for normalfags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
When nijis get sick do they call it liver failure?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
Nigga, who even is this

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>39507791
>>39507595

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
>The only ones that actually stream are Bae, Fauna, Brapper, Kiara and maybe Irys
Mori, Mumei(before break), Ame(after break) literally streamed Op, how tf can't you not understand this?

>The thing is, HoloEN's rarely ever stream so I don't know why you need a break
Getting burned out? you literally have 0 clue on how they do things behind the scenes and only look at the streaming time.
NijiEn have like 30 people, and some living and breathing streaming as part of their lives, not everyone is like that.

I really don't know how the fuck you anons can't understand this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39509069
>holopagpag
as expected

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
The longest break in NijiEN was Nina if I'm not mistaken and it was almost 2 months. That break cost her the position of most subscribed female member after leeching luxiem.
Meanwhile, holosimps just believe that a common illness takes 3 months to heal lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>39509815
>a common illness takes 3 months to heal lmao
Some infections stay in your system and reinfects you for awhile. There's no such thing as a "common illness" now especially post Rona because "common illnesses" had to evolve to overtake it which is why RSV and the Flu are destroying people this year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39498395
Because I pay them when I subscribe to their channel and give them SuperChats. When I give money I expect something and not vague platitudes

[Anonymous No.]

>>39495337
How do we know that Sana chose to quit? I am taking the Cover statement with a grain of salt and this year in holoEN we had:

1. Sana with several radio silent breaks in the months before her sudden graduation. Kronii and other members kept saying that they had to rush projects for her graduation which is something that usually happens when you don't have much time to prepare for it.
2. Ina having multiple breaks followed by an indefinite hiatus for health reasons where she was radio silent for over 2 months. The official story is that Ina was sick for several weeks, made a single retweet on her twitter account, and forgot her work phone for over a month.
3. Gura saying that management can retweet on their hololive accounts between multiple radio silent breaks leading up to an indefinite hiatus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
Just watch Kaela

[Anonymous No.]

>>39495080
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>39497877
Even if Ina had no communications afterward I saw little to no shitposting about it because she did give a heads up and say it would be an indefinite hiatus. It's literally only Gura, and whatever she has is probably pretty bad too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39501490
Miko was also Tweeting from her hospital bed nearly every day of those 3 months. It's a huge reason why nobody had any issues with her absence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39498475
I played 18 hours of Ark for a month straight when the new map came out recently. That's 500 hours in less than a month btw. Of Ark.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39503707
No, they're providing financial incentives for the chuubas to stream more or at a minimum improve their communication. Almost, any other business would've gone under by now, if they routinely ignored their customers like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39512294
this is a pretty bad rrat, lets not even try to imply that Sana wanted to stay in hololive and was 'fired'

[Anonymous No.]

>>39495080
Holobased

[Anonymous No.]

Isn't it normal for people to start losing goodwill for a vtuber when they take a large amount of time off with barely any communication? I'm having issues understanding why this is controversial or strange. I would probably say this topic is bullshit if it hasn't been proven time and time again that SOME of the HoloEN girls take plenty of time off without coming back to have a steady streaming schedule. Others can hardly do the bare minimum of even communicating.

This is probably less of a big deal if you're some type of indie streamer, but when you're part of such a large company I think it helps keeps fans satiated when you're communicating regularly. Like >>39512722 said, nobody gives Miko shit for being off for three months because she clearly gave a fuck. There were no oddly written tweets or some fucking random shill tweets with nothing else going on with her account, it was all staying in contact with other Hololive members and the fans themselves.

The reason why the comparison between the two companies is even happening is probably because NijiEN fucking streams significantly more. That's all it is. Fans don't give a fuck or get emotional if they take a break because the streamers themselves earned that trust inherently by simply doing their jobs. That's why it even got brought up in the first place. I don't think you can use the excuse that the HoloEN girls are working on background projects and that's why they're not streaming, because people like Kiara and Mori ALWAYS have shit going on and they still take the time to stream. It only takes a few people in the group barely doing shit to make the whole branch look bad.

I don't even know why I typed this gay ass shit out, I have groceries to buy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
This guy's a NijiEN simp. These people love being stepped on and treated like shit, they accept whatever their vtubers say word for word and have an extreme "don't question, don't argue, don't disagree, don't dislike" group think mindset.

The notion of someone actually being cynical of a vtuber's statements and having an objection over their choices is a sort of sin for them.

