Mori isolated by Hololive EN girls

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=3020&v=OcZTcQWRPmI&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=3020&v=OcZTcQWRPmI&feature=youtu.be

>My Holofriends ghosted me
>They hate me

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>>36890546
I feel bad for her we need to help

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good

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>>36890546
This didn't need another thread.

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>>36890546
good

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Gura is still seething over the party.

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>>36890546
None of them are friends. The whole branch is a failure.

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>>36890546
good

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>>36890546
I see discord is spamming Mori threads today.

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>>36890546
>look how bitchy my friends are, harass them again my minions

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>>36890546
Good

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>>36890546
Good

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>>36890546
>4 week old catalogue bait
I'm surprised that I don't remember seeing this get clipped though.

[Anonymous No.]

just meet up with the stars then

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>1 month ago
Boo, not even current drama

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>>36890755
Some councilrys pairs are friends
Gura and Ame might be friends, or they might actually have beef, hard to tell when neither is really the type to ask for collabs, Gura puts up 10 layers of opsec and refuses to talk about anything personal

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>>36890709
Well, Gura was kinda of yabless till that party, no wonder it ended like this. The first stain on Gura's career was caused by Mori

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>Hey I showed up in your country unannounced, do you want to take multiple days off just to travel to meet me for no reason other than to celebrate my 6th time visiting home this year? No? Why do you hate me?
Mori, more like Chore-i

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>>36890709
no no Gura totally had the time of her life in that party, didn't you hear Mori say that she was getting up to shenanigans?

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>Kiara is the only EN who tolerates Mori enough to accept a visit from her
pottery

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Chumbud deflection thread

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>>36891439
Ame and Gura were friends but Ame didn't want to be seen as gura's sidekick and so distanced herself.

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>>36890546
Good, she deserves it more than anyone. Maybe don't openly try to destroy the company the other girls love.

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>>36890546
Mori Kronii and Ame should be bullied out of Hololive

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>>36891644
she has Battered Housewife syndrome, pls understand

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ao9EgKoOn8 Hololive drama.

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>>36890546
she brought it on herself

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>>36891644
Watch Kiara's birthday call-in to Mori. Mori dropped the fact that she was visiting her out of nowhere onstream. You could tell Kiara wasn't too thrilled about it.
Same shit she pulled when she tried to force Irys to do an Ironmouse collab with her.

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>>36892509
I don't like Tempus but I hope they also start avoiding Mori, all this bitch does is put the people around her in awkward situations

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>>36892509
It seems you are the ones who want to see Kiara hating Mori when in reality that isn't the case.

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>>36892509
That moment where she revealed that she was planning on visiting on stream was so fucking uncomfortable and also somewhat shitty.

It's like when people get proposed to in public.
It puts them into a position where it's much harder and awkward to turn someone down since so many people are watching.

And the worst part is that I can't tell if Mori deliberately did it on stream, to boost her chances, or just because she thought it would be a nice surprise.

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>>36892509
not surprising, mori is very difficult to be with.

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>>36891606
I'm 100% convinced that these "Shenanigans" were more of a "warning flag on the door" kind of stuff, since Calli did say she spent the time locked in there.

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>>36892904
>or just because she thought it would be a nice surprise
Probably that one.

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>>36890546
She's got her boys, kobo and her non-holo friends, she's fine, don't feel sorry for her.

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>>36892904
if she just wanted it to be a surprise she would've done so in private, and not as "Mori"
she did it because she's always chasing clout, she's 100% on the grind at all times and will use anything at her disposal, it's one of her most respectable and despicable qualities at the same time

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>>36892857
nta, but if you watch the stream where Mori invited herself, and compare Kiara's muted reaction to how excited she was when she talked with Mumei about her potential visit at the time, for example, the contrast was quite obvious and telling. With Mori, she was just like "oh, you're coming over? huh... well, that's nice... anyway, moving on..." (nevermind the fact that Mori's main reason for coming to europe in the first place was unrelated roommate business, and the Kiara visit was just a convenient add-on after the fact. Kiara probably already knew that, which explains her underenthused reaction)

Now, of course, that doesn't mean tHey hAtE eaCh oThEr or anything, just that Kiara has noticeably calmed down and gotten over her emotional dependance on Mori that she had in the first few months when they were together in Japan, and now treats her as just another normal colleague. Which is arguably better, for both of them, and their interactions have actually improved when they don't have to play out the fake stale takamori bullshit act anymore. And for what it's worth, they seemed to have an okay nice time together in Austria, and hey, Mori even gave Kiara the coof as a gift.

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>>36890546
lmao, get fucked whore
maybe your sister can hook you up with another house party to stream at for your cuckbeats

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>>36892955
like a sock on the doorknob kind of thing?

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>>36892509
it's funny whenever she does something like that. watching bae and irys go from excited to ambivalent when she said she'd invite iron mouse is funny

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>>36890546
The rrat I've seen a few times and agree with is that during the offcollab something happened to fracture Myth. Maybe some kind of disagreement over the direction of the company/branch, or maybe about Tempiss being a thing.

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>>36894962
or since 4 of them are american they realised they belong to different political group and as far as i know in burgerland you can't be friend with people with different political view, or at least it's the impression you give.

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>>36890546
stop crying

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>>36890546
Don't worry, she is good at sucking Tempus dick, she will be fine.

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>>36894962
>Fracture myth
It's literally just Gura who isolated herself, also
>>36895290
>4 of them are american
Ina is canadian, Kiara is austrian

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>>36895290
>at least it's the impression you give
lay off the twitter and youtube clips
politics hardly ever comes up irl you're with extremely close friends or family

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>>36895469
unless you're*

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>>36890546
Her RM was at twitchon, so it wouldn't be a just you and me girls!!! also OTV, Vshojo, these indies vtubers too!!!! I know you want to keep our stuff secret but come on!!! is not like they are gonna blackmail you with your indentity like they've done to others!! they're really my friends!!!

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>>36890546
just make new friends

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>>36895290
This shit is really stupid, I have seen faggots do the same thing with other stuff like music, just because Rammstein are leftists I won't stop listening to their music, won't let something like that dictate what can I enjoy or not

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>>36895469
>myth
>extremely close or family
Kek not even close.

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>>36891492
>selfdoxx
>wdsdib
>dicksword notification
>responded to brittany
>the ghosting experience
ohnyo it's bwatently false 3:'

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>>36891439
>Gura puts up 10 layers of opsec and refuses to talk about anything personal

>I went to the doctor finally
>but I learned something that um-
>I have a lot of uh-
>I'm not comfortable sharing details of that but I may have-

Cue several hours of shrimp concernfagging. Hell, they might still be going at it since she doesn't stream until tomorrow.

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>>36893637
>Mori even gave Kiara the coof as a gift.
Doing her civic duty as an American I see LMAO.

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>>36890546
She almost doxxed all of them in her last drug party, not to mention the extremely sketchy background dudebro voices in their "collab" while they were either high/drunk. They might not have been fucking, at least not all of them, but some of them definitely got bad touched by one of Mori's californian nigger fuckbuddies. Mori literally wants them to sink their reputation to the dirt like hers is.

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>>36890546
You're like a month late retard

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Notice how the JP's never have emotional meltdown rants like this on stream that goes on and on for more than five minutes.

https://streamable.com/vjlrjt

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>>36895606
this is so brutal. You just know she thinks that the other girls are talentless and lucky, when in reality this is crabs in a bucket shit.

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>>36896539
>taking this as a viewer
Kek, fuck this bitch and fuck the cucks who still support her. That music deal is fucking her whole life up.

