EN 3 isn't happening anytime soon

[Anonymous No.]

There aren't enough indie/small corpo graduations to make me think there's a new wave ready to debut, unless cover picked up total normies. I'm quite sure I haven't missed any relevant graduation. What are your thoughts? Any interesting graduations happening soon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38394991
Graduate half of this and you got the perfect Gen 3

[Anonymous No.]

>>38395142
who would you graduate

[Anonymous No.]

I'm really curious about how EN3 auditions went because the circumstances around working for Hololive have changed so much since the first two gens.

Myth - Holo has minimal Western exposure, there's not much expectation that the EN branch will be successful.
Council - Myth was a powerhouse phenomenon, getting in gets you rich and famous.
Gen3 - Western Vtubing as a whole is seeing big numbers declines, Myth and Council seem burnt out, the restrictions placed on talents by Hololive are much more commonly known to potential applicants, game perms/promoted games dictated to the streamer, Western indies are able to get big and go full time on Twitch with almost no restrictions.

For Gen1: Noone knew what to expect, so people could apply if they were curious.
For Gen2: looking at Gen1's success, getting in would be appealing to almost any vtuber.
For Gen3: I think only a much smaller and more specific group of content creators would apply to this gen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38395533
Here:
It's the pure unicorn anti male girls only faction who matter.
Perfect gen

[Anonymous No.]

You know that the only councils that had graduations before joining was only Bae right? Hell, most of Myth weren't even chuubas. Unless you were already in a corpo, making a graduation announcement or whatever isn't needed, ffs irys is still technically active.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38395964
Mumei too, Fauna too. They all went on an indefinite hiatus/graduated.
Sana was a nepo hire so she doesn't count, and Kronii has a great voice but is clearly a fucking normie and cover won't make the same mistake with the new gen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38395670
Yeah I agree, it's not worth it anymore for big creators. If you have a significant personal project you better keep that one instead of joining a restriction fest corpo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38394991
I honestly hope they're still in the hiring process, I'd rather wait 6 more months than have to witness another Iluna situation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38399118
Unless Cover ignored every single girl applying and only paid attention to the guys they had a whole year of applications to look into, and I hate how that's a real possibility.

[Anonymous No.]

EN3, is no longer the glamour and glitz that it would have been. If Council had debuted around early summer 2021 to keep Myth's momentum going, then EN3 could have come around late 2021/early 2022, and the EN vtubing landscape would look significantly different right now.
As of now, an EN3 would have amazing debuts, but then settle in the low 4view territory like everyone else after a few weeks.

[Anonymous No.]

I disagree, current EN doesn't stream enough to satisfy demand. There's plenty of ways to recruit aside from finding successful indies, they could just go with what other employers do and just look at college degrees. It's probably a better indicator of work ethic than streaming experience anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38400360
>but then settle in the low 4view territory like everyone else after a few weeks
Depends on their quality and drive. If EN3 ends up the golden gen like HoloFantasy or ID3 with girls who actually want to stream and create content they might be bigger than current Myth, but either way they would be at least twice as popular as Tempus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38400915
This, most ex-holofans that migrated overtime don't really have anything against holo. People would come back to see something entertaining if the hires are good.

[Anonymous No.]

How many fucking times do you retards need to be told that Tempus was EN3?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38397106
Kronii was part of a small corpo and had a graduation stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38402309
And they're a huge failure as EN3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38402540
Didn't Kronii's company go under?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38402241
ID3 is already doing better than their senpai and Indonesia is a much smaller market. There's definitely room to grow in EN and anyone who keeps saying it's oversaturated is insane, but Cover needs to hire girls who want to do shit and not coast by 2 months in or graduate after barely streaming for a almost year. Hopefully with the new requirements they put on the auditions page we won't have another Sana situation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38402241
I guess I technically have “something against Holo”, and even I came back to watch IRyS’s outfit reveal. That said, I get HoloEN recommended on my feed now, which is the reason I kind of regret that…

[Anonymous No.]

>>38394991
Anyone in vtubing can see that hololive sucks to work for. So no one good is going to apply.

It's over

[Anonymous No.]

