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So whatever happened to this?
I know an anime is just too much to ask for, but I thought they would at least make more music videos or a manga at the very least.
Would EN and ID even be included? I know Calli sang the theme song, but somehow I can see Cover once again excluding them.

>> No.3863413

>>3863376
Updates sometime this month apparently.

>> No.3863421

Blame the doujin schizo.

>> No.3863449

>>3863376
Holy fuck so many lore in this image.

>> No.3863453

>>3863421
I though that was just some other Marine project that was not necessarily related to this thing.

>> No.3863489

>>3863376
Who would even be the main villain though?
I can see someone like Haachama willing to play the role, Suisei would also be an antagonist somehow.

>> No.3863558
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>>3863376
So was Gen 3 supposed to be the main characters or at least the "anime" centered around them?

>> No.3863577

>>3863489
coco could be a villain turned good guy judging from the ALT music video
although i doubt she'll be a main villain, it's probably gonna be an oc or yagoo

>> No.3863861

>>3863376
how much lore does niijsanji have in comparison to hololive?
I'm guessing they all have brief backgrounds, but are there any other lore material connecting everyone?

>> No.3863945

>>3863453
Nah, Mizukek was doing the official Marine manga which was the first part of the project, the teaser for it was even on the HoloAlt page before he had his meltdown

>> No.3864000

>>3863861
Don't think so, and neither is hololive

>> No.3864047
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3864047

So how broken powerwise would EN be if they were ever introduced?

>> No.3864142

>>3863376
need more money probably

>> No.3864277

>>3864142
If every girl did some stream about getting funds for a Hololive anime, they would have the money within a few hours, so that can't be it.

>> No.3864342

>>3864047
The only really broken one sare Mori, Kiara and Ina in the grand scheme of things. Ame has a so called time traveling watch, but is she really a time traveler per Alt cannon? Can Gura control the weather or is she just Atlantis fish girl with a fancy spear?

>> No.3864531

>>3864342
gura is an old bitch with a trident
she's the aqu*man of hololive
dumb, too

ame is an old bitch with a pocket watch

ina is a bitch with a book and tentacles

>> No.3864540

I only remember that anime's producer ended up getting pissed off at COVER and left

>> No.3864691

>>3864540
alright rodent

>> No.3864693

>>3864342
Gura is basically Aquaman, meaning superhuman strong/durable and able to wield Poseidon's trident, with all the power that implies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEWPq-4sa3w
So, I say pretty broken actually.

>> No.3864793

oikaketeee
ima
ano shoooting star

>> No.3864838

>>3864047
Not that broken.

> Rushia is most likely stronger than Mori, as implied in that image you posted. Rushia is the(?) Necromancer Princess while Mori is only Death's apprentice.
> Watame flat-out has better resurrective ability than Kiara (8 seconds > however long it takes for Kiara to born again from her ashes).
> You might think Ina is broken because she has the support of an eldritch god, but let me reminds you that holoJP also have multiple god(-like entities):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iaf_4EiRTZ8
https://youtu.be/S587c3Rv9R8?t=57
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcA_mD9pQTM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF8TesmjfTo
> Gura is basically fodder.
> Last but not least, Ame isn't even the only one with time powers now. Haachama just revealed that she too can stop time and actually used it to kill Akai Haato:
https://youtu.be/S_M4CJgJDvk?t=2187

>> No.3864898

>>3864000
Hololive has some but not much
some small lore stuff that i remember that isn't in the OP pic is that Ayame, shion, rushia and choco attend the same magic school
Mikochi also has lightning powers

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3864909

>>3864342

>> No.3864953

>>3863376
>I know an anime is just too much to ask for
if you mean about the production I agree, but they could easily afford one

>> No.3865074

i just want mori to make cum countdown asmr with a ku300 or whater it was called....

>> No.3865105

>>3864838
>>Gura is basically fodder.
I imagine Gura as extremely broken but pretty much useless because she is incompetent with her powers

>> No.3865136

>>3863376
Why did they even have Calli sing the theme song anyway?
She is not even the best or second best singer in her own Gen.

>> No.3865147

>>3864909
>survived fatal injuries
>there are people on this world that have survived critical multiple center of mass shots
>calling it healing factor
What a worthless stat to add to a shitpost.

>> No.3865196

>>3865147
yes but not as much as ame, who should've been dead by now if she was a normal human

>> No.3865201

>>3864277
remember songs cost shit ton of money and supachats aren't best way to generate revenue since a huge percent goes to YT and Google Play or Apple store

>> No.3865208

>>3865136
Because she was the only one that they had on hand for studio time. What worst is it to have the voice of an angel if you're unable to use your voice when it's needed.

