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39010650 No.39010650 [Reply] [Original]

What if I told you that some people watch vtubers because they are entertaining and not because they are seeking a romantic relationship?

>> No.39010849

literally me.

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>>39010650
They're just like one of my favorite Japanese anime.

>> No.39011035

And those people are lying to themselves. Don’t ever make a thread here again.

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>>39010650
There's very few girls who are actually entertaining that you could watch without tapping into some fantasy where the anime bitch on the screen is your girlfriend. That fantasy disappears if she happily laughs along to some guy's jokes. That's why it was a big deal with Kronii because if you watch her without imagining you're her loving boyfriend she's just a dull, boring woman. (t. not a kronie so I didn't care.)

Ironically, Gura is one of those that can carry themselves without that fantasy because she's funny enough to do that

>> No.39011132

>>39010650
Literally me

>> No.39011144

>>39010650
I watched Hololive because it was fun to shitpost on hlgg about it. Now I exclusively watch 2views because they actually talk to me.

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>>39010650
I was like that once....then I fell in love the more I watched said Vtuber.

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>>39010650
Those people watch clips not vtubers.

>> No.39011179

>>39011105
Kronii is the funniest HoloEN though

>> No.39011210

>>39011179
Proofs?

>> No.39011231
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>>39010650
Ok but besides Korone who does this apply to?

>> No.39011236

>>39010650
what's so entertaining about watching a girl flirt with a dude

>> No.39011259

>>39010650
Yeah, that's why I like Mori. I don't care about the streaming or if she's attractive. I just like her music.

>> No.39011266

This is but a cope constructed by friendless people who think they are better than those they critique.

>> No.39011285

>>39010650
BULLSHIT OP!

>> No.39011295

>>39010650
Ah, yes, the blue pill, interesting. Perhaps I could also go outdoors and touch those green things on the ground. What was that called again? Grass?

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>>39011236
I watch all kinds of anime and it's very entertaining. Especially if they're romcoms

>> No.39011572

>>39011231
Nobody in Hololive. Koro-san is the only one worth watching.

>> No.39011746

>>39010650
I don't understand the obsession with treating it like a romantic relationship when it functions perfectly fine for both sides as a friendly platonic parasocial relationship.

>> No.39011835

Don't tell them, you're gonna break them.

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>>39010650
Is it possible to learn this power?

>> No.39011978

They are fucking retards then. There are million other things that provide better entertainment than most vtubers

>> No.39011999

>>39011035
is that how you cope?

>> No.39012018

>>39011163
But 35p don't see her like this
Right ?

>> No.39012138

>>39010650
Holofags don't know what an entertaining Vtuber is like.

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>>39010650
>seeking a romantic relationship?
With a vtuber? That's not going to happen extra especially not with you depressed weebs.

>> No.39012363

>>39010650
literally not a single person watches streams for entertainment

>> No.39012429

>>39010650
That's why I watch Tempus. They're just funny dudes

>> No.39012446

>>39010650
cope thread

>> No.39012608

I also watch male streamers. Very based OP.

>> No.39012657

>>39012363
that doesn't make any sense.

>> No.39012692

>>39012018
>the other of Sword Art Online, THE LN series to be blamed for the modern popularity of the isekai genre, could only be enticed to complete his new manuscript with the promise that he could meet Miko on a TV show
>spends most of it gushing about Miko instead of actually talking about his new LN

>> No.39013047

>>39010650
Those people are retards or underage faggots who have been eating goyslop their entire life so their standard for entertainment is really low that they can find watching a woman doing mundane shit for hours almost everyday as a viable source of entertainment.

>> No.39013124

>>39010650
imagine watching livestreamers play video games and then claiming you do that because it’s such excellent content

>> No.39013125

>>39010650
what if I told you go back?

>> No.39013165

>>39010650
They are not enough to support the whore and that's is always the main arguements.

>> No.39013260

>>39012657
streaming as a medium is inherently parasocial, that doesn't mean you want to fuck the streamer.

>> No.39013595

>>39010650
so because there's another group of people who likes things differently, others should follow suit? there's a reason why the most hated group is homobeggars

>> No.39014547

>>39011105
>Gura is one of those that can carry themselves without that fantasy because she's funny enough to do that
I don't know if chumbuds live in a fantasy world or they simply don't know better because they don't understand japanese. Although I wouldn't know if Gura is the best EN streamer either

>> No.39014631

What if I told you that he never says "what if I told you" in the movie?

