/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

I genuinely think she regrets her actions and is trying to make up for it will you please give her another chance?

[Anonymous No.]

no stop asking

[Anonymous No.]

No.

[Anonymous No.]

>Betrays fandom for male vtubers
>Comes crawling back after they get in trouble
Never trust a woman.

[Anonymous No.]

NEVER BECAUSE UNICORNS FUCKING WON

[Anonymous No.]

No. I’m 100% positive that asmr tonight is dedicated to Vesper. Enjoy being cucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
Regreting consequences =/= regreting actions

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
no I already gave her a chance before HomoEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
She still hates lonely men.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406285
How could it be dedicated to Vesper when this was planned out last week?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406546
She's the one who ratted him out.
This was all planned to get her numbers back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
Still don't know what the full story is behind all the hate for her. All this over some collabs with dudes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406724
Called her detractors virgins, made promises she immediately backtracked on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406805
why did she become like that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
pay up
you know what to do

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
fuck off Kronii

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406724
She asked if her viewers had members of the opposite sex. Obviously nobody who watches vtubers has friends, let alone friends of the opposite sex, so they got rightfully angry.
Then Ame agreed that Vtubers should be able to choose who they collab with and that if they do or don't want to collab with males then that's okay. Women should not be allowed to make decisions, so her fans got rightfully angry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406271
I'm still unsure of how the fandom was betrayed. Boys do exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406927
That's not really what happened. Some eople overreacted to her one male collab and she had an awkward conversation afterwards where both sides got misrepresented

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406950
She also called them maidenless (ie virgins).

[Anonymous No.]

>>37407011
stop trying to retcon what happened, she's a lying bitch. Best you can hope for is she was tricked by Mori but then she's just a used up dumb cunt

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
If she's only pandering to unicorns now because her numbers are down and growth is slowed then she doesn't sincerely care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37407096
Nah people like you are the problem and she's better off without them

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>>37407096
i'm the one who asked him. so Mori manipule her or there's other factors?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406991
They are mentally ill

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>>37406226
She isn't, otherwise she would have just apologized already. It's not even hard to do, just go "I'm sorry for upsetting and alienating some of my fans, I will do my best from now on to make sure everyone is happy" and dont make any more promises that get broken not even a week later

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
Stop asking for forgiveness, Kronii. You already know the answer to that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
>regrets her actions
no, she is just unhappy with the consequences of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406274
>They are all fucking dead
>Kronii comes back crawling for asmr trying to reach up to unicorns again
Lmao

[Anonymous No.]

No

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
>write all of this
>when you could just say "I'm delusional" instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>37407209
No gonna get into the details but tldr
>Did a DBD collab with Mori and the boys
>Some Members didn't like that she did it
>Post comments saying "I don't like this content" on her schedule post
>She received SCs related to her collabing with males
>Makes an unarchived member stream to talk about it, she was confused about the SCs and comments on her VOD, (Here she read the comments mentioned above from her members)
>She kinda understands the member's point, about not liking that content, she says she will maintain the interactions at a minimum, only collab if invited, no POV on her channel.
>2 days before she comments on a video about the situation, she says some dumb shit about "Unfortunately idol culture is a thing", referring at the double standard about gay shipping and herero shipping.
>She goes on a 2 week break a day after this
>But not before lefting a tweet responding to Vesper's underwear.
>Members mad again, she already broke one of her promises on the member stream.
>She came back from her 2 week break, not only stating that he backpedals all said on the members, but having a 1 on 1 collab with vesper and participating on the worm tournament with the other tempus.
Like a 1k people left her after this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
Not yet. The ball's in my court so I'll keep waiting for an express apology

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
A whore and a liar. Crawl like a vermin in the dirty floor some unicorn took a shit at.
>>37407096
This
>>37407180
Go back to Twitter, trannie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
Fuck no, at best I tolerate her. I mean she still interrupted her stream a couple weeks ago to call the homo faggot. The moment you fall for her lies she's pull another Jokeronii.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
never

[Anonymous No.]

>>37407997
That return Vesper stream felt particularly spiteful. Kek. Imagine being a kronie

[Anonymous No.]

>>37407997
"Not really on Twitter because I don't use Twitter much anyway" is not the hard promise you make it sound like

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406991
So does reddit, go back there faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>37408245
I mean, I know, but is what made a lot of the fandom worry, like
>This bitch doesn't use Twitter that much, and she is deep in drama due to male collabing and the last thing we know about her after the break announcement is a reply to some dude boxers.
A lot of people felt it like a slap in the face.

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>>37407997
the things that left weren't "people"
how any of this is offensive is beyond me

[Anonymous No.]

>>37407997
How can Kronies defend this behavior? I'm serious. There are better ways a vtuber can treat their fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37408360
Only if you show me how to use it, big guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>37408416
Well that's because you're a redditor and most likely a tranny, become the statistic you were meant to be please

[Anonymous No.]

