/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

What phase is Hololive at?

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5th

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Remove the girls with influencers and we're between the third and fourth part. Some of the newcomers are trying to be inventive, so they're not all toxic

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Hololive long passed the point of no return when HoloEN became a thing. Take the "you will never be Japanese" pasta for example. It is now frowned upon to even attempt to learn what the majority of vtubers are saying or the culture behind them. The EN invaders have won.

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in between 6th and 7th

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>>3936632
Stop posting this it never applied to anything, it's just teens seething at girls

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>>3936632
Provide a 1 sentence short summary of each one

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>>3936696
That just means you're the cancer depicted in the image. How does it feel to be a cultural locust

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>>3936632
Why specifically Hololive and not all of vtubing

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>>3936674
>you will never be Japanese
That's only posted when someone is an obnoxious jap only faggot

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>>3936674
Thats not how the ywnbj is used. It's used for people that are vtuber "purist" faggots

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>>3936632
Yikes which incel made this?

[Anonymous No.]

Kinda falls apart when women are the central focus of the hobby.

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>>3936706
You mean i'm a dudebro alpha or a girl?

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>>3936736
You're a faggot. Go take a load in the ass and die of AIDS

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>>3936706
it's all a matter of perspective. if you're a fag who's been using /jp/ for 10 years then imagine how much of a cultural locust vtubing/hololive must seem like.

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>>3936744
You will never have sex

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>>3936716
>>3936722
Not really. It's used whenever Japanese practice threads on this board occur or someone even mentions attempting to learn Japanese. The people who were originally in this hobby who respected the language the girls they love speak are now looked down on.

[Anonymous No.]

jesas the twitterfags are in full display

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>>3936660
haatons are already at 7th kek

[Anonymous No.]

If you talk about this site then 7th, people that were watching Hololive before it exploded in popularity in 2020 already migrated to JP twitter or somewhere else.

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>>3936632
7+. 2019 was a steady roll into 3 and then the pace increased drastically.

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>>3936710
Because this board is a 7

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>>3936757
> implying trannies will ever have sex with anyone
kek

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>>3936632
Everyone that has even posted this graph needs to understand you're the people that come "for the community" in the fifth panel.

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>>3936674
This.
You can easily see when the 4th panel became true.
Brown guy in the 3rd panel represents the /vpol/ tumors who started spreading their cancerous terms such as seethe, cope, kino etc around in /jp/ during early summer last year.
5th panel is the creation of /vt/.

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>>3936762
No not really, I dont know whatever dumb fuck attacked you for wanting to just "practice japanese" but in the end its just a shitty copy pasta that you don't have to cry about

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The fact this board exists at all means it's at the last stage. That includes all of vtubing not just holo.

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>>3936925
t. HoloENfag

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>>3936674
this tbqh

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>>3936934
Why does this board have so many reddit and discord trannies? Not even /v/ has so many obvious newfags who migrated over.

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>>3936762
Anon, I will personally attack any anon that attacks another anon with this copypasta for genuinely being curious about japanese

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>>3936957
Stay there vpol kid

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>>3936632
>someone actually posted this image unironically
Hahaha holy fucking shit, this anon called it a day ago. >>3916362

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>>3936957
Failed to gatekeep. Global was already a general full of newfags so when the other threads (/vyt/ /niji/ /hlg/) refused to leave from /jp/ they left a whole new board for tourists to run rampant

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>>3936985
The guy you linked to is obviously a complete reddit faggot who doesn't belong here so who gives a fuck what he "called".

[Anonymous No.]

has anyone respectable ever associated themselves with this line of thinking

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>>3936706
Holy fuck you retards actually believe that shit. It's like watching people unironically defend that meme chart of the dark ages.

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>>3936985
Based

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>>3936957
Failed to gatekeep. Global was already a "general" full of newfags so when the other threads ( /vyt/ /niji/ and /hlg/) refused to move from /jp/ they left a whole new board for tourists to run rampant.

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>>3936632
After seeing this https://youtu.be/KTdeh_483xA
6th-7th

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>>3936985
>Calling people 'incel'
Stage 6

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>>3937028
You mean he was completely right and you're seething

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>>3937038
Bet they believe in horoscopes too

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>>3937070
>Normalfags
>Ever being right about anything
They're NPCs

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>>3937072
holoscopes

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>>3936684
This, Hololive EN is borderline YouTube Twitch and is why I left for Nijisanji EN. Only to find the same fuckers asking for Hi Honey sneaking into the new batch.

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>>3936674
Which is why it is time to move on to the last stage of the cycle and separate the boards, because the ENfags do own the board and they should have it. Let JP chuuba fans be free to talk freely on a board without a ton of spam and drama all the time. Let the ENfags frame it as us "running away" if it makes them feel better, just let it happen already.

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>>3936985
Based, Yagoo made it because he has sex everyday with his wife

inb4:waaah reddit tranny cuck sex haver
See pic related

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>>3937066
Your stages don't exist, retard, that whole image is peak fucking cringe by showing off the delusional mindset of incels thinking they are persecuted and driven out of "their hobbies" or whatever, when they are the fucking cancer that comes and invades it to begin with.

