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And EN as a whole by releasing EN3

>> No.38510342

We can start by first graduating mori,burying ina properly and forcing shork to stream more.

>> No.38510356

>>38510225
why won't cover bot the others too?

>> No.38510406

What, so Cover can just suspend the hag for fighting back against management?

>> No.38510427

>>38510225
>don't stream
>only ones to gain subscribers
What did we mean by this?

>> No.38510577

>>38510427
Well the other options are literall Mori and Ame. and Kiara who I think deserves some love but it seems everyone just kinda forgot about or something.

>> No.38510872

>>38510427
scarcity increases value

>> No.38510884

>>38510225
Am enjoying myself watching council, if any of the myth streams then I'll watch them. Myth who still streams are still doing good actually, you just need to stop comparing their current numbers to their 2020 numbers.
Getting En3 will "save" HoloEn on the dead hours they're not streaming, but it will unironically kill myth because some of the fans will move to the new kids on the block.

>> No.38510943

>>38510225
>gets en3
>1 month later
>doesn't stream
>>38510427
They're the only good ones

>> No.38511136

>>38510884
Current myth deserves to die.

>> No.38512484

Anon just move on, the Golden Age has passed and you should just accept it

>> No.38512548

>>38510225
wtf, these songs are still making big views

>> No.38512635

>>38510225
People still clinging to Hololive or Nijisanji EN are some of the dumbest motherfuckers that ever got into this "hobby".
Nijisanji is a collection of literal TRASH twitch streamers with the exact same culture...only behind an anime avatar.
Holo EN were cute uwu girls that provided something that their JP counterparts did, to an english audience, until they went
>Nahhhh fuck this cringe shit I'll act however I want, collab with whoever I want YAS KWEEN SLAY WHATS UP NIG ITS YA BOY SHERRIF SHREK ADAM SANDLER MYYYYYYY NIGGGGGGGG!!!

>> No.38512684

>>38512635 (me)
Fauna is the only good one btw she can piss directly into my mouth.

>> No.38512909

>>38510225
Cover needs some hard workers.

>> No.38513047

>>38510427
I suspected Takos were botting Ina because she was getting Gura numbers in stream where nothing happened, this just makes me more suspicious because once you don't post shit you stop existing for the youtube algorithm.

>> No.38513864

>>38512635
Who else are you supposed to watch anyway, and if you answer with VSlutshow I will-

>> No.38513922

>>38513864
There's an infinite number of indies

>> No.38514017

>>38513922
Watching indies is like playing unranked

Okay I don't personally believe that but I guarantee you many viewers basically have that feeling

>> No.38514114

>>38513922
Indies graduate quickly
They don't have the numbers so their mental health is deteriorating

>> No.38514160

>>38514114
There's a ton of indies who have been going for almost two years.

>> No.38514212

Indies are nice but I crave the need for a group, unity and girls with goals.
Additional points if they don't hate themselves

>> No.38514318

>>38514212
Look at the smaller corpos then. It's not like you'll find group, unity and girls with goals in HoloEN or NijiEN.

>> No.38514327

Have the Discord Troons run out of Gift cards or why is there no "tEmpUsS iS eN3" comments anymore?

Cmon dudes, you're only dedicated to your sidegig when the money flows?

>> No.38514330

>>38514212
Small corpos. Which you probably won't watch either because it isn't Hololive.
You were offered multiple outs yet you still want to stay with your sinking ship. So please, sit down, relax and enjoy your ride to the fullest. You deserve it.

>> No.38514344
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38514344

i love my oshi who ACTUALLY STREAMS

>> No.38514400

Gift card farming thread.

>> No.38514462

>>38510225
Imagine losing to a girl who's been on leave for 2 months.

>> No.38514589
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>>38513864
Veibae.

