Tempus ruined HoloEN-

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>>36956362
IRyS replied to a Star on twitter.

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>>36956362
Did Ame collab with a homo prior to tempus? I know she lusted over jackal cock on twitter

[Anonymous No.]

Will you ever move on?

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>>36956774
This is /vt/ so probably not

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>>36956362
>Mumei
>Kiara
>"Doesn't interact with Holostars"
lol
lmao even

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>>36956362
ftfy anon

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>>36956725
Not real. That was photoshopped, retard

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>>36956362
Its okay if she talks with males it doenst mean she is fucking him its just a collab to help each other

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>>36956362
tempus itself is innocuous, but not so for the whores who chose to interact with them and transformed their fanbase into collab beggars and crybabies

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>>36956988
At least for Mumei, I don't think she acknowledged tempiss in any stream or twitter

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>>36956928
>>Kiara
Proof next thread?

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>>36956745
No, she never even entertained the idea. She was in some their chats early on and she probably interacted with them on twitter too, congratulation them on milestones and birthdays.

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>>36957435
Kiara herself said she felt left out by not being in the Homo+Holo Halloween music video. She's slowly cracking.
Not to mention her good ol "Is it okay if I collab with males?" talk.

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>>36956725
Then you’d be able to post proof, right?

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>>36957699
he will

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>>36956988
I don't think Mumei has acknowledged or interacted with Tempiss. IRyS did shut it down when she responded to a superchat.

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Tempus saved holo EN

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>Tempus ruined HoloEN-
The numbers don't lie.

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>>36957773
Can you even read?

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>>36957690
That’s a 5s mention about a collab that didn’t happen. Talke about grasping at straws.
If this counts, then Gura and all of Myth was on screen with actual stars.
https://streamable.com/clsmxm

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>>36957773
>I don't think Mumei has acknowledged or interacted with Tempiss
Watch streams.
https://youtu.be/rug3v4nrvfo

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>>36957873
>tempiss
>posts starsJP
Reading comprehension chama...

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>>36957866
>I-It doesn't count! It means nothing!
Cuckfp cope, lol
Also completely forgot that Gura clip existed. How come nobody mentions it anymore? Was it because it was too early on in Myth's lifespan for them to care?

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>>36956362
I agree

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>>36957842
I was about to add that they did interact with males outside of en. They learnt their lesson.

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>>36957924
Yeah, but the image says she interacted with Holostars before Tempus, so what's the point of bringing up the fact she never acknowledged or interacted with them if that wasn't the point to begin with?

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>>36957952
Because nobody cared because they nobody felt threatened. So even an occasional collab would go without drama (see Mori).
Now that some people feel threatened, people are looking for more material for more bait so everything is good to take and grasping at straw is now fine for baits.

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>>36957981
He's being obstinate to validate his life choices.

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>>36957952
>Also completely forgot that Gura clip existed. How come nobody mentions it anymore? Was it because it was too early on in Myth's lifespan for them to care?
Because it is totally irrelevant. They didn't interact whatsoever, it was just some clips that some retarded nigger made them watch at a con.

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>>36957717
In two more threads, or what?

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>>36956362
For the record Orcschizo likes the shark, she's pissed off so fucking much over getting rejected from Hololive due to Kiara taking her spot
because she wanted to be friends with Gura so badly (they both share the same autism). Mumei would rather give Bae the finger than make Gura sad.

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>>36956988
At this point, it might be better to split the first category into “still do” and “don’t do it anymore.”

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>>36958506
Because if he doesn't hes a bitch.
I presume he won't flake out after that claim. I've seen the tweet screenshots but never actually saw if it was real or not.
I just assume the worst in all scenarios, the worst case being that its true.
I'm sure he'll post proof at some point

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>>36956362
Hoomans still trying to get Mumei to fit in with the rest, I see. Nice memoryholing.

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>>36956362
These guys are quickly becoming those pathetic townies that never got over some earlier part of their lives.
If any of these posts are sincere you're deliberately making yourselves into pathetic losers. You're the /vt/ equivalent of Bill having a mental breakdown.

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>>36958386
>fawns over a males voice
>irrelevant

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twattertroons out here in full force

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>>36959045
At this point, you might want to look into goalkeeping.

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>>36959444
NTA but the only 2 stars I saw her interact with on twitter are Shien and Oga

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>>36956774
Waiting for the episode when they finally finish the homework and graduate Tempuss.