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>>3937101
>incels
Stage 6

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>>3937101
that's a lot of buzzwords for such low quality bait

[Anonymous No.]

Is this what hipsters use to cope? Their whole job is to draw in new viewers

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>>3936985
This has been debunked
Hololive is filled with virgins in their 20s btw.
Some of the talents , the fanartists, the fanatics.
Even Ironmouse, a vshojo girl, is a virgin.
But what do I know, virgins apparently can't be creative constructive, funny, or charming.
You aren't a chad for having fucked a hole, you're just a retard with a big ego.
Otakus have made this hobby what it is, and normalfags are trying to ruin it, justifying their aggression with nothing but bull.

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>>3937081
If you unironically ever post that hilariously fedora tier OP image and/or believe it's legit, you are the fucking NPC, anon.

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>>3937084
Did someone say holo cope?

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>>3936985
>crosslinking global
imagine my shock
kill yourself

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>>3937119
>This has been debunked
No it hasn't, you just pull shit out of your ass.

>Hololive is filled with virgins in their 20s btw.
Anon please there's only so much retarded delusion I can take in one thread, good fucking lord.

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>>3937119
Touch some grass

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>>3937086
Your mistake was going for the EN side at all. Stick to the JP that started it.

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>>3937142
>splitposter talking shit about global
It's like you are a living, breathing avatar of cope.

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>>3937119
They're virgin GIRLS aka being that ruins hobbies according to the argument presented your post is shit

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>>3937120
How can you look at this board and think it's wrong? Fuck look at all the normalfags in this thread right now!

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>>3937171
The people you call "normalfags", they fucking created vtubing in the first place.

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>>3937171
Imagine complaining about normalfags
Especially when there's not a single one of them in this thread, are you 12?

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>>3937190
But it's the hikkiNEETs that kept it going

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>>3937171
>aaaaaaaaaa other people have sex and I can't? they must be NORMALFAGS, I am still SPECIAL for being a WORTHLESS FAT BASEMENT DWELLING SACK OF SHIT
Do you not realize how transparent your posts are?

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>>3937146
Holy newfag

>>3937167
strokechama?!

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>>3937214
No, neets have no money, vtubing was always a hobby carried by successful people

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>>3937190
>The people you call "normalfags", they fucking created vtubing in the first place.
90% of the Holos are Hikkineets though. Subaru is one of the few normalfags.

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>>3937165
>the original splitfags are calling others splitfag now
it's like you memory holed the entire month of september

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>>3937214
No, hikkiNEETs are parasites with no money.

>>3937225
I've been here much longer than you, and I'll still be here when you fuck off to go infest some other hobby after you decide this one has been "ruined" because you can no longer trick yourself into believing it's a safe haven for pathetic faggots like you.

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>>3937239
Yes there's nothing I like better than relaxing and watching some Miko after a long day being CEO of a successful multinational corporation. I am the Hololive demographic.

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>>3937247
Global posters didn't create the split you fucking newfag.

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This thread is hilarious, if you like vtubing get a job, money, and spend it all on it, your oshi will also be glad you're improving yourself

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>>3936674
>Eww idol culture is evil in everyway

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>>3937244
Holos aren't all of vtubing. But yes a lot of successful ones even in niji are hikkineets or just generally weird to begin with

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>>3937215
>WAAAAAH ALL MALE VIRGINS MUST BE THIS EVIL BOOGEYMAN
Not him, but you're retarded and made me seethe through the sheer concentrated stupidity on display.
Jeez, look at the statistics for once, the western world is filled with male virgins in their 20s.

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Are people unironically proud that they are neets and virgins?

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>>3936632
5th in nips, 4th in international.

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>>3937142
Oh I understand now, this is a dogfucker cope thread.

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>>3937276
This but unironically

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>>3937292
The western world is evil dumbo

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>>3937292
>the western world is filled with male virgins in their 20s
Yes we have more and more pathetic and useless people entering adulthood every day because the modern information age makes it easier for you faggots to crawl through life on easy mode like a worm without being forced to learn any real skills or socialize.

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>>3937299
You know there's a reason globalfags were kicked out of hlg right

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>>3937279
yes, anon. you got kicked out for being EOP raiders from plebbit. being forced to split doesn't mean you're not a splitfag

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>>3937156
All I want to see is what Haato was in when she did a few small English steams. Cute EN streamer with a proper setup, though those days have passed it seems.

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>>3937357
They left because it's a shithole filled with the absolute worst autists on /jp/ and it was easier to leave them in their containment thread than deal with that one fucking SEAnigger spamming gore and CP and shitting his pants all day.

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>>3936632
If you guys think is really at four then dont casualize the hobby then, no matter how 'cringe' it may be. When someone asks "what's vtubing ?" Your answer better be someone who adds a persona to an avatar, not simply a 'person using an avatar'.