>> No.3865263

>>3865196
There are people who had been clinically dead and came back. Ame isn't special in surviving fatal injury, she's just has dumb luck.

>> No.3865299

>>3865136
I think she is the second best singer un her gen. The other three are much worse than Gura and Calli and I suppose they picked Calli because Gura is too autistic and lazy

>> No.3865343

>>3865136
Mori seems to be a reliable workhorse.

>> No.3865359

>>3865299
Gura voice doesn't fit imo, although I'm sure she'll do it if Cover asked her

>> No.3865402

>>3863861
they all have a character backstory and some of their backstories are connected but its usually only within members of the same wave or unit. some livers actually care about their backstory and add to it over time, others don't.

>> No.3865416

>>3865136
They're pushing her to become big. They want her to be the first "vtuber musician to make it big", even though that title belongs to Gorillaz.

>> No.3865448

>>3865208
>>3865299
>>3865343
What I mean is that EN girls will never even be part of this thing, so why have one of them(not even the best singer) sing the song?

>> No.3865505

>>3865416
>Cover invest all that money on her to have the best rig, songs and backstory
>Can't even beat a dumb lazy shark
Cover is retarded

>> No.3865721

>>3865416
post Murdoc and Noodle youtube channels

>> No.3865891

>>3863558
Seems so, yeah.

>> No.3865972

>>3863558
Why is Japan so obsessed with Gen 3 anyway?
You would think previous Gens would get more love and recognition, right?

>> No.3866210

>>3865972
Because Peko numbers, Rushia money, Marine and Noel are the cumdumps of Cover and Flare is the racial quota

>> No.3866301

>>3863861
Overarching lore virtually none. There are some bits of 2deep4u lore for specific members akin to Haachama lore, like Mayuzumi's 2434 System lore or the recent Aiba Uiha lore started with her 3D debut now streaming all her non-idolesque content using a doll as her avatar called Mia

>> No.3866343

>>3865972
Gen3 was the first "true" gen and when Cover finally cracked the formula gens 1 and 2 was back when they were still copying the niji formula of individual vtubers

>> No.3866447

>>3863449
I hate myself for it but I'm so into this kinda shit. I want more anon

>> No.3866730

>>3865136
I think it was said that they didn't want someone who'd be in it to sing the song because it might paint them as a main character of sorts. So it was either gonna be someone from gen5 or EN since I guess this has been in the works for a while. From there Mori's just the one who had the voice they wanted I guess. Don't ask me for a source cause I sure as hell can't remember which stream it was.

>> No.3866809
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3866809

>>3863376
So what would even be the premise of this non-existent anime?
A real world city is isekai'd to some sort of fantasy world?

>> No.3866815

>>3866447
you're not alone anon...
you're not alone...

>> No.3866991

It's going to be a musical film in a similar vein to what daft punk did with Interstella 5555

>> No.3866999

>>3865972
Because gen 3 shits on every other gen, they are the stars of hololive

>> No.3867096

>>3866999
Only Pekora and Marine are stars, the rest are deadweight, thus the whole Gen is compromised.

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>>3863376
This stuff takes time. I'm sure we'll see more of it soon.
Time is also the reason there is no hololive game yet, gacha or not.
Hololive exploded in popularity from 2019 to 2020
I'm sure they have several things they want to do

>> No.3867147

>>3864047
Ame has a gun, so how broken are firearms on Hololive universe?

>> No.3867201

Gib me that powerlevel sceenie

>> No.3867217

>>3863421
>>3863945
Has there been anything further on that moron? Or has he just slunk away until people forget who he is and then he'll come scuttling back into the light?

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>>3867147
Roboco is like an ultimate weapon type shit

>> No.3867237

>>3865105
>extremely broken but pretty much useless
So essentiually Gura now as a vtuber

>> No.3867267

>>3867233
does botan have gun in her lore or it's just fanart stuff?

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>>3865972
>>3866343
Gen 3 is always considered to be the closest knit gen.
And they are the most consistent lore wise, they get a ton of that fanart and comics of them all together.
More than any of the other gens.

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3867379

>>3867233
Didn't they technically just "find" Roboco in lore and Rikka's an attempt at copying that or something?

>> No.3867419

>>3867267
In her 3D reveal she opened up her stash of firearms and explosives, even has landmines sitting on her shelf in the back.

