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3785190 No.3785190 [Reply] [Original]

Where is Gura appearing on TV, ads, etc like Kizuna Ai?

>> No.3785220

She's been a thing for less than a year

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>> No.3785290

>>3785190
People irl dont want to admit they jerk off to gura thight cunny

>> No.3785309

She refused to wear the hoodie.

>> No.3785314

Give it a year or two

>> No.3785337

TV and game deals are planned well in advance, unless it's something on a smaller scope like what GrooveCoaster did like a couple weeks ago.

>> No.3785406

>>3785190
Ok. I'll bite
She doesnt have a networking like Kizuna Ai. Look at Roberu, he may not have the numbers of Gura but the man knows and collabed with the 90% of the vtubing world. Also Gura didnt even asked for accesories in her outfit do you think she would start asking her manager for interviews and meeting important people? she would need to learn japanese also.

>> No.3785450

>>3785190
>TV
Nobody watches TV anymore.

>> No.3785556
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>>3785190
1. Japan treats vtubing and anime girls more seriously than the West. Japan fans will always be more loyal and support their oshi more, Gura's sub count is just a meme.

2. Gura doesn't live in Japan where vtubers are actual celebrities, she's also too lazy or not allowed to have stream collabs with her JP senpai

3. There are literal male vtubers with better stream viewership and more subs than her, her popularity is overly exaggerated just because Hololive is the hottest agency around right now. Pekora and other Holos regularly beat her stream views and regularly earn more superchats.

4. Kizuna AI is a special case because she literally invented modern day vtubing, that was the first worldwide boom of the medium, there's been talking avatars in the past but Kizuna is the one that really made bank with the concept. No one is ever going to be that hot at a phase where modern vtubing was a relatively new thing worldwide instead of just a niche in one country.

Gura is popular more as a meme than an actual vtuber, most of her fans don't even watch other tubers, most of her fans outright stopped watching her. She has more than 2 million subs but her livestream watchers don't reflect that at all.

>> No.3785766

>>3785190
Because she isn't as popular as vt thinks that she is.

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>>3785556
(You)

>> No.3785849

>>3785766
This tbdesu. It's mostly little children that no longer pay attention to her among other dead subs. She gets 15 - 25k for most streams. That's really bad for over 2M subs, considering she's rather new, too. That's a lot of people that stopped paying attention to her quickly.

>> No.3785884

>>3785556
Have a (You) and thank you basedposter

>> No.3785967

>>3785766
>2nd most subscribed Vtuber and the creator of the fucking "Okay Boomer" song
>Not well known
Cope.

>> No.3785991

>>3785556
Based and true at the same time.

>> No.3786034

>>3785190
because most of her viewers are spics and br monkeys. same shit goes for nearly all amerimutt videos

>> No.3786075

>>3785190
How fucking boomer are you, anon? No one under 60 has watched TV in the last twenty years.

>> No.3786184

>>3785450
>>3786075
Fine, but where is Gura appearing on commercials of streaming services then?

>> No.3786202

>>3785190
I have seen zero mention of kizuna ai anywhere in real life and normalfags don't even know what a "vtuber" is. In the grand scheme of things kizuna only has like 3 million subscribers, but at this point there are thousands of literal whos on YouTube that have even more subs than her. Vtubers aren't anywhere near being mainstream.

>> No.3786280

>>3786202
Kizuna Ai is famous in Japan while Gawr Gura is 'famous' in the West.

>> No.3786339

>>3785556
They hated him because he told the truth.

>> No.3786416

>>3786184
Holy fuck, you really are out of date. You don't fucking need commercials when there is an army of people plastering your face on social media.

>> No.3786417

>>3786184
Gura doesn't DO anything but the bare minimum. If she actually went at her job with any amount of gusto, she'd be in every non-Gacha game under the sun.
The chuubas actually have to push for these things themselves you know

>> No.3786440

>>3786184
the serious answer is that holo en absolutely relies on the japanese geek industry. its not an american entertainment. its an japanese entertainment in english. so unless japanese companies offer them a collab nothing happens.