Hololive fans might be in abusive relationships with their vtubers but at least some of them don't take the beating without complaining and ask for more.
They should really just consider small corpos tho. Those girls are more dedicated and hard working. But if they wanna be stuck to whatever Cover hires it's their loss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39513269
As much as a Holofag as I am I can admit that our bitches are lazy as fuck, good hires with 0 chemestry and yes i'm blaming Mori ''ALL IDOLS ARE FAKE YOU ARE ALL A STEP ON MY MUSIC CAREER'' Calliope for this shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39513018
She liked having access to the other girls, so far that reason alone she wanted to stay. However, management probably asked her to hit some basic minimums. For instance: improve your non-existent communication, do a member stream more than once every 6 months, try to hit 12 streams on your channel for the year. And, those were probably still too oppressive for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39495080
Based.
Nijitrash are easily spotted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39513514
Cover doesn't seem to have a issue with holo members who don't do streaming full time, to be honest the biggest hole in the rrat posted above is the fact that Gura and Ina don't even have the lowest streaming count in Hololive, I can absolutely believe however that Sana decided to just leave after her manager suggested for her to stream more instead of doing her second job or whatever the fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39499028
People watched Yugo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39513269
Then drop them and find someone else.

[Anonymous No.]

>uncle b*ff
I remember when he was a regular in Ame's chat but since Ame doesn't play favorites, he jumped to Nijisanji (Finana specifically) the nanosecond he got attention there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39514194
now he begs his followers for money and donates it to vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>39495080
SPBP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39498395
This type of mentality is something a 14 year old who thinks he's more intelligent than everyone else would come up with

[Anonymous No.]

>>39512778
I got 3k 1 month of getting into ark

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
>Uncle fucking Biff
Oh shit I forgot about this guy, he’s an infamous groomer. He was all over Hololive until Amelia told him to go fuck himself, he went to Nijisanji because they will give him attention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39514194
Does he still try to groom Finana or did he give up after the Valoguards got to it first?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39512201
Then stop paying them dumbass. Pay them when they stream, and don't if they don't keep up with communication or content, like any other service. They don't owe you anything, like you don't owe them anything. I get it, it sucks, but they have their reason, be it good or bad. However it's their lives and their reason, I respect that. If they dissapere I just stop paying, instead of shitting this place up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39513419
How the fuck is this Mori's fault? She fucking streams on top of her music projects. You can call her fat, or you can call her music bad, but you can't call her lazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494811
Mori used to pretend she had 3 jobs until 2021 to not stream.
After the boyfriend kicked her ass, she decided to stream more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39499580
>You're giving them money
NTA but no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39502802
>paying customers
>>>>>>>>>>

[Anonymous No.]

>>39507595
>CoL in non tourist Japan is as low as 300-400/month.
Including housing? The fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39507669
I view it more like a tip.
If they are entertaining me I'll give them money.
If they are not then I don't.
Pretty simple. No streams == no money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39498622
>sana outright said she actually was perfectly healthy
She also said that gossip could be dangerous to her career, so it's more likely that she said what contractors want to hear. They want somebody who can do the work they want WHEN they want it. They're not going to hire somebody when there's comments from her fanbase acting like she has Super Spine Cancer and could drop dead at any moment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39495080
Based holochad

[Anonymous No.]

>>39507595
>>39517938
Cost of living in Japan outside of Tokyo/Osaka is comparable to Poland, so about half of same cost in the States, but not as cheap as that anon says.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39498475
Ark is very fun if you're into it and have a decent PC. That game can be as addictive as crack.

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>>39499028
Yugo got fired because she was a walking disaster that kept on delivering distress. She was disrespectful towards management and her superiors, and was absolute cunt towards other people. Good riddance.

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>>39494811
kek looks like the tranny deleted it already

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>>39516432
He gave up on Finana ages ago, he moved onto Elira and tries to wiggle in on every new girl that debuts but they ignore him.
>>39518984
>Yugo got fired because
Of stuff outside of streaming activities, as the statement said.

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>>39518984
>>39522563
It was drugs

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>>39494811
>call the take retarded
>proceeds to act as the hades pic

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>>39513869
Cover doesn't have an issue with Holo members who don't stream full time IF they've already paid their dues, done their part, and are essentially fully-tenured Hololive members.
Ina and Gura both qualify. Ayame and Aqua qualify obviously. Sana absolutely did not. She hadn't earned her stripes by any possible definition, she was already starting to go full Ayame a few months into the job, which should be her most hyper and active period of work in her entire career.

