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38893695 No.38893695 [Reply] [Original]

What are the chances that vtubers will start graduating to become VA's?

>> No.38893807

None,
Most of them have 0 talent for VA.

>> No.38893853

>>38893807
Korone recently did VA work for that new Gundam show

>> No.38893883

>>38893695
probably none because apparently they get paid shit, after the bayonetta drama it made me realise they can get more supachats in one stream then a famous VA's pay for an entire game.

>> No.38893940

>>38893695
It usually goes the other way around

>> No.38894056

Being a vtuber isn’t as respected as being a professional VA but the money is crap at most they will do it as a side gig

>> No.38894276

>>38893883
qrd?

>> No.38894489

>>38893695
Literally zero, any big vtuber makes way more then voice actors who get paid like shit

>> No.38894623

>>38893853
You mean the joke track for Megaton Musashi?

>> No.38894688

>>38893883
You mean the one that the VA was later exposed as liar? She was getting literally $1000 per hour.

>> No.38895094

>>38894688
ok and? she was just angry from menopause and lied, sure, but take into account how many voice acting jobs they get per year. then they have to live off that as a full time job, its not enough. most voice actors do it as side jobs. and she was a theatre actor full time with voice acting as a side job, herself, and had no clue about how video games worked (she thought bayonetta was a 3 billion franchise or something).
so many they dont get "paid shit" I concede that but they just dont get enough work to give up a vtubing job for.

>> No.38895999

>>38893807
>talent
Nah some people just need connections or a claim to fame. Quite a few youtubers have done voice work despite probably having limited training. Though if the Umisea animations was any indication they need some practice.

>> No.38898699

>>38893695
Pic related was one before

>> No.38898800

>>38893695
it requires to do actual work so that exclude every single western vtuber, some jp ones have a chance and some others already did some jobs.

>> No.38898896

I think Nene has voiced a mob or something some months ago

>> No.38899783

>>38893695
that's literally what Gibara tried to do but she came back to vtubing when it didn't work out

>> No.38900237

>>38893695
Gura tried, but went to vtubing. And making her own short anime. She'd probably be able to get more gigs now, if wanted.

>> No.38900333

>>38895999
connections and social skills > work ethic > "talent"

>> No.38900372
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>>38895094
>defends the lying whore
All you have to say is that any 2k + ccv streamer probably earns more than your typical VA

>> No.38901127

>>38893695
0 because most big chuubas earn in a month or two what VAs earn in their lifetime.
At the most she'd be doing it for fame or because she likes that series.

>> No.38901183

That would be a complete downgrade to their cashflow, plus there's not much reason they can't do both as many already do

>> No.38901203

>>38893695
Reminder that if you're watching dubs you aren't really watching anime.

>> No.38901230

>>38893695
Zero, at least for successful 3+views. Voice Acting is a very insular field that is difficult to break into, and there is far more money in streaming.

>> No.38901585

>>38893695
A few holos are former VAs.

There are a lot of failed or small time VAs in the indie scene.

>> No.38901826

Koyori, for example, made about 2 million yen last night in subs and SCs. That's about $15k, she gives about $4.5k to cover and $4.5k to youtube. She is left with only $6k for an 8 hour singing stream. Tell me, is this better than being a voice actor?

>> No.38901911

>>38893695
>100 times lower yearly income
None.
At most they'll do VA work on the side, or through the character, like they do now.

>> No.38901986

>>38893695
That's probably what Fubuki will do when she chooses to graduate

>> No.38902213

>>38893695
Slim to none. If they could've made it as VA's they would've. Which isn't necessarily a knock on them; voice work is an extremely niche field with a finite amount of jobs and a strong culture of nepotism.

>> No.38902300

>>38901826
Yes

>> No.38902371

>>38893695
>>38893807
>>38900372
>>38902213
>>38901911
OP here, sorry, I made a typo. I didn't mean "VA's". I meant meant "AV" actresses.

>> No.38902430

>>38901826
The average yearly income of a low to mid tier voice actor in japan is 28-45k a year
So yeah

>> No.38902497

>>38893883
If they make it into being an in demand VA they'll make bank.

>> No.38902606
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>>38900372
stop trying to drag random people into dumb fucking internet drama, I didnt "defend" her and so what if I did, I dont give a fuck about her or even play bayonetta, I am just talking about the pay they get. retard. you argue like a twitter user.
would you be happier if I made a big paragraph about how actually i hate that voice actor who I never even heard of? is that what you want to hear so we can be friends on /vt/? retard stupid niggerchama

>> No.38903039

>>38902430
I'm looking at the numbers for holos that were former VAs and being a holo is much more valuable than being a small-mid VA by 1 or 2 orders of magnitude. I think only being a top VA and an industry veteran is more lucrative than being a popular vtuber.

>> No.38903179

>>38902371
Too late for that
Make another thread

>> No.38903182

>>38902371
>He doesn't know
It's the other way around.