>>38395754
>Only Kiara streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>38402241
I don't have anything against Holo but I'm not coming back as long as they still have video game permission restrictions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38404564
>Indonesia is a much smaller market
Kobo is the only one who specifically targets Indonesia though, the rest of the branch are essentially honorary ENs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38404195
Yeah, like a month after.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38402309
Tempus was a huge mistake no matter the classification.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38405608
So you're never coming back. It's true that Cover is exceptionally slow at getting permissions (probably a lack of interest from part of their incompetent managers), but other than becoming more proactive they'll always have to go through this stupid bureaucracy as long as they're based in Japan. It's either that or risk having the talents losing their entire channels because a publisher decided to take action, and some times it still happens after giving permissions because of some dumb automated system or some dev mad that a streamer is playing their game.

>>38405617
Pretty much all of ID up to that point were honorary ENs but somehow Kaela and Zeta manage to get better numbers than Moona and Ollie who both have like twice the amount of subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38394991
Good, they really need to trim the fat. Dump Mori, Ame, Kronii and Tempiss. Then merge the rest of EN and add new talent one at a time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38405951
HoloEN should not be tied down by the same permission regulations as JP. They could do something like establish HoloEN as a different legal entity and then they wouldn't need to deal with this bullshit anymore.
But since they keep on hiring talents who are barely interested in video games i guess having permissions or not wouldn't really make that much of a difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38395754
Based and true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38406326
I'm sure someone would find a way to fuck them over regardless, especially when half of them don't even live in North America. But even then, as you said, it means fuck all if the girls end up playing the same stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

I just want collab restrictions done away entirely. It's clear that the girls want to collab with friends but Cover won't let them. Normally, this wouldn't be an issue, but seeing as how there's a handful of HoloEN streamers that get along well with each other, this is a big problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38395670
>Western indies are able to get big and go full time on Twitch with almost no restrictions.
You have to wonder if the holoEN applicant pool won't start skewing towards people who expect they *couldn't* quite make it big as an indie. Would be bad news.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38411613
If you look long-term, vtubing is shrinking and any mature new thing eventually shakes out competition. It's a tough road for indies. Hololive guarantees some level of success and basic support. Free advertising and viewers that would be very hard otherwise. It's the talents who waste it. Hololive has issues, but it is a decently sized business and won't just quit overnight. It'll at least decline slowly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38395670
I thought the twitch landscape was dying, i've seen a lot of streamers moving to youtube, is it different for vtubers?

[Anonymous No.]

HOLOLIVE SAVE CHAPIPI! SCOUT HER NOW!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>38402309
No they're not, you niggerfaggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38412305
Twitch increased the cut it takes with content creators, which makes them moving to YouTube a logical choice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38411243
After the Niji collabs and Magni collabing with someone from Hasan's friends cricle I doubt there's any restrictions and it's just the members not being interested in collabing with other indies or smaller agencies.

[Anonymous No.]

>Jenma scouted out Miori Celeste while visiting LA with Bae
>Sana graduating spooked EN management so every potential nepotism hire gets probed to death
>we are here

It's probably over anons. There is not enough talented westoid women that want to do their idol/stream reps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38412916
Tempus management is different and Niji is kind of an exception. But yeah, sure, some of them are too introverted to have friends outside of Hololive, but a lot of them want to have fun with friends, which can't happen.

If they can't bring in more members, they should let members collab however they want.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait until next week there’s an announcement coming

[Anonymous No.]

>>38394991
with how much Mori's RM shit on Cover, I would not be surprised if the EN3 girls just decided to not go through with their contracts.

[Anonymous No.]

It's always possible they just don't have 5 members for a new gen. Either no one is meeting the bare minimum or no one good is applying at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>38394991
>What are your thoughts?
your gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>38394991
Tempus was EN3 though

[Anonymous No.]

>be Mori
>do absolutely everything in your fucking power to get kicked out
>nothing works
>in fact continue to grow and succeed
>all collab partners love her
Why, /vt/? Her continuous, flagrant disregard for idol and otaku culture is driving me fucking crazy. This shit wouldn't have been acceptable just two years ago in hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38404943
Fauna too

[Anonymous No.]

