/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

The absolute state of Vtubing

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>>39491777
If you’re pushed out everywhere, maybe you’re just a weirdo

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>>39491846
Go back

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>>39491777
More like the actual state of /vt/

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>>39491846
Thanks for confirming OP's pic, now go back.

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>>39491777
i dont think you understand how vtubing works

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>>39491887
Make me bitch.

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>>39491777
>cant call the faggots out because "you're a schizo" and "vtubing was always about us"

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>>39491846
You are a loser.

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As long as Gura and JP survives, our the unicorn way won't be pushed out.

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>>39491777
That's was basically vtubing before Hololive.
Before, it was a niche with here and there between JP and Twitch niches, vtubers were like any other streamer, then Holoshit came with a horde of retards, and their 3rd worlders and their anti garbage, and their drama garbage, and their shit flinging to any vtuber that isn't Hololive-like...
God I hate Holoshit so much.

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>>39493318
kys
no fanbase is more toxic than nijiniggers and what they did to miko and marine

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>>39493318
its true, no surprise to anyone why they are called holobronies in the first place

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>>39491777
I agree, brotuber beggars are annoying.

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>>39493318
Only 2019 and 2020 niggers will disagree with you. Although it's not really Hololive's fault, or really Holo"""fans""", it could've been under the banner of any corpo. The problem was just a profound amount of retards becoming clipniggers overnight and having fun with their new toy in whatever limited means they had due to the language filter, namely shitposting and starting a console war since a lot of them came from boards like /v/. It was impossible for them to try to fit in when they became the new majority of posters (literally colonizing /jp/) in just over a month.

In fact the only thing I think vtuber oldfags and newfags can agree on is that chink fans were a mistake. For oldfags it's because they took over everyone's Youtube algo with their clips and obliterating the niche, and for newfags they're responsible for their first "happening".

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>>39493318
Nijisanji fans basically made a name for themselves being the most cancerous antis against Hololive ever since 2019 for no reason other than they draw in the worst kind of human detritus into their fanbase so I dunno what the fuck you're talking about

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>>39491777
The reason I got into really liking Vtubers from the days of Kizuna AI was the I could enjoy all the positives of idols without having to feel guilty about how poorly the girls are treated and how they have no privacy, and vtuber gave the perfect barrier of protecting a talents privacy and personal freedom, I really dislike how common knowledge apparent any vtuber's roommates are with these new ones whether it be attention hungry newfag chuubas or obsessive schizos damages my hope for this thing, especially here where every one holds 0 separation between vtuber and roommate and obsessively demands that their personal lives are strictly control which feels like the idol crowd I runaway from immediately chased down the new space I found for myself, but anyway I'm probably being a little dramatic as I'm sure most people here only really care about the actual content more than whatever is happening behind the curtain

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>>39493318
As someone who has been around since kizuna ai days you are delusional. Vtubing right before hololive got big had been dying out. Hololive was like a breath of fresh air and revitalized the industry.

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*cough* *cough*

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>>39493603
From what I see, there is no more toxic fanbase than Hololive, and this cesspit is the biggest exponent of it.
I have never seen so much hate for other vtubers, than from Hololive fans here.
Holoniggers unprovocatedly trash talk Vshojo for being slut vtubers despite Twitch is the slut platform.
Holoniggers trash talk Nijisanji for having males.
Holoniggers even cannibalize each other since Tempus came to be and the likes of Mori and even Kiara.

You can spam for being majority here, but Holoniggers are by far the worst, most hateful, narcissist, elitist toxic and putrid vtuber fanbase.

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>>39493749
Much like Gundam SEED revitalized the franchise after Turn-A Gundam.led to its decline.

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>>39494773
Literally 90% of the "yabs" that have occurred in Hololives history are directly caused by Nijiniggers stirring up trouble by lying, like them reporting Mio to Capcom or telling that retarded doujin artist they laughed at his porn

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>>39494841
It's as if someone has assigned Hololive as "le ebil empire" that anons have to topple or so they say.

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>>39491846
You're retarded.