>> No.39014687

>>39011105
I've tried watching Gura and her humor is just typical irony-poisoined shit and le randoms. Very cringe, not funny, didn't laugh.

>> No.39014738

Those people are lying to themselves

>> No.39014866

>>39010650
>leddit meme
/vt/ is dead

>> No.39014927

>>39011295
Touch grass feels like something someone who doesn't actually know what people do outside would come up with.

>> No.39014973

>>39010650
roru rumao.
Then those "people" are either lying to themselves or have the lowest shit taste imaginable.

Let's be real: Less than 1% of female vtubers (or lol females in general) are actually "entertaining" in any objective sense of the word that doesn't simply go for the subjective "w-well ~I~ like her, sooo...." lowest denominator bar. As in, actually being able to be engaging, creative, funny enough to make sitting through a multiple hour stream of theirs not a slog but actually an enjoyable experience that doesn't feel like a total waste of time.

Then there's the next 10% of vtubers who're just "mid", as in, in a multi-hour stream they're at most able to make one, or maybe two on a good day, five-minute-segments of actually interesting entertaining content by random chance. They're basically only good for a clips' worth of length, but the rest of their whole streams are boring wastes of time.

And then there's the 90% that are just pure irredeemable shit (like in every form of media), that contribute nothing to the genre, and you'd have to be a braindad moron who's still "entertained" by the novelty value of "omg a live moving ANIME GIRL playing [shit game badly] on a stream I can interact with? Wow that's so funni and interesting haha I must watch!!!" to actually "enjoy" them, and you're probably a fucking loser with shit taste who has nothing better going on for him in life, so yeah sure go ahead and waste it on such substandard entertainment, you'll die alone anyway

>> No.39015169

>>39014973
kys

>> No.39015214

>>39010650
you dense shithead. as if there's no middle ground where you can watch streams for entertainment and also admire someone in a loving sense without expecting 'romantic relationships'.
no it has to be either normalfag TV watching or expecting to literally meet and fuck vtubers

>> No.39015986

>>39011210
Watch her streams, retard

>> No.39016024

>>39010650
I watched The Office the first time because it was entertaining
Why did I watch it the 30th time?

>> No.39016563

>>39015986
I do because she has a porn model and sex voice, but she's always a snoozefest

>> No.39016861

>>39016024
you were seeking a romantic relationship with dwight?

>> No.39016916

>>39016024
because you're a woman?

>> No.39017053

>>39014687
You've never watched Gura and it shows

>> No.39017093

gay

>> No.39017121

>>39010650
Yeah, me. But maybe I'm in a minority as I find the idea of a romantic relationship repulsive

>> No.39017154

>>39010650
Sounds like you took the blue pill, OP

>> No.39017221

>>39017053
That IS the humour she uses to sell herself though, you can tell she does it on purpose and that is what everyone clips, no one clips the moments where her actual good sense of humor comes through

>> No.39017483

>>39010650
Based
>b-but vtubers aren’t funny-
No, you’re just horribly bitter and desensitized

>> No.39017562
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>>39010650
I don't have any romantic feelings towards vtubers, I just don't find women flirting with men on stream entreating to watch. I also don't like how men look in 2D, cause I hate twinks.

>> No.39017659

>>39014973
Wow you wrote 4 entire paragraphs just to explain how you pull no bitches and stack no paper. 3/10 made me read.

>> No.39017709

>>39017562
That's fine. At least you don't freak out for weeks over 1 or 2 male collabs

>> No.39017717
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>>39010650
I would find this extremely unrelatable, why watch streamer (that plays worse than you) when you could be just be consuming anime, movies, VNs or actually playing games yourself. All a lot more engaging activities with a lot more production values and thought put into them.
There needs to be the parasocial aspect for it to be even remotely appealing, maybe not seeing them as your gf, but at least a friend that keeps you company.