>>38413818
>in fact continue to grow and succeed
where's the soundpost of Mori seething with her subs, CCV, etc? KEK
>all collab partners love her
Of course, she's Mori of HoloEN Myth. Wait until she goes full RM, her orbiters would suddenly disappear HAHA

[Anonymous No.]

>>38413818
Record deal. She only gets to leave if they say she can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38405951
Its because the market has openned up more and more. ID2 was also pretty low key outside of Ollie who was doing reat until fairly recently. ID3 came out well into Hololive becoming the big company and were the most accessable thing outside of a Councial that was hated by Youtubes evil AI Overlord. Kobo blew up in ID but Kaela just constantly pops out 6-12 hour marathons twice a day and got noticed for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>38413404
Mori has a record deal under her Hololive persona's name. She is unironically the least likely EN to graduate for at least a couple of years. Even the most hysterical of dramaniggers have figured that out and stopped memeing about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38413097
>Sana graduating spooked EN management so every potential nepotism hire gets probed to death
If that's the lesson they learned from Sana then they're really fucking retarded. Sana being a nepohire wasn't the problem, but how she was barely a streamer before Hololive and from the get go decided to not do art streams. Ina was the same thing but she was able to build her fanbase by doing what she's good at, while Sana decided to be a kusoge streamer and dropped that idea a couple of weeks after debut.

>>38413336
>which can't happen
Again, we don't know about that. Might be management blocking, might be just lack of interest. These girls barely collab with each other, what makes you think they would jump on the opportunity to collab with outsiders?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38394991
EN 1 and 2 are physically dying from work, the NEED EN 3

[Anonymous No.]

>>38413097
>Sana graduating spooked EN
I believe the rrat that EN3 was supposed to debut with Tempus a few months after as part of shared lore shit Omega loves doing, but the whole gen got scrapped when multiple of the accepted hires backed out because of Sana's graduation or hearing some of the frustrations of the others EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>38394991
Niji is going too fast and Holo too slow.
You'd think by now they'd have figured a sensible release schedule.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38395754
Best gen

[Anonymous No.]

WE NEED EURO VTUBERS (no br*tish)

[Anonymous No.]

>>38417463
>(no br*tish)
I'm surprised none of Tempus were bongs actually. For some reason the British accent moistens women's panties like nothing else. I have no idea why.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38418417
Male bongs are acceptable, females... eh... i wish for a french or italian chuuba

[Anonymous No.]

>>38418417
Cover is allergic to Euros. Other than Kiara who was living in Japan when she was hired they managed to only hire Americans, Canadians and for some cursed reason 3 Aussies. EN3 will probably be the exact same thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38394991
EN3 already happened. Cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38418885
also make sure you are part asian

[Anonymous No.]

>>38395754
Pretty sure Mumei has collabed with males though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38400915
>ID3
they nailed with these girls. I trust cover hiring team...but the manager team......I wonder if they knew what vtubing is

[Anonymous No.]

>>38394991
No more Mori/Kronii's. No more lazy bitches who never stream. No more traitors like Ame. We need whoever scouted Mumei/Irys/Fauna/Kiara to do the entirety of EN3 and say fuck off to anyone trying to hire another bitch who hates vtubing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38395754
>half of them have collabed with males
the only true unicorn friendly holoEN is fauna, and maybe irys

[Anonymous No.]

>>38419475
is holoID hiring team the same as holoEN? because they failed misrably at holocouncil but somehow got one of the best holoID hires just a couple months later

[Anonymous No.]

>>38419042
Yeah, I forgot that both Council and Tempus have 3 Asian members each.

>>38419475
Nah, I trust everyone but EN. They're the ones that thought Sana was a good idea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38418786
PLEASE YES

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara has been putting together EN3. The amount of indies and small corpos she's been grooming lately makes it undeniable she will have a hand in its future. It will be far better than what Ina did. Kiara understand what Hololive means to small streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38395754
Would that combo work, though?
I thought Kiwawa and IWyS detested each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38395670
Hololive isn't going to have a shortage applicants.
A majority of the applications are being binned by an automated process anyway. It's not like going from 50k applications to 10k means they're going to have issues with finding the right role for their next gen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38394991
Well only 2 members of Myth were former vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38413818
You ever consider the possibility that you might just be a schizo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38419048
Yup. Hoomans just in denial as always.

