i was fucking ruined when i learned the truth bros

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Anonymous Sat Nov 26 01:49:11 2022 No.37778844 [Reply] [Original]

i was fucking ruined when i learned the truth bros

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 01:54:36 2022 No.37779110 now I feel gay for masturbating to her ASMR

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 01:55:33 2022 No.37779153 what truth

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 02:01:34 2022 No.37779442 File: 843 KB, 603x760, 1632092638551.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>37779110 me too anon....its a shame too, such a cute persona and avatar

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 02:03:31 2022 No.37779528 File: 264 KB, 1000x734, 1631145824626.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>37779153 for your sake im gonna let you stay blissfully ignorant. that, or you can go dig up some old archived threads yourself

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 02:09:44 2022 No.37779832 >>37779528 delete your thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 02:12:50 2022 No.37780001 File: 401 KB, 2600x3250, gs5z3ki6f8t81.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>37779832 i would but i like lily hopkins' avatar a lot and i still enjoy posting it

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 02:17:24 2022 No.37780279 >>37779153 She's trans and apparently that's a dealbreaker to schizos that'll never get in her pants either way It's inconsequential

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 02:21:32 2022 No.37780505 >>37780279 im just super transphobic anon. its not about getting into his pants, that was never even in the equation

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 02:24:40 2022 No.37780691 >>37780505 It's even weirder that you care if you never intended to get into her pants Why would you ever care about the sexuality of someone you don't want to fuck?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 02:25:09 2022 No.37780714 >>37780691 i just hate trannies.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 02:25:39 2022 No.37780746 >>37780714 fair

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 02:26:06 2022 No.37780771 >>37780691 Trans isn't sexuality, it's a mental illness regarding gender. I have no problem with gays or lesbians but transsexuals are mentally ill and should not be encouraged under any circumstances.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 02:26:49 2022 No.37780814 >>37780771 this. so much this

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 02:29:40 2022 No.37780956

>>37780714
Seems weird to me to care about something that has no effect on you but you do you I guess
>>37780771
>Trans isn't sexuality, it's a mental illness regarding gender.
Sure, so what?
>should not be encouraged under any circumstances.
Why not? Every peer reviewed medical study concludes that's the most effective treatment for the illness

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 02:31:44 2022 No.37781084 >>37780279 This is a falseflagger but you didn't need me to know

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 02:34:17 2022 No.37781238 >>37780956 >Every peer reviewed medical study Peer reviewed more like peer pressured

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 02:40:36 2022 No.37781585 >>37781238 If your only argument is "I don't believe you" with nothing to support that doubt you don't have an argument You're just being a moron that refuses to accept information that goes against your worldview based on feelings

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 02:48:27 2022 No.37782039 I unironically hate trans people and think the world would be better without them.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 02:56:07 2022 No.37782477

>>37780956
>Every peer reviewed medical study concludes that's the most effective treatment for the illness

If I think I am Napoleon the best course of action is to make everyone treat me like I am?

Don't get me wrong trans ppl can do what they want but they can't expect me to put any work into their persona. Also I dislike the trend to diagnose lesbians/tomboys or gays as trans especially at young age.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:00:01 2022 No.37782703 >>37782039 It would be, half the shit in the world is just them complaining about not getting enough representation. Then you take out all the Mutts on top of that and you probably achieve world peace.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:01:56 2022 No.37782833 File: 596 KB, 960x1234, 1658534613797579.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>37782039 based gender dysphoria should be treated and no one should encourage these people's delusions

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:02:40 2022 No.37782873 Is this really a secret? You can tell from the voice. I always figured people were just ok with that

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:09:03 2022 No.37783239

>>37782477
>If I think I am Napoleon the best course of action is to make everyone treat me like I am?
If it's a widespread enough phenomena that there's decades of modern medical research into it that concludes that it's the best way to treat that mental illness, then yes, I would say treating you like you are Napoleon is the best course of action
>but they can't expect me to put any work into their persona.
Why not? You're expected to treat other people with basic courtesy, do you have severe autism or some other mental illness that makes calling someone she instead of he an unreasonable ask?
>Also I dislike the trend to diagnose lesbians/tomboys or gays as trans especially at young age.
That's fair but neither here nor there, only retards do that, and are generally shit on by trans people

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:10:53 2022 No.37783357

>>37780956
>cites "studies" while calling it a mental illness
Congratulations, you're directly contradicting the current zeitgeist according to which nonstandard gender identity isn't a mental illness and gender dysphoria is not considered essential to being trans.
You're not going to get much mileage trying to be "the good tranny" who is accepted by 4chan for acknowledging that you're mentally ill, nor are you going to be accepted anywhere else because the implication that being trans = mentally ill makes you a piece of shit bigot by that set of standards.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:11:27 2022 No.37783387

>>37778844
You guys are a blight on this hobby.
They’re voice actors, the constant doxxposting breaks immersion and ruins it for everyone.

Unless the chuuba is posting RM pics on her main account like Vwhorejo, the shit you guys pull is no worse than the nijisisters.

I don’t even know who pic related, I just fucking hate you guys.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:12:40 2022 No.37783451 >>37780956 >Every peer reviewed medical study concludes that's the most effective treatment for the illness How did they define effective?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:13:41 2022 No.37783531 >>37782833 Treated how? The most effective treatment as per medical research consensus is what you call "encouraging these people's delusions" I can at least respect the anons saying they're just hateful people instead of pretending not to be

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:13:56 2022 No.37783549

>>37783239
>If the delusion is popular enough and so annoying that the best way to deal with these schizos all at once is to say "yes, it's real now shut up", then it's valid
lol

All it takes to be a troon is to turn thrice in front of a mirror at midnight, clap your hands and say you believe you are now X gender

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:18:27 2022 No.37783800

>>37783357
I'm not trans, I'm just not a newfag with the need to feel accepted by 4chan by holding the correct opinion of tranny bad because said so
>>37783451
Suicide rates dropping to the same level as the general population when receiving gender affirming treatment

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:19:15 2022 No.37783839 >>37783531 >Treated how? I don't know retard, how do we treat other mental illnesses? do we also encourage every psycopath dreaming of chopping up bodies or raping children?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:24:11 2022 No.37784131 >>37783839 How do you reason that wanting to be addressed as a different gender is equivalent to murder and child rape? Mental illness aren't all treated the same, and in the case of gender dysphoria gender affirmation is the best available treatment

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:26:38 2022 No.37784255 >>37783839 >asks this on /vt/ where definitely normal humans would kill imaginary 2d people just because they got a different number

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:26:48 2022 No.37784265 >>37783800 >Suicide rates dropping to the same level I'm not asking for your definition.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:29:08 2022 No.37784405 >>37784265 I'm not giving you my definition, I'm giving you the studies'

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:31:41 2022 No.37784554 >>37784405 Why do you expect me to take you at your word? Give me the "studies" dumbass.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:35:37 2022 No.37784781

>>37784131
ah sorry, you're right, this is the one special mental illness that needs to be treated in a special way so these special people don't kill themselves for wanting vaginas instead of dicks
it's the only mental illness "treated" by encouraging it further, more people are coming out claiming to be suffering from it, and you don't see what's wrong with that approach? this shit is especially dangerous on young impressionable people

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:38:15 2022 No.37784942

>>37784781
Mental illness is mental illness anon.
It doesn’t make sense for a reason, if chopping off a penis would save the person’s life that’s fine.