>> No.3786478

>>3786417
>non-Gacha
non-chink gacha*

>> No.3786502

>>3786184
EN vtubers won't succeed in Japan and the west as you know don't want anything to do with anime crap. I still love her though.

>> No.3786583

>>3785190
what's with all these Gura threads recently, is it time for the discord server to go from Kiara to Gura?

>> No.3786703

>>3785190
Well, considering the quality of her models/music, it seems her management is just there to leech paychecks. Happens all the time.

>> No.3786758

>>3786583
This. And probably because she just came back from seeing her parents.

>> No.3786846

I think she hates how popular she is.

>> No.3787049

>>3786846
No shit

>> No.3787388

>>3785556
I'd agree mostly and add also they're not going to try and get ads in the mainstream American market and this is still extremely niche and weird in America. I could never imagine them serious enough to ever try to get a Superbowl ad.

>> No.3787424

>>3785190
>Where is Gura appearing on TV, ads, etc like Kizuna Ai?
You just explained why Kizuna Ai is washed up

>> No.3787511

>>3785556
Based and truthpilled.

>> No.3787610

>>3785190
North America

>> No.3787657

>>3785556
words of wisdom

>> No.3787718
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>>3785556
>There are literal male vtubers with better stream viewership and more subs than Gura, her popularity is overly exaggerated just because Hololive is the hottest agency around right now. Pekora and other Holos regularly beat her stream views and regularly earn more superchats.

>> No.3787748

>>3785406
gura will never collab with anyone outside of holoEN/EN gen 2. She's too fucking selfish/lazy even though chumcucks call it 'shy'

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>>3786583
They'll never stop seething at her so any time is good to spout out random general shit that makes no sense and seethe. Just look at that Cometkek post. Basically in his opinion the entirety of Hololive but Pekora and Rushia should graduate.
Also:
>>3787718

>> No.3787941

>>3787718
Anybody below freaking Miko's secondary twitch channel should graduate.

>> No.3788383

>>3786583
>what's with all these Gura threads recently,
Success breeds jealousy.

>> No.3788409

>>3785556
>most of her fans don't even watch other tubers, most of her fans outright stopped watching her. She has more than 2 million subs but her livestream watchers don't reflect that at all.

Let's be more honest here. Dead subs are a problem for all hololivers, not just Gura. You would not know Fubuki has that many subscribers from her view counts (in fact the problem is even worse there). But if you look at VOD view counts, it's clear that Gura videos still hit 1 million views regularly. The numbers don't lie, and it's pretty clear what happened: people have lives and watching things live doesn't matter much, but they still follow Gura.

>>3785190
>ads
Ads are about paying money for exposure. Small vtubers like NijiEN would benefit, but for Gura it means little. Especially when the demographics that would watch vtubers, almost certainly have been exposed to Gura, and the size of her channel means the algorithm will keep snowballing and recommending her to people even without ad placements.

>> No.3788503

>why aren't they showing cunny on tv

>> No.3788666

>>3788503
why indeed

>> No.3788693

>>3785190
It's only been half year and most of Hololive's influence is basically still in Japan (Hololive does commercials and I think they were on TV a few times over there). Gura likely won't be in ads or TV specials unless she ends up going to Japan itself. Mori out of all the EN's is the most likely one to show up for those sorts of things in all honesty especially with Cover pushing her lately (Ibasho for Princess Connect, singing the vocals for Alternative, did that one interview show with the Peanut and Azki).

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3788798

>be Gura
>suddenly become face of your new Gen when no one expected you would be
>hit 1mil subs even faster than your JP senpais
>intentionally do gaming streams and barebones content so you don't mog your senpais and genmates
>still mog your senpais and genmates regardless
>get anxiety because people expect great things from you
>yfw people call you a lazy shark who don't deserve your subs and views when you never wanted them in the first place

Gura just wants to play games with her friends man. Cut her some slack.

