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Hololive sites

Nijisanji sites


Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.37575137

If by homo you mean homostars then it's not fucking fake or management mandated because she does it with literally fucking everyone who plays valo including JPs(female)

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>88,503: Korone (Hololive)
>41,528: Fubuki (Hololive)
>35,438: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>34,299: Shigure Ui (Indie)
>20,116: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>18,493: Subaru (Hololive)
>16,353: Patra (774 inc)
>15,281: Lize (Nijisanji)
>14,222: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>13,528: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,209: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,366: Reid (Neo Porte)
>10,621: Iroha (Hololive)
>10,612: Yugo (Nijisanji)
>10,590: Yashiro (Nijisanji)

>> No.37575182

Just noticed, did Matsuri's number go down to normal after Rust died?

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my cute wife

>> No.37575186

It could be mandated and she accepted it just fine especially because most of them are Valo collab, but it did get tiring that I couldn't help but giving in to that feeling.

>> No.37575190

Hello, I'm a completely normal human being, some of my pastimes include spending days pretending to be the fan of a streamer i hate just to get attention for it, like a normal person with a good brain would.

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1) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,480 - Minecraft sports fes prep
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 53,106 - Resident Evil 6 w/Marine
3) Marine (Hololive) - 167,199 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
4) Suisei (Hololive) - 156,380* - 3D announcement live
5) Suisei (Hololive) - 39,554 - Zatsudan
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 134,642 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
7) Mio (Hololive) - 59,265 - Post sports fes totsumachi
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 67,639 - Trial stream
9) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 44,737 - Yu-Gi-Oh lesson w/Orihimeboshi
10) Miko (Hololive) - 43,789 - Surgeon Simulator 2 w/Suisei
11) Flare (Hololive) - 39,662 - Shiraken accessory reveal & presentation meeting
12) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,770 - Fate/Grand Order
13) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 41,078 - Fashion collab shilling w/Shiina, Ririmu & Fuwa
14) Lamy (Hololive) - 60,779 - NePoLaBo offcollab
15) Lamy (Hololive) - 87,608 - 3D birthday drinking party
16) Subaru (Hololive) - 53,405 - MioMikoSuba consultation office
17) Subaru (Hololive) - 47,065 - Sleepover w/Noel
18) Koyori (Hololive) - 41,567* - Mario Party w/Chloe, Marine & Korone
19) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 55,196 - Yu-Gi-Oh Master Duel tournament day 1
20) Subaru (Hololive) - 110,897 - 4th anniversary 3D live
21) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53,522 - Pokemon Scarlet w/QED
22) Korone (Hololive) - 88,503 - 3D birthday live

18x: Hololive
4x: Nijisanji

5x: Pekora
3x: Subaru
2x: Kuzuha, Lamy, Suisei
1x: Flare, Korone, Koyori, Marine, Miko, Mio, Nijisanji, Yashiro

>2022 GOLDS
212x: Hololive
100x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

50x: Pekora
21x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
17x: Aqua
16x: Salome, Subaru
15x: Nijisanji
10x: Marine
7x: Suisei
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata, Mio, Toya
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura
4x: Korone, Koyori, Noel, Okayu, Polka, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Fubuki, Ibrahim, Lamy, Lui, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta

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>> No.37575251

Your post probably took more effort than anything the troll posted bruh. Just ignore that shit. Don't let posts online affect your mental.

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>> No.37575281

I hate Korone so much it's unreal

>> No.37575310

the rrats are winning.

>> No.37575312

huh, it took me 10 seconds, not a month of my life like them

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>Not like they reclined too much compare the rest of EN/ID.
Yes they did.
Kobo in particular, she's at the lowest point in her career, below even the end of her debut buff, before having the "my account got deleted" buff.

>> No.37575329

I don't want to see any posts about Fauna or Bae this thread. Ok /#/? Think you can do it?

>> No.37575332

What does the * mean

>> No.37575335

Why are there people acting like the Pandemic is the only thing that helps with Western vtubing? They had a foothold now there are definitely ways to make vtubing big again. Just that there are no SSR pull on talents from any company so far.

Remember, tablet was not a thing before iPad, and iPad came to fame due to a lot of marketing effort and charisma from a douche rather than it being a natural process.

>> No.37575352

but i miss fauna

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I can't. Fauna is too cute.

>> No.37575359

rent free

>> No.37575371

It looks like she's a bit better off than last year, but yea her numbers normalized after rust hyper-buffed her.

>> No.37575387

Remember: it's not a waste of time if you enjoy doing it

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>> No.37575406

>rent free says man after spending 8 hours in the numbers thread replying cope and seethe to every post that calls him a loser, for his 30th week in a row

>> No.37575409

so how many hours has the sub feed been broken for now?

>> No.37575411

means the recorded peak was from a z

>> No.37575413

Don't worry ID is different, they don't care about male collabs!

>> No.37575414

You care way too much, reddit mod vibes fer sure

>> No.37575422

En3 today

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Say hello to the saviour of vtubing

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>> No.37575451

like almost a day now, pretty sure it was broken by the time the morning jp streams were happening

>> No.37575459

Dummies somehow thinking all the viewers Kobo and Gen 3 were getting were somehow the same as the previous Gens instead of newbies

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Hi /#/’s. Help settle a numbers related debate if you would:

Rank these from who you would most want to be -to- least want to be (they all started at the exact same time)
>A. Girl who streams 30 hours a week, has 65k subs, 400ccv, and $31k in donos
>B. Girl who streams 10 hours a week, has 45k subs, 150ccv, and $30k in donos
>C. Girl who streams 20 hours a week, has 40k subs, 200 ccv, and $14k in donos

>> No.37575474

hey, can you stop replying to my post, why do you care so much

>> No.37575479

En has nothing going on that is making people hype like jp and with the constant breaks from gura is not helping.

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>> No.37575500

B > A > C

Work smarter not harder

>> No.37575504

I would like to be B, hence I think I have similar personality with La+.

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Here is Kaela, for contrast. She had a very good summer with Minecraft and Rust, but all good things come to an end and she's returning to the mean, sitting right now at her EXACT midpoint a little over 3000

>> No.37575509

I've never really gotten this argument. It's not as though any of the IDs ever really even tried to go the unicorn route so how could we know for sure?

>> No.37575529

a, 30 hours is easy

>> No.37575537

Vtubers are just waiting for some game to come along that's popular and good to stream.
Unfortunately, they are all bad at games and have very narrow tastes, and often won't stream a game if they actually like it, so it's pretty much not ever going to happen.

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>> No.37575553

No one is safe from corn #grimmie

>> No.37575564

Without merch and sponsorship numbers this is useless as these three likely can get 40k on a single sponsorship running 2 or 3 streams

>> No.37575565

What happened unibros, Kaela avoided the homos but she still reclined??

>> No.37575567

Wait for that new schizo who ritual posts about Bae again

>> No.37575573

I'm concerned because it feels like you're terminally online. I'll stop replying from here but just take care of yourself.

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>> No.37575583

Her recline happened after she had the homos on her birthday stream

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>> No.37575602

Western women don't really play games. They are either part thots or tradwives, nothing in the middle.

>> No.37575609

She didn't avoid them?
You could say the same for traditional streamers

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>> No.37575620

Probably A, but B has huge potential if they streamed more

>> No.37575639

People thought they already lost so they left early.

>> No.37575640

>I'm concerned
why do you care, smells like a reddit mod

>> No.37575642

Her fans, which are mostly Indonesians, seemingly okay with it when male in questions weren't just some Japanese or North American randos, while her fans speak neither of their those languages. Like a warkop anon I mentioned in last thread, he wished she collabs more with ID senpais/other ID content creators.
Although the magic is now gone and too late to get back to her glory, I would still like to see how the DotA 2 collab would do.

