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38193349 No.38193349 [Reply] [Original]

Suisei got more than 50k viewers yesterday doing a short singing stream that was also an #ad for spotify than gura coming back, singing christmas songs, she didn't even break the 30k barrier, if that doesn't tell you something i don't know what is

>> No.38193550

>>38193349
it means JP audience is bigger and you are retarded and need mental seizure and help

>> No.38193591

>>38193550
what is mental seizure?

>> No.38193637
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>>38193349

>> No.38193739

>>38193349
she never was the biggest. her best is just Pekora's normal day.

>> No.38193784

Lack of EN hypes really
Fanbase needs hypes in succession to keep them from leaving
JP has no problem with this since events and 3D lives every week
In EN there's only Mori frequently releasing stuffs, but let's be honest we are tired of her already

>> No.38193827

>>38193550
But muh 4 gorillion kids!

>> No.38194095

>Suisei
>who collabs with males
oh no no no no unicornchads

>> No.38194096

Keep your number faggotry to your designated containment zone retard

>> No.38194118

Oh also nice ESL you got there

>> No.38194278

>>38193550
>JP audience is bigger
Guffaw. The cope is strong in this one. It's like saying Gura is not #1 because of dead subs by Nijiniggers.

>> No.38194286

>>38193349
Her doing so well you think it's fine to compare her with an actual singing giant like Suityan says more than you're most likely willing to admit.

>> No.38194590

>>38194278
He's right tho, Korekore regularly streams to 100k+ CCV, even reaching 400k once

>> No.38194808

>>38193349
where did it go wrong?

>> No.38194812

>>38193349
Cool. But how come Suisei lost to Gura's Odo on her own turf kek

>> No.38194896

>>38194590
who?

>> No.38195066

>>38193349
Comparing their own output alone, Suisei:
>Has 2 albums under her name
>Has another album under a record label
>Doesn't ghost her fanbase even while on a medical break

>> No.38195124

>>38193349
But she was bragging to her man MatPat about how she sang in front of 120k people

>> No.38195215

>>38194278
you have to be the most confident retard ive ever seen. you clearly dont know what youre talking about

>> No.38195233

The non-schizo answer is that EN fans are far more casual than JP fans, where idol culture is actually a thing outside of a handful of retards on /vt/, and you all know that's the explanation too. But y'all need your rrats because apparently even enjoying CGDCT has to be a faggoty dick measuring contest for you retards.

>> No.38195400

>>38193784
I wish Kiara was in charge of EN marketing. When one of the go to catchphrases of your fanbase is "stream song" that even other members catch onto that's a sign she knows what she's doing. Gura is so catastrophically inept at marketing that you have to practically stalk her to get the message about it a few hours before release. Meanwhile Calli is constantly producing stuff, but doesn't have any of the infectious energy or enthusiasm to keep the hype train rolling, it can really feel like business as usual at times and turns her music into a commodity and it's easy to gloss over it.

>> No.38195462

>>38193784
No what they need is consistent content of a decent effort. Gura doesn't provide this and bleeds a percentage of her viewerbase every time she repeats this cycle.
They do need some hype events here and there to pull in new eyes and occassionally go viral as well, but the notion they need constant events to retain and slowly gain new viewers is wrong and proven as such by fauna and irys recent numbers.

>> No.38195474

>>38195066
>ghost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKKar5SS29E

Gura will never have anything as good or kino if she doesn't keep trying like Suisei does, who else gives up on making a song because someone tried to rip you off?

>> No.38195514

What is the point of having a /#/ thread if these retards just spill out and shit up the board with their consolewar retardation anyway

>> No.38195520

>>38195066
But enough about Mori

>> No.38195946

>>38193784
HoloEN is just not doing much other than cons and promos. That stuff is supposed to gain you fans, but instead they are bleeding badly because it cut heavily into their content output.

>> No.38196281

>>38195400
>>38195462
>>38195946
People counting on Gura too much, yet management don't support her appropriately. If you want Gura to act as a gateway then boost her channel with dozens of songs like what Suisei has, if you want Gura to be just regular member than at least release EN3 already to lessen the burden. Girl Gen not Tempus, management, if you read this, releasing Tempus was an absolutely idiotic idea, should've waited after EN4 at least.

>> No.38196444

So did Gura actually get banned for two weeks?

>> No.38196856

>>38196444
She appeared in AFA so no

>> No.38196863

Western vtuber fans are ephemeral.

>> No.38196935

>>38193349
Numberfags are mentally ill

>> No.38197077

>>38196281
Borderline schizo rant, but I do agree. Half of council has a lot going on IRL and myth take turns becoming terminally ill so any absence is strongly felt. Tempus was never going to fill that void but I understand why they needed room to develop considering how uproar got completely downplayed by ID3.
What astounds me is that they clearly gave Tempus a few open months to grow and a lot of freedom in that space, but suspend one of the members responsible for hosting one of the BIGGEST growth enabling events (D&D) right as it began. Completely defeats the point, I hope they haven't put off EN3 only to score an own goal, especially since some of the auditions that have leaked showed some decent talent and what few remaining talented Indies were left are being snapped up by things like the oy vey corp

>> No.38197181

>>38196281
Oh woe is poor gura, she's not insanely lazy despite having one of the easiest and most well paid jobs in the world she's just not supported!
Not having support hasn't stopped amelia getting a 3d studio for the girls, it hasn't stopped Kiara from producing original songs, it hasn't stopped mori rising to the point of getting a record deal.

