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37386710 No.37386710 [Reply] [Original]

"Talent Freedom"

>> No.37386747

>Sub goal
>resorting to this
How the mighty have fallen.

>> No.37386798

>>37386710
Who gets off to this?

>> No.37386801

>>37386710
HOT

>> No.37386810 [DELETED] 

Tempiss deflection thread

>> No.37386838

>>37386710
Kson moving up in the world I see

>> No.37386890 [DELETED] 

>>37386810
>NOOOOOO YOU SHOULD'VE MAKE A THREAD ABOUT VESPISS!! FLOOD THE CATALOG WITH VESPISS!!

>> No.37386909

>>37386810
Cope.

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37386943

>>37386710
Yes SEAnigger-kun we know, blue triangle piss tastes better

>> No.37387059
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>> No.37387131 [DELETED] 

>>37387059
>>37386943
STOOOOOOOOOOOP DON'T POINT OUT HOLFANS HYPOCRISY!!!!!!!!!!!!REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE%&@!&$!&#@!#@!$@!!!$!$!$

>> No.37387145

>>37386943
>>37387059
It's unironically OK when a Jap does it.
Joining Vshojo makes you lose your jap status by the way.

>> No.37387169

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGJjkpleEUY

>> No.37387184
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>>37387145

>> No.37387194

>>37386943
>>37387059
HOLY SHIT, you're telling me that Hololive has TALENT FREEDOM TOO? I've been told they have literally NO TALENT FREEDOM!
But you're proving me OTHERWISE!

>> No.37387263
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>>37386710
oh my

>> No.37387265

>>37386943
>>37387059
So if Kson could still do this shit while she was in hololive then why did she leave? What the FUCK is creative freedom

also its unironically okay to do this when you're JP

>> No.37387278

>>37387265
https://streamable.com/g1ecxx

>> No.37387355

Japanese people are sex, regardless of brand

>>37386801 Based

>> No.37387389
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37387389

>>37386710
I will now watch, subscribe and throw bits at your oshi.

>> No.37387390

>>37387265
sea-kun, she never said "creative freedom"
that's just a thing you people made up and have deluded yourselves into thinking is real

>> No.37387430

>>37387390
Kson didn't but Vshoujo did.

>> No.37387466

>>37387430
VShojo said "talent freedom". And you may note that currently all of their talents are free and none are under suspension.

>> No.37387494

>>37387466
oof

>> No.37387543

>>37387466
kek

>> No.37387777

>>37386798
me

>> No.37387877

>>37387265
>unironically okay to do this when you're JP
Can you explain the thought process behind that statement? Do you think their motivations are different? Are they inherently better just because of their nationality? I'm genuinely curious

>> No.37387959

Damn, the stupidity of holokeks has no limits

>> No.37388043

>>37387877
Not him, but I'm pretty sure it's a "yellow fever" kind of thing.

>> No.37388102

>>37387131
Calm down retarded nijisis, vox won't suck your dick if you this menhera.

>> No.37388111

>>37387777
Checked

>> No.37388136

>>37388102
>vox won't suck your dick
yes he will that dude is terminally horny

>> No.37388207

>>37387466
Not poor like kson, that the important part.

>> No.37388264

>>37387877
just some justification on why the blue dorito is faultless at everything they do. a holo can be caught fucking a shota and they'll say it's okay for them to be pedos.

>> No.37388320

>>37388136
Lol you right, he taking vacation probably a stealth suspension fot raping some chink, i saw that in #

>> No.37388504

>>37387877
It's okay when Holo JP does it because they're talented enough to make it entertaining. Vshojo has nowhere near as much talent so it's just crass and sad when they do it.

>> No.37388622

>>37386710
most based thing I've seen today

>> No.37388733

>>37388504
>I don't speak Japanese so I can't tell how whorish their sex jokes are compared to English ones so I pretend that they're better for vague reasons I can barely explain.

>> No.37388762

>>37388504
didn't know that that merely possessing the blue dorito turns you into a talented streamer.

>> No.37388881

Why the fuck do all the vshojo models look like entirely different characters. I didn't even realize this was Kson until she spoke.

>> No.37388964

>>37388881
It's actually the exact same face and base body of her normal 3D model. Just different hairstyle and clothes.

>> No.37389001
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>>37388881
Because you're stupid.

>> No.37389047

>>37388264
>a shota
Yeah, me

>> No.37389056
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37389056

>>37388762
That's the power of competent talent scouting. Shame it doesn't work too well on the EN side.

>> No.37389058

>>37386710
>Vt:"most based"
reality: all you faggot wouldn't even watch her.

>> No.37389063

>>37388111
Check checked

>> No.37389117
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>>37388881
She is not wearing her glasses

>> No.37389146

>>37388964
>>37389001
you two just reminded me we've never seen the default outfit in movement without the shitty shading and post processing
sonchou pls

>> No.37389240

>>37386710
Sorry I came so much

>> No.37389274

>>37389146
It just needs to be ported over to Unity I'd guess.
The coat and baggy pants will also clip like hell, because actual cloth physics don't really work well with Anime style.
It's a cool design, but really hard to make it work.