>> No.3788836

Ok so my best guesses

>Not in Japan and able to work with their companies
>Hololive is 2nd tier and rarely gets more than curry commercials compared to things Niji or Kizuna Ai
>Was not expected to be as big a hit as Kiara/Cali and Cover isnt prepared to capitalize

She did get a shark drink in a Gatcha game though so I guess theres that. Maybe things will pick up after she hits 3 million though who knows

>> No.3788952

>>3785556
>There are literal male vtubers with better stream viewership and more subs than her
take a look at this clown

>> No.3788955

>>3785556
Not gonna read all of your shit, but I definitely agree Kizuna is special, I was aware of her since she debuted because of the novelty of it all(practically a marriage of /a/ and /g/ perspectives), plenty of non-geeks and non-weebs at my highschool at least mentioned her.

>> No.3788965

>>3788836
Not being in Japan herself is probably the biggest issue. She's the only Vtuber in current history to be this big and not be a part of the main branch in Japan.

>> No.3788991

>>3788798
>suddenly become face of your new Gen when no one expected you would be
Literally anyone with eyes and a brain could tell that it would happen after they saw her debut. Whoever interviewed her at Cover must also have immediately known this.

>> No.3789052

>>3788991
People expected her to be the face of the Gen but absolutely no one expected her to be 2nd most subbed Vtuber in current history and being the literal face of English Vtubing as a whole..

>> No.3789172

>>3788991
They were expecting nijiEN numbers at the very best not 200k viewer 0.0001% of streamers kind of numbers

>> No.3789178

>>3788991
>whoever interviewed her at Cover must have also immediately known this

> designed by literal who compared to your Genmates who got designs from big industry names like Huke or Kuroboshi
>has worst rigging of all of Hololive
*cOveR MusT hAVe InsTanTly kNoWn she WouLd Be a HiT*

>> No.3789272

>>3788798
What kind of content would she put out if she ruthlessly wanted to grow her numbers?

>> No.3789321

>>3788798
>>3789172
>>3789178
She had 1m subs already on her previous channel. That's why she hit 1m so fast. It was very obvious who she was.

>> No.3789399

>>3787850
So if I'm reading this right, Coco has a higher shared membercount with Gura? That's interesting stuff, although I guess every EN fan is pretty much membered to Gura.

Also damn, those low hour count streamers are making me sad, imagine being a fan of them.

>> No.3789434

Anon you don't want this thing

>> No.3789488

>>3789321
She had 100k subs on her previous previous channel. That's why her previous channel hit 1m so fast.

>> No.3789500

>>3789272
Basically whatever Kiara is doing right now - aggressively collabing with her Senpais

People would kill for Gura x Pekora/Rushia/Noel/Marine/Haato and they have also been wanting to collab with Gura for a while now

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>>3789488
If she made another channel would she hit 30mil?

>> No.3789516

>>3788991
They did not at all. They've talked about this
They had 100k sub goal. Literally everyone before HoloEN debut thought they were gonna flop because
>English girls trying to be anime
You are a retarded newfag

>> No.3789518

>>3789321
Yet her twitch was relatively unknown, it even had the same name! It wouldn't be weird to think she would get even lower numbers with a completely new alias.
They all have said how they never expected this level of following. They had 100k subs as their year long goals.
In any case, I don't believe they're not working on better stuff with her in the background by now. But we all know Cover is incompetent so who knows....

>> No.3789524

>>3785190
her popularity was unexpected, that is why cover is pivoting some things towards gura, like sponsor streams and things like that

>> No.3789567

>>3789524
Its just her voice. people will meme about this or that thing but her voice is one of the only thot voices where I can listen to it easily without getting annoyed.

>> No.3789613

>>3789567
I don't get why people watch chuubas if their incel trash, do they think Japanese people are different somehow?

>> No.3789619

>>3789321
Her previous channel's influence is vastly overestimated. It doesn't account for the other million and a half subs she got on top of that.

>> No.3789634

>>3789613
Are you a retard or actually a thot?

>> No.3789669

>>3789321
Nigger she didn't even sing in her audition. They had no idea.

>> No.3789819

>>3785406
didnt she have an interview before? i remember she said she liked curry or some shit

>> No.3789965

>>3789819
It's more likely the news site went through Cover because they wanted to interview her

Pretty sure Gura has 0 connections in Japan outside of Cover

>> No.3790125

>>3789272
/hlgg/ and Gura will set a new record again if she collab with Marine or Matsuri.