>> No.37575648

as soon as they appeared on her birthday, the number starts declining though?

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>> No.37575726

post tits or gtfo

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>> No.37575755

i jwu, did the sub box bug fuck numbers up overnight? how did the doggy god do?

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>> No.37575800

You say that but her first male id collab got 32k or something stupid like that but her other collabs with him was disappointing. Her decline also got worst afterward as well, so more like id unicorns are a silent majority.

>> No.37575805

cover should had gone to ID stars right after ID3.

>> No.37575816

Traditional streamers include a lot more pro gamers and tournament goers, people who will grind a game all day every day, who are often responsible for making a game popular. They will post game guides on Youtube, or analyze new patches, so on.
Basically, you've got some real autists among traditional streamers who can squeeze a game hard for content, whereas vtubers right now are all on the extreme casual side.

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>> No.37575821

>why do you care so much
>im concerned
>i'll stop replying
>keeps replying
no wonder you're defending schizos

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And here is Zeta. She never actually manage to get buffed after losing her debut buff, sank straight into the 2.5k range and never really inclined from it.

>> No.37575844

post tits or gtfo

>> No.37575849

She is actually quite good at GFE as notMatsuri. I think Matsuri is just her way to let people see the other side of her and she doesn't care about numbers.

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>> No.37575871

What is even the appeal of Zeta? She just seems very bland to me

>> No.37575872

B has the most potential. Whomever B is needs to get up to 20 hours a week and watch herself incline. She is leaving a lot of money on the table

>> No.37575877

You want 2 views stars? They saw nijiid and went nope.

>> No.37575886

traditional streamers are reclining too but because they don't have to deal with permissions they can jump around from games more or use youtube/reddit/tik tok as a crutch

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>> No.37575904

she is Axel's girlfriend and.... uh...

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>> No.37575938

Zeta is extremely solid and consistent as her graph shows after her debut buff wore out.

>> No.37575942

The thing with Kobo is that she was supposed to be THEIR (Indonesian) streamer but she keeps doing English and Japanese collabs. They don’t care if she collabs with guys.

>> No.37575947

traditional streamers also have the gigabuff version of the handcam in the IRL streams

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>>37575323 :: Kobo (reclining, lowest point on record)
>>37575508 :: Kaela (stable on a midpoint)
>>37575824 :: Zeta (stable on a low point)

>> No.37575957

Tempiss cocksleeve

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>> No.37575985

Like Ame and Bae, she's stable on a low point. Given that HoloID had their BIGGEST growth arc in that period, that doesn't bode well for her

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>> No.37575993

Watching Korone's BDay Live now since it was on at bumfuck o'clock in the morning for me.
>She started with Space Runaway Ideon theme
This fucking boomer bitch.

>> No.37575995

ID3 average CCV last 3 months

Month: Aug > Sep > Oct
>Kobo: 8410 > 7476 > 5471
>Zeta: 3553 > 2437 < 2479
>Kaela: 5112 > 3536 > 3159

>> No.37576024

That is because they are on twitch and their parent company is not in Japan.

Actually for example hearthstone, which is a genre that I still follows, recline a lot since its inception. It bounced back a little with battleground, but not it is on recline again.
Dota and LoL are similar to hearthstone too, and even just chatting reclined. This definitely can be attributed to the end of Pandemic but also due to no new entertaining streamer since PewDiePie.

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>> No.37576037

voice and she streams

>> No.37576057

En wouldn't have recline so much if they had outfits, 3d lives, and events. You know things hololive fans want. Instead of any of that we get starsen, no hype, drama, and half the talents being hostile toward fans.

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>> No.37576086

Zeta is stable at her midpoint as that's close to her current spot than the low point (which is 2400)

>> No.37576089

She has a nice voice, she’s stupid and she acts cute

>> No.37576107

Thing is, they don't actually jump around games much, so permissions aren't that big of a deal. A huge portion of streamers just focus on one game, and their audience will just be fans of that game.

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>> No.37576129

the fact that ina will graduate in her third year without a 3D debut proper or 3D anniversary/BD should be telling of the EN situation.

>> No.37576169

Back in the days the heavy hitters like Aqua and Pekora didn't have a lot of 3D and Pekora barely have any new outfit even today. They inclined by their sheer charisma.

Until EN can get 40k ccv eating burgers (with or without handcam) while promoting a fast food franchise I would say the decline are ENs' own fault.

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>> No.37576191

>and their parent company is not in Japan.
The problem is not their parent company being Japanese or not. The problem is
>having a parent company at all
There are lots of affordances granted by companies to indies that won't extend to corporate professionals.

Even with regards to Cover themselves: "hobbyists" like kay Yu can freely make something like Holocure using COVER assets and IP but (let's say) Sega would never be able to do that without explicit permission from COVER.

Most companies have a blanket permission for "not for profit / not professional" use of their IP that they don't extend to corporations, be it in the west or in Japan

>> No.37576201

I'd say it's more that she has a nice voice, she's cute and she acts stupid.

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>> No.37576220

She's ID first and foremost. Put a Kaela, a stream-hour monster in EN and she'll even top Fauna.

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>> No.37576266

They do need a good hype person for promotion as other then taco bell gura shilling is painful.

>> No.37576268

A good amount stick to one game but the 20k-15k range is full of variety streamers. Jumping around is very much the meta for most popular streamers

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>> No.37576320

>That is because they are on twitch and their parent company is not in Japan.
Yeah obviously but that's not what the discussion was about. Someone said traditional streamers are stuck waiting for good games too but imo their situation isn't as bad as vtubers because they can rely on other things

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>> No.37576345

I don't know why this is hard for people to understand, you can say "oh they didn't stream as much" but hype events like 3Ds, outfits and debuts are the standard for keeping the tourists hooked and turning them into regulars. Like patches and expansions in games, these things cement the regulars while being entry points for new fans

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>> No.37576400

Korone's pokemon frame is up and an hour later is Koyori along with Kronii.

Even JPs are taking weekday EN timeslots besides the weekends. Also surprising (or not) that EN aren't taking advantage of the impropted collab nature of the pokemon game. Iroha just casually dropped on Fubuki's stream to play for a while with her.

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>> No.37576432

Vtuber can rely on more kayfabe than meatbags but ENs seems to dislike that. Kiara who did everything right has negative charisma.

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>> No.37576478

Hearthstone lost a lot of streamers. Kolento, Forsen, Lifecoach, Reynad all quit, and more that I forgot. Kripp only streams the battlegrounds version. Zalae was inclining heavily until he got thot patrolled. Hafu got married and now only her husband streams the game. Even familiar faces among the devs like Ben Brode left.
The streamer tournament scene completely dried up, not really from lack of interest but from the streamers all getting tired of the game and departing.

>> No.37576500

>but hype events like 3Ds, outfits and debuts are the standard for keeping the tourists hooked and turning them into regulars.
I terribly disagree. Every single time people ask
>what was the moment that got in into "the rabbit hole"
the most common answers are the most mundane events: Miko nigger, Pekora throwing sword into lava, Korone Eekum Bokum, Azur lane collab, Trash Taste Mori appearance and so on.

I genuinely never ever EVER saw anyone answering
>it was the 3D debut / 3D live / new outfit from such and such that got me curious about it.

>> No.37576525

it's a holiday in jp, labour thanksgiving or something like that

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>> No.37576571

>They inclined by their sheer charisma.