>> No.37389974

>>37389146
She used it in the same engine before but now with full tracking yet

>> No.37390096

>>37387265
It's puzzling that after all this time people still don't know that.
It's easy, she got tired of being treated like a leper.
No one can deny that they wouldn't even let her collaborate outside of the meme review.

>> No.37393118

>>37387145
>>37387184
rofl

>> No.37393434

>>37386810
TempusCHADs run this board

>> No.37393500

>>37386710
So this is what VTubing is like in 2022? Now I see why people checked out or became decadent over this kind of shit. Not like I'm the one complaining about it though.

>> No.37393528

>>37386798
Lolberts, coomers, and terminally online zoomers.

>> No.37393562

>>37386810
>he thinks the fans are going to suck corporate cock again after firing their 2 top earners
Vesper won
Unicorns lost

>> No.37393563

>>37386710
>whoring yourself for 34 subs
How the mighty have fallen

>> No.37393593

>>37393563
get some new oneliners dude

>> No.37393602

>>37386943
>>37387059
OH NO NO HOLOBRONIES WHAT'S THIS?

>> No.37393618

>>37393593
I would but that would require the whorejos to do something other than whoring themselves

>> No.37393656

>>37387145
>>37387265
Kson is Japanese ya jabronis. Cope
>>37387877
Nothing but delusion. Weebs showing the rest of the community why no one likes them.

>> No.37393695

>>37388504
Care to explain these talents for the rest of us, brony?

>> No.37393724

>>37393563
3400*
Unicorns are a dying breed. VTubing is no different than streaming.

>> No.37393780

>>37386943
On brand and not made cringy by a fuck ton of unnecessary movement and the joke going on way too long
>>37387059
Not even a joke it's just then earnestly trying to be sexy

>> No.37393792
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37393792

>>37393593
>>37393602
>Kson completely embarrasses herself and looks so washed up it's painful
>this shit is a "puppet show and Spinal Tap" moment
>makes Vshojo look like absolute shit
>Vbronies can't stop malding ITT
You love to see it

>> No.37393864

>>37393792
>embarrasses herself
The only one embarrassing themselves is (You), prude

>> No.37393906

>>37393792
keep liking her tweets how her "abs" hurt

>> No.37393952

>>37393656
kson is a larping American

>> No.37394035
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37394035

its funny how numbernigs think that their thread of like 200 indo kids and 10 white neckbeards who do the actual counting is somehow representative of the whole vtubing community

>> No.37394156

>>37394035
/#/ is always happy whenever VShojo succeeds outside Twitch at the expense of the triggered Holofags. Nijisanji has dominated the numbers game since July anyways.

>> No.37394718

>>37388264
>a holo can be caught fucking a shota and they'll say it's okay for them to be pedos.
They don't have to be a holo, or a vtuber period.

>> No.37394837

>>37386710
I'm rock hard

>> No.37395414

>>37389056
whore

>> No.37395594

>>37388264
Being a pedo is based if you're a girl, and moreso if you're hot. Being a big-titty anime girl just makes it better.

>> No.37395702

The only problem I see here is the shitty emotes floating around the screen. Why would you want that?

>> No.37395708

>>37388504
>>37388733
nta, but at the very least hololive isn't a company of whores like VShōjo. Being a whore, and being in a company with whores like Kson, makes you more whorish. In hololive, you have seiso Vtubers and less seiso VTubers, which balance out so that the company as a whole isn't whorish. The least whorish VShojoTuber is still a whore.

>> No.37395755

>>37395702
why do you jabronis think of the most insignificant and trivial things to complain about, it's just emotes on the screen and many people find it amusing

>> No.37395820

>>37395708
>hololive isn't a company of whores
i would like to know what copium you've been huffing because just about everyone in the entire company is corrupted

>> No.37395878

>>37393434
Lmao

>> No.37395971

>>37386810
hololive is dying

>> No.37396041

>>37395820
I'm not saying they're all perfectly seiso idols--I'm not coping that hard. But Vshojo and Hololive are simply on different levels. The base level of Hololive is seiso, or at least mostly seiso, the EN branch aside for the most part. Even the EN branch is nowhere near as bad a Vshojo. But at Vshojo, the base level is low-effort horniness, and seiso is an entirely foreign concept. There's enough seiso in hololive, within the company as a whole and within most of the talents, to keep it from devolving into whorishness. Vshojo shows what happens when that isn't checked.

>> No.37396085

>>37396041
lol if you actually believe this crap then you're unbelievably bluepilled and can't think for yourself because anyone who did their reps know that all of hololive is nothing but a lie, even if it is entertaining in some aspects.