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>>3785190
No hoodie and not Japanese

>> No.3790180

>>3789669
>they had no idea they were hiring an extremely popular whose videos regularly hit 10m views

Are you serious right now?

>> No.3790212

>>3790180
>extremely popular youtuber

Fix'd

>> No.3790345

>>3790180
You do realize 90% of her views are from tiktok and normalfags who don't even care about her existence right? Her videos have been posted all over the internet without context and very few actually stick around to her.

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>>3787748
She collabed with Anya retardchama.

>> No.3790559

>>3790345
Still easy for anyone to recognize the voice

>oh hey, it's the ok boomer/uwu rap girl lol, gonna sub to her

And that's why she has so many dead subs.

>> No.3790833

>>3785190
Gura should collab with the Yakuza just like Ai-chan did!

>> No.3790847

>>3789321
It didn't even hit 1m until after she debuted as Gura and people were spreading "herp derp forbidden knowledge" everywhere.

>> No.3790958

>>3787718
Why is Iofi so unpopular?

>> No.3790981

>>3790847
>it had 950k, not 1m

Big difference retard

>> No.3791075

>>3785190
Pewdiepie has 110million subscribers,and nobody knows who he is.
and when I say nobody, I don't mean your online friends, I mean the barista, the taxi driver, the clean up lady or that guy you cross paths at the supermarket.

>> No.3791166

>>3791075
Actually, in the Western world that's probably untrue.

>> No.3791176

>>3791075
>Pewdiepie has 110million subscribers,and nobody knows who he is.
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>> No.3791256

because introverted EOP

>> No.3791349

>>3791075
Yeah you're out of touch a little bit there anon, people know who PewDiePie is

>> No.3791456

>>3791075
actual retard

>> No.3791542

>>3790180
Considering the investment they put on her compared to her genmates that can speak Japanese, it is clear that they underestimated the western market and had low expectations from her.
She may be big to us, but they are living in an isolated island using Niconico as their main streaming/hosting service. The nips literally didn’t know about her channel before people on the west found out about Her.

>> No.3791551

>>3791166
>>3791176
>>3791349
>never been outside
>>3791456
faggot

>> No.3791556

>>3785849
>Anon actually expects higher numbers
Fucking hell you retard

>> No.3791630

>>3791075
>>3791551
People know who he is, but mainly because he's a literal nazi, or so I'm told. What are his live numbers like btw?

>> No.3791680

>>3788991
cover expected ID numbers, maybe gen 5 numbers on the more optimistic end, seeing how well their and Niji's foreign branches did. no one was expecting them to be their most successful gen and that's pretty obvious seeing as they had literally nothing lined up for them right after debut like they did for the JPs
>>3789321
HER had 800K at debut at most and hadn't uploaded in almost a year on top of having a practically unknown streaming channel on twitch

>> No.3791684

>>3789321
Wrong! She had like 800K subs at the time of her debut with Hololive.

>> No.3791860

>>3785190
Nobody wants to hire HER because they know

>> No.3793038

>>3789272
GFE*, crank up the normalfag memebait, clickbait thumbnail reaction videos
*GreatWhite Friend Experience

>> No.3796435

Boomer media is very slow to react to new trends.

>> No.3796494

>>3796435
Also like nobody outside of weebs knows about vtubers.

>> No.3796589

>>3785556
This basically

Gura caught the Loli wave meme hard and fast but it’s all out of gas.
She really needs to work harder instead of just coast off meme luck

She’s not even being anymore entertaining

>> No.3797690

>>3785190
Cunny makes american roasties and liberals seethe. A Gura sponsorship would be a death sentence for any company over here

>> No.3798134

A waste of 2M subs. If Kiara had those numbers, she'd already be doing Burger Kink commercials all day long

>> No.3799025

Kizuna Ai was a phenomenon. Gura is just a "content creator," and not a particularly notable one.

