From an inside source.

[Anonymous No.]

So apparently he sexually harassed another talent and now being questioned by the company and authorities. Did something happen recently to him that made him do it? Any vesties here to explain?

[Anonymous No.]

Source: My ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
strange. my inside source tells me they found out that he really is a vampire

[Anonymous No.]

Source: My dick

[Anonymous No.]

>inside source (/vt/)

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
Probably withdrew their consent to get something out of ves but failed

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
Calling the voices in your head an "inside source" is a weird way to phrase it but isn't wrong I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

Very funny anon, but seriously tho I really want to know what happened. Normally they'd just do it internally but they fkin announced it like he's gonna get terminated after the 2 weeks.

[Anonymous No.]

OP: *reads random conspiracy theories on /vt/*
OP: "sources"

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
It's time for your meds OP

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
That's just a normal day in Hololive.
They had a manager who raped half of their JP talents for the span of 8 months and they did nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

kroniibros...

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383702
Yes.
t. Magni

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
Source: My balls

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383826
yeah he's not coming back

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
Yeah I heard the exact same thing. Honestly not even surprised that those Tempiss fags turned out to be sex pests and creeps.
If anything it's more surprising that it took that long for a suspension to happen lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder which girl he sexually harassed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383826

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384146
Your mom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
>yab so bad he's being questioned by authorities
I want to believe

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384146
My bet is Ina
Her hiatus announcement was probably due to her being creeped out by this guy trying to get into her panties

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384146
JP statement implies that whatever it was, it happened multiple times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
Meds onegai

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
I had a feeling that he was going to end up as some sort of sex pest. Seen a lot of his type before, lonely older nerd given a sudden surge of popularity and fame. Basically another Arcadum except in vtuber form.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384146
Gura
Though her probably just said hi on discord and she went nuclear

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
>inside source
yeah inside your ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
Source: my uncle who works at Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384442
Based goob

[Anonymous No.]

He a trumper!

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384146
He tried to shoot for the stars and tried one of the JP girls that's why the statement came out in japanese first

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384072
If he doesn’t come back it’ll be a very bad look on the branch and it might die. I doubt they’re firing him/letting him walk

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384760
>it might die
God I wish

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
looking at /mans/ for rrats is not an inside source

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
My inside source tells me he went on a murderous rampage at hololive HQ and was only stopped when Yagoo offered to blow him personally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384997
>/mans/
/mans/ would not cope with such thing. They would downplay it at every possible situation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383826
Since it coming from cover themselves and not holoen management, it probably something to do with his contract, he could be babbling on his rm or accidentally use his main account to contact non approved people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384172
OH NYO!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>visits magni irl
>immediately put on suspension

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384722
as far as bullshit speculation goes,the fact that the first statement was in japanese despite it being about the EN branch does have something interesting to say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
Let me guess he harrased mating press.
Can't blame him but still he should have resisted the urge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384442

[Anonymous No.]

>>37385572
jej

[Anonymous No.]

>>37385572
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>37385572
Based Goombers

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384722
He thought Polka would be easy mode but led with "the bigger the cushion..."
also check'd

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384172
Huh, what was that ? I didn't remember this

[Anonymous No.]

>>37385145
It's just him being a bit too stubborn:
"Notice.
Due to some inappropriate and disruptive behavior in the production, "Noir Vesper", a member of "Holostars English", will be suspended from all activities for two weeks starting today.

Please understand that there is a possibility that this may affect the previously announced distribution and other activities."

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384172
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384172
10/10

[Anonymous No.]

>>37385572
Vesper should be the one initiating conversation

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384146
>girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>37385572
Nice try, but
>omega
>caring about gura
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384146
Me

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
he raped magni during the off collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
Are you guys really believing what a woman says about sexual harassment inn 2022? Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37386145
They fear his white maleness

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384760
>it’ll be a very bad look on the branch and it might die
A light that will banish the darkness

[Anonymous No.]

>>37385572
Based shart

[Anonymous No.]

