how much moonspeak have YOU learned from watching chuubas?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCDQho-xATg

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None.

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>hey let's have a letter for each word
Demented language.

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>>37232122
My oshi has motivated me to do my reps and I'm slowly getting better.

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>>37232122
Quite better, didnt take my reps seriously until this year and now can read quite a bit of moonrunes. Need to practice my speech understanding, been seeing a lot of people recommending Okayu because she speaks slowly and clearly so been watching her more lately.

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I learned nothing. The older I get the more retarded I feel. I decided to start art reps, but spend hours watching videos instead of drawing because when I do it's clear I don't even know where to start. Learning Japanese is #2 on my bucket list, but I just don't feel motivation to do anything anymore. My body aches all over and I recently started using aspercreme and am tired all the time in addition to having completely fucked up my life in a very big way and feel like at my age I'm far beyond fixing anything. Being old sucks.

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Improved by about 60%.

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>>37232122
I'm too retarded to learn even just kana, bros... it's over

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>>37232155
>having a unique way to write every word combined with phonetic characters that can be used flexibly for grammatical clarity BAD
>having 26 letters for a language with 44 phonemes and then using multiple of those letters for the same sound anyways GOOD

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>>37232155
It's not actually how it works

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>>37232155
that is chinese

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>>37232122
hotate
tetaho
atsui
samui

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>>37233393
Apparently kana is the biggest filter

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>>37232542
Just start with learning kana
Then you can start watching cure dolly's video because it's free
For the vocab just use jisho also don't forget kanji they can make learning vocab extremely easy

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>>37233848(me)

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>>37232122
a couple phrases and words.

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>>37233848
I'll be honest, I tried to learn Japanese like... 15 years ago and made it to a little over 300 kanji before I stopped doing my reps for whatever reason. It's just one more thing that crosses my mind often where I go, "Wow, what if I just stuck with that? I'd have 15 years of experience right now!" I mainly suffer from a severe lack of motivation, really.

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>>37233409
Unironically yes
I'd take English's inconsistencies over having to memorize THOUSANDS of different scribbles every single time

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>>37234315
You don't need thousands of different scribbles just some 2k or so and then you can always just spell the word phonetically which you can't really do with some English words without some faggot some where getting his panties in a wad case and point color vs colour or aluminum vs aluminium or my favorite grey vs gray

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>>37234315
>needing to memorize a few thousand inconsistent scribbles to read my native language GOOD
>asians memorizing a few thousand consistent scribbles to read their native language BAD BAD BAD
Sounds like a skill issue on your end nigger

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>>37232122
If you count Cure Dolly as a vtuber then I learned quite a lot. RIP.

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>>37234879
>26 letters + 10 numbers = a few thousand
Amazing

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>>37235596
How did you know its written "Amazing" and not uhmazeyng? Because you memorized thousands of words.
Frankly I'm amazed that you have such a strong opinion on how other languages should work with zero awareness of how your own language works. It's very surprising that you can comprehend these messages even partially you retarded monkey.

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if you think kanji is the "hard" part of Japanese you're obviously just starting out. kaji is just rote memorization that any monkey can do. yeah it takes a long time but you can learn how to read it or you can just brute force memorize it and eventually you'll learn it

the real kick in the balls in Japanese is hiragana because it's used in all their grammar. so yeah it's one thing to identify what a certain kanji means, but it's another thing altogether to try and understand what kind of nuance or meaning the 5 or 6 trailing hiragana are giving to whatever is being said

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>>37232122
I learned nothing from chuubas, the biggest improvement came after reading mangas

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Even though I've been watching vtubers since Kizuna Ai, my total Japanese skill has improved only very slightly.

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>>37232122
i learned that kintama means testicles

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>>37235826
this is actually a good point, this anon won

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>>37232122
enough to actually enjoy listening to fully JP streams. But not enough to be useful to me.