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>>36956362
This thread was made by a cuckowld in denial.

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>>36959934
link the tweets then, people are claiming they're photoshopped, which seems like cope but here we are

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>>36959934
Simply provide proof and the horror can end.

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A hoocuck made this thread

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>>36960203
>>36960681
How the fuck do you search for twitter posts?
She thanked Shien when he showed up to her Kraroke. Thanked Oga for tweeting a compliment of her music and then had a couple interactions before mega man 2 stream.
That's what I remember.

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>>36960839
https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Airys_en%20to%3Akageyamashien&src=typed_query&f=live

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>>36961204
1 month after debut. Damn.
Shes come a long way

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>>36956362
Funny enough I only like watching the top and middle row. Bottom row girls bore me mostly, gura's DMC 5 streams were fun though, she was too much of a dum dum in the other games.

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>>36959526
Same way Miko can memoryhole having done male collabs in the past and be the face of the “no males” group.

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>>36959681
Who is Bill?

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>>36961245
shit taste

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>>36956774
The world needs to know which ENs to ignore.

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just dont watch and shut up already

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>>36962306
No

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>>36962306
>dont watch
Sure.
>shut up
Nah. I'll keep pointing out that Tempus was a huge mistake.

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>IRyS acknowledged starsJP
>Refuses to acknowledge tempus
She's so fucking based. JP stars are NOT to be compared with whatever the absolute unholy fuck tempus is supposed to be, twitch fucks. I'd respect EN a lot more of they collabed spammed with the JP guys before they decided to do that with the other fags.

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stinky sweaty fat twitter femcels seething in here

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>>36962306
Tempus cucks getting desperate

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>>36958153
I got the feeling they are gonna achieve the opposite effect of what they want.

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>>36962382
>twitter user
>gigachad image
sometimes it's okay not to reach so far

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>>36956745
There it says interaction not collab. You had to see it coming when she started liking Babudon art out of nowhere.

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>>36962306
Haha!
No.

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>>36956362
>Mumei
Revisionist Mumeifag please

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>>36968815
Nobody cares.
It feels like if that never really happened. She didn't show up with the tempus collabs and hasn't been simping for them.
OP's whole concept is deeply flawed because it puts Mumei on the same category as Mori.

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>>36968815
N-no delete this, it's fake news!!!

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>>36968815
Mumei was absolved of her sins. She is a born-again member of the cgdct faction.

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>>36968815
If you want to get technically, it seems Mumei betrayed the Pro-Homo faction.

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HoloEN ruined itself. Tempiss was just a catalyst to increase the speed of the process.

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>>36956362
>doesn't interact with holostars
lmfao

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>>36956362
RENT FREE. Have you tried not caring about Tempiss or the homos?

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>>36973433
Let me guess
>muh dicksword

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>>36956745
>>36957457

During the second Myth collab when they all did a quiz together Ame was the only one that knew how many Hololive JP ID CN and Holostars there were. Its no big surpise

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>>36957457
Holy shit, I must have had a stroke writing this.

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>>36969749
>>36970014
Can you hooman cucks stop trying to memory hole your whore oshi interacting with stars? She did it one (1) time and that's enough, it's over for her. The same way it's over for Ina.
>S-she only did it o-once and she was tricked in!
Sure and if my hypothetical wife only cheated once everything would be forgiven.

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I've said this so many times, yet people still don't seem to get it: Tempus was basically like the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand. HoloEN was already in trouble, and this was just the event that *happened* to set it off.
The real reason male collabs have gone over like a wet fart is the fact that several of the Hololive members don't know their audience, and this is the event that revealed that. The real impact of Tempus' debut is revealing that the ones who do collab with males don't know how to do it without affecting the rest of the branch.
I don't mind vtubers collabing with males. I just want them to do it without turning their corpo into another NijiEN. It's really not that hard, but that's the thing so many western vtubers can't do. And the ones who could strike that balance generally decide it's not worth it.

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>>36974086
Don't care, I simply don't care and nothing you say can make me give a fuck.

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>>36974086
>Sure and if my hypothetical wife only cheated once everything would be forgiven.
I've seen retards like you type this shit so many times I'm starting to wonder if there's a discord server with these pastas saved somewhere. You do have a right to be mad at your wife for cheating once and leaving her worthless ass without listening to a word she says. You have no right to be mad at a stranger for collabing with males however often she wants, and you should be grateful to a streamer who only collabs with males once. If you can't tell why those are both true, you should probably just point that gun at yourself and pull the trigger already.