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>another thread where nijinigger are larping as victims

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>>39495048
again I allude to >>39494897

Someone is clearly trying to paint hololive as this "Cult-like" entity

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>>39491777
welcome to the hololive board, you do not fit in here

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>>39494773
>but Holoniggers are by far the worst, most hateful, narcissist, elitist toxic and putrid vtuber fanbase.
You weren't here when Niji was at the top, fag.

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>>39491777
>nijiniggers kick holofags out of /jp/vyt/
>they make their own bread, soon becoming /vt/
>nijiniggers mad when they get bullied in /vt/
>nijiniggers discord raid everyday to try and make themselves feel a little bit better
pathetic desu

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>>39491846
>FUCKING DORKS WITH THEIR DND
>AHAHAHA LOSER VIRGINS WITH THEIR VIDEO GAMES
>GET A LIFE YOU ANIME WATCHING FAG
>OMIGOD YOU WATCH VTUBERS THAT'S PATHETIC
>...
>What do you mean? I've always been a fan of these things. Now change them, or you're a weirdo gatekeeper YOU FUCKING LOSER VIRGIN WEIRDO FUCK
It's all so tiresome. Why can't the normies just leave us alone?

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>>39494773
Didn't know hololive fans stalk their oshis into graduations, while said oshi then proceeds to reincarnate less than a few months later enjoying life and shittalking her previous work place at every opportunity

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>>39493318
>>39494773
As a former Holobrony, I'm sorry. I've since then branched out to more entertaining chuubas.

still watch a couple though

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>>39494773
Damn, you really struck a chord with the dindus lol

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>>39493318
this is so blatantly wrong on so many levels
The vtubing scene took shape in 2017. Before that there were two vtubers who formulated what we call a vtuber today: Kizuna Ai and Eilene, the latter largely forgotten today.
In 2017 many new successful vtubers appeared: Siro, Baacharu, Antama (later rebranded as Enogu), Mirai Akari (under the Eilene's brand), Noja, and lastly Kaguya Luna. Kizuna, Siro, Mirai Akari, Noja and Luna are now known as Four Heavenly Kings, they basically defined the vtubing subculture as we know it. Absolutely everyone knows that much.
What many people forget for some reason is that it was the Antama duo that pioneered idol vtubers.
That same year, 2017, several underdogs appeared, including rather big budget ones like Fujisaki Yua. One of these underdogs was Tokino Sora. Sora initially focused on long zatsu streams, which was rather uncharacteristic for vtubers of that era and was one of the reasons her career tanked during that era. The vtubing boom itself was still rather small, and vtubers who were spamming short videos overshadowed those who focused on longer (>20 minutes) videos, let alone streams. You could say that clips were always the key to success in this industry.
Other underdogs have also contributed to the evolution of vtubing in one way or another. For example, Tenmakinin pioneered collabs.
In the beginning of 2018 Nijisanji entered the industry and changed everything. Tsukino Mito, Deron and Shizuka Rin focused heavily on vidya and zatsu streams and, unlike Sora, not only found success in this niche but redefined the format of vtubing itself. I'll repeat it once again: streams haven't been the default vtubing format until these three showed up and got successful.
Hololive wasn't a pioneer in anything. One could argue that it wasn't even Hololive that popularized vtubers in the West - it was the Youtube algorithm.

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>>39493318
>hololive fans create their own separate fanbase to enjoy Holo content on their own
>omg hololive pushed out fans of other Vtubers channels, which they never watched or cared for at the first place!
Trannies really think everybody behave and sabotage hobbies like they do huh

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>>39495352
I recently got into D&D through watching chuubas and am now realizing that this version(5e) was made to pull in casuals. I'm in my first campaign and already feeling limitations.

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>>39493318
These people here do not realize that hololive respresent the grey ones.

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>>39494773
I know holotards IRL and they are the most umbearable pieces of trash who dont even seem to like vtubers at all.
I try to talk about subaru or polka, they dont care, I talk about suou patra or 名取さな, I try to talk about the holoIDs like reine, they dont care, I try to talk about ANYTHING, they dont care
they only care about how much mori is ruining holoEN, sometimes they talk about pekora and her monkey, but the second i mention "yeah how was that pekora yakuza stream"? they go silent because of fucking course, they dont watch streams

not only they trash on other fanbases, but they also fail at being good holoive fans themselves because they dont even watch their own fucking branch

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Can’t believe ironlung has been around longer then hololive sora

[Anonymous No.]