>> No.38903232

>>38900372
No one gives a shit. The point is going VA is a down grade in every way, even if it's a bigger role.

>> No.38903291

>>38903232
There's like a 1000 vtubers, surely being a VA is better than many of them.

>> No.38903417

>>38893695
If they're successful as a Vtuber enough to go into other fields off their name alone why would they switch from something that pays well to a shit paying job like VA?

>> No.38903467

What the fuck, guys? They don't need to graduate to become VA, they can voice using another art name or using the vtuber name to cross marketing...

>> No.38903485

>>38902371
Slim to none. If they could've made it as AVs they would've. Which isn't necessarily a knock on them; porn work is an extremely niche field with a finite amount of jobs and a strong culture of nepotism.

>> No.38903515

>>38903467
they're not allowed to do VA work on the side actually, it's in their contract. they can finish up the work they had been hired to do before joining hololive though.
this actually caused a very minor nothingburger yab once.

>> No.38903606

Yeah, and why don’t six figure cooking influencers quit and work the registers at McDonalds?

>> No.38903888

>>38902371
>he lacks critical information

>> No.38903896
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>>38901826
>Only $6k for 8 hours work
C'mon son.

>> No.38904097

>>38903896
The Beyonetta lady was complaining about $1k an hour. Koyori only got $750 an hour. I thought that was sub standard for a VA.

>> No.38904780

>>38904097
The Bayonetta lady isn't going to see another job for a few months if at all, and that's before she got caught in a lie. She's also a decently well known va which gives her opportunities most don't get. Koyori can potentially make that much every weekend, to say nothing of what she earns during her regular streams plus whatever sponsorships she's a part of. On the other hand she's an unknown in voice work and is contractually forbidden from using her Hololive persona outside of official Cover events.

>> No.38905180

>>38893695
Anon, the small time VA's and the English dub VA's are the ones becoming vtuber because the pay is too shit unless you are a top, high demand VA's. You'll probably see retiring idols/VA/cosplayers going into vtubers if there's some space left in the scene as well.

>> No.38905454
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>>38893883
American VAs are paid shit, but Japan does the opposite and pays their VAs more than everyone else

>> No.38905498

>>38893695
anon some VA's are becoming vtubers

>> No.38905722

Right now the parti-ai gang has an automated tweet to AI deepfake process. I'm still thinking Gura will return as an entirely artificial chuuba. If Cover bought her voice and likeness, and they already own the character, they could replace the RM with an AI and it's possible no one will be the wiser.

>> No.38905781

>>38905180
The JP indie scene is littered with vtubers who are actually VAs making ends meet between roles.

>> No.38905808
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>>38893695
>start graduating to become VA's?
Why would they, when they can VA as vtubers?

>> No.38905865

>>38905781
That's always the case. I think even Polka was a jp VA taking on shit load of minor roles.
There are already en dub VA's doing vtuber work right now.

>> No.38905923

>>38905454
That's like the top 1% of jp VA's anon

>> No.38905922

>>38905498
big if true

>> No.38905978

>>38893695
Helena hamfingers typed this

>> No.38906979

Subaru, Koyori, and others who were not popular in VA have become VTubers.

>> No.38907141

>>38905454
>$666000
That's what Lamy pays in taxes almost.

>> No.38907196

>>38905865
Koyori and FBK also did voice acting, I'm sure their more famous and make better money now. There are others too.

>> No.38907213

>>38905454
In fact, the rewards as a VA are higher in the West.
Japanese VAs earn more from events and concerts.

>> No.38907286

>>38907213
Moreover, VAs are now more numerous than in the past, so even veterans are failing auditions more often.
Koichi Yamadera apparently failed two auditions recently, and with more competition for VAs than in the past, the number of people who can make a living from VAs alone is more limited than in the past.

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>>38893695
none of the ones actually worth thinking about. good chuubas know their place.

>> No.38907357

>>38905454
That's like saying all American actors are rich because Tom Cruise got paid a hundred million dollars to not be weird for a couple of hours.

>> No.38907643

>>38907286
Western VA's have other issue
Most big VA's jobs are just taken by actors.
Anime and gaming dub VA's have their own circle but the pay is only average even for the "popular" ones

>> No.38907738

what kind of idiot would drop vtube for a wage job?

>> No.38907955

>>38893695
Why would they take a job that probably pays way less?

>> No.38908534

>>38907643
To begin with, too few people in the West are interested in VA. Therefore, they try to attract as much attention as possible by using famous people (actors). Many people do not care about the voice of a particular character, so the production team can easily change it. If the VA of Goku (who is not well-liked in the West) were to be replaced in Japan for any reason other than health reasons or death, it would spell the end of Dragon Ball's anime popularity. The West does not have that mindset.

>> No.38910306

>>38907738
Someone who isn't in the top 0.01% of vtubers.

>> No.38910651

>>38901203
You mean reading

>> No.38912778

>>38893695
low
you actually have to do work as a VA

>> No.38919928

>>38893695
soon

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