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>>37232122
I got to like 2500 words on anki but I'm getting a bit tired

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i dont know why the first thing anyone cares about is the characters, just yesterday i wanted to check something on my neighbour totaro and i saw the characters and could read them as tonari no totaro but i didnt know what tonari meant so i just had to assume it meant neighbour or something
id rather learn to speak it first, makes more sense to me

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>>37232122
Jagaimo=Potato

Thank you Koro-san.

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>>37238711
Because you need to learn how to read when you buy manga, light novels, visual novels, etc. That's where most of the anime stuff is.

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>>37232122
my oshi actively makes my japanese worse

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I live in the place where all they speak is moonspeak. Haven’t learned anything that I haven’t already learn since uni. Watching someone in jp hasn’t helped. I’m a failure

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>>37232155
That's basically how kids write with emoji symbols.

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>>37238420
I don't count it as a win because I got rude at the end

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>>37238968
based

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>>37238968
same same
>>37239353
well you made me see things a different way so you won, i hadn't considered that while it is true theres only limited letters in english, theres infinite combinations all with made up inconsistent rules and infiniye exceptions
runes on the other hand do have near infinite readings, but once you get the hang of them, you can derive meaning whether you know the readings or not easily enough

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>>37235898
explain the difference between は and が RIGHT NOW

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>>37238916
>buy manga
>buy
lmao

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>>37240153
Yeah, I buy the ones I really like.

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>>37240008
が is for the subject when it's a new element
は is for the topic it's when you want to emphasize something already known and it can be use for anything in a sentence

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>>37240008
ga is the subject
ha(wa) is the topic
You can only know what that means by watching anime for 1000 hours

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>>37232122
I'll will only learn japanese if they update their stupid writing system

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>>37232122
I'm learning Indonesian instead

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>>37232122
Quite a bit but I'm held back by the fact I fucking hate learning grammar. At least I can now read the silly 4koma manga I've wanted to read for half my life and understand a good 75% of it without resorting to deepl

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>>37232122
0

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A little bit

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>>37233897
Thanks, I will now try to learn katakana

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>>37232122
I haven't learned too much new vocabulary, but I have returned to approx my listening ability from back when I was in Japan 6 years ago. I had lost most of it gradually, where I could read, but listening to people speak was iffy.
Chuubas brought me back.

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>>37235898
As someone who learned Mandarin before Japanese, the challenge for me was no the Kanji themselves, but how some of them have FIFTEEN PRONUNCIATIONS EACH.
And it isn't like Chinese where the multiple pronunciations is an exception, it's the fucking norm in Japanese. What were they thinking?

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>>37254234
https://www.tofugu.com/japanese/learn-hiragana/
https://kana-quiz.tofugu.com/
this helps you learn it in a week or so, but you need to keep using it or else you'll forget

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I was grinding away at it for a while but lost motivation and the college classes I'm in turned out much harder than I expected so I'm just focusing on those. I'm getting hard filtered by memorizing vocabulary which is the exact same thing that happened in high school Spanish.

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>>37232122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zk3d26R8r0
you will learn alot

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>>37232122
Watching chuubas let me improve my listening skills but learning vocab and kanji, not so much.

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>>37254234
Follow your (JP) oshi and her friends on twitter. Read the hiragana/katakana in every message, and in stream titles, it's a good way to retain kana in the early days. Once you start learning basic words you'll recognize some of the kanji as well like for streaming, waking or sleeping, feeling well or sick, singing, etc.
Finding ways to have those sorts of basic things saturating the stuff that you already usually interact with can help a lot, not with every word but with many of the foundational things. For example, if your oshi sings a lot, then the first time you learn the kanji and words for to sing/singer/etc., you won't forget them because you'll see it in all the streams, cover song descriptions, twitter, etc.
Basically exploiting the Baader-Meinhof effect (once you learn something you'll notice it everywhere it appears, which helps reinforce it much quicker).