>> No.3801393

>>3798134
This. I like watching Gura and I want her to succeed but If she doesn't want it then someone please take her spot, Pekora do your job!

>> No.3801497

>>3785190
Because TV is passe? You don't watch TV. Why the hell do you want Gura to appear on it?

>> No.3801609

1,5M is not that popular today there are hundreds if not thousands 1M+ channels. Kizuna Ai was something really new and ahead of it's time and also huge ton of production, ads and partnership. Hololive are just contracted streamers with a little bit of producing.

>> No.3801616

>>3798134
>Burger Kink
Good lord. You know thirsty chicken would.

>> No.3802085

>>3789321
>HER had 1 million subs when Gura debuted

This is how you know the person is a hypernewfag.

>> No.3802130

>>3788836
The Curry commercial thing was actually a fairly big deal in Japan. They're weird like that.

>> No.3802205

>>3801609
There was literally only 2 Vtubing channels with 1 mil subs, both of which were owned by the same character

Saying "1 mil doesn't matter because everyone has 1 mil" doesn't hold water when there is literally only 1 person with more than 1 mil subs in the whole of Vtubing history at that point.

(Yes, I know Kaguya Luna hit 1 mil before, but she no longer does)

>> No.3802215

>>3785556
I always enjoy reading numberfags' coping posts, but you guys should definitely get new material if you plan to keep this up for a long time. Reading the same arguments all the time has become stale. I have faith in you guys.

>> No.3802236

>>3785190
>a shark girl who grew over 2 million subs in a year
>a literal woman who took over 5 years and hasnt even reached 3 million

AI had much more time to prepare and be industry planted, gura is a hit with potential

>> No.3802642

>>3802205
At the same time though Kizuna AI and the old days of vtubing were produced content but now its livestreaming which frankly is very little difference from regular streamers. A content creator with an avatar hitting 1m subs isn't as ground breaking as what AI did originally in regards to "unique" content. She was all over and got cameos with people like Pewdiepie which was straight up surreal back then.

>> No.3802850

>>3802642
I mean, content and people's tastes change.

That's the same reason why Pewdiepie no longer does much if any Lets Plays on his channel

Saying "Kizuna Ai deserves it much more because she did things differently" denies the fact that there is more competition as before and that the current environment has also changed.

>> No.3802867

Try to find an American company that would want her to advertise for them.

>> No.3803243

>>3802850
I wasn't trying to say she deserves it more, more so just illustrating my perspective of how Kizuna AI rocked the boat compared to what any Hololiver or Niijisanji member is doing. Them being successful is huge for their fans but its not a significant milestone in regards to content creation as a whole y'know.

>> No.3803869

>>3785190
Anon it's current year. TV, adds, etc have been dead as a medium for years. Only boomers still watch that garbage and advertisers don't care about them.

>> No.3804510

>>3791630
High tier of hololive and all young normies know him

>> No.3804936

>>3787718
Chumfags full of themselves when gura's may schedule was full of events

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>>3785556

>> No.3805349

>>3790958
A mix of a thick SEA accent and her art niche.

>> No.3805469

>>3804936
But that chart didn’t even count her outfit stream but count others though.

>> No.3805685

>>3785190
>Where is Gura appearing on TV
My god, is everybody here so new that they already forget this?

https://youtu.be/lwJ1i5lCw0M

This shit just doesn't fly in the west while it's a lot more accepted in Japan.

>> No.3807433

>>3805685
>My god, is everybody here so new that they already forget this?
Add their stupidity into the equation

>> No.3807527

>>3805685
western companies dont use anime characters as ads in the first place. japan has had a bunch of normie ads with anime characters, but the west never carries it out for some reason, even in the geeky pc hardware/IT market.

>> No.3807711

>>3807527
(justified) fear of being cancelled by feministfats probably. when men stop caring about 3d pussy, women lose their only bargaining chip and they are very much aware of this fact.

>> No.3808238

>>3786846
>waaaaaaa how did I become so popular I didn't ask for this TTTTOTTTT
you, thinking what she felt like, when she joined one of the most popular agency of a popular trend in the internet AND speaking in English.

