/vtwbg/ - VTuber Worldbuilding General

[Anonymous No.]

Previous Thread: >>36533814

What if your general was not just a general but a nation, devoted to your oshi and their will? Enter this general where the fanbases and generals of /vt/ are reimagined as countries interacting with each other through means peaceful and militant alike!

Pink Apocalypse Edition

Interactive map:
https://vtwbg.github.io/

Introductory document for new anons:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-intro

CURRENT GOALS:
- Have No Goals
- Have Goals

>Note that the map isn't set in stone.
>Greentexts and Flags of your general in /vt/ land are much appreciated.
>Try to keep hornyposting, socposting and funposting to the absolute maximum until we hit the bump limit.
>Please think twice before posting if you're intoxicated or feeling moody.
>Ignore any trolls or falseflaggers. Molest, hide and move on.
>Don't press anons on their identity if you are not willing to give yours back.
>Don't be a dick to other writers. If an argument does not directly concern you, stay in your lane and worldbuild.

THREAD REP TRIPCODES:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-rep-trips

CLIMATE & TECTONICS POSTS (AIDS LORE/PLACEMENT):
Ocean Currents:
https://rentry.org/rvqz9
Weather Systems:
https://rentry.org/nnvbx
Climate Analysis:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-climate
Tectonic Plates and their Movements:
https://rentry.org/dmkyc
Geologic Provinces:
https://rentry.org/ztaf99

CURRENT MAGIC SYSTEM:
https://rentry.org/chuubanite

FLAG POSTS:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-flags

LORE ARCHIVE:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HM_UK-qNKXQgFH-ixcWsCC3oAgBnFrxCKRPXdKiPMwQ/edit

[Anonymous No.]

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/VTWBG/ HISTORY
Anchor post for events in the /vtwbg/ canon timeline.
Reply to this post or commentate directly in the sheet suggestions for events to add to the timeline.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18-HH-xmC_qxOS3ZV0Ssxzb1mDA0xVKv31yMDLWo_pEo/edit

[Anonymous No.]

Anchor post for issues to be voted on next time.

>Vote Results
https://rentry.org/VoteResultsOctober28th(most recent)
https://rentry.org/usgxq
https://rentry.org/or3ub
https://rentry.org/t7gqwu
https://rentry.org/b5gex
https://rentry.org/44do6
https://rentry.org/np9ke
>Bylaws
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-bylaws
>Vote post archive
https://rentry.org/ofx2x

[Anonymous No.]

CURRENT PROMPTS
Feel free to submit your own prompts to inspire others!
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-prompts

Also, be sure to anchor your ideas for continent and ocean names here so we can discuss them.
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>Special
Tourist's Guide to Vitubia:
https://rentry.org/ziuog
If you wish to contribute to this, please submit a short text that introduces your nation by replying to this post.

[World Exploring Sanalite !BhGStmx/vE No.]

What kind of dinosaurs does /voms/ want to domesticate? I can think of Aponoth from Monster Hunter as a domesticated dinosaur.

>hardy
>meaty
>bones for building materials
>easy tempers
>dumber than cattle
>breeds lots of offspring by laying eggs
>strong enough to pull wagons and farm tools like oxen

Should be easy to find a dinosaur like that to domesticate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36689159
Kino creation myth, reading it put a smile on my face. Attributing the hydrosphere to Kronii, which represents movement is the main agent for phenomenon marking the passage of time on landscapes was clever, beside the white snake translating seamlessly to rivers. Good stuff. The creation message is reminiscent of this project's purpose as a whole too. I like it!

[Cunt !.Q010oIZDo No.]

>>36690350
Wait till I flesh out the fragments of the great spirits as actual tangible creatures. That's the aspect I decided to go with in the end for the Council animals.

[Anonymous No.]

https://rentry.org/vtwbg-vnuglore#history
I updated the history lore a bit to include the Remlins, will work on their religion and magic soon

[Anonymous No.]

The interactive map should now be up to date with the latest vote result, though /rrat/ will retain their original borders for now until I get a chance to reformat the province map for 2.0.

At this time, I would like to ask the thread to have a moment of silence for /bakatare/. May they one day be repped. F

In other news, https://vtwbg.github.io/ now has a colorblind-friendly toggle for the climate map. Also, to future bakers, make sure to add a space after the link in >>36689299 since it's broken when you click it atm.
>https://rentry.org/VoteResultsOctober28th(most recent)

[Anonymous No.]

didn't get a chance to say it before but Retro Reich would obviously inform Risuners about the Toll and retro actively, for when they came to visit us the first time, we would have send someone to the toll to escort them and pay the toll for them since we expected them as guests.