>>37408490
Yeah yeah you think you have to be unpleasant because you're on 4chan. Grow up

[Anonymous No.]

>>37408416
>offensive
It's about trust, some anons that were ok with the male collabs also disliked the way she handled things. Heck, half of /vt/ were kinda happy with her because of that unarchived member stream, instead of her going the ame improve yourself thing.

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>>37408465
was there anything about that that made you upset

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>>37408558
Trust? How? Doing collabs isn't a breach of trust, it should be expected if anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37408465
Have you met deadbeats? No one treats their fans worse than Mori

[Anonymous No.]

>weren't "people"
Ladies and gentlemen, here is the side of "Love".

[Anonymous No.]

>>37408678
Anon, do you even know how to read, she never said she will stop the collabs, she just said she will make it easier for her members to ignore them. That was the compromise that she broke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37408698
I used to watch a fair bit of calli but never felt betrayed, this is really funny. For once, I feel like the well adjusted one.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>37408678
you wouldn't know anything about trust.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
I figured Kronii would have been the most popular out of her gen what with her model, that voice of hers, her passing knowledge of japanese, and the domme thing she had going on in her first few streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37408829
>doesn't ignore them anyways
hell is something you make

[Anonymous No.]

>>37408416
>like and support product
>product changes to appeal to a different demographic
>company starts lying to your face and trying to gaslight you
>say you don't like it
>get insulted by a bunch of rabid social media tards who never even cared about the product in the first place

[Anonymous No.]

>>37408465
Kronies have stockholm syndrome, please undastand

[Anonymous No.]

>>37408898
I do, what now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37408829
She changed her mind and her statement about it was reasonable once she had time to think things over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37408904
>appeal to a different demographic
you were never intentionally appealed to in the first place, though. you tried to co-opt a streamer because you were horny. you are very far from a victim here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37408465
they got fooled by titties and voice at debut and then instead of recognizing what kind of person they were really dealing with they stayed until the facade completely broke down

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409068
you already admitted you don't even watch Kronii, shut up nigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409171
I do she's my oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409068
Sure, she could have not made any statement and not commented on that clip, and continued doing whatever she wanted. She might be better that way honestly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409111
But the fucking point, you obtuse moron, IS to appeal to the audience, intentionally. That's where the bouncing tits and the great voice and the engaging personality comes it. Fuck's sake. What is wrong with you people?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409111
Straight up lies.
More coomer/GFE than this is straight porn.

[Anonymous No.]

nah

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409309
it's a cuck just looking for posts to report to get bans, there's no meeting of minds here. Just shit on their face and move on

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406274
it feels so fucking good bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409316
The worst part is that most Kronies were getting their Daki and booba that week, their gift for waiting so long was getting cucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37407997
She never said "unfortunately idol culture is a thing" and I am tired of these Ingsoc playbook fools spreading this false propaganda.

[Anonymous No.]

If anyone is going to defend Kronni, at least explain properly why she needs to do ASRM, that shit is baby first parasocial trick.
Keep in mind real normal ASMR does not consist of a girl whispering. Why the fuck would your therapist use a sweet tone when she’s working, for once recall how normal professional interactions works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409271
I agree but I think those attempts were made in good faith so I don't hold it against her and it raised my opinion of her. Unfortunately there's a bunch of trolls in the general fanbase who try their hardest to interpret any statement in the least charitable way possible to own the male collabers

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
She only regrets she got caught.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409416
She did type it in a comment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409111
I mean look at Hololive compared to Nijisanji, male collabs are extremely rare and very few talents go for them. It's obviously part of the brand appeal and the main reason people choose it over Niji. But not point in arguing with you, you're genuinely fucking insane and too brainwashed to realize it.

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>>37409416
Kronii? She said that exact phrase you put in quotation.
I just don't know what the fuck is with her. Doesn't even recognize Ahoy, then spits in her JP senpais' faces with that garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409426
>why she needs to do ASRM
Because she bought the mic weeks before any of this. Needs to get the investment back baby.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
unfortunately...

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>>37409472
If you actuallly read the comment you would have seen with your own eyes that she did not, in fact, literally say "unfortunately because idol culture is a thing." I am tired of having this stupid debate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
when she does an apology member's only stream, @me and i will member her again

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
you spamming this thread over and over won't change my mind retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409576
I read the comment when it was posted, that's exactly what she said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409309
an audience is being appealed to, it just isn't you and hasn't been you. These people can entertain who they want, 4chan boys are not a notable demographic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409576
Yes, keep bumping the thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
She's a vile person with 0 empathy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409523
>>37409644
>>37409724
Here it is. Read the entire thing and the context in which it was said. There are two words before and one after the word unfortunately that proves you are a liar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
Never forgive spiteful whores

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
only mori's death
the queen bitch death will
satisfy me

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409523
No she didn't. If you have proper reading comprehension that's not what her statement meant. She said "Unfortunately there are double standards between male-female and female-female interactions and people can get heated about and take things far and take it out on the talent, because idol culture is a thing."