>> No.37576574

Gyaruramy i kneel

>> No.37576578

I don't think the EN audience wants obvious kayfabe

>> No.37576586

No, he is right. What you said helps people discover the so-called "rabbit hole", but big events is what keep them interested and watching

>> No.37576595

>EN timeslots
No such thing and there is a reason they call "that" slot

One of the strongest slots ever in Hololive history was Coco's Asacoco slot, which was 6:00 AM JST / 5PM EDT.
These things are mostly "use it or lose it", Ina would never suffer from overlaps from JP but the current EN girls might because they don't really "own" a slot, they just pop into it whenever

>> No.37576596

where can i look at bilibili donations? darkflame is down

>> No.37576607
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>> No.37576616

All the things they discover after is what keeps them hooked

>> No.37576627

Why do people say nips are overworked to death when they have paid day offs like 6 days a month for the most random shit?

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>> No.37576633

Imo stuff like 3d debuts and outfits are more for hooking in old fans.
I do think stuff like holofes which has wider appeal can bring in new fans though. Watching the pirated Holofes stream here was my introduction to Myth.

>> No.37576674

>big events is what keep them interested and watching
That's exactly what I am disagreeing with. This never gets mentioned as a factor, ever.
>Wow, I was ambivalent about Hololive but then I saw the 3D debut of X / new outfit of X and got hooked.

I give you new debuts tho. That is a HUGE draw for a new audience that not necessarily wants to "get into the cinema room in the middle of a movie" but will start one from the start

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>> No.37576726

So who wins.
Bae in a brand new game, Kronii in Pokemon #1, or Fauna on Minecraft. They'll all eventually overlap each other since they're all 1 hour apart

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>> No.37576736

that's just for national holidays, there's like 1 per month, some get 2

>> No.37576746

Gura with a Twitter Space

>> No.37576749

Wait what? I know Forsen abandon the sinking ship quite early, Reynad has his tempostorm business so whatever. How would Kolento and Lifecoach survive without hearthstone?
Tbqh hearthstone is really boring now even shadowverse feels like a better game than hearthstone.

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ina streams a lot

>> No.37576770

>the most common answers are the most mundane events: Miko nigger, Pekora throwing sword into lava, Korone Eekum Bokum, Azur lane collab, Trash Taste Mori appearance and so on.
Yes those introduce them to hololive but these big event don't keep them in hololive.

>> No.37576775

Well, the enfranchised audience will point to Lives as a factor of holding their attention, but the truth is that we just don't have enough people in HoloEN right now. 10 people just isn't enough for full coverage without massive burnout.

>> No.37576776

bae 6k fauna 9k kronii 9k

>> No.37576777

are takos okay

>> No.37576778

Fauna, maybe Kronii could have won if she had at least 1 hour uncontested

>> No.37576781

I have to wonder if it's got something to do with her almost letting something slip.
Zeta's the that's hard to imagine what she even does if not GFE.

>> No.37576790

EN audiences want drama judging from xqc fans.

>> No.37576813

Bae 6-9 k
Kronii 4-7 k
Fauna 10-11k

>> No.37576814

I got into Hololive initially because of
>Miko nigger, Pekora throwing sword into lava, Korone Eekum Bokum

but fell off over time. I recently got back in because of that weekend with Marine's birthday and Miko's 4th anniversary lives

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>> No.37576860

And yet her subscriber growth has accelerated for some reason.

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>> No.37576902

Your last point is real. I recently switched oshi and it's so hard to get up to speed with all the shared knowledge that the fanbase has

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>> No.37576914

First 2view branch in Holopro

>> No.37576921

They must be pushing it out piecemeal, because I'm still stuck with the bug.

>> No.37576947

Yeah, but that has pretty much played out. They're not going to tap into a new audience with a funny clip or collab.
Hololive had a big advantage when they were just unknown cute anime girls, but now they have a lot of people shitting on them out of fear since they've gotten too popular, and everyone has already heard about them.

>> No.37576953

Did you actually send a "This shit isn't working" feedback message?

>> No.37576972

Bae 7k
Kronii 9k
Fauna 9k
Looks like the streams to beat on the NijiEN side are VOX horror with asmr mic and Nina birthday

>> No.37576977

I tweeted at them, is there some more officila way to do it?

>> No.37576983

i wish every girl in hololive a good incline

>> No.37576994

>7 hours in
It is over for Haachama.

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Here it goes

9,910: Yugo (Nijisanji)
8,146: Vox (Nijisanji)
7,446: Fauna (Hololive)
5,920: Mori (Hololive)
5,368: Ike (Nijisanji)

1. Gura (Hololive) - 14,785 (Faith)
2. Axel (Hololive) - 9,290 (Birthday Celebration and Call-ins)
3. Gura (Hololive) - 16,738 (Resident Evil Village: Shadows of Rose)
4. Kronii (Hololive) - 10,369 (Resident Evil Village)
5. Luca (Nijisanji) - 13,459 (The Backrooms w/Shu)
6. Kronii (Hololive) - 16,500 (Unarchived Karaoke)
7. Mumei (Hololive) - 7,952 (Resident Evil 7)
8. Baelz (Hololive) - 7,412 (Trombone Champ)
9. Yugo (Nijisanji) - 20,845 (The Telephone bullshit again...DO SOMETHING ELSE)
10. Ren (Nijisanji) - 12,072 (Karaoke Rebroadcast)
11. Magni (Hololive) - 8,513 (Unarchived Karaoke w/Noir)
12. Gura (Hololive) - 14,682 (Katamari Damacy Reroll)
13. Luca (Nijisanji) - 18,856 (It Takes Two)
14. Fauna (Hololive) - 10,728 (Bioshock)
15. Gura (Hololive) - 19,121 (Sonic Frontiers)
16. Kiara (Hololive) - 8,014 (Unarchived Karaoke)
17. Gura (Hololive) - 15,655 (Scuffed Stream)
18. Kiara (Hololive) - 23,320 (Holotalk w/Pekora)
19. Luca (Nijisanji) - 12,007 (Just Dance)
20. Fungus (Nijisanji) - 22,778 (Unarchived Karaoke)
21. Mori (Hololive) - 10,535 (Karaoke)
22. Yugo (Nijisanji) - 9,910 (Karaoke)

Hololive - 15
Nijisanji - 7
Others - 0

5x: Gura
3x: Luca
2x: Kronii, Kiara, Yugo
1x: Axel, Mumei, Baelz, Ren, Magni, Fauna, Fungus, Mori

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
25p: Gura
23p: Mumei
19p: Luca
18p: Fauna
15p: Kronii
13p: Yugo
11p: Kiara
10p: Shu
8p: Baelz
7p: Vox
6p: Amelia
5p: Axel, Ren, Magni, Fungus, Mori
3p: Reimu, Selen, Enna, Ike, Kyo
1p: Noir, Rosemi, Regis

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Also maybe try ctrl f5?

>> No.37577021

Idk why people shit on council for having bad numbers. I mean this is 2022, not 2020 anymore. Vtubing is dead. The hype is dead. Fuck all haters.

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>And yet her subscriber growth has accelerated for some reason.
She didn't tho? She "downshifted gears" before September and is on a constant pace since then

>> No.37577049

>Bae in a brand new game
Why would you assume this a good thing
>Persona 5 Royal

>> No.37577059

I only really see that coming from mythfags in global aanymore

>> No.37577078

Ah, looks like they just pushed it out for me as well now.
Thank goodness, I was getting really fucking annoyed at this fuckup.