>>39496195
look at the fucking catalog, faggot.
it's all cuck shit which originates from the incels at hololive. and dont give me the falseflagger bullshit, hololive is the source.

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>>39496046
You should write this down anon, with sources and all that jazz.
I'd gladly read and share around autistically something like that.
It would be something really valuable for anyone interesed in reaserching the history of the medium in the future too

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>>39494773
Then you haven't seen shit newfag. You don;t even lurk here as you wuld know about the nijinigger falseflags.

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>>39496297
Have you tried not being a SEAnigger?

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>>39496046
I dunno if this a copypasta or some shit but I never thought I'd see a post namedrop Antama on this board
https://files.catbox.moe/25xcfp.mp4

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>>39494773
Replace holo with niji and you are pretty much spot on.

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>>39496476
Nijinogs dindu nuffin. Dey gud bois

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>>39491846
This unironically
Common denominator, etc.

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>>39494773
>From what I see
You are blind, nigger.

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>>39496581
No way. That's the fag who always posts the "I'm an oldfag and you Holofags ruined vtubing" cope? LMAO

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>>39491846
why are femoids like this?

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Reminder that it was specifically Hololive fans that have been kicked from 109 different threads and boards.

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>>39493318
vtubing was never a thing on twitch. kill yourself

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>>39491846
Yes, weirdo AKA someone outside the norm. Yes, we are, but here's the thing: if we are needed to get a hobby going before normalfaggots come in and ruin it, what does that say about them? If we our tastes are so weird, why do normoids keep chasing us about constantly and trying to get into what we're in? They just can't allow somebody to be happy without conforming to the lowest common denominator can they? It's like they have the conform gene. If someone is having non-societally approved fun somewhere, they instantly detect it, invade and try and change it, so that it conforms to society.

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>>39494773
From what I see, there is no more toxic fanbase than Nijisanji, and this cesspit is the biggest exponent of it.
I have never seen so much hate for other vtubers, than from Nijisanji fans here.
Nijiniggers unprovocatedly trash talk Vshojo for being slut vtubers despite Twitch is the slut platform.
Nijiniggers trash talk Hololive for having talent.
Nijiniggers even cannibalize each other since Iluna and Soleil came to be and the likes of Vox and even Mysta.

You can spam for being discordraiders here, but Nijiniggers are by far the worst, most hateful, narcissist, elitist toxic and putrid vtuber fanbase.

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>>39496363
yeah lets act like nijniggers dont shit up the catalog and al the threads
kys

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>>39497098
>>39497133
>>39497018
samefagging holobrony. thanks for proving>>>>39494773

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>>39497133
Hololive has talent?

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>>39491846
Who said im pushed out everywhere? Basic reading comprehension you low IQ monkey.

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>>39497261
Retard.

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>>39497303
Now ask this without crying, nigger.

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What happened to the gray's space between panel 1 and 3 that made them not want to be there anymore?

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HI is this the gatekeeping thread?

Change is scary and makes my pp small

[Anonymous No.]

>>39499439
but enough about you.

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>>39499439
The hormones you are taking are probably responsible for that.

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>>39491846
Fpbp

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MOTD: SISTERS ASSEMBLE! The C.H.U.D.S. must be rallied against: >>39491777 for Rockefeller, and trans rights!

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Gatekeepers are faggots. Kill youself.

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>>39496046
YUA!

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>>39495445
Fa/tg/uy here, nerds haven't been the target audience ever since 3.5 was taken under the shed and shtot

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>>39500479
In the pic the gray ones are those

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>>39500559
Obtuse reading but okay

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>>39500627
They literally kicked the OGs out, twice

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>>39500767
And the comic is a call to action. The point is to keep "weird" spaces unwelcoming to the kind of people who hate lolis or whatever.

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>>39491846
if he's the weirdo, why do you keep infesting his hobbies?

[Anonymous No.]

Average hololive fan

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>>39500860
And my reading is obtuse? The OGs were colonized by cultural imperialists

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>>39500947
average nijisanji fan

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>>39500970
They want it to be one way. You do too. I prefer things the way where there isnt sexism.