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>>3937282
Yes anon I agree, but too bad nobody else in this thread is making this salient point. You have virgins unironically thinking this fact in itself makes them virtuous and you have obvious trendchasers who think their Hi honey! spam is contributing something worthwhile to the hobby. Both are retarded in their own special way.

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>>3937091
>Let JP chuuba fans be free to talk freely on a board without a ton of spam and drama all the time.

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>>3937362
>you got kicked out for being EOP raiders from plebbit
>dogfuckers still believe this cope

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>>3937255
An oldfag, eh?
You'd know many Holos are >>3937244
then.

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>>3937395
Touhou fags are barely any better anon.

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>>3937375
>They left
my fucking sides

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If you think about it in the grand scheme of things, we are the newfags that came in the the JP territory and started taking their toys away and claimed it as our own. We are the villains in this story.

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>>3937399
He's right though. You're just part of the same tumor trying to cope with the fact you were never wanted because you're fucking AIDS

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>>3937406
Technically none of them

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>>3937406
That's what they let you believe, because too many fans are psychotic unicorns who go fucking ballistic at the barest hint they've ever breathed the same air as a male member of the species. If you really think 90% of chuubas are virgins you are... well, about as stupid as someone who unironically posts the "degradation of a hobby" image and believes it.

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>>3937424
>successful people are the tumor
>not the group of freakazoid schizo autist incels
You're probably the fag who made the vocaroo the other day that got edited into the fucking big bang theory lol

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I have not a heard a single argument against OP's image. The whole idol thing started with purity, and now newcomers want to change the whole thing to be more like Twitch culture.
This entire thread is just calling other people incels.

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>>3937423
lmao do you really think you can force someone to learn a foreign language by posting in their chat?

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>>3937474
>I have not a heard a single argument against OP's image.
That's because anyone who fucking goes outside can tell abjectly on the face of it, it's a fucking ridiculous narrative from turbo-autists that is embarrassing just in how much it reveals of their warped perspective.

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>>3937423
As someone who has been fagging it up with this fad since 2017, you're a good one, anon.

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>>3937442
Of course it's not 90%, else I'd just referred you to the post without adding "many" before it.

>>3937461
False equivalency. Not wanting to have the hobby ruined by normalfags does not equal being unsuccessful.

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>>3937482
All the EN study streams...

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>>3937461
>Globalfags are "successful"
Nigger...what. Just because you're a reddit soifag doesn't automatically mean you're successful.

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>>3937461
https://vocaroo.com/1dyodG4502L1

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Here is where I think we are right now

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>>3937474
Because its retarded only neets and virgins unironically believe this pic

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>>3937474
>started with purity
newfag

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>>3937498
>Not wanting to have the hobby ruined by normalfags
Normalfags have never ruined a hobby, normalfags created every hobby you've ever enjoyed. You like video games? TTRPGs? Card games? Who do you think made those? Not basement dwelling acne-ridden NEET consumers.

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>>3937282
That and they can support a chuuba or agency that listens to their feedback

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>>3937485
Which is why the very same people are still seething about gamergate today I assume.
Anyone with a brain knows what's up.
Ever since "nerdculture" became mainstream it has been on a downward spiral.

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>>3937461
nigger, what success?

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If you just look at Towa's numbers, it's pretty fucking obvious the purityfags are in control.
Think about that. Just a few seconds of a male voice in a background has permanently tanked her numbers.

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>>3937527
The best games are made by complete autists. The worst games are made by normalfags who fill it up with interracial relationships, niggers and other SJW shit.

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>>3937553
SJWs aren't normalfags you fucking retard, they're just the opposite end of the same incel spectrum as you.

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Answer two simple questions and we can filter out the reddit cancer easily

1. Favorite Holo
2. Do you hate niggers

Go

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>>3936632
Stage 2 was Coco
Stage 3 was EN
Stage 4 was vtweeter drama, the rate of failure to debut being a nice analog to the girl character making a token effort
Stage 5 is just starting with corporate tubers like Netflix
Stage 6 will be pngtuber/pngtweeter elaborate corporate larping with few scripted clips, basically reduction into twitter with more steps
Stage 7 will be in about 18-24 months.

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>>3937474
There's not the argument this is about, because the situation has undeniably happened. We're not in hololive Gens 4 or 5. Just how far gone things are is what is being discussed. Considering Hololive is now collaborating with Vshoujo, things have changed, that is a plain fact. A year ago, western Vtubers interacting with a Japanese company would've been impossible.

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>>3937577
SJWs are normalfags in the purest sense. Complete NPCs who go along with the herd and are incapable of self reflection. The modern urban bugman is the prototypical normalfag.

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>>3937578
Towa
Yes

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>>3937417
whatever helps you sleep at night, retard.

everyone knows the /jp/ thread is the anti containment thread, and the /jp/ leftovers who refuse to move on are unironic, yellow-fever "I wish I were japanese" faggots of the highest order.

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>>3937578
Rushia
Yes

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>>3937527
Not neets, but not normalfags either.
You don't have to be a neet to not be a normalfag.