>> No.37577083

Fucking Yugo is going to end up with more lifetime golds and points than some Luxiem members. All of it is due to that leeching telephone game shit and spamming karaoke streams. Lame as fuck. My most hated vtuber.

>> No.37577088

I really don't give a fuck about what NijiEN does I'm just more curious about HoloEN performance. Tally literally doesn't matter to me.

>> No.37577097

She can still get 7-9k tho. She is bad but not that bad.

>> No.37577113

>Vox reclined
>Council still can't get gold
Fulgur was right.

>> No.37577114

Well because this thread only talks about Council because Myth outside of Gura is even deader and are mostly burned out.

>> No.37577122

Kolento is Ukrainian and his last tweet was about getting invaded, I don't think he streams anything anymore.
Lifecoach just doesn't care, he only occasionally streams for fun and enjoys his retired life with his family and poker winnings.

>> No.37577188

Fauna MC should win that I'd say.

>> No.37577206

If only the hohols kneel from the start this would never happen.
Good for lifecoach I guess.

>> No.37577219

you mean that one guy?

>> No.37577239

>7 karaoke golds this month including 3 in a row just now
Karaoke was a mistake

>> No.37577294

I hate you guys. I'll see you tomorrow

>> No.37577307

All ENs, niji and holo alike lacks creativity. Yes, even Ame.

>> No.37577308

Kill yourself. I love you.

>> No.37577319

Why can't Fauna and Kronii just do a collab if they want to play Minecraft this week? The Civil war hype might be back again. Just why?

>> No.37577332

is he gone already, i fucking hate that guy

>> No.37577333

hey anon you showed Myth graphs except Gura, are you perhaps a chumbud who is afraid of showing her recline ?

>> No.37577337

Top multiplayer games are alive and retained their players for years because they are updating regularly and adding new characters/heroes in their game regularly.
Same can be said on hololive if you want to retain your viewers you need to do events and stuff so your audience would stick knowing there would be something in the near future to look forward to.

>> No.37577360

Fauna is taking off Thursday and Friday most likely because Thanksgiving, which doesn't affect Kronii in the slightest since she's Canadian.

>> No.37577365

The better singers I can understand but I really can't understand the appeal of watching a garbage singer like Fungus. I can't wrap my head around it.

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I love all of my wives

>> No.37577373

kronii is terrible at playing along with the girls

>> No.37577385

Because neither of them cares

>> No.37577400

Stop giving attention to him you retard.

>> No.37577403

Tempus collateral damage reverberating through all the kaigai branches
Totally worth it though for a handful of flirtatious tweets and a lame Keep Talking collab

>> No.37577410

>only need to stream ~ 2 hours each time
>still only stream 3 to 5 times per week only
Why are ENs so lazy? They don't even have 3D recording obligations.

>> No.37577415

Only IRyS seems capable of getting anything out of Kronii but IRyS has that effect on a lot of people.

>> No.37577417

Fauna no longer talks with Kronii

>> No.37577457

Fauna gave up on Kronii, and Kronii gave up on both Hololive and streaming as a whole.

>> No.37577465

It's sovl
More importantly it was a totsu

>> No.37577466

gura centa: the fan art

>> No.37577473

Why did Okayu out Mr. Koro as being 36 years old?

>> No.37577481

Fauna and Kronii literally only have 1 single one on one collab.

>> No.37577496

I assume Fauna is doing Wither prep for her Kiara collab
I'm not sure what Kronii will be doing, probably working on her bunker? So they have different goals I guess.

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>you showed Myth graphs except Gura
I got Gura after hours


>>37332172 :: Mori (massive recline, lowest point on record)
>>37332617 :: Ame (stable on a low point, near the lowest point on record)
>>37347227 :: Kiara (stable on a low point, lowest point on record)
>>37522700 :: Gura (returning to the mean)

>> No.37577539

He showed Gura already, you can find it in the archives. Irys and Ina got skipped until they come back

>> No.37577544

>I assume Fauna is doing Wither prep for her Kiara collab
She's not. The Kiara collab IS the wither prep. What she's doing is fixing up her village that she essentially took over, and making a trading hall of her own because she (without saying it) thinks Phoenixton is shit (she's right)

>> No.37577546

I remember when Kronii went menhera on their first 1 on 1 collab.

>> No.37577555

>stream 3 to 5 times per week only
if only...

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>> No.37577561

she wanted to build a clock tower

>> No.37577564

Would gura be able to survive a collab with haachama and marine?

>> No.37577565

The collab was supposed to be Wither prep

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>> No.37577590

>Fauna's trading hall

>> No.37577596

Be sure to watch my Hololive debut in January!

>> No.37577601

I want more 3D Fauna.

>> No.37577615

Yes, but only once.

>> No.37577622

>>Gura (returning to the mean)
>clearly below her mean with no sign of stopping
what did chartanon mean by this?

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>> No.37577635

mumei you already got in you don't need to keep baiting /here/

>> No.37577636

Kronii and Mori (ugly man voice) are too cool to solo collab with girls with cute voicesyhww0

>> No.37577641

Be sure to delete your boyfriend tweets before debut

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She said that she may do a Ring Fit stream with the Low Poly. She just doesn't really know how to set it up properly.

>Fauna's trading hall
You can actually find what you need
Have to run around like a fucking retard and hope to find the right villager because there's eight of them with six of them not even leveled.

>> No.37577667

doesn't change anything I said

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>> No.37577679

These Myth graphs are sickening (with the exception of Gura's, which is just slightly concerning).
I assume it's pointless to hope someone in management is looking at similar insights so I guess I won't even say it

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>> No.37577729

I bet you like PPP over FFF you fag

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>> No.37577778

>Kiara collab
Oh God please no

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>> No.37577819

Is that Delta?

>> No.37577820

Nah fuck off. Kiara is the only other person in EN who actively wants to do the Wither. 2 people dragging those other ungrateful bitches into playing Minecraft again is better than 1.

>> No.37577824

"Return to the mean" in this context is the coming out of a peak caused by events
She's running below her (way exaggerated) midpoint but way above her historical min, with somewhat "normal" range since May being 14k-19k. and her present number being 16k

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>> No.37577881

so just coping I see

>> No.37577887

>These Myth graphs are sickening
Now do the same with CouncilRyS.

>> No.37577927

Cover does not have a performance manager
Cover does not have a product manager
Cover does not have a brand manager

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>Now do the same with CouncilRyS.

>>37317439 :: Kronii (reclining, lowest point on record)
>>37317469 :: Fauna (stable on a high point)
>>37317875 :: Mumei (reclining, lowest point on record)
>>37318164 :: Bae (stable on a low point, lowest point on record)

Ina and IRyS aren't included because of their breaks

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>> No.37578031

So, also somewhat sickening, with the exception of Fauna
A few more months of this and HoloEN will just be Gura, Fauna, and the wreckage.

>> No.37578110

>wanting to be a girl

>> No.37578132

>everyone is on their historical low point except for Fauna which is inclining
Why the fuck are there faggots keep saying that "hard work does not matter"
>hard work is not the only thing that matters
Is not a legit response because all the ENs are clearly slacking off. I am not asking them to be like Koyori but at least stream as frequent as Iroha.

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All according to her plan.

>> No.37578167

sasuga GuraIna daughter

>> No.37578179

>Faunaschizo is gone
>There's Baeschizo instead

>> No.37578184

>Why the fuck are there faggots keep saying that "hard work does not matter"
Because Gura exists.

>> No.37578212

>GuraIna daughter
god I hope not, I enjoy more than 1 stream per week

>> No.37578223

How high will this go for a b-day celebration?