>> No.38514643

>>38510225
>Watson losing in daily views to someone that hasn't streamed in almost 2 months
grim

>> No.38514859

>>38514318
>>38514330
Bullshit. Smaller corpos chuubas tend to hate each other the most because their companies can't give them the same opportunities and tend to play favorites.

>> No.38514913

>>38514859
And that doesn't apply to NijiEN and HoloEN?

>> No.38514981
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>>38513864

>> No.38515038
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38515038

Threadly reminder that Tempus was en3.

What you want is en 4.

>> No.38515054

>>38512635
>Nijisanji is a collection of literal TRASH twitch streamers with the exact same culture
This is english vtubers for 90% of the time anon.
English vtubers do not understand what makes vtubing special, and just do regular streaming behind a 2d avatar.

>> No.38515909

>>38510225
only gura is worth saving, the rest can rot in hell with omegay and tempiss

>> No.38516040

>>38510884
There is irony that Cover and their inability to reconsider past decisions has caused constant fights with Myth but that is helping Myth as well. Cover already decided that T3MPUS would be promoted as though they were EN3 and that decision means that we won't see the next EN gen for at least 6 months.

>> No.38516099

No, no more EN. Release JP gen 7 so I can get a new oshi.

>> No.38516275

>>38512635
That's why the only EN member I watch is IRyS. She's basically a JP member who speaks english.

>> No.38516335

>>38510225
I JUST WANT FRENCH ACCENT OSHI AHHHHHHHHH

>> No.38516407

>>38510225
>save these lazy whores by hiring even more lazy whores

>> No.38516593

>>38510342
Let's also disband Tempus for good measure.

>> No.38516666
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>>38516335

>> No.38517095

>>38510225
>still top 1% streamers in the world
None of them are in need to be saved

>> No.38517147

>>38510225
How come the more you stream the less subs you get?

>> No.38520384

>>38512635
Because there's no other good chuuba to watch anon.
>here watch her instea-
No, I will not watch your 2view/3view shit.

>> No.38520491

>>38517147
Now compare their VOD growth in the last 30 days.
Youtube don't pay you for your subs

>> No.38520523

>>38520384
Then starve.

>> No.38520695

>>38510577
It’s her voice and choice of games. Her content that gets the most views is Holotalk, and I imagine the views from those are probably from people who like the JP girl being interviewed.

>> No.38520704

>>38515054
And japanese is different because
>it's ok when japan does it
Ok ken-san, there are plenthy of kawaii uwu pure japanese vtubers that put to shame "twitch e-girl" in slut department or behaviour

>> No.38520763

>>38514913
Big corpos fight over numbers if they're retarded, which is something the agency itself can't control. I don't know about niji, but I know for sure that holos get the same stuff, some JPs talked about not being able to buy streaming assets because the management didn't want to make viewers think they play favorites.

>> No.38520843

>>38520384
It’s idiots like you that explain why all the good vtubers are so small. At this point, there’s no difference in quality between the average HoloEN and the average small corpo, you’re just deluding yourself because it’s the one you’re familiar with.
I’m not even going to say which vtubers in small corpos I watch, because then you’d accuse me of shilling. I’m commenting simply to show how utterly flabbergasted I am that people are STILL parroting this retarded talking point. People actually think HoloEN has the best EN vtubers, *still*?

>> No.38521108

EN3 would do worse than council and most of their subs and viewers would just be current EN fans watching someone else and making math and council numbers even lower

>> No.38521562

>>38521108
That would certainly be a win in its own right. Myth reclining would be the best thing that happened to both EN vtubing and HoloEN. People who don’t stream deserve to lose fans.

>> No.38521635

>>38514643
Maybe if she didnt clearly hate everyone who shows up to watch her she would have more views

>> No.38521816

>>38514859
try idol corp, they actually like eachother and their collabs feel like watching old myth.