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409724
>>37409750
I don't think that it's a good habit to take things streamers do personally, or "take things far".
Unless you enjoy it more when you're mad and wound up

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409750
>37409750
kek you're not proving anything, she is shitting on idol culture and the fans that support it

[Anonymous No.]

FUCK KRONII

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409693
Shut the fuck up. You don't know how to enjoy anything, you fat cunt. Go back to your subreddit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409750
Most of them are probably ESL and won't get it

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
If she doesnt promise to never collab again doesnt matter if I give a chance to her or not, it's like giving er a knfe and turning my back to her, I never know when she'll stab me.

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>>37409750
it changes literally nothing about the message. she blames not being able to bring males on stream on idol culture, like everyone has been telling you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409724
Oh look at that, she said exactly what everyone here already knows and says on a daily basis yet are only mad because Kronii was the one saying it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409890
then where are we, mister? are you feeling appealed to?

[Anonymous No.]

You all are legitimately unwell and need some brain stapling. And chemical castration.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409915
isn't that true? if hololive wasn't positioned as an idol alternative, would anyone give a fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409838
How is that different from what that anon said?
>"Unfortunately idol culture is a thing", referring at the double standard about gay shipping and herero shipping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410003
But you're the minority. It would serve more people if you disappeared instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409724
I can't believe people can get so angry about such an even-handed comment.
>>37410059
It's unfortunate that it makes people get heated and take things too far and take it out on the talent, not that it exists at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409885
>>37409915
Except she is not shitting on anything, she is stating a fact. Did she say anything incorrect? The fact that we are even having this discussion proves her correct.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410049
In that case they would be in Niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410111
>not that it exists at all
where the fuck it said anything about its existence? the clarification is at the end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
She regrets it because it backfired in her fucking face. No, and the answer is always going to be no. Fucking graduate already

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409885
idol culture sucks. I'm not about some soulless pretty face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410049
What I don't give a fuck about is what-ifs.
Reality is, Holo EN was doing great, then reclined a bit after covid, then males shat it all up. Kronii is encouraging the shitting up part with that comment. Do you encourage Kronii shitting up Holo EN? Then you're objectively the problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410111
>it didn't happen
>okay it did happen but you're misreading
>okay you're not misreading but you shouldn't get upset

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410208
No you're still misreading it

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
No. She listened to Mori, big mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
She's going to cancel her stream in solidarity with Tempus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409891
Doesn't change anything, she is referring to the Idol culture as an unfortunate thing, or in your context. referring to the fact that the idol culture rules exist as an unfortunate thing.
You should argue that she used "unfortunately" as a polite way to write and that she is ESL. That's the only way this doesn't look as bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410254
looks like you're mentally unwell

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409111
NTA but IIRC on debut she appealed to coomers somewhat. Plus unlike NijiEN where people barely watch the females because of the males, Hololive sort of sold itself on the fact that you won't really see that kind of content often, save for some friendlier members who dont care what people think like Fubuki, Matsuri, Towa, ect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37407096
I'm sure you can provide timestamps where she explicitly promised to never collab with males again, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409724
>>37409750
>falling for months-old edits
retards

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
Did she give Gabe-kun a chance? Did she welcome him back? No mean no

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410378
>post member stream clip so I can report you for ban
how about no

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410401
you roasties are almost JIDF-tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410378
https://files.catbox.moe/8684g7.mp4
She never said she wouldn't collab, she said it wasn't going to be in her channel and that she wouldn't tweet at them, both things she did right after saying she wouldn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
The only thing Kronii regrets is her paycheck dropping by 50% because she thought twitter trannies would pay her bills instead of loyal gachikoi

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410313
But it IS unfortunate that some people try to hurt the talent because of a male collab when they're not even an uncommon thing in Hololive and Kronii never promised not to do them. If you're dead set on reading it in the worst possible way that's on you

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410205
I don't see any shit, my guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410208
>Kronii did nothing wrong
>Kronii never lied
>ok Kronii lied but you are schizo incels for getting mad at it
>ok even if you are absolutely right to get mad from a consumer perspective she never said "idol culture is unfortunately a thing"
>okay even is she said it you misread it
no point arguing with this tard, he's either baiting at this point or trying to gaslight some newfags who might fall for his bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37407180
>she's better off without them
Kronii doesn't agree which is why she's sheepishly scheduled another ASMR to claw some of her gachi back

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410513
that's not relevant, and that's your opinion, the fact is that she wished Idol culture wasn't a thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410520
it's a bait thread by some Kronii cuck fishing for replies to report to own the antis, you can tell because of the images and OP comment

