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38233615 No.38233615 [Reply] [Original]

Apologize.

https://youtu.be/VJH1l_n_dxw

>> No.38233744

are there really people living in the catalog who just watch clips and make threads about them all day. go play some video games, christ.

>> No.38233761

>>38233615
>he actually believes in her
lmao

>> No.38233929

>>38233615
>You believed her instead of my rrats
idiot

>> No.38234278
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>> No.38234323

>>38233615
>anxiety issues
>self-destructive behavior
>previous alcohol addiction
>access to large amount of money
>she comes back out of it
it was a multi-week binge. booze, who knows what else.

>> No.38234398

what health issues prevent you from tweeting?
did she break her thumbs?
does she not have twitter on her corpo iphone?

>> No.38234424

>>38233615
and her grandma died, and her dog ate her microphone and her alarm didn't go off

>> No.38234444

>umm my PC le exploded xD, also my mic exploded too, also I was totally sick and have health issues, ALSO i was visitng my family haha
This girl literally fucking uses every meme excuse card SIMULTANEOUSLY and cumsharts still believe her, it's actually unreal.

>> No.38234683

Apologize for what? Not doing your job? If this was a problem, use your damn phone and tell everybody you're gonna leave for 2 weeks with those exact reasons.

>> No.38234712

>>38233615
>Apologize
Maybe she should stop ghosting and start giving updates if she is so "sick" that she can't stream. Also the fact she felt the need to pile on a hundred other excuses just shows that she knows she fucked up and had to make up shit that would excuse her for 2 weeks of ghosting after that PC fiasco

>> No.38234785

Oh fuck her pc exploded and she got covid 23 (the upgraded version of covid 22, but before anyone else it's special delivery) and that's why she couldn't stream but could make an entire thanksgiving dinner. Wow. Crazy.

>> No.38234844

>>38234444
I like to think she's just having a laugh that all these people will literally eat whatever she shits out. It's actually kind of admirable.

>> No.38234909

>>38234712
Technically she doesn't have to make excuses, being a contractor. But it is pretty lol she couldn't just say "sick, can't stream for a month, byeeee" on twitter and be done with it. Like there's ghosting and then there's total and complete blackout/avoidance.

>> No.38234961

>>38233929
Do you think Gura could say the real reason why she was radio silent? Ina announces an indefinite hiatus, there is a single retweet on Ina's twitter for Marine's 3D concert, and one month after that Gura mentions that management can retweet on their hololive twitter accounts. Myth has been acting odd and most of them didn't attend the Halloween collab or the Among Us holoEN collab.

>> No.38235077

>>38233615
nah

>> No.38235144

>>38234961
Ame just announced an indefinite hiatus, no more la creatividad either.

>> No.38235166

>>38234961
cuz its over, they're women, they can't be friends forever, they'll eventually turn on each other.

>> No.38235263

>>38233615
I'm sorry but I don't care

>> No.38235451

>>38233615
her fingers horted so much she couldn't pick her iphone up to wirte her fans she was taking a break but she was able to bake pies and eat turkey legs with them.

>> No.38235502

>>38234961
>Chicken literally had to take over that collab to save management's asses
>She wont even benefit from the merch sales since all she has is some lame keychain
EN is collapsing.

>> No.38235589

>>38234424
And when she was taking her PC in to get fixed she tripped and her PC fell into the sewer, while trying to reach her PC parts her phone also fell in. It’s a never ending stoooooooryyyyyyy

>> No.38235733

>Gura, Ina, and Ame all being inactive recently
>Mori and Kiara are the only active ones

Cuckbeats and KFP, maybe we were too harsh on you.

>> No.38235845

>>38234323
jay's cock.

>> No.38236244

>>38233615
suuuuuure, she and her managers were so sick that wasnt even able to pick up a smartphone just to say "sorry, i am sick guys" or "happy thanksgiving" or "i cant stream but i am gonna post some audios instead", even the lazy ass of la+ posted some audios and she was actually sick, gura is just pathetic, the same bitch as before, nothing has changed.

>> No.38236430

>>38236244
Remember when kanata kept updating her fans every day when she had covid?

>> No.38236495

She was so sick, she had to go to Walmart and make medicinal turkey by herself.