>> No.37396279

>>37396085
>source: it came to me in a dream

>> No.37396303

>>37386710
based

>> No.37396344

>>37396279
stay cucked

>> No.37397418
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37397418

Ksonfags are just... painful to look at...
Is it really so interesting to monitor /vt/ shitposts 24/7? These threads would die in an hour without the three of you bumping them.

>> No.37398497

>>37386710
Yogiri sacrificed herself so that Kson can be a whore on Twitch

>> No.37398813

>>37397418
Tatsunokos have some of the biggest persecution complexes and think their oshi is literally Jesus

>> No.37399637

>>37397418
>Implying I don't know the meaning of 下げる.

>> No.37400139
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37400139

>>37386710
Reminder that the clipfag who posts them is a 95% vshitshow shill and doesn't care about anyone else.

https://twitter.com/ENVTubersOOC/status/1593823067901501441

>> No.37400186

>>37398813
She was unironically the most interesting part of Hololive during the coof boom and when she was taken away for bullshit reasons it's not a coincidence Hololive fell apart gradually as a result.

>> No.37400456

>>37400139
read their bio

>> No.37400506

>>37386710
What in fucks name...

>> No.37400522

>>37386710
What the hell is this. She sacrificed a hololive return to do this? She might as well start doing porn so i can actually fap to something.

>> No.37400556
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37400556

>>37400456
They used to post indies and take submissions but after vshojo happened they only post them all the time now.

They made this tweet after people called them out over kson twerking:
https://twitter.com/ENVTubersOOC/status/1549427417500028928

There's no way they're not on the vshojo payroll.

>> No.37400585

>>37386710
this is the same way a catholic father feels when his son is a troon

>> No.37400624

>>37386710
A reminder she was more entertaining when she had her hololive limiters on, forcing her to think outside the box.

>> No.37400641

This looks like a enema. Hopefully she does a enema soon. The only bad thing about this is that she’s using her Vtuber model and not her real body

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>>37388881
It's part of being in vshojo, they change their models every few months and have limited merch that lasts a week because by the following week it's out of date because of the model.

>>37387466
If their management had just done something about veibae when she was openly going around bashing other companies and other vtubers, maybe they might have been seen in a better light. But they'll still get crapped on for giving pink cat another chance at relevancy.

>> No.37400732

>>37400624
Her Schtick doesn’t work when the people you’re dealing with are IRL whores.

She woulda been better joining Phase Connect or Prism Project. They oversold her on “talent freedom”, when all that means is “we won’t help you fuck off”.

>> No.37400882

>>37396041
Kson behaves exactly the same as she did as Coco.
Anyone else remember the dragon tail butt plugs? the horniness with Marine? Seems not despite how much people fucking loved it at the time. Holos live for the yabs and horny same as every other company, don't ever believe otherwise. One she joined another corp though its like a bunch of them collectively induced amnesia around it so they'd have an excuse to shit on her that wasn't just plain spite.
Its still obvious that's what it boiled down to though: Coco got one of the biggest sendoffs and tribute of any graduation, and the only times anyone cared about her as an indie was to reminisce on the good old days.

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>>37400732
She could have just made her own company. Instead she joined the one company that would have got her more antis, and caused people to sour on her even more, and her room mate to leave her.

Not henry by the way but come on, vshojo kson absolutely fucking sucks. I miss the vkatsu model, shame they had to stop using it. All she's shown is leaving hololive did nothing for her at all.

>> No.37400974

kson's latest schtick seems to be acting slutty as she can be so that garbage EN vtubers out of context twitter account can just clip it and upload it for retweets.

whatever, glad she's not in Holo anymore.

>> No.37400975

>>37400556
>>37400139
who the fuck cares what some twitter rando posts?

>> No.37401098
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>>37400732
Phase would have been a good option, especially since they do shit with Taiwanese companies like the AI stuff. But even then it would have been a headache and would have overshadowed the better shit they have like Pippa and Lia. Would have likely caused issues with fishman "back home" though.

Prism last I checked is still irrelevant even with Sony support. Would have just been making her own 2view group.

>> No.37401158

>>37400732
Joining Pippa's club would have been excellent for her. Both are meme lords who could have synergised with each other, and PC did talent freedom right. What Coco once did for Hololive, Phase is now doing for the small corpo scene.

>> No.37401327

>>37387390
Hol up, wasn't her excuse for graduation "creative differences"

>> No.37401332

>>37400882
>Anyone else remember the dragon tail butt plugs? the horniness with Marine?
Yeah, I remember the things she did with other members. The problem is that it just doesn't work by itself. Her ideas worked because she had people like Kanata, Watame, Marine or Miko around. Now she is stuck with hacks, indies and personally scouted menhera.

>> No.37401639

>>37386710
turns out staying in your lane only works if there's lanes to follow and other people do the same

>> No.37401787

>>37401158
>>37401098
except Fishman is a retard who repeatedly makes baffling decisions where he tells talents they cant do content thats proven to work for them
Coco's leaving was at least partially motivated by getting away from that sort of heavy-handed behaviour, why would she subject herself to a corp where the talents have similar issues?