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410520
you forgot
>BLAH BLAH BLAH I CAN'T HEAR YOU KRONII NEVER LIED

[Anonymous No.]

yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
>giving a woman who was told common sense shit multiple times and ignored it a second chance
Ishygddt

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
I agree with you. She 100% was getting her ass fucked and for some reason retroactively decided she didn't consent and accused him of rape.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410483
Why would any Kroniicorn want a promise that includes Kronii not streaming her POV while being around males? I know I didn't. That promise actually sucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37407180
>she's better off without them
Then why is she desperately trying to get them back?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410716
Standard woman moment she got a hard dicking and was filled with regret and cum

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410645
She never said that. The most you can infer from her statement is that she wishes it didn't lead to people taking their anger out on the talent

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410742
Because it's a compromise, they graciously agreed to that wich was a sin for a unicorn, multiple of them were ready to cut off their horns and bite the bullet for Kronii, and then she canned them all anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
She did nothing wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410313
>You should argue that she used "unfortunately" as a polite way to write
NTA but YES, that is EXACTLY why she added that word. She does this a lot when she writes but people who do not watch Kronii and do not understand the context in which things are said took it and ran with their incorrect "unfortunately idol culture is a thing" fabrication.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410745
she isn't. your object permanence is so maldeveloped you assume that something like an asmr can only be for you, but again, it isn't.

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>>37410796
that has nothing to do with the statement, you're reaching on a super high degree, she isn't talking about harassment she is talking about people's sensibilities, as she was saying in the members stream, she conceded that not everyone who don't like males is a harasser and they can just not like it respectfully.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410907
>politely says idol culture is unfortunately a thing
yeah that makes it so much better, idiot

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410986
yeah, those things are definitely two separate issues, shame on the anons for conflating them

[Anonymous No.]

It IS unfortunate that idol culture is a thing. How can you actually defend this without being a coomer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410986
>not everyone who don't like males is a harasser and they can just not like it respectfully
yeah about that.. >>33774375

[Anonymous No.]

>>37411053
Okay you fucks are intentionally being obtuse at this point even though all the evidence is laid out in front of you. Take your libtard denial of facts to the grave. I will continue to watch my oshi that graciously gives me some asmr tonight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37411117
the fuck are you on about? what does idol culture have to do with coomers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37409436
I believe she had good intentions just had trouble communicating.Otherwise she would have never tried to understand the problem. She never wanted conflict only tried to resolve it. The people hating aren't real kronies. Kronii only fault was her final statement about collabs should have been first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
She's legitimately boring outside of her very scuffed collabs and she never sounded happier than with the guys.
So no, she doesn't offer anything i'm interested in watching.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37411117
You have a whole company dedicated for your orgy fantasies so you can feel free to fuck off to them

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
>>37406991
She lied to her fans 3 times within the span of a week then told them to deal with it or fuck off, so they fucked off.
And no, I doubt many of them will come back since Kronii is boring as fuck when you finally see past her design and voice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
What if management drop all EN whores, then start anew with EN3?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37411253
If you're not obtuse, what's so hard to understand that saying that idol culture being a thing is unfortunate in a " possibly polite" way doesn't change her side? She went about it more politely (your headcannon) to shit on idol culture being the thing to blame for her cucking her fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406271
The classic cuck experience

[Anonymous No.]

>>37411304
What do you think? Do you think idol fans enjoy the idols for other reasons than horny?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37411441
No they need a new strategy if they're going to stay in gaijin market, the whole 5 talent debut shit clearly isn't working for EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>37411410
>Kronii is boring as fuck when you finally see past her design and voice.
this becomes more evident when you watch her last stream where all she said amongst the dead air was "hmm" and "wow" and the occasional "that's cute"

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>>37410742
Kronii handled it decently at first. She acknowledged there was a portion of her fanbase who dislike cross branch Homo collabs and said they'd be rare and not on her channel. The issue was when a week later she said "Fuck you I do what I want!" for literally no reason other than the pink wigger getting in her head and making her think she needs to fight against "idol culture" whatever the fuck she thinks that is

[Anonymous No.]

>>37411384
not sure why I can't just enjoy the streamers I have enjoyed to to now
I only come here to laugh at you, I don't watch niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
Never

[Anonymous No.]

>>37411546
sounds like she was conflicted about it and decided her own preferences mattered more than a portion of people who were going to find reasons to be upset anyways. we know how this goes down.

[Anonymous No.]

Damn it feels good to be right.

[Anonymous No.]

I never cared for her in the first place. I don't like her doomer attitude or the narcissist meme and I think her design is bad aside from the really big and expressive eyes which are great. Her tits aren't that big a deal, there are tons of vtubers with better pairs.
I only ragged on her homo collabs because she added to the number of homo sympathizers in HoloEN and helped normalize the idea, which doesn't bode well for the future of the branch. If EN3 debuts and they're all homofags, I'm blaming it on Kronii and Ame for opening that door (Mori and Bae were always expected to do it and two out of ten would have been a lot more manageable).