>> No.3808469

>>3808238
Fame is scarier than you think, especially when you gain it overnight.

>> No.3808535

>>3807711
>(justified) fear of being cancelled by feministfats probably
Not saying you're wrong, I just want to say:
>we're not sex toys, men should care about our personalities
>bunch of chicks hide behind 2d drawings so the only thing you can pay attention is their personalities
>waaaaah y'all a bunch of pedos waaaaah
I know it's women logic but come on
Bonus round:
>women can be funny
>female 'comedian' proceeds to tell a stale joke about her even more stale cunt for the nth time
>female introvert hides behind a 2d drawing and makes actual fun content
>b-but these are not real women, j-just because you d-doxxed them and you've found their r-real identities doesn't mean they're women

>> No.3808567

There's like no funny clips of her besides "A" and a few other early moments.
The only thing that can be marketed about her is the design, which recently got downgraded too.

>> No.3808581

>>3808238
Civia and HoloID members got at least 50k during their debut

Most of the ENs were expecting at least that amount, maybe 100k in 2-3 months

No one expected Gura to get 1mil in one month, popular company or not.

>> No.3808636

>>3808535
So vtuber actually empowering? Imagine the seethes on twitter if you claim this.

>> No.3808645

>>3808567
t. I don't like her, so she doesn't deserve her success

Other people find her funny. Move on

Have fun with your favourite Chuuba and just accept she won't get the same amount of subs. It's easier that way

>> No.3808657

>>3808567
Funny is subjective and heavily bias, even more so if you hate the source.

>> No.3808676

>>3808636
I can't talk for the rest of the people here but vtubers have made me regain my faith in finding a 3d woman

>> No.3809031

>>3807527
>but the west never carries it out for some reason
The west still has an aversion for anything cute or "anime" related, especially in the US. This is especially noticeable with game covers, where they veeeeeeery often got a "pissed off" or "angry" version of them compared to the rest of the world, because it was too "cute" or "friendly".
Of course, things are changing, anime and japanese culture is more mainstream than ever all over the world, but we're still far from having normie ads with anime characters.
I could see that happening in Europe, though.

>> No.3809315

>>3807711
Are you aware that you're insane or did it just kind of creep up on you?

>> No.3809367

>>3808636
People outside of this board actually do claim that and there was no noticeable seething.

>> No.3809553

>>3808676
Same, after daily 4-5 hour of listening to Gura I somehow feel less nervous being around a girl.

>> No.3809581

>>3789272
Original music videos
Branded partnerships and content
External colllabs with people who have higher sub counts than her

>> No.3809583

>>3790475
It was actually a cute collab and I hope they do it again

>> No.3809604

Reminder that JP gets ads like this, but we have to look at redguards for the millionth time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQDVX5MUvVI

>> No.3809626

>>3809367
I’ll try this empowering argument next time a Twitter whore call me a pedo.

>> No.3809693

>>3809626
Having an anime avatar to hide your identity allowing you to be be more comfortable streaming and interacting with your audience and avoid feeling like you're just being judged based on your looks as a woman could be argued as empowering. Having that avatar look 11 years old makes you pedobait, yes.

>> No.3809740

>>3809604
and other media like games also collabs with vtubers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS4JCRBCLhc

the japanese geek scenes are multi layered and connected with each other. the american industry doesnt have such a structure except for sjw nepotism lol

>> No.3809797

>>3809740
>redditspacer is a /pol/roach stuck in 2010
Every time.

>> No.3809862

>>3808581
The thing is, Gura and the other 4 was marketed as THE group that speaks the most relevant language in the world while CNs and IDs don't, no matter how fluent their English is (Reine and Ollie). I would argue that Ollie and Reine is just as deserving of the success and popularity that EN enjoys (when they speak English) but the fact that they're both indogs, speak indog and marketed as such, means that they're eternally cucked from the limelight. This also applied to JP holos, to a lesser extent. Marketing and branding (EN specifically) contributes more to a chuuba's success than talent or personality. Otherwise, Kiara would get ID numbers and Ayame would get Mori numbers.

