/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

SHUT THE FUCK UP SAYING PARASOCIAL.
parasocial is a stupid retard buzzword, made up by zoomers on twitch. SHUT THE HELL UP, you either say gachikoi, unicorn, etc. DO NOT say parasocial because it boils my blood and makes me angry so stop saying it and please use appropriate established terms instead of trying to force this retard zoomer twitch word.
thank you

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>>39455605
people will use the words they want to use, get used to it, faggot

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

you sound like a pair o' social nonsense, anon

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>>39455670
Not if I crash this board with no survivors

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>>39455605
You should stop getting so parasocial with /vt/ if it causes you such primal emotions.

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>>39455688
>parasocial
>>parasocial
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figaro!

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>>39455605
Parasocial is the established term, it has been used in academia since the 50s. Unicorn is a zoomer buzzword and gachikoi is weaboo speak.

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>>39455605
>force this retard zoomer twitch word.
its been around since the 50s you idiot

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>>39455688
I want to rape this smug whore

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>>39455971
>Unicorn is a zoomer buzzword
Newfags were a mistake.

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>>39456537
I have been here since 2009 and I never heard that word used to describe a person before vt was opened.

At any rate, it cannot be older than parasocial.

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>>39455605
But how else do you explain Noel's relationship with her audience besides the word parasocial? She needs us more than we need her.

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>>39455971
ガチ恋is 日本語 slang EOP くん。

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>>39455605
I think it's quite fitting that people engaging in a zoomer hobby uses zoomer slang, OP.

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>>39456773
I don't care.

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>>39456666
Like he said, newfag.

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>>39456944

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>>39455971
>>39457078
but not in the sense most people currently use it. (examples: Finana, many people on this board.)

[Anonymous No.]

I just want a singular social, thanks

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>>39457621
Explain the difference

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>>39457078
It's always the same thing. You find a few examples of it here and there throughout history and claim that it's an established, old word/term. It's the same with using "they" as a pronoun. It was practically never used prior to ~ 2014-15.
Fact is, while it might have existed in some obscure texts for a while, it's primarily used by young people only recently who do not use it in a proper context and only repeat it because they see others use it. Parasocial in the 50s =/ parasocial on twitter and vt. lolz.

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>>39455605
just don't be attached and involved?

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>>39455605
his parasocial w l ratio, fr fr no cap on a stack

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>>39458041
It has been used continually from the 50s to the present day.
>young people only recently who do not use it in a proper context
What is the proper context?
>Parasocial in the 50s =/ parasocial on twitter and vt. lolz
What's the difference?

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>>39457621
Most people are fucking stupid and think it just means "a viewer who is controlling and obsessed", doesn't mean the definition should be changed for them

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>>39457954
Parasocial more properly applies to traditional media than to streamers, for one thing. The relationship between fans and streamers is more real than the relation between Walter Cronkite and CBS viewers.

For another, it's not really a synonym for unhinged fans, or unicorns. People who like Pete Davidson because they relate to him or care about his life history are parasicial. So are people who care about Gura when they find out she's having health problems. It's just an asymmetrical relationship, not a "gotcha"

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>>39455605
Agreed, its overused and basically a buzzword like "incel"
it's not even correct when applied to vtubers/streamers
there needs to be a new term

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>>39455605
Sounds like you aren't coping well with your parasocial feelings toward a woman that doesn't know your name.

[Anonymous No.]

Agreed, its overused and basically a buzzword like "incel"
it's not even correct when applied to vtubers/streamers
the correct term is cybersocial
and of course its not a bad thing regardless of the real term so long as you dont go full schizo

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>>39458359
this anon gets it

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>>39458319

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>>39458433
>the correct term is cybersocial
Not really unless the reciprocity column is changed to Sometimes.

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>>39455605
parasocial sounds so pretentious

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>>39455688
What if she went full findom on stream out of nowhere

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>>39458359
>The relationship between fans and streamers is more real than the relation between Walter Cronkite and CBS viewers.
Lmao, no. Maybe for 2views, but that's definetely not the case for Hololive, Nijisanji or Vshojo

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>>39455605
>parasocial is a stupid retard buzzword, made up by zoomers on twitch
I remember watching a video about parasocial relationships in 2016. You may not have heard about it until recently, but that doesn't mean the concept didn't exist.

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>>39458359
Vtubers give you less reciprocity than radio hosts. They sure can squeeze more money out of their audience though

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>>39458826
Does she ever read your SCs or chat comments? Like your posts on Twitter or youtube? Say things about her fans while you're in chat? Just literally read the words you say, even if you don't get a response? Then it's more real than most traditional media.

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>>39458957
They are a possible exception in traditional media. It's no accident that Howard Stern had such a passionate audience. Still, I don't really agree.

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>>39459015
>>39458957

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>>39458957
do they? they interact with chat live, potentially constantly. that arguably puts them above radio hosts.

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>>39459093
That isn't really my experience, and my oshi is in hololive.

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>>39455768
This album is strong GFE, I can't blame him

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>>39458554
Sometimes means like "one way but maybe they might have events where they can interact with fans"
Streamers, by virtue of their audiences direct and immediate responses and them likewise replying in real-time spending, reciprocate them nearly all the time and likewise are reciprocated by their chat at nearly all times

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parasocial activity

[Anonymous No.]

would you rather people just say "emotionally dependent and attached to in a way that can be unhealthy" ?
Gee that's a lot of words that could be summed up into just one

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>>39459172
You are delusional then.

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>>39459314
>>39455605
>you either say gachikoi, unicorn, etc.