[Anonymous No.]

>>37411496
You're actually retarded. I don't know what psychology is involved but men aren't all coomer freaks and you should address your problems alone, by yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37411410
Kronii's biggest thing was her sincerity, she was proud to say she never ever lied and she hated people who lied, she even got sick when she said she would have a guerrilla week and couldn't stream (meaning some people accused her of lying about having streams that week) She felt deep guilt for only having a 20 min collab that week, she even streamed over Irys anniversary and did multiple members streams and spaces to make up for it.
This level of trust and honesty can never be back after the tempus shit show.
Even if people come back, they will never have the same connection with Kronii and will second guess her every action.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37411637
See I'd actually believe that if she didn't have an ASMR scheduled. You're telling me Kronii wants to do whispering ASMR? Fucking bullshit she can barely stand showing her models tits on stream. We know she hates coomer pandering

[Anonymous No.]

>>37411637
>we know how this goes down
Yeah her paycheck diving off the cliff and her pathetically trying to get gachis back. If she had listened to her fans instead of twitter all of this could have been avoided.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37411774
Never said that all men are, just the idol fanatics. It's you have a reason to obsess over idols that isn't based on hormonal reactions, I'm willing to learn and grow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37411546
>for literally no reason other than the pink wigger getting in her head and making her think she needs to fight against "idol culture" whatever the fuck she thinks that is
Kronii is a grown ass adult, she's not a kid that Mori can manipulate just by saying a few words to her. She did what she did because she already hated unicorn in the first place and not just because of Mori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37411815
I dunno, even fauna's asmr doesn't really seem to be for coomers. I think people just like the asmr effect itself. She has a good voice for listening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37411815
She did ASMR 3 months ago and I think she said she wanted to do more? It's not like this is her first

[Anonymous No.]

>>37411988
I feel like her professionalism was winning out at first hence the members stream where she addressed the concerns directly. After her break I think Mori managed to tip her back to the wrong side. I won't say Kronii wasn't conflicted, she clearly was but she was getting egged on by a bad actor.

Even adults make bad decisions against their better judgement if their friends push hard enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>37412097
That was back when she was still pretending to actually care about her gachis. After the whole "I'll do the content I want to do" thing there's no reason for her to do ASMR other than try and claw back lost revenue

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406724
She trashed her core audience multiple times on twitter for no reason, it was so beyond stupid that there were probably drugs involved

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>>37411546
The whole no pov/twitter interactions was in the moment and clearly should have been pondered over. It would never worked out in the long term from a viewer and management standpoint. Its either with or against collabs from the getgo. She was too nice and suffered for it

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as someone who just watches clips and fanart for fapping shamelessly, this is the first thread I clicked on this board out of morbid curiosity and man

ya'll fucking sad

[Anonymous No.]

>>37412172
you can't even imagine that she might want to do it?

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>>37412180
She has one (1) "controversial" statement on Twitter and she doesn't trash anyone in it. She says that she's there to make friends, would like to be able to collab with whoever she wants, and to respect her decision.

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>>37412206
It would have worked, It did work every member was decently happy with that, other members do even worse (Fauna / Gura) it's not a big sacrifice, those were reasonable and easy to do terms.

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>>37412234
Someone who have open contempt against her viewers would never do something intimate like affirmation ASMR

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>>37412213
go back.

[Anonymous No.]

>M-muh idol culture
Retards don't even know that this isn't exclusive to nips and their "idol culture"

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>>37412213
>ya'll
Kill ya'llself.

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>>37411975
Is the concept of fans so alien to you? Fans of music bands, fans of certain people who inspire certain ideals, etc? Men like women who exude femininity because so many women around them today are like you and the other roasties ITT who have no internal or external beauty to show for. You have no personality and substitute it with spite towards men to cover up the fact that you're women who have no idea how to be women outside of barely having a physical body of one.

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>>37406226
I'll give her a second chance if she swallows her pride and apologizes for the idol culture and friends of the opposite sex comments. I'm honestly more upset about those than the male collabs themselves.
Until then, no

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>>37412334
>simultaneous contempt and appeasement
this is a very funny perspective, thank you for trolling us

[Anonymous No.]

>>37412234
>Hides her characters breasts every stream
>Openly contemptuous towards her gachikoi ("maidenless")
What gives you the impression this woman is even remotely interested in whispering ASMR?

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>>37412340
yeah I will go back to vg, it was only a slight curiosity don't worry.

>>37412378
lol I still think maybe everyone here is just like, roleplaying or some shit because there's no fucking way people get this obsessed but who knows man, I just fucking play games and fap to anime tits. world is fucking weird.

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>>37412473
I'm a retard who forgot important word "WINNLINGLY" from there.