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>>3867268
>More fanart of them together than other Gens
More than Myth? I call bullshit on that one, like 80% of all EN fanart has then together in some way.

>> No.3867484

>>3864047
What's going in this art? Can someone describe this shit to me please?

>> No.3867580

>>3867484
Looks like Mori was gonna reap Ollie's soul but Rushia, a necromancer, stopped her to bring her back as the zoombie we have now.

>> No.3867644

>>3867445
You don't watch holos other than EN don't you, anon?

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3867771

>>3867445
I was referring to the rest of the JP gens.
I don't think they have anything planned in Alternative for EN, ID or Stars.
Myth has lore just as consistent as Fantasy.
But Fantasy has been around longer, so of course they're going to have more fan material.

>> No.3867810

>>3867580
Ollie wore that ridiculous dress to her death? Wtf was she doing when she died?

>> No.3867864

>>3867445
yes, they have more

>> No.3867882

>>3867379
>Rikka
Oooooh so that's why I saw a bolt on geekjack for Rikka yesterday. I never looked up his lore.

>> No.3867896

>>3867268
i think gen 5 is probably closer-knit than gen 3 at this point. probably closer than any other gen because of the circumstances

>> No.3867942

>>3867147

>>3867419
>>3867379
Yeah. Aside from time powers, Ame is basically powerless. Botan and Roboco beat her in the firepower department, and powered beings like Haachama surpass her even in her own game:
>>3864838

Ame isn't as strong as you think. Neither are the rest of HoloEN as detailed in the post above. You guys just think they're OP because you don't know the full extents of HoloJP members' poweress since you understand Japanese and/or havn't watched their streams.

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>>3867810

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>>3867896
Yeah, gen5 has been through a lot.
But seeing them interact is a treat, and they really seem to care a lot about each other and i always love to see that

>> No.3868169

>>3867942
Ame is as strong as her gadgets. So without it she's a normal human carrying a glock.

>> No.3868199

>>3868169
Same goes for batman and look what plotarmor did for him.

>> No.3868393

>>3868199
Yeah but if everyone in HoloAlt has plot armor then really no one has plot armor.
If they were fighting a joker equivalent then send in the girl with the glock but fighting a darkseid equivalent you send in the superman, not batman.

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3868475

you guys forget sakura miko has Electricity Manipulation
https://youtu.be/XY6uIGC_m2o
https://youtu.be/GqQNLu1qcJQ

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>>3868475
Miko is also apparently also a god according to this page:
https://omniversal-battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/Sakura_Miko

>In her debut, she describes herself as being a shrine maiden who's main goal is the maintain the shrine and serve Kami. It's later revealed that Miko isn't just a servant of Kami, but the physical form of Kami, whom of which was exposed to cute culture, animation, games, and many other humanly things that made them want to become an idol. Sakura's true form is that of Kami, a primordial god who is responsible for the creation of the universe and all worlds present in Hololive's expansion reality.

I'm not sure how valid this information is, but there's definely a "God Miko" thing going on. Like her New Years stream this year for example. So Miko should realistically be one of the most powerful beings in all of hololive, along with HAACHAMA and Super Hyper Ultra Ultimate Deluxe Perfect Amazing Shining God 東方不敗 Master Ginga Victory Strong Cute Beautiful Galaxy Baby 無限 無敵 無双 NENECHI.

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>>3868475
Miko is also apparently also an Elder God according to this page:
https://omniversal-battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/Sakura_Miko

>In her debut, she describes herself as being a shrine maiden who's main goal is the maintain the shrine and serve Kami. It's later revealed that Miko isn't just a servant of Kami, but the physical form of Kami, whom of which was exposed to cute culture, animation, games, and many other humanly things that made them want to become an idol. Sakura's true form is that of Kami, a primordial god who is responsible for the creation of the universe and all worlds present in Hololive's expansion reality.

I'm not sure how valid this information is, but there's definely a "God Miko" thing going on. Like her New Years stream this year for example. So Miko should realistically be one of the most powerful beings in all of hololive, along with HAACHAMA and Super Hyper Ultra Ultimate Deluxe Perfect Amazing Shining God 東方不敗 Master Ginga Victory Strong Cute Beautiful Galaxy Baby 無限 無敵 無双 NENECHI.

>> No.3868959

>>3863421
Well, the upside is he's gone. Hate his drawing style.