>>37388049
No, but if it's used against Homo I'm willing to let it slide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37388049
I once helped a chick to get a guy fired for sexual harassment just because I didn't like him

[Anonymous No.]

>>37388049
misogynistchama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>37388049
there is nothing to believe, because nothing has been said. retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>37385572
"Hey Gura, damn shame that new PC of yours got bricked, I could fix it for you for a price...."

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384146
Gura at mori party

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
He raw dog Kronii when he said he'd wear a condom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37388049
are you retarded enough to think what anon said is even true

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383826
My guess is that he repeatedly attacked management and tried to rile up other talents against them.

He is older and he worked in IT, he's not used to being abused by managers and has low tolerance for their bullshit.

He will probably graduate voluntarily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
he groomed Axel

source: I made it the fuck up

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
if thats true and the other talent is a woman, they should be asking her instead, because most if not all of them are menhera and extremely manipulative.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
>From an inside source
More like from inside your ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37388931
>if thats true
Come on now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
>Source: it came to me in a dream

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384146
>girl
he is a homo. not in the meme sense, like he is actually and unironically a homosexual.
since this happened right after the offcollab with Magni, he would be the only one he could have #METOOed
but i doubt that, the only one i could actually see harassing someone is Axel

he propably offended some manager when he accidentally used the word "taiwan" or some shit

[Anonymous No.]

Can't believe Ves raped Magni

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384146
Magni isn't a girl

[Anonymous No.]

Vesper raped Kevin Nash in the sweltering Summer of 1992

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
He rode his bike around town and molested schoolgirls.

[Anonymous No.]

He asked for my nudes and i reported him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37389330
KWAB

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
>From an inside source.
*From the voices in my head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383826
The same thing happened with Aloe. Announced 2 week suspension. She decided to leave after the 2 weeks, even though they were happy for her to continue streaming

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
I just read the notice and figured he sent a dick pic to Gura or aomething

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384172
翻訳??

[Anonymous No.]

>>37389492
There was also major harassment in Aloe's case and it was more of a personal decision because she didn't want to deal with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37389597
Yeah, I was in those pictures.

[Anonymous No.]

Actual insider here. He kept posting that pic of the pig with poop on its balls in the Discord even after being warned not to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37389721
Based if true

[Anonymous No.]

>>37389652
偽物です。ジョーク。まふまふがルシアに送るメッセージと同じ

[Anonymous No.]

>>37389793
ガイジガイジ外人.fucking retard forignirs

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
You did great my beloved apprentice

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
>Slams Magnus ass
>Claims is was a bit
>Gets suspended
Magni was jealous that he didn't admit to slapping his homies ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384236
I mean the rrat could work. Vesper saw his chance during the production of the halloween collab song. Been harassing her for attention and has been getting more and more aggresive.
And now she's been gone for a month talking with her lawyer and recently presented the evidence to cover so this can be investigated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
You know. I find it odd a certain roommate suddenly decided to end hiatus and start making content again in January.
It's like the certain someone knew the Holostars EN ship was about to sink......

[Anonymous No.]

>>37388594
Did the exact same thing once. Luckily I had a witnessed case of the guy being racist to me so it was an easy termination. I didn't even like the bitch and knew damn well she was having a woman moment and overreacting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37387966
No risu, not you…

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676

When holostars EN contains a cringy rage gamer, an anti who collabs more with problem talents outside hololive, a bad mouth aussie simp and a generic salaryman 2 view lottery winner...

there is one among the list I did not expect any behind the scenes trouble from and he's the first on the chopping block LMAO what the fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>37389835
Learn English before you call anyone retarded, friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37388594
>>37390372

I really didn't need to know this.
Unironically the most morally reprehensible thing I've read here for a while.
Psychopaths.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37389848
HOLY BASED

[Anonymous No.]

