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I BELIEVE IN A CHRISTMAS MIRACLE
it hurts so much

>> No.38969624

>>38969584
Include Tempus or no deal UNITY OR BUST.

>> No.38969642

>>38969584
Sad to think Bae and Fauna are the only ones streaming around Christmas.

>> No.38969669

>>38969624
let it be bust then

>> No.38969671

>>38969584
Man is this really the worst year of HoloEN uh?

>> No.38969745
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>> No.38969810
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>gurame dead
>takamori dead
>ina dead
I don't believe.

>> No.38969905

This is going to end up like those photos of the WW2 vets having a meet up every year that gets down to one person.

>> No.38970017

>>38969810
It's strange to say, but Takamori is more alive than it was a year ago. Heaps of nice interactions, genuine friendly appreciation from both sides, Mori even invited Kiara to a collab which is new. I can't believe I'm saying this but I am excited for the eventual offcollab streams in the new year.

>> No.38970421

All fault is from Cover

>> No.38970459
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>>38969584
People always cry that "the magic is gone now". But can you blame them when the talents don't even make an effort to do stuff together anymore? EN Christmas 2020 was SOVL, 2021 was wholesome, 2022 is just sad.

>> No.38970472

its sad but that's just life, nothing lasts forever. Time to let go...

>> No.38970535

>>38969745
Really sad that fauna is all alone out in that snowy field

>> No.38970712

>>38970017
>I am excited for the eventual offcollab streams in the new year.
where they rekindle their lust for one another and vigorously shlick their beans in tandem while staring passionately into each others eyes

>> No.38971180

>>38969624
Homobeggars are getting really uppity, huh?

>> No.38971294

>>38969584
If Amelia is in charge of it again she will add Tempiss. So it's for the best that this not happen.
Most of the Gura faction probably refused it in advance too.

>> No.38971487

>>38970459
>Gura breaking down in tears over finally finding a group.
Where is that person now. Won't give collabs the time of the day.

>> No.38971596

>>38971487
seems like it wasnt the group for her after all

>> No.38971658

>>38971294
she mentioned she will be back with a surprise so i won't be surprised if it does happen

>> No.38971692

>>38971487
It wasn't this group, it was SNOT.

>> No.38971850

>>38971294
Is Tempus and troons all you fuckers think about?

>> No.38971933

>>38971850
These people are permanently in a state of thinking about males. It's weird as fuck.

>> No.38972123

>>38971487
It's not just her, every one of them act above it all now. The D-list celebrity status got to their heads.

>> No.38972164

I want to believe

>> No.38972260

>>38969745
>>38970459
i can't believe all of EN graduated from holiday collabs

i'm about to breakdown, it really is over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz_NxOF7RB4

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This is the end
Hold your breath and count to ten
Feel the earth move and then
Hear my heart burst again
For this is the end
I've drowned and dreamt this moment
So overdue, I owe them
Swept away, I'm stolen

Let the sky fall

>> No.38973426

>>38969584
I'm gonna laugh so hard if Tempiss is in the 2022

>> No.38973532

>>38973426
They'll probably do one, but it'll be on their server.

>> No.38973665

>>38971933
Its because hes obviously gay. Like hard gay. Tempus members dating girls for chili recipes hunting with boar spears and ignoring stab wounds scares the beta males

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>>38969671
You think its going to get better?

>> No.38975029

>>38969584
>>38969745
"Holoen family" btw
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.38975648

>>38969745
A-at least it can't get any worse than this...

>> No.38976442

>>38969745
>minecrafthurtnoises.wav
It hurts because it's true.

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>>38971294
Considering barely anyone wanted to come to her Halloween event she might.

>> No.38976589

There is some very obvious cattiness and unprofessionalism behind the scenes. One faction wants to cater to the fans. The other wants to suck Tempus dick.

>> No.38977091

>>38969745
a at least it won't be tempiss there
r right unicorns CHADS

>> No.38977454

>>38969671
It had a decent Spring and Summer, but ever since Sana's graduation they all kind of collapsed a bit

>> No.38977516

>>38969584
>mori showing off her panties
wow

>> No.38978017

>>38971294
As if any of the girls would put someone aas lazy, unimaginative and social inept as Gura in some sort of leadership position. LMAO Gura is alone my friend.