>> No.37401863

>>37401332
Fucking this. Love her, but god damn her brand of humor is so fucking... dry? simple? she is not different from an episode of Happy Tree Friends, where the laughs came from how the critters died. If that shit didn't do it for you at first, it would never afterwards.

Her humor worked so well as Coco because there were all the others holos bouncing off, it's that simple. She can be as crass and bad mouthed as she wants but at the end, she is just being obnoxious for the sake of jokes rather than let it happen normally. And she doesn't even need to have it as her main focus, her Zatsus are still as good as they were as Coco.

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>>37401787
To be fair things were decent at Phase until very recently when there's been some clampdowns - it went downhill after Lia's CWC stream and Pippa's meet and greet at a con with people asking her about shooting up a Walmart.

Pippa and Lia still managed to do a decent collab last night even if it wasn't CWC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0EwaZwmhsk

At least Phase has gone well compared to the likes of Tsunderia or Prism Project.

>> No.37401997

>>37386943
>deleted
OH NONO

>> No.37402199

>>37400624
>>37400732
>>37400944
>>37400556
Here is a perfect example of how tribalism can blow you away by a terminally retarded person who has no fucking idea what he's talking about, like a kid with down syndrome who got high on paint.

>> No.37402354

>>37401928
>>37401787
Those clampdowns masterminded by xalabussy ultimately failed when I helped bring the situation to the talents themselves, and not only did Pippa admit she was exempt, she fucking broke down as she felt she was being isolated. Still, Lia is an example that ultimately the talents no longer give a fuck about what he says. Pippa is now doing what Coco did before, and after that FlaVR giga kino where she literally founded her own company and it became an instant success she's now potentially the one with the most influence, she just refuses to use it.
Kson with someone like Pippa would have kept the innovative spirit going, instead of being a constant disappointment in Vshitshow.

>> No.37402439
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37402439

>>37402199
Instead of sperging out, make an argument. A lot of people who loved "Coco" don't care for "Kson" for obvious reasons we've already stated.

>> No.37402611

>>37402439
They stopped caring cause Coco’s solo content is trash.
She’s best when bouncing off of a straight man character, like what happened with Kanata or the other JP members.

It’s not like it’s over, SC wise she rakes in dosh.
She needs to back out of Vshoujo they aren’t doing anything for her.

>> No.37402692

enjoyed coco when she was balanced and holding her sexual jokes, and now with no holding back, it's make me disgusting. I'm that guy who loves to see a girl with half naked instead a complete nude whore doing twerking (verification not required)

>> No.37402747

Blue triangle sluts good
Literally any other vtuber company sluts bad
Simple as

>> No.37402834

>>37402439
You haven't argued shit you've just repeated meaningless statements about how its not the same, trust us guys, Kson being horny on main is totally different in a real and absolutely not imaginary cope way from when Marine, Noel, Coco, and all the rest do it. Its ok for her to hump Marine and them to talk about sexual fetishes because Holos have an aura of purity, but Kson doing the same is bad because as a Vshojo she has a whore aura.

>> No.37402861

>>37386710
I'm so glad I can freely talk about how I don't like her now
I had to bite my tongue for almost two years because I would look like I was siding with the goddamn Chinese if I said anything bad about her, and I hate them even more

>> No.37403716

>>37402861
>caring about anonymous opinion of you
oh look, a fucking idiot, most likely redditor

>> No.37403755

test

>> No.37403780

>>37386710
That's pretty funny actually. Sometimes I miss this bitch.

>> No.37403805

>>37386710
that's disgusting

>> No.37403850

>>37403780
>>37403805
the duality of anon

>> No.37403941

>>37387059
Holo girls shaking their japanese asses are relegated to playful summer event thing and not what they do every stream, nice try though

>> No.37403948

>>37386710
who the fuck even is this? it's an amusing use of model and RFA animations at least

>> No.37404045

>>37403948
Formerly the greatest vtuber who ever was.

>> No.37404085

>>37403941
>Holo girls shaking their japanese asses are relegated to playful summer event thing and not what they do every stream
https://youtu.be/hzmimWcN34Q?t=3467

>> No.37404107

>>37400556
>they only post them all the time now.
I takes like two seconds to scroll down and find Bae
Then Calli
Then Gura
Then Kiara

If anything you could shitpost about how they're anti-Niji but even then, they post clips that are submitted to them. So blame the people following the account.

>> No.37404152

>>37388881
>Holofag so faceblind he can't even recognize the same model in a new outfit
Jesus Christ

>> No.37404190

>>37387059
Tasteful
>>37386710
I don't even know what to say about this, man

>> No.37404196

>>37404107
Keep scrolling and you'll find the bias where it's heavily weighted on vshojo clips. You are right about the nijis, they used to do VOMS but then stopped. And stopped being an EN clip account when Rushia went to their favourite company.