Obviously it’s scummy how much media are over correcting by imposing gayness in every aspect of our lives, it’s a minority of people that have this condition.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:39:46 2022 No.37785037 Hold on, is she a Babiniku or a tranny? If babi, I can masturbate and not be disgusted.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:42:44 2022 No.37785217

>>37784554
I expect you to be able to do research yourself but here's one
>doi:10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2022.0978
>>37784781
Every mental illness is "special" and treated in different ways
I guess I can't expect you to understand that when the only other "mental illnesses" you seem to know are "murder" and "child rape"

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:43:20 2022 No.37785257 >>37785037 wtf is a babiniku

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:44:09 2022 No.37785317 How fucking stupid are you that you didn't pick up on the fact this was a dude using a voice changer the instant you heard his stream? Like you didn't notice how fucking weird he sounded?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:44:23 2022 No.37785332 >>37785257 Openly male playing a female character

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:46:42 2022 No.37785464 >>37785217 I'm sorry I didn't list every single mental disorder in my imageboard post, please do enlighten me and share with me the other mental illnesses treated by encouraging them

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:48:20 2022 No.37785560 >>37785464 ASD

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:50:23 2022 No.37785695 >>37785217 kudos for sharing the actual study but this is stupid >In this prospective cohort of 104 TNB youths aged 13 to 20 years [...] of course any kind of affirmation works on young people, I don't need an MPH to figure that one out

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:51:46 2022 No.37785772 I still like Lily

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:53:37 2022 No.37785893

>>37783357
No, he isn't contradicting anything. Being trans isn't inherently mental illness, only when it causes significant distress and impairment in the normal activities of daily life, this is a requirement for literally every single mental disorder. Consider Schizoid Personality Disorder, in theory, there's probably quite a few people who meet enough of the symptoms to qualify if that were all you needed to be diagnosed, yet many don't actually experience distress as a result of those symptoms, so they never so much as see a therapist, even though schizoid lifestyles set off huge alarm bells for others, the distress is not a guarantee, and if you're perfectly satisfied living your life with negligible human contact it would be inappropriate to call that a mental disorder, because healthcare is about the needs of the patient, not about forcing them to fit into behavior that makes others feel good. You should consider shutting the fuck up next time you feel compelled to discuss mental health issues, because as someone who has published research, your snide fucking comment immediately made it obvious that you don't know a goddamn thing about the topic. This is literally covered in your first fucking intro psych class, in fact it probably gets covered in many HIGH SCHOOL level psych classes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:54:27 2022 No.37785937 >>37785464 We’re not psychologists and neither are you. Stop pretending to pontificate about something affecting people you’ve never interacted with. We’re here to talk about vtubers, not take part in your tired culture war.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:55:52 2022 No.37786014 >>37785893 ...based?

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:56:32 2022 No.37786059

>>37785695
So it's obvious to you that gender affirmation works on young people to have a positive impact on their mental health, and yet it's a bad thing?
What makes you believe that it only works because they are young and not because it's an effective treatment for gender dysphoria?

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:57:59 2022 No.37786140

>>37785695
You think "any kind of affirmation" works to prevent suicide in 13-20 year olds? Are you actually that fucking stupid? Suicide is one of the biggest causes of death for that age group, and your expert opinion is a regular "atta boy" would solve all of them, from trans people, to abuse cases, to just plain miserable people. Your opinions are worthless and you should avoid offering them again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:58:59 2022 No.37786193 >>37786140 I'm glad these children are getting castrated, but I'm sad you've not been castrated yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 03:59:59 2022 No.37786245 >>37786059 because almost any young person you encourage on their bullshit will feel better about themselves, whatever that bullshit may be

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 04:00:44 2022 No.37786292 >>37785893 Haha faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 04:03:18 2022 No.37786457 >>37778844 I TOLD YOU FAGGOTS ALL ALONG BUT YOU DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR IT. >No, that's not a voice changer. Girls' voices drop low like that when crying all the time Ya'll niggas gay as hell.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 04:07:55 2022 No.37786732

>>37786245
Even putting aside the massive leap that is that any affirmation works as opposed to gender affirmation working for gender dysphoria, let's pretend that the case
If it works what's the problem? You say "she" instead of "he" and some young person doesn't kill themselves or suffer from as severe depression, how is it a bad thing to indulge in their "delusion"?
If a kid shows you their crayon drawing do you tell them it's shit and to get fucked?
That's not how normal human interactions work, you play into delusion and bullshit every second you interact with people

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 04:08:23 2022 No.37786762 >>37780279 If he still has his dick then I'll give her a view, unless he's on Twitch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 04:10:48 2022 No.37786898 File: 30 KB, 654x654, 1658517691910640.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>37786732 it's wrong get fucked

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 04:24:35 2022 No.37787551
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>>37786457
Why would anyone listen to a retard?
If it's a voice changer it wouldn't have gone that low, and no voice changer is that good, it's voice training.
You might as well have said Lily is a man because frogs are gay. Of course no one took you seriously.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 04:45:09 2022 No.37788497 >>37787551 >no voice changer is that good It was fucking obvious he was using a voice changer, you didn't want to hear it

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 04:48:28 2022 No.37788638 >>37788497 Yeah the same way it's obvious to all the normies that Gura is a man using a voice changer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 04:48:36 2022 No.37788644 >>37786732 If saying "she" instead of "he" is enough to make somebody neck themselves then they should be called "she" until they do it. Get that insanely defective shit out of the genepool.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 04:49:49 2022 No.37788708 >>37788644 Ironically it's people like you that get weeded out of the genepool

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 04:58:40 2022 No.37789097 >>37786014 Anyone that normalizes transgenderism is not based.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:00:31 2022 No.37789169 >>37789097 Being educated and having published papers is based Forming your worldview from shitposts is not

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:04:05 2022 No.37789299

>>37788708
No actually it's trannies. They self-weed themselves out of the genepool which is their only redeeming quality.

>>37789169
>Being educated
There's nothing educated about pretending that a man is a women or vice versa. That's just about the least educated thing possible.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:04:48 2022 No.37789324 >>37778844 Is it a girl gone guy or a guy gone girl?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:08:14 2022 No.37789456 >>37789299 Do you even know what educated means?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:09:11 2022 No.37789499 >>37789169 Depends what one is educated in. Queer theory and tranny shit? Useless bullshit and your papers are worthless drivel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:09:58 2022 No.37789529 >>37788638 Are you fucking kidding? Are you deaf? Have you never heard a woman? All these dudes pretending to be girls have this high-pitched whistling distortion going on that sounds very unnatural

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:11:09 2022 No.37789572 >>37780505 >im just super transphobic >being afraid of trans people pathetic

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:11:35 2022 No.37789588 >>37789529 Have you ever heard a voice changer?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:11:52 2022 No.37789602 lmao i can't believe you fuckers just keep feeding the troll

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:14:21 2022 No.37789697 >>37789499 Even being educated on queer shit is more based than being uneducated You better have a PhD in a hard science if you want to look down on psychology scholars

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:14:56 2022 No.37789729

>>37789456
>Do you even know what educated means?
Yes. Educated is knowing that if something was born with a penis that makes it male and if something was born with a vagina that makes it female. Uneducated is believing in the retarded delusion that something with a penis can be female and something with a vagina can be male or that sex can be changed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:16:23 2022 No.37789777 >>37783531 ? Medication and therapy like any other mental illnesses, and if they kill themselves thats just cleaning the gene pool. Fuck em

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:16:34 2022 No.37789783

>>37789499
>Queer theory and tranny shit? Useless bullshit

>be educated in gender studies
>not afraid of genitals because you understand the science behind it and want people to get better

>be uneducated faggot on 4chan
>terrified of genitals and repeat "YWNBAW" for the millionth time because you're conditioned to just reply in shitposts instead of forming actual thoughts

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:19:26 2022 No.37789899

>>37783800
Suicide rates INCREASES in the first 7 year after treatment , because they realise they butchered their body in a contorted Bootleg Vagina or Penis. (Bootleg as in, it looks like one but isn't real or working. Like many chinese product)
You are retarded

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:19:27 2022 No.37789900 >>37789783 >not afraid of genitals because you understand the science behind it and want people to get better Enabling someone's mental illness doesn't help them overcome it. It does the opposite. You'll never be a woman by the way.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:20:44 2022 No.37789953

>>37789729
>being educated means having a grade school understanding of things
Did you drop out before 10th grade? I believe that's when the trend of "forget everything you learned before, it was a gross oversimplification and it's a very complex topic" starts
If that's the case I can understand how you'd think passing 2nd grade makes you educated on this topic

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:21:45 2022 No.37789998 >>37789900 >source trust me bro the science is lying I saw it on youtube

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:21:49 2022 No.37790004 >>37789900 t. sheep literally repeating the memes like he's conditioned to

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:22:15 2022 No.37790017 >>37789953 Shhh tranny lover, go back to your daily dilate session

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:24:01 2022 No.37790075 >>37790017 You’re really winning hearts and minds on a Vtuber board /pol/fag.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:24:11 2022 No.37790082

>>37789953
>being educated means having a grade school understanding of things
By definition a grade school education falls under the umbrella of educated. If you think men can be women then your level of education falls below grade school. Hell, it falls below kindergarten. You're monstrously stupid, Anon.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:24:36 2022 No.37790095

Why the fuck do people on the internet seem to have the inexplicable inability to ever post links to articles or studies that they get their info from? Is it just so you can win over the dumber people who don't care about the sources without having to provide actual evidence to support your point?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:26:36 2022 No.37790164 >>37790075 >not sucking their chinese bootleg tranny dick is poltard Call me Mister /pol/pots then you fag. "Mister", dont forget it queeny

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:26:36 2022 No.37790161 >>37789998 >the science is lying You're lying about science.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:27:05 2022 No.37790181 >>37790095 I posted a doi to one of the studies that support my point, anons just prefer to ignore and dismiss it to not have their fragile ego be hurt

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:28:57 2022 No.37790252 >>37790181 I based my information on 2000 year of human history and multiple cultures other than your AmeriTrash. You probably pray each night to your 2 Pedo that coined "gender identity"

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:29:43 2022 No.37790282 >>37790095 https://segm.org/ajp_correction_2020 https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:29:49 2022 No.37790286 >>37790082 I learned in second grade that you can't subtract a bigger number from a smaller one By your standard anyone that's capable of solving 3 - 5 is monstrously stupid and you're smart for saying it's an impossible math question

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:30:51 2022 No.37790337 >>37790252 Case in point

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:31:25 2022 No.37790362 >>37790286 >false equivalencies Woman hands typed this bullshit

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:31:43 2022 No.37790371 >>37790252 Ah yes, the "people have been doing/saying x for millenia before we stopped so therefore it is obviously good" defense. That worked soooo well supporting slavery didn't it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:33:20 2022 No.37790426 >>37789097 if i can't bother giving a shit about someone piercing their ears or getting a tattoo i can't give a shit about trannies.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:34:29 2022 No.37790469

>>37790337
Case in point indeed, the rest of the world is laughing at your shitty nation becoming the number 1 spots for sexual predator trying to be woman.

