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38757865 No.38757865 [Reply] [Original]

HOLOEU DOKO?

>> No.38759152

>>38757865
>Don't stream in the EU primetime
>Get no EU donations
>Complain EU gives no profits so they won't stream in the EU primetime
>Get no EU donations

>> No.38759341

>>38757865
EN3 BROTHER
TRUST THE PLAN
2 MORE WEEKS

>> No.38759419

>>38759152
>"Yagoo-san, should we consider hiring EU vtubers for EN3"
>Hmmm, don't we have Kiara?
>"Well yeah, but she's only one girl and also rather abrasive and not widely appealing like Gura"
>Ah, see? EU don't like vtubers, now go hire 5 girls who stream in the exact same time slots as our previous talents
>"But what about the different time slots which our fans complain about being literally empty"
>No, hire more girls in EST, that way if any of them ever stream, you still have to choose between them

>> No.38759423
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38759423

you already got your Holo EU here?

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38759441

>>38759423
why that filename

>> No.38759826

What's the point? If they speak their own lanaguages there is no guarantee they will have an audience, and if they speak english there is no point in having it EU, might aswell just be EN3 instead. The best bet is hiring someone that is already a big vtuber/streamer in their country but I doubt there are many good ones.

>> No.38759895

If HoloEU ever happens, it is the end of MYTH UNITY.

Kiara is the only one who cares about the og band sticking together. Once she has 5 new EU kouhais she’s literally only gonna collab with them and let the glory of being Daisenpai to a whole unit get to her head.

>> No.38760014

>>38759895
>the end of MYTH UNITY
Good. Let competition between the factions lead to better streams and to the end of dead weights.

>> No.38760083

>>38759423
She's more of HoloWorld. No matter when, she will stream.

>> No.38760131

>>38757865
>HoloEU
>Every country has at least one streamer in HoloEU
>All the German speaking streamers start forming their own clique
>The Swiss get kicked out because they can't understand their dialect
>The French one insists everyone should speak to them in French because it's more convenient to them than English
>During minecraft collabs everyone starts cursing at each other in their own language.
>Balkans are forbidden from collabing with each other after too many suspensions

>> No.38760164

>>38759895
Forget that, if her EU kouhai is the next Gura/kobo, and is a widely appealing talented character, that plays in EU hours,
And skyrockets past her in subs..

Hell hath no fury like a scorned Kiara. She won’t be able to contain her immense jealousy- to the point she is genuinely vicious and horrid. It will be the next yabai I promise u

>> No.38760175

leave the poor euros alone they already spend what little disposable income they have left after taxes on fifa ultimate team and alcoholism

>> No.38760181

>>38759895
Better latter than never. I'd rather have Kiara create her own unit with Euro members than seeing her continue to drag Myth's corpse when the rest of the gen couldn't give a shit anymore. But let's be real here, the chances of Cover hiring a single Euro member are somehow lower than a gen full of Aussies so you should keep your expectations as low as possible.

>> No.38760202

>>38759895
Myth Unity is dead, the good days of 2020 and early 2021 are done and dusted. I can see Kiara going full queen bee senpai on European holos.

>> No.38760263

>>38759895
Well deserved for the only genuine idol in her gen

>> No.38760268

>>38760131
>source: My jew paid media

>> No.38760290

>>38757865
no euro accents allowed in hololive buddy

>> No.38760366

Why would you hire people for a market that barely exists for a dying trend?

>> No.38760408

>eu oshi
>not stream because of blackout

>> No.38760438

>>38760366
But somehow Australia is a promising market, even when they ban almost anything remotely Japanese, right?

>> No.38760454

mana re for holo en3
her collab with kiara will be glorious

>> No.38760532

>>38760454
Isn't she the Russian vtuber Moona collabed with? Did she graduate/enter indefinite hiatus recently?

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38760548

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgv_1oP0up8
My daughter loves my language.