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That's nor good

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>>36895413
Ina's an entitled uncaring bitch, Amelia is a contrarian turbobitch, Mori is an insufferable pushy bitch, Kiara is a hyperemotional bipolar bitch. Why would she want to associate herself with her terrible co-workers, they can only pull her down.

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>>36894578
Probably or a sign that said "please knock before entering"
>Mori sees this
>Thinks it's related to sex
>In reality gura is having a breakdown

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>>36894649
>watching bae and irys go from excited to ambivalent when she said she'd invite iron mouse is funny
I think you guys made that out to be a much bigger deal than it was. I went back and watched that moment. It really wasn't that awkward.

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>>36896606
>You just know she thinks that the other girls are talentless and lucky
I doubt it.

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>>36895413
canadians are just diet US-Americans.
And also they're literally NA.

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>>36896706
People have a lot of nostalgia for the first season of myth but honestly speaking their chemistry on stream was almost always non existent. Just about the only actual chemistry that existed was the small amount that we got with the AmeSame collabs but even then there were times where Ame came off as a bipolar bitch.
Myth never had any chemistry, they were all hired due to being semi famous in their past lives and had next to nothing in common with each other, the reasons they were hired hardly even overlapped either which means that they really didn't know or care that much about each other's talents

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>>36896714
I can almost hear Gura's facepalm when she heard the word "shenanigans"

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>”Gura lets do another King or Q song collab!”
>”didn’t you collab with Tempiss” -Gura
>”Gura pls pls…..my numbers.”

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>>36896992
I really doubt Gura has any ideology on not collabing with homos or that she hates anyone that collabs with them. Bonebros breaking has nothing to do with homos.

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>>36896539
>emotional meltdown
Kiara's Skyward Sword finale was an emotional breakdown.
That was just venting, which I honestly find very engaging.
OK, the beginning was more complaining but that's also not an emotional breakdown.

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>Traumatized Kiara by being an insufferable cunt
>Pushed lightweights IRyS and Bae to drink so she can have "friends". Both are singers and shouldn't drink.
>No one shows up to her events, her jump king and pokemon tournament were flops
>Gura hates her after she got doxxed by her and her family
>Ame and Ina are too retarded to hate her
>Her priorities aren't Hololive. Ditched the girls to go fuck around with Twitch thots.
>Contrarian personality ruins fun in games where you can let loose (Minecraft and Rust)
>Ruins collabs just to shill her own dying music career.

It's not hard to see why she's stressed as the writing has been on the wall for her.

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>>36897045
Your not a Gura member.

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>>36890546
This stream was watched live by 15,000 people about 4 weeks ago. Why now, then, are threadreaders trying to make a big deal out of a lighthearted joke at her own expense?

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>>36897207
I am not.

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>>36890546
>>36890709
Yup Gura 100% hates Mori now and doesn't care for most of the others

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Good.

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>>36897192
Your average catalogfag's interpretation of reality

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>>36897192
>Gura hates her after she got doxxed by her and her family
Hate is a strong word here. I doubt there is any hate going on.

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Out of the loop here but how many of the things I'm reading here actually happened? It's hard to tell what actually happened, what didn't, and what might be getting embellished, to say the least.

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>>36897314
If you're in a /vt/ catalog thread, 99% of what you're reading is fake
This board is for circus monkeys

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>>36897231
Because she keeps collabing with homos? Everything she says sounds so fake. Like really? The Homostars concert with Magni? Lmao

At least Gura is honest when asked about Ina, she said she hadn’t talked to her in a while. Then you have Ame pretending she is going to off collab with her BUT wait there won’t be any proof because she won’t tweet or stream anything about it.

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>>36897308
Ogey cuckbeat.

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>>36890546
she can be with japanesus with this one easy trick

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>>36897358
/vt/ brainrot: the post

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>>36896931
>People have a lot of nostalgia for the first season of myth but honestly speaking their chemistry on stream was almost always non existent.
Stop trying to rewrite history. Myth's chemistry was its greatest strength which is why their full group collabs used to do insane numbers, why takamori was so popular, and why people begged for Gurame so much it made Ame mald. They had so much chemistry it moved Ina to fucking tears at their anniversary VR. But they didn't understand the true importance of their chemistry and instead of working to become closer to each other they allowed themselves to drift far apart. For sometimes very stupid reasons.

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>>36897314
Additional disclaimer is that you ought to take anything anyone says about Mori with the tiniest grain of salt

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>>36897314
Fact#1. Mori’s sister threw a surprise party when the Myth girls came over.

Fact#2. Myth has been more separated and distant now more then ever after the off collabs.

Everything else is speculations other than Gura hating the homos.

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>>36897437
>why takamori was so popular
We really gonna pretend they had chemistry now

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>>36897496
>#1
The party was only when Mori & Gura were there, prior to everyone else appearing. Said party was thrown without Mori's consent.

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>>36897496
Fact 2 is wrong, all of them except Gura haven't had a change in their relationship

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>>36897408
Mori is a eceleb chasing retard who highly values that twitter and streamer clout.

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>>36897547
>cuckbeat trying to blame gura
you love to see it

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>>36897558

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>>36897597
Are the cuckbeats in the room with us right now

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>>36897597
But it's true, the others collab just fine after the off collab

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>>36897640
Yes.

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>>36897640
Yes, and at least one of them is a tranny jannie.

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>>36896244
>responded to brittany
ventichama...
it's time to let go of the fact gura ghosted you...

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>>36890709
Can anyone blame her?

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>>36897738
I am sorry that you see skeletons everywhere.

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>>36897735
>>36897738
these niggas scared of skeletons

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>>36897892
>scared
didn't know that was a synonym for annoyed
the more you know, I guess

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>>36897311
Gura has at least pretty much dropped her and went back to ignoring her, just like she ignores everyone who's not in her SNOT clique etc.
Which is quite the difference from earlier times when those two used to collab quite often (well, often for Gura, at least), so much that it got even branded as the "bonebros". Come to think of it, that was also around the time "Q" was released, which in retrospect gives the impression all those "bonebros" collabs were just a calculated play by Mori to build up hype for the song (she needs bigname collabs nowadays, otherwise her songs don't get the views they used to) and as soon as that was done and over with she moves on to the next leeching victim

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>>36897971
It's okay
I get annoyed with my imaginary friend too

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>>36890546
>Hey, can the two of us hang out?
>Sure! *leaves socially awkward you alone at a party with strangers instead*

Gee, I wonder why people wouldn't want to hang out with her. It's crazy, it's such a low bar as far as trust goes, even just between co-workers, that no one would even consider that happening when you meet up for a get-together like this, especially in their position and with their job, when it adds the extra layer of doxxing and all that shit.

And the last part also hits the others as well. Even Ame or Ina probably wouldn't want to risk running into a few of Mori's weird "old college friends" or "buddies" she mentioned a few times and probably all know she is Mori and just "happen to be there", after what happened to Gura.

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>>36897989
Gura was the one who coined "bonebros", retard
Q also dropped months before Mori's song views declined
Actually holy shit, does anyone who posts in dogshit threads like these actually watch streams or even have any sense of time whatsoever?

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>>36896539
mori is a legit psycho

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>>36898030
Mori and Gura had been together the entire day prior to that and Gura just went to rest in one of the bedrooms.

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>>36898030
I get this feeling Mori was an otaku princess.

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>>36897989
>Come to think of it, that was also around the time "Q" was released
You say that but there were plenty of collabs before Q or after that KING cover so it can't all be shillings for her songs.