>> No.38978134

>>38969584
Unironically we might only see Bae, Fauna and Mori do the christmas collab this year, sad.

>> No.38978231

>>38969624
Fuck you and tempus.

>> No.38978360

>>38976589
What factions?
Kiara would side with Mori and Ame
Irys would side with Mori and Bae
Council will pretty much stick together
Gura is basically the only one alone here

>> No.38978461

>>38978360
>i gotta explain because a tempiss wants to play stupid

>> No.38978676

>>38978461
Oh yeah those girls who do / dont collab with boys sure do seem to hate each other /s

>> No.38978722

>>38978676
Ignore them. They make up this imaginary war to shit up the board everyday.

>> No.38979364

>>38971850
they think about male piss everyday of the week if you wanna add that too. Definition of rent free.

>> No.38979462

>>38973665
starting to think the old man is actually a vampire

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>>38969745
An empty tree in an empty snow covered field is asking too much. There will not be snow, and there will not be a tree.
Best we can do is a Christmas bus sign and some extra sand to take home for Christmas.

>> No.38980033

they're all out sick, been sucking too much tempus chad dick, no christmas this year

>> No.38980335

>>38969584
Actually sad

>> No.38980517

>>38969624
fuck off you literal faggot

>> No.38980660

>>38971294
Why not get Tempus? At least they want to turn up. Plus it gives Gura the excuse she needs to skip out on that stream. It's a win-win

>> No.38981354

>>38969584
Back when they had SVOL and actually gave a shit, now everybody gets """sick""" all at the same time right when the holidays start. I'm sticking with my Tempus ruined unity rrat because that's when the atmosphere started turning really dull for EN.

>> No.38981623

>>38981354
Not just dull, but viewers felt obligated to feel like assholes just for not wanting to watch them.

>> No.38981894

>>38981623
You're not obligated to watch them and none of the girls are shilling them at all. You're only assholes for dunking on a bunch of guys who had nothing to do with them in the first place

>> No.38981992

>>38981894
>you're not assholes
> BUT YOU ARE
see?

>> No.38982324

The miracle is that tempus will be there.

>> No.38982434

>nijien graduations/drama with mysta/crappy debuts
>holoen imploding in retarded ways
>small companies very aggressively trying to fill the void and scoop up disgruntled viewers
Truly the end of vtubing vshojo are not vtubers they are fleshwhores with avatars

>> No.38982528

>>38981992
You are an asshole for seething about tempus in the first place, but amelia and mori and the others are assholes for shilling tempus way too much. I am the only one who is not an asshole because I don't care and can therefore be impartial. I should be paid for this.

>> No.38982596

>>38981354
Might've been an one-two punch situation. Sana's graduation already fucked their morale and Tempus debut was a mistake because half of the group doesn't want to interact with them. They really needed an EN3 to help with the current mood, but Cover/Yagoo/Omega thought it was a better idea to bet literally everything on StarsEN.

>> No.38983074

>>38981894
>roberu and nightmea got it right despite EXTREME flirting
>SUDDENLY BACKFIRES with "dude we're just friends, k?"
gee what could it be?

>> No.38983154

>>38982528
Uh huh. Keep going. You're just proving my point.

>> No.38983391

>>38982434
>small companies very aggressively trying to fill the void and scoop up disgruntled viewers
And just like the Production Kawaii drama yesterday showed, disgruntled holofans are fucking up those small corpo communities and pissing off the talents.
We need EN vtubing on all sides to fall apart, so it can be reborn. EN vtubing is rotten at its core.

>> No.38983925

>>38981992
It's true though. You can't stop thinking about homo dick that you have to make it everyone's problem when some of us don't wanna hear it.

>> No.38983990

>>38969584
HoloEN existed in 2020?

>> No.38984012

>>38982596
Luxiem's success has been a disaster for Hololive and Nijisanji. The only reason EN3 got shelved this year was because Omega wanted to replicate their success.

>> No.38984134

>>38983925
>y-your GAY if you do-don't wnat to s-see men in a show!
lol

>> No.38984158

>>38984012
Are you still believing that a literal puppet with no strings is responsible? Lemao

>> No.38984175

>>38983391
That's what happens when your community is based on 4chan

>> No.38984270

>>38984134
>The point is to ignore Tempus instead of giving them attention like the faggots that shill them
>"Your gay if you don't want to see men in a show"
It's you're* and I accept your concession.