[Anonymous No.]

we need a pregnant single mother vtuber, she can be the first ever to stream during giving birth

[Anonymous No.]

>>38394991
EN 3 is T3mpus

[Anonymous No.]

>>38422822
Refer to >>38402932

[Anonymous No.]

>>38421682
Hold on guys, I need to breast feed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38394991
>EN 3 isn't happening anytime soon
its happening

[Anonymous No.]

>>38394991
Maybe they're going back to their roots and grabbing non-vtubers? Mori, Kiara, Sana, and to a lesser extent Ina IRyS and Ame were never regular vtubers weren't they? ACtually the only real regularly streaming ones were Kronii and Bae and then Fauna, right?

Hell, Magni was never one either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38395754
cool, so what if EN3 is pro-Tempus? think carefully

[Anonymous No.]

>>38413967
>where's the soundpost of Mori seething with her subs, CCV, etc? KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>38394991
Vesper has to graduate for EN 3 to happen. Coco graduated and Council happened. Sana graduated and Tempus happened. See the pattern? There needs to be a sacrifice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38440800
>Laplus
yep, EN3 coming soon

[Anonymous No.]

>>38439412
Ina had a model but barely used it, Gura also had one but her schedule was already fucked up back then and most people only knew her from her main yt channel, and Mumei was an indie vtuber.

>>38439506
If all 5 girls are pro-Stars then you can already suspect about their quality as streamers because Cover would've had picked only those who were willing to collab with them and possibly drop actual good candidates who weren't interested. There's no way the entire gen is ok with it when half of the current girls want nothing with the Stars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38439412
This guy gets it.

Hololive has always had better luck outside the existing vtuber pool. Assuming that EN3 is comjng at all, the lack of grads is a good thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38439412
Yeah, IRyS has a decade plus of content creation online and only debuted her vtuber model like 3 months before she went on hiatus. Probably just to practice streaming with a vtuber model.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38440019
Can you post the full clip? I'm not getting the context here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38394991
>unless cover picked up total normies
like Mori and Amelia?
Ina was borderline normie too

[Anonymous No.]

>>38413761
Tempus is not even Hololive though
they are holostars

[Anonymous No.]

So how does /vt/ feel about Cover publicly decrying and condemning it? Doesn't feel very good, does it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38444011
We're 4chan, the cesspool of the internet. Even if sites like 8kun and Kiwifarms have already outperformed us in that capacity, it's in our tradition, our DNA to be proud of being denounced by the things we like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38395754
boring.....next

[Anonymous No.]

>>38444011
I need ASMR of someone reading it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38394991
>There aren't enough indie/small corpo graduations
Was that an issue for Myth or Council?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38444011
And what would they do to 4Chan? Honestly, they can't do anything anyway, especially since there are established rules against "doxing" here.
Also, if you didn't realize it after all this time, several politicians and corporations from America have already failed to take 4chan down ever since the Trump election.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38412305
A few of the 3views I watch on twitch have announced they're able to quit their jobs and go full time streamer so it can't be that bad, a vtuber named anny just made over 10k with a 48 hour donothon this weekend though she is a larger indie pulling more viewers than any corpo but the big 3

[Anonymous No.]

>>38414276
her rm has been leaving hints that she's getting ready to leave for a bit now, at least that's what I'm getting from her tweets

[Anonymous No.]

>>38419475
I don't trust them, they've flubbed they last few groups, Gen 6 has rap+, council had Sana, Kobo is a yab waiting to happen and then there's that failed starsjp gen that I forget the name of and now they hired an actual sexual predator who tried to vampire rp with Mel on discord and wouldn't stop typing until he was physically restrained by his loved ones and put in a mental ward for "two weeks"

[Anonymous No.]

>>38439412
i share the board with people like you now....

[Anonymous No.]