>> No.37578237

Bae and Ame stream a lot and they're shitters

>> No.37578245

They clearly got burned out/morale is low, but what caused it is anyone's guess.

>> No.37578248

>Faunaschizo is gone
What threads have you been reading

>> No.37578255

I mean, Bae and Mumei are at university, so their inclines during the summer to their fall drops are at least explainable. As far as I know, Kronii doesn't have the same excuse and Fauna is a trust fund baby who never had to actually do any labor or higher education because she had a silver spoon from birth.

>> No.37578258

Mumei reclined more thant everyone but this thread shits on everyone else but her, I'm tired of the special treatment you all give to the fucking owl

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Fauna is the only EN with the green line above the pink line.

I say in Fauna's case it's less about hard work (which is a factor but that would have carried Kiara up as well) and more about
>cultivating an audience not predominantly comprised of tourists, clipwatchers and social media dwellers

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>> No.37578278

Bae is a bad streamer with a bad voice and Ame tries to alienate her viewers on purpose.

>> No.37578284

it's nina so 4k

>> No.37578293

Is this really the woman that tried to leech off Luxiem? Pretty shameless if so.

>> No.37578313

>Fauna is a trust fund baby who never had to actually do any labor or higher education because she had a silver spoon from birth.
She has literally talked about having office jobs

>> No.37578316

She is reclining "to the baseline" too.

>> No.37578370

>Bae is a bad streamer with a bad voice
So no different from Fauna?

>> No.37578373

If hard work mattered, she'd already have sunk below that point long ago.

>> No.37578380

Thank you for agreeing that hard work is not the means to incline

>> No.37578381

>morale is low
Then the beating from management shall continue.

Not enough stream from Bae. Ame cranked all her streaming hours on 1 day which tired out her viewers.

>> No.37578411

I feel like this is just /uuu/ thread.

>> No.37578418

If you replace bad with good I guess.

>> No.37578422

Faunas voice is tolerable meanwhile Bae is the Kiara of Council.

>> No.37578429

It is the other way around. Hard does matter because if she work harder she can maintain her 20k instead of whatever "baseline" means.

>> No.37578470

Fauna's voice is relaxing, Bae's voice is obnoxious

>> No.37578490

>Hard work doesn't matter because [headcanon]
>It is the other way around. Hard work does matter because [headcanon]
this discussion is retarded and pointless

>> No.37578495

>One girl is actually performing well while everyone else in the branch is declining or stagnating
>Actual proof getting posted of it
>Surprised people talk positively of her

>> No.37578534

If I said Brazil is the only country with more than 4 World Cups, would call me a monkey?

>> No.37578550

nta but I like Bae's voice, it's much better than it used to be and is more pleasant than Mumei

>> No.37578559

For the past month Bae has had multiple days where she streams twice a day what the fuck are you smoking?

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This is /uuu/ but all saplings are numberfag.

>> No.37578600

I can assure you that 0 stream means 0 view. Simple as.

>> No.37578614

I'd ask why the fuck anybody cares about the shitty sport when there were two 0-0 games in a row.

>> No.37578618

Saplings are generally always numberfags
Don't visit Global during Fauna streaming hours

>> No.37578641

>The one girl that streams only buff content without overlap gets slightly better numbers than the others
Meh discussing her is boring

>> No.37578646

t. Faggot that goes over there to start shit

>> No.37578661

Saplings are cucks.

>> No.37578684

I’d ask what the fuck you’d be doing in a divegrass thread then

>> No.37578685

what are falseflaggers? anyone numberfagging in global is a falseflagger, infact anyone numberfagging outside of this thread is probably a shitposter

>> No.37578698

I wish mod would post my post history because I have never
It's kind of just a well accepted fact at this point and there's nothing wrong with it

>> No.37578712

She overlapped 2 people with the same game and got higher numbers than they did.

>> No.37578722

Come on, Fauna spent her whole career as the runt of council (excluding sana). Just let them be proud of their kirin wife.

>> No.37578751

It's been like this for a while after jp primetime is over

>> No.37578766

The other 2 had massive debuffs.

>> No.37578770

>Blatant shitposting that sometimes gets deleted en masse is totally an entire fanbase and not just a shitstirrer
Please rope yourself

>> No.37578783

The worst part about Tempus is that this is their Homo Myth. I shudder to imagine what Homo Council will look like.

>> No.37578792

It’s called recognizing quality

>> No.37578834

There were some genuinely innocent HoloJP posters that got collateral deleted along with the rest and were confused, that proves nothing.

>> No.37578853

Fauna along with Ina and IRyS also have "safe" personalities where you know they'll be calm and not randomly blow up during a stream.

>> No.37578855

What did Vesper actually do? I hope it is not some form of sexual harassment.

>> No.37578867

Go fuck yourself, shitposter.

>> No.37578871
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>They clearly got burned out
Something definitely happened.

Here is a slightly different chart from usual
> Number of streams in 60 days
for Gura.

She had over
>45 streams per 60 days
in 2020, then it dropped to a
>35 streams per 60 days
for most of 2021 and up until March 2022, then it FUCKING PLUMMETED to
>under 25 streams per 60 days
since then, reaching 15 streams per 60 days in the end of August.

The sudden drop in March 2022 clearly indicates something changed for Gura.
Any close fan knows what happened around that date? Did she take a break and return different or something?

I recall Gura having the coof or something like that around that time.

>> No.37578873

what is this cope, even most chumbuds don't numberfag while she's streaming, but saplingss have a disproportionate amount of numberfags compared to their size and it ends up leaking there

>> No.37578904

Lifestyle change

>> No.37578907

Concession accepted anon
I'm not saying an ENTIRE fanbase is shitty
I'm just saying that there are a substantial amount of saplings who are genuine numberfags even outside of this thread and that's normal with a fanbase that big
Bad apples mixed with the good ones

>> No.37578945

Oh you got tired of using sapplings so now you're using saplingss now? I ask you again, please go rope yourself. You're acting like this retarded numberfaggotry hadn't started with the whole "homobeggar vs unicorn" shit. You're acting as if people haven't been using Fauna for fucking months to start shit just so that had she ever "turned" they would be able to falseflag in the other fucking direction. Please just die.

>> No.37578950

I don't care about Tempus and reclining EN numbers, I just want EN3 to finally find myself a replacement for the shark, as I finally had enough

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>> No.37578965

she started posting here

>> No.37578966

take one look at this thread and you can see how much falseflagging as saplings there is, she is just the current toy

>> No.37578973

It is literally one guy, they always try to start Kiara vs Fauna and get mass deleted
I mean isn't that proof they're not innocent of they got deleted too?

>> No.37578976


>> No.37578993

Anon there are 9 other girls you can't tell me one somehow didn't tickle your fancy. Just because they add 5 more doesn't mean you'll find a replacement either

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>> No.37579037

>”e-every numberfag sapling is a falseflag!”
What do you call this?

>> No.37579038

>Bae was the first HoloEN to stream Pokemon SV and during Gura's timeslot with no overlap
>Bae will be the first HoloEN to stream Persona 5 and during Gura's timeslot with no overlap for the first hour
Could be a fun comparison.

>> No.37579046

You DO realize that it's entirely feasible for there to be a shitty sub section of a fanbase right? it's not always false flaggers and not everyone is a good bean

>> No.37579051

I feel like I am too late for Councilrys, I want a fresh start.

>> No.37579062


>> No.37579078

we all know saplings are either numberfags or closet numberfags

>> No.37579081

The one in global is a blatant fucking falseflag nigger. Like he literally starts "Fauna vs Kiara/Ame/Mori/whoever the fuck he feels like it" almost every fucking day and samefags into oblivion and then gets mass deleted.