>> No.38984343

>>38984270
>fixing greentext
Underage.

>> No.38984388

>>38983154
>autism can't take jokes
You feel offended because you need meds. Specifically lsd.

>> No.38984910

>>38981992
>Tempus literally does anything
>hurr durr I hate tempiss
>seething intensifies
I don't wanna hear that shit, go be a manchild somewhere else rent free faggot

>> No.38985040

>>38984343
>actually underaged

>> No.38985083

>>38984012
Absolutely, and it boggles my mind how people refuse to believe this. Cover fucking rushed to get a male gen, to the point they were literally begging for guys to apply barely 3 months after they started the open auditions. And it's fucked up how HoloEN was the first time Cover took control of their own future and stopped copying literally everything Anycolor was doing with Nijisanji, and they were actually considered Indian and Korean branches at the start of 2020, just to completely relapse 2 years later and commit the same mistake of wanting a piece of every possible market. The big difference this time is that they didn't have a good number of Hololive members and a new gen on the cusp of debuting like they had back in 2019 when the first Holostars gen debuted, so now HoloEN is falling apart, starting tomorrow we only have 3 confirmed active members, who knows if there will be enough members for the New Year celebrations and HoloLIVE EN3 is still nowhere to be seen.

>> No.38985176

>>38969584
No. They failed to gather 3 women for a mc stream. It's over

>> No.38985313

>>38970712
Deadbros cucked yet again...

>> No.38985470

>>38984270
>>38984388
>>38984910
>>38985040
>I'M NOT SEETHING YOU'RE SEETHING

>> No.38986344

>>38976458
A fellow Pomudachi.

>> No.38986815

>>38985083
You do know Holostars and Hololive auditions are different, right? If there's no EN3 that means that the candidates who signed up for those auditions are not up to standard or they don't mesh well with each other. Got to get in a new gen somehow, Tempus was the backup.

>> No.38986871

>>38971180
>>38978231
>>38980517
You're replying to a shitposter

>> No.38987117

>>38986815
Holy cope. You seriously believe that Cover couldn't get 5 good picks out of the tens of thousands of auditions they receive? Are you such a coverdrone to believe in this imaginary and poorly defined Hololive standard when we fucking had Sana?

>> No.38987355

>>38987117
Sana shows that the well has dried up and there's no more good talent

>> No.38987577

>>38987117
>You seriously believe that Cover couldn't get 5 good picks out of the tens of thousands of auditions they receive?
Yes actually. Do you know how many vtubers have skeletons in their closet? Do you know how many of those vtubers even want to stream? If they like each other enough to warrant some form of unity? Why do you think EN3 took so long? Were they willing to follow Cover protocol by following their rules and conditions? Most of these female chuubas barely pass individually, how much more if they're in a group together for the long haul? I don't want another gen of lazy bitches.
This guy >>38987355 pretty much summed it up.

>> No.38987734

>>38969584
2021 was so shit...

>> No.38987961

I’ll be honest. I never liked holoen. But I really wish they at least tried and gave me something to work with.
I’m tired of my indie Oshi and her small community is overrun with trannies.

I just wish I could latch on to a holoen girl and get lost in the crowd for a bit and just draw some fanart. But they’re all either dead, boring, or Mori

>> No.38987992

>>38987355
Oh yeah, the well dried not even a year after Myth's debut, sure. You coverdrones are genuinely insane. Not to mention the people they got for Tempus are really good, right? A generic Asian soft boy and a wannabe shitposter who's more interested in clout chasing popular circles on Twitch. Such quality picks here.

>>38987577
>Why do you think EN3 took so long
Because Cover is highly incompetent and unable to create an actual project for the branch after the massive success of Myth. They should've release EN2 at a much earlier time in 2021 and by now we should've been waiting for EN4. And don't you fucking dare call me a nijinig accelerationist when that would be 15 to 20 members in 27 months, which is actually lower than how many members HoloJP had on the same amount of time. You people are brain dead to believe the 10 we have now are the only good members available out there and that HoloEN is at a healthy state.