>>38441436
of course they'll be pro-stars, Mori is somehow a god to women and she's set the precedent, there's no way any new girl is going to come in and ignore the guys when she's still swept up in all the hype of her debut and trying to please as many people as she can, the beggars will get to her immediately

[Anonymous No.]

Unironically they should just hire ironmouse she would fit in with the girls and cover could do a suisei and let her keep her model and lore

[Anonymous No.]

>>38449152
Vshojo exists no matter how much you don't want it to and it's ever growing

[Anonymous No.]

>>38448483
Gura was a VTuber, Mumei was a VTuber, Bae was a VTuber, Kronii was a VTuber, Fauna was a VTuber. They all either announced an indefinite hiatus or had a proper graduation. The only one who didn't is Gura but graduation wasn't really a thing back then. The rest of Myth aren't VTubers just because EN VTubers started to pop out after Myth. I don't think cover wants to hire more normies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38395754
What would you do for the next gen after that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38449152
ironmouse wouldn't survive not being able to roll out 7 new models a year

[Anonymous No.]

>>38419048
>>38421393
Mumei collabed with holostars once, 8 months ago… with JP’s who she can’t even talk to because she doesn’t speak JP… and then she never did it again because she realized people didn’t like it… she tripped up slightly but picked herself back up and has been a perfect idol since

[Anonymous No.]

>>38453956
Language barrier saved her from being fully tainted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38452013
Hire eurochuubas

[Anonymous No.]

>>38448969
>failed starsjp gen that I forget the name
StarsJP will always be a failure not matter what, but at least the 4 guys they got for Uproar are infinitely more interesting unlike the Twitch streamers wannabes they got for Tempus.

>>38449080
You people severely overestimate Mori's influence. If she's a fucking god everyone would've collab with Tempus by now, but Gura didn't even acknowledge their existence and she's good friends with her, Kiara already said she's not interested and unless you believe in one of the billion rrats that they hate each other they're also friends, IRyS has a freaking podcast with her and the biggest pro-Stars member from HoloEN and straight up said she wasn't interested in collabs, and both Fauna and Mumei look up to her but I don't remember if the former ever talked about the Stars and the latter completely ignored them after the Gartic collab earlier this year, and before Tempus she interacted far more frequently with StarsJP than Mori ever had. As I said unless Cover ask the possible candidates if they will collab with StarsEN and only chose those who say yes there's no way all 5 of them will do it when some of the actually popular members of EN couldn't care less about them while Mori has an horde of dead subs who barely give a fuck about her music anymore and she keeps acting like a menhera on her rm account implying that she wants to leave Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38453956
oh okay guess then theres like a cooldown period of some sort? So all other homocollabers are fine and pure too i guess if they don’t collab with homos for some duration of time huh. Well care to share what that duration of time is hooman? 3 months? 6?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38452428
Cover should just let the holos go crazy with new models as long as they get information beforehand so they can prep more merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38462850
You're so obvious that it hurts. None of you extremist unicorns are genuine at all, and I bet you're one of the fags who kept asking why Tempus wasn't on HoloFes. So what that Mumei collabed with StarsJP 8-9 months ago? Since then she never mentioned them again, she didn't act like a complete bitch to her fans like Watson or Kronii did and even if she kept interacting with them none of the JP guys are cancerous fags like your boys on Tempus. Give up, she won't interact with your precious lads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38463557
Crabs in a bucket mentality. Homobeggars know their time is over, but think if they can drag everyone down with them it will level the playing field. If everyone is a cuck then no one is. They probably think this will save Tempiss and the failures that collabed with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38448811
she's been doing that for a year now, and she's still here

[Anonymous No.]

>>38394991
EN is dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>38474605
They might as well be with how incompetent the people in charge are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38394991
Rye graduated months ago so it cant be long now

[Anonymous No.]

>>38482049
lmao she's the gura skinwalker

[Anonymous No.]

>>38482184
Wait what?
Which one??

[Anonymous No.]

>>38394991
good, shit's bloated already as is

[Anonymous No.]

>>38486030
they don't stream so it's not

[Anonymous No.]