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>>36897308
>catalogfag
That's what you call a regular 4chan poster, newfag.

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>>36897314
most of this is legit

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>>36897449
lol deadbeat cope

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>>36898153
Most of this is the imagination of bored brown people

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>>36897314
>did something happen
You tell me bro

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>>36898194
t. seething deadbeat
still mad there are people who don't like your whiny whore?

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>>36898145
At least on other boards there's a plausible deniability that most of the posters actually engage with the content they're discussing. All of these catalog bait threads are just threadreaders parroting threadreaders to bait other threadreaders into having circular arguments about imaginary interpretations of events or complete hypotheticals. This board should have been generals-only and this useless pit of schizophrenia should be glassed.

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>>36898194
only brown people are deadbeats desu

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>>36897314
Most of what you read about her is true. The hate for this woman on /vt/ is real, and her yesmen are already preparing to shill her "3rd redemption" arc to try and save her, but she need to actually improve herself before they can.

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>>36898283
I challenge you to verify half of this shit

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>>36898333
This poster is trustworthy and has no bias or ulterior motive whatsoever

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>>36897437
nta, Myth chemistry was SHIT in the early days (and it's still kinda meh in a full group setting, but at least over time some individual people have gotten more comfortable with each other so the 1-1 collabs are at least bearable now). Seriously, go and try to rewatch some of them, they were so awkward, unsure and not in tune around each other, could barely hold a conversation flow, and it really showed that they were basically just five random people from different parts of the world who barely have anything in common, little mutual interests or personalities that vibe naturally well together, and talked to each other like autistic strangers (as they were) who're being forced together at a party.

People who think they actually had amazing chemistry back then are mostly deluding themselves out of some nostalgia fallacy (for example "current Holo EN is shit -> THEREFORE old Myth MUST have been better") or are just 2020 EOP babbys for whom Myth was their first entry into vtubers so they formed their standards based on those and wouldn't know what actual chemistry looked like, until much later when people who actually vibe well with each other came along.

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>>36897527
>We really gonna pretend they had chemistry now
Are you really going to pretend takamori was popular for no reason? Are you that dishonest, Anon?

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>get btfo in global
>run to the catalog to circlejerk
tale as old as time

[Anonymous No.]

why are chumbuds mad this time?

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>>36898467
holy cope

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>>36898588
holy cope

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>>36898281
how am I supposed to read this? what is it trying to convey?

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>>36898434
>Myth chemistry was SHIT in the early days
Objectively and hilariously wrong. You don't want to admit how good it was and how far they've fallen.

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>>36898125
And Gura had almost nothing to tell about it and Mori was afraid that Gura was scared of her.

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>>36891561
It worked when Kiara went to the US and she didn't even invite anyone other than making arrangements with Ame, of course.
She just flew over and all of Myth just showed up to see her swing her ass around. Even Fauna wanted to see her and Bae came from fucking Australia.

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>>36896328
>She almost doxxed all of them
No she did. No one was brave enough to go to the airbnb though.

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>>36890546
She really needs to learn to keep certain topics to herself. It feels like she's constantly one step away from pulling a Rushia.

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>>36898968
>Mori
>learning
Hah. Good one.

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>>36890546
Treat people like shit, they stop talking to you.

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>>36890709
because she got exposed as the protitute she is?

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>>36898434
Exactly.
>>36897437
I'm not trying to rewrite anything, myth had shit chemistry, the only reason it did insane numbers was because myth had the hololive brand attached to it.
People were getting recommended matsuri bandaid, people were getting recommended Fubuki scatman or Miku and Coco. English speaking vtubers really weren't a thing so after clips of Japanese vtubers blew up on YouTube, people were interested in finding out what this was all about. It helped that several people were working from home or temporarily laid off due to a global pandemic as well.

The only reason for the big noombers was that they were in the right place at the right time. Takamori was literally awkward as fuck. I'm a huge /u/fag, I'll admit it, but takamori is the only time a /u/ ship has made me honestly feel uncomfortable because of how hard Kiara tried to push it and how disinterested Mori was in even attempting to play into it.
Truthfully speaking, myth hasn't changed that much since debut, only difference is now there are more people in hololive and (You), the viewer, can see how poor the chemistry was between myth.

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>>36898074
Why the fuck would anyone watch Mori?

[Anonymous No.]

Is Mori the Asuka of vtubing?

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>>36899330
Miko* my fucking phone autocorrected sorry.
But point still stands

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>>36890546
Remember how Mori talked about getting bullied in her high school days? Turns out it's because she's a heinous bitch who doesn't really care about anyone but herself

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>>36898434
I was always amazed at the people who said Myth are best friends when it was so fucking obvious all of them were awkward as fuck around each other. ENfags are just 70IQ twitter refuse.

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>>36898194
90% of deadbeats are brown

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>>36890546
good

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>>36899620
I'm brown and I'm a chumbud. And I fucking hate Mori Calliope with a passion like you would have no idea. Why are people suddenly shitting on Gura?

Let's consider this for a moment. Both Mori and Gura have records of browsing both /a/ and /jp/ in the past. Both know what kind of audience are they, and which ones are the vtuber ones, OR AT LEAST what is appealing to them. Why would Mori do something that actual vtuber fans don't enjoy, while Gura does stuff that people enjoys? So far I keep seeing her most hogging around with the males, and the better part is that both Magni and Vesper are outmogging her in popularity nowadays, since one is filling the dad niche that she had, and the other one is just a friend who knows what to do.

end of the schizoposting

[Anonymous No.]

Mori is seething over having to buy the blue check off Elon lmao

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>>36899330
>the only reason it did insane numbers was because myth had the hololive brand attached to it.
Total cope. Myth was a smash hit because they had talent and wildly entertaining chemistry right out of the starting gate. Calling takamori awkward is especially delusional considering it was so popular that it still gets fan art and Mori is still known as dad to this very day even after Kiara formally ended it.

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>>36899872
>Mori is still known as dad
That's unironically Vesper now.

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>>36899454
See >>36898129

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>>36899872
>Myth was a smash hit because they had talent and wildly entertaining chemistry
...ENfags please reign your retard in

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>>36899986
He is not with us. ALL the true EN fags, aka US, knew that only one girl had talent. And that was unironically Ina since she is a good artist. Then Gura was discovered.

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>>36899986
I don't know why the truth upsets you but I'm glad it does because I subsist on your tears

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>>36898030
I get the feeling Moris "old friends" are the same people who shunned her and just see a leeching opportunity since Mori is extremely profligate on spending money on her beta orbiters.

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>>36890546
Good
The sooner she goes to Vshojo the better

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>>36900066
EN has always been trash and the only reason you slurped it up at the time was because you didn't do your reps and had no frame of reference to understand just how piss poor myth actually is. Sorry bro.

Also there's an element that in the early days it was justifiable to have hope for members like Mori who had little previous experience to improve a lot and hahaha you should not have those expectations anymore.