>>3937578
Fubuki
No, most of them can't be held accountable and therefore hated because of their natural predispositions, they're a problem though.

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>>3937553
>The best games are made by complete autists
Only you fucking NEETs believe this. Every great game is made by at least moderately attractive, hard-working men who are usually married. There are no fat virgin otaku autists making anything of value, because the same qualities it takes to provide something valuable to the world are ones that make a positive impression on partners.

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>>3937607
/jp/ is just anti EN

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>>3937578
Stay in /v/

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>>3937500
that's just numberfagging. Most vtubers never bothered to learn any English.

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>>3937607
And yet I'd happily post alongside any of them rather than you.

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>>3937601
>Complete NPCs who go along with the herd and are incapable of self reflection.
That's literally you except you do the contrarian thing where you think going the opposite of the herd makes you smart, instead of actually reflecting on the situation and being discerning and reasoning in your decisions.

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>>3937634
All the english lessons they pay for behind the scenes...

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>>3937647
I've read Heidegger nigger. Have you? You are beneath me in every way.

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>>3937607
This.

>>3937636
Because you're one of those cancerous shitlickers, so go on back there.

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>>3937661
>Infest a community
>Tell original posters to "go back" because you don't like being told you're cancer
Remind me why the OP image is wrong again?

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>>3937624
>Every great game is made by at least moderately attractive, hard-working men who are usually married. There are no fat virgin otaku autists making anything of value
You did a pretty decent job in all honesty.

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>>3937656
>I'VE READ THIS ONE AUTHOR SO I'M SMURT
You are literally proving my point. My gf is sleeping right next to me in the house that I own. You fuck your hand in your mother's basement. You are fucking deluded into thinking you are not an NPC and instead of trying to improve yourself you just twist and warp your worldview to think NO, THE PEOPLE LIVING BETTER LIVES THAN ME ARE WRONG, I MUST BE SPECIAL FOR BEING A VIRGIN.

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>>3937582
I think we're close to stage 6. It's not too hard to rig a png to fade to black while not talking.

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>>3937656
Is this parody? This retard is proud of reading books

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>>3937694
>LARPing this hard
Dude, we all know you're a 15 year old already.

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>>3936632
lol Hololive already passed through all these when Idol Club imploded and thousands of their fans flocked to Hololive and suddenly demanded that male collabs should be made a taboo because it was like this with their former group.

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>>3937694
Well, you're right, one author doesn't make a well-read man, but you're also chimping out like a total jackass.

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>>3937708
And now the denial where you realize you have no fucking argument so you need to pretend I'm lying to cope.

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>>3937550
Hey eop friends! In case you’re wondering, you can see Towa’s numbers in the third box from the bottom on the bottom line.
>4,306; 3,199; 3,583
Towa’s numbers are lower than most of the girls here but they only cover the last few months. It would be more interesting to see Towa’s number pre and post yab numbers for a better indication of how purityfags affect numbers. She’s her numbers are similar to Roboco, Sora, and Aki who have done nothing to upset purityfags and from an objective standpoint, she is performing fairly well out of all vtubers and youtubers in general.

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>>3937713
Nah I'm just being uncompromising, the whole thread existing is a chimpout by fags who need a wake up call.

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>>3937714
I'm a billionare who is posting from my yacht with my supermodel wife sleeping next to me. If you don't believe men then you're coping by pretending I'm lying.

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>>3936632
Entering 5th phase

4th is when kiara joined

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>>3937745
Cute hyberbole won't save you.

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>>3937624
The truth is somewhere in the middle, usually a functional autist steering a group of normies makes the best games. When it's just the autist you get an indy game in RPG maker or a small game project if the autist can loop another friend in.

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>>3936757
>normie still thinks having sex is an extraordinary achievement in the year of our lord 2021

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>>3937756
>Nooooo you need to believe me! COPE COPE! I'm successful the fact I've replied 50 times to a shitpost thread on 4chan proves it!

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>>3937762
OP seems to think it's an extraordinary achievement since he posted an image that's entirely pure distilled essence of virgin cope.

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>>3937762
It's harder nowadays more than ever though

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>>3937772
You might as well just start attaching wojaks at this point if you're this bone dry on arguments.

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>>3937578
Do we have niggerlovers here? Stage 5 then

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>>3937727
You should have clarified that Towa's viewership is literally less than half of any of her genmates.

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>>3937652
you're talking about hololive and most of the holos stopped their lessons. The only one's who are improving were already interested in western culture before.

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>>3936632
Só far there's enough gatekeeping that the newcomers trying to change it are either made to fuck off or they learn the minimum respect to the culture and rules, since the majority of newcomers are still weebs.
But I don't trust it if these upcoming vshojo collabs bring too many random twitch retards to the fold.. although by analyzing their viewership they'll likely remain in heavy minority either way.

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>>3937578
pekora
yes, even though most have done nothing wrong they are especially criminal

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>>3937818
Noel keeps going

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>>3936632

vtubing as a whole went this path fast.
holo en has set it immediately to stage 4.5. it accerated well padt it by now.
you can tell just by the raging twitterniggers how bad it really is. every hobby that is not being viciously gatekept from outsiders is bound to succumb to alien corruption.