>> No.3869158

>>3867976
She'd probably like that

>> No.3869159

I liked how Lamy made all that fanfiction about her being a traitor

>> No.3869525

>>3868949
So everyone's divine, demonic or otherwise supernatural or high tech (or an animal with guns or powers or some shit).
Who's canonically normal?
Subaru's just owns an MMA gym and is the manager of an e-sports team. Says nothing about her being an MMA fighter.
Sora's just a girl isn't she? Ankimo's more canonically magical than her.

>> No.3869527

>>3863376
The fact theres so much lore and discussion from a 30 second trailer and some twitter posts is astounding.

>> No.3869616

>>3869527
The girls all have lore about themselves already, so there is also that to add into the speculations on HololiveAlt.

>> No.3869660

>>3869525
Matsuri is just a regular girl too in terms of lore.

>> No.3869721

>>3865448
I think you're delusional if you think they'd never be in these

>> No.3869742

>>3869616
It's just really interesting the people that dive into the frames to uncover more stuff about the lore. I always love stuff like that.

>> No.3869866

>>3869721
More like realistic, EN never gets invited to these type of things, even when they had their big sports festival where everyone else showed up.

>> No.3869921

>>3869866
>comparing a MC event that happened when they just got finished settling in to a multi media project that can easily just have someone draw a EN girl in a manga
Again, you're delusional.

>> No.3870004

>>3863376
This is some serious schizoposting

>> No.3870116

>>3867942
Well, JP has angels, demons and 1600 years old necromancer. But EN has Cthulhu, Aqualoli and a shinigami. It's pretty even.

>> No.3870238

>>3867810
I refuse to believe Ollie's death was not absolutely messed up given her stitches, the messed up eye, and the sword lodged into her head.

>> No.3870433

>>3869525
AFAIK, Sora, Matsuri and Marine are just regular girls.

- Matsuri claims to be GOD but there's nothing to back this up and there's absolutely nothing special about her to suggest this could be true.
- Suisei might actually be a comet (she apparently ages once every 250 years and has said that she's not human in the past)
- AZKI and Aqua are virtual beings according to their lore and debut stream.
- Subaru is debatable since she can canonically transform into a duck and claims to be multiple different species of birds:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/HololiveJapanGenerationTwo
- Not sure if you can count Noel as normal or not since she is so strong that she can yeet Coco in dragon form away like it was nothing.
- Luna can canonically use magic, as shown in her 3D debut and Hologra debut.
- Not JP but Moona & Hoshinova are Moon Goddesses:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqoVcBhK2TA

Yeah. Normal human beings are actually reaaaally rare in hololive.

>> No.3870656

>>3865448
Promotion of HoloAlt and HoloMyth sounds like a good reason

>> No.3870713

>>3864047
I think you can make most of Hololive similarly broken, especially by just buffing their henchmen to compensate. For example, Amelia could have Watson Industries providing her various overpowered equipment, or Gura could be princess of Atlantis with a strong military under her command.

>> No.3870758

>>3869525
>Sora
>Azki?
>Subaru

The ratio between humans and non-humans in Stars is much more even.
>Miyabi?
>Izuru
>Roberu
>Arurandeisu
>Temma (If you count knights as normal)

>> No.3870831

>>3865448
I'm sure they'll be in eventually, especially if Alternative is supposed to be a "thing" past what they have in the works at this moment. Just like Gen 5 despite there being no hint of any of them in the initial trailer.

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>>3867942
I think it'd be fair to assume Ame has some skill in hand to hand combat and isn't totally untrained
but slightly more capable physically than the average normal human.
and given her experience with time travel, she could logically give herself even more physical training.
plus looking at what she's up against in gen lore, investigating a reaper, a cult priestess, a phoenix and an Atlantean.
I think she'd know well enough after enough time, how to deal with them in confrontation.

You could make cases like this for any of the other "normal humans" in hololive
And I think the time travel wasnt even a part of Ame's lore at first but she added it in not too long after debut.
your own headcanon will also play a role when interpreting official lore

>> No.3870996

>>3870433
>Aqua are virtual beings
Wait what? Wasn't aqua just a "marine maid" whatever the fuck that is?
>Subaru is debatable since she can canonically transform into a duck and claims to be multiple different species of bird
That's not canon though. Subaru being an mma/esports enthusiast is canon. Subaru got shamed and then gaslighted into the whole duck thing because of people making fun of her voice so much she went to a doctor to see if there was anything abnormal about her. She "embraces" it now as people seem to like it but I don't buy that she's 100% all that fond with it yet. Not that she'll say anything about it especially now.