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>>36900173
which ones had experience then my nigga

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Everyday it becomes clear to me that the only reason Kiara and Mori's rms don't interact is because of Kiara

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>>36899872
Myth was unironically idol material, 5 random women thrown together, no support, not expecting to even get over 100k... They relied on each other a lot, the struggle brought them together.
Then they made it, council came, had a much easier time, and myth just fizzled out, what kept them together is poof
In a proper idol show the fans would cheer and be happy for their oshi as she graduates to do new stuff and expand her career. But in vtubing graduation is bad and becoming stale is somehow preferable

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>>36900213
Amelia was a small time vtuber on Twitch, Gura obviously. Ina had no experience as a vtuber but did art streams previously

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>>36899852
>it's true

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>>36900301
There's no reason things should ever become stale if you have members that put effort in. There's always new, unique content to be made.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LaDuoHDC_g

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>>36898455
>Are you really going to pretend takamori was popular for no reason?
Takamori was popular because of the same reason EN was popular
And the ship fucking died in the worst way possible by the hands of the talents, how on earth can anyone say they had chemistry?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900301
They're mainly streamers and it's fine to keep streaming to your usual 5k audience forever

[Anonymous No.]

Deserved. When she had the opportunity to do the unity she was lusting over ecelebs and doing RM shit, why should the others care about her coming with the tail beetwen her legs to ask them to do things with her??

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900408
>Takamori was popular because of the same reason EN was popular
Yes. Because it was entertaining.

[Anonymous No.]

What kind of mental illness does she have? How can we save her?

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>>36899872
I can't tell if you're baiting or just retarded, or both.
Myth was like the equivalent to owning 5 cats. Sure, they'll probably get along most of the time but 90% of they're better off doing their own thing by themselves. There really wasn't any sort of bond or even a "struggle" they were heavily boosted by a pandemic that kept everyone home and an algorithm that kept recommending hololive to people who hadn't heard of it.
Also just because something is popular doesn't mean that it's good, a new EA Sports game and Call of Duty comes out on almost a yearly basis, they sell more than 99% of all other video games and oftentimes have less features than the one that came out the year before. By your standards that must mean they're great, right?

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>>36897437
They're business friends, it was all for show.

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>>36895469
I stopped believing in Myth Unity a long time ago. Anyone who still sees them as a unit is either a newfag or completely delusional. They're a group in name only. Hell, they'd sooner collab with their kouhais rather than among themselves outside obligatory celebrations. We're not in 2020 anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

It's the old adage, "be kind to the people on your way up because you'll meet the same people on your way down." Mori didn't do that.

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>>36900576
Basically. I don't remember them ever talking about hanging out offline in VC or any real experiences about them being friends offline. Like sure there were incidents like the hotel trip Mori and Kiara went to but that was a pre established friendship and being in myth together almost seems to have pushed them further apart rather than closer together

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900520
>There really wasn't any sort of bond or even a "struggle"
Myth themselves have talked about bonding over their struggle. The bond was so real they used to get emotional and cry about it on stream. I don't know why you're so intent on denying the obvious truth but it's making my penis hard so keep going.

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>>36890546
>I say ghosted but it's really not that dramatic
OP, how often do you hang out with your coworkers, or friends, or family, or how much do you need to pay the prostitutes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900502
nta but not really IMO, it was amusing at first seeing Mori be so tsun and autistically yelling "no!!!!" but it got old and Mori was always just kind of a bitch, she was too autistic to read into the fact you're supposed to play along and/or was too insecure to even suggest acting even a little yuri-ish on-stream because she doesn't want anyone to mistake her as maybe being gay.

Part of that comes from the whole "not knowing literally fucking anything about Hololive and tete" deal but she just never fucking adapted or learned to not flip the fuck out over it either, which you think she would have caught on within a few weeks or months but nope. That should have been a warning sign about Mori overall, you can show her the ropes and how usual Holo stuff goes and she'll just go "no fuck you I'm not playing ball" and being a stick in the mud is a pretty bad trait for someone who is supposed to be part of a team. It's never a team with her, she is the fucking opposite of a team player and thus is fundamentally "ME ME ME" like 10x more than anyone else in EN, it's just not as transparently laid bare like people like to gaffe Kiara over.

[Anonymous No.]

loves suisei but hates mori, what do you call this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900514
>What kind of mental illness does she have?
Narcissism, masochism, autism, substance addiction
>How can we save her?
You can't

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900502
Whatever, that was subjective, I'll give you that. What isn't subjective is their awful relationship, they had no chemistry whatsoever and the ship died because of that

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>>36900811
Suisei is approximately 150x nicer and cuter than mori is what it is despite her having a kind of stronk woman bitchy side to her. She at least plays ball with the rest of Hololive generally while Mori is absolutely just a RM funneler and barely-conceals a permanent disdain for many of the guiding principles and setup of Holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900514
>>36900843
Only God can save an evil sociopath like her, unironically

[Anonymous No.]

>This thread using month old bait is still going
You guys must be reallly bored.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900787
>it was amusing at first
Exactly. Takamori was entertaining. Emphasis on was. It was so entertaining it even lingers beyond death.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900673
That was a business trip too.

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>>36900591
I never thought of it like that

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>>36899454
>high school days
Middle school days actually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900921
>evil sociopath
Now you are just trying too hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901411
People have been calling Mori a sociopath for a very long time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900811
Very different personalities, Suisei is what Mori should aspire to be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901475
Yeah and they don't know what sociopathy is actually like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36898281
I didn't realize how bad things really were

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900811
>>36900908
they both have that pushy self-promoter vibe, but Suisei's brand is self-made (even if she still got the Hololive boost) whereas Mori struggled for years and went zero to one on someone else's big tiddy art.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36890546
I like this girl a lot, but her path is a hard one, hope she make more friends and forget about the ones that ignore her

[Anonymous No.]

>>36901495
Yeah, mori has moderate BPD if anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900719
What "struggle" they all reached 1 million subs in less than a year and had several thousand donations within the first months.
There were literal wars to see who could send the most amount of money in the shortest amount of time.
They were breaking records in real time, gen 5 in Japan talked about how they were jealous of the instant success myth found. There was no "struggle" they gained so much money in their first year that by the end, I'd be shocked shitless if there was a single member who hadnt made a million dollars pre tax

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899872
Shork was the only real smash hit, everyone else mooched off her popularity by association, that's a fact. This is why every other girl has grown bitter, they know Gura is the only reason anyone gives a fuck about them in the first place.

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>>36902046
Looking back it this is kinda true. Everyone tried copying guras "A" and her choice of singing Ride on Time right off the bat was a really good choice. I to this day don't think there will ever be another debut week as strong as guras first week.
I don't watch gura these days but it's impossible not to see just how strong of a start she had

[Anonymous No.]

>>36890546
Trash is kept in the trash can, this is only a revolutionary concept to deadbeats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36890546
>>They hate me
Samedesu

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>>36896769
Welcome to /vt/

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>>36900394
That whole thing was a masterpiece of entertainment the likes of which I doubt we'll soon see again.

Marine being the center-piece of it is a cherry on top.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36890546
>>36890709
I'm still seething over the party and I won't stop seething until I get Scout back god damn it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903130
You will never be rescued by a brash tomboy that's eager to strip off her underwear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899852
Mori is still vulnerable to I SUPPORT THE CURRENT THING social pressure and the people exerting social pressure on her are waterbrained lefty fucktards having a stroke that somebody might say naughty words in their safe space.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36898434
The very early collabs are bad yes, i still remember that horrible mori gura duo and the very awful first myth collab right after ame's debut but it gets better after that
>>36899872
>right after the starting gate
t. only start watching myth after first 2 months
bet you are one of those people who thinks that one JPxENxID amongus collab was great because there are loud noises everywhere
Takamori IS awkward but the real reason why its also popular because y/u/rigods expects mori slowly accepts the ship later on and even taking the offensive, japs (and few clueless en artists) still draws the ship because they know little about en just like eop clipniggers still thinks pekomiko is alive wow what a surprise

[Anonymous No.]