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>>37412389
so.. coomers?
I enjoy a fair dose of women entertainers that I'm not attracted to. I don't need to obsess over their beauty because that isn't what I'm here for!
I appreciate the honesty, though.

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>>37412334
Having watched her for the past 2 months I find it impossible to come to the conclusion that she has any contempt for her viewers. She's always nice, respectful and open when she talks with us.

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I don’t watch kronii but I do remember people talking about during her make collab her personality totally changed and her mic was peaking because of how crazy she was getting compared to how she normally acts (her mic has always been setup for her more normal behavior). Supposedly it was this kind of total personality shift of her going into heat around the males that annoyed people specifically.

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>>37411975
I never masturbated to a Holo nor felt any sort of sexual attraction towards them. I just enjoy the cute girls doing cute things vibe, it's relaxing and brings me a smile after a hard day at work.
Males kinda ruin that vibe and NijiEN is the perfect example of that.

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>>37412650
why not just ignore the collabs then dumbass

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>>37412625
She was probably nervous and drunk. She acted that way in the Polka collab too

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>>37412502
Maybe ASMR is a fun project, it's an interesting skill.

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>>37412571
>She's polite and shows basic courtesy so that means she likes us
This is how people become cucks. Pay more attention to what a person does and how they act and less to what they say. Everybody is a liar, everyone puts on a false front in public.

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>>37412556
Does inspiration and beauty get reduced to 'coomer' for you?

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>>37412795
It's not a skill to whisper lewdly into a KU100. And if we're being honest here ASMR is coomer tier panding only a few steps away from having an OnlyFans. It's not a coincidence that the best ASMR streamer in Hololive also happens to be a popular camwhore.

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>>37412650
no, you WILL watch all the collabs

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>>37412888
Pretty much. If it were otherwise, beauty wolf
>>37412900
I wouldn't agree.

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>>37412723
Kronii centered all her content around Tempiss for a few weeks so unless you disconnected completely it was impossible to avoid. When you need to stop watching 50% of a creators content to avoid shit you dislike the problem is the content, not you.

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>>37412571
we did that for a whole year before she shit on us.

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>>37412288
It wouldn't. You can't please everyone. No other talent restricts their pov while doing collabs for concern of a minority of the fan base. The general fan would ask questions. It would have worsen the culture war and involve the company.

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>>37411546
>for literally no reason other than the pink wigger getting in her head
That has always been a pure cope from Kronies who can't admit that Kronii chose the path herself.

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>>37412900
Isn't something like positive affirmations and heartbeat ASMR more about being comforting and parasocial than pandering to coomers? I know people will jerk off over anything but it doesn't mean it's direct pandering.
>>37413023
If you liked her before the drama you could try to understand her stance better even if you don't agree with it

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii doesn't regret anything. Watch the girls for entertainment. Bullying neurodivergent lonely virgin men to suicide is based as hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37413146
Her stance is one that is literally dragging down viewership. At some point, you have to grow a spine and say she fucked up.

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>>37412571
You guys are as delusional as the rushia fans, I don't even find it funny anymore, rather, I'm concerned.
>>37413134
Both can be true, but I agree that Kronii has always been somewhat shit to begin with. Korean feminists are on a whole new level of toxicity that the average westerner wouldn't believe
>>37413146
The drama is working as a wakeup-call for a lot of people, making them reavaluate. Many won't be coming back even if she actually does a 180 and drop tempiss altogether.

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>>37413125
this is just speculations and tourists doesn't matter, what matters is your core audience, and they were on board.

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>>37413260
She drags down her viewership way more by playing shitty indie games instead of finishing RE8

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>>37413125
>concern of a minority of the fan base
I always find this cope interesting because it's obviously not true. I mean you clearly have some delusions about twitter trannies who love homo collabs comprising the majority of the Hololive fanbase but you can clearly see Kroniis dropoff. Also even female twitch streamers who reveal they have a BF experience viewership loss, it baffles me that you think the core fanbase of Hololive a vtubing agency modeled off "The Idolmaster", people who buy Dakimakuras and Oppai Mousepads are mostly people with active social lives and girlfriends.

You know who Hololive viewers are, I know who they are what is this cope you keep trying to peddle to pretend you're not social refuse like the rest of us?

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>>37412981
not calling you a liar or anything because stuff can be deleted but her page doesn't seem to have a streak of male collabs.

I mean either way just tune out and tune back in like you would with any other long running show that might take a dip in quality or has an arc you aren't enjoying. you're not forced right? its fine and normal to stop watching something you don't like.

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>>37412960
That's an absurd oversimplification, beautiful and inspiring qualities are central themes and concepts in basically all creative works.

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>>37413125
Literally everyone in Hololive does collabs that aren't on their channel, Kronii was infamous among them. You're a fucking retard.