>>37390693
The guy was an obnoxious dirteater. I regret nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>37389848
What gets me is that even his model looks like a rapist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37390881
I don't mind isolating and fucking over assholes, I mind the route you were taking to do so. I have female colleague who's completely rotten. But I wouldn't take a shortcut which degrades implicit societal trust further. I will never be complicit in the planned divide & conquer of the ruling class.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
>So apparently he sexually harassed another talent
uh based?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37390973
>I will never be complicit in the planned divide & conquer of the ruling class
the supermarket manager tough on you?

[Anonymous No.]

Care to explain, Vesties?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37391049
Close.
I'm the guy who'll fuck with your software if you piss me off.
And I'm the guy who'll investigate who was fucking with your software as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37391151
why the fuck do you type like batman

[Anonymous No.]

>>37391288
He’s the hero vt needs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37388594
You pretty much gave her power to get you fired as well, truly 200IQ move.

[Anonymous No.]

Huh. Honestly thought that Magni or even Altair were going to be the first ones getting busted trying to put their dicks on a Holo. Shows what I know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37391151
So help desk?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37391552
It’s better this way. Grandpa FaggotPire potentially harassing or getting into conflict with coworkers or management is way better. Considering he’s supposed to be some harmless turbo autist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37391650
A bit "higher up" than that.
I actually get to do cool projects and make a difference and stuff most of the time. Few tickets make it up to me. If I had to talk to other colleagues all day, help them figure out really dumb shit, I'd probably kms or NEET it up kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37388049
No one knows what really happened but if it gets rid of homos I'm all for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37391673

True. Though, on hindsight, the "harmless turbo autist" being the first one getting caught trying to use his pen on the company ink is not that surprising. See: Arcadum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37391792
Do you think Vespir too, fears his power when he plays Among Us?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37391792

Oh, and nobody is going to believe that it wasn't that anyways no matter what Cover does so we get nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

Why would he go for any of the girls? He's a gay hag, clearly he was caught having a 50-shades-style sexual affair with his manager, who was fired after he was found making advances towards this shy IT autist, leading to internal reorganization and investigation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37386145
That's probably it. Dude's a grown ass man and lifelong wagie in a field where malicious compliance and quiet rebellion are survival traits who has already openly and repeatedly done things that management has specifically told him not to. Given that the missive came from the jp side I'm guessing they tried the same restrictive bullshit with the boys that they've gotten away with doing to the girls (Gura being consistently fucked over by management, the Niji collab ban, general Japanese fuckery, etc.) and he decided not to kowtow. That or he lost control and dove face first into Kronii's big, fat ass. One or the other.

[Anonymous No.]

>Kiara wanted to participate in the Bad End Night cover
>Every role is already assigned and difficult to replace...
>Except Vesper's role
>Proceed to trap him into a yab
>Now she wait patiently for Axel to ask if anyone want to replace Vesper for the sequels song
rate my rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384172
LOOOOOOOOOOOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>37392094
2/10 atleast try a bit harder

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384146
>girl
he's gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384172
Nodoka-chan don't look...

[Anonymous No.]

>>37392200
>>37392016
>gay
Is this new temsisters cope?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383860
Ahh yes, the Fox News method of reporting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37389999
....really? Nobody checked these quads.

This oldfag is disappointed in all of you.

Checked, btw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37392415
Why did you do it, Vesper?

[Anonymous No.]

LMFAO I love this thread

[Anonymous No.]

I can't believe Vesper sent eighty five pics of his naked cock to every single Hololive Member

Source: My dad is Yagoo

[Anonymous No.]

>>37392273
I followed his channel around the time he played the Pokemon TCG gameboy games and before he nuked it all for the Twitch experiment
he is aggressively gay, my bet is that he was flirting with Magni too much while they were working on this year's full gen HoloTempus song and management got pissed when someone translated what he was saying

[Anonymous No.]

>>37391288
>heh
>watch it bub, i can turn on the windows update notification behind your back
>hell, if im really angry, ill clear your browser cookies and autofill passwords
>hope you remembered what was behind those black dots, bitch

[Anonymous No.]