>look at my 1 research with no relevant peer reviews
Echo chambers exist in science and stats too tismo. You must believe blacks to be ultra violent by your logic. Racist tsk tsk tsk

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:35:11 2022 No.37790484 >>37790286 Yet something when terribly wrong with your education to the point that you actually think men can be women. So here you sit on 4chan insisting that bananas can be apples and up can be down. Very sad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:35:37 2022 No.37790499 >>37790371 You mean the oldest trade in the world still going on to this day right now because of many geographical reasons? Lemme guess, colored hair?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:35:38 2022 No.37790500 >>37790252 this fucker still believes the earth is the center of the universe and that negative numbers aren't real.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:35:56 2022 No.37790516 Still no proof

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:36:10 2022 No.37790523 >>37785257 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babiniku

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:36:10 2022 No.37790524 lmaooooo nigger trannies in this thread ywnbaw ever

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:36:51 2022 No.37790543 >>37790524 Why the fuck would anyone want to be a woman?

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:37:14 2022 No.37790553

>>37790469
what the fuck is this idiot talking about? The scientific community is literally designed specifically to avoid echo chambers. They require many many MANY methods of peer review and study even from outside sources to even begin trusting any findings.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:37:18 2022 No.37790555 >>37790500 >more extreme and false equivalencies Jesus woman, i understand that you're controlled by emotion, but slow down and take a deep breath honey.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:37:54 2022 No.37790574 >>37790371 >That worked soooo well supporting slavery didn't it? Are you one those retards who thinks slavery doesn't exist anymore? Does the pit of your stupidity reach that far down?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:37:59 2022 No.37790577 >>37790555 shitty replies for shitty arguments.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:38:15 2022 No.37790587 >>37790499 Are you actually going to sit there and tell me you support slavery?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:38:56 2022 No.37790606 >>37790426 You don't speak for me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:39:22 2022 No.37790628 >>37790587 >>37790577 /!\ RETARDED WOMAN MOMEMT/!\

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:39:33 2022 No.37790635 >>37790606 who the fuck said i did?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:39:57 2022 No.37790645 >>37790524 >anyone that doesn't fall for the culture wars propaganda obviously is a tranny

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:40:39 2022 No.37790669 >>37790628 >>37790574 >>37790499 Why did I ever come to 4chan expecting a modicum of ethical thinking.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:41:34 2022 No.37790699 >>37790628 >gives shitty flimsy argument >gets counter exampled >"y-you're a woman!!" kek nice fucking argument

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:41:35 2022 No.37790701 >>37790577 How does it feel when everyone can recognize your coloured hair and Gender just by how you argue and write. Don't tell me, i know you're about to shit paragraphs cuz u mad

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:42:36 2022 No.37790726 >>37790699 >>37790669 There's nothing ethical about enabling mental retard to cut their dick off. They should shoot them instead

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:43:04 2022 No.37790738

>>37780771
>>37780814
Pure homosexuality is also a mental illness regarding sexuality.
There are some people that are just perverts with fetishes but people that are unable to feel any attraction to the correct sex are broken in their brain as much as a tranny.
Unfortunately there isn’t any cure for either scenario and due to the political zeitgeist there is unlikely to be one anytime soon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:43:06 2022 No.37790739 >>37790701 why the fuck would I want to be a woman?

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:43:33 2022 No.37790752

>>37790669
There's nothing ethical about enabling mental illness. Telling a man his delusions of being a women are correct is like handing a match to an arsonist and will probably directly lead to him killing himself. You look down on 4chan's ethics, but actually, 4chan has better ethics than you do. Let that sink in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:43:45 2022 No.37790763 >>37790635 I don't give a shit about what does or doesn't concern you.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:43:53 2022 No.37790769 >>37790699 But its works tho, your a terminally online Slag (woman) therefore any of your opinion or whatever are now ignored and laughed at. Thats life honey

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:44:54 2022 No.37790791 >>37790763 then why the fuck did you reply to me in the first place? are you fucking retarded?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:44:57 2022 No.37790795 i will rape all the women in this thread

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:45:03 2022 No.37790799

>>37780956
> Why not? Every peer reviewed medical study concludes that's the most effective treatment for the illness
“Science” so soft it couldn’t cut butter. Psychologists aren’t even to consider it a mental illness at all anymore, which gives rise to the question of why they are even “treating” it with gross bodily mutilation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:45:07 2022 No.37790804 >>37790752 It's like the doctors that cripple people intentionally because they believe they're supposed to be paraplegics. Literally trans-ableism

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:45:32 2022 No.37790813 >>37790752 B-b-b-but my papor an0n! Thyx are real. (My pronoun are zex et zix)

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:45:41 2022 No.37790814 >>37790752 >calling someone a she because they asked you to is the same as arson and murder If you're that braindead I can see how you'd think 4chan's ethics are good

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:45:58 2022 No.37790828 ywnbaw, and if there are any women in this thread post tits onigai

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:46:05 2022 No.37790831

>>37790752
what's the fucking alternative to letting them think what they want? Forcibly correcting them, killing them, dehumanizing them, and above all taking away their capability to make descisions about their own body out of some grandiose idea that you have the absolutly correct say in all matters relating to gender? That's more unethical than anything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:46:23 2022 No.37790842 >>37790769 >everyone laughs at your shitty "i-it's tradition" tier argument >copes by pretending you were laughing first jesas

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:46:47 2022 No.37790849 >>37784942 So you also encourage people with body integrity disorder to cut off their perfectly functional arms and legs because their sick brain says they should?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:46:50 2022 No.37790851 >>37790791 You replied to me first, faggot. You compared concerns for piercings to trannies.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:47:18 2022 No.37790863 This bitch is retarded, her slavery argument litteraly proves the point of "People now say its okay and works" doesn't mean it's gonna stay that way, so your paper are fucking useless

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:47:46 2022 No.37790873 >>37790851 you replied to me first saying "based", you fucking mongoloid. i didn't give a shit about you thinking it wasn't in fact based.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:48:04 2022 No.37790878

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>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:48:18 2022 No.37790886 >>37790842 Your a tranny supporter AND a woman, of course i laugh at your stupid ass Americunt

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:48:27 2022 No.37790894 >>37790842 I'm having a good laugh seeing them get emotional and pretend they're the ones laughing

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:49:04 2022 No.37790914 God can we get a fucking janny in here to nuke this god forsaken board, nothing will change and no one will think any differently after it's gone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:49:19 2022 No.37790919 >>37785893 Most “psychology” isn’t even science. Has any of your publishings been replicated? Can they be?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:49:44 2022 No.37790932 genuine concern about people that actually support trannies. Wtf has come of this world

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:50:15 2022 No.37790946 >>37790886 >>37790894 >y-you're doing gender wrong!! >no YOU're pathetic for not giving a shit about what people do with themselves hmm

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:50:55 2022 No.37790969 >>37790645 >See a tranny >Feel utterly disgusted >Y-you are falling for culture war propaganda!! Sorry, mate, you are a disgusting degenerate freak, plain and simple.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:51:02 2022 No.37790973 >>37789783 If you aren’t afraid of genitals why do you cut them off and turn them inside out? Why do you insist on destroying healthy genitalia in a hopeless quest to appease ab unhealthy mind?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:51:04 2022 No.37790976 >>37790873 That wasn't me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:51:51 2022 No.37791003 >>37790645 trannies are nasty man

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:52:26 2022 No.37791025 Read through this thread. Don't mind trannies, but holy shit are the people complaining about them insufferable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:53:27 2022 No.37791061 >>37790831 You have three options >enabling and reenforcing their delusions >attempting to surpress their delusions by force >ignoring their delusions one of these options is ethical

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:54:35 2022 No.37791102 >>37790831 So to repeat an earlier post, you approve of cutting off the healthy arms and legs of people with Body Integrity Disorder because it is what their defective brains want?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:54:41 2022 No.37791108 i can smell the 41% in here

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:54:45 2022 No.37791113 >>37791061 >one of these options is ethical Correct, the one that is proven by scientific study to work to reduce suffering is the ethical one

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:54:51 2022 No.37791114 >>37791003 literally the only good anti tranny argument so far. at least this one's honest and not trying to hopelessly rationalize their hatred with retardation-inducing "arguments".