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>>36974086
Retard, the only EN I still watch is Gura, and I would drop her the second she collabs with a male. It's all about what expectations you set. The difference between Ina and Mumei is, that Ina jumped on the opportunity to do a song with a homo, while she can't even be bothered to tweet something for her fans. Mumei collabed once, barely talked and just spammed gore. She must have realized that collabing with homos isn't a good idea, if she even did it out of her own volition, and never mentioned it again.

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>>36974259
How about zero times like Gura? No? Then she's a whore.
>>36974427
The content literally does not matter. She did it once, she's tainted. At least we have Gura to rely on. And no schizos, sponsored collabs like the one she's doing doesn't count.
>>36974212
So mindbroken its hilarious.

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>>36974525
Sponsored collabs do count, somewhat, but Gura didn't do any of those with males.

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>>36974259
>You have no right to be mad at a stranger for collabing with males however often she wants
NTA but Hololive is about about cute girls doing cute things. If a Holo is too stupid to understand this one simple concept then I have every right to get mad at her and drop her ass. Kronii, Ame, Bae, and Mori will never touch your dick no matter how hard you whitenight for them, you pathetic little cuck.

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>>36974870
NTA but nobody decided on that garbage definition unicunts like you parrot all the time as a crutch, Hololive had it's roots collabing with men at some point before they moved the route better for business (this was a decision spear-headed by the girls themselves)
The girls THEMSELVES decide if they want to provide the exclusively CGDCT experience or if they want to collab with men, there has never been a rule that stated otherwise or that they couldn't collab with males in Hololive
Turn out the majority of them choose the former (Majority of JP girls, Fauna, Gura), a mix of both (Fubuki, Sora, Bae, Ame) or go all in on the latter (Mori, Kronii)
Back to your mud hut you son of a whore, you can't even type properly lmao

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>>36956362
>Doesn't interact with homos
I kneel

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>>36957173
no fuck you, the fact they came from a male sperm means they are fucking sluts and we should shame them!

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>36976448
Reach for your (You)

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>>36975718
Hololive was never Nijisanji.
The JP branch has never interacted with men the way some of the EN and ID branch have.
That's really the issue.

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Dont worry guys. Tempus is going to Japan with mori, kiara, ame and gura
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84pghPEndMY&ab_channel=ArisuCh%E3%80%82

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>homobeggers still trying to drag Ina down
I can't speak for every takodachi, but as long as Ina doesn't collab with homos in a livestream I'm fine. Lending her voice to a song that also has homo voices in it isn't a collab, and the idea that participating in a fucking ad campaign that includes a homo would somehow count is laughable at best.

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>>36976689
But they did, they were leeching off the Niji males hard.

But then MIKO said nigger, and the rest is history..

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>>36976744
Yeah man sure.
She just said a word and magically the whole company reformatted itself to a new demographic.

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>>36976728
Ina interacts with males when she leeches from her simps in FFXIV and GBF

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>>36976448
I've never gotten why roasties cry about slut shaming when promiscuity is bad regardless of sex. I don't particularly care for girls that sleep around with anyone, and I doubt most women would want a partner that's liable to sleep around either. I'm not a femoid though so I dunno maybe girls love the idea of a guy that'll sleep with someone behind their backs.

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>>36968815
Is this real?

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>>36976699
Fuck you nigger for making me watch this shitty clip. They never talked about actually going to Japan.

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>>36976852
come on man don't lie, girls find guys that sleep around hot as fuck while guys find girls with a high body count gross
they're not equal

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>>36977207
And that is the source of so much fem-seethe its unbeliveable.

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>>36977207
Alright fine, so girls have lower standards than guys, whatever. Maybe girls should try slut shamming guys if the double standard bothers them so much.
And even if girls find guys that sleep around hot, I'm pretty sure they still don't appreciate it when they sleep around behind their back.

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>>36974525
Dumbfuck, she just want to spam homos with gore

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>>36976840
If we're counting off stream stuff then all the girls are soiled because they all came out of their daddy's dicks.
Unless one of them was a virgin conception I guess, but unless one of them steps up as the second coming of Christ I doubt that's the case.