I can't believe the 4chan oldfag was the first Stars to get hit with a suspension. kek

[Anonymous No.]

What surprises me is that Vesper, who is largely pretty wholesome and based, gets in trouble, yet Magni fucking Dezmond who is an absolutely degenerate furfag who parades his gross fetish around in every single stream and is constantly sexualizing animals gets a free pass and never gets in trouble for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37392094
> sequel song

retard/10

[Anonymous No.]

>>37392094
>kiara
>interacting with males
1/10

[Anonymous No.]

>>37392295
Fox wouldn't dare go near the hakcer known as 4chan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37392606
They all loved his pictures, but he didn't send any to Kiara and she got jelly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
It's time to go to bed, Senator Armstrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384146
Towa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37392079
I need koikatsu porn of Vesper railing Kronii now. Watamage, get on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37392816
This is what makes me think management couldn't handle a male that has gone through the wagie gauntlet and survived.

[Anonymous No.]

Vesper Noir raped and killed a girl in 1990

[Anonymous No.]

>>37392939
That's understandable, then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
nonsense, my inside sources said he got suspended 'cuz he's black

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
>From an inside source.

Your schizo delusions are not a source.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37392016
Vesper called his manager “nothing more than some whiny, twinky chink” and that he could “powerclean his body for reps while licking his yellow asshole for reps if he wanted to.” On one instance he even claimed that he would, “weld his manager into a town bicycle” after being scolded. To him, this is just banter with a mix of frustration, but to his manager, there was a great fear that something may have been slowly awakening inside of him, and he had to pull the brake before he starts buying dildos to put up his ass…

[Anonymous No.]

>>37385145
>>37386145
The untranslated JP announcement states he was suspended for recurring inappropriate speech and conduct that inconvenienced others. A native JP speaker on another site discussing this further added that the term translated to "suspension" carries with it the meaning of having him self-reflect and moderate his behaviors. Given that Vesper has admitted in members streams to getting in trouble in past jobs for the way he would talk to coworkers, mainly cutting them off and coming off as a condescending ass, I would say that this
>>37392079
rrat is closest to what actually happened. If he's getting dinged for this stuff at EN companies, he's sure as hell gonna get heat for a pattern of the same behavior at a JP workplace, where deference and respect to management is very important.
Then again, if he did get a face full of Kronii's dumpy he should just cut his losses and graduate. Nowhere to go but downhill from that experience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383826
He accepted a Mario Party collab invitation from Mori and got the last place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37393394
>JP workplace
The EN branch isn't a Japanese workplace, Anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
this is true, my uncle works at holo and told me this too

[Anonymous No.]

>>37393199
My source backs this up. Yagoo found out a while ago and lost his shit. The 2 weeks are actually part of a racial acceptance program where Yagoo and Vesper have to hang out together

[Anonymous No.]

>>37390372
>>37388594
retards

[Anonymous No.]

>>37393394
Papa Vesper said the gamer word too many times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37393511
Nintendo America is a Japanese workplace

[Anonymous No.]

>>37388594
>>37390372
like kikes outing fellow kikes to the gestapo

[Anonymous No.]

>>37393854
>that analogy
Ah, of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
>>37383676
There should have never been a HomoEN branch. A bunch of sad, nerdy guys like us getting to work under the same company as a bunch of girls that he probably fapped over was just a recipe of disaster. My headcannon is that he was the one that showed the photo of Mori's Ds to his genmates and one of them reported it/let Mori knew he leaked it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37393909
but i like funny mustache man

It's just funny cause the faggots dont get how theyre fucking themselves in the end like the aforementioned kikes

[Anonymous No.]

>>37393926
>Ds
Looked more like DD to me, but whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37385572
True and real

[Anonymous No.]

He probably said the soft n word and somebody (*cough* SHITNI *cough*) clutched their pearls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37393926
he's a geriatric faggot though

if sexual misconduct was involved it's most likely the magni thing since everyone saw that

[Anonymous No.]