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>>37412723
>>37412911
I was more than willing you tards. But then they started spamming collabs with half of HoloEN, brought a bunch of retarded drama, made shit awkward with beggars spamming SCs and the girls antagonizing their chat. If you were a Kronie it was absolutely impossible to ignore that shit. Things are fine rn but at some point HoloEN was starting to look like NijiEN.
I gotta wonder THO, why should I be the one skipping half of the content and ignore the obvious elephant of the room when HoloEN can just keep doing what they did for over 2 years instead of having the Tempiss boys forced into everything?

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>>37413436
nothing is impossible to ignore, quite literally. that's all on you buddy.

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>>37413357
I don't know Hololive viewers I only know myself. That being said I see plenty of frequent superchatters and tweet repliers with girlfriends, wives, babies, etc.

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>>37413146
>If you liked her before the drama you could try to understand her stance better even if you don't agree with it
What do you mean understand her? it's not a misunderstanding, it's a betrayal, a break of trust when what we had as the most important thing on Kronii's streams were respect for honesty.

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>>37406226
>I genuinely think
You don't. Stop lying

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>>37413495
then the question becomes, why should I ignore at all? won't I be happier dedicating my time to someone who I don't have to ignore? maybe Kronii doesn't deserve my time.

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>>37413387
People did tune back out, why are they required to tune back in after they were treated like garbage by the person they had previously been supporting? That cuck mentality will never improve your life.

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>>37413146
>Isn't something like positive affirmations and heartbeat ASMR more about being comforting and parasocial than pandering to coomers?
Definitely is. That's something you can only get from real partner or gachi baiting ASMR. Of course there are lewder stuff and even straight up audio porn but those go beyond the current topic.

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>>37413614
now you're getting it, nice

>>37413627
this guy tho, he'll get there someday

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>>37413614
just admit you lost the argument

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>>37406226
I haven't watched her but every time I see her in a collab she just drags the mood down

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>>37413666
>now you're getting it, nice
no you dumb faggot, those are the same point.

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>>37413423
women are people, anon, in case you forgot

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>>37413627
>cuck mentality

cuck what nigga it's a fucking youtube bitch lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>37413735
now that I think about it seems pretty straight forward to just leave if I'm not enjoying it

shit

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>>37413680
how did I lose anything? I still have the same arguments and nothing changed, not giving her more chances and going for other vtubers instead are perfectly reasonable takes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37413743
no

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>>37413753
bitches don't realize I would happily raise kronii's brats if there was any chance to give them a normal parent

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>>37413743
You're a lost cause

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>>37413864
yeah, that's fine with me. have a good night

[Anonymous No.]

>>37410745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j13oJajXx0M

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>>37413920
if you think the majority of these streaming whores are capable of getting wed you got another thing coming

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>>37413423
aesthetic philosophy has severely damaged the psychology of young men who conflate attractiveness with beauty
even superficially ugly things are capable of being very beautiful.

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>>37412213
>proclaims himself a proud coomer clipnigger
>calls other people sad.
The lack of self awerness of all these redditors always amazes me.

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>>37414013
I'm not sure where that was implied.

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>>37414075
I think you missed the point. Even this lowly sort things You are sad. How can this man be more lucid than you?

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>>37414036
>ugly things are beautiful
shit skin dyrb

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>>37412213
>ya'll
Mori fuck off back to pleading management to not fire vesper

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>>37413357
Not coping at all or acting as Im on some moral high horse, speaking as one of you. Minority could be unicorn gachi CGDCT.
As not all fans are in same boat on collabs.

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>>37414162
Beauty is not as simple as being aesthetically pleasing, of course. an ugly subject can create a beautiful scene. An ugly action can lead to wonder.

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>>37414075
proud? I'm shameless, I admit I'm just some fucking neet who just jacks off. I'm pretty aware of what I am, lmao. I think being obsessed over some fapbait to this degree is sad, yes. you sure you don't belong on reddit?

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>>37406226
I never gave her a chance since debut. Nothing personnel, kroniekeks

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>>37414217
>not coping
Sure if you say so

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>>37413533
Yes but they don't have silly rules about which collab partner can or cannot appear on their channel

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>>37406274
the fuck even happened?

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>>37413743
So people should not be appreciated for being respectable individuals?

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>>37412723
More content that I don't like means less content that I like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37414458
What? You don't need to appreciate anything, I'm not here to be your dad

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlhQZFTvAn4

[Anonymous No.]

>>37414036
You're mistaken, nowhere did I imply that it was limited to physicality or beauty of a superficial nature. In fact, I value conceptual beauty more than physical aesthetics.

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>>37414148
He's not in a position to be judging anyone, and neither are you.

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>>37414533
Your point? Likable people, or those that have worthwhile qualities are appreciated and gain support and following. And fans are the lifeblood of people in this business.

[Anonymous No.]