>> No.3810498

>>3785556
>There are literal male vtubers with better stream viewership and more subs than her
This is your brain outside of meds, Jesas

>> No.3810823

>>3785190
I think anon forget to realize 2-3 million subs for YouTube is actually pretty low for popularity in the grand scheme of things. Depending on where in the world the subs come from as well it’s less then a 1% of everyone, which is why most people still don’t know of her.

>> No.3810971

>>3785556
fucking this, taking all this into consideration i dont know how she has fans on 4chan of all places. Fells so fucking good to see Pekora getting constant numbers even in non popular games, that's real success.

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>>3785556

>> No.3811349

>>3810971
Popular Vtuber has fans in 4chan

Shocking

>> No.3811406

>>3785556
>There are literal male vtubers with more subs than her
Such as?

>> No.3811716

>>3785556
I just watch Gura and Ina and sometimes Korone when I eat for like 10 minutes before doing something else. Why are people obsessed with vtubers?

>> No.3812573

>>3786075
>No one under 60 has watched TV in the last twenty years.

You're 15 and have no idea what you're talking about.

>> No.3813514

>ITT: People don't know what a "median average" is or how it works

>> No.3813566

>>3785556
>Kizuna Ai
This girl is almost close on collaborating with PewDiePie. Shame she threw that shit away.

>> No.3813567

>>3811716
>I only watch them for ~10 minutes
>But I still post here
You aren't fooling anyone.

>> No.3813626

>>3813566
great. the man doesn't like vtuber anyway.

>> No.3813710

>>3813567
I saw the post in 4chan's random bar
fug you bro

>> No.3813741

>>3813710
Sure you did.

>> No.3814130

>>3813626
I thought he doesn't like vtubers that pretend to be japanese-like to follow the trend? He seems alright with it when Kizuna Ai sing his hey hey monika song.

>> No.3814534

>>3789272
>sing
Regular music cover releases (on a quarterly or bi-monthly schedule). Unannounced for meme spreading potential.
Original song releases. These are the hype songs for her, so she need to tease the projects with the correct timing and actually pull through with releasing them instead of trying saying things without thinking and giving the impression she's just "all talk".

>collaborate
Find people who can speak with her in English, have them play games or chat with her. Figure out what ENMA's problem is and solve it.
Have her participate in larger scale events.

>host
She needs to have variety streaming content, since games by themselves are irregular for her viewership. This one is the trickest subject because she would have to be able to develop a format that she can carry with her voice alone since L2D VTubers have limited range of motion and access to 3D is hard.

>> No.3814606

>>3790958
To paraphrase her, she "doesn't do popular things".

>> No.3814691

>>3787718
Reminder that Homostars are protected class no matter how low they are.

>> No.3815348

>>3814534
Forgot to add:
When playing games (seeing that she's a tard that needs to be wrangled), she should stick to playing said game at least twice a week instead of the current weekly play schedule. Play a game through to its end, get it out of the way and onto the next one.

>> No.3815948

>>3785220
and will surpass Kizuna withing three months

>> No.3815986

>>3787748
kek you go back to worshiping your over sized chicken

>> No.3816072

>>3796589
>She really needs to work harder instead of just coast off meme luck
still does better than her fellow members with low effort
imagine if she started to try, you would be seething even more

>> No.3816091

>>3785556
True.

>> No.3816436

>>3790559
>And that's why she has so many dead subs.
no, dead subs are common occurrence, especially when you are steaming channel.
Like just take a look at Pewdiepie channel...
He shits out tons of videos and his view counts aren't even 1/10 of the sub count, Gura is going to go up with algorithm and drag holoen with it...

>> No.3818794

>>3813741
I did you faggot

don't question mmmrreeeeeeeeee

>> No.3818873

>>3816436
>people sub to pewdiepie because of memes and don't watch his content
>people sub to Gura because of memes and don't watch her content
Exactly

>> No.3820831

>>3785190
she needs to phase into a stand-up comedian.

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I can wait for Gura to advertise herself at a Comic LO issue

>> No.3821942

>>3785556
Based and truthpilled

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