>>37390372
I thought being brown would give you thicker skin

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383826
Did something actually happen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
There will be no peace until all male cancer is purged from HoloEN. This was just the beginning, others will fuck up sooner than later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
He said ‘nigga’ in casual conversation once and Mori got jealous because she wasn’t allowed to do the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37384172
seriously though A-chan would be a crazy catch
S-tier executive with a popular public persona

all you need is for A-chan or yourself to have a sister that can carry the baby since A-chan is too busy for birthing

[Anonymous No.]

>>37388461
>I hate something until I can use it as a weapon against people I hate
Pop off king

[Anonymous No.]

she knew
but why didn't she stop it from happening?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
>So apparently he sexually harassed another talent
That other talent? Me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
Knowing him he probably threatened to send manager-san a picture of his bare ass if he couldn't do something and then actually did it.

[Anonymous No.]

Vesper fucked magni in the off collab. Magni then bragged about it to Mori who then told Altare. Altare being the spiteful jealous fag because he wanted his anus to be stretched and prolapsed by vesper veiny cock, called cover and told them. And now we're here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383826
This is just a guess but maybe he made a joke that went too far or something of the sort

[Anonymous No.]

>>37385572
retarded chumbuds will call this based but the truth is that their oshi goes to houseparties with the whore of nippon and lets guys run a train on her

[Anonymous No.]

>>37394758
she supposedly knows everything and yet stops none of it from happening

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395014
Just like your god.

[Anonymous No.]

From kronii therapist to kronii the rapist...

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395047
God tests us by looking at how we respond to difficulties. Removing them would defeat the purpose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395047
what do Asians even believe in

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395091
Why does he need to test you if he already knows how you're going to respond?

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395190
You can't judge someone for something until they do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395140
some foxes and shiet

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395140
Authoritarianism, hierarchy, patriarchy, maybe some animism or alchemy, rape, you know, the usual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395203
Only because (You) don't know if they're going to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395307
no, morally you cannot penalize someone for something they haven't done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395332
Yes you can, it's called precrime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37392079
Kronii has big fat tits, anon. Tits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395377
In modern society planning to commit a crime is itself a crime. If someone is planning a murder and gets caught beforehand, you cannot judge them as if they had already done it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37388886
I worked many IT jobs and I can tell you that you can get shitty management in IT too especially if you are a specialist higher up the chain.

I will say that at the same time if you are a specialist you constant fight with other management and push back on bullshit if some paper pusher tries to make you do something stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395401
lel look at this genius who can't see into the future like everyone else

[Anonymous No.]

We will only get an idea in 2 weeks time:
>if he returns and explains what happened, even if it’s vague like “I said something stupid and regretted it immediately” it was a nothingburger edgy joke
>if he returns and doesn’t explain what happened, then he clashed with managers or other talent over some decisions and this was a warning to get in line
>if he doesn’t return, then he tried to slide into someone’s DMs and they reported him to management

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395074
>Kronii actually got Vesper cancelled and that bit wasn't a joke
I hate Kronii so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395332
Except if you create someone knowing exactly how they are going to act at every turn including sin then you made them just to eternally condemn them to suffering. That's evil.

And that's not even true. Original Sin? Killing all the firstborn? Don't say "but Jesus so it's different now" because that's still thousands of years of people, especially children and infants pre-baptism, condemned over something they didn't do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
I can't believe old man behaved like an old man

[Anonymous No.]

>>37394758
Because she isn’t thin skinned enough to let boomer humour offend her

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395472
Well maybe those babies shouldn't have been born to the wrong group.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395472
>Except if you create someone knowing exactly how they are going to act at every turn including sin then you made them just to eternally condemn them to suffering. That's evil.
If you watch a soccer game then travel back in time to the day before, you know what will happen but you aren't compelling anyone to act in a certain way.

I'm not Christian so I don't really know about the references you mentioned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395378
>he thinks Kronii doesn't have a massive ass as a counterweight to her massive tits

[Anonymous No.]