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:55:15 2022 No.37791126 >>37791102 >Arguing for paternalism My sides.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:55:42 2022 No.37791140 >>37791113 yeah the ignoring one

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:55:47 2022 No.37791142 >>37791113 science hasn't 'proven' anything related to this topic, scientific studies cannot prove anything related to mental health

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:56:28 2022 No.37791160 >>37791102 >complying with someone asking you to call him/her a she/he is on the same level as complying with someone asking you to cut off their limbs Fucking hell

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:56:44 2022 No.37791165 we should exterminate the trannies!

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:57:47 2022 No.37791197

>>37791126
No, answer the question.
Do you support treating people with Body Integrity Disorder by amputating their perfectly healthy arms and legs because of the disorder in their brain makes them want that?
Do you not have the ethical and intellectual rigor to give an honest answer to that?

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:58:46 2022 No.37791232

>>37791102
If they're gonna kill themselves trying to get rid of their arms and legs by themselves it's better to just let them get them removed professionally. There's nothing else you can do other than that or actively try to fight their beliefs which is both not going to work and counter productive. Ideally in a situation like this the person would be rigorously screened for other mental issues and potential cures for them before allowing their delusions to go through, but if there's no other option it's the best there is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 05:59:49 2022 No.37791270 >>37791197 NTA nor the person who you replied to earlier, but you should really learn argumentative theory before attempting to make transitive claims between two wildly different topics.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:00:56 2022 No.37791303

>>37791142
If you want to be pedantic sure, but anyone in the scientific community understands that and interprets the words accordingly instead of expecting everyone to be hyperverbose
The one that has scientific studies that most support the hypothesis of having significant positive correlation with harm reduction is the ethical choice

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:01:58 2022 No.37791339 >>37791160 >Someone feels their penis or breasts don’t belong on their body and want them cut off >Someone feels their arm or leg doesn’t belong on their body and wants it cut off What is the problem with the 2nd one but not the first?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:02:11 2022 No.37791349 >>37778844 I'd fuck lily and her roommate in the ass I don't care

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:03:37 2022 No.37791401 File: 1010 KB, 1200x1737, 3748f520-949c-11ec-8938-a7b5a51b7d2e.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>37791349 Same

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:03:52 2022 No.37791410

>>37791303
>The one that has scientific studies that most support the hypothesis of having significant positive correlation with harm reduction is the ethical choice
No it isn't, because "science" barely knows anything about this topic. Mental health is far too subjective and far too unobservable to do scientific studies on and reach solid conclusions.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:04:24 2022 No.37791434

im gonna be real with you man, idk if your actually a tranny or a seething woman but if you are a tranny. Do you really believe you pass as a woman? like ever? cause it really fucking obvious your not one. from your shoulders to the Adams apple. you MFs are really ugly. Like REALLY ugly

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:04:27 2022 No.37791437

>>37791270
They’re highly comparable in that both are sicknesses of the mind that result in the person wanting to destroy and remove their healthy body parts.
If the point of psychology is to bring peace to the patient and cater to what makes them happy as said then why would you not want to treat both in the same fashion by mutilating their bodies to suit the requests of their brain?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:04:38 2022 No.37791453 >>37791410 So we should base it off our feelings and traditions instead?

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:05:05 2022 No.37791474

>>37791339
I'm sorry, do you honest to god not see the difference between a person who doesn't have tits and a person who doesn't have fucking limbs? I'll spell it out for you: someone with no dick can still function completely normally in literally every other way. Tits and dicks are quite literally the most circumstantial parts of the human body.
And you're under the assumption all trannies undergo surgery, when this is hardly ever the case. Most femtrannies just hang around with their dicks and most maletrannies just hide their tits.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:05:06 2022 No.37791475

>>37791339
The difference is that the second one is most likely caused by readily understood mental issues that have many potential treatments while the first one is difficult to exactly identify or treat so the optimal answer is to simply go along with their belief.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:06:51 2022 No.37791532 >>37791453 You should take everything into consideration, scientific studies aren't the only source of information, and I'm not talking about feelings or tradition

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:08:08 2022 No.37791570 >>37791532 But they are definitely the best source of information, or would you rather trust your under educated self rather than someone who explicitely studies this stuff?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:08:20 2022 No.37791577 >>37791532 Present your alternative then, if it's not science, feelings, or tradition, what should we base ethical decisions on?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:09:44 2022 No.37791628 >>37791570 >But they are definitely the best source of information Depends. For psychology? Definitely not. There's things that are known but not verifiable, that's psychology, and that's most of human knowledge to be honest

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:11:54 2022 No.37791695 >>37791628 Then besides science, feelings, or tradition, what are the best ways of determining and known unknowns?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:12:00 2022 No.37791702 we should kill all the trannies! that will solve the issue! or just wait for them to do it themselves kek[/ spoiler]

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:12:42 2022 No.37791732

>>37791628
what else is better than science? religion? your own mind? some losers on 4chan? Science is literally designed to be the most impartial and objective perspective on any issue, and is definitely more impartial than you or anyone else in this thread.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:13:03 2022 No.37791739

>>37791475
> The difference is that the second one is most likely caused by readily understood mental issues that have many potential treatments while the first one is difficult to exactly identify or treat so the optimal answer is to simply go along with their belief.
Nope! There is no real treatment for people with BID. It is pretty rare and the causes are barely known though it appears to correlate with reduced grey matter in a certain part of the brain associated with the mind’s mental map of the body.
Those with Body Integrity Disorder (the Transabled) generally do have all their symptoms end ones the limb(s) in question have been amputated, and are happier afterward. Sometimes they even try to get in accidents to get them damaged so they can be removed, wrapping in dry ice to force amputation to be required is one well(ish) known method for example.
From the psychological view being argued in this thread it would be unethical to not turn the transabled into cripples just like it is unethical to not turn the transgendered into Eunachs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:13:07 2022 No.37791742 >>37791695 Empirical knowledge

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:13:44 2022 No.37791765 >>37791742 I said besides feelings

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:14:36 2022 No.37791799

>>37791732
>Science is literally designed
Science isn't designed, science just exists. Science is impartial, that's its strength. Its weakness is barely anything humans actually know can be proven and verified. Trying to apply science to things like psychology is just an abuse of science

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:15:32 2022 No.37791835

>>37791739
>From the psychological view being argued in this thread it would be unethical to not turn the transabled into cripples
if you claim they can't be fixed and they're gonna stop at nothing until they remove their limbs then why not let them? they're not gonna be useful to society no matter if they succeed or not, if that's true.
also: >>37791474

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:15:37 2022 No.37791839 >>37791765 Empirical knowledge isn't "feelings"

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:15:46 2022 No.37791843 the TROONS

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:16:16 2022 No.37791864 >>37791739 Huh, interesting, I guess the point was even more in our favor than I had previously believed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:16:43 2022 No.37791874 >>37791799 You have literally no idea what science is Science is a human invention, created and designed by humans to act as a tool from which to create as impartial knowledge as possible

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:17:19 2022 No.37791896 >>37791839 empirical knowledge is literally science, what are you talking about?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:18:15 2022 No.37791921 we should shoot all the trannies!