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>>3937607
A lot of those "leftovers" are just posters who were around before anyone in this thread and most people on this board even knew about Vtubers. They don't really have a reason to completely move to this shithole lol.

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>>3937869
I didn't think it was so bad until I read this thread. What the fuck is up with the retard twitterniggers crying incel at everything they don't like? Disgusting.

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>>3937845
>Só far there's enough gatekeeping
i dunno, literally anyone who likes idol culture gets shat on nowadays. basically no streamer, hololive or indie, is allowed to do it by /vt/, only actual 3d idols

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>>3937727
>holomems' sole 'talent' is the illusion of GFE
who wouldav thunk

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>>3937550
>It is all purityfags
Her non-singing voice is literal shit, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>3937907
give me a vtuber that isn't gfe or bfe

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>>3937886
It's fun to type incel because it triggers pseuds who are only into vtubing because it's the new 4chan fad, i'm a hikki incel too

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936985
Seems more like the hat guy in panel 5

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>>3936632
Judging from what happened to Futakuchi, we're doing enough of a good job gatekeeping that the whole community is smart enough to tell the pink girl of the image to fuck off with her bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3937607
yet you always come raiding the /jp/ thread to seek validation for your EN chuubas, what gives?

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>>3937886
>I didn't think it was so bad until I read this thread.
/jp/ got completely fucking obliterated by crossboarders and off-siters for like a full year so it's not like there was ever really an alternative outcome.

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>>3937947
I’d expect this be a watame post before I’d guess it would be noel post. Either way, cool to see all the newfags replying to bait. The stage advances more each time anyone is retarded enough to reply anything in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3937928
Maybe watch something out of the Hololive bubble, EOP. This shit almost exclusive to Hololive and Idol Club

[Anonymous No.]

>>3937101
Stage 6 reddit guy detected.

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>>3938063

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>>3937947
Yeah I think anyone who still gets triggered by incel is probably a baby one

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>>3938022
We just cant accept literally anyone using an anime avatar as a vtuber (pokimane, pewds, futaku, ash, codemiko, connor, bahroo, that big latin streamer). Trendhoppers need to be quickly pushed away, before they infect the community with their shit.

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>>3938118
>Trendhoppers
Like Noel or Nene?

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>>3936632
The vtubers fanbases seem mostly good enough to keep away the retards (well obviously not counting the twitch ones), I think the biggest problems is that new streamers try to change the community from the inside, with examples such as:
> Veibae the lying whore
> Nyanners and her constant backstabbing
> that one vsinger who tried to campaign for Palestine
> Kiara desperate to attract newfans from anywhere, no matter how trash
> Elira "Im a Libra" Pendora
> all vtweeters in general
etc

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>>3938227
>that one vsinger who tried to campaign for Palestine
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>3937859
She's been overseas before, so he's still correct.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3938077
Can't give any example at all. If noone does it except holo it must be easy to just pull something up faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>3937091
That's /jp/, anon and I'm honestly question whether those guys even actually like vtubers. Retards who seem more interesting in hating vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>3938241
>agreeing with what AoC says word by word wow so based and revolutionary

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936942
You say that as if I give a fuck

YWNBJ

[Anonymous No.]

>>3938329
>siding with Israel to dab on the libtards

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936736
Filthy third stager cancer.
You are a shit eating uninvited guest, iceberg tipping, straw that broke the camels back fucking faggot.
Go back to where you belong and leave us First and Second stagers alone.
The way out is right over here.

[Anonymous No.]

Feelin a little first stage doomer today
Actually no you know what, feelin more second stage coomer actually

[Anonymous No.]

>>3938118
>We just cant accept literally anyone using an anime avatar as a vtuber
>We
You're not HoloEN staff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3938329
>>3938424
Kill yourself american
>>3938449
You're a 6th stager yourself (according to that stupid picture)

[Anonymous No.]

The absolute state of this board
By now, the vtuber scene already went through all stages, with some oldfags liking the changes and staying
98% of this board got into vtubers after the 4th stage, including me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3937794
imagine believing this

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936674
you can just not mind the faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936750
this

It's not exactly hololive itself, but the whole thing has acted kinda like the /pol/ 2016 election in that it has attracted fuckloads of tourists from reddit, discord and other places that couldnt care less about this place and use it as their own personal designated shitting ground.
Shit like /hlgg/ is sometimes on the level of a fucking stream waiting room.

This board is always on risk of becoming a giant discord-reddit-zoomer non4chan clusterfuck. It needs either more moderation, of self-moderation at the level of pre-shonenshit /a/ or the old extremely hostile /jp/ (sage in all fields era)

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936750
I'd feel about for the /jp/ users but most of the people who were still using /jp/ before vtubers entered it were cultural locust themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3938241
>supporting Hamas is based
Go KYS you faggot and take you punk bitch with you

[Anonymous No.]