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>>39494773
vshojo gets trashtalked because those whores bring in the normalfags that will inevitably ruin the hobby

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>>39501052

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>>39491846
bit antisemite arent you

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>>39491846

They hated him because he spoke the truth

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>>39501199
>gets outwhored by irys, holoid, marine, noel, matsuri
>implying gura doesn’t bring in the most normies
Lol
Lmao even

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>>39497018
>vtubing was never a thing on twitch.
Holobronies trying to rewrite history again

[Anonymous No.]

>>39496276
Join the rest of us in better systems. We have way more cookies than we can eat because way too many people still play 5e.

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>>39491846
110 countries argument doesn't work with internet forums, you're just an invader.

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>>39501320
NTA, I've only played 2E in video games. How is it for actual TTRPGs?

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>>39494841
Lmao do you believe this trash? Jesus what a retard. Yeah it was totally the "Nijiniggers at Capcom" despite Nijisanji also had Capcom stuff on their channels when the game devs went nuclear with copyright strikes.
Keep telling yourself bullshit until you believe, it retard.

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This is basically the Paradox of Tolerance but we're supposed to sympathize with the bad guys society tells to fuck off.

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>>39491846
>pushed out
They were invaded by colonists

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>>39494773
Nigger what?! You couldn't be more wrong. Go to numbers thread and see the shitflinging that nijiniggers constantly do there.
Most hololive dramas were created by salty and bitter nijiniggers. They are the eyesore of vtubing community. Bunch of despicable, arrogant, narcissistic and combustive faggots.
The worst holofan is nothing compared to a benign nijinigger.

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>>39501199
Kind of already happened with HoloEN
Actually even before that with the initial clipboom

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>>39497018
>he doesn’t know about the hundreds of vtubers on teich before it blew up
Lol
Lmao

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>>39491846
let them be weirdo, man

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>>39496476
>>39496513
>>39496517
>>39496581
>Cherrypicking screencaps comments of 4-5 retards
Jesus this is paranoid levels of reaching

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>>39501402
Personally D&D's style as a whole doesn't work for me, but I've only tried things as old as late 3.5/pf. From what I've read and heard, earlier editions don't avoid a lot of the problems I have with the newer ones.
I prefer other systems entirely, like the various world of darkness games, Burning Wheel, or Lasers and Feelings.

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>>39501862
None of the spaces they wanna be in belong to them. If someone has a problem with their behavior, it needs to be adjudicated on the merits.

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>>39501606
oy vey

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>>39501863
>cherrypicking
AAAIIIEEEEEEEEE this damage control is pathetic

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>>39502016
What the fuck are you talking about schizo? To who do the spaces belong then? You?

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>>39502274
Contrary to the popular misreading, the plural of anecdote is in fact data

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>>39501863
Eeverytime there is a comment whether on youtube or reddit shitting on holos it can always be traced to a nijinigger.

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>>39491777
Get gate-kept, virgin

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>>39502350
No one in particular.

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>>39502016
You sound like a groomer. Are we sure you arent the one who should be adjusted here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39502501
>Bla bla bla I dont know what "adjudicated" means

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>>39502572
retard

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>>39491846
The amount of anons seething at this basic bait post kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>39494773
nevermind tempus, they hated mori ever since the trashtaste collab, branded as the devil that started it all

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>>39502016
What if they have a problem with your behaviour?

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>>39497303
more than Niji unless you mean talent to be a whore

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>>39501199
How can Vshojo bring the normies if their numbers are far smaller and declining?
If anything brought normies was Coco's 400k graduation and Gura 200k outfit and every 100k big event.
I don't know how holobronies can claim the mainstream vtuber company doesn't bring normies but the niche ones do.

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>>39494838
Yes, SEED was good and had anime tiddie meanwhile Turn gAy had barely any tiddies and that whore Kihel wouldn't even her ankle shit anime to be honest.

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>>39502722
>Equating tourists to long term viewers
Actually retarded.