>> No.3871063

>>3870758
Azki only exists in in cyberspace and electronic media. She could potentially be deleted if you pulled out the plug fast enough.

>> No.3871292

>>3870996
>Wasn't aqua just a "marine maid" whatever the fuck that is?
Literally in her bio:
>A marine maid-styled virtual maid. She is trying her very best, yet is still sometimes awkward and clumsy.

And not just that, she calls herself virtual many times too in her own stream.

>That's not canon though.
How is it not canon when you literally sees her as a duck? Take the following scenes for example:
https://twitter.com/Breakers_JP/status/1136201256832102400
https://youtu.be/z2GNKZY7Ho0?t=316
https://youtu.be/p9k8A3XzH68?t=332

How do you explain this? She's literally a duck in both hololive streams (their main form of content) and crossover media. It literally can't get any more canon than that.

>> No.3871440

>>3871292
>It literally can't get any more canon than that.
By canon I mean the shit they started out with in their bios. Everything else is extra stuff tacked on generated by fans.

>aqua
I've seen maybe 2 of her streams ever so I had no idea about the virtual thing. Makes a lot more sense now and the whole notion seems a whole lot less dumb than I initially believed.

>> No.3872066

>>3870923
IIRC she was just a detective that bore that Watson name and then Time travel got added and now recently we now have the existence of multiple timelines with multiple Ames that not only keep in touch with each other but also hop across timelines to visit each other (and implicitly take over to play hard segments of games that timelines Ame struggles to beat).

>> No.3872363

>>3871440
>By canon I mean the shit they started out with in their bios. Everything else is extra stuff tacked on generated by fans.
Are you implying stuff that fans come up with aren't canon or official? Dude, in that case, you can forget about Ame's time powers since that's not in her bio either. Will you be okay with that?

The bio is just a basic premise for hololive members to develop their own lore from. And many of them aren't even accurate to their character as of now. For example:

- Have you ever heard Subaru bring up the MMA club/E-sports club in stream?
- Have you ever seen Ayame saying how she's the student council president in Demonic Realm School?
- Have you ever seen Matsuri doing some actual cheerleading?
- Have you ever seen Aqua do actual maid duty?
(In fact, this conversation she had with Shion here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaTrle_-2Oo
ended up becoming official in this Hologura episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NSdYeW4cRc
)
- Watame has also eaten meat many times despite being stated as a herbivore in her profile.

I would never reject something seen in streams just because it isn't in their profile. If anything, stuff seen in streams are just as canon as the stuff in their bio since that's the only way they can realistically develop their character from the basic setting they were given at debut.

>> No.3872425

>>3872363
>Are you implying stuff that fans come up with aren't canon or official? Dude, in that case, you can forget about Ame's time powers since that's not in her bio either. Will you be okay with that?
Yes.

>> No.3873106

>>3872425
Fans didn't add Ame's time travel, she did on her own.
https://youtu.be/-M2BKL3KU9s?t=2702

>> No.3874161

>>3870116
Except that JP's top tiers are so strong they can probably solo HoloEN by themselves. Take Haachama, Miko and Luna for example.

Canonically, Haachama can:
>Create a massive number of clones of herself, at any size:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afJEpNE-Al8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViX62UtybwA
https://youtu.be/i_9xsmRez4Y?t=35

>Sever a human head with seemingly Ermac-esque telekinesis powers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzz35N-GeMM
https://youtu.be/14Gwl_0v9-w?t=205

>Survive decapitation and can remove and reattach her head at will:
https://youtu.be/Z86cMpo4SQE?t=110

>Immune to toxicity and can digest anything she can physically eat with no side effects:
https://youtu.be/8mM1XMql0N0?t=266

>Immune to electric shock, actually enjoys it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrEGWo2Qwag

>Resistant to extreme cold, can survive in Antarctica wearing her school outfit with just shivering:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RhVyx1eW28

And perhaps most importantly:
>Use "Haachama Beam" (which appears to be able to cause hallucinations/control the senses of all those affected by it, might even be a local form of reality bending):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_9xsmRez4Y

And it's not even just a hologra thing btw, Haachama Beam was a thing in her own stream already before that hologra episode.