>>3939525
idk i figure that casually dropping nigger and faggot in my posted every once in a while helps filter out undesireables. it seems like /hlgg/ is somewhat of a containment thread but i don’t go there enough to say for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3939677
The allure of muh sekrit club is so great even normalfags let nigger slide, they'll change it once they're unopposed later.
Post cunny, or even pony, just to be extra sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3939758
This is a public board anyone can access though? Normalfags are so weird

[Anonymous No.]

>>3939568
/jp/ was made because of the touhou spam on /a/ so those are the true natives. Later on some japanese related shit got thrown into it, like the train threads, kigurumi, onaholes etc.
Then it came idols, which was already controversial for /jp/. Later on vtubers. JP vtubers are turbonewfag territory compared to the touhoufags, even if they themselves are oldfags compared to EN vtubers and /vt/.

I don't know what the fuck has been going on in the vtuber threads in /jp/, the constant anger could be either a remnant of the hostile /jp/ era (sage goes in all fields), or some kind of /v/ infestation, or the /r9k/ subhumans mutating into purityfags.

Reminder that /r9k/ has always been laughed at. Reminder that true weeaboo (gomenasai Ken-sama, japan is superior) has always been laughed at by /a/, /jp/ and the rest of the otaku boards. You retards pretend to be oldfags but you are as much cancer as the rest.

That said, discordfags and the likes are even worse since they just come here to shit up the place for fun, since their "main culture" is not 4chan, but those other places. It's basically an ongoing raid. It was bad already with the rise of phoneposting killing most OC and now we have to deal with this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3939758
Add yiff shit to guarantee tourists to fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>3939677
>>3939758
Racism attracts newtards like nothing else, you only have to check popular boards

Politeness filters trash posters like (you)

[Anonymous No.]

>>3939854
>tfw /vt/ becomes the long awaited furryboard.
finally the chosen people will have a home of their own. They were thrown out of 242 boards, after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936726
>Yikes
>incel

Go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>3939986
>Replying to that awful bait
Go back.

[Anonymous No.]

Shuba definitely ending this stupid idea that hololive wasnt a normalfag hobby even before (you) started watching it

[Anonymous No.]

Don't casualize the hobby.
Don't let anyone redefine it.
Dont treat it as a fad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936632
Even if these exist they haven't really affected my enjoyment of Hololive in anyway so I don't really see why I should care. In fact, I think Hololive for is the most enjoyable it has ever been, and I'm looking forward to more and more streams nowadays. So again, why should I, or anyone care, when these perceived stages don't have any negative effect on the quality of the streams?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3940240
You're supposed to doompost and post nigger in every message or you're reddit

[Anonymous No.]

>>3940240
They will though just like they destroyed video games and anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>3940299
News to me that video games and anime have been destroyed. You sure that's not just your depression making you unable to enjoy things?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3940317
Sony and Isekai

[Anonymous No.]

>>3940352
What's wrong with those? Hasn't Sony been putting out a lot of really high quality first/second party titles lately? Don't really see how the isekai anime has anything to do with these stages.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936661
the fanbases have always been toxic. At the very least make peace that the only reason we're all here are synthetic relationships. Not mad, it's why I'm here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3940168
>Don't casualize the hobby.
Already happened the moment it reached the "English" speaking majority audience.
>Don't let anyone redefine it.
See above
>Dont treat it as a fad.
What if people got bored?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3937578
Aki
I pity them

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936632
This is a secret tribalfag post, disregard it for your own safety

[Anonymous No.]

>>3940352
Isekai is awful but it's pandering to NEETs, not normies

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936632
If that ever applied, hololive started at stage 6 or 7 because it's a corporate product. There was never a point where it was a sekrit club filled with pure enthusiasts

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936632
This thread alone is proof of this "hobby" being in the 5th or 5th stage. I remember when things like noooo posting were enough to get you dog piled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3937119
Ironmouse isn't a virgin, but why does it matter? Why the fuck is this board so obsessed with what some cringy chicks do outside of the vtuber persona? Not a single one of you would even know who these people were if it weren't for le forbidden knawedge.

This is just reddit the board at this point

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936632
Their smile and optimism: GONE!

[Anonymous No.]

>>3938635
>Siding against Israel, which is predominantly supported by America, makes you an American
I'm a bonger anon. I hate Israel not because AOC told me to, or because I'm a libtard, but because I've done my own research and realised Israel has consistently been an absolutely shit tier country, with such highlights as broadcasting porn on TV in occupied areas, hiring people to pretend to be pro-Israel on social media platfrorms, firing on American boats and pretending it was Hamas, and getting members of parliament fired for holding an Anti-Israel stance. that shit stain of a country should be wiped off the map, no country on earth benefits from its existence but itself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3941713
No one asked anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>3937119
>Even Ironmouse, a vshojo girl, is a virgin.
Kinda weird to put Ironmouse like this as an example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3941713
Fucking go back and stay in /pol/ nazitard

[Anonymous No.]

>>3941713
t. American

[Anonymous No.]

>>3941713
Based Azzam Al-Britani

[Anonymous No.]