>> No.38236543

>>38235733
Nah, deadbeats deserve all the bullying they get.

>> No.38236794

>>38233615
I was thinking about this earlier and I actually wonder if these chuubas would have been happier without the stress of being in this sort of position. I mean there's obviously some major pluses and crazy high points, but having so many people "relying" on you all the time probably isn't something you'll ever completely get used to.

>> No.38236925

It's pretty clear she doesn't like streaming anymore. It's a job to her, pretty much a chore. You ever have a thing you don't want to do, then once you're doing it, it's something like "this wasn't as bad as I thought it would be," then when you're done, you don't want to do it again? That's Gura when it comes to streaming. She's sort of it into it when it's happening, that's why she sounds excited, because she can get swept up into things, but then when it's over, she's done with it and doesn't want to do it again. She's been over streaming. She tried to get back into it in October, tried to give an effort, but it's always temporary, because her heart is not, and has not, been into it for quite a while now.

>> No.38236940

>>38235733
I have been entirely indifferent to Mori, but her being raided by Pippa AND Mori acknowleding her was a bridge to far for me.
Not gonna be all schizo anti but I cant forgive shit like that.

>> No.38237303

>>38234444
Quad quads shall remain uncontested

>> No.38237455

>>38236794
100% easier than your boss "relying on you" to show up to work every day and even a 30-minute delay being enough to get you fired.

>> No.38237518

>>38236925
I don't think you can be that conclusive about it. But I wouldn't say she's exactly like Kaela who can just sit there and play a game she likes in front of a camera for hours on end. Maybe Gura feels some pressure to deliver some particular quality and live up to some standard in her head or something.

>> No.38237618

>>38236925
she should quit then

>> No.38237636

>>38237455
You can't define "easy" with just how much work is done. There are different pressures involved with different work.

>> No.38237807

>>38237618
Cover doesn't want her to quit, why would they let go of their biggest merch seller?
Unless... she commits a big yab.

>> No.38237880

>>38237618
No matter how much you hate your job, if it means generational wealth at the end of it, 99% of people ain't quitting anytime soon lol

>> No.38237950

>>38237618
she likes the money though, she just doesn't like doing work.
maybe she'll quit when chumbuds stop paying for her vacations, but that's not gonna happen.

>> No.38238007

>>38237518
I think you might be sort of right, but at the heart of it, it's same argument I'm making. I'm saying she's just not into streaming anymore, for whatever reason.

You're saying she can't stream without some kind of "way of streaming" and she's not able to deliver that anymore in her head. Let's say you're right, and she wants to present some kind of "character" or "presentation" to her streams, and her inability to do that freely is preventing her streaming. Why can't she do that at will anymore? She's never been the "planning" or meticulous type, so whatever presentation she's trying to give has always been just from her heart. Therefore, the reason she can't do it, is because her heart isn't in it. My original reason I gave: She doesn't want to stream anymore. You've only expanded that to include "because she can't provide the presentation from her heart that she could before."

>> No.38238085

>>38234444
As dogshit as this board is I'm glad sound criticism can actually be posted and discussed to some degree. I could bet my ass if I head over to reddit right now I'll find an artificially positive post praising Gura for confirming she's alive. Before fucking off for another week of course.

>> No.38238194

>>38237518
>Maybe Gura feels some pressure to deliver some particular quality and live up to some standard in her head or something.
kek her most famous stream was just 20 minutes of dead air.

>> No.38238210

>>38238007
No, it simply means you require a little more inspiration/motivation to do things. I don't think that sort of thing just disappears, and she's still delivered good content.

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>>38238210
>and she's still delivered good content.

>> No.38238438

>>38233615
Fcking clipperfag stop shilling your halfass bait clips.

>> No.38238447

>>38238194
k but 2 of the most famous eva scenes involve characters standing awkwardly together in silence

>> No.38238484

>>38238210
It's not about the quality of content, I mentioned before that she can sound excited while streaming, because that's the type of person she is, she gets swept into things while it's happening, she's at her best in spontaneous moments, like just winging it when she's streaming. But it's that initial hurdle of beginning the action of streaming that's become larger over time, and that's because she's increasingly not wanted to do it. She's just forcing over herself at this point to do it, and it works well enough, because her natural self lends itself well to spontaneous actions, meaning when the camera is on, she can fulfill the job. But these types of people you can't judge by their output's content, because the question is never whether "they have the ability", it's always "whether they want do it", and it's very plainly obvious she's lost that desire. More and more over time in fact.