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:18:34 2022 No.37791931 >>37791799 maybe it would've been better to say the scientific community which is more accurate to what I meant and is unequivically designed by human minds.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:19:04 2022 No.37791949 >>37791839 It is Empirical knowledge is just another word for "what I feel is true after observing a limited perspective of something and making no attempt to correct for my personal biases and feelings"

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:19:29 2022 No.37791959 >>37791874 the way the universe defines how science works, it's hardly a human creation, science to aliens on another planet would be exactly the same

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:20:42 2022 No.37791997 >>37791949 Empirical knowledge is what can be known but not verified Feelings aren't knowledge Feelings and empirical knowledge can be intertwined but they aren't the same thing

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:21:05 2022 No.37792010 >>37778844 Congrats! You are gay now

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:21:08 2022 No.37792013 >>37791959 The universe doesn't define how science works Don't conflate science with what science aims to study

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:21:57 2022 No.37792037 Is Lily being trans a confirmed thing now? I don't mean like "If you listen to "HER" voice you can tell" or whatever, like a statement or doxx or something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:22:08 2022 No.37792039 File: 579 KB, 1095x1095, Artemis_of_the_Blue_Portrait.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Somebody called?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:22:28 2022 No.37792055 >>37792013 >The universe doesn't define how science works yes it does? its the study of everything around us. we sure as shit dont dictate science. just what we study

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:22:34 2022 No.37792057 >>37792013 the laws of the universe define how science works if we lived in a universe with no cause and effect, science wouldn't be the same

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:22:48 2022 No.37792067 >>37792037 Yes, it's been confirmed for a while, but who cares?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:23:31 2022 No.37792092 for real tho, we should gas all the troons like right now

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:23:37 2022 No.37792096 >>37780956 >Seems weird to me to care about something that has no effect on you NTA but see >>37782703.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:24:03 2022 No.37792106 >>37792067 It has? With what? I don't even watch her, I just don't know where the confirmation came from.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:24:07 2022 No.37792107 >>37791997 Not sure what other anons are saying, but empiricism is definitely not "feelings." It is, however, the fundamental root of the scientific method.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:24:32 2022 No.37792121 The real question is whether “she” passes or not. Transgenderism is unironically okay if you’re cuter as the opposite sex

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:24:33 2022 No.37792122

>>37791835
Sounds like you never even heard of the condition. It is Wikipedia but it does have some information and sourced to get you started.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_integrity_dysphoria
I think that catering to delusional whims of a sick mind is unethical personally and is likely to cause issues with finding better treatments of the underlying biological problems which are in the brain rather than the body. Deforming a body with scissors, saws and chemicals to suit the whims of someone literally not in their right mind is immoral. As the sexual saying goes, “Safe, Sane and Consensual” and trannies are not sane.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:26:09 2022 No.37792171 >>37791864 So you do approve of cutting off the arms and legs of people with BID to make them happy then? Be clear about your stance on this. Make sure you advertise it to your peers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:26:31 2022 No.37792181 >>37792055 It's how we study everything around us It's not everything around or, and it's not the knowledge we get from studying everything around us Science is a methodology >>37792057 That statement makes absolutely no sense

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:26:37 2022 No.37792183 >>37792122 There's just nothing you can do though, if you dont accept their belief they'll just do it themselves. The only potential alternative is to take away their autonomy which is never a good idea.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:26:45 2022 No.37792190

>>37792122
under that definition pretty much all plastic surgery is unethical. anyone who fixes their big ass nose or messes with their jawline is also deforming their body to find comfort in it due to dissatisfaction. a lot of those surgeries are also gender-reassuring on top of that. what's the difference? and like it was mentioned, trannies rarely even undergo surgery, most just take hormones.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:27:38 2022 No.37792216 >>37792171 Yes, if the alternative is them killing themselves trying to cut off their arms and legs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:27:51 2022 No.37792224 >>37792106 Nevermind, I went and searched the archives. Neat.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:28:09 2022 No.37792236 >>37792181 lmao you are getting confused

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:28:21 2022 No.37792247 >>37792181 the laws of the universe define the scientific method. It wasn't invented by humans, it was derived from the laws of the universe. There is nothing about the scientific process unique to humans

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:28:40 2022 No.37792252 >>37792236 You just don't know what science is

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:28:58 2022 No.37792259 unironically, where the jannies at?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:29:11 2022 No.37792264 >>37792121 nigger thats gay AF

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:29:23 2022 No.37792270 >>37792190 >what's the difference? removing limbs makes you disabled, getting a nosejob doesn't taking hormones is body modification, and can have negative consequences

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:29:56 2022 No.37792289 >>37792247 I feel like you're thinking of entropy or evolution. Science is literally a method of answering questions which was created under our understanding of logic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:30:12 2022 No.37792299 >>37792252 no you don't woman, and judging from the rest of your posts, you are not someone who studies in any scientific field lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:30:40 2022 No.37792309 >>37792289 >our understanding of logic. our understanding of logic is not subjective, it's objective, we didn't invent logic either

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:31:06 2022 No.37792323

>>37792270
dicks and tits are not limbs. removing them doesn't make you disabled either.
all drugs are body modification too. you're also under the assumption most trannies just take them indiscriminatedly, which obviously does happen but is rarely the case.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:31:06 2022 No.37792322 >>37792270 >taking hormones is body modification, and can have negative consequences so can a boobjob, those sacks can get infected and moldy. but hey, bigger tiddies

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:31:42 2022 No.37792339

>>37792247
Let me ask you a question then
If we make contact with another advanced civilization in the universe, you can guarantee 100% that their particle physicists also use the threshold of 6 sigma to denote statistical significance in their experiments?
If they don't, those aliens have different science than us

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:31:42 2022 No.37792340 >>37792309 science =/= logic though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:32:12 2022 No.37792356 >>37792322 which makes a boobjob ethically questionable too, but they're generally safe >>37792323 your penis is an organ, removing your penis has negative consequences

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:32:24 2022 No.37792360 >>37792340 my nigger in christ woman, yes it is

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:32:38 2022 No.37792365 >>37792259 they're probably having fun reading this thread. it's a rare case of actual back and forth debate instead of "tempiss cuck nijiseethe".

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:32:50 2022 No.37792370 >>37792360 It is not

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:33:03 2022 No.37792372 >>37792356 >removing your penis has negative consequences I think you should try it anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:33:13 2022 No.37792377 >>37792339 I don't know anything about particle physics, but that's not the scientific method

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:33:22 2022 No.37792384 Regardless of Lily's name seemingly having been Liliumpop at an earlier date, is there any evidence pointing to Lily ever being trans? In clips taken back when Lily was using the name Liliumpop, Lily was still referred to as being female.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:33:49 2022 No.37792390 >>37792370 and we wonder why women still cant break into STEM lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:33:57 2022 No.37792396 >>37792360 no??? Do you not know what science is? It is our application of logic to the solving of unanswered questions. One is derived from the other and is not an innate part of the universe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:34:12 2022 No.37792402 >>37780691 >her

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:34:14 2022 No.37792403 >>37792384 >is there any evidence pointing to Lily ever being trans? Do you have ears?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:34:18 2022 No.37792406 >>37792340 I mean... https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/logic If you have a different definition of what it is, feel free to state it and explain why it should be defined that way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:34:33 2022 No.37792411 >>37792377 That is science, it's the process

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:34:34 2022 No.37792414

>>37792356
a dick is still not a limb.
trannies don't remove their dicks themselves. as always I'm sure there must have been exceptions but the vast majority, as retarded as you may think they are, are not retarded enough to do that by themselves instead of going to a surgeon.
and once again, the vast majority of trannies don't even undergo surgery in the first place.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:34:42 2022 No.37792419

>>37792365
I am losing faith in humanity, anon. Not that I thought I'd find it on 4chan I suppose. I just want the vtuber board to be about vtubers and the anime people. We could all just sit and watch an anime dog girl speak in broken english and make funny noises.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:34:50 2022 No.37792424 >>37792190 >a lot of those surgeries are also gender-reassuring This is such a blatant psy-op by trannies to try to conflate something like hair implants with fucking inverting your dick.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:35:19 2022 No.37792434

>>37792190
Hormone replacement and puberty blockers have very negative effects on the body. Cancers, hair loss, misshapen growths, bone weakness, lung weakness, brain matter shrinkage, etc.
Ideologues push children to transition young and quickly, when the body is still not fully formed which doesn’t make them develop into the other sex, it twists them into something else entirely. Further horror is added when considering the children pressured to transitioning when they are not actually even trans, with the irreversible harm caused to their body.
But even if someone does nothing to their body physically and just decides to identify as the other sex then it is still wrong to demand that others enable them. It is unethical abuse of the sick and it is unethical censoring and control of others as well to enforce them to cater yo the obvious wrongness.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:35:42 2022 No.37792442 >>37792396 are you fucking ESL? you just proved my fucking point why are you arguing with me

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:36:06 2022 No.37792455 >>37792384 Yes, liliumpop saying that she's a passing trans woman

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:36:14 2022 No.37792461 >>37792411 yes, some random factoid about particle physics is not "science", science is the process of observing experiments to reach impartial conclusions this process will be the same on any planet