>> No.37404304

>>37400643
>If their management had just done something about veibae when she was openly going around bashing other companies and other vtubers, maybe they might have been seen in a better light
Aside from the Vei thing being literally nothing, the people who hate VShojo have always hated VShojo and always will.
They willingly choose to see them in the worst light possible, at every given opportunity, and nothing they do will ever be enough to sway them.

So there's no point in bothering with such people. It's just vtuber console wars, only even more autistic somehow.

>> No.37404369

>>37387059
Rape.

>> No.37404392

>>37404304
>Vei thing being literally nothing
It wasn't nothing though. She should have been reprimanded for a lot and got let off because she's in vshojo.

Bashing hololive and then begging for a Kiara collab? Yeah no wonder she got blacklisted after doubling down. And what happened with Shylily was disgusting as well, all because people got bored of Vei after the constant lack of streaming and dick riding of Sodapoppin. Plus those DMs too...

And let's not forget when people in vshojo get banned on Twitch they instantly get unbanned. Talk about bias.

>> No.37404393

>>37404196
>but even then, they post clips that are submitted to them
At any rate it's just a clip account, either you like the clips or you don't. If you don't, then just ignore the account

>> No.37404476

>>37387184
tsk medicals

>> No.37404575

>>37404304
>nothing they do will ever be enough to sway them
That might be because most of them are ironic Vtubers who actually hate it.
Would you be interested in anime recommendation from ironic weeb on Reddit that doesn't care about anime?

>> No.37404580

>>37387059
>Tasteful fan service of butt shaking while in swimsuits
Vs
>Filling up a cup with piss
Its confirmed Vshojo fags are such low IQ subhumans that they can only see the world in extremes

>> No.37404627

>>37404392
>Bashing hololive and then begging for a Kiara collab?
She willingly gave up that collab (which traded hands to Nyan). I don't recall any "begging" and I also don't remember any "bashing" unless you think anything less than praise is bashing.
The Shylily thing is dead and buried, has been for months. It's beef that only really lived in rrats. She spoke out of turn and clearly it resolved behind the scenes. Let it go.

You get how pathetic it looks to keep holding onto such minor grievances for months and months, right?
For all the vitriol Vei gets, you'd think she did something a lot worse than... this.

>And let's not forget when people in vshojo get banned on Twitch they instantly get unbanned
It's an agency's job to support their talents and help resolve issues like this. You think Holo, Niji, Phase Connect and everyone else don't/won't do the same?

>> No.37404638

>>37393656
Kson is an admitted George born and raised burger that knows nipnog thats it

>> No.37404669

Teampiss runs /vt/ you better take it

>> No.37404702
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>>37404575
>most of them are ironic Vtubers who actually hate it
Could you elaborate on this? What it means, and how you came to this conclusion?
Why would someone be a vtuber if they hate it, especially to the extent that VShojo commit to it (tons of money dumped on models, art, lore videos, etc.)?

>> No.37404708

>>37404392
Management giving thumbs up after Vei landed Sodapoppin solidified my hate for these whores.
Literal stable of whores that pimp themselves out for clout/ccv.

>> No.37404779

>>37404708
Remember that clip when Vei said she'd never talk about boyfriends?

And let's not forget she's not the only one dick riding fleshtubers, pink cat does the same with Aethel.

>> No.37404851

>>37404708
Vei has been a Soda fangirl for years, since way before she became a vtuber
She got with her oshi, she's living everyone's dream

>> No.37405265

>>37404702
>Why would someone be a vtuber if they hate it
I don't know, because they statistically have zero chance of success as a flesh streamer? Because they started when there was very limited English-speaking competition, which gave them the edge, so the risk of losing that initial investment was minimal?

What about their content have convinced you that they like their vtubing self? Talking about personal IRL stuff, constantly interacting with fleshtubers?

>> No.37405610

>>37405265
>Because they started when there was very limited English-speaking competition
You mean before vtubing blew up and became popular?
Are you arguing they predicted that vtubers would become super popular and got in on the ground floor assuming it would pay off?

>Talking about personal IRL stuff, constantly interacting with fleshtubers?
This is it?
Really? This is your hard-hitting evidence that VShojo hates vtubing?
These are things that are not only common, but damn-near universal in the EN side of vtubing.

Does Korone talking about her family or going on those Sonic streams and talking to those dastardly flesh pods mean she hates being a vtuber too?

I'm sorry, but you might actually be the stupidest poster on /vt/.

>> No.37405652

>>37405265
>Talking about personal IRL stuff
Umm if you don't want VTubesr talk about IRL stuff, you basically would have to limit yourself to the Kizuna Ai generation.

>> No.37406166

>>37386710
Seems par for the course for her desu

>> No.37406579

>>37405610
>Are you arguing they predicted that vtubers would become super popular and got in on the ground floor assuming it would pay off?
Most of them started vtubing in mid-2020, few months before Myth debuted. What kind of fucking "prediction" are we talking about? Most of them started most likely after being rejected by Hololive. It was fucking clear it's going to work out good for the people that get into it early.
>Korone
Ah yes, I forgot those Sonic Youtubers and Twitch streamers that she cannot stop chasing,. Please remind me how often has Korone talked about her boyfriends or people that she can't name, and you have no idea what kind of relation they have to her. How often she talked about flesh Youtubers and Twitch streamers she interacted with.