>> No.39017792

>>39017562
>just playing video games together while cracking jokes
>AIEEEEEEEE THEY’RE FLIRTING
maybe if you knew what flirting actually looked like, you’d get a gf

>> No.39017833

sounds like cope to me, OP

>> No.39017921

>>39017717
Beyond the parasocial aspect with the streamer, I think belonging to a community and watching something together with other people has its own appeal that entertainment other than livestreaming can't provide

>> No.39018075
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>>39010650
you take the bluepill and you wake up in your bed thinking none of this happened
you take the redpill and i will show you how deep the social anxiety and depressive tubeviewer loneliness goes

>> No.39018134

>>39016861
Must be.
Really though, if you are going back to the same entertainment a lot it's because of love.
>>39017792
Doesn't seem like you know what flirting is

>> No.39018145

>>39018075
too real

>> No.39018154

>>39010650
>Women
>Entertaining
lol

You probably think people watch Pokimane because she's entertaining too

>> No.39018220

>>39017921
It's like being on /a/ watching the "meme show" of the season but on steroids, quite addicting

>> No.39018371

>>39018154
>some of the most famous youtubers are a swedish guy who makes funny noises and a obese american whose whole gimmick is stuffing his face and crying
you sound like a boomer trying to figure out what younger generations find entertaining

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>you kids don't know entertainment, back in my days we paid to watch a guy smash melons and 3 guys hit each other on stage and some weirdo pretending to talk with a dolly

>> No.39018493

>>39010650
Which is, both technically and practically, a mental illness and should be taken care of and not enabled.
Unfortunately we live in a society where money speaks more than the wellbeing of its members. That being said, even if I like watching chuubas and am well aware of the issues this industry is built on, I'll refuse unicorns no matter what.

>> No.39018558

>>39018493
don't rack your brain too hard trying to understand demographics that aren't aimed at you old tops

>> No.39018631

>>39018493
Have you tried producing enough T to be able to think like a functioning human being?
>Which is, both technically and practically, a mental illness and should be taken care of and not enabled.
No it is both technically and practically a false statement. DURR.
>hat being said, even if I like watching chuubas and am well aware of the issues this industry is built on, I'll refuse unicorns no matter what.
Do you even know the difference a gachikoi and a unicorn?
You should make your case as clear as possible so that everyone can be what you dislike, since that would be the wise decision based on how incorrect you are.

>> No.39018644

>>39018371
Men are entertaining and funny. Not women

>> No.39018656

>>39010650
They should take the red pill and join vsharts

>> No.39018692

>>39018644
women can be entertaining without being funny, you just don't understand why people watch them, think of it like going to the zoo or watching a guilty pleasure trashy reality tv

>> No.39018742

>>39014973
Truth

>>39015169
>>39017659
Struck a nerve on these two, kek

>> No.39018811

>>39017483
You will never be funny, roastie

>> No.39018851

>>39014973
based and true
I'm still entertained by my favorite untalented slut though

>> No.39018976

>>39011978
Name one entertainment that hasn't been tainted with sjw and/or trannies

>> No.39019097

>>39018976
>woodturning
>bowling
>fly fishing
>autocross
>target shooting
>sailing
if you only want to consoom media don’t be surprised when trannies show up to hang out with you

>> No.39019100

>>39018692
>watching a guilty pleasure trashy reality tv
Kill yourself femoid

>> No.39019134

>>39019097
Entertainment is things that are performed.

>> No.39019150

I'm pretending they're my friends, not girlfriends.

>> No.39019200

Seething /r9k/lets in this ITT.
You will never fuck your oshi. You will be alone forever. You will become a news story when you finally snap and lose your marbles.
Go back to you board.

>> No.39019252

>>39019134
Watch people do any of those things

>> No.39019256

>>39019200
No need to be upset with them, they just need a few doggo clips to awaken to the joys of women

>> No.39019275

>>39019150
t. disgusting watcher of m*les

>> No.39019299

>>39019252
You can just admit to being wrong anon, you're literally anonymous.

>> No.39019373

>>39019200
Let's assume you have sex. This means you're a roastie who will either become a bitter old cunt living with cats or rope when you realize no one will ever love you after you hit 30. Either way, you have no room to talk.

>> No.39019427

>>39019373
>Let's assume you have sex
Anon, why do you think he is upset?

>> No.39019569

>>39010650
I feel like people have disillusioned themselves into thinking this is true… it isn’t…

>> No.39019639

>>39019373
Who said anything about sex?