My suspension is bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

NO REGIS STREAM TODAY
NO AXEL STREAM TODAY

WORKERS RIGHTS

WE ON STRIKE NOW

[Anonymous No.]

>>37391054
I can't believe he tried to murder Kiara... well kinda understand it

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395527
But god isn't just "watching a socxer game", he's omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. He CREATED the soccer game, created all the exact environmental conditions to produce specific outcomes, a bunch of players to act in exact ways that he already calculated beforehand, then told the losing team that they're going to be taken out back and shot for failing to win.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395527
nta but christianity is really a test where they tell you two things that logically can't both be true and then you're either expected to witlessly accept it or doublethink yourself into believing contradictory statements, and if you reject this then you're ostracized

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395572
Oh no your memberships will sustain you while you have a two week vacation to nap or something.
Suspending YouTubers should have stopped with Machinima, That Guy with the Glasses and Rooster teeth. It's such a gay concept that does nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395611
That's not how it works. Read more or shut up about the topic it's not an interesting one anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395611
Comes down to a difference in philosophy then. For me, I don't think God being omniescient and people having free will are mutually exclusive things. It's reasonable that God makes someone and gives them free will but knows what they will choose to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395668
>Read more
I thought you weren't a christian and didnt know any of the references. Maybe you should read more, because that's exactly how it works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37388049
my brother in christ
dramasisters ARE the women

[Anonymous No.]

>>37395593
If Stars + a couple of the allied girls like Mori don’t stream this weekend in protest, this will confirm the suspension is for a dumb reason and not anything serious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>37383676
shit, all jokes aside i really hope that’s not the case bc that’s pretty damn serious

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>>37395676
If he's omniscient and omnipotent in youe framework, then he's evil. Creating someone only to assign them eternal damnation and suffering for finite sins knowing full well that they will be damned is evil.

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>>37395804
>only to assign them
we clearly disagree on this point since you think God "assigns" people a fate and I think people choose their fate but God knows what they will do beforehand.

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>>37395676
>free will but knows what they will choose to do.
Either free will means something different to you or he doesn't give then free will.

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>>37395593
Oh no.. Anyway

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>>37383676
In all honestly its likely a combo of his IT background making him standoffish/ disrespectful to work with and his inability to keep his mouth shut about insider baseball topics such as stream planning bit creation and other things.

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>>37395827
>God "assigns" people a fate and I think people choose their fate but God knows what they will do beforehand.
This is nonsensical.

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>>37395834
If I know someone really likes chocolate chip cookies and I offer them a chocolate chip cookie I know they will take it but they still have full agency of their decision to eat it or not.

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>>37395804
They choose eternal damnation. But really a better way to interpret God's omnipresence/omniscience is that God is subsistent Being itself. Aka the reason life and universe exists and continues to exist through time. You can derive everything else from that.

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What course of action are you hopeful for? Mine is:

>He was suspended unfairly
>The other boys notice this and also don't stream for 2 weeks as a form of protest
>Things escalate as people start asking questions.
>They end up leaving because too much bullshit, and Holopro abandons the idea of making another StarsEN group.

Bonus points if the suspension is because of something they have let girls get away with

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>>37395834
Having free will isn't the same as being unpredictable
I cannot influence what decision my friend's father will make, but I know he will be drinking tonight

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>>37395907
No, you don't know if they will take it, you assume that to be the case based on past experiences. Maybe they just had a colonoscopy and can't eat. Maybe they just ate to the brim and don't want to eat more. You don't KNOW.
God KNOWS. You can't seriously be trying to equate the two.

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>>37395804
Risking off topic because I study theology. In a nutshell, God isn't omnipotent. He tried to create humans without sin in the Garden of Eden, fucked up and cast them out. If you choose to follow Abrahamic religion you are CHOOSING to try to get back into God's good graces despite original sin, thus you must live your life in his image.
The ten commandments say thou shall not have any other gods but me for a reason. You CHOOSE God and gain entry through Jesus and in return you gain God's love. Your struggle is your own.
Anyway, if Cover doesn't actually give info on what the fuck is going on these shitpost threads are on their shoulders. Deal with it.
Lol at Vesper getting in "trouble" btw.