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What goes through the mind of someone that watches a vtuber that collabs with males. Like I don't get it. Do they think Tempiss didn't join for the soul purpose of getting some vtuber puss? Jews sent their twittertranny golem to destroy vtubing forever with collabbegging, and now vtubing is ruined forever. There shouldn't even be a /mans/ thread on /vt/. All male shit should be banned from the board, because males can not be vtubers, or idols. Thank god my oshi is based at least, but I feel for my fallen comrades that have had their hearts broken. Death to trannies, death to male vtubers.

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>>36974525
Jesus went unto the mount of Olives. And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them. And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
John 8:1-11 (KJV)

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>>36957699
https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1481185874058481667
https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1466862576164573184
https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1427168933765816325

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>>36979232
Uhhhhhh

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>>36961238
She also did this. It's unimaginable for Gura to do join something like this.

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>>36979232
>https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1427168933765816325
The most braindead fucking reply I've ever read what the fuck is wrong with that man kek

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>>36979574
Granted, the entirety of those exchanges are platitudes, which tend to sounds stupid.

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>>36978797
Outrageously based

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>>36978797
Allowing male vtubers here has brought the worst people to the board.

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>>36956362
Thanks for putting the good chuubas at the top of the chart this time, anon. You wouldn't believe how often people do it the other way around. So confusing!

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>>36956362
This is true and I will never forgive YAGOO and EN management

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>>36979574
Shien ain't got time for common whores.

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>>36980813
I have seen far more baitposts by anons larping as homobeggars than actual homobeggars. In fact, I only really recall one time that I saw a post by a genuine homobeggar. And I replied to them politely about why I thought their opinion was unrealistic and why collabs between males and females inherently have a harder time getting views. And they saw my point and we had a cordial discussion.
So, no. The seething over male vtubers has shat up the board far more than male vtubers themselves.

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>>36981754
There wouldn't be baitposts if there were no male vtubers.

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>>36981754 (me)
If you were wondering, I basically said that there’s far more “precision” required for a cross-gender collab to get views. You have cgdct as a template with a collab of just girls, while for males and females the meta is…fleshtubers. Which fleshtubers do better. In order to have a good collab of that kind, it has to be a unique sort of chemistry that’s specific, like between Roberu and Mea. And it has to be unique in each case.
I was polite, conceded the idea that some of those kinds of collabs can work (important: “I don’t like it” doesn’t mean “It’s bad”; I made it clear that I understood that), but that in aggregate, it being so much harder to do makes them just less likely to work out. It’s not hard to have a civil conversation, even /here/, if you just be polite. Also, if they start trolling then, everyone else in the thread starts shitting on them.

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>>36979232
uh oh, nomales bros?

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>>36956362
>Have oshi
>Oshi has Collab with man
>Drop oshi and claim you'll never watch her again
>"Why does my oshi have low views? I know it's Tempiss's fault even though it was I and many others' who are at fault but I choose to leave her, anti her, have them in my mind rent free, deflect and project hard just to prove my inconsistent point"
>Inb4 based
>Inb4 fpbp
>Start numberfagging and claim Tempus is irrelevant
>Still make shitposts about them and making them relevant anyway
>"But negativity isn't relevancy!"
>Realize what you said is stupid
>Delete the thread and come up with a new game plan hoping Cover will listen
>Not realize this is the board where everyone outside of /here/ sees this place as a circus
>Do it anyway because it's the only thing you can enjoy out of the hobby anymore.
>Get a reply like this one
>Inb4 cope and seethe
>While also seething as hard as you can

[Anonymous No.]

>>36982100
this says a lot about /vt/ honestly

[Anonymous No.]

>>36982100
Mine already politely told you to fuck off, but feel free to keep shitposting.

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>>36982100
BASED

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>>36982100
I can't even follow this post, is this stuff you did or you are implying a strawman did or OP did or stuff you should do or what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36982255
to put it simply this entire thread is literally a tempus rent-free thread... Take it as you will but it's fucking true

[Anonymous No.]

>>36982416
Oh ok.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36982416
Not really, but whatever you have to tell yourself to get by i guess.