>> No.39019674

>>39019639
The post he was responding to

>> No.39019763

>there's people that treat vtubers as anything different to any generic streamer with a face cam up
lmafo
Fucking weeb.
There's literally no difference. Zero. Nada.
Your niche view of vtubing is hilarious if you treat them any differently.
Literally most vtubers simply replaced their face with an avatar, 3D at first then when L2D came out, that as well. That has been happening since before the term vtuber even existed and it still happens now. It is still the majority of vtubers out there.
Your feelings and denial don't matter, these are the facts. Cry about it.

>> No.39019840

>>39019763
Do some squats bro you're all emotional and shit

>> No.39019885

>>39011105
GSH

>> No.39019912

>>39019840
I done squats earlier actually.
But thank you for caring about my physical health.

>> No.39019932

>>39019763
You are right, which is why I can tell OP is disingenous.
Most vtubers are hard carried by their anime girl model.

>> No.39019943

>>39019912
Sure you did

>> No.39020094

>>39019943
You must be American. The fact you think exercise is hard is usually a good sign of that.

>> No.39020150

>>39020094
>I definitely did the thing
>That's why I feel the need to convince you
ogey

>> No.39020160

Hi Calli. Loved the new album, great job dude.

>> No.39020206

>>39020150
Yep. Called it.
Put the McDonalds down, fatty.

>> No.39020208

>>39014687
You talk like a twitterfag, you don't even watch stream. Make a reasonable lie next time.

>> No.39020293

>>39010650
You are not immune to parasocial interaction

>> No.39020317

>>39020206
Look I don't believe you have exercised. You're literally acting like a woman.
If you had exercised, you wouldn't act emotional about someone saying you haven't.

>> No.39020362

>>39012692
I think SAO is kinda shit, but that's a pretty baller move

>> No.39020374

>>39020293
And you don't know what parasocial means, just like retards that whine about it on Twitter or streams.
Parasocial can literally just be one-way friendships.
>>39020317
Who is acting emotional? kek, nice autism you have there bro.
Come on, you can do better than that.
Actually challenge my point instead of being an autist.

>> No.39020420

>>39020374
It's done bro you sperged out, if you do some squats you'll calm down.

>> No.39020498

>>39020420
Okay now you're just acting retarded.
Have fun with that. I'll care to respond to you when you actually have a point. (probably never, so have fun posting about 20 replies acting retarded)

>> No.39020523

>>39020498
?

>> No.39020667

>>39020374
>Parasocial can literally just be one-way friendships.
Yes

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>>39010650
You would be a incredible rare minority or like other anons said you are lying to yourself in someway. Women cannot compete in this industry solely on charisma or talent otherwise their audience would be a mix of females, males, kids and old ppl but that is not the case most of her fans if not all are young or adult men. They know they have to rely on gender attraction to succeed so they address, pander and interact with their viewers as if they were males and are genuinely surprised when they see a female fan. The only people who deny this are simps and roasties.

>> No.39020769

>>39020667
Which is what most people do when they watch TV, videos, etc.
It's a replacement for real interaction.
It's why soaps, reality TV, etc. are all so popular.

>> No.39020822

>>39020737
Touch grass, /r9k/ faggot.
Because most girls are funnier than you are.

>> No.39020940

>>39020769
>It's a replacement for real interaction.
>It's why soaps, reality TV, etc. are all so popular.
I dunno about that.
Socialising takes a lot of energy, you can be literally become tired from it.
I managed to watch 24 hours of Korone though, multiple times.

>> No.39020974

>no you can't find vtubers entertaining
>that's why you pretend that they're your girlfriend
why would I want a boring girlfriend???

>> No.39020977

>>39020769
>t's a replacement for real interaction.
>It's why soaps, reality TV, etc. are all so popular.
God women are pathetic. Even when they can go outside freely they still choose to sit in front of a screen and pretend people like them. Truly repulsive creatures.

>> No.39021007

>women
>entertaining

>> No.39021033

>>39020822
Kek, now that's a good joke. I bet you think Amy Schumer is hilarious.

>> No.39021066

>>39020974
Why are you pretending you have a choice?

>> No.39021125

>>39020940
So? its still emotionally fulfilling
You are becoming attached to that streamer building a one sided relationship

>> No.39021135

>>39021033
No, she's insufferable, just like most vtubers are.
>>39020940
That's why it is parasocial. It requires way less energy to maintain it.
It's passive socializing at best.