>> No.38988094

>>38987577
Do you realize how many 2 views are out there who have streamed multiple times a week for years? There’s quite a few and while some might have issues here and there, they have consistency and talent that put most of holoen to shame. If cover wanted they could easy talent scout and poach some of these girls. Instead they made a shitty male branch because niji has one

>> No.38988659

>>38988094
problem is a handful of those 2views got into Hololive, streamed for a few months, and then lost their motivation. A lot of those 2views are motivated by the climb. And the whole point of getting into Hololive is about avoiding the climb and just starting on the top of the mountain and going from there. But in order for a vtuber to be truly productive for Cover, they need to honestly love streaming

>> No.38988875

>>38987992
>You people are brain dead to believe the 10 we have now are the only good members available out there and that HoloEN is at a healthy state.
anon... the audition process for Hololive is not as easy as you think. Niji clearly doesn't do double background checks or callbacks,.

>> No.38989039

>>38987992
>A generic Asian soft boy and a wannabe shitposter who's more interested in clout chasing popular circles on Twitch. Such quality picks here.
did you even watch the streams or did you just get your info from this place?

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>>38979717
Small change.

>> No.38989279

>>38971658
50% chance that smol Tempus will be the surprise

>> No.38989291

>>38988875
And we still got Sana. Wow, so fucking hard that we got an artist that didn't want to do art streams. Yeah, I'm sure Cover has this amazing scouting power and we the only reason we don't have an EN3 is because everyone fucking suck. God you fuckers are stupid.

>>38989039
Here comes the Tempus shill. Yeah, I fucking tried because unlike 99% of you fucks I actually watched StarsJP before. And I'm sorry but other than Vesper you boys all fucking suck, with Axel only saving himself because he's good at singing.

>> No.38989434

>>38988659
A few maybe but the track records of the girls they got weren’t that amazing.
Get a few of the 3 views and sicc them on gura so they still have something to try and numberfag for. Literally anything is better than what they have now.

How someone like ina got in still blows my mind. Sure she’s a good artist but being a good artist is completely irrelevant for everything hololive does. She’s an absolute dogshit streamer and it’s not like she has any musical talent.
At least ame and gura I can see just being unfortunate burnouts after 2 years.
And who knows what the fuck happened with council.

With irys and kiara it’s not even a 20% success rate.

>> No.38989725

>>38988875
Easy or not it’s not working. The audition process is clearly flawed and not sorting for the proper talents. Not that cover gives a shit

>> No.38989842

>>38982434
NijiEN graduation, singular.
The debuts went fine as well
Also you might not wanna hear this, but Sana is WHY, EN3 isnt a thing still, do you really think Cover wants a repeat of that? Hire someone, give them quite possibly the best papa in all of vtubing all for the "talent" to throw it all away?

What a fucking waste she was.

>> No.38990092

>>38989842
>Sana
>best papa
Come on nijifag surely not even you believe this

>> No.38990181

>>38969584
The glory days are gone. Face the music and watch streams. Or lack thereof. It's over for HoloEN

>> No.38990318

>>38990092
100%, Pako loved her dearly.

>> No.38990571

>>38989842
Cover was the reason Sana happened. They're the ones who bet on another barely-stramer-pro-artist just because Ina knew her. Not in a million of years she would be chosen through normal auditions, but because of her friendship and how Ina managed to build up a pretty strong audience Cover thought the same would happen to her, but the retarded decided that she wouldn't do art streams not long after debut and thought it would be a good idea to focus her attention on fucking astrology streams. If they're so scared for another Sana maybe they shouldn't nepohire girls who weren't established streamers before.

>> No.38990622

>>38990318
Should have done a better job then

>> No.38990921 [DELETED] 

Skipping Christmas stream is fine. But cover should just give what everyone wants. An onahole merch for every member.

>> No.38991034

>>38990622
How is Pakos fault that his vtuber daughter didnt care about Hololive.
Thats on her, she probably thought she could juggle both jobs and failed.

>> No.38991152

>>38990921
This except only for the adult members. Gura and Bae should get cute stuff animals because that way their fans get something they’d enjoy too

>> No.38991269 [DELETED] 

>>38991152
Gura and Bae is not a child!!

>> No.38991567

>>38969624
>>38969669
They will never, ever have all member collabs because of you people.