>> No.38238599

>>38238085
>>38234444
/mans/ troons getting desperate to own a cute innocent girl who loves her fans

>> No.38238673

>>38233615
WOAH NO FUCKING SHIT

this board needs mental help

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>>38238599
>innocent girl who loves her fans

>> No.38238682

>>38238599
>loves her fans
She probably isn't innocent either

>> No.38238763

>>38238677
>>38238682
>headcanon
>headcanon
you guys are pathetic, gura always wins!

>> No.38238807

>>38238484
I think you're assuming too much and over-generalizing. I don't think someone's feelings toward this is that simple.

>> No.38238808

>>38237950
She supposedly lost around 70% of her members since the height of her membership at the start of her career. Latest count was around 3,500 members as opposed to about 14 or 15,000 members at the beginning. So she is still living good, but that income is decreasing.

>> No.38238941

>>38233615
And you believe her? We'll be back to where we were in 2 weeks.

Believing a chuuba about health issues that prevent them from streaming and tweeting is absolutely retarded after Sana's back hort

>> No.38238978

>>38238808
There's no way Gura only has 3,500 members, right?
For reference Pomu has like 5,000 and Mori/Kiara/Fauna probably have twice as much.

>> No.38239052

>>38238807
I think people can have many reasons for decreasing the amount of time they do something. But more often than not, you'll find by far the most common reason is that they just don't want to do it anymore. And as time goes by, that becomes increasingly likely, as the common factors slowly just becomes just them, and their desire.

>> No.38239158

>>38238978
She's only done 1-2 members-only streams per month since September, no surprise that many would drop their subscription.

>> No.38239233

>>38239052
Sure but you can still be motivated by things, you just don't become incapable of getting inspiration.

>> No.38239485

>>38233615
She's pregnant

>> No.38239555

>>38239233
I'm sure she's always going to be able to find something that might spark a motivation, she is spontaneous after all, but that's fleeting, and harder over time to find. If she's not able to find motivation from the streaming itself, if we're relying on external sources of motivation for a person like Gura, she's already got an expiration date, and we're in the end times.

>> No.38239630

Gura is the vtuber Noah Antwiler, for those old enough to still remember that train wreck. Just keep giving her money, I'm sure she'll start caring eventually!

>> No.38239699

Did her Cover phone with twitter explode too? Not even asking for a Space. A fucking tweet before disappearing would be enough.

>> No.38239707

>>38239555
way too sure of yourself

>> No.38239865

>still watching gura
must be stockholm syndrome. she's not special at what she does, she was the first. but now theres plenty that have far more potential.

>> No.38239868

>>38237950
Anon. I saw Kana crawl back to youtube and all the russians still had their memberships active. Most people won't unmember unless payment fails.

>> No.38239893

>>38239707
I don't think you'll ever be convinced that the most likely scenario is actually happening. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm also not hopelessly optimistic. The "truth" is whatever is most likely at the moment, and at the moment, she doesn't seem to like streaming. It's really not psychology or analysis, it's like watching a kid not practice something, they just don't want to. You can come up with a bunch of plausible reasons to deny it, but sometimes it really is that simple.

>> No.38239936

>>38233615
Retard.
What's stopping her from tweeting? Suisei for example still tweeted even when she had throat surgery.

>> No.38240545

>>38236940
>Pink Woman unity
Very nice.

>> No.38240741

>>38238599
This is to go further beyond rent free.

>> No.38240782

>>38238763
reps

>> No.38240870

>>38238978
you can easily check the likes on posts or member stream views and know it's more than 3.5k

>> No.38240894

>>38239893
She needs to do something she actually 3njoya doing. Most artists have other outlets.

>> No.38241011
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>>38239893
I mean there's no reason to.
The sheer size of the holo girls means that any given moment, stream or no stream, cover is still passively making off them.
The girls themselves are also extremely well off to boot.
I dont like it but neither can I force them to realize how incredibly lucky they are to have the job they do.