>> No.39021169

>>39019100
oh nigger please, you know boxing is just high brow version of trashy brawling, reality tv bullshit fights and drama is the same, the entertainment is to watch idiots act like idiots from the comfort and safety of your own couch

>> No.39021203

>>39021125
Sure but that's not what I was doubting. I was doubting it being a replacement or TV being a replacement for real interaction.
I get plenty of it. I don't need more of it. I don't want more of it.

>> No.39021323

>>39021169
>implying I watch that shit
Sorry I'm not a low IQ mouth breather like you. Keep on consooming your goyslop like a good little drone though.

>> No.39021400

>>39021323
>it's a fucking jew
why am i not surprised that the guy whose head is so far up his own ass he had to complain about trashy reality tv shows is the guy who makes them

>> No.39021468

>i don't enjoy what i create, i only create it to profit
i guess that's why everything you create is shit by default and the stuff that is actually good happened to be so by coincidence

>> No.39021492

>>39021135
>It's passive socializing at best.
Maybe but if I come home tired after a long day, it's probably because I had to deal with more people than I normally do.
I would still want to watch entertainment after that, the people on the screen talking isn't going to affect my energy.

>> No.39021544

>>39021492
Even if I was in love with them.

>> No.39021923

>>39021492
I know how you feel, I'm the same.
I generally like being myself, but I'm not like deathly allergic to being around others, even playing games / board games / exploring places, whatever it was I was fine, but it was mentally draining.
I was always that one person that had MSN / skype or others set to busy so no cunt would expect instant replies, either that or idle.

>> No.39021967

>>39011231
Pekora, Watame and Botan for me.

>> No.39022043

>>39010650
i do but only because i'm a wretched human being and i know these girls would rather light themselves on fire than spend 10 seconds with me

>> No.39022069

>>39021400
Goyslop isn't used by jews, retard

>> No.39022080

>>39011231
Pekora, Gura, Kiara

>> No.39022157

>>39021967
Botan is good at games and pekora can be entertaining but watame is definitely not.

>> No.39022205

>>39022043
At least you're honest

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>>39011231
Polka is genuinely funny on both sides of the manzai coin, plus PolDen and all her songs/covers makes for incredibly enjoyable entertainment.

>> No.39022274

>>39022080
>Gura, Kiara
Gura is debatable
Kiara is your incredibly shit taste(you're probably a dyke)

>> No.39022315

>>39020094
My man… if you aren’t struggling when you exercise then you’re doing it wrong… the entire point of exercise is to push yourself, that’s how you improve, if you aren’t struggling then you aren’t trying hard enough which defeats the purpose of exercise in the first place

>> No.39022321

>>39022208
>simp pretending he's not

>> No.39022493

>>39018644
Based, the problem is that female vtubers are cute which counteracts the fact that most of them aren’t funny… male vtubers are often times funnier but the mere concept of a man pretending to be an anime boy isn’t cute… it’s cringy which totally ruins it, they could be the funniest person on the planet but male vtubers ae too cringy for me to actually enjoy them

>> No.39022536

>>39022321
Buddy, I already have a wife and have no need of delusional relationships with virtual avatars. Just because you can't understand the humor or appreciate music doesn't make it untrue.

>> No.39022630

>>39022157
I like her weird japanese ben and I think her karaokes are the best in holo, I love her vocal range. And for what its worth I enjoyed her ff9 series also she was my first holo so i may be a little biased

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>>39019763
Why is this the only sane take on this tumor of a thread?

>> No.39022760

>>39022536
Kinda sad your wife can't provide that social connection for you. Will probably end up cheating on you.

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I just like watching streams of people playing video games I'm interested in. I never really cared about watching girl streamers until vtubers. Wanting to fuck them and their designs is fine, they get all that porn for a reason. Wanting to actively seek a relationship, and tricking your brain into thinking you're in a relationship with a vtuber is genuinely retarded and is in no way healthy.

I actually find it incredibly outrageous that you'd watch these streamers exclusively to fall in love. Not for any minor entertainment in any category, no, simply to fall in love. That's weird and you should go workout and get your shit together. Jerk off and get it out of your system.