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>>39458041
It's the same concept so it's the same term even if the use differs a bit.

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>>39459201
That's also true for some radio shows and tv programs though.

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>>39459314
That generally isn't all people mean by it, at least not here. People just as often mean either the academic sense, or the menhera sense. And most relationships can be included under that definition anyway. Having a word that equivocal makes it easy to bullshit. Better to spell it out explicitly.

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>>39459414
I didn't say she was my best friend, or that she cared about me personally nearly as much as I appreciate her. Just that there's more to it than my local news anchor.

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>>39459172
Holomems go out of their way to not show favoritism or bond with individual fans, the one that didn't (Rushia) didn't end well

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>>39457954
any streamer who interacts with the chat fosters parasocial relationships. because you come to care about a "stranger", as it were.

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>>39459599
Yeah, on your side, you fucking simp. Not on hers.

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>>39459605
Do you think they don't ever interact with regular chatters, regardless of "favoritism?" They do. That's all I'm talking about.

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>>39459671
There's nothing to be delusional about. I can find a big ass catalog of her reading my random ass comments in chat. That's literally all I'm talking about.

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>>39455605
this is prime GFE

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>>39455605
What a parasocial comment on this parasocial board
Anyways parasocial has been used for decades before unicorns, gachis, and simps. It was brought to the public eyes doing the mr rogers years

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>>39455605
The brain rot is they use it without knowing the definition nor knowing the irony behind it all.

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>>39459671
The only reason you think this way is because you're a 0 personality loser who can't make an impression on anyone. IRyS does remember me.

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>>39459666
Any streamer who streams their face and voice is creating a parasocial bond. Same with stage musicians. The real difference is that idols and chuubas do it conciously.

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>>39459755
I have no real problem with the term, I just wish people used a different one for "menhera fans who think their oshi feels the same way about them" instead of one that gets inflated so badly. It confuses the topic. Even people like Ludwig (who really doesn't like people to think of him as his internet friend) have talked about how pretty much everyone who cares about his opinions is a little parasocial.

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>>39459795
So just like incel, cuckold, communist, fascist, feminist, SJW or any other popular insult .

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>>39456773
YWNBJ

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>>39459879
I'm sure she does, buddy

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>>39458644
That would be like a dream becoming true

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>>39455605
L + parasocial + smooth brain+ weeaboo

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>>39455605
you're a stunted parasocial incel and should hang yourself

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>>39464520
thats a stunted gachikoi incel to you, zoomerswine. now go overdose on your sleep meds retard

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>>39455605
When you start by saying something untrue that you know that everyone can easily fact check then you get nobody on your side except the retards.

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>>39458359
Traditional media didn't allow for a direct back-and-forth dialogue between performer and audience. That said, there's nothing real about a relationship between streamer and audience when the streamer has not met any members of the audience personally, and most likely never will. It's inherently impossible to relate to someone you know nothing about.

>People who like Pete Davidson because they relate to him or care about his life history are parasicial. So are people who care about Gura when they find out she's having health problems.
/vt/ user discovers empathy

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>>39464406
>>39464520
read the rest of the thread, retards.

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>>39457954
>>39459666
it doesn't have to be "boyfriend/girlfriend", it can just be "friend" or "acquaintance".

[Anonymous No.]

it''s actually a word made up by scientists you stupid parasocial creep.

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>>39465328
>t. parasocial creep in denial

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>>39465085
That trivializes parasociality to basic empathy plus a knowledge gap. And yeah, the concept is so vague and amorphous the way its used that that's fair. A concept like that cant handle any rhetorical weight, least not the kind that's put on it in practice.

I do disagree that it's not "real" though. That isn't me being normative about whether its good. It just is more meaningful on the streamer side than traditional media. Even if it leaves very little room for particularized knowledge of individual viewers. Plenty of streamers have talked about it. Off the top of my head, ironmouse and Mori.

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>>39465328
yea and it includes literally every streamer

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>>39468663
Yeah, all it's a very humdrum concept. Even the normies know that. Every discussion of it comes down to "that's just giving a shit about strangers dude."

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>>39468747 me
I dont say it because they're dumb. They're not. I say it because normal people are the ones most likely to have an axe to grind over something as Extremely Online as this.

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>>39468594 me
Also I said "more" for a reason. It's more like a regular social relationship with mutual interaction and real time exchanges and shit. That greater difference has a big role in explaining various aspects of streaming. Burying that under questions of whether it moves from quantity to quality is kind of beside the point.

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>>39455605
i love you haachama

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>>39458644
God I fucking wish...

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>>39459666
That’s reciprocal retard. A parasocial relationship isn’t reciprocal and has no direct interaction. Streamers aren’t parasocial.

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>>39455605
It's a legitimate word, if somewhat overused.
Now, utilizing it as a noun instead of an adjective is a very reliable sign of a zoomer fresh off the twitter boat or, even worse, a w*man.

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>>39455605
Chubby Chama>anything else

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>>39460058
I'm not that anon, but I can attest to the fact that IRyS does, in fact, remember things about frequent Superchatters and will mention previous superchats the person has made.

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>>39458433
>>39458359
>>39457621
>>39459201
This

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>>39455605
Parasocialism is a word in the dictionary you numbnuts. I hate zoomers like you so much.

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Stop trying to gaslight me anonchama

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>>39455605
you can't fight against anti-intellectualism on the internet without creating a whole new platform, thousands have tried before your time without success

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PARASOCIAL

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>>39455605
ok jeez

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>>39458644
why are zoomers like this