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>>39501606
>Go to numbers thread and see the shitflinging that nijiniggers constantly do there.
What planet do you live in retard?
Numbers is a dedicated Niji-anti trash general

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>>39502676
Same principle applies. It literally cant be helped. Even 4chan has mods, and every functioning community sanctions something. It matters a great deal what that is in practice though. If I'm an Arab and they wanna cancel me for it I have more of a grievance than if I'm a rapist.

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>>39501606
>The worst holofan is nothing compared to a benign nijinigger.
The holobrony cries in pain as he strikes you

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>>39502016
>adjudicated
BY WHOM, IMPERIALIST SWINE!

[Anonymous No.]

>>39501319
NTA but yes, vtuber is virtual youtuber

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>>39502396
Source: the voices in my head.

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>>39502884
There isnt a general answer to that question.

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>>39502822
Numbers get constantly raided by discord niggers with the worst takes possible shitflinging everywhere.

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>>39502938
Nope. There is tons of screenshots. If you werent a filthy tourist you would know this. Now do you reps.

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>>39491777
Cuckbeats ruined the medium

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>>39502875
>The nijinigger cries out in pain as it tries to concoct a retort.
But alas!

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>>39501320
>>39501402
>>39501907

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>>39503082
>Nope. There is tons of screenshots.
It's always the same 5-6 images lying cunt, I've seen them to exaustion.
"so many hundreds images" you've been posting this >>39496476 for half a year?

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>>39503019
How convenient

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>>39502704
not sure about that
>singing
Niji has more (and better) singers
Mori for rap
Ame for the sovl
>gaming
Selen alone shits on all of Holo
>dancing
Holo just because they actually have their 3Ds and Kiara
>musical instruments
i know Petra plays the piano, Fauna did some kalimba streams

any other talents we should compare? number of switch friends showing up on streams, perhaps? but i know the only talent you holokeks like is not collabing with males because it makes you feel like you're a cuck, cuck,

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>>39503035
It's almost like it's a garbage general that constantly flings shit to everyone, so everyone hates numberniggers.

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>>39502704
>unless you mean talent to be a whore
In that case Hololive wins by landslide

[Anonymous No.]

>>39503352
You just discovered political economy

[Anonymous No.]

>>39503371
>EN
roru
rumao even

[Anonymous No.]

>>39491846
I'm a weirdo and? Outside making stuff interesting what else you can say about it boring normalfag?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39496517
>Calli next please
I mean, when you’re right, you’re right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39503466
keep deluding yourself cuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>39491846
Based (You) getter, working the marks

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>>39491846
Fpbp. You hit the nail in the head, look at all the seethe, lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39503035
If you go to the numberfag thread, you are by very nature not a good fan of any vtuber

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>>39503892
Yeah, that saying about meeting only assholes is definitely applicable here.

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>>39491846
>make own group
>people join in
>same people push you out
>"dude you're just a weirdo"

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>>39493318
>That's was basically vtubing before Hololive.
fuck off, i bet you didnt even watch kizuna ai. everyone wanted more vtubers before the hololive boom and every vtuber at the time were friends since the circle was small. even then they wanted this niche to become popular beyond kizuna ai and luna, a lot of anons back in the jp threads fucking celebrated the numbers because they actually want people to enjoy this niche with them. people were already clipping vtubers but everyone still treated it as "japan being weird" similar to those ronald mcdonald touhou MAD videos. its thanks to hololive that you get to enjoy vtubers right now since it managed to get into the mainstream online content, else it would've been dead in the waters or have been isolated in japan and treated as just another weird japanese thing.

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>>39505480
Yet another reason why the "colonization" angle is idiotic. Nobody evangelized harder for normies to watch vtubers than the early adaptors.

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I only watched Kaguya Luna back then while I wasn't really interested with Ai and the rest, what does that make me?

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>>39505566
Read the comic again, smoothbrain

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>>39505648
If the comic disagrees with that, so much worse for the comic

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>>39492414
Unicorns are the ones doing the pushing

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>>39491846#
Kys

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>>39505685

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>>39505566
>>39505480
Nobody fucking cares about people obsessed with pre-streamer vtubers and your shit grade taste in world views
You are fags like every obsessive fan of any fan of pre-recorded content to have ever been born under the sun since the dawn of creation and you will be riddled with niggeraids until the day you die crying for forgiveness, go eat pork and fuck off

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>>39505758
>>39505872
Annnd here comes the reframe. These dishonest falseflaggers are nothing if not persistent

[Anonymous No.]