>> No.39023022

>>39022274
Why don't you like Kiara, anon? Why don't you want to be assimilated into KFP?

>> No.39023461

It is just one extreme to another with you fucking retards.

People watch vtubers because they like otaku culture and live streaming. That's it. The end.

You like video games, live streams and cute anime girls and therefore will watch an amalgamation of that.
It is not complex at all.

Stop making a mountain out of a molehill

>> No.39023531

>>39022315
>exercise is only intense, you can't do light exercise, reeee, stop it, my gym guy will get mad at you!
I bet you actually go to the gym as well, faglord.

>> No.39023577

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

>> No.39023659

>>39022954
>watching streamers instead of just playing the game yourself
You might to take a look in the mirror, you fucking loser

>> No.39023709

>>39023022
I don't hate her or anything but saying she is entertaining without any parasocial stuff involved is incredibly foolish.

>> No.39023748

>>39023461
Nice reddit take, retard

>> No.39023802

>>39011105
>Ironically, Gura is one of those that can carry themselves without that fantasy because she's funny enough to do that
No

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>>39023659
Do your push ups bro.

>> No.39023994

>>39017717
If you enjoy those things more you should do those things more instead.

>> No.39024008

>>39010650
For the longest time I couldn't understand why people watched gaming streams instead of playing it yourself. That also can be said with e-thots. Finding some wholesome streamers that were just entertaining made me see the light.

>> No.39024055

>>39010650
Cool. So why are you crying and shitting up the board as soon as your oshi collabs with a person of the opposite sex?

>> No.39024060

>>39023748
nta
you say that as though takes /here/ have any value whatsoever

>> No.39024158

>>39024055
Nice projection, retard.

>> No.39024160

>>39023748
what does that even mean i dont go to fucking r*ddit

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Bros this is mega depressing.

>> No.39024229

>>39010650
Well, I guess it's a step up from your typical seasonal anime trash..

>> No.39024273

>>39024229
how wtf? Watching a vtuber because of loneliness is peak degeneracy.

>> No.39024429

>>39024273
What do you think degeneracy means? It would be degenerate to send them a picture of your junk and blame it on being lonely.

>> No.39024452

>>39024273
I mean in the sense of entertainment

>> No.39024967

>>39024273
Stop projecting what you do on to others.

>> No.39024998

>>39024429
I don't know his understanding of degeneracy, but it is quite degenerate to seek romance from a streamer while being nothing more than a coomer. Since you will coom to your oshi.

>> No.39025011

>>39024452
Ah ok that's not degenerate.
>>39024429
If you substitute having irl relationships with watching vtubers then yeah you are a turbo degenerate and you should change your ways.

>> No.39025106

>>39024998
>seek romance
If people are doing that, it's such a minority it's bizarre that you even think of it.
And it still isn't degeneracy in the slightest.
>>39025011
Diddums

>> No.39025165

>>39024998
exactly
>>39024967
I didn't know what a vtuber was until I opened this filthy board

>> No.39025186

>>39025165
>I didn't know what a vtuber was until I opened this filthy board
mega cringe

>> No.39025258

>>39010650
Imagine not being able to use the streams as escapism and enjoy the small bit of time where your oshi streams, having some sort of connection when it's happening, and then when they aren't streaming going back to your daily life. The matrix comparison is fair, people in the matrix (the people who seek romantic relationship) are deluded at all times and never leave the mindset, and people who do not live in the matrix (never plug in) will never know what it's like. The ability to plug in and unplug after is great, and I feel sorry for everyone who can't. I enjoy my power.

>> No.39025264

>>39025106
It's not that small a minority. Some splits are dominated by people who only care about seeing their oshi as their romantic partner

>> No.39025310

>>39025264
Jesus christ.
When I say "I miss Fauna" it's a joke anon

>> No.39025494

>>39010650
Those people are called grey names anon and they have no value other than being dead subs to pad out mile stone counts for merch

>> No.39025544

>>39025186
How is that cringe?
>>39025106
>If people are doing that, it's such a minority it's bizarre that you even think of it.
Bro that's what this thread is about, read what OP wrote. And yeah it's a minority.

>And it still isn't degeneracy in the slightest.
Ok whatever. Losers, basement dwellers call them whatever you want. Maybe degenerate is not the exactly right word but I feel that it's fitting.