>> No.38992415

>>38971487
ame hates her, mori is an idol hating wigger, kiara is a kraut autist and ina is dead

>> No.38993807

>>38969584
At first I thought the geographical scattering is what hurts them the most when it comes to togetherness/unity. Watching JP or ID offcollabs shows how severely lacking HoloEN is in that department.

But then none of them actively tried to overcome that hurdle or at least mitigate it.

>> No.38994215

>>38991269
THEY NEED CORRECTION, MULTIPLE TIMES.
IN THE PRESS POSITION.

>>38993807
streamer houses are ghey.

>> No.38994242

>>38973532
Tempus will have their own celebration separate from HoloEN, but it'll be livelier than whatever HoloEN has for this year.

>> No.38994750

>>38994242
Tempus isn't planning on any Christmas party event.
>Vesper is getting dragged away by his parents to spend Christmas together
>Axel is in Japan having a family reunion and spend Christmas

>> No.38994898

>>38969584
It's over anon.

>> No.38996617

>>38971294
>>38976458
>>38980660
Nah, I don't think she will. I heard that she's trying to avoid collabs with only Tempus members. The tournament was different because it had other girls. I highly doubt she would do collabs with Tempus members when there are no other girls.

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the root of the problems will back to gura no matter how you want to denied it.
>not willing to cooperate for big events
>doesn't respond to other member DMs
>give false hope to chumbuds and EN members with her promises
>make other EN members lying to cover her ass with lame excuses such as busy, sick etc.
chumbuds will defend this lazy bitch behaviour and call me anti when I just want EN girls to constantly collabs outside their cliques.
it's that fucking hard huh, goomba.
fuck you cunnyshart for brokes the EN bonds with your laziness.

>> No.38996903

>>38973532
I believe this, also ID might be there too.

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>>38969584
At least it can't get any BETTER

>> No.38998852

>>38994750
So you are saying that tempiss is litteraly skipping their first christmas? what a waste, LMAO RUMAO

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>>38984012
I wish that disgusting wave and everything after it never happened. Compared to 2021 I feel like I stepped into a hell dimension.

>> No.39001551

>>38969624
>Include Tempus or no deal
no deal

>> No.39003071

>>38969584
no EN3

>> No.39003499

>>39003071
Going back and reading how convinced basically everyone was that it was due in July is depressing at this point. EN is struggling to stay afloat right now.

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>>38969584
>2022
>it will be an offcollab
>tempus is there
>ina and gura are not cause they never stream
>mori brings a lot of booze
>most of them get really drunk
>kiara and fauna get tired of baby sitting the others and just fade into the background
>chat dares kronii and the fag to kiss
>they do it
>the stream gets chaotic and the quiet ones leave without causing much of a scene

>> No.39004405

>>39003499
And it's doubling depressing how everyone hoped they would come out in October/November. Cover completely missed their mark this year and it'll cost them. They need to debut a new gen for yesterday because the longer they wait the more likely they'll have to deal with another graduation and HoloEN having 9 instead of 10 members. It's extremely unlikely that the branch will leave 2023 with Myth and CouncilRyS intact, so they really need an EN3 to counteract this.

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>> No.39005663

>>38989291
>I actually watch StarsJP
>me when I lie
kek, no you don't

>> No.39005713

>>39004405
Yeah, it's hard to even speculate what the reason could be when growth for Vtubing is still there, I just wonder if they're either losing confidence in EN at the moment, or that the roster of EN at the moment is just so volatile that they're waiting for things to shake out a bit.
It's really hard to guess, but oh yeah, they've missed their mark by quite a bit. Things are way too rough right now in EN with nothing else to keep people's minds off the situation other than watching other region girls.

>> No.39005716

>>38969584
They probably will come out with some collab "surprise" that is supposed to make up for months of low to no streams

>> No.39005851

>>38985470
the triggered tranny replies
don't u got some degenerate garbage eating to do land whale?

>> No.39005901

>>39005716
But the problem from that is how quickly things will go back to how they've been. People will forget fairly quickly, but weeks of radio silence will just dredge this feeling up and make it worse. I really don't get the disconnect with the way communication is handled. For example, if Ina never said she'd keep in touch on twitter from time to time, I'd be more fine with it than her going months at a time without any kind of update.
If she's either so ill that she's incapable of tweeting or that Cover itself is having her not attend to anything Hololive related remains to be seen. Not going to tin foil about her potentially leaving, just really questioning why so many of them really just downright suck at communication or that Cover isn't allowing it. Either way, it's dumb.