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>> No.37579098

Well she literally told us, i bet if you did a graph of projects vs streams it would be inverse.

What would a graph of ceiling vs floor look like, like average of lowest X vs highest X per month

>> No.37579109

You do realize just one person can shit up a thread, right? What, are we going to talk about brats being numberfags because of the one person here using Bae to shit over everyone else?

>> No.37579122


>> No.37579143

You can be a numberfag without being retarded

>> No.37579173

It's you.

>> No.37579253

I don't even know why are they so shameful about it.
Like cmon, they even started coping the "PekoMiko daughter" ritual. Why bother denying your attitude?

>> No.37579262

The one thing I know is her holocure stream in early september she was totally off and something was clearly wrong irl
could have been a long time thing that was going on for a while

>> No.37579286

>beating from management
I think the exact opposite is true, it doesn't seem like they're doing enough. Take your pick of whether it's incompetence, malice, or both, but it doesn't seem like they really push them to do anything. Or worse, they don't have any power, leverage, or a healthy enough relationship with the talents to do so at all. I don't know if Cover has tenure for their talents, but after a certain point it just feels like they're allowed to run themselves into the ground (Matsuri, Haachama, etc.)

>> No.37579306

Anon... both the Pekomiko daughter ritual and the bootleg copy are obvious false flags designed to get people to shit on them. In fact it's probably you.

>> No.37579329

Its just one retard. Seriously what is the gura/ina daughter bullshit? They are nothing alike. Never watched a Fauna stream probably. (You) are part of the problem if you take their shitposts at facevalue.

>> No.37579389

Jealous huh? If it makes you feel better no one will ever love you as much people loves holos.

>> No.37579393

>What do you call this?
the same take i have seen with every other fandom on here

>> No.37579397

Now that you mention it. Fauna basically is some kind of fusion between the good parts of both Gura and Ina

>> No.37579424

I guess it's because both Gura and Ina get high/stable numbers

>> No.37579468

She fucking wishes, she's much less entertaining than both of them

>> No.37579489

Are sub boxes still broken? I thought Nina would be a little higher but she's leveling off below 3k

>> No.37579492

I want a hardworking girl who will focus on, well, working hard instead of complaining about difficulties. I don't actually mind the complaints, just don't let it affect your work / streams.

>> No.37579520

>less entertaining than Ina
No need to go that far

>> No.37579531

Literally no one likes Nina

>> No.37579547

I'm banning all discussion of Fauna from this thread until her stream tonight.

>> No.37579554

>Are sub boxes still broken

>> No.37579559

watch Irys 2.0

>> No.37579623

anon, Ina zatsus is probably the best out of all ENs (yeah even better than Gura's), when comparing their gameplay streams versus zatsus number-wise

>> No.37579638

He said hardworking

>> No.37579652

If she starts streaming as often as she did during her first 3 months again, maybe

>> No.37579660

IRyS complains more than anyone but Kiara and isn't particularly hard working

>> No.37579665

She's the only option until the ILUNA collab tonight so it's not like people have a choice
Maybe it'll go up when people come in, even Aster got like 6k for his birthday and he's even less liked.

>> No.37579668

It looks like someone in her life (family, friends) got really sick (maybe terminally) which would explain lower number of streams (to be with that person or take care of them), long unannounced breaks (ilness getting worse) and no schedule (so no need to cancel streams, no need to stream when feeling sad or depressed).A small increase in consistency right now (at least attempt was made) may have been caused by either death or recovery of that person.

>> No.37579673

It really fucking isn't. I'm not going to say it's shit but you're out of your fucking mind or don't watch much other ENs

>> No.37579684

She will be hardworking with her new model, she said it

>> No.37579726

This is /#/, anon. All are gauge here using numbers. Ina zatsus numbers are almost the same as her gaming streams.

>> No.37579730

Actions speak louder than words, anon

>> No.37579732

>Even better than Gura's
Ogey Tako
They're good but c'mon now

>> No.37579736

It's probably when Tempus got introduced to the shared Discord

>> No.37579746

Don't get riled up Sapling, Ina has great zatsu

>> No.37579750

Her zatsu is drawing stream right?

>> No.37579774

No, she won't. She will stream 15or fewertim3s in December and will never hit 20 streams in a month. I'm not even worried about a grudgepost. She recorded two whole songs between the end of June and now and still only streamed ~12 times a month. She has less streams this year than anyone but Ina.

>> No.37579811

>All are gauge here using numbers
Oh how I'd wish that to be true. But follow the thread anon. You replied to a couple schizos arguing about who is more "entertaining" which is completely subjective.

>> No.37579812

you need reading comprehension anon, I said better retention, not quality. Her gaming are 10k~, her zatsus are 8-9k~

>> No.37579814

Kiara's is literally the best in EN, why the fuck are you instantly defaulting to sapling

>> No.37579827

Enjoy the future grudge posts.

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gloves are sexy

>> No.37579876

I'm not even him but her compromise was "stream less hours but more streams in total" and you know for a fact her retarded addicted as won't do that.

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>> No.37579884

>A fucking KFPling

>> No.37579885

15 8 hour streams is a lot, anon

>> No.37579898

nah. I too am also a chumbud, and I want an EN Kaela. Just stream stream and more stream. Fuck idol fuckery. I don't need that shit anymore. Gura had me traumatized

>> No.37579912

Kiara's zatsus are only good if you are heavily infatuated with her otherwise shit sounds like listening to some random-ass girl at hospital's waiting room that can't disconnect from her phone
She's fine when she has interesting topic but the problem is that she tangents out of it way too frequently

>> No.37579929

I forgive Gura for lack of streams mainly because she will go to Japan soon. And IIRC she mentioned she needs to memorize a lot of songs which probably for her trip to JP.
Sure I would love for more Gura but if she regularly streams I wouldn't notice the other girls like Irys fauna and mumei.

>> No.37579948

anon, Gura's lack of streams has nothing to do with idol shit lmao

>> No.37579993

That's what I assume as well. Seems the most likely thing given the steady decline until her 2 week break after her 3D live

>> No.37580004

Let the chumbud cope

>> No.37580047

Nah, it does. She clearly is aiming for the Aqua route (her oshi). With months long of barely streaming, then some 3D performances here and there, then some sponsored stream. Yeah it's not happening YET, but that's her endgame.

>> No.37580053

>Fuck idol fuckery.
There are people in EN taking classes and vocal training and dance training and still doing 6 streams a week, you realize it's just a Gura issue specifically right?

>> No.37580061

The male auditions weren't even being accepted until March, which was a month after the first dropoff in February.
Which I guess lines up in a coincidental way with the graph, if that's how you want to interpret it.

>> No.37580062

She doesn't stream for 8 hours and 15 is a number incmuding collabs which are always shorter.

>> No.37580089

the problem right now is that mumei, bae and now fauna are just cmaping the night timeslot.
like why the fuck?
so it measn less people will see each one of them since they never finish soon enough to do a funnel they all end at the same time.

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>> No.37580117

Btw what were the expectations for Korone? Did she beat them? Any announcements?

>> No.37580132

Fauna has a reason, and it should stop after this week. Hell, it stops after today, outside of the collab which is clearly not her fault.

Bae and Fauna.

>> No.37580151

and who in them had a Cover-produced 3D performance aside from Mori? And Mori is in Japan to begin with.

>> No.37580171

Fauna is only there right now because she's trying to do ASMR at night to avoid trucks and she she has signing classes at her usual time on Tuesday.