>> No.37407191

>>37404580
Your next line will be:
>It's okay because she's Japanese.
https://youtu.be/Xz6pPCHu4Rk

>> No.37407603

>>37406579
>Most of them started vtubing in mid-2020
Ironmouse 2017
Melody 2019
Zentreya 2017
Silvervale 2019
This is 4/7 of the original roster, so already you are wrong.

Nyan debuted pink cat in July 2020 but had been using free models prior to that
Froot and Hime were new debuts

Vei debuted on April 12, 2020, which is 11 days before auditions for Hololive English were announced.

>It was fucking clear it's going to work out good for the people that get into it early
It was not. Hololive was not the powerhouse it is now in mid-2020. Outside of Japan, vtubing was nothing more than a small niche, and nobody could have expected it to blow up the way it did, let alone allow for indies to flourish the way they have.

>I forgot those Sonic Youtubers and Twitch streamers that she cannot stop chasing
Moving goalposts.
Flesh people are bad if they are also streamers, but good if they're corporate sponsors?
And I guess it goes without saying that there's nothing wrong with Yagoo even though he's also pure flesh.

>> No.37407742

>>37387059
>you see it’s okay when JP does it because they have Hololive next to their name
unicucks participating in mental gymnastics today it seems

>> No.37407923

>>37407191
it's not pee, it's BEER you blind and delusional faggot

>> No.37408142

>>37400944
>She could have just made her own company.
That's so much work, she would basically have to stop streaming. And she loves streaming.

>> No.37408189

>>37388504
>they're talented enough to make it entertaining
So it's never about the bit, only about the execution of the bit. Now I don't disagree.

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>>37402611
>She needs to back out of Vshoujo they aren’t doing anything for her.
They made her recent concert possible, and are the reason it was so well-executed.

>> No.37410773

>>37386710
I just realize how vulnerable she is. Vshojo provide no protection against rumour at all

>> No.37410899

>>37407191
Unironically yes also Kson is a burger born and self admitted this is why its not okay

>> No.37411006

>>37410773
>protection against rumour
How the fuck do you protect against a rumor you fucking idiot

>> No.37411017

>>37386710
didn't Matsuri do this exact same sketch years ago?

>> No.37411366

>>37386710
It's supposed to be funny, not hot.

>> No.37411420

>>37411017
Yes.

>> No.37412041

>>37411006
By having interns browsing social media to surpress it, like Niji

>> No.37413355

>>37410899
ogey
https://youtu.be/aS5mg7hAsv4

>> No.37413454

>>37386710
As gross as she can be, she stood for Chama. And that says more about her than any clip could.

Also when did she got a new model?

>> No.37413657

>>37413454
A while back, she did an idol-style anniversary stream

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>>37413454
A month ago

>> No.37414695

>>37404575
>most of them are ironic Vtubers who actually hate it.

>vshojo hates vtubing
>vshojo girls debut new $10k models so often that the catalog has a monthly new model seethe thread
pick one

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>>37400643
>If their management had just done something about veibae when she was openly going around bashing other companies and other vtubers, maybe they might have been seen in a better light.
You mean the shit she said before she joined VShojo? Yeah VShojo should have totally punished her for that when she wasn't a member of VShojo.

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>>37411017

>> No.37417469

>>37416605
She was bashing shylily as a vshojo talent.

>> No.37417599

>>37417469
Good, that smelly whale needs to be put in her place.

>> No.37418355

>>37417469
She made a single subtweet-ass comment because people kept comparing them
In January

It has been 11 months. They are interacting amicably on Twitter. It is over.

>> No.37418437

>>37387265
>What the FUCK is creative freedom
You misunderstood, she wanted Chinese freedom

>> No.37418586

>>37418437
>Chinese Freedom
You mean Cover corp's Isolation chambers.

>> No.37419523

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMVXlu7SzZY
>Cover made some spammers into mods instead of banning them (small company, please understand)
>Coco made her chat was members only, spammers bought membership
>Coco was banned from collabs because they would spam the chat of any stream with her in it
>this happened in each and every stream, for 6 months
>Because she said a word that's forbidden in China
Anyone who thinks she left specifically to be a V-shojo whore doesn't know what they're talking about

>> No.37421809

>>37404152
Nah, more like why this nobody on catalog and clutter up the board.

>> No.37422242

>>37405610
Nta, i can understand IM love for vtubing, she sick and she watch anime and love the medium and use it to project her ideal image in vtubing.

But vei have nothing of sort other than a streamer who use anime avatar. Take that out she just another soda cocksleeve fleshstreamer.

>> No.37422476

>>37414695
They hate vtubing but the only thing to be relevant and generate income, are just by spamming new model instead of better content.