>> No.39005934

>>38989434
>How someone like ina got in still blows my mind
doesn't know ina is a gamer
doesn't know she plays hard games, and quite decent at that too
monster hunger, dark souls etc etc
and a added bonus she's a great artist.

>> No.39006019

>>39005901
It is pretty weird, no doubt. It's not like phones don't exist so they could tweet. It's crazy how different JPs are, a bunch of them basically vlog about their lives

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>>39005934
>monster hunger
Monsters do look delicious.

>> No.39006099

>>39006019
That's why I just feel like it's more of a cover decision than the girl's decisions.

>> No.39006206

>>38969671
Probably. We only had three so there isn't much competition.

>> No.39006208

>>38969584
>There will be no big event
>Kiara has already planned for this depressing reality
>Your "unity" this year will be some fan art of EN together on the 25th advent calendar and a video of half the members saying merry Christmas

>> No.39006304

>>39006099
Why would Cover do that, unless there's a labor dispute or something?

>> No.39006374

>>39006304
Because the other answer is a bit worse. If the talents think things are fine going weeks/months without communicating in the slightest, then that feels more like shit.

>> No.39006425

>>39005713
If they're losing confidence in EN it's their own fault, and if they're really waiting for things to stop being volatile then they're contributing to the problem. Waiting that long is making things fall apart because the branch doesn't have a critical mass of members to make it situations like we currently have where almost everyone isn't streaming didn't feel as bad because then, if we had 15 members for example, each one would be 6.7% of the roster and not a whole tenth. Granted, there's no guarantee that if we had 5 more girls none of them would be sick, but I think the chance of having 8 active members instead of 3 is much more desirable, but I guess Cover just doesn't give a shit.


>>39005934
Ina is actually a good streamer but she didn't had a lot of experience beforehand. Cover bet on her and actually got something good out of it, but if she wasn't a big artist I don't think she would be able to go through the normal auditions process. Cover's mistake was to expect the same with Sana only to get an artist who doesn't make art and a streamer who doesn't stream.

>> No.39006620

>>39006425
Cover just seems like they play EN out like it's a side gig and not something to be taken seriously in the long run. Just a long experiment to try and work some things out in other more easily ran areas. Their recruitment, their policies, contracts, and lots of other ways they manage these girls all contributed to things being the way they are now. Whoever is in charge of the EN branch either needs to restructure or step down. The lack of transparency on these situations is kind of amusing, but then this is the same company that suspends talents for various internal reasons but makes sure to make a public announcement about it that always sounds as vague as humanely possible to seemingly stoke some crazier rumor-mongering than what already existed.
This company, and basically many others like Cover, still haven't figured out how to handle things internally and externally and when to do each of them. Again, there's just such a weird disconnect in EN that it just makes people and fans feel too much trepidation.

>> No.39006822

>>39006620
>as vague as humanely possible
This is just corporate culture now. At some point it became this and "always lie about the real reason." I'm not familiar with the law, but probably something to do with gaining stronger NDA powers.

>> No.39007036

>>39006822
This. As a corporate drone this is just par for the course. Companies lie about literally everything no matter how retarded it is, even when everyone knows they’re bullshitting.
I swear that whole study about people in power being psychopaths is true because I can’t even see the justification for this bullshit other than them being pathological liars

>> No.39007174

>>39007036
I've had similar experiences when I still worked for a corp. They literally lied about our IT status to our IT branch, it was hilarious. And resulted in half their IT quitting for disrespecting them, including me.

>> No.39007179
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>>38969584
> EN

>> No.39007197

>>39006822
The reason I said that is why would they open themselves and the situation up to even more scrutiny, rumor mongering, and flat out harassment to the talent involved by making a statement like that in the first place? If it's an internal issue that the public will never know about, why would you opt for a message that reads like someone committed something tantamount to a crime instead of having your talent announce themselves of themselves going on a break/having health issues/etc. They already basically do that, so why create more issues and shitposting about their talents when it can be somewhat cushioned with not much effort?

>> No.39007233

>>38986815
Not for Tempus.
Neither JP Holostars nor their management were informed about THEIR supposed group getting a new English branch.
Tempus was always a HoloEN project.