>> No.38760688

>>38760366
Some of biggest vtubers outside Hololive are fucking european and their main audience are euros

>> No.38760751

>>38757865
For what purpose? I already can watch JP on weekends

>> No.38760815

>>38759895
>implying this is a bad thing
tard

>> No.38760882

>>38760688
the biggest vtubers outside holo are japs with a jap audience, then koreans with a korean audience, americans with an american audience, and niji en with their cn/sea audience

>> No.38760989

>>38760882
You wanna back this claim up?

>> No.38761005
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38761005

Just watch EU indies?

>> No.38761042

>>38760882
Shilily and Veibae are japanese?

>> No.38761125

>>38761005
Yeah watch 10 different indies who will never have any decent merch, collabs etc and shit

>> No.38761134

Don't worry guys I'll make it in.

>> No.38761175

>>38759895
It's not quite a doomfest. Unity among the earlier JP gens is pretty dead as well.

>> No.38761188
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38761188

>>38761125
oh nyoooo, no chance to pay $60 for an hand towel of the cheapest quality you will ever see

>> No.38761271

>>38761188
Dunno man, having all 5 myth members in counterside is like the dream come true for anyone that enjoys both.
A indie will NEVER have this

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38761369

>>38761271
You should kill yourself for unironically be fine with $45 skins in a gacha game just because it's a skin of *favorite brand*.

>> No.38761377

>>38761005
Sorry I only watch hololive

>> No.38761417

>>38761042
They are all EN.
I think OP means to get EU who speaks non-english for non-english EU countries. Almost all current EU vtubers are streaming in English. What difference would it make if Holo already have a couple ID and EN who can stream in english in EU time slots already.

>> No.38761474

>>38757865
There were not enough applicants with arab, libanese or turkish proficiency.

>> No.38761481

>>38761417
ID doesn't speak English all the time

>> No.38761484

>>38761125
>who will never have any decent merch, collabs etc and shit
No clue which EU indies you watch but I own "decent" merch from several of them.

>> No.38761486

>>38761042
Since when are they bigger than Kuzuha?

>> No.38761487

>>38757865
EN3 will have one T*rkroach chuuba and she will be a loli and second most popular to a French onee-san type.
And 3 out of 5 will still stream in N.A. time because the donos and views are better

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38761536

>>38761005
rrat sex...

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38761564

>>38761486
>EU HAS NO MARKET
>so why there are massive EU chuubas?
>BUT NIJISANJI JAPAN

>> No.38761590

>>38761486
Then there's not a single EN indie chuuba who's bigger than Kuzuha and making more EN gens full of Burgers/Canucks/Aussies is a waste of time and resources, but I'm pretty sure that was your point since the beginning.

>> No.38761721

>>38757865
I want a cute loli italian chuuba teaching me italian words on stream please please please cover I'm begging you

>> No.38761755

>>38761721
You already know someone else has you covered for that

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38761810

>>38761721
>I want a cute loli italian chuuba

>> No.38761924

>>38761369
Damn you must be poor af talking about 41€ being much. And it's not about the brand you eternal consoomer.

>> No.38761965

>>38761417
>I think OP means to get EU who speaks non-english for non-english EU countries
No one actually wants that. What people want is Cover hiring talents from the EU so that they stream during EU primetime.

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38762158

>>38761924
>lol you poor?
>>>/v/ is more of your speed
And funny you call me consoomer for not spending that much on a fucking skin in a gacha game

>> No.38762198

>>38762158
I called you a consoomer because the first thing you did was project and think about "brand"

>> No.38762234

>>38762198
And i am wrong?

>> No.38762275

>>38762234
Yes, because you are literally assmad about shit that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
Tell me how the price of a collab skin has anything to do with indies never getting those compared to corporate chuubas. You can't.

>> No.38762472

>>38757865
EN3 will be HoloEU

>> No.38762518

>>38762472
Yes. EU as in countries colonized by Europe, like America, Canada and Australia.

>> No.38762638

>>38761721
>cute loli italian chuuba
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_BdSAg2-5c

>> No.38763828

>>38757865
EU more like EW lol

>> No.38763921

>>38762638
she's cute wtf

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38763961

>>38757865
I'm EU and it's fucking true that EU fans never fucking donate. I'm pretty much the only guy donating in euros to my oshi.
I understand why they ignore this region.