>> No.39025555

>>39025494
>you need to be mentally ill to be a member.
Must feel bad being a poorfag where membering a girl on the interwebs is meaningful to you is your cope.

>> No.39025595

>>39025544
>read what OP wrote. And yeah it's a minority.
it would be a minority of a minority.
>How is that cringe?
It is literally the exact same as saying you learned what football is from a meme

>> No.39026234

>>39025595
>it would be a minority of a minority.
True. Still it's why OP made this post.
>It is literally the exact same as saying you learned what football is from a meme
What? Not knowing what football means that you are a basement dwelling faggot. Not knowing what a vtuber is means you are a normal person(the fact I got to know what it is on a imageboard is a different matter)

>> No.39026282

>>39026234
>What? Not knowing what football means that you are a basement dwelling faggot. Not knowing what a vtuber is means you are a normal person(the fact I got to know what it is on a imageboard is a different matter)
You're missing the point. If you learned football from a meme and not from being outside as a child, then you don't really understand football.

>> No.39026336

>>39011052
Based.

>> No.39026771

>>39025555
>you need to be mentally ill to be a member.
Unironically yes.
There's no other logical explanation, members streams are always top parasocial tomfoolery, only mentally unwell gachikoi would ever entertain the thought of joining a chuuba membership.
Entertainment seeking greychads will always torrent whatever entertaining stream happens behind the paywall, if they ever happens that is.

>> No.39026836

>>39026771
>There's no other logical explanation
It increases the amount of money they receive on a regular basis

>> No.39026843

>>39026771
greychads are just mentally ill in a different way to parasocial fools

>> No.39027022

>>39026282
Not understanding vtubers is based.
But because I am kind of terminally online, even tho I am not a vtuber watcher I kind of understand otaku people and the associated faggotry.
Anyways my point was that people that watch vtubers for this reason are losers. People who watch vtubers in general are kind of weird but whatever.

>> No.39027068

>>39027022
You just have no credibility and the fact you're giving out your opinion like it's valuable, makes you a loser.

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>>39010650
That person? Me.
I'm enjoying the Vesper the White arc.

>> No.39027108

>>39026836
These are facts, even if membership if probably the least optimal way to achieve this.
>>39026843
Greys vs Greens is special olympics all things considered.

>> No.39027126

>>39014973
If you're claiming that almost 100% of the vtubing sphere is shit, then it follows that whoever (You) are watching is also shit. So why are you even watching? This isn't the own that you think it is.

>> No.39027158

>>39027022
>don't watch vtubers
>heads to the vtuber board to scroll through the catalog for bait threads to talk about how people do are soooo weird and cringe
You are a patent liar.

>> No.39027244

>>39027068
I am not giving my opinion because I think it's valuable but because I wanted to see if anyone would get triggered by me calling people who watch vtubers as a substitution for irl relationships losers.
I mean you don't need to be very knowledgeable to know that someone who needs to watch shitty japanese barbie girl renders to satisfy his social needs is some kind of weirdo.

>> No.39027293

>>39027158
last time I checked it was called b8ing

>> No.39027298

>>39027244
Same thing virgin

>> No.39027422

>>39013047
Yep. Trannies trying to gaslight people into thinking women can be naturally entertaining. Did any of you people watch female twitch streamers before vtubers? Of course not because they were all fucking garbage coomerbait and now you have soifags trying to say "Hey guys you should watch vtubers for the entertainment" kek

>> No.39027484

>>39010650
I'd believe you since I'm one of them.
Though I rarely actually watch them since I find most of the content vtubers produce to be pretty bland on its own.

>> No.39027494

>>39027422
>Of course not because they were all fucking garbage coomerbait
That's the websites fault

>> No.39027561

Is this dump of thread still fucking going??

>> No.39027570

>>39013047
>their standard for entertainment is really low that they can find watching a woman doing mundane shit for hours almost everyday as a viable source of entertainment
Man I wonder what that means about people watching vtubers for """intimacy""" reasons if its not considered entertainment.

>> No.39027601

>>39027561
Bothered by the constant reminder that your oshi doesn't care about you?