>>39505758
There is the subversion. Typical tranny mentality.

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>>39491777
What op doesn’t tell you is that the gachis and corns pushed out the first of fans first and killed a lot of tubers along the way.
We came back with knives this time.

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>>39506747
Use your knifes to kill yourselves.

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>>39506747
holy retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>39506913
Pretty sure the knives are metaphorical for one thing. For another, nah

[Anonymous No.]

>>39506747
Based. Even most Holotrash here are EOP Myth tourists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39506747
No one pushed anyone out since this was a new box created by gachis, retard. stop being so chuni

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>>39506747
>>39506747
>What op doesn’t tell you is that the gachis and corns pushed out the first of fans
what fans? vtubing was slowly dying at that point. then hololive came through and saved it.
stop falseflagging as some oldfag lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>39491777
Cataloguefags never belonged here

[Anonymous No.]

General only faggots belong on reddit.

[Anonymous No.]

People who read generals and sometimes the catalogue are okay

[Anonymous No.]

>>39507411
>Vtubing was a thing before holo and on verge of dying
>Holo saved vtubing
>Normies arrived
>Now vtubing is dying again

[Anonymous No.]

>>39503660
>>39504863

Normies don't even understand you are the original fan, they uniroincally see you as the invader, arguing with them is useless, once they are admitted into the fandom it's over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39491777
>slightly marginalized group makes their own space
>their space expands outward until it engulfs everything around it
>rest of the community tells them to fuck off
>"Why does everyone hate us, bros?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>39508464
vtubing isnt bad
if outsiders were more willing to have an open mind maybe they wouldnt be so irrationally negative

[Anonymous No.]

>>39493588
I love Iorin so much

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>>39491846
autistic annoying obese balding wizard NEET bros... we keep losing

[Anonymous No.]

>>39508706
True. But once you admit that vtubing wasn't some atoms in the void space that innocently existed with no externalities, and that "outsiders" have a legitimate interest in it, the comic is irrelevant and dumb.

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>>39496276
Yeah, it sucks because I don't mind dungeon crawlers with grindy combat and items/carry weight autism, but 5e flanderized DnD into >le silly greentext game, and it's sad to see.
Nowadays I play pic rel when I can scrounge up enough weirdos to play, but that's far and few between these days

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>>39509151
I havent played 5E, and am curious what you mean by "silly greentext game."

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>>39494773
How did vtubing discussion on this gay ass platform just become /v/ console war faggotry 2.0? The question's rhetorical of course, it was extremely recent. I just love chilling out with cute/beautiful voice anime people but this place has to be weird about it. I guess schizos just fill the void because otherwise there'd be no discussion at all?

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>>39491846
Quit being antisemetic, anon.

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>>39508125
Everyone EXCEPT HOLOLIVE is dying. Just wait for 2 more weeks and you'll see Hololive's Mario kart tournament absolutely destroy Niji's. Suisei and Aqua are way better than Kekzuha at Mario Kart.

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>>39491777
How dare more people enjoy vtubing and put their own spin on it

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>>39509615
Or you could have fun watching both and not care about numbers?

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>>39509283
EN Stars debuted, were collab ban lifted, and force memed into co-ed collabs. Predictably, Holo fans reacted to the imposition.
Since then, other corpo fans and their progressive lackeys demanded Holos be like them or leave, which is all the Discord invaders you see on /vt/ today. Their goal is also to destroy the manga industry, as evidenced by their recent media and influencer campaign.

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>>39509654
>you do not fit in here

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>>39509684
Am I not allowed to have fun? It's all about competition and cheering for your favorite team while shittalking the opponent, but really it's nothing personal.

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>>39509814
Find a quieter way to be retarded

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>>39509874
Stop gatekeeping

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What is there to gatekeep exactly?

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>>39509776
That was “why are you excluding us”

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>>39510246
https://files.catbox.moe/15hrix.mp4

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>>39491777
This is a really great analogy for Hololive fans trying to control and ruin NijiEN with their faggotry, thanks for posting it nijibro.