>Powerful enough to destroy the Earth (in multiple different ways):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKriB3myCBw

>Can travel through and stop time (Haachama traveled back to February 2021 from May to follow Haato who went back in time in the previous stream):
https://youtu.be/S_M4CJgJDvk?t=2187

>Seemingly able to resurrect herself:
https://youtu.be/711J_W0-qfY?t=325
(it was shown in the feat above that she and Haato have separate bodies at this point):

>Very likely to be an Eldritch God of some kind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF8TesmjfTo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BujmzBSzQtk

And before you say "oh they're just jokes" or "she's schizo so it's not real". Let me tell you: It's definitely real since other hololive members get affected and react to her abilities seriously (like in Hologra for example). You can't argue against how the Haachama clones can physically restrain Aki, for example. Not to mention that these abilities of her are shown in both her own channel AND hologra, so they're indubitably canon.
----

Miko:
>>3868949
----

Luna:
According to her 3D debut episode, at full strength she is essentially reality-bender:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3tp4kQ081E

>> No.3874547

>>3864047
The name "HoloMyth" implies they are all overpowered mythical beasts that have attained human form through one way or another. They are all pretty busted if you consider
>Mori can't die because she's technically "already dead" and is the embodiment of death itself
>Kiara can reincarnate for all of eternity
>Ina, despite being a regular girl who transformed herself after finding the ancient ones, has their protection and access to their mythical powers
>Gura has lived for almost 10,000 years and can wield an Atlantean trident with magical powers, also, she's most likely Atlantis' current princess

The only weak one is Amelia, who is literally a regular human being with detective and medical skills, who also owns a gun, but that's pretty much it. The whole time traveler larping is a hoax invented by Ame during her early streams, and it happened because of a joke. Cover never intended to have her be as powerful or mythical as the other four. Their lore is that Ame is investigating the HoloMyth creatures and she's the protagonist of the story, "leading the investigation", but she's powerless and defenseless against those beasts. That's her struggle.

>> No.3875101

>>3874547
>is the embodiment of death itself
From bio:
>The Grim Reaper's first apprentice

How could she be the embodiment of Death when Death-sensei is her teacher?

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Speaking of Mori, what do we do with the knowledge that the girls can vaporize souls with their wholesome relationships?

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>>3874547
Mori is not THE Grim Reaper she is AN apprentice of the Grim Reaper
Ame's time travel honestly might as well be official lore at this point, as well as all of her times crossing paths with Mori before this point.

also see >>3870923

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>>3868030

Kinda wish I saved the pic of all of them doing the scene form One piece with Aloe as Nefertiti

>> No.3876289

>>3874547
Only if you really, like REALLY, want the lovecraft vibe. I don't think the nips are into lovecraft as much as they're into junji ito.

For Ame, my guess is that she wants to be a mis-mash of British stereotypes being bits of Bond, Holmes, Python, Wells, Livingston, Ringo, Attenborough and more. I'm fine with that even though the accent was the biggest let down (and im still bitter).

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>>3876139
this one, right? its not too hard to find

>> No.3877001

>>3876139
that was kind of fucked up though, Gura accidentally left the room number uncovered and that schizo joins using that name,
the others were clearly very uncomfortable.

>> No.3877437

>>3874161
Hololive alternative isn't accounting for stream lore you donut

>> No.3879284

>>3867445
>More than Myth?
myth doesnt have any lore, you faggot.
whereas fantasy has lore inbetween them.

>> No.3880900

ITT: retards

Hololive alternative doesn't necessarily follow the lore from this world. That's the whole premise of "Alternative".

>> No.3881519

>>3880900
It's true, characters in HoloAlt are confirmed to have different origins and backstories than the stream canon but since no HoloAlt material have been released yet, the best we could do is speculate based on their powers and feats from the stream canon. Because otherwise there's nothing to talk about.

>> No.3881575

>>3881519
when and where was that ever stated?

>> No.3881768

>>3864909
That's some bullshit anon Wolverine isn't not even close to an omega level mutant his regenerative powers are not special

>> No.3882048

>>3866991
Don't give me hopes anon that would be too kino

>> No.3882183

>>3875605
That explains why /u/shitters are subhumans

>> No.3882771

>>3874547
They really should canonize Ame's time travel and super speed though.

They could use her gremlin noise for time travel sound effect.

>> No.3882912

>>3881768
He can come back from bone marrow after face-tanking a nuke.

>> No.3882957

>>3881575
Literally: https://alt.hololive.tv/en

>spoonfeeding
I know, but sometimes slapping a face straightens morale.