>>36896539
>I'm too busy to make a community post or proper schedule
>I'm really stress out
I still don't understand how she's so "busy". At most vtubers stream like 3-5 hours for 4-5 days a week. Even when you factor in other shit like music, et cetera, their "work day" is at most half that of the average American.
What is supposedly eating up all of Mori's time?
There's a lot of youtubers and streamers with full time regular jobs who also keep up a stream/video schedule just fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904386
>What is supposedly eating up all of Mori's time?
Mori complained on trash taste (yes, I know) that she's very fed up of making thumbnails in her non-streaming time

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904386
I don't think Mori was ready for this kind of fame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36890709
>Gura is still seething over the party.
Seems Gura is just over her shit entirely as of rust stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904449
Ive never been a youtuber or a streamer or whatever, but throwing together some funny thumbnail image is something I could do in Photoshop in about 15 minutes

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904902
Yeah I know it sounded pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904386
>What is supposedly eating up all of Mori's time?
Trying to get her RM career off the ground.
She's going about it the worst way, fully expecting a graduation tier yab soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36904902
>>36904449
The bigger streamer (2K viewers) i watch all have people hired to make thumbnails, compilation clips, ect. So i guess she doesn't like it that her 3DPD don't have to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36905048
Most of these girls grab twitter fanart, slap text on it, boom thumbnail in 2 minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36905048
Doesn't Miko make her own?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36898768
Kiara is a stacey who just gets shit done. She organizes and arranges things making sure everything lines up. Mori just hopes it works out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36902545
>as strong as guras first week
Poor choice of words when this exists
https://youtu.be/cOo10ndXtmk

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>>36905048
Thumbnails are fucking baby-tier easy.
Take Mr Beast for example. All he has to do is take a few selfies of himself making a weird face, find a weird looking image, and then put a giant red circle or arrow next to it.
The views just some rolling in, the videos practically watch themselves.
Cali complaining about thumbnails makes no fucking sense. Besides, she's a streamer. Its not like she's pumping out pre recorded videos in the dozens and needs a lot of thumnails.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900301
This isn't the place for your fanfiction, pretty sure there's a general for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899454
>Bullied kids tend to be bullied for a reason
>This is somehow surprising

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>>36900843
I can save her

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>>36899454
So she's American?
No seriously all yanks have this self promotion snake oil salesman vibe to them.
Mori is just on the extreme end.
See it in Gura and Ame too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36897989
I remember the early days of Hololive EN where Kiara was blamed for all the leeching.
We were just a little off target.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36906143
I wouldn't still call Mori a leech because that word has lost it's meaning on this board long time ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36906261
For the most part this board is pretty off the mark on most things.
It's basically just a place for the most schizo parasocial unicorns who are completely incapable of comprehending normal human female interaction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899852
She 100% is. lmao

[Anonymous No.]

Mori is a fat talentless alcoholic whose insistence on pushing the Homos has caused damage to EN's numbers. This results in less money for the girls.

Imagine you are a lazy weeb girl. You land the job of a fucking lifetime, all you have to do is pretend to be a cute anime girl. That's it. You don't have to be good at games, just be cute. You don't have to be good at singing, in fact if you're bad at singing, people find it cute. You don't have to shake hands with your disgusting fans like real idols, in fact you don't even have to do the 2-3 meet and greets a year which are just on screen anyways. Mumei finally did one but opted out of all the others.

All you have to do is pretend to be a cute anime girl and shill your merch and memberships to lonely fags on the internet. And it works and you make more money in a year than you ever did in your previous shitty wagie jobs that actually made you work 40+ hours a week and nobody praised you for simple existing.

And then some fat alcoholic wigger, who never bothers keeping up kayfabe, or business yuri, who gets a record deal making terrible fucking cultural appropriations of rap music, starts pushing these fucking Homos and as a result a bunch of twitter trannies start harassing you about when you're going to be inclusive on this fucking diversity branch which a cut of your profits go towards keeping afloat. All the CGDCT enjoyers are put off by this and they are your main paying audience. Numbers fall across the board, not because of anything you've done but because the brand is now damaged. Now you make less money than you did before all cause a fat drunk couldn't fake being an actually attractive human being for a few hours a week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36899852
Mori doesn't own the account, Cover does.
Cover will likely pay to protect their IP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36906333
>It's basically just a place for the most schizo parasocial unicorns who are completely incapable of comprehending normal human female interaction.
Anon please, we aren't all you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36906478
>cultural appropriations

[Anonymous No.]

>>36906561
Sorry forgot to add "with no capacity for self awareness"

[Anonymous No.]

>>36906478
Now you are just blaming Mori for shit that she didn't even do.

[Anonymous No.]

You brown ass niggas manage to squeeze this much drama out of a 15s in a 4 week old video. This board deserves being catfished by you losers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36906906
Sorry dude, we're starved for drama so old bait will have to do

[Anonymous No.]

>>36906478
>cultural appropriations of rap music
Oh no, how will the world go on now that some woman "appropriated" precious nigger concrete jungle beats?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903586
Proof?

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>>36906333
>Everyone I don't like is *the most substanceless buzzwords I've heard all week*
You just blow in from Reddit, or Discord?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903130
Scout, my beloved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36906906
>Using brown as an insult while also saying "niggas"
Keep it up, one day you can be just as much of a wigger as Mori if you just keep trying. I believe in you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36890546
go on mori, victimize yourself after being an obnoxious colleague, shitty friend and self centered human being

[Anonymous No.]

>>36905308
this was from like 2 months after debut on a podcast that was basically a PR junket for cover, she's not going to talk about anything actually real lol. what an insane thing to bring up in 2022, the level of spite to remember something as minor as this is crazy

also as someone who uploads a youtube video once every 3 months, making thumbnails is the shittiest and most annoying part of it. straight grunt work, even if its just like a 5-10 min procedure. there's a reason big creators farm it out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36906653
Hey man just here to say this gif made it worth clicking on this exceedingly shitty thread. Thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>36898434
Most of the problem stims from the fact Gura, Ame, and Ina are all various degrees of retarded shut-ins who have no social skills whatsoever. Especially Gura and Ame who both are cripplingly shy and awkward around others. Gura being the worst offender of this in general and Ame turning into a sack of bricks the nanosecond shes in any collab that isn't specifically Myth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36907343
You can use nigga even when you aren't wigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36900908
>bitchy
How so? I'm biased, but the worst you can say about her is she's weird and very stubborn. Both of which I think are endearing.

>>36901531
There really isn't an issue with self promotion when your work is entertainment focused on gaining and retaining subs, getting sponsorships, etc. She self promotes, but she doesn't sell you GFE, she doens't shit on her fans, she doesn't cause yabs and she's very professional and hard working. e.g. sending recordings back within an hour or so after people request you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36907845
>she doesn't sell you GFE
A literal warcrime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36892857
It seems like it is the case and you wish it wasn’t. But it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36908001
Do you even watch Kiara?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36907899
I get why since she's amazing. But she doesn't want fans like that and wants people to love her for her music so I respect it. She even had staff removed jiggle physics from her 3D after people spoke about her tits instead of her singing.
Again I really respect Suisei for not going with the easy route and doing tons of fanservice or GFE.

[Anonymous No.]

I was beginning to think Hololive was a lost cause but maybe there's still hope left for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36908101
>fanservice or GFE.
BUT I WANT IT
NOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>36908101
>She even had staff removed jiggle physics from her 3D after people spoke about her tits instead of her singing.