Kek

>> No.37422534

>>37421809
>>37422242
>>37422476
Why are butthurt about Kson/Vshojo posters always ESL? Literally every single one. It's weird.

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>>37386710
Who even cares about this literally who anymore? Kshit is dead and forgotten

>> No.37424563

>>37422878
Good morning numberESL, the clip is actually from your thread.

>> No.37426824

>>37386710
quality

>> No.37428120

>>37387194
"There could be TALENT FREEDOM anywhere". The cool AC felt good against his bare chest. "I HATE TALENT FREEDOM" he thought.

>> No.37430549

>>37422534
>"muh freedom expression"
Kek

>> No.37433673

>>37419523
nobody has ever said so, and you thinking it only proves that all kson fags are fucking delusional.

>> No.37434360

>>37386710
Creative freedom depends on the culture you're appealing to. Overt lewdness, especially by characters displaying many childlike traits to appear cute, do not fly in the modern West.at all.

>> No.37434448

>>37434360
The definition of creative freedom is also very subjective. In Vshojo, for example, creative freedom means being lazy and doing nothing creative.

>> No.37435380

>>37388264
Anon, they're specifically saying Japanese women, not Hololive.
I bet these same people shit on HoloEN and support NijiJP as well

>> No.37435849

>>37433673
So Anons aren't posting ITT about Creative freedom and Coco wasn't harassed by chinks?
That's good to know, Silly me

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>>37386710

>> No.37437713

>>37386710
If you don't have a piss fetish you should kill yourself

>> No.37438819

Since when did Talent freedom become Creative freedom. is this some sort of chink telephone game? Is it going to evolve into whore freedom next, or would that language be too strong and subtract too much from their social credit?

>> No.37442343

>>37387777
This guy

>> No.37442487

It's just a preview of what she'd have done in hololive if she could get away with it.

>> No.37442544

>>37387059
>HAVE YOU SEEN MY BOOBS? BUTTS ARE OKAY BUT LOOK AT MY BOOBS.
Noel is a genuinely sad fucking person, her tits are her entire 'personality', despite being a millionaire she somehow ended up having nothing going for her. Financial security, spiritual poverty.

>> No.37442632

>>37438819
Anon, people have been posting "creative freedom" long before VShojo hung up their dumbass "talent freedom" poster, and long before even kson joined them. If anything its the other way around and VShojo adapted the already existing meme. As for "creative freedom", probably just came from kson whining about creative differences and everyone making fun of her for not doing anything creative since she went indie.

>> No.37442638

>>37386710
MY DICK

>> No.37443908

>>37442632

Sure, and the point is that those people are all sub-human ESL retards. Coco's "creative differences" with Cover is that Cover wanted her to basically just play Minecraft every day by herself while never getting any kind of promotion or collab opportunities. She's a 1000x happier now than she was at Cover, and for good reason.

>> No.37444997

>>37442632
>kson whining about creative differences and everyone making fun of her for not doing anything creative
That's because she left because she got put in a banishment room and "creative differences" was made up to sugarcoat the real reason to protect her friends.

>> No.37445632

>>37442632
>creative freedom
Isn't it actually "creative differences", which is just PR talk for, "management and I wanted different things, so I left"

>> No.37445643

>>37442544
You just described Marine actually. Her entire personality is boobs and butt

>> No.37445678

>>37386710
This is not funny, so this is what it's like when Kson is unleashed....

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>>37434360
>Overt lewdness ... do not fly in the modern West

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>> No.37445894

>>37445708
>>/vt/image/FToiMtAGGkGj4-2zrbFmrQ

>> No.37445958

>>37386710
Gawr Gura in Hololive did exactly the same but make it look like she is got shit coming from her ass, what is your point?

The proof:
https://youtu.be/gb4UUa5Uwpk?t=8874

>> No.37445974

>>37445643
Are you even looking at the webm you fucking imbecile? All the other girls were showing off their asses and noel was trying to substitute tits for ass because she has no ass and tits are all she has.

>> No.37446057

>model is sex as fuck
>uses it to make futanari jokes
K-son, I....

>>37387059
>girls showing off their asses
>vs.
>being a futa and cumming buckets
I wonder which is more fucked up. Vshojotards are literally retarded, you are the reason porn should be banned because you can't tell the difference between marine in a bikini talking about Brad Pitt's dick and K-son growing a dick and getting fucked by black guys while knocking up Kanata with her futa cock. Like fuck.

>> No.37446131

>>37445974
>headcanon
Why are ichimi so retarded?

>> No.37446190

>>37445643
This. Noel was just talking about the five star stories, Marine only talks about retarded coomershit and fujo bait trash like HxH. Her entire personality is tits, ass and being a gross fujo.

>> No.37446260

>>37446190
Didn't Marine drop out of high school?