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>this somehow snowballs into someone else having a bunch of skeletons in their closet revealed

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>>37395916
Whichever path results in the destruction of Holo EN (even though I like most of the talents0

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>>37395916
>What course of action are you hopeful for?
Execution via firing squad

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>Boys had free reign to collab with the girls and NijiEN
>Now both of this will be taken away because of Vesper
I kneel

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>>37395915
So in other words, God is something that requires no organized religion at all and the Bible and belief system around it should be ignored entirely.
>>37395986
If he's not omnipotent then that contradicts every other anon in the thread and all organized church stances so which is it.

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>>37391151
this is the fattest message I've seen typed on this board. It would be impossible for anyone remotely fit to replicate this typing style

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>>37395961
Terrible take, see >>37395973
Unless you want to argue God isn't omniscient.

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>>37396082
We're free to disregard thousands of years of wisdom and get rid of religion but it won't end well.

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>>37392606
>eighty five pics of his naked cock
as opposed to what? pics of his cock wearing a shirt and tie?

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>>37396171
Seems to be fine in non-christian countries like Japan. They actually have more social cohesion than here with folk religions that aren't centrally organized.

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>>37396194
You guys don't wear cock bows/ribbons?

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>>37395047
*tips fedora*

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>>37396082
Judaism, part of the Judea/Christian/Islam trinity of Abraham has a lot of things set up to get around God's rules. Tricking God. (Wires around cities, Sabbath elevators, sin to the chicken etc etc). God can absolutely be tricked, and again look at the ten commandments. No other gods before me. He is competing for your love.
You have to look at it as a whole. Most of these anons are probably Protestant and every denomination believes differently. Theology is complicated because of that.
God nor man is perfect. He wants you to accept your original sin and love him regardless. In exchange God will love you. Christian onward believe Jesus took the responsibility of original sin so you can love the Lord in earnest. It's up to the worshipper to decide how they do so.
As far as organized religion goes most people see the Pope as the antichrist. There is no consensus. You go to church to network or find a wife.

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I'm just saying, if it was serious, they'd say they were investigating. He probably either made people uncomfortable/annoyed with some comments, or really butted heads with management and they're punishing him so he gets in line. I just want him to come back because he's probably the best vtuber for my own tastes, and I love his chemistry with the other Tempus guys.

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Whens the Vesper sex tape?

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>>37396235
Other traditions can get close to the truth and at this point Japan seems to respect tradition more than the west. Social cohesion also relies on other factors that aren't related to religion; like how closely genetically related you are to everyone in your society

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>>37395915
>>37395892
>>37395827
You have free will. God knows what you're going to do because he's a 5th+ dimensional being at the very least, meaning he can see everything happen, kind of like Dr. Manhattan. You only get the appropriate consequences after you do, what you were going to do anyways.

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He and Kronii probably had something going but Cover knew they only had to bonk one of the two for it to stop so of course they picked the one making no money vs the one making a lot so they went with the dude

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>>37396343
Those are irreconcilably different beliefs though. I think I'm good. "It doesn't matter which of these incompatible belief systems you pick, just pick one and join some organized christian group like a church so we can use you as a political cudgel."

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>>37396235
Japan is the most literal manifestation of a society that eats bugs, lives in pods, owns nothing, and is happy about it.

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>>37396430
Oh look a fascist.

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>>37396591
No I just believe in evolution

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>>37396489
I think you're misunderstanding how either free will works or omniscience.

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>>37392456
https://youtu.be/w9ZAIVPtayk?t=84

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>>37396343
This. Denominations exist because they can't even get the same definition of god and how to deal with it despite deriving from similar scriptures.

A lot of what this anon posits is heresy and blasphemy for some denominations, while in others it's accepted to varying degrees.