>> No.38765448

>>38757865
with EN3

>> No.38765698

>>38757865
Wouldn't work because Euros hate each other.

>> No.38765771

>>38765698
Only EN and FR hate each other and the greek hate the germans. That's basically it.

>> No.38765879

>>38757865
>EU women
>having british,french,spanish portuguese and slavs
Don't do it

>> No.38766132

>>38765698
I'd argue americans hate eachother more

>> No.38766233

>>38757865
it will take a while, EU is not only english, they have dominate a lot of languages to actually cover a good amount of that area.

>> No.38766252

>>38761564
But that was what the other poster said >>38760882, which you (or the other anon, if you aren't the same person) brought up Shilily and Bao
>the biggest vtubers outside holo are japs with a jap audience, then koreans with a korean audience, americans with an american audience, and niji en with their cn/sea audience
>>38761590
The point is that, if a corpo want to expand their reach, EU-only market is one of the lower priority one. Number-wise, KR market is bigger (Isegye Idols on Twitch), NA market is bigger (HoloEN), and Asian / CN market is bigger (Luxiem).

>> No.38766306

>>38757865
if you are euro neet you can watch JPvtubers in the most convenient time, in the middle of the day(12:00-16/17:00) when your worthless ass has nothing to do, and yes I'm projecting

>> No.38766413

>>38766252
>result based analysis
Can't believe i share the same board with subhumans

>> No.38766443

>>38766252
So what? Are you saying that Cover should never hire anyone from Europe and keep forcing the same trio of Americans/Canadians/Aussies down HoloEN's throat? Even if there's a European candidate that's perfect for the gen, can sing, is decent at games, has good streaming experience, but just because they live on that continent they're ineligible because that somehow makes it so she'll never be able to bring an audience from anywhere? I thought the ones that were supposed to be hired were the best ones for the job, not those who came from a narrow amount of places out of the entire western world.

>> No.38766584

>>38757865
>>38759895
Kiara would end up leading them and gain her full power. Although I would like if Selphius got in after her return.

>> No.38766629

>>38760438
Australia is a promising market because their timing lines up well with both the Japanese and English markets, same as Indonesia. Europe streams in the dead hours for the vast majority of the vtuber fanbase and are an objectively bad investment.

>> No.38766634

>>38765879
agreed, but what about an italian?

>> No.38766657

>>38761965
Anon, holobronies are too retarted to grasp a concept like that.
I for one don't want corpo slaves to poison EU prime time with their shitty repetitive content. Let holofags live their unicorn fantasy on different timeslots, they will love watching Pokémon stream #54 for the second week in a row.

>> No.38766674

>>38766629
*American, not English

>> No.38766692

>>38766443
sure they'll hire her she just won't stream euro hours or speak anything other than english/jap 90% of the time because you guys are fucking stingy and flaky

>> No.38766700

>>38766657
>unicorn fantasy
That fantasy already died in HoloEN.

>> No.38766783

>>38766629
And out of the 3 Aussies Cover hired 1 is already gone and the other 2 are the least popular of their gen. Sure looks promising.

>>38766692
>you guys
Who the fuck are you talking about? I don't see anywhere in my post that an European chuuba should act exactly like all the other HoloEN members, so could you elucidate me where did you find such implication?

>> No.38766803

>>38757865
how do you expect an EU branch to appeal to the entire continent it's easier to just appeal to specific countries or a widespread language

>> No.38766859

>>38766629
Europe evening is not bad for americans.

>> No.38766906

>>38765698
As if some weeb grills are going to start a nationalist conflict among themselves if they're put on a vtuber group together. What kind of cartoon world you're living in m8?

>> No.38766907

>>38766783
And every EU talent in hololive is the lowest of her gen, so I guess Cover should only hire Americans, Canadians, and Japanese talents, since they're the only ones that succeed. Both the EU and Australia experiments are failures.