>> No.38241051

>>38239893
IMO the solution is to incorporate stuff you love into streaming, even if it'll be kinda hard with the rules management sets out...

>> No.38241054

>>38233615
As an indiefag, I really don't why you guys still watch holoen. they suck as streamers and are extremely uncreative and lazy, what's the point other than to bandwagon?

>> No.38241209

>>38239936
You don’t understand anon her medical condition makes her unable to use her thumbs. Why do you think her pie turned out shitty?

>> No.38241332

>>38233615
She got MattPATT'ed. She's a whore.

>> No.38245106

>>38239936
Small streamer preasu undastand

>> No.38245459

>>38239893
I’m not 100% that you’re right, but I am damn well over 90% sure. If she wanted to stream, she’d do what she could to get through whatever obstacles are in the way. I highly doubt she’s straight-up lying with all of her excuses, but she sure as hell doesn’t try that hard to overcome these things that come up that keep her from streaming—otherwise she wouldn’t be gone for three weeks because of vague “tech issues.”
That shit only happens when something comes up and you drag your feet getting it fixed because you’re unmotivated enough for your ADHD or whatever to get in the way. If your PC broke and you really wanted to stream, you’d figure out a way to get that shit fixed quickly, so twitter spaces on your phone once you had the chance.
Of course Gura doesn’t care about streaming anymore. I’m not going to speculate on why, but she obviously doesn’t view things that keep her from streaming as urgent problems that need to be fixed.

>> No.38245653

>>38239893
>>38239052
>>38238484
>>38245459
Considering that she brought up her health issues and went to spend time with family because of it(and yes schizos I believe its real because she accidentally brought it up in the first place and regretted it instantly), who actually knows what caused her to disappear? PC broke is just a factor, but she had already been in the process of fixing it.

As for Gura being unmotivated, I don't really think its true, she's not even the lowest holo streaming time-wise and i doubt you'd say someone like Mio isn't motivated either, she's just going down the path of a holo who focuses more on the other things she can do within cover, she's been in all these lives and she herself said it was always her dream to be on stage.

>> No.38246342

>>38245653
>Focuses on other things
>Being in lives
While it is true she is in some lives. Her abysmal streaming hours cannot be explained with only those reasons. Girls who stream way more still appear in way more lives than she does and also release more projects
>inb4 perfectionist
Yeah. Those dozens of unseen, unreleased and unfinished projects sure scream perfection and quality to me kek.

>> No.38246711

>>38246342
This whataboutism doesn’t really mean anything here,
A true unmotivated holo would be like depressed era Shion or Sana, who wasn’t working on quite literally anything nor were they streaming.
I’m not here to discuss a matter of “oh this holo produces more than this other one” but rather if said holo is doing SOME sort of work, and it’s factually true in this case.

>> No.38246854

>>38236940
>>38240545
THE GREAT YAB WILL COMMENCE
FINANA, MORI, PIPPA AND VALKYRAE STREAM WITH ELIRA MAKING PISS JOKES

>> No.38249366

>>38233615
>that pants on retarded pie story where she kept backtracking and changing up key events
She's obviously a pathological liar.

>> No.38249414

>>38246711
Holo has professional and unprofessional streamers. Gura falls into unprofessional. I wonder how long it actually takes to make an appearance in someone else's live. It might make me understand a bit more about her real workload. Anyway, I think the core thing anyone follows a holomem is their streams. Everything else is fine, but I won't miss it if they do none of it.

>> No.38249860

What a coincidence that Ina, Ame and Gura all hort at the same time, there's definitely nothing going on behind the scenes, most especially not an all out war lol what with Vesper getting jannied and Calli talking about "being trapped"

>> No.38250043

>>38249860
Calli is signed to Universal right? Isn't that how any aspiring musician gets trapped?

>> No.38250082

>>38233615
Who is this girl?
Someone famous?

>> No.38250251

>>38250082
It's just some clipper with bait thumbnails that when you actually watch the clip turns out to be bullshit. Fuck you clippers.

>> No.38250271

>>38233615
tummy hort pc hort tummy hort pc hort
these people are pathetic
i am gonna watch that idol girl

>> No.38250852

>>38250251
It isn't bullshit though.