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:36:14 2022 No.37792460 >>37792406 anon doesn't understand the difference between the study of logic and logic itself. They're both called logic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:37:08 2022 No.37792487 >>37792390 I'm a physicist, and not a woman

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:37:15 2022 No.37792492 >>37792414 >a dick is still not a limb. so? removing it still has severe negative consequences

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:37:56 2022 No.37792516

>>37792216
A false dichotomy there though. Why are those the only options? Why can’t we research the brain itself to better identify and treat the sickness where it really is rather than just resigning ourselves to mutilating the parts that are healthy?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:37:57 2022 No.37792518 >>37792487 lmao could have fooled me. You don't sound like you are involved in that field at all

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:38:02 2022 No.37792522 >>37792442 Anon, something being an application of another thing does not in fact make it the same thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:38:19 2022 No.37792529 >>37792434 You don't have to take the estrogen if you don't want to, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:39:01 2022 No.37792561 >>37792522 moving goalposts I see

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:39:20 2022 No.37792572 >>37792518 NTA, but this isn't a physics discussion how would you have any indications?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:39:20 2022 No.37792571 >>37792516 Because it is assumed so, if there was an alternative that would be great, but as there is no workable alternative currently beyond forceful dehumanization of the subject this is the best we can hope for.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:39:39 2022 No.37792584

>>37792461
>science is the process of observing experiments to reach impartial conclusions
And that """factoid""" is part of that process
The fact that we based the process on logic doesn't mean we didn't invent it or that it's an intrinsic truth of the universe like abstract logic is

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:40:24 2022 No.37792606 >>37792434 you should get a hobby. hey have you heard of "virtual youtubers" ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:40:50 2022 No.37792618 File: 2.96 MB, 1100x618, CLEAN IT UP JANNY.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I will now nuke the thread. Trannies are better off dead, Jannies are faggots and women should not have rights

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:41:12 2022 No.37792630

>>37792323
> removing them doesn't make you disabled either.
It literally does. It is neutering them, literally. Their body is no longer able to properly do the things a normal healthy body could.
Not to mention the dilation. It is just an open wound in the groin and they need to spend 3+ hours every day for the rest of their lives jamming rods into the wound to prevent their body from healing it. Losing 1/8 of every day is a pretty big disability.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:41:18 2022 No.37792632

>>37792424
i don't care if dumb trannies use the gender-reassuring argument as psy-ops to make false equivalents, boobjobs are objectively gender-reassuring surgeries just as much as dick inverting surgeries. at most an anon has claimed a boobjob must be ethically questionable, which is at least consistent, but even then he claimed it's "better" when there's actually no difference.
>>37792434
i definitely agree that children should probably not be encouraged because children are very gullible and most of the time someone telling them there's nothing wrong with X thing it means they HAVE to do X thing. that said, the majority of trans people are adults who should be perfectly aware of what they're consuming; hormones are as much of a threat to your system as other drugs if you're not under the guidance of a doctor, but people still smoke and drink like idiots. that's on them.
>>37792492
according to whom? on the rare case a tranny decides to cut off their dick, the operation is much more likely to be a success and not have any negative consequences.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:42:15 2022 No.37792668

>>37792584
>And that """factoid""" is part of that process
No it isn't, that factoid is derived from the process
>The fact that we based the process on logic doesn't mean we didn't invent it
Depends how you want to use the term "invent", but there's really nothing about the scientific process that is that subjective, that's kind of the point. The scientific process is going to be the same anywhere because it's a basic derivation of the fundamental principles of the universe - the universe is consistent, cause and effect exists, therefore we can make statistical observations and predictions based off them

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:43:04 2022 No.37792690 >>37792630 genuinely curious, how does neutering impact someone on their daily life? it's obviously a fact that they're gonna have some sort of chemical unbalance, but to what degree?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:43:09 2022 No.37792695 >>37792618 kys

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:43:11 2022 No.37792697

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>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:43:14 2022 No.37792698 >>37792529 But if a girl wants to wear pants she needs to take testosterone and cut her tits off. Doesn’t matter if she’s only 14, she is clearly suffering from gender dysphoria! Chop Chop!

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:43:17 2022 No.37792702 >>37792632 >the operation is much more likely to be a success and not have any negative consequences. I suggest you do a small amount of research because even a "successful" operation still has severe negative consequences

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:44:34 2022 No.37792734 >>37792702 Such as?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:44:48 2022 No.37792742 KILL ALL TRANNIES YWNBAW

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:44:57 2022 No.37792748

Ngl the pro-tranny comments are way more convincing than the anti-tranny comments. I'm still on the fence about the issue, but it is funny seeing pro-tranny arguments bringing out psychology and science and the anti-tranny arguments bringing out dicks and nigger spam.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:45:07 2022 No.37792752 >>37792572 He felt the same way seeing those posts as when women reject him, so clearly the source of the posts is women

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:45:09 2022 No.37792753 >>37792734 Google it dude I'm not a tranny

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:45:49 2022 No.37792777 >>37792748 not much to comment. troons are ugly and should be killed on site

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:45:52 2022 No.37792778 >>37792698 Source: The voices

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:46:44 2022 No.37792808 >>37792748 Based fence sitter observing the argument unbiased before making his informed decision. You perhaps make this entire argument worthwhile.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:46:50 2022 No.37792812 >>37792748 nice samefag

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:47:28 2022 No.37792828 >>37792742 you will never smooch a vtuber

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:48:07 2022 No.37792846 >>37792828 but we should kill them all right?

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:48:09 2022 No.37792850

>>37792632
A boobjob on a woman, while unnecessary, is an attempt at furthering their body image in their sex. A man having boobs added to his chest is not, it is gender deforming rather than affirming.
A man cannot become a woman by cutting up his body. A woman cannot become a man by adding a flesh tube torn from their thigh to their groin.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:49:37 2022 No.37792894

>>37792808
I try my best. Ever since I read that one Nietzche book where he basically says, "everyone starts with an opinion then works backwards to form a logically coherent way to explain that opinion," I realized I basically just believed in things first and then justified things after, which is retarded.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:49:50 2022 No.37792906

>>37792753
I can't take your argument seriously then. I'm unexpectedly and genuinely learning a lot from this whole exchange on one of the shittiest corners of 4chan but that's because people are defending their claims with proper arguments.
>>37792748
I'm pro tranny simply because I've seen WAY more well adjusted trannies than all these "41% balding fat fucks who are drowning in hormones and bleeding out of their ex dick" trannies that anti-trannies claim they all are. That said, I objectively find them incredibly fucking ugly, dear lord. But I also find most weebs to be fucking ugly as well and I don't go around thinking they deserve death. I could do without either of them, but they objectively don't affect me nor anyone around them (most of the time) in any way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:49:57 2022 No.37792910 >>37792808 >>37792748 holy samefag, be a little less obvious

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:51:46 2022 No.37792959 >>37792906 curious where did you come from then? why are you here? you know this place and a lot of similar places are now very anti tranny

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:52:35 2022 No.37792982 >279 replies What the fuck is wrong with you all?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:52:52 2022 No.37793000 >>37792906 >I can't take your argument seriously then. You can't google something? Your capacity to experience sexual pleasure is severely diminished for one

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:52:53 2022 No.37793001 how is this thread still up lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:53:35 2022 No.37793016 >>37792982 tranny lovers vs rational people with no jannies in sight. truly a sight to be hold

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:54:55 2022 No.37793065

>>37792668
>No it isn't, that factoid is derived from the process
I think you didn't understand what the """ factoid""" is, it's not knowledge derived from studying physics, it's part of the process of studying physics
>the universe is consistent, cause and effect exists, therefore we can make statistical observations and predictions based off them
Yes, and HOW we make those observations and predictions, and qualify that data, is science
Science is not perfectly objective, it's a process by which we try to obtain as objective knowledge as we can
i.e., how do we observe whether a dice is loaded or not? A perfectly objective science would require to roll it infinite times, otherwise it wouldn't be objective
Our science has subjective thresholds saying how many rolls is enough to be sure enough
6 sigma is one of those thresholds

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:54:59 2022 No.37793067 >>37792906 >I'm pro tranny simply because I've seen WAY more well adjusted trannies clearly you haven't looked very far then lol

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:55:07 2022 No.37793072
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>>37792778
>Source: The voices
Whoa there, that is pretty schizophobic bro! You should enable mental illnesses by reassuring people that the voices they hear are real. It's real to them right so it is immoral not to enable it, no?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:56:23 2022 No.37793109 >>37793072 they all come to regret it sooner or later. its just a fact

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:56:37 2022 No.37793111 >>37793072 >You should enable mental illnesses by reassuring people that the voices they hear are real. If there's scientific studies that shows it's beneficial, then yes