>> No.38766936

>>38766906
https://youtu.be/yVIG81Ukwnw?t=5452

>> No.38766950

>>38766907
>He doesn't know that Kiara makes the most bucks behind Gura

>> No.38766972

>>38766907
>And every EU talent in hololive is the lowest of her gen
>Sample size: 1 (one)

>> No.38767059

>>38766936
Holy shit, her voice is actually tolerable these days

>> No.38767075

>>38760164
>YOU WILL SEE THAT KIARA IS ACTUALLY A HUGE BITCH, IF COVER HIRES SOMEONE FROM EU THAT BECOMES AS POPULAR AS KOBO/GURA
RUMAO the absolute seethe from this post

>> No.38767124

>>38766950
SC is a meaningless metric when it comes to corpo chuubas. Members, merchs and sponsorships pay a lot more (merchs especially).
(And when people talk about popularity, they usually refer to CCV or views, not SC anyway)

>> No.38767278

>>38767124
Come on man. There's literally a collab going on and every myth member is SSR except Kiara who got to be the skin of an awakenedSSR unit.
And yeah, people tend to buy merch of corpo chuubas that stream, believe me or not.
Also first to do the sponsorship stream, if that doesn't tell you something i don't know what will.

>> No.38767367

>>38757865
you guys already have kiara, what more do you want?

>> No.38767374

>>38766443
No. What I meant was that outside of edge cases, most of the time Cover (or AnyKara for that matter) will likely prioritize the other markets over EU.
>Even if there's a European candidate that's perfect for the gen, can sing, is decent at games, has good streaming experience
Sure, if there is an applicant that far ahead of everyone else, Cover will likely hire her. However, it's not like such amazing chuuba can easily be found, and not like chuuba from other, more convenient, timezones are failures either. If two (or more) applicants are on similar levels, it's understandable that Cover will likely prefer the ones that can target those other markets first.
It's not like Cover is vehemently against EU market. They didn't force Vesper to change his EU timeslot zatsus' time, for example. It's just that it makes more sense business-wise right now to prioritize other markets (namely NA or Asian, since they can't go back to CN after all).

>> No.38767393

>>38766907
>And every EU talent in hololive is the lowest of her gen
>Kiara is the only EU in the entire hololive project and filters people with her chicken voice
Just hire a European gura-like loli and profit

>> No.38767463

>>38766907
Oh yeah, because a group size of 1 is definitely indicative of how things are. I admit that I'm not being completely honest with my Australian example, but for fuck's sake Europe has a bunch of weebs, France literally works with Japan on animation projects, it's ludicrous to believe that a largely unexplored market is dead on arrival.

>>38767374
>Cover will likely hire her
That would be true if they didn't hire an artist who barely streamed before Hololive and decided to not do art streams after debut. If we had more than a single European member on HoloPro then I would agree with some of your points, but at the moment the way Cover acts definitely implies that they won't even pay attention to your audition if you're from the continent.

>> No.38767542

>>38759895
Myth unity dies with Ina being gone anyway. TakoTori is literally the linchpin of HoloMyth unity, the one duo that always worked together.

>> No.38767716

>>38757865
Imagine if Holo ID doesn't exist and some Indonesian asking for Holo ID, they would be mocked by the entire board but in reality as we all know ID is a far more sensible choice than EU or ES.

>> No.38767770

>>38765771
>and the greek hate the germans
We just hate their goverment, but not more than they do.

>> No.38767815

>>38767770
Yeah 12 years of merkel sucked ass. Glad we agree on that.

>> No.38767887

>>38757865
>no EU donations
>only like 10 super autistic EU weebs would even bother with buying merch
>weird timeslot so all the views would be from EU and EU watchers arent that dedicated, meaning numbers will be equal to or lower than the homos
Great idea

>> No.38768947

>>38757865
you could grab NIna Saotome, Chapipi, Kitanya (SA but streams at peak euro timespot in english), basedapoya, and a few others and make a pretty good EU gen.
Also grab a spanish vtuber somewhere so it attracts the hispanics too.