>> No.38250962

>>38233615
>Can't do job am sad :(
No

>> No.38251191

There's guys on twitch with like 5 or 9 viewers that stream consistently and solve problems WHILE STREAMING, they troubleshoot problems on stream and fix them. HololiveEN AND JP too are the only ones in the streaming world that take weeks upon weeks off for no actual good reason and the only reason they consistently do that is because they already know they will get fucktons of money anyway.

In fact, some get more money by not streaming than for streaming. That's fucking sad.

>> No.38251314

>>38234444
Based and checked. Chumpedos could teach a masterclass on coping.

>> No.38251388

>>38250852
Oh but it is.

>> No.38251438

>>38233615
So much depressing news. I'm gonna give her more superchats.

>> No.38251710

>>38233615
When Gura was gone, tried checking others out. Forced the realization the others just are not as interesting. That is the real problem.
If there were good alternatives, there wouldn't be any talk about Gura...other than out of jealousy. Because people would just move on, instead of the constant topics about her during absence. Showing that no one else matters. How bleak the times have become.

>> No.38251743

>>38251710
Idol girls. Unironically. Idol EN might as well be Holo EN3

>> No.38251909

>>38250962
lol the seethe

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>>38233615
>my dog ate my stream
She has more than enough money to replace her entire pc in a day if she has to and you still work while you're sick, everyone's constantly sick and still do just fine, so its not an excuse to barely ever stream for over a year
Still way better than any other Myth member though lol

>> No.38251999

>>38251710
keep living in bubble

>> No.38252040

>>38233615
You believe her? Lmao?
As a KFP, teamate and deadbeat I have to say you are fucking dumb

>> No.38252107

Pretty clear most of Myth is burnt out. Management did a shit job of keeping them placated and content, even the perennial silver medals in Nijisanjis Lazulight haven't flamed out as quickly. I sure as shit don't see them as better streamers or more suited to streaming so I have to conclude the Myth talents aren't being managed as well. Mori continues because she's a work horse that can only feel when she's neck deep into several projects, and Kiara is obsessed with being an idol so she's probably just happy to be a part of this. The other three are clearly struggling.

>> No.38252116

>Call in sick
>Work asks if I can still do a half-day
>Gura has a slight headache from her job of playing video games a couple hours a day
>Sure, take 2 weeks off!

>> No.38252123

>>38251999
>keep living in bubble
Naw, it may be best to leave VTubers. All good things come to end. It was a great run.

I suggest you all don't let it drag you in the downward spiral.

>> No.38252236

>>38251710
>others just are not as interesting. That is the real problem.
You too huh? This shit is pretty rough.

>> No.38252703

>>38233615
I can save her

>> No.38252924

>>38252123
I am convinced that the reason so many anons rage and seethe and the reason Gura won’t graduate is the same—they’d rather just cling to a thing they liked instead of just…doing something else.
At least Gura makes money off of this, so she has an excuse.

>> No.38253103

Don't delude yourselves. She's a millionaire who can take as many breaks as she wants. You know what those kinds of people do? They take breaks, go to the Bahamas or Seychelles or some shit, drink pina coladas, and fuck their boytoys nonstop 24/7. She's probably cum and has been cum in more times than you've eaten bread throughout the course of your whole life. And every time you cope, every time you simp and send a supa, youre only paying for her boytoy(s) to nakadashi her.
This goes double for those who take long breaks like Gura/Ayame, who are fiends for cock of legendary proportions.

>> No.38253325

Reminder that the 'people' shitting on Gura are chinks and nijiniggers.
We must stand behind Gura and defend her, otherwise they will divide us and eventually destroy Hololive in its entirety.

>> No.38254392

>>38233615
For that? No.

>> No.38254458

>>38234444
checked

>> No.38256478

>>38233615
Lazy ass piece of shit.

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>>38233929
Why believe your rrats when my schizo internal monologue can do anything they can.

>> No.38257943

>>38233615
its pregnancy and hormones

>> No.38258110

When I come to /vt/ I start getting angry that vtubers I haven't even watched aren't streaming enough and it's been weeks since their last stream

>> No.38258501

>>38233615
cold turkey

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