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>>36968815
She has learnt her lesson.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36982479
It is, you can keep denying it but it is what it is

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>>36956362
Bottom is perfect except for chicken

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>>36982416
Pretty much. I really don’t know what else you’re supposed to think in reaction to a post like this >>36981879.
Do I like what’s happened to HoloEN lately? Hell no. But when I’m /here/ and I’m reminded of yet another Tempus collab, I decide to start thinking about the nature of the EN vtuber scene, the dynamics of HoloEN specifically, how the nature of the vtubing fandom and weebs in general shifts over time, what the basis behind the constant paranoia that “this is the end of vtubing” is from both a historical and a psychological perspective.
Is any of that useful? I dunno. Is it a waste of my time? Probably. But it’s more interesting to ponder these questions and less stressful, because I have plenty of free space that isn’t being taken up by Tempus.

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>>36982776
You're still indirectly reacting to the influence of the males tho.

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>>36982100
>Why does my oshi have low views? I know it's Tempiss's fault even though it was I and many others' who are at fault
This part of your greentext is wrong, if you have a standard for the entertainment you want from hololive, no matter how retarded it may be to others it is perfectly within your right to drop someone when they fail to live up to it, anyone dropping girls because of no tolerance for male collabs is doing absolutely nothing wrong, and those people are not then questioning "why does my former oshi have low views?" like you imply, by and large they expect her views to take a hit somewhat because they correctly surmised that the majority of hololive fans are not that interested in coed content.
I can agree with the seething on here being less than useless though, the only thing that will actually change anything in the end is management changing directions because of numbers.

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>>36977397
To truly grasp this subject we need to look into past trough evolutionary lens. If man didn't settle and take care of his wife and children, he would be shamed and ostracized. If woman were to sleep around she would be shamed and more than likely beaten for it.

TLDR: Without contraception, there would be actual consequences for adultery.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36979232
Can you screencap these for me please and in night mode

[Anonymous No.]

>>36984289
>This part of your greentext is wrong, if you have a standard for the entertainment you want from hololive, no matter how retarded it may be to others it is perfectly within your right to drop someone
Not that guy but yeah, you have every right to. Though being an outright anti soon after isn't. Could just leave and move on but if they're going to stay and be a dick then they're just proving what anon posted.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder

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>>36987485
>No Mori's gen

Interesting

[Anonymous No.]

Why do you people keep putting Mumei in never interacted with Stars when she had a full Gartic Phone collab and visits Astel's karaoke streams? She even had a short conversation with Astel on one of the karaoke streams where she was commenting

[Anonymous No.]

>>36991573
>nooo it doesn't count for whatever reason
denial

[Anonymous No.]

>>36968815
oh oh discortranny gang we got to cocky

[Anonymous No.]

>>36956362
Funnily enough, I've even enjoyed Ina, Ame and Bae. Kronii is painfully unfunny Kiara is weird, I'd watch Kiara if not for the voice or her talking too much about other holos. I don't mind Kronii it's just that her humor is godawful. The rest , i.e 4 on the bottom, give me shady vibes. Constantly cancelling stuff, disappearing, not putting out much content, trying to bee too "cute" etc etc, generally speaking I mean. Something about them reminds me of those twitch 'gamergirl' streamers that do the 'uwu' cutesy voice only to be later revealed to have been cheating on one person, backstabbing another and so forth. I dunno. Maybe I'm the crazy one.

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>>36962382
Damn and here I thought pomudachis and dragoons were the most hated fanbases just because both nijifags and holofags hate them
Tempusfags have it rough

[Anonymous No.]

>>36979232
Man I feels like forever since these happened.
She has the right idea of not mentioning them past these rare circumstances

[Anonymous No.]

Bruh if these people having a meltdown over beta male vtubers, then just wait until Christmas.
You all gonna love it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36959681
where do you think you are?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36991573
>>36992135
Nothing since the collab, no indication of anything more in the future. If it works for Miko and Subaru, it works for Mumei. Also, I noticed you used the present tense when talking about Astel’s karaoke when that was nearly a year ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36992470
>if they don't interact with homos they must be hiding something
this is not a new way of shitting on them

[Anonymous No.]

>>36995687
It also forces them to ignore Mumei because either she has nothing to hide but started avoiding them anyway, or she has something to hide, but that didn’t stop her before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36956362
HoloEN was already dipping, EN3 would had given them a bump but no, Tempus it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36956725
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM3uXu1Dq4c

[Anonymous No.]

>>36956362
The biggest mistake was to release tempus before EN3, the hype train is pretty much dead