Gura doesn't even have to do anything besides play a game on stream for a few hours a week and she can't even be fucked to do that much. she can't even be bothered to do basic ass tweets to the point management have to step in.
If or when we get en3 I hope they have absolutely nothing to do with gura. Even better I hope one of them poaches her timeslot.

>> No.38197256

>>38196281
>If you want Gura to act as a gateway then boost her channel with dozens of songs like what Suisei has,
What makes you think that is a management issue rather than a Gura issue? Kiara and Mori release plenty of songs and stream more than Gura.

>> No.38197417

>>38193550
don't ever point that out again

>> No.38197539

>>38196281
I'm sure cover forbade her from doing original songs and refuse to support her in any way
She totally isn't just a lazy retard who doesn't care about hololive

>> No.38197643

>>38195124
Did Gura really go from 120k viewers on a karaoke to 28k? My God what the fuck happened that's like a 4 view going back to being a 2 view overnight

>> No.38197658

>>38196444
no she just took a well deserved vacation from her shitty job

>> No.38197764

I never thought she was the number one in anything desu but all these threads are changing my mind. She definitely has to be the #1 chuuba causing the most seeth at the moment

>> No.38197956

>>38193349
These fags comparing people from the same company again, yes your EN chuubas are reclining op, who the fuck cares?

>> No.38198016

>>38195400
>Literally begging for views
>Good marketing
It's a fucking garbage strategy and the objective results of kiaras self marketing are that she is the least watched and least subscribed member of one of the most popular hololive generations.

>> No.38198154

I mean gura used to pull 100k people every karaoke stream, the numbers she pulls now are the consequences of her own actions, maybe when she streams again in a month things'll go better (:

>> No.38198204

>>38198154
>every
Newfag.

>> No.38198391

>>38198016
Just because you don't like it or her doesn't mean it isn't effective. I bet you can't think of the last collaboration Mori put together, but can think of at least 3 from her in the last few months.
To put it into perspective, she's got less than half of the raw appeal of Gura, but manages to get at least 2/3rds of the same amount of attention. The begging works. Now imagine if Gura stopped the whole "uuu uwu self flagellation I don't think my work is good enough to promote" and actually flaunted some ego, she might actually keep up with Suisei in terms of relevance and her work would be felt instead of being an excuse for people to seethe at her taking breaks.

>> No.38199151

>>38197181
>>38197256
Gura is not the Mori hardworking ambitious type, we all know this, in the debut months Gura merely put herself as Watson's sidekick, tho since Gura was more popular the roles got reversed. By herself she won't be as productive, both Q and King were thanks to Mori, so if you want her to produce more then necessary supports are required... Or just fucking release new waves and let Gura go on her own pace

>> No.38200798

>>38193349
ogey

>> No.38201472

>>38197643
Barely communicating with fans, lying about “big projects” and constant breaks will start to eat away at your CCV

>> No.38201518

>>38193550
fpbp

>> No.38201685

Still at 1/3rd the actual number. This puts her about on par with the top girls in Hololive. Its probably because thats the ceiling for average Hololive outside of giant events

but hey dont let me get in the way of trannies paying you gift cards

>> No.38201859

oh no guys the superstart only got 29.9k viewers... she's DONE VTUBING IS OVER BROS IT'S ALL OVER

>> No.38201877
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>>38193349
It means EN viewers don't watch streams. We've already known this.

>> No.38203867

But Suisei didn't even have half the likes that Gura did. Hmmmmm

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Dont use Suisei for your numberfagging. May you die a slow death

>> No.38204877

>>38196281
>yet management don't support her appropriately.
Suisei was ghosted for like a year and then after that has her stuff done because she herself pushed for it instead of waiting for management to decide for her. Theres a reason she is miles ahead in terms of music compared to most Holos

>> No.38204961

>>38193349
Why would I want to watch just any karaoke?
I want to watch the karaoke of the girls that I see on a regular basis.
I've had more of Aki in like 2 weeks than I've had of Gura in 2 years.

>> No.38204976

>>38195233
>Suisei
>idol culture
If youre speaking in terms of music then I agree with you, but if you mean unicorn pandering the best she did is just appreciating her fans like a decent person

>> No.38205140

>>38204976
>unicorn pandering
Thats a streamer thing.
We do not know what they're doing IRL, it's not a concern. Even outside of relationships, half of the people they communicate with daily are surely men. That doesn't change if you're a singer.
Uni is latin for one.
One sex.
Only one sex where? On stream.

>> No.38205259

>>38204877
They need to find the audio developer equivalent of Kanauru that they can lean on when they want to do their own tracks

>> No.38205274

shark bad

>> No.38205343

>>38194808
Hiring Canucks and Aussies as EN managers.

>> No.38205350

>>38193349
JP audience is bigger, why are you surprised? Now go back to /#/

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