What a party pooper, Kronii syndrome is infectious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36907606
Maybe you're just inexperienced. I'm not a youtuber, but I use a lot of the adobe suite. making pictures in Photoshop and illustrator is simple and easy. The hard part is the actual video editing in premiere and after effects. Now that's super tedious and annoying. an experienced person in adobe suite can shit out thumbnails like nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36908391
Can't really imagine Kronii's mentality here. They have to review their models right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36907791
Adopting the speech patterns of niggers while also using their skin color to insult them is textbook wigger shit anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36908470
Yeah but they get very limited input on them.
Gura actually explained this in a decent amount of detail a while back. Mainly focused on her lack of bottom teeth.
Seems the general concept and majority of the design is done pretty early on possibly before they're hired.
After that they get to see it and make requests for minor changes. Keyword minor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36908391
It was before kronii.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHvIxdpO2FM

[Anonymous No.]

>>36908613
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure, "Yeah, take these basketball boobs down a few notches," definitely fits the bill for a changeable attribute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36908676
Nothing minor about those. Plus remember management reserves the right to tell them to shut the fuck up and like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36908767
>Kronii gets new model
>Tits are even bigger and only covered by a ribbon

[Anonymous No.]

>>36908676
Those models are expensive and time consuming to make. Also I'm pretty sure doing any changes like that would make the entire model break down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36908887
>"Kronii. Focus group testing has shown that your voice and general personality pairs extremely well with gigantic breasts."
>"But I'm a menhara korean feminist and hate big boobs"
>"Awww I'm sorry did the little baby have an opinion? Did the little dog eating syrup slurping gook think we give a shit? Here's your new breasts."
>"These are like ten times the size of my head"
>"Great isn't it?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>36909049
>"FINE I'LL START COLLABING WITH MALES!!!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>36908454
yea I find that part fun and creatively fulfilling. the thumbnail is the transactional part that im obligated to do and i hate it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36909284
>"Shut the fuck up Kronii! Your fanbase is comprised entirely of absolute losers who are intimidated by holostars yet still desperately hold out hope that they'll someday somehow have sex with you but refuse to accept used goods. You will never talk to a man. EVER."

[Anonymous No.]

>>36908676
What's even the point of making them smaller?
Unironically, make her fully flat or don't bother.
She'll otherwise still hate them anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36908613
People and the talents themselves say this but theres too many weird situations where talents basically got the perfect model for themselves.
>Ina got a model drawn by her all time favorite artist that she simps hard for
>Sana got a model drawn by one of her single favorite artists that basically drew most of her favorite characters in her favorite IP
>Kiara got a model drawn by an artist she really liked too
You have outliers for sure but it seems odd that theres several examples of holomembers basically getting handed their dream models.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36890546
Actually kind of worried about her. I actually think if drama was a little more out in the open, it could be more easily solved. All this shit being behind the scenes makes it hard to determine what even happened.

Yeah, Gura didn't like the party, but that certainly wasn't the only thing. How did every other American HoloEN come to hate her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36909649
Americans hate their own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36909519
The entire point isn't the boobs. She absolutely could have opted for smaller boobs. The point is she wants to hurt her fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36909649
Only one common denominator, and she already admitted she was a shit friend to Kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36908470
>>36909049
>>36909284
I am pretty confident I have never seen Kronii complain about her model/design once since debut. Im really not sure where this idea she hates her model comes from? At least Anya vocally stated some dislike of being an oppai loli

[Anonymous No.]

>>36890546
I think her bad behavior just caught up to her. She shit talks Hololive all the time. Why did she think her "friends" who are all in Hololive, would just keep putting up with it? She's also the definition of insincere. Kind of reminds me of how Nina tried to frame 3 of the other Niji girls as being bad and evil and excluding her, when really they were a friend group prior to joining lol. I am getting the same vibes here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36909524
Ina hates how lewd her default is with the boob window and stopped the tentacles pretty quick.
Ollie wasn't a fan of her model at first since it looked so different.
IRyS clearly hates hers.

What I find more interesting is how much input girls have on things like themes. Maybe Sana was bullshitting but I was genuneely dissapointed she didn't do any astronomy content, but Fauna being as plantlike as she is andbeing Nature itself is fitting considering she's vegan, she's even green.

>>36909741
People think she hates her model because she tends to cover her boobs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36908887
>>36908767
>>36909049
She will simply move her model down or put something over them like she does now, but yes she absolutely deserves to be treated like eye candy simply because reminding her that she's a breedable woman lusted over by men makes her deluded brainwashed troonified mind suffer great agony. She will never be a man and no matter how much she tries to be a dude someone will dick her down (again) eventually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36909826
They should give Irys a recolored Mano Aloe model.
Would anyone actually care if they did?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36909826
Notice how the koreans both hate their models for lewd elements.
Fucking menhara korean feminists

[Anonymous No.]

>>36906478
Bravo, this really sums up the shit going on.
Mori poisoned the well for everyone else.
Even girls that never collabed with the guys are suffering the consequences because the whole company branch is now in this awkward position she put it.
"Will they collab with guys too? Will they do it a lot? Will it just become Nijisanji lite?"
Vtubers are a commitment, people need reassurance to get emotionally and financially invested in it. Hololive was a cute girls company, reliable brand, people could trust it and knew what to expect from it, there was no risk.
But now a potential a customer will second guess himself before going deep into HoloEN because why get invested in a cute girls company if it might just become a mixed sexes experience at some point, the brand trust is lost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36909524
Gura and her model are a match made in heaven.
A cute blue loli smug shark, it fits so perfectly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36903130
Seething over the part is lame but seething over scout is pretty based, honestly what should happen is that a pseudo final should happen off screen and then mori should bring back the girls for 3 well planned sessions to get back together and then actually finish things

[Anonymous No.]

>>36909826
I think Ina talked about the tentacles. They just cover too much of the game screen or at least that's her excuse.
The boob covering isn't that uncommon in Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36909524
>Gura gets her design made by a literal no one and she makes her life

[Anonymous No.]

imagine the smell

[Anonymous No.]

>>36909924
I had a Korean co worker who told me that korea is a dystopia, and that every Korean man's dream is to go to the US. now he's married to a white chick. Korean women are radioactive

[Anonymous No.]

>>36909826
>disliked how lewd her default is
>its no lewder than any of the other characters that artist drew for FGO
>Abby is Ina's favorite FGO character
>She loves that artist
>she's into cultured art in general and played into it
The only reason she doesn't use the tentacles is because they quite literally take up like 70% of the fucking screen. They are comically oversized.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36910172
The gd irony. Korean men running to the US to escape, men in the US running to Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36910172
I for one can't wait to see the outcome of westerners dating/marrying Koreans because of kpop making them so popular, only to find out they have now married into a literal cult.

>>36910229
Japan is also fucked. If Japanese women were the fantasy people expected you wouldn't have multiple girls turning 30 and getting depressed over no husband/bf. Dating everywhere is fucked, we just idolize other countries because the language barrier keeps people in the dark.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36909524
Wasn't Reine a massive Pochi fan in general? We also have examples like Gura who's design was basically perfect for her? Like a literal 1 to 1 match? Theres no shot thats just fully random with the designs already fully drawn. Like I refuse to believe it works like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36890546
Quit collabing with Holostars once and for all. Apologize and ask for forgiveness. They may give you a second chance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36910307
How the fuck did it get this bad, bros?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36910172
Yeah basically south korea is a trainwreck of a country.
It has extreme social stratification to an extent that would make even US billionaires blush.
Outright corporate feudalism in some areas.
Cults out the wazoo. Can't go more than a few meters in Seoul without tripping over a cult recruiting operation. One of their recent presidents was in a cult and letting her cult leaders daughter run the country.
Extreme pressure to succeed even by asian standards. Mainly because your place in that social stratification depends heavily on your income. For most of the population the best case scenario is doing well enough in school to get into one of the major companies as a corporate serf. Where you will live in company housing, have a company bank account, use only the company products where applicable, etc. And in exchange you will work yourself into an early grave in quiet desperation to keep it.