>voice actor background
>does content that lets her do different voices and bits
>people invent all sorts of rrats since they are bored

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>>37414715
I'm just here to make fun of you for it. You're metric of "unlikeable" is fucking hilarious.

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>>37414763
brb becoming a voice actor so i can be excused from everything

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>>37406226
>regrets it
>still shits on her fans
dyrbi

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>>37412213
>ya'll
Stop talking like a nigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37414567
Interesting.

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>>37414829
My sense of likable is nothing unique, it is commonplace, found everywhere across almost every culture in their values and teachings.

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Why do meidos let these blatant hate threads stay up? Jesus Christ no wonder there were like 20 threads calling him out yesterday

[Anonymous No.]

>>37415025
Not that guy but ebonics is objectively superior to brit bong gibberish.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37414847
goodluck anon

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>>37412625
She was also swearing regularly out of nowhere. As someone who watched her casually, it was pretty weird since she'd usually self-censor herself before that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37415081
Okay? If anything, that makes it more funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37415119
I get you take it up the ass but no one wants to know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37415225
Why are you making up fantasies about anons ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>37415119
Way to out yourself as a nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>37415119
"you all" isn't brit bong gibberish, it's just normal english retard. half of you faggots saying "ya'll" probably aren't even black/white trash anyway.

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Kek. I remember that when she was critiquing the nature of parasocial relationships, and then was promptly reminded of her dakimakura merch shipping out in the same breath. Also

>looks down on her fans for their "maidenless behavior" and parasocial tendencies
>start using parasocial thumbnails and content again
More like her recent actions reek of damage control.

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>>37415279
so then what's the damn problem. you know what people mean, you just want to act out

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>>37415279
Y'all isn't a black thing, it's a white Southern thing. It's gay as fuck but it's associated with the type of people who lynch blacks if anything.

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>>37415197
Laugh all you want but I'm not the one dumbfounded by the things happening. So I'd appreciate it if your kind stops going 'wtf why are people upset' etc, when it's completely obvious, explaining things over and over gets tiring.

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>>37415404
YWNBN

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>>37415395
>this must be for me!
take a step outside yourself for a minute, maybe two

[Anonymous No.]

>>37415477
You can appreciate that? But it isn't beautiful

[Anonymous No.]

>>37415497
Are you doing this on purpose? The post you replied to is about Kronii.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37411988
>Kronii is a grown ass adult
women dont grow up

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>>37406226
>kill your career my dude
>abruptly braps

[Anonymous No.]

>>37415487
that's true

[Anonymous No.]

>>37415558
It would be beautiful if there could be understanding, but both of us know that's not happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
Nope. Blue woman can get fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
No, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37415670
it's a damn shame.
for what it's worth, I do understand you. Doesn't mean I have to agree or suck you off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37415603
Anti-unicorns and anti-menheras always strike me as the most unhinged mental cases. Every single time they're always incomprehensibly retarded.

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>>37415791
Well, no shit.

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>>37408558
No, it's about controlling other people because you are a toxic person in a parasocial relationship.

This is just rationalization and justification because you don't want to admit you're a bad person doing bad things to people you ostensibly care about.

You guys are like Lennie in Of Mice and Men: you want your pets, but you keep hurting them.

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>>37406226
Nah.

[Anonymous No.]

https://files.catbox.moe/klukp5.webm

[Anonymous No.]

Nope she betrayed me

[Anonymous No.]

No. She had worse coming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37416166
no, it's the pets fault for getting hurt

[Anonymous No.]

>>37407997
Ok now looking that she's coming back with a asmr she's really back pedaling now then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37416357
if she apologizes during the stream, you might have a point
if not, she's doing this for Others, not the ones who want to control her.

[Anonymous No.]

This has to be one of the stupidest "controversies" on the internet. I am baffled that anyone has strong feelings of any sort on this.

I lost 14 IQ points just scrolling this thread, which I cannot afford since 4chan has already dragged me down to double digits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37416579
Who asked?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37416579
I agree, I think I'm going back to twitter, 4chan sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37416757
me, now have some respect for our guest

[Anonymous No.]

i never watched kroni because i dont like koreans

[Anonymous No.]

She's too stupid to reflect on her actions. Too up her own ass to know she even should.

[Anonymous No.]

Well, she chickened out of the stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>37416579
why are you here then, genius?

[Anonymous No.]

heh

[Anonymous No.]

>>37411546
There is a 99% chance that Kronii is more progressive than Mori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406696
did her numbers actually fall when she cucked her fans?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37406226
https://streamable.com/b0jfcp

[Anonymous No.]

>>37412900
Wait, I could be jacking off to the real Faufau?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37416579
Say that again without an elevated heart rate and sweaty palms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37416976
Guess she really doesn’t deserve that second chance

[Anonymous No.]

>>37408416
>>37408465
The duality of man

[Anonymous No.]

No