On my end, if we're going to use this world as the basis/result of the work of an omniscient and omnipotent God, it cannot be called 'good' in the humanist sense. It merely is the way things are - beyond arguments of morality, and we either align with Its will or we don't.

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Honestly considering aloe got a 2 week fucking suspension for ACCIDENTLY leaving up her test stream its probably something equally dumb.

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>>37383826
>like he's gonna get terminated after the 2 weeks.
He most likely will. This is just cover's dirty trick to save face and come up with some excuse to terminate him like rushia.

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Why the fuck are fags arguing about offtopic athiest faggotry instead of discussing the OP?

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>>37385764

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>>37396654
It's a matter of POV, you have free will because you don't know the future. When you're told someone knows the future you complain you don't.

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>>37384172
I thought he was pure... vesperkeks we lost...

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>>37396392
gws

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>>37396831
This has no relevance to the conversation about the morality of god's omniscience and omnipotence. Also
>entitled atheist LIBERAL complains that they don't get future-seeing handouts

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>>37396713
There are two different types of "suspensions" from Cover.

>Punishing suspensions
Which are pretty straightforward and what you would expect a suspension is for
>Protective suspensions
This one is veiled as a punishment to appease the offended party but its also mostly to wait things out so they calm down, this is what happened with Aloe, Coco and Chammers. In fact, most suspensions so far have been this.

You can usually tell which one is it by the wording of the announcements. In Vesper's case the announcements puts way too much fault into his actions... so this feels like a real punishment, specially since there's not an offended party being public. All of this is to say that Aloe's and Vesper's suspensions shouldn't be compared.

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>HoloEN manages to cruise along without problems for 2 years
>StarsEN get the only suspension in EN less than 5 months into the job
So much for those "talent scouts" huh?

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>>37397205
>manages to cruise along without problems for 2 years
People already forgot Sana huh

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>>37397322
who?

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I see now, the [resident scholar] got suspended for repeatedly forcing Christianity towards other members and management, and is arguing in this thread, /here/ RIGHT NOW!

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>>37397322
Who?
The 10 members of Myth and Council are accountsd for.

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>>37397322
She never got so much as a slap on the wrist, life itself just shat on her every opportunity it got.

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This Christian shit was an actual slide attempt to bury the thread. Good job Discord.

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>>37396908
If Vesper gets fired I might actually just drop Cover as a whole. Him and Tempus have been a breath of fresh air for EN. Myth has so little chemistry I think they actually just dislike each other and Council is boring aside from Fauna sometimes. I forget Irys even exists 90% of the time.

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>>37397466
Do you promise you'll stop posting too?

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>>37397507
There are vtubers aside from those in Holopro, anon. And even then, no, I won't stop. Part of the fun is to read unsubstantiated rrats and contribute to them.

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All these guys need to go

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>>37396819
Homobeggar damage control.

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>>37395916
They should pull the plug straight away
1 incident of a member being a creepy groomer in discord will forever separate them

[Anonymous No.]

Vesper pulled a kanye west/kyrie Irving moment behind the scenes.

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>>37397581
The time has come.

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>>37397466
same
/vt/'s golden girl doesn't even fucking stream

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>>37384172
Not again bros...

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>>37383676
isnt te most obvious rrat that management have been trying to put the Genie back in the bottle after seeing the reaction to the homos and the collab girls dropping numbers. He went behind their back and was trying to organise stuff directly with them against management wishes.

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>>37398285
This implies the people mad about holostars watch vtubers, but they do not

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>>37398319
the people mad about holostars is everyone outside their 2,000 strong box. Even the ambivalent have truned against them because their fans are irritating as fuck

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>>37398564
Anon, everyone mad about holostars is on VT, almost no one here watches vtubers. Also they all use reaction images of girls who have collabed with men, proving they don't even watch the ones they try to paint themselves as fans of

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>>37397466
good riddance

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>>37397466
Fuck, holopro might lose all 10 tempus fans