>> No.3883394

>>3882957
that says nothing at all about them having different origins or backstories

>> No.3883776

>>3874547
>The whole time traveler larping is a hoax invented by Ame during her early streams, and it happened because of a joke. Cover never intended to have her be as powerful or mythical as the other four. Their lore is that Ame is investigating the HoloMyth creatures and she's the protagonist of the story, "leading the investigation", but she's powerless and defenseless against those beasts. That's her struggle.
Except that Cover have never stated their lore can't change, and they in practice have no say in what's canon and what's not in their lore. Let's pick an obvious example: If what you say is true, then explain why they let this scene happen in Holo Fes 2 (an idol concert, one of the most official events they could feasibly have):
https://youtu.be/mZ0sJQC8qkE?t=112

Are you going to tell me they intended Subaru to be associated with ducks from the very beginning? You can't refute this. This proves that even things created entirely by fans can become fully official, invalidating your statement.

>> No.3884287

How would they handle graduations? Kill them off? I could see Aloe being frozen in Carbonite until "the day".

>> No.3884878

>>3883394
Not that anon, but:
>This is a project that will create an alternative world that you never knew existed before, yet had always imagined being.

And that's not all. If you look at the picture posted by OP >>3863376, in the top-left corner:
>The worldview talked about in the Hololive Alternative Project will be a further extension of the HOLOEARTH CHRONICLES Worldwide

There are other things that prove HoloAlt characters are not the same ones as the streamers we know, but the biggest one IMO is that Alt Mio, Fubuki and Ayame live in Yamato, a HOLOEARTH CHRONICLES-exclusive fantastical country, while Stream Mio and Fubuki lived their life in Japan. e.g.:
https://youtu.be/zN3J1YW9fDc?t=795

In addition, stream Ayame hails from Makai. This also contradicts the above information.

There's also the fact that their species are most liekly different across the two canons. Stream Mio and Fubuki are wolfman and kitsune respectively:
https://youtu.be/_3vvvz2r-MM?t=76
https://youtu.be/zN3J1YW9fDc?t=996

but in HOLOEARTH CHRONICLES (and HoloAlt by extension) they're heavily implied to be shrine gods of sorts.

>> No.3885068

>>3874161
https://omniversal-battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/Akai_Haato_(Haachama)

>> No.3885137

>>3863376
>Would EN and ID even be included?

as cameos maybe
its for holo jp fans anyway.

>> No.3885302

Haachama is basically Cartman when it comes to superpowers.

>> No.3885458

>>3885068
Omniversal battlefield and VS wiki are good for gathering feats, but I honestly wouldn't take what they say seriously. They sketches implications to the logical extreme to make everyone as powerful as possible could, ignoring the fact that implications =/= facts. Some of the things they come up with are honestly so stupid to be honest.

>> No.3888116

>>3867810
Getting killed

>> No.3888208

>>3867379
Sauce for music please

>> No.3888360

>>3863376
>Would EN and ID even be included?
It depends what the fuck they do with HoloALT. Is it one story canon or is it treated similarly to a western comic universe where there multiple universes and takes on the same characters and stories?

>> No.3888405

>>3863489
>Who would even be the main villain though?
EN or whoever makes a villain themed gen

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>>3863577
>it's probably gonna be an oc
Maybe these two

>> No.3888698

>>3888405
I could see the main villain being some OC with arcs being about some girls having misunderstandings.

Akai Haato/Haachama is Marx from Kirby.

>> No.3888707

>>3888360
I think what you said about the multiverse thing could work, several different disconnected stories about different gens or groups
it could also be so each gen comes from their own universe and get mashed together BlazBlue style or something
They could add ID and EN later on or start projects for them specifically.
>>3888405
i don't think they would make any of the holos villains, itd be some weird generic alien/monster force/demonic entity

>> No.3889505

>>3888208
https://youtu.be/JO5w5PnugIs

>> No.3889552

>>3889505
Thanks

>> No.3889694

>>3888707
>i don't think they would make any of the holos villains
Yeah, as much as I like Haachama, Suisei and Lamy (traitor Lamy) be a villain, I think some really hardcore fans would take offense to that. Though I can see characters like Pekora, Miko, Shion and Ayame being temporary villains who join the side of good later, which would be pretty dope.

>> No.3889844

>>3889694
Haato could be an ally with a troublesome alter that needs to be dealt with.

>> No.3891092

>>3889844
That would be my dream implementation of Haatochama in HoloAlt to be honest. I would be so happy if they decide to go with that.

>> No.3891173

>>3863577
Anyone have that Alt fan manga with the girls encountering monstrous Yagoo in a cave I think?

>> No.3891521

>>3891173
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/4526736?q=pool%3A17119 ?