Then there's the feminists. You think American feminists are bad?
Bruh south korean feminists are fucking insane.
I forget the name they have as a movement but they're completely bugfuck crazy and hate men to such an extent it is quite absurd.

>>36910307
To be fair one reason white guys have a much easier time in Japan is they're prepared to put in the effort to pull.
Japanese women aren't active and need to be approached. They see themselves as a fortress to be conquered by some brave samurai.
Problem is modern Japanese society basically castrates its men and those it can't castrate it either breaks or diverts their energy into the corporate sphere. So they don't try to conquer fortresses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36910394
Society is collapsing on a global scale. Kick back with your oshi and enjoy the ride.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36910394
We forgot about God

[Anonymous No.]

>>36909924
>>36909828
Where the fuck does these autistic Kronii is a turbo feminist tranny takes come from? She just once stupidly claimed to be genderfluid years ago (which isn't even remotely the same as being a tranny in any way)

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>>36910658
Korean women are almost always turbo feminists.

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>>36910307
>we just idolize other countries
Correct. Everyone has a "grass is greener on the other side" mentality. The truth is that US, CAN, AUS, and west Europe are the best places to live. (even with their myriad problems)
Japan has basically had their fate sealed after the Plaza Accords and is probably due for societal collapse within the end of the century.

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>>36910699
Everywhere is due a collapse around the middle of the century when the developed world population crash reaches its tipping point.

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>>36909049
Based staff-san.

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>>36910520
>Le boogeyman korean feminists
>in Korea
Yeah anon I wonder if them being so insane over there has anything to do with South Korea being statistically one of the single most anti-women countries on earth

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>>36910692
Yeah cause Koreaa manages to somehow compete with the middle east shithole nations when it comes to gender equality

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>>36910394
The false flag war to take all your money, food and what's left of your rights hasn't even started.

>>36910658
Chris was a "tomgirl" and only a couple of years later he trooned out, Cosmo used to only paint his nails and drink onions milk yet trooned out shortly after losing his GF. Unless Kronii gets a turbo chad to dick the crazy out of her she's gonna go down the slippery slope, her "subway" phase is a cry for help, she has a massive identity crisis and emotionally vulnerable people like this are easy prey for transexual sex pests to groom .

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>>36910899
>south korea
>among the most anti-women countries
lol. lmao even
Sure, maybe if you drop the entire third world and the entire muslim sphere, your statement would be true.

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>>36910962
>>36910899
Realistically I'd say South Korea is more "anti-human" rather than anti-woman.
It doesn't matter who or what you are. Unless you have lots of money and influence you're going to be walked all over by everyone who can get away with it.
The main difference is that women have something men want that isn't just their labour.
So the landlord decides he's doubling your rent. If you're a man your choices are pay or leave. If you're a woman your choices are pay or leave but you have an option in how you pay.
And the landlord gets away with it either way because he has greater social status and wealth than you.

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>>36910899
They had a literal cult of feminists caught running government behind the scenes. Please STFU.

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>>36910394
Consoomerism, unironically. Resulted in massive scale low-test men. This lead to an insane push for ultra left-wing "progressive" social politics because it benefits the top 20% of men who get to call all the shots and ensures they have access to all of the pussy they can get, then you get people like Andrew Tate telling normie men they can do it too if they follow his example, but the reality is that even if we do, someone else gets pushed below the top 20% line, and the underlying problem persists, just for different people.

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>>36910520
>Japanese women aren't active and need to be approached. They see themselves as a fortress to be conquered by some brave samurai.
Marine, Choco, Matsuri, etc... None of these women are passive.

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>>36911040
Honestly a good chunk of the muslim world treats women a lot better than south korea treats anyone.

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>>36890546
At least she has all tempiss cock for herself. Happy now?

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>>36911040
nta but hes actually mostly right. South Korea on muiltiple metrics does for some reason have a comically high reported sexism in the workplace number. Like they are top 10 in the world in sexism/bigotry to the point they are in the same ballpark as India and Saudia arabia. Its just a shithole in general

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>>36911032
No one cares about women being trannies. That's just women being crazy like they always are.
Men being trannies is much more damaging because they push their sexual paraphilia on children

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>>36910520
>get into one of the major companies as a corporate serf. Where you will live in company housing, have a company bank account, use only the company products where applicable, etc. And in exchange you will work yourself into an early grave in quiet desperation to keep it.
Holy shit, perfectly describes the literal socialist ideal, except the claim that you "own the product of your labor" but in reality, the leadership of whatever organization you're part of just ends up owning you.

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>>36911245
That's mainly a reporting quirk caused by their society being extremely fucked up and their whacky homegrown feminist cults.

>>36911215
Online where its safe.
But then these women being active/aggressive in romantic affairs can be very off putting in a society where women are generally passive.
Plus as mentioned their men are castrated so they're easily spooked.
Basically if Marine targeted a white guy living in Japan she'd probably bag herself a husband fairly easily.

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>>36911245
see: >>36911164

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>>36911040
>>36911164
Korea is anti life anon. It really is so fucking miserable over there that in multiple fields its like 8th in the world alongside the muslim nations. Something went catastrophically wrong at some point over there
>>36911158
this anon gets it

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>>36909826
>I was genuneely dissapointed she didn't do any astronomy content
she did a bunch of funny astrology streams and all her universe simulator streams were kino and she actually was decently knowledgable about space.

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>>36911391
Well, I've been there, and you're wrong. So there's that.

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>>36911369
>>36911371
Its not so much a reporting quirk so much as they actively hate everyone period over there. There are countless places that wont even let you enter them if your not korean.

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>>36911360
Kids over there literally kill themselves for failing to get scholarships from the big corps.
The situation is so fucked that failure there basically means you're doomed to misery and poverty unless your family is already at a good point.

>>36911436
Did you live there or just go around the tourist spots?

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>>36911494
>There are countless places that wont even let you enter them if your not korean.
You think you're owed entry into someone else's culture, anon?

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I’ve read some places that outside of big cities South Korea is basically North Korea tier, not sure how true that is though.

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>>36911326
Trannydom in women is tragic and sad, specially in beautiful ones.

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>>36911391
>Something went catastrophically wrong at some point over there
Yeah the Korean war and the creation two artificial vassal states, one for china and one for the US.
The south and north Korean governments and their current societal structures were never organic.

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>>36911546
>Did you live there or just go around the tourist spots?
I was there for two years. Not only are you pulling shit out of your ass, but there's actual evidence proving you wrong. On top of that, modern polls and media are highly suspect.

But go off.

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>>36911188
>muh incel talking points
>muh 20% of men get all the pussy argument
>muh /pol/tard lingo in general

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>>36907161
At risk of getting lynched by jannies: A certain rapper has a certain twitter where you can read the proof you are asking for.

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>>36911572
Bruh even in Seoul you got slums.
But to give you an idea of how fucking weird the country is: Approx half the population live in the Seoul metro area.

>>36911617
What were you doin out there bruh?
Foreigners get a pass on a lot of the bullshit because koreans tend to be more scared of them clapping back.