>> No.38521960

>>38521816
>giving money directly to hebrews

>> No.38521981 [DELETED] 

>>38521960
Nothing wrong with that seanigger

>> No.38522043

>how do we save our company? Do we focus on our talents and find ways to make them prosper?
>No, just release a bunch of new talents and let the old ones rot
A nijifag made this thread

>> No.38522062

>>38521981
You are foolish if you think that "gods chosen people" wont start injecting their social engineering and demoralization campaigns into their vtubers like they have every single other time they have gotten involved in an entertainment industry

>> No.38522130

>>38520695
she's a girl girl, but trying to target guys viewers
she should just try a month or 2 doing just things she likes to see the outcome

>> No.38522167

>>38522062
Go back to watching Fox senpai leave vtuber watching to the good looking people

>> No.38522267

>>38522062
>>>/pol/

>> No.38522663

>>38510225
RELEASE EN3

>> No.38522756

>>38510225
EN3 would be great for ENs numbers, but don't expect it to save anyone. If your solo content doesn't exist or is difficult to access you'll miss the wave. The only ones that'd take advantage of it might be CounciIyRS.

>> No.38522842

>>38512548
Somewhat, but Mori hasn't had view numbers this low since 2020. They were 4~10 million higher between the start of 2021 and a bit post-Q.

>> No.38523377

>>38510225
Just need to release EN3 and accept the fact that Myth has grown bored of streaming.

>> No.38524718

Stop watching these fluent whores and start watching vtubers that can barely speak english

>> No.38525975

>>38510225
myth has to save themselves

>> No.38526796

>>38512635
Based and correct

>> No.38527811

>>38510225
>Ina managed to gain enough subs in a month to count as a 10k increase despite being away for over a month
>chicken still has less subs than her

Some things never change.

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38528073

Imagine killing the most successful western vtuber group for this

>> No.38529395

>>38514327
You realize that kind of comment is not the "deal with it chud" type but more of "due to poor management planing this is reality and releasing an actual EN3 in less than 6 months of steady decline from here on without half assing it seems imposible".

>> No.38529518

>>38522043
Seems to have worked for JP, imagine if they had stopped at gamers

>> No.38533397

>>38510342
This sounds like a bad idea to save them anon

>> No.38533435

>>38528073
Sad

>> No.38533582

>>38510577
There's maybe 3000 people in all of Europe that watch vtubers. Even Gura would be struggling at Euro hours.

>> No.38533741

>>38510225
my oshi isn't even streaming and still number 2. The state of Myth and HoloEN.

>> No.38534283

how THE FUCK is Ina still getting so many new subs?

>> No.38534375

>>38534283
Stable Octopus Destination even in death

>> No.38534383

>>38534283
You though takos being part of a cult was kayfabe?

>> No.38534408

gonna laugh my ass off when enstars 2 comes out before en3 on the tail of vesper's graduation crippling the en branch forever

>> No.38534433

Honestly, it rubs me the wrong way how much Ina is ghosting her fans when they care so much for her.

>> No.38534511

>>38534433
her twitter was always pretty much used only to announce frames for streams and then thank takos for watching, no surprise there's no much activity once she doesnt stream

>> No.38534535

>>38534283
Violet also has 4M views now.

>> No.38534589

>>38534511
That doesn't mean she couldn't use it to tweet something about her daily life during her hiatus, specially after saying she wouldn't just disappear
Seriously, I don't understand what's going on

>> No.38534801

>>38534433
If they still stick around then it means they're not bothered by it.

>> No.38536943

>>38534433
Ina doesn't benefit in any way by staying radio silent for 8 weeks and this is causing her to slowly lose fans. That one of the RM accounts for a hololive talent said that they were trapped by what they can't say and were asking for patience shows there is heavy stuff going on behind the scenes. Cover seems to have major problems negotiating with foreign employees but if that doesn't change there might be another holoEN graduation.

>> No.38537508

>>38536943
Ina is dead anon, the rest of EN is terrified they may be next.