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>>39509815
>it was almost 2 months. That break cost her the position of most subscribed female member after leeching luxiem.
it wasn't supposed to be even a month
but she got memevirus on her return to Australia cause the blonde manchild can't travel alone
thus forced into a quarantine hotel room for over a month

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>>39495154
How are her Ark streams?

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>>39523316
one thing is having old member that generate money just for existing like Ayame
another is Sana that was only more popular than Anya

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As much as I hate Nijifags, they at least actually stream consistently. Holo bronies hardly stream aside from the few who actually do grind like Koyori and Reine

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>>39518984
Interesting
How come the rest of nijien is still around?

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>>39495154
Streaming Ark huh. Might have to check her out

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>>39523238
I don't even watch hololive much, mostly just Gura and Ina occasionally.

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>NijiEN
>Most if not all stream every day
>Insane lunatics like scarle will stream 7 times a week, sometimes 2 to 3 times a night, possibly 4 if theyre a guest in a collab
>Are completely open as to why they take breaks and usually keep their fans up to date, sometimes they'll even pop in on a stream just as "yea Im alive" sort of thing.

Vs

>Holo EN
>Council(using them as a primary example since they're just a year old) took more breaks in their first year than myth ever did
>Certain talents in both myth and council just drop off the face of the earth, not a peep as to why they are gone
>Myth showing obvious signs of burn-out outside of Kiara
To be honest, I kind of get the ire from the Holo side, I dont think any sensible person is against someone taking a break, they're against the girls taking constant breaks and the endless ghosting.

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>>39527033
Meanwhile major difference is:
>Nijien takes extended breaks, they lose money and even suggest people unsub/unmember/watch active
vs
>Holoen takes break, they ghost, people still dump their bank account on the missing members.
It's no secret why Holoen keeps doing this.

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>>39494811
lol

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>>39494811
ogey

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>>39527033
Say what you will about NijiEN being cutthroat and all, but needing to stream just to put food on the table and pay rent really does motivate them to stream often and for long hours.

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>>39532787
The vtuber paradox. The better the do less motivation they have to do well.
HoloEN was literally victim of its own success.

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>>39494811
Are you mad because it calls you out in particular, OP?

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>>39494811
>twitter screencap
I don't even have to read it to know its retarded, stop posting this shit here.

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>>39532787
Let's be real, the vtubers in HoloEN and NijiEN are making very good money for first world countries relative to the time and effort invested, even the smaller ones.

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>>39495080
spbp

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>>39523389
Pretty good, lots of desk breaking
Also nice small interactions with JP since they're all on the same server

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>>39533631
>interactions with JP
This early and she's already running from EN.

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>>39518173
holy cope

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>>39494811
HoloEN counts on guys like this to get guaranteed paychecks even when they do fucking nothing for months on end. The brand carries them. The entire fucking reason as to why girls wanna join hololive specifically is to do minimum work but gain full profit from it as if they did put in work. And fags like this guy facilitate that even further by encouraging them to not do anything and still get paid. It's like an e-girl except they don't have to be slutty or anything, they just have to be in hololive and it's guaranteed profit.

Everyone gave that Trash Taste guy connor so much shit for what he said, but time proved him right. You don't have to try or even be entertaining when you're in hololive.

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>>39533678
ogey

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>>39495080
Why do they call them livers? Do they assume they're alcoholics?

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>>39511806
>"common illnesses" had to evolve to overtake it which is why RSV and the Flu are destroying people this year
Very convoluted cope for vaxxie immune disorder.

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>>39495154
>having a burnout after couple of months debut vs 2 years of streaming and take a break.

Retarded take. Niji only have stream, there nothing else to do except stream.

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>>39497877
Why you larping as holofag, gtfo nijicuck.

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>>39497091
The last time they going radio silent, they suprise with offcollab.

You dont need to be schizo like nijicuck and demand their whereabout 24/7.

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Oh I remember this dude. He used to be a massive Ame fan and would make """"memes"""" if you can call them that, about every stream. But he had a huge meltdown because she wouldn't acknowledge his posts or retweet him. Moved to Niji shortly after lazulight's debut because one of them retweeted one of his posts. Super pathetic dude, very annoying personality.

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>Tummy hurt
>Covid
>Covid
>Tummy hurt
>Tummy Hurt
>Covid
>~*Mysterious Ailment*~
>Covid
I'm shocked that they haven't broken out Monkeypox or just claim some chronic illness at this point. Just take a page from ironmouse's book. It's honestly tiring how recycled the excuses are.