>> No.39007531

>>39006620
While I can definitely see it nowadays it's hard for me to believe that they always treated the branch like that, especially after Myth stupidly huge success back in 2020. HoloEN was the first time Cover decided to something that Anycolor didn't do before (no, renaming the IN branch to EN doesn't count), and they struck gold hard and became THE dominant force in the west for the better part of their first year and I can only see them start treating EN as a side branch after failing to capitalize on their early success. Council was an overall a blunder and not the sequel to Myth everyone expected, with the month-long tease that ended up making people tired, a one week wait for debut that was extended by a day because of undisclosed reasons and Sana, well, everything, but honestly their biggest problem was how long it took for them to debut. They should've come out earlier in the year so that the wait for it wouldn't pile expectations over expectations to the point that realistically they would always be disappointing, which actually happened, tho ironically they ended up more dedicated to their jobs than Myth, especially if you include IRyS with them. The should've kept the release schedule for new debuts shorter for at least the first 3 to 4 gens so that they could quickly build a healthy and strong group from their early success and not have to rush to get new additions because the branch started falling apart. There's no need to go full NijiEN, but I think debuting once 8 or 9 months would've been ideal and that would put us on either already having EN4 with 8 months or waiting for them in January with 9, and maybe one of these could've been a smaller Gamer-like gen and it would still be better than only have 10 after 27 months.

>> No.39007579

>>39007174
Every day I’m tempted more and more. I can put up with a lot of bullshit but the blatant lying to my face is what gets me the most riled up.

>> No.39008593

Its funny to see vtubers died already.
We dont even have discussion threads anymore, its 100% generals.

Not only cover gave no fucks about making holoen keep going, we are stuck with only kids watching it anymore.

A fad that lasted 2 years is not that bad, really.

>> No.39010391

>>39008593
>We dont even have discussion threads anymore, its 100% generals.
This is the evolution of many boards, it's hardly just here. Younger audiences seem to prefer it (along with namefagging, which is thankfully not present)

>> No.39012221

>>39008593
In Japan it's still going strong, it's just the west that has a severe case of ADHD.

>> No.39014391

>>38969584
I'd say them actually being in Japan is better

>> No.39017671

>>38969584
>https://holoen-advent.com/
At least we have this

>> No.39017882

>>39007036
Cover being run by psychopaths would explain a lot but it could be a matter of reputation. Japanese idol corporations care greatly about reputation since their business model depends on it. If the truth would hurt Cover's reputation than they would make the holoEN talents lie even if that makes the talents look bad.

>> No.39020429

>>39008593
>We dont even have discussion threads anymore, its 100% generals.
Let's be honest, this happened because the meidos slacked off on actually taking care of this board too soon after it was created and has let numberfaggotry and tribalfaggotry run rampant. Of course there's no discussion to be had out in the catalog when everyone has been conditioned to believe that it's nothing but a cesspool of bait and falseflagging.
And it's a shame because I used to find good indies and other chuubas just by browsing through the catalog on a whim all throughout year.

>> No.39022324

>>38969745
>>38970535
Ironically true since Fauna is the only confirmed one streaming on Christmas.

>> No.39025136

>>38969584
Eh I like it rn

>> No.39026886

>>38969745
that's pretty based

>> No.39027028

It's too bad none of them have the kino to do something like have Fauna alone building a christmas tree in minecraft. And then one by one they all show up to help. Deep into Christmas Eve night. And then they all ring in Christmas together with a fully decorated monstrous tree. Even Ina comes back at the end. That would be the best christmas ever.

But instead probably Ame has been working on some ugly VR thing the past month and we'll get a bunch of bitches who hate each other getting motion sickness over scuffed sound.

>> No.39027084

>>39027028
Ame is on tummy hort vacation, doubt she'll be back for Christmas since she doesn't give 2 shits anymore. Also she probably has buyer's regret for spending 100k on her mocap equipment and set up at home.

>> No.39028177

>>38969745
I was in coma for a year. What happened?

>> No.39028544

>>39028177
someone yelled nigger to management

>> No.39030216
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>>38969624
Here's unity. Tempus ain't on that list.

>> No.39030220

>>39028177
The end of Holo En.

>> No.39030759

>>39027084
Will probably use it for whatever she does next, it's fucking wasted on Cover.

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