>>3941713
Hating Israel is so 2012, get with the times gramps

[Anonymous No.]

>>3941713
Are there Israeli or Muslim rape gangs in bongland? Then again you're probably a muzzie yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3941713
>blah blah blah bong not burger
you have an americanized mentality, not because of whatever isreal bullshit but because you're trying to inject it into cute anime girls playing vidya. The OP comic doesn't only apply to normies and sjws

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/pol/
>>>/int/
>>>/bant/
AWAY!

[Anonymous No.]

>>3940317
vidya not completely because there will always be good indies and small companies, but there hasn't been a big budget good original anime in years. It's all isekai, LN and manga adaptations that end after one or two seasons to drive book sales, and maybe some classic otaku bait moeshit to fill out the schedule because suits won't sign off on anything that isn't sword art online

[Anonymous No.]

>>3942471
Anonchama, you forgot that /vt/ is /pol/'s refuge

[Anonymous No.]

>>3942697
It's common courtesy to take off your shoes before you enter a house. Goes for /leftypol/ as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>3937150
>Trendy zoomer buzzphrase that he probably just learned yesterday
Yikes

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936793
Wears the honor of being the only Holo girl I was subbed to that I unsubbed from

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936632
>pic
How can the female attract attention if the vtubers themselves are literally the female trying to attract attention?

[Anonymous No.]

I think there is nothing wrong with purityfag and unicorn. While it does makes idol with zero personality become popular, it work as a good filter for whore that also try to make conntent.
Not only it will gatekeep ヤリマン bitch who only can gain popularity by having sex with fans and managers, it will filter the whores with zero personality so the only whore people would watch are those who actually funny and have personality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936632
>Pot calls kettle black

[Anonymous No.]

>unironic use of incel in this thread
Why do vtubers and other anime stuff attract faggot-ass White people?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3937119
>Even Ironmouse, a vshojo girl, is a virgin.
Well, I mean, there's only so much she can do without dying

[Anonymous No.]

>>3942697
It isnt!

[Anonymous No.]

>>3942972
I like to believe everyone is being genuine online until it'll affect me in real life, but half of that shit has to be bait, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3942972
Ok homosexual

[Anonymous No.]

We NEED to kill hololive before THEY will kill it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3942972
Unironic /qa/ trannies and discord trannies frequent this board

[Anonymous No.]

>>3942863
there's no way to stop whores trying to make it in entertainment, except shoving them off to porn companies or Vshoujo in the case of vtubing. Catering to people that think a girl even liking a male coworkers tweet means they're married leads to stupid bullshit like Aloe's career abortion

[Anonymous No.]

>>3943174
Like this schizo nigger right here >>3943074

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936632
It really depends. Hololive has fanbases, plural, not just a single community.

[Anonymous No.]

Hobby is streaming videogames and both e-whores and vtubers are the pinks.

[Anonymous No.]

>there's no way to stop whores trying to make it in entertainment, except shoving them off to porn companies or Vshoujo in the case of vtubing. Catering to people that think a girl even liking a male coworkers tweet means they're married leads to stupid bullshit like Aloe's career abortion

[Anonymous No.]

>>3937101
>incels
stage 6 cancer

[Anonymous No.]

>>3937550
For my part, I like towa, but I hate apex in general, and I can no longer justify staying up late or waking up early to catch her singing streams live. So I gotta watch vods.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3943257
Funny part is I absolutely hate twitch streamers for the most part. They're all too tryhard or unfunny. Just chatting streams have women who are dressing as slutty as possible to get people to click on their videos.
>But Anon, the anime characters are the same thing!
Not really. I know the woman behind the mic doesn't give two shits what she looks like because the camera isn't actually on her and I think it lets the streamer feel more relaxed leading to a nicer stream experience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3943174
This is the first time a boogeyman has been correct

I wont tell you which though

[Anonymous No.]

>>3943366
No it's not the first time, schizo newfaggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>3938227
Weird you chose Elira the entry level ken-sama rather than the ironic zoomer fish.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936632
repace woman with e-celebs

[Anonymous No.]

>>3943346
Those "tryhard" twitch streamers are browns themselves. So called chill streamers are the majority from what I observe.
>more relaxed (...) nicer stream experience
Those were the first popular streamers. Stuff like saltybet, vidya rumble or bald god for example which even /v/ liked.
>the camera isn't actually on her
Technically incorrect since the face capture wouldn't work otherwise, but more importantly, you're missing the point.
It's not about showing their body but about seeking attention for being female. For every Korone who actually likes games and plays obscure retro stuff for fun, there are scores or shit tier vtubers banking on their female models and feminine voices doing lowest effort content like zatsudan, whisper asmr or not even febutting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3944727
What you're describing is what Hololive used to be before it got popular. I don't really enjoy that kind of content either so it's a good thing Hololive got more popular when their content shifted towards mass-appeal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936632
Real question is where are we at here?

[Anonymous No.]