>> No.37580206

What is Fauna's reason for streaming at this slot? Genuinly curious

>> No.37580219

See >>37580171

>> No.37580289

Her asmr is really falling off
should take off today and stream on firday or tuesday
now she is gonna fuck everyone numbers including hers.

>> No.37580316

Whatever. She'll stream 20+ days in December since it's her only chance to become relevant

>> No.37580335

Yes anon and let us know what their rigorous scheduling has amounted to outside of Mori. Because I sure would love to know what content exists out there that competes with 2 3D lives and multiple performances in 3D concerts

>> No.37580359

>Myth and Council falling
>Luxiem lost the mandate of heaven
>Enna and other nijiEN girls are falling with Selen only able to get good numbers from collabs
Isn't it grim on the EN side?

>> No.37580381

No , she won't. With lots of EN members traveling to Japan and the Holidays there is no way she streams more than 15 times.

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>> No.37580409

Aqua route isn't really "idol route". There are plenty of Holomem who do all idols things, are successful, and stream way more than Gura or Aqua does. Heck, Aqua has the excuse that she spent a lot of time offstream to do sponsored shits. I doubt Gura has that many big sponsorships to worry about.

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>> No.37580426

EN 3D appearances? Anyone knows the tally?

>> No.37580441

Absolutely novel insight, anon. I don't think I've heard this from anyone the past 2 months, well done.

>> No.37580461

No one knows if that'll ever happen. I just said that's her endgame.

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>> No.37580499

But there are people that would tell me otherwise here in this thread.

>> No.37580515

It is thanksgiving week and she is a burger who does not have any issues with her family.

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>> No.37580533

Gura shouldn't be the only one carrying an entire branch for over two years tho. JP has a lot of soft graduated talents like Ayame, Aqua and Shion who pulled their weight and now are pretty much special guests, but they have 30 more streamers making up for it.
EN lost Sana, Ina and Gura (pretty much) in the span of a few months and they decided to add a bunch of useless fags into the mix to somewhat make things worse.

>> No.37580542

Aqua produced, voiced and released a game in 2022 tho, along with beating an APEX Solo Masters, training for and headlining the biggest Apex tournament of the field, starring her own Sololove and, on top of it, her “Cover produced” 4rh anniversary 3D live.

Maybe that’s what Gura is aiming for but it will take showing a whole lot more actual results for it to be similar.

>> No.37580544

Finally somebody said it

>> No.37580548

doesnt change what isay about her asmr.

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>> No.37580569

Basically everyone in EN the EN sphere is reclining except for Fauna. And /#/ surprisepikachuface.png when the majority here is talking about Fauna

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>> No.37580605

>she has signing classes
Does she have poor calligraphy?

>> No.37580640

This is your average /#/ sapling by the way

>> No.37580647

Actually, pomu and Reimu (lol) are or stable at a high point
Waiting on the rest of the lazulight and obsydia graphs though

>> No.37580648

Those useless fags were planned and coming months ago.
It's not like they pulled them from thin air to compensate for their absence.
They were supposed to integrate in a healthier EN branch. Not the sorry state it's now.

>> No.37580670

This is why I wanted EN3 asap. I am too late for Councilrys and now is basically a clipfag, I got nothing to watch.

>> No.37580671

gura has been in multiple 3d lives, originals, covers, cons and other things this year. probably more than most ens

>> No.37580694

Do you know there are JP translated clips too?

>> No.37580783

Is Fauna inclining because she is attracting new fans who are discovering hololive or is she just assimilating existing holo fans from other members ??

>> No.37580792

But none of those people you listed are at the top of EN. Fauna is stable and is always in contention for cripple tally

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>> No.37580808

fuck off with your timeloops

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We already know this, we don't need to be told this over and over. Why can't we discuss one of the few EN vtubers who isn't reclining without being bombarded with GRIM GRIM GRIM GRIM IT'S HAPPENING, LE TORTANIC OF VTUBING every 5 seconds.

>> No.37580843

Fauna is inclining because she makes my pp incline

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>> No.37580860

>>Is not a legit response because all the ENs are clearly slacking off.

>> No.37580873

I think it is the later. The EN box is very small and basically just Gurabox. People watch her because she stream consistently and is somewhat competent in the games. In fact, she is the only gamer in Council.

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>> No.37580942

I find these hours are the best time to make pro unicorn threads because bait all the seething 2 views fans out of the woodwork.

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>> No.37581029

They were a dumb bet and one that backfired harder than anyone would've ever expected.

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>> No.37581103

>add a bunch of useless fags into the mix to somewhat make things worse
All for the sweet and juicy Twitch audience!

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>Gura out
>Bae monopolizes Gura's timeslot
>Fauna somehow moved to ...uh... "after Gura timeslot"
>Bae overlapping Irys's comeback

>> No.37581175

Then I don't think it is a good thing for holoEN. So is Gura the only gateway for fresh/new HoloEN.

I think in 2020, Mori was also a gateway through her music. I don't know who was the gateway for KR fans but there is a significant rise in KR superchats this year for some members.

Some of the suggestions I see here are meant for retaining the fanbase rather than attracting new fans

>> No.37581195

irys anoucned it after bae schedule

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>> No.37581210

beautiful sine wave

>> No.37581216

Holy fucking shit nigga how many times do people have to tell you that Fauna's move isn't permanent and that it even shows in the goddamn scehdule

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>> No.37581269

just space the streams better
have 3 streams next to each other doesnt work for EN
make every stream at least 2 hrs before the enxt one starting.

way too ruin persona and pokemon numebrs for fauna. imo bae and faun should exchange slots today.

>> No.37581274


>youtube promotes me a random 2 view stream from channel I've never watched
>it's actually some ID clipper at work

perhaps the algorithm is learning

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>> No.37581321

>Vtubing is dead
and EN killed it
they could've had the ball rolling like JP

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>> No.37581343

hard to do it since they can have birthday 3d lives each year

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Continuing Lazulight, here is the chart for Elira. She's currently at the same level she inclined to mid May, and like most of NijiEN, she had a very good summer including a very good exposure through the Koshien watchalong.

It remains to be seen whether or not she can keep her incline or if her current downward trajectory is permanent.

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YouTube sub boxes seem fixed, at least on my end

>> No.37581479

It is funny how Bae POUNCED on that time slot after Gura stopped streaming consistently

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>> No.37581532

can someone check on mobile

>> No.37581547

And hasn't benefited from it at all thanks to Mori and Fauna just completely trampling over it

>> No.37581548

Maybe they should let Riku take over EN branch for a few month to accelerate it to an appropriate speed.

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>> No.37581597

Man, what happened to Haachama's numbers?

>> No.37581607

Wasn't the problem on mobile? Which is the majority of the uW2J8THsers?

>> No.37581622

This. Everyone is mad at Gura for not carrying all of EN while they yab constantly and kill the mood for every game they touch, whether it's Minecraft or Rust. That's hardly fair.
Fact is, HoloEN is in year 3 and their priority seems to be retiring their cute girls and forcing people to watch males and Nijisanji.

>> No.37581629

>Debuts 5 fleshtubers for EN3
The meltdown would be something.

>> No.37581630

I had the same issue on desktop

>> No.37581646

Act like Niji, get Niji numbers.
Same applied to Kiara too.

>> No.37581664

why is holoEN channel technically dead? even holoID do things sometimes

>> No.37581681

becasue she hasnt done anything interesting on it.
mostly game streams.

>> No.37581710

Yagoo should had done that honestly.