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:57:33 2022 No.37793137 >>37793111 are you jewish mayhaps? just so I can know where you are coming from

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:58:09 2022 No.37793162

>>37792959
I've always been on this site. I just know it's not usually worth it to poke the bee's nest but sometimes the opportunity presents itself and I start debating people in a place where I'm clearly in the minority for fun. otherwise I just ignore it and play along.
>>37793000
I see. normally that probably wouldn't be a problem but I've read about how not being able to experience sexual pleasure can be extremely detrimental.
>>37793067
i can say the same thing to you.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:58:28 2022 No.37793171
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Remember, some trannies never cut off their penises so they're fine!
Yes they're lesbian and demand that lesbians have sex with them, what of it?
Nothing wrong with forcing transphobic lesbians to take lesbian tranny dick.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:58:40 2022 No.37793179 >>37793137 Good retort, I've been owned But no, I am not

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:58:46 2022 No.37793184 >>37793065 Yeah, the details can be different, the process itself is still ultimately the same thing I'm not sure what your point is

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 06:59:48 2022 No.37793197 >>37793162 >that probably wouldn't be a problem but I've read about how not being able to experience sexual pleasure can be extremely detrimental. Are you being retarded on purpose? You try living without sex and tell me how it goes

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:01:08 2022 No.37793231 >295 replies did lily fuck up or make an announcement on stream or something? please don't tell me this is just the same tranny shit from months ago

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:01:16 2022 No.37793236 >>37793171 gay

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:01:42 2022 No.37793252 >>37793197 I literally conceded what more do you want from me. let me rephrase then: "i thought it wouldn't be a problem but I remembered it actually is"

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:02:17 2022 No.37793274 >>37793231 it is and the trannies are still trying to convince people that they are normal

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:03:03 2022 No.37793292

>>37793111
>If there's scientific studies that shows it's beneficial
Empirical, replicable and falsifiable ones? Hard data with statistical significance on both benefits and negatives?
Because anything can have some benefit if you sell it right. Turning a child into a eunach can reduce hair loss! Cutting off breasts reduces breast cancer! Cutting off arms and legs is also a fantastically effective way of losing weight rapidly. Suicide causes an immediate cessation of all unhappy thoughts! Truly, these are all treatments with many benefits.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:03:21 2022 No.37793302 >>37793231 Yes sorry, she accidentally pressed the go live button on her keyboard while I was fucking her and she yelled "fuck my tranny ass" My bad

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:03:38 2022 No.37793310

>>37793252
You phrase it like you're an asexual or something who's never heard of or experienced sexual pleasure
Really, just imagine having your dick cut off and doctors giving you a fake vagina. It bleeds, it can rot, it's very painful, you have to dilate or whatever to keep it open because it's a wound that your body is trying to heal
It's fucking ridiculous to act like this is a surgery with no negative consequences

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:03:47 2022 No.37793315 >>37793302 you mean he

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:04:07 2022 No.37793324 >>37793274 listen man, I hate trannies and I like lily, that's why I wanted to know in the first place what would make anyone think lily is a man other than the pedophilic tendencies?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:05:38 2022 No.37793363 >>37793324 >what would make anyone think lily is a man he's using a voice changer

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:05:45 2022 No.37793366 >>37793184 The details are part of science The core of science being logically sound is not the same thing as science not being a human invention and it being an intrinsic part of the universe

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:06:21 2022 No.37793380 >>37793324 im a bit out of the loop, was it proven?

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:07:20 2022 No.37793405

>>37793310
what? are you suggesting the only ways to experience sexual pleasure is by having sex? do you know where the g-point is in male bodies?
the only compelling point there is maintaining the fake vagina (if they even get one) which can apply just as well to a fucking ear piercing, only in a harder area to maintain.
and that's IF a trans person cuts off their penis which rarely happens.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:07:41 2022 No.37793413 >>37793366 The more science becomes a "human invention" the less scientific it is Details that are subjective are not science, they are anti-science, they're just practically neccessary

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:07:42 2022 No.37793415 So has it been confirmed yet that Liliy is a tranny? P.S I knew he was a tranny from his earlier streams when he used to talk about his autistic hobbies that no woman would ever know about

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:07:53 2022 No.37793423 yall are fucking trannies in denial

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:07:53 2022 No.37793424 >>37793324 >what would make anyone think lily is a man other than the pedophilic tendencies? The fact that she said so herself in a CR forum post She said she's passing so she doesn't have to deal with transphobia

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:08:25 2022 No.37793434 >>37793415 It doesn't seem like there's any proof yet.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:08:40 2022 No.37793444

>>37793380
that's what I'm trying to figure out but since all he has is this stale rrat >>37793363 I think nothing new came out
also, she goes to her normal voice after a few hours because (surprise surprise) she doesn't actually sound like a 7yo in real life

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:09:18 2022 No.37793456

>>37793405
you experience sexual pleasure by touching your dick
when you get the operation you no longer have a dick, they attempt to use that tissue or whatever so you can still feel something but it's greatly diminished
comparing getting a fake vagina to an ear piercing is completely dishonest, you have a ridiculous bias

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:10:18 2022 No.37793485

>>37793444
>stale rrat
Do you have ears? Are you fucking serious? Are you from another planet and you are unaware of how normal humans sound? I knew this dude was a tranny like a year ago after listening to him for 5 seconds. Are you in denial or are you really this oblivious?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:11:13 2022 No.37793516 >>37793423 >reppers lashing out at trannies who have what they want >shitposters stoking the fire further You love to see it

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:12:07 2022 No.37793541 >>37793456 so you don't know where the g-point is. how do you think gay sex works for the one receiving the dicking? yes, removing your dick makes it harder to cum, but not impossible. it just adds extra steps.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:12:24 2022 No.37793553 >>37793516 so easy to piss on pro trannies and send them into this spiral of pseudo science discussion lmao. such a mass amount of cope

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:12:32 2022 No.37793555 >>37793485 even if she is using a voice mod that doesn't make her a tranny she obviously modulates her voice (be it by machine or by just doing another voice) to sound more like a child and I think that's both cute and hot

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:12:35 2022 No.37793559 >>37793292 do you still eat at McDonald's even though it might make you a little chubby, and possibly increase your risk of fat people diseases?

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:13:18 2022 No.37793573

>>37793413
Science is that flawed by necessity process that approximates objectivity, not some ideal
That's the whole point of science, to be a process to refine flawed human knowledge acquisition as best as we can
You're approaching it from the wrong end

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:13:18 2022 No.37793574

Probably the most interesting thread I've read in a while on /vt/.
I agree with this anon
>>37793292
That gender transition surgery can absolutely fuck you up beyond belief and that there do exist some serious negatives that make me question whether the procedure should be openly available to everyone
But I also agree with this anon
>>37791739
That if there is literally no better way of treating someone for the illness, and that the treatment "works" in the sense that there are less suicides post transition and that individuals are more likely to commit suicide without the treatment, then it should be administered under the right circumstances
Not sure what to do with this information
Guess I'll jerk off and go to bed

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:13:28 2022 No.37793577 >>37793541 I'm not gay so I don't know how sticking things up your ass compares to having a dick. So you're telling me getting sodomized feels so good for men it's no big loss if you don't have a penis anymore?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:13:33 2022 No.37793584 >>37793553 >GOD I FUCKING HATE TRANNIES FUCK FUCK KILL THEM ALL >no YOU'RE MAD NOT ME rumao

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:13:43 2022 No.37793589
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>>37793405
>what? are you suggesting the only ways to experience sexual pleasure is by having sex? do you know where the g-point is in male bodies?
The "g-point" of the prostate and the vagina are not even remotely similar. The g-point of the vagina is where nerves are linked to the clitoris, the prostate is something completely different.
And did you know that you need testes to have a healthy prostate? It's true. Studies of them in eunachs do not look promising for what you are hoping for regarding these modern day eunachs
https://www.usrf.org/news/010308-prostate_eunuchs.html
>the only compelling point there is maintaining the fake vagina (if they even get one) which can apply just as well to a fucking ear piercing, only in a harder area to maintain.
That is absolutely a false comparison, there is no way you are honestly making it in good faith. Seriously, have you seen what dilation entails?
>and that's IF a trans person cuts off their penis which rarely happens.
But you are encouraging it to happen more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:14:18 2022 No.37793606 >>37793584 so easy

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:14:50 2022 No.37793617 >>37793573 >as best as we can yes, as best we can, which often isn't very good at all, like for studying psychology