>> No.37446308

>>37446260
Yes she is fucking retarded, which explains her personality

>> No.37446323

>>37386710
I'm glad I dropped her a long time ago

>> No.37446359

>>37446057
>literal whoring, a paywalled stream with literally no point except to show tits an ass
>vs
>making a joke while playing a video game
Wonder which is more fucked up lol

>> No.37446401

>>37446359
Body fluid shit is worse than tits and ass.

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>>37446401
>vshojo derangement syndrome
Drink some Holopiss and lighten up

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>>37446401
Marine also talks about gross body fluid shit

>> No.37446541

>>37386710
She have fallen so low into twitch-thot territory im fucking glad I peaced out when she joined Vshojo.

>> No.37446542

>>37446430
Matsuri and Marine belong in vshojo

>> No.37446654

>>37446430
>>37386710
>>37446507
All equally revolting

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>>37446542
>one of Hololive's founding members does not belong in Hololive

>> No.37446815

>>37446541
Actually twitch thots do this >>37387059

>> No.37446874

>>37386710
>cheating in a fitness game
What a stupid

>> No.37446995

>>37446430
>Matsuri did an instance of piss humor 2+ years ago
>Vshojo does piss, shit, and cum humor constantly every single day on a scale that would make Matsuri's jaw drop
>implying these two things are comparable
Kek. Why are Vbronies so desperate for validation? Vshojo is the absolute gutter of vtubing and there's nothing you can do to improve its reputation when the members of Vshojo themselves are working tirelessly to drive its reputation ever further and further into the gutter. You can't win.

>> No.37447003

>>37446778
Matsuri is not one of Hololive's founding members

>> No.37447137

>>37447003
She is the 5th member to debut

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>>37446995
>Kek.
omegalul

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>>37447983

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>> No.37449031

>>37388733
>You have to understand Japanese to know that someone shaking their butt is less crass than someone making the visual implication of emptying their vagina/butt of cum
Are Hololive antis really this desperate?

>> No.37449078

>>37449031
>emptying their vagina/butt of cum
That was her semen from her K-cock anonchama

>> No.37449227

>>37400186
Woah Redditor spotted, go back

>> No.37449413

>>37449227
He's right. Half of Hololive is too lazy to even stream nowadays. EN is in shambles.

>> No.37449941

>>37405610
>>37405610
>Talking to people in a professional sponsorship setting is the same as dick-sucking YouTube/Twitch male content creators
God you are a fucking disingenous retard
>>37407603
Yeah because flesh male streamers are not held to the same professional standards as PR people from SEGA, while Yagoo is held to the standard of representing Cover corp

In fact you have no gotcha, you are a retard that thinks you are smart

>> No.37449984

>>37449078
I do not see a cock in those spats

>> No.37450101

>>37449984
It's called tucking

>> No.37451881

>>37446541
Who is she?

>> No.37451975

>>37451881
Houshou Marine

>> No.37452097

>>37449413
>Vshojo: someone doesn't stream
She has the freedom to not stream
>Hololive: someone doesn't stream
She is fucking lazy for not streaming

Just admit, you guys are retarded and nobody watch you excepted to coom.

>> No.37452107

>>37386710
>if i put it in quotes it means bad
Of all the ways you could have done this you go with quotes. Quotes are often used to imply something is the opposite of the claim or a half hearted or token effort being passed as a legitimate one , talent freedom is exactly whats on display in your webm, you dumb nigger.

>> No.37452296

>>37446057
>futanari jokes
Anon, the joke is that it looks like she's pissing, you fucking retard

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>>37452097

>> No.37452406

>>37449941
>not held to the same professional standards
Good, they shouldn't be.
Why is that a problem for you?

>> No.37452567

>>37446507
And that's why JP management is based for whipping her into not doing it.

>> No.37452738

>>37394156
Are we following the same threads?

>> No.37452798

>>37452097
>>Hololive: someone doesn't stream
>She is fucking lazy for not streaming
Are people STILL defending Sana and Ayame?

>> No.37452823

Everyday I thank China for helping the hololive and the world.

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>>37452823

>> No.37452927

>>37452823
Bugmen deserve to be sprayed with raid, or jump onto an escalator made by them.

>> No.37453139

>Melody doing a porn
>nobody gives a fuck

Matsuri doing a piss joke about 2 years ago
vwhores talking and doing this shit all the time

>> No.37453262

>>37453139
Melody does tasteful fanservice.

>> No.37453494

>>37453139
>Matsuri doing a piss joke about 2 years ago
I had no idea this happened, thanks. Now i'll never let you live this one down.

>> No.37453677

>>37387059
I’m still mad they toned down the swimsuits

>> No.37453730

>>37452296
>omg I'm nutting
too stupid even for vtubers, eh anon?

>> No.37454117

>>37453730
I never saw the clip with sound until just now

At any rate
Who fucking cares

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>>37387265
Good God, I totally forget that the majority of Talent Freedom shitposters weren't around for her graduation and think that Coco graduated over Creative Differences and not because Cover was actively fucking her over in order to get her to leave.

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