>> No.39027752

>>39027601
my oshi is gura
that's par for the course

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>spend years as a shutin on 4chan
>read tons of greentexts about how women are awful/unfunny/boring
>become depressed because of it
>vtubers start showing up online
>didnt get it at first but decided to give it a try
>theyre actually funny and share the same interests as me and make me wanna learn more about them
>dont feel so depressed anymore
im just glad to know interesting girls are out there
although now i have a weird girl fetish so...yeah

>> No.39028287

>>39028224
>listens to greentexts
>believes professional liars
anon maybe do your brain reps

>> No.39028315

>>39010650
>this board
>watching streams
Ngmi

>> No.39028323

>>39028224
Seems like the lesson is to base opinions on experience

>> No.39028393

>>39027561
This thread is your daily reminder that she will never be your gf.
>>39028224
When your perception of women is based on greentexts and vtubers something is very wrong.

>> No.39028428

>>39010650
I used to believe this but the fans of male vtubers on this board have rapidly proven themselves to be far more parasocial than the people who waifu their oshi. Tempusfags are more parasocial than Luxiemsisters. Pretty much no one is actually watching for anything except relationship simulator when they elaborate on why they watch someone.

>> No.39028484

>>39022760
Kinda sad you equate vtubers to "social connections" rather than the equivalent of watching TV.

>> No.39028490

>>39022954
>>39023461
Pretty much these. If you discovered vtubers for any reason other than "I like(d) anime", you're doing it wrong.

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>>39028484
Must consoom japanese barbie girl wife

>> No.39028969

>>39028428
No one cares about women's problems.

>> No.39028973

>>39028880
Seething

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>>39028973
sneeding, if you will

>> No.39029217

90% of the time when someone tries to explain why their vtuber is good it boils down to parasocial reasons. I challenge anyone who thinks they're not parasocial to explain why they like their oshi without it being parasocial in nature

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>>39028224
>trusting an entertainer's fantasy
>even more so because they are a 2D avatar
>forgetting there is a 3DPD behind it
nigga what the fuck are you doing?

>> No.39029345

>>39028224
The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human being to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in “advanced” countries. The industrial-technological system may survive or it may break down. If it survives, it MAY eventually achieve a low level of physical and psychological suffering, but only after passing through a long and very painful period of adjustment and only at the cost of permanently reducing human beings and many other living organisms to engineered products and mere cogs in the social machine. Furthermore, if the system survives, the consequences will be inevitable: There is no way of reforming or modifying the system so as to prevent it from depriving people of dignity and autonomy. If the system breaks down the consequences will still be very painful. But the bigger the system grows the more disastrous the results of its breakdown will be, so if it is to break down it had best break down sooner rather than later. We therefore advocate a revolution against the industrial system. This revolution may or may not make use of violence; it may be sudden or it may be a relatively gradual process spanning a few decades. We can’t predict any of that. But we do outline in a very general way the measures that those who hate the industrial system should take in order to prepare the way for a revolution against that form of society. This is not to be a POLITICAL revolution. Its object will be to overthrow not governments but the economic and technological basis of the present society. In this article we give attention to only some of the negative developments that have grown out of the industrial-technological system. Other such developments we mention only briefly or ignore altogether. This does not mean that we regard these other developments as unimportant. For practical reasons we have to confine our discussion to areas that have received insufficient public attention or in which we have something new to say. For example, since there are well-developed environmental and wilderness movements, we have written very little about environmental degradation or the destruction of wild nature, even though we consider these to be highly important.

>> No.39029356

>>39027494
Name one good female fleshstreamer on Youtube

>> No.39029407

>>39028224
>he takes greentexts seriously
holy fuck bro lmao
Touch something else green instead.

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>>39029407
cringe

>> No.39029675

Why don't they just watch movies? The Matrix is like two hours long and has left a cultural impression far greater than some Japanese girls with hundreds of thousands of hours in Minecraft.

>> No.39029846

>>39011105
That better fits Nyanners if anything

>> No.39030176

>>39028484
Kinda sad you don't realize that you are suppressing social need with vtubers.
Also, parasociality is literally a term that comes from TV watchers.

>> No.39030240

>>39010650
What if I told you that some people don't seek a romantic relationship but also don't want dudes on their oshi's stream regardless?
Because that's the moral gray area I move in, personally. I don't care what my oshi sticks up her honey pot when she's offline as long as she can control herself online.

>> No.39030283

>>39028490
I discovered vtubers because I like watching other people play videogames.

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