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:14:58 2022 No.37793622

>>37793292
You may want to try focusing on the positives - I know this may be a hard concept for an avg 4chan user. I feel you brother. But discrediting everything because it is not a perfect solution in every single case ever is not going to get anyone anywhere.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:15:30 2022 No.37793634 why the fuck yall talkin bout g spots. nigga we talkin bout vtuber rrats

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:15:51 2022 No.37793647

>>37793434
>>37793444
Ignore the retards that talk about her voice or voice changers, it's probably her mods trying to make people dismiss the fact by pretending to be retarded.
Look up the archives, no new info came out but there's actual proof that was buried by the voice changer false flag.
It resurfaced in an /uoh/ thread recently.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:16:30 2022 No.37793668 >>37793647 I am not "her" mod, I am a person with ears You are deep in denial or deaf

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:16:45 2022 No.37793675 >>37793577 Your g-spot in your ass. Das the good spot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:16:49 2022 No.37793676 Nice going, mods, keep it classy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:16:54 2022 No.37793681 >>37793584 maybe stop biting bait?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:17:48 2022 No.37793707 I like the funny lil frog tuber

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:17:58 2022 No.37793711 >>37793617 Correct, but it's still much better than without science even in psychology

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:18:58 2022 No.37793740 >>37793711 Science has really done fuck-all for psychology, even set it back in many cases because people abuse the authority of science to try and push an agenda It's not a scientific field

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:19:01 2022 No.37793742 >>37793707 I too love Frogiara.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:19:13 2022 No.37793746 >>37793668 Give it up Gutsy, the proof that she's trans already came out.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:19:24 2022 No.37793751

>>37793622
Doing permanent damage to a part of the body that isn't sick to attempt to fulfill the hallucinations and delusions of a part that is sick is more negative than positive. But it doesn't stop there, you also demand that everyone else pander and enable their delusions as well. Yes this is a "girl's penis" and she's a lesbian so if you don't have sex with the hairy bearded "lesbian" then you aren't a real lesbian!
Yes, this 6'4" goliath with broad shoulders and beard and penis is a woman, she must be allowed to play in women's sports.
Yes you must call this fat bearded, chisel jawed hunkback a woman and if you don't you will literally go to jail.
The Emperor has no clothes!

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:20:09 2022 No.37793770 >>37793746 I don't care if it considers itself trans or not, it's a biological male using a voice changer and I'm absolutely baffled people didn't notice this

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:20:56 2022 No.37793793 >>37793675 No you retard, it doesn't work that way. By that logic your "g-spot" is in your brain, as direct electrical stimulation of certain portions of the brain gives incredibly powerful, constant orgasms. Prostate and Penis cannot compare.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:20:56 2022 No.37793794 >>37793751 You seem very triggered by other people's bodies. Have you thought about seeing a therapist? There's probably a term for it and maybe they can help you work through it. Maybe even get you some yummy feel good meds.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:21:27 2022 No.37793817 >>37793589 well. nothing to add. i was clearly wrong on this side of the argument. my last cope will be that i never will encourage it (and in fact most trannies don't either).

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:21:37 2022 No.37793821 >>37793770 People can search the archives and see the proof, acting retarded won't stop it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:21:54 2022 No.37793829 >>37793821 proof of what?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:23:03 2022 No.37793867 Wait, so what is it, a tranny or a dude with a voice changer? I remember reading their Twitch page that they don't use a voice changer .

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:23:08 2022 No.37793870 >>37793829 That Lily is a MTF tranny.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:23:12 2022 No.37793872 actually where the fuck are the mods, this thread is barely vtuber related. tranny niggas fuck off back to pol

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:23:27 2022 No.37793879 I think, therefore I am. I frog, therefore I frog.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:23:51 2022 No.37793889 >>37793879 Rekneel Desharts

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:23:55 2022 No.37793893 >>37793793 Maybe your prostate isn't as sensitive, bummer you tried it and it wasn't as good. At least you tried!

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:24:12 2022 No.37793902 >>37793867 >I remember reading their Twitch page that they don't use a voice changer . you can hear it clear as day

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:25:02 2022 No.37793924 >>37793867 She's trans, she's said it herself. The anon claiming it's a voice changer is trying to convince people she's a biological girl by pretending to be retarded while arguing the opposite, discrediting the actual proof of her saying it herself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:25:13 2022 No.37793935 >>37793893 hows yours? thinking of cutting off your dick anytime soon?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:25:16 2022 No.37793936 >>37793794 Come on now anon, you can do better than that. I can see you're frustrated but sarcasm and namecalling are not a good way to hold a discussion. Do you actually have any proper response? If not that is fine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:27:17 2022 No.37793997 >>37793794 mindbroken lmao

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:28:21 2022 No.37794029

>>37790738
Homosexuality is a product of evolution, in many species. Given its wide spread in surviving species despite the fact that homosexuals rarely reproduce themselves, there's likely some evolutionary reason it exists.
Further judgment (both in support and in opposition) is born from subjective opinions on morality or psychology. That said, it might well be treatable in the future.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:29:17 2022 No.37794057 >>37793924 I'm usually pretty good with recognizing trans voices, Lily does not sound like one, this whole thread is discussing mental illness while there's no proofs being posted

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:30:06 2022 No.37794077 >>37794057 >whole thread its 2 schizos

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:30:41 2022 No.37794094

>>37794029
nonsense, a dog will hump your leg, that doesn't make a dog "leg-sexual". Males will just hump everything within a 5 meter radius. It's not "a product of evolution in many species" I don't know where you're getting that nonsense. It's just sickos with sick fetishes and maladapted brains passing on abuse

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:30:47 2022 No.37794099 >>37793936 I didn't call you any names, brother. You just wrote mucho texto yet again and are sperging out a lot. Worried about you. I don't think I am the one with the response you're looking for, I'm not the physicist anon that was arguing earlier.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:31:38 2022 No.37794125 >>37794099 mindbroken woman

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:31:46 2022 No.37794132 >>37794057 I don't want a vacation. Look up the archives, /uoh/ had a thread recently where someone explained how to find the proof.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:32:37 2022 No.37794156 >>37793746 >she

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:32:39 2022 No.37794161 ywnbaw

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:33:33 2022 No.37794186

>>37794132
i see, it's one of those "proofs" that requires you to use a time machine to go back to their 2007 twitter page where they posted "i like footbal xD" and you have to spin it around 20 times to get trans narrative, glad this all is a nothingburger

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:33:42 2022 No.37794190

>>37794029
>Homosexuality is a product of evolution, in many species
Never said it wasn't. So are Sickle Cell Anemia and Cystic Fibrosis, both recessive allele linked traits have some very beneficial side effects. That doesn't mean that they should be retained.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:33:47 2022 No.37794191

>>37783549
That's not how medical studies measure effectiveness.
But it is fair to say that social constructs rely on widespread belief. Like money, or ethnicity. Italians used to be considered non-white in the US, but that changed without any biological reason.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:33:50 2022 No.37794194 >>37794125 I will never be a woman, anon. I don't want to be or plan to.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:33:58 2022 No.37794201 >>37793746 >she

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:35:39 2022 No.37794252 >>37794186 If by "i like footbal xD" you mean "I'm glad I don't have to deal with transphobes because I'm passing irl", then yes, big ol' nothingburger.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:35:40 2022 No.37794254 >>37794194 could have fooled me

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:37:13 2022 No.37794290 375 posts and counting

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:39:16 2022 No.37794341 >>37794099 This is 4chan. If you think arguing about this stuff here on the Virtual YouTuber board will get you anywhere then you are as retarded as the rest of us.

Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:39:21 2022 No.37794343

>>37794099
You are clearly ignorant. Namecalling in the sense that you make direct (though passive and sarcastic) attacks against the speaker rather than actually addressing anything that was actually said. You just said "lol ur crazy" in more words to attempt and air of detachment rather than actually engage the topic itself.
I refer to it as Namecalling, not Ad Hominem, as Ad Hominem generally requires an attack against actual attributes of the opponent unrelated to the actual point they are making in an attempt to discredit that point while namecalling does not and can be anything. For example, I could say that you enjoy eating feces. Nothing you have said indicates that and even if it did it would have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Saying you eat shit alone doesn't even go the extra step of addressing any argument you are making, it just is a pointless attack.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:40:56 2022 No.37794381 WHY IS THIS SHIT STILL UP

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:42:29 2022 No.37794417 (((experts say))) cut your penis off!

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:47:59 2022 No.37794568 ah the jews are all gone...

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:53:38 2022 No.37794714 trannies will never be accepted

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 07:59:19 2022 No.37794901 /pol/ wins again

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 08:06:37 2022 No.37795112 bomp

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 26 08:22:04 2022 No.37795525 guess all the troons died

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