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>>36911215
Adding Aki and Noel, you got maybe 5 women out of ~50 that would qualify as "forward" with their sexuality. I'm not sure how you think this would be proving your point.

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>>36911391
>Something went catastrophically wrong at some point over there
yea, the single most brutal war in living memory followed by being a military dictatorship puppet state for decades parlayed directly into being the most brutal no holds barred implementation of capitalism anywhere on the planet that makes america look like a workers paradise.

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>>36907161
Her own mouth.

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>>36910195
She should put them on for watchalongs.

In 2023...

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>>36911581
90% the time it's just some menhera chick shaving her head and wearing flannel and jeans. Then after a year or two she forgets all about it. the number of female "tranagenders" who actually go through medication and surgery is so small, it's insignificant

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I love how a ton of /pol/tards broke containment to splurge about South Korea when its just one of the most miserable nations on earth period. Like why would you ever try and defend that hellscape? Like just about everything over there is broken in some way

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>>36911625
You're either a roasty and literally part of the problem, or a tranny faggot who is out of the loop of reality, and it would be most appropriate for all of society for you to use that loop on yourself.

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>>36911783
/pol/acks generally hate south korea.
The one posting the fairly long posts on it is almost certainly a /pol/ack based on what he's focused on.
But then it's also important to remember that /pol/ is not one person and whatever you think about it is probably incorrect, yes even if you've spent a lot of time on it.

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>>36911783
>boogeymen!

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>>36911572
kek. reminds me of that high-level north korean government defector who went to south korea and was super remorseful, stating he should never have left

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>>36911783
I am a /pol/tard and I love Ollie

>>36912004
Realistically being a high up guy in North Korea is a better life than most people in the developed world are gonna get.

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>>36911032
>Kronii likes women? Nah she just needs a good dicking to fix that!
>All it takes is one chad pounding the sense back into her
>What? Ive never had sex or been near any women my entire life? How'd you know?!
every time

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>>36912129
Nietzsche once said: "Women have two problems. The solution to both is pregnancy."
Unfortunately he never elaborated on what said problems were

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>>36890546
Free speech against Mori is allowed now. And that's a good thing. Pink women bad, except Koyo

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>>36911906
>never been near a woman
>never talked to a woman
>never even touched a woman
>claims to know how women work and how the world works when it comes to sex
incels are something else

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>>36890546
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA FUCK YOU RETARD GO BE INSECURE WITH THOSE TEMPISS COCKS AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THEY SURE WON'T MIND IT ONE BIT AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FUCK YEAH

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>>36911910
No one likes South Korea. Even south Koreans hate it

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oh great the incels showed up again. How long till the thread devolves into talking about dick sizes and cuck porn?

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>>36912182
The problems were, "Men and women."

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>>36912271
Anon discussing dick size is a 4chan staple. Its unavoidable on here

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>>36890709
Gura got fat dick in her pussy that night. She is begging Calli to invite her to the next party

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>>36912418
the only correct way to measure penises is with the formula π(r^2)h

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>>36912271
>duh incels
Every time

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>>36912129
Homosexuality is a neurochemical disorder, that's why antipsychotics actually cure it. To be fair Korean men and women aren't that distinct, if anything the women are more masculine than the men, it makes sense that she would rather go for a lady than a ladyboy.

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>>36912200
>never been near a woman
>never talked to a woman
>never even touched a woman
You might want to turn off your projectors.

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>>36912598
Speaking of South Korea and cocks. The average dick size in South Korea is 3 inches. What the actual fuck happened there?

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>>36912852
>heres a bunch of factually incorrect statements that I made up to hide the fact the idea of women being unavailable to me makes my cry at night
yeah anon dont worry I understand. If it helps any you wouldnt get to fuck your oshi even if she was both straight and an actual whore.

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>>36912927
Why do you get so defensive Kronii, I don't give a flying fuck about you. All I'm saying is that you oughta find a dude with a penis over 2 inches so that you can stop being such a fucking bitch. Or you could stay with an equally toxic korean bitch so you can murder each other the moment you realize you're both childless barren old hags who no one likes.

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>>36912927
>factually incorrect statements
Homosexuality literally was classified as a mental illness until they reclassified it because it hurt peoples feelings. It fits every criteria to be a mental illness, including a notably much higher rate of comorbidity with other mental illnesses in the gay population.

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>>36913280
>why was this previously outdated science updated with more modern science?
>must be the jews!
I can smell the /pol/ radiating off you from a mile away. Please remember that /pol/ is a containment board so dont break containment faggot

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>>36913463
>muh modern BASEDence
lmao

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>>36913463
>Sidesteps the obvious facts
>Literally says shit like ""outdated science" and "modern science"
>Suddenly brings up the jews out of no where despite no one bringing them up
TRUST THE SCIENCE

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>>36913270
Not everyone neess children to be happy, in fact, there'a cases where having children ruins lives

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>>36913611
stop. you're making kronii upset

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>>36913463
There's a containment board for freaks like you but funnily enough you're never in it, you infect all the other boards yet have the audacity of claiming anyone who doesn't submit to your faggy demands must be censored and banned everywhere so that only your voice can be heard. You don't own glowchan completely yet and you will never control us so go KYS.

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>>36908391
>>36908642
jesus christ, the secondhand cringe from that newfag was unbearable

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>>36911783
If you got something to say to /pol/ maybe you should go there and say it instead, faggot.

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>>36914122
maybe you 2 IQ retards should instead just stay there in shitty little prison cell where you all belong instead of showing up to shit up other boards. Im here to discuss vtubers not trannies and incel shit

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>>36914180
>Im here to discuss vtubers
Yet you are, at this very moment, bitching about another board instead of doing that.

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>>36913614
Let's just memoryhole all of the 40+ year women who kill themselves out of desperation, when they have no family, men ignore them and they hit menopause. That is a sad but deserved ending, it has become extremely common in the present, specially in asian countries.

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>>36914212
its hard to discuss anything when the last 40 plus posts have been about south korea being ran by the femnazi illuminati and trannie shit

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>>36914180
go start up a vtuber thread on crystal cafe, then

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>>36914274
That's what filters are for. If you hate the topic don't engage in it.

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>>36914294
literally nobody likes you /pol/fag. You were all thrown in an echo chamber for a reason. Go cry about dick sizes and bone structure there.

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>>36914212
Every board is leftypol, the mere mention that prominent "professional" vtubers are ruining the experience for everyone by injecting their cancerous dogma warrants a raid and flooding by this faggots to silence the discussion.

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>>36914348
Im not even the "polfag" you were talking to, faggot

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>>36914348
>literally nobody likes you /pol/fag. You were all thrown in an echo chamber for a reason. Go cry about dick sizes and bone structure there.
Baby dicked marxist S0Iboy triggered lmao

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>>36914231
>what is societal pressure?

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>Thread talking about how not even Mori's own co-workers like her
>Kronii gets mentioned and also talked about to be unlikable
>Some minor talk about Korea and how it fucks with Koreans heads, explaining why she's a menhera and probably going to end up like Mori like in clip related
>Deadbeats and Clockcucks unite to derail the thread screeching about /pol/

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>>36910394
Feminism. And we didn't behead bankers when they fucked up.

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>>36892857
Sorry but that's not going to work, mori chose to be a bad friend and kiara has been through enough "business friends" in her life

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>>36897308
Anon it might by hyperbolic but it's also all true

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>>36897314
The sad thing about mori is nothing is really embellished about her like it is for other girls