>wojack
Stage 6

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936632
A weird spot because women were always part of the hobby.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936757
Daily reminder that lily is literally part of the 41%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936632
We're in both the 3rd and 4th stages, and due to the nature of the hobby, reaching the 5th stage causes us to cycle back to the 3rd. If you gatekeep properly, it can't advance to the 6th stage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3946228
That also started at the end stage, gatekeeping and inclusivity never applied to vtubing because it's just streaming with a facetracked avatar

[Anonymous No.]

>>3937101
Holy shit go back to your shithole, reddit nigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936985
>indog linking his own post
stage 6 schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>3939758
>>3939677
>"undesireables"
That'd be you, anon. /a/, /jp/, and /vt/ aren't a part of your damn /pol/ culture crusade.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3937928
The majority of Hololive isn't GFE. This post just proves how much of a retard you are and don't even watch the girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936632
7 since December 2019.

[Anonymous No.]

Something I find interesting is that so many different groups have identified this phenomenon, yet there are still people that refuse to believe it exists.

4chan used to call them primaries/secondaries.
OP's image calls them original members/dudebros.
This guy, speaking mostly about musical subcultures, calls them fanatics/MOPs (https://meaningness.com/geeks-mops-sociopaths))
Marketers recognize the difference between evangelist customers and nonevangelist customers, and attempt to balance their product between attracting new money with not alienating their evangelists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3946629
You do /vpol/

[Anonymous No.]

>>3947366
When people on this site use those terms there's the underlying implication that introducing more people to the niche makes it worse. That's the part people find objectionable. In this thread's context it's also clearly false since Hololive has improved, rather than declined when it's become more popular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936632
>At this point, the hobby is mostly unrecoverable. Females join
Fucking love this picture. That line makes me laugh every time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3937578
1. Flare
2. I, understandably, have conflicted thoughts about this.

[Anonymous No.]

You should worry about the EN side of vtubing. The JP scene will probably be fine, but the EN community is already part /mlp/ and part normies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3937550
What an absolute plebian post, Towa's yab is all but forgotten at this point, her current numbers are mostly because she, just as Festival, only plays fucking APEX nonstop, pull the numbers from her karaoke streams and you'll se a major spike.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3947366
>yet there are still people that refuse to believe it.
because they are said secondaries, MOPs, newfags. It's all the same thing, really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3942847
I'm sure she's devastated, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

Hundreds of people using holos as reaction images should clue you in on what stage its on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936632

> females

[Anonymous No.]

>>3938227
I don't know anything about those examples, but the premise makes sense.
Most new vtubers probably watch other vtubers for ideas, and just want to fit in with the community. But, there are also normal streamers who try to join in because it's trending, then start bitching about the community as if it's something that needs to change to accommodate them, like all the males feeling entitled to some boring Apex collab with Hololive.
Although, funny enough, those types tend to get filtered by the whole concept of a vtuber avatar, and eventually just call the whole thing cringe and fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3947515
>When people on this site use those terms there's the underlying implication that introducing more people to the niche makes it worse.
It's about the culture. If you attract more people who integrate and behave well, it maintains the atmosphere of the environment. Most have to be gatekept to a certain degree first. It's what separates the Soratomos from Chumbuds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3947515
>hololive has improved
Management is tighter on them then ever before and permissions are still affected. Literally everything but their viewer numbers has declined

[Anonymous No.]

>>3937578
>and we can filter out the reddit cancer easily
/jp/ > /hlg/ > /hlgg/ > Reddit > /v/ = /pol/
Anyone taking you seriously is outing himself as a newfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3948565
Her mental health certainly is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3949487
>Management is tighter on them then ever before and permissions are still affected.
I have no idea what you expect to happen after the China arc and I guess you're just going to conveniently ignore how they've just gotten Capcom and Square Enix permissions now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3949408
Chumbuds existing has so far not made my experience any worse. Nor is the atmosphere any worse. So I don't really care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3937578
1. Nene
2. /pol/ is worse than 4chan. Please stop ruining our hobbie and go back to watching hero hei and "epic feminism fail compilation 2021"

[Anonymous No.]

>>3949893
>Chumbuds existing has so far not made my experience any worse.
If you aren't looking for something like a usable chat function, they wouldn't. KFP would be a more easily understood example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3950107
>If you aren't looking for something like a usable chat function, they wouldn't
Her chat goes fast. Is that your complaint?
>KFP
What's the problem with KFP? Seems to me they're supportive of their oshi and Hololive in general?

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936632
seethe more incel

[Anonymous No.]

>>3936632
5th, just replace girls and dudebros with twitter and youtube ecelebs and their retard fanbases.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3950290
>Her chat goes fast. Is that your complaint?
Fast, with a lot of emote spam and little really being said. From what I've seen, she plays off her own thoughts or the game far more than the chat.
>What's the problem with KFP?
Militant spammers.
>Seems to me they're supportive of their oshi and Hololive in general?
Supportive of their oshi, definitely. I love to see that. Hololive as a whole? No. They're constantly picking fights over small slights. This is just about the "not made my experience any worse" bit. Interacting with Kiara, they're fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>3950358
go back, reddit