>>38474605
Not if they add in another gen, but it has to be a good one with unique chuubas. I got tired of basic American/Aussie bitches so I'm hoping for a couple euros.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38493740
>I'm hoping for a couple euro
Keep your expectations low because it's more than likely we'll see the same configuration of Americans/Canadians/Aussies. They managed to do twice, what makes you think they won't do it 3 times?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38482049
Bro they waited so long that people that might have got intially in like her reincarnated already and then needed to start all over again with the selection process most likely

[Anonymous No.]

>>38416989
That rrat is crazy unless there's significantly less money on the table for talents than we've been led to believe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38416989
Cover does not do mixed gens you fucking mongoloids.
Thats the entire point Holostars are their own branch

[Anonymous No.]

>>38498259
Cover doesn't do mixed gens yet but a few years ago the same could be said for Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38500073
>but a few years ago the same could be said for Nijisanji
What in the god forsaken hell are you talking about? Since the very beginning Nijisanji had mixed waves/gens. NijiEN not having then for the first couple of waves doesn't mean they never did it, you fucking tourist.

[Anonymous No.]

EN schizos are pretty fucking retarded, good god i truly hope EN dies soon so you all go back to posting your JP oshi's name alongside sex in caps instead of making up this dumb scenarios in your heads or better yet commit suicide so your families don't have to live knowing how fucking stupid they were for not using contraceptives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38494074
>The only one streaming at euro friendly hours is kiara
>and ironically the JP holos
>Ignore the euro market a second time
>Most of the current talents could easily get euro viewers if they were to start their streams just a couple of hours earlier
>But they won't
It's baffling how little they care for the euro fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>38504247
Ina also streamed on earlier hours, I believe around prime time for most of Western Europe, but she's currently MIA. Ironically enough Vesper was also one of the few who did, and he's also MIA. But yeah, I doubt we'll see any variation for EN3 if Cover managed to hire the same exact talent configuration two times in a row.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38442986
he can't, because the context is something like the temprature or the economy. lmao. fucking SEAs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38394991
who is that black one in the 3rd spot of the top row? Did someone slip their OC into the image?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38494074
I gotta say if they don't hire euro girls they're retarded. Euro market is almost untouched.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38508446
This is the same company that managed to hire 2 Aussies for the same gen. Do not underestimate the ability of Cover to be retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38394991
bro what if i tell you that they are debut ready for almost a year

[Anonymous No.]

The real EN3

[Anonymous No.]

>>38395670
Well, if you are interested in music-related career, Hololive is probably still first choice. You will definitely get 3D in 1-2 years and will also be able to do all sorts of concert.

Also if you are a streaming monster like Kaela, that’s one niche EN does not have yet. It may even guarantee you a spot

[Anonymous No.]

>>38404564
I guess it depends on what you define as “better”? Each HoloID have wildly different fanbase. Iofi is a mix of JP and ID, Risu is EN and ID, Moona is EN, ID, and few JP, Reine is mostly EN, Ollie is also mostly EN, while Anya is EN, JP, and ID mostly mixed together.

Also Indonesia is not a “small” market. Its the 4th largest country and highest number of weebs after China.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38405951
Kaela is just catching all the viewers that are missing from non-existent EN stream from all the other timezones. Zeta is basically Indonesian Ayame that streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38448969
Well, Kobo is also same branch as Reine, Moona, and Risu. Unless something truly bad happens, they will definitely be able to cover for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38511244
What has gone so right!?
https://streamable.com/ec1wr7

[Anonymous No.]

>>38448969
>Kobo is a yab waiting to happen
is she? she seems fun and semi wholesome and has breakout popularity, I doubt they'd let her go even if she did have a minor yab and she doesn't seem like the type to have a major yab

[Anonymous No.]

>>38395670
Tldr?

[Anonymous No.]

>>38511244
get the fuck out

[Anonymous No.]

>>38511244
At this point I sort of believe

[Anonymous No.]

>>38520027
it

[Anonymous No.]

>>38395754
>It's the pure unicorn anti male girls only faction who matter
>Fauna and his "RM" situation
Kek fucking imbecile

[Anonymous No.]

>>38511244
They sort of seem to be the first real alternative to Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>38523170
>Fauna and his "RM" situation
explain

[Anonymous No.]

>>38394991
i dont care