>> No.38537665

>>38516666
>quebecois

>> No.38538341

Who is stronger: a Phoenix using an array of multiple streams per week on a variety of games, or a dead octopus carcass dried on the sidewalk. The answer might surprise you.

>> No.38539090

>>38534801
I am bothered by it. But what am I supposed to do? Cancel membership? Unsub? Unfollow?
I do want her to get back, but I am not rabid about it.
She must be content and healty, otherwise what would be the point? She won't have fun and me neither

>> No.38539181

>>38539090
>Cancel membership? Unsub? Unfollow?
Basically yeah. Find someone else there's a ton of other vtubers out there.

>> No.38539378

>>38539181
Sure there are. And I watch some occasionally. But none of them is Ina.

>> No.38539436

>>38539378
You just have to get over your oneitis. I used to think Ina was the best around over a year ago but I don't think I have watched any of her streams this year.

>> No.38539669

>>38510225
>release EN3
Tempus is EN3, no matter how many times (You) seethe.

>> No.38539742

I miss the days of Myth collabs. AmeSame barely happens anymore, Ina and Gura haven’t collabed 1-1 since Portal 2 which they never finished, and that was debut year. We rarely see everyone in myth collab together anymore, and if they do they try and get it over with as soon as possible. Even Ame’s Halloween event, which is usually one of the few times everyone gets together for the fans to enjoy, didn’t have most of EN. It’s just sad bro’s, I miss them. I miss the dog days of Holo EN.

>> No.38539792

>>38539436
>You just have to get over your oneitis.
No.
I like what I like. And if this is where my time with vtubers ends, that's all right.
I just miss watching her streams while I work. But, thank you for concern.
Still funny thou, that she is no.2 while not streaming at all.

>> No.38543811

>>38539792
So long

>> No.38544931

>>38510427
Hard work is a lie anon.
Gura and Ina have always been the most popular despite being lazy sacks of shit.

While the ones that work their butt off like Mori, Kiara, Bae or Amelia are in the negatives

>> No.38545273

It's time to move on. Late 2020 is never coming back again.
EN3 won't rekindle that flame either. Treasure the memories of those early days, but accept the fact that the past is behind us.

>> No.38545540

>>38539669
>ignoring the existence of Tempus is seething

You have to understand, some of us simply do not care about holostars. Outside of this board, they functionally don't exist to me

>> No.38546235

>>38533582
Anon, fucking Vesper was doing better in Kiara's Euro timeslot than she was

>> No.38546515

>>38510427
Gura is just that good. Nothing more or less, she's just a talent

>> No.38547185

>>38510225
5 more minutes :*)

>> No.38547642

>>38510225
>14 more weeks until shark reach 5 mil
It's so hard carrying the whole EN on her little back

>> No.38550493

>>38516275
her way of speaking is not japanese at all though

>> No.38553838

>>38550493
I meant in the sense that she didn't join Hololive and then decide she doesn't like their culture and insist on doing things her way, abandoning the successful model JP members have laid out.
She seems to embrace the same mentality as the JP girls. Among all the EN members she seems motivated and has aspirations of growing her own channel within Hololive. She actually regularly streams, usually for fairly long times if you count her reading superchats. She regularly delivers additional content like covers or original songs. She didn't like her original model but I don't get the sense that she dislikes management, her fans, or her coworkers like I do from the other EN members.
Also she has the best japanese in EN. If she got more support from management I think IRyS could be a much larger figure in EN since she can handle multi language collabs and events. She easily had a 3.5 hour collab with Flare today.

>> No.38554238

>>38512484
the fuck are you talking about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7Kh0ie2Ots

>> No.38555111

Save Gura too

>> No.38558879

>>38553838
Agree. While JP isn't all rainbow and sunshine like most would like to think, it's still better than the current disoriented state of EN. So it's nice to a have someone like IRyS and Kiara still sticking to their root and follow their senpai footstep. Probably because both of them watched JP as a fan before joining

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