>> No.3891957

>>3891521
Thank you kindly.

>> No.3892197

>>3888698
I could see Hachaama as a Magalor situation where she gets the lead to beat Haato for her so she can take over and become powerful.

>> No.3892229

>>3867096
>Rushia deadweight
>Current frontrunner on SC earnings
ogey

>> No.3892734

>>3888360

They could easily do a story for each gen like Noel leading a Gen3 adventuring party in a fantasy setting or Gamers in a modern slice of life style story following these Shinto Gods

>> No.3895875

>>3892229
nobody likes her tho

>> No.3895985

>>3895875
>opinions
Anon, she is number 3 in her generation. If she was dead last like Kiara in her unit, I would understand, but It's clear that Rushia is well received by the audience by subs AND views. That she also take the superchat crown in her unit serves as a testament of how good she is.

>> No.3897331

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RxlzJWWzdY
may 21
LETS GOOOOOOOOO i dont have hope desu

>> No.3897346

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RxlzJWWzdY

Well, you asked and received uh?, Nice.

>> No.3897381

>>3863376
https://youtu.be/3RxlzJWWzdY
https://youtu.be/3RxlzJWWzdY
https://youtu.be/3RxlzJWWzdY
2 DAYS

>> No.3897432

These threads are going to become rrat dens in 2 days.

>> No.3897477

>>3897432
But it's already a rrat den now. Any more and it'll become a rrat sanctuary.

>> No.3897529

>>3895985
no, the other holos don't like her

>> No.3897556

deserves its own thread, no?

>> No.3897652

>>3867217
He disappeared for a little while and suddenly appeared again a few months later, tweeting and posting artworks as if nothing happened.
He never mentioned that shitstorm ever again and completely stopped doing anything related to Marine and Hololive in general.

>> No.3897708

>>3897556
>>3897436

>> No.3897725

>>3897529
Source?

>> No.3897824

Korone is the Saitama of hololive

>> No.3897845

>>3897652
Still can't believe he threw away everything.

>> No.3897971

>>3897845
What's the general consensus for why he sperged out? People said it was because he signed a contract but demanded more money but I also saw people blame Cover

>> No.3897991

>>3874161
You could always say that this is happening in Haachama's head.

>> No.3898032

>>3897971
Nobody knows and the ones who do aren't telling. The general concensus is that Mizuryu disagreed with some contract terms after signing it and wanted to change some terms and cover refused so he decided to sperg out on twitter instead of handling it like a pro, but for the actual details you need to either be a cover insider or be Mizuryu

>> No.3898372

>>3874161
>>3897991
Haachama is clinically insane and bipolar, which is explained by all of the other Holos now knowing about the Haato x Haachama stories and seeing her as normal, since she only reveals her true self in private.

>> No.3898657

>>3874161
One explanation for the Haato clones being materialized is that her seiso side is such a perfect representation of an idol that it becomes infectious and turns others into Haato clones, which sounds very likely considering the Hologra. Everything else, even how she sees her fans as Haatons, happens in her head from her insanity.

>> No.3898950

I would honeslty welcome Hachaama as the villain of HoloAlt only to learn that she had a rough past being abandoned by her parents and sister, Amelia, that she had long forgotten.

>> No.3899119

>>3865136
Kfp hands typed this. Your oshi has a grating voice that she even hates herself

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Am i the only one that's kind of disappointed in how generic coco's dragon design is.
Was expecting a more western or chinese head design compared to the isekai design we have

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>>3899285
Who gives a shit? You only see her for like 2 seconds in the teaser and you probably won't see her in that form that often in the first place.

>> No.3902317

>>3897381
OH SHIT!

>> No.3902356

>>3897725
She always streams over her senpai and kouhai's special streams when every single other holo abstains from doing so out of respect and her only answer to this when her own subs called her out on it was
>oh but my manager said i could ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
she's a bitch.

>> No.3902567

>>3902356
I feel that too more nowadays.
Fandeads are blinded by the power of GFE

>> No.3902671

>>3866809
Duh, SOL with cute girls doing cute things. The whole stizch hololive pitched to normies is "these are anime girls live streaming"

>> No.3902852

>>3902567
well she played the
>oh poor me you stiww wuv me don't you?
and her chat immediately forgets about her bullshit.
disgusting

>> No.3903008

>>3897708
>Thread is nothing but NijiEN and Holostars shitposting
Nah, bro, this is the thread.

>> No.3905542

This is truly rrats paradise.

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