>> No.37581737

I guess we just have to wait and se what else broke in the process

>> No.37581748

People like to blame the talents being lazy for everything bad happening in the branch, but StarsEN's fast tracking to debut FOUR MONTHS after auditions is absolutely something that can't be attributed to the girls. I don't know if it was JP management or EN that was responsible for that, but it didn't necessarily have to be this bad. They could have just kept them separated and they could have collabed with the same Twitchfags and indies that they did on their own. But being forced into HoloEN in such an antagonistic and blunt way was by far the worst thing to happen to the EN branch as a whole. I hope everyone who begged for this shit to happen (assuming they weren't just malicious antis who hate HoloEN) realizes how much a retard they are, but I doubt they're here anymore.

>> No.37581750

for tempiss

>> No.37581770

This is why I fucking left global. Faggots only got Gura to blame for all of their oshis fuckups.

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>> No.37581824

I think it's fair to call out Gura for being lazy because she totally is, but she doesn't deserve blame for the fall of Myth.

>> No.37581827

I'm tempted to track Kronii's and Fauna's most recent ASMRs because as it looks now, Fauna's is on track to passing Kronii's who's had a few day head start, but that's with me just eyeballing.

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>> No.37581873

kroni had 80K after the first 12hrs.

>> No.37581883

It's one thing to call her lazy, it's another thing to blame her for not carrying myth when she's been doing that alone for the straight 2 years.
where the fuck is the other 9 girls to share the burden. And now we have Tempus we have some that rather share the burden with fucking StarsEN instead of Gura for some fucking reason.

>> No.37581913

As we've seen already, first spurt literally doesn't matter.

>> No.37581935

>OMG JP is so good
>Let's ignore them having a company doing shit for them
>OMG EN is so bad
>Let's ignore them not having a company doing shit for them

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>> No.37581956

Come on, anon. They don't care about Gura whether she streams or not. They only care about their oshis insignificance and reclining numbers, let's be real. This is why they're all GURAME, SAMETORI, BONEBROS IS REAL! when Gura collab with their oshis, because they get above average numbers. But when Gura does not, they attributed it to Gura ghosting the entirety of Myth.

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cry more, faggot.

>> No.37581984

so true, why is anykara such a black company?

>> No.37581990

the priest one is like 200k with almsot a month.
people would price faun but i do think her asmr is on decline vod wise.

>> No.37582039

kek. So real. The state of hlgg.

>> No.37582047

why are you projecting your numberfaggotry into others?

>> No.37582072

All KFP only care about Pavonashi and Pomutori.

>> No.37582079

You should be comparing to the live ones, they surpassed the priestess one fairly quickly even while being more recent

>> No.37582091

>Numberfag in the numbers thread accusing others of numberfagging

>> No.37582094

Pre-recorded ones don't usually do all that well, though. Like her history of pre-recorded ones are always significantly less than her live ones.

>> No.37582095

No Holo I'm subscribed to is on right now (just missed Kaela) but it is showing me Clear (rocket girl) and Amiya (retro spider) as live.
White dudes have swooped in and fixed some pajeet code!

>> No.37582107

First of all, you're in /#/, coping about you not caring about your oshis numbers is not allowed here.

>> No.37582116

Just after it was released, I thought it would take 3 days for Nezumi Scheme to overtake I'm Greedy, but it should happen in less than 2 days.
My previous prediction >>37498656

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>will play APEX for 4 hours yesterday and rushes home today to play again for 2 hours*
>still can't get a mandatory 1 hour stream.
meh fuck this, I'm leaving before I become an anti.
Hope she makes it to kohaku and budokan but this is lame.

Goodbye, all the best Hoshiyomi.

>> No.37582167

Two non-numberfaggot in numbers thread? KEK

>> No.37582191

You make the rules here?

>> No.37582192

I wish I could see face of 2018/2019 FBK if I would show her the shit you guys are writing here.

>> No.37582212

No, but this is /#/ thread for a reason.

>> No.37582226

It was a mobile problem though

>> No.37582256

Not only, i had the same bug on desktop

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>> No.37582277

I am a numberfag, but I still think it's very retarded to say that everyone in global, or any other thread, is one too

>> No.37582354

I checked on mobile and it is showing me live streams and waiting rooms again (EU)

>> No.37582370

Kronii's ASMR isn't that good as a sleep aide and I don't know if she removes ads from it like Fauna does

>> No.37582395

Magnum Opus buff

No seriously I hope she stops doing 3D MVs altogether. Also she should probably hand animate her next MV too as that will slow down her release cycle. She sometimes puts out too much music for people to care and needs to space them out more.

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After almost 2 hours stagnating around 3k, how high does Nina go /#/?

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>I don't know if she removes ads from it like Fauna does
From my end it looks like she does what Fauna does and have them at the beginning but none in the middle which is the right way to go about it if you still want to monetize.

Also it's not like her last one didn't do well.

>> No.37582483

I'm pretty sure Bae has streamed during this slot tons of times in the past, Gura or not
This is nothing new

>> No.37582523

Why would someone like Kobo have a problem with male collabs? Afaik she didn't know anything about hololive and it's culture before joining so it makes sense that she behaves more similar to Mori/Kronii than Gura. Pretty sure her ID audience also have little to do with holobox.

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They're playing gartic and more people are coming in, Shu JUST joined.

>> No.37582547

She was whispering in her old one so they're a bit different

>> No.37582590

Actually on the topic of that, has Kobo contributed anything at all to growing the box?

>> No.37582670

nah bro she definitely POUNCED and monopolized that slot despite streaming at 10-12 JST consistently for at least 6 months

>> No.37582683

90% of Hololive feels very questionable with the amount of work they put in.
Actually, I wonder what the numbers are for how much of Hololive's content are made by their top 10% most prolific streamers.

>> No.37582699

No, I guess. Her viewers seems to be very disconnected with the other ID girls
Practically we have an ID version of Gurabox with her, except she doesn't have a clique so she pretty much hog all of them

>> No.37582725

Greedy cheesy is just extremely forgettable and bland. Im not a fan of cringe electroswing hip hop but at least it has some soul and personality.

>> No.37582729

That's disappointing

>> No.37582732

There's only 1 Gura absency slot pouncer in EN

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>> No.37582820

Tbf, her fans are largely ID normies/kids. So it's always a hard battle to actually assimilate them into the box.

>> No.37582841

What caused it to shoot up after almost 2 hours?

>> No.37582890

Gura called in, it was pretty crazy

>> No.37582899

Late April was the start of the house hunting arc, iirc. Looking at this right now it does look like something happened at the start of the month that triggered that, and afterwards it was all downhill. She said she'd try to stream or post updates while gone and then it was instead two weeks of silence. When she got back she acted like nothing happened and when someone asked if she moved or found a new place she politely asked for privacy. It kept getting worse after that with less streams and status updates(and the latter were never frequent to begin with) with the exception of October, which wasn't even mind blowing. You asked if any of us knew if anything happened, and the answer is no. We can speculate, and we have from everything to 3d live prep to the dummy shark system having a glitch and needing maintenance before the next Guranami is deployed, but we're pretty clueless as to whatever's going on.

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The Nijisanji special

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>> No.37582931

So this is the power of /vt/ shill... Sugoi desu.

>> No.37582933

also i think some of those left after the collab with milyhya due to cursing more

>> No.37582944

Of course

>> No.37583005

Shu will save all his dying comrades

>> No.37583010

People might think you are joking but i heard that it got unbearable and crass as fuck

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>> No.37583094

Let me know when she streams in it when Gura gets back

>> No.37583117

I don't give a fuck about CCV
What about the monthly channel views gains?

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