>> No.38769377

What EU countries would be good though? It feels like most swedish girls would be massive whores so I would prefer other countries

>> No.38769641

>>38769377
For maximum drama and banter you need Germany, Italy, England, France, and Russia, but due to world events replace Russia with Spain.

>> No.38769715

>>38769641
To make it interesting have the English girl be from Northern Ireland.

>> No.38769791

HoloBR doko

>> No.38770187

>>38769377
An Italian would generate good memes

>> No.38772744

>>38760131
>Poland is repeatedly bullied and turned into center of unsavory rape jokes, especially by Russia and Germany.
>Ukrainian vchuuba mysteriously disappears after speaking badly about Vladimir Puting during collab with Russian girl.
>Greece too poor to afford internet. Streams once per year when she visits other countries.
>Moldovia has all the loli porn, all of it. Potentially is involved in running infamous Moldovan bunker.

>> No.38772885

>>38772744
Romania got banned after chat asked about their opinion on Gypsies.

>> No.38773180

>>38772744
yeah, sounds about right...

>> No.38773282

>>38757865
Europe is the SEA of the western market

>> No.38773826

>>38769641
>due to world events replace Russia
Fuck that. How about unity, comrade? Why unperson every Russian because of a border conflict with a non-country?

>> No.38774096

>>38759826
>There’s no point in having it in EU
The timezones, you mongoloid. EU isn’t like ID, everyone knows English, and the ones who don’t are used to being forced to do reps. A vtuber in EU who mostly streams in English would do fine there.

>> No.38774156

>>38773826
>unperson
>something between funghi and animal
>>38757865
We already have HoloJPs, Nowa and Kiara
If you really don't understand basic japanese to watch superior and non-whore JPs then try moving to Idol Corp.

>> No.38774212

>>38766584
Has Selphius ever done vtubing before? I both really want to see that and am also afraid that she’ll break my heart like Kronii by not having a goddamn clue what vtubing’s like.
I’m not even a unicorn. I wouldn’t even care if she collabed with males. I just like her choice of covers and how standard her accent is. It makes it easier for my GSL ass to understand.

>> No.38774335

>>38774212
Yes she was a brown German loli for a bit but took a break due to stuff in real life.

>> No.38774364

>>38766803
By streaming in English. Europe is not Indonesia, anyone who’s online and matters uses English, and corpos don’t have to pretend to give a shit. Being monolingual in Europe makes you a second class citizen, and even for the shitters like France and Italy, a lot of them *understand* English, even if they’re trash at speaking it.

>> No.38774457

>>38757865
>no unified language
>lingua franca is English anyway
Huh shit I wonder why they don't bother hmmmmm

>> No.38774460

>>38774335
I know she (well, her persona online) is a brown German loli. I never knew she used it as a vtuber avatar before…
Well, looks like I need to see if she has any VODs.

>> No.38774836

>>38766584
Didn’t selphius have some lefty drama or am I mixing something up?

>> No.38774902

>>38774460
Well she had her avatar for a long time and streams for years but for the longest time she didn’t combine the two and just streamed regularly

>> No.38774995

>>38774836
Well, she’s German and she’s black. I don’t know if it’s possible for her to avoid it even if she tried. I’m watching her clips right now, and I can say for certain that:
A.) I think she’s great
B.) She would not be a good fit for Hololive.
She’s a lot like Shylily. Which I don’t have a problem with. If anything, Selphy sounds like she’d fit in more with the Lily/Numi crew of vtubers who whore it up on stream and don’t get hate because they’re open about it.

>> No.38779270

>>38774156
True. Ukes are hooknosed subhuman.

>> No.38779795

>>38757865
never

>> No.38779848

>>38774156
>non-whore JPs

>> No.38780770

>>38757865
2024

>> No.38783501

>>38765771
Are you retarded? England vs France is generic Euro shit that is everywhere.
>>38757865
There are Japs streaming in a good time for me. English sounds ugly, I wouldn't want to listen to that anyway.

>> No.38783593

Imagine the sheer autism of an EU branch, my god

>> No.38783610

Italian holo please

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