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>>36690940
Fun, do you know what direction you want to take the rat? Or is that going to be the brrats?
>>36691189
Mapanon love!
>>36691650
>retro actively
heh

[Cunt !.Q010oIZDo No.]

>>36691789
Actually, Rat would be the only one without a fragment on earth. Kinda. While the other spirits left and left a fragment behind, Rat stayed with the creature(brrats) and just kinda chilled. So while rats in general would be considered sacred animals, there wouldn't be a giant Rat beast that governs them, unlike the Lord of the Sky for example, which would be the "patron deity" of Mother Owls.

Basically, what this myth establishes is that while the other spirits are not here anymore, their fragments are, and in the religion they would be known as Lords of Mountains/Rivers/Forests/Sky respectively. The Rat on the other hand would take on the role of Lord of Souls, since ya know, it kinda gave it to us. I'd have to explain this a bit more, but it's 2am here, and it's time to get some mc'ds.

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>>36689159
Ah the good ole dismemberment route, love those. I also wanted the original creation myth to have a bit more to do with spirits and god like beings rather than one supreme being. Though the present religion would likely de-emphasize that and instead focus more on the actual historical records to answer the question of creation. Maybe the creation myth for all 3 council nations in the North West have very similar creation myths, just different versions of it. But that would also depend on the saplings.

Tangential but kinda funny you didn't go for the primordial egg route for its association with chaos.

>>36691189
F, and thanks as always.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36692200
Makes sense, I was thinking with the setup it made sense for the rrat deity to be linked to humans instead of a beast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36692210
Well, our creation myth's quite a bit different, so any similarities would be very long reaches there. Dunno what the saplings have planned.

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>>36692728
Wait we only have what created Mumei right? I'm not aware of any creation myth that explains the creation of humanity and the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36692916
Well that solves that then. Adopt mine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36692916
What I've currently planned is a primordial soup thing that eventually gets developed into the world as we know it, either by conflict of the other girls or by it being nudged by them.
Humans don't have a unique origin compared to other animals, as fauna made all life, rather, human development was such that it broke out of fauna's control and Mumei is formed.
I can't remember how much of that I wrote down.
>>36692954
Nah, it doesn't quite work out for us.

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>>36693066
Ah. I'll leave that part to you then.

[Anonymous No.]

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>>36696438
Ohh, is she starting WfM from episode 1?

[World Exploring Sanalite !BhGStmx/vE No.]

I guess I can look at the climate map to see what we're dealing with for Alice. I know there's /2434/ am I also looking at NijiEN, NijiMale, or whatever its called?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36696744
Yes I just posted in the wrong thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>36701590
Neat, I'll have to drop in for that.

[Anonymous No.]

Kokone did her first ASMR, life’s good
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-vnuglore#dreamwalkers
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-vnugbio#dreamwort
I wrote more about Kokone’s worshipers! I think I’ll wait until I got an answer for >>36685917 (You) (Cross-thread) before writing some of the more advanced stuff they can do but so far they’ll mostly be meditative although I guess the skill set should translate well to herb-growing and medicine

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>>36705430
Ohh, dreams, huh? Hmm dreams are already established to be a state of mind where one is closer to the supernatural, both IRL and in Vitubia, where information from the Heavenly Realm can be received through them. Then if you use chuubanite, perhaps you could manipulate your dream state to peek into someone else's dream by reading it from the Heavenly Realm. Kinda like a man-in-the-middle attack where you intercept the dreamer's transmissions to the Heavenly Realm.
If you were an advanced user, you could even perhaps create a magical construct that feels like the Heavenly Realm, and have the dreamer dream fully in a Realm under your control. With the analogy, that would be like tricking a client into connecting to your own fake server instead of the real server. Shit, is this how we get Netrunners into Vitubia? Or stuff like Inception. I didn't see that part of the post somehow...

[Anonymous No.]

>>36705799
for >>36705637

[Anonymous No.]

>>36705799
I tried reading that part of the chuubanite rentry but I still don’t know what’s going on in that which is why I asked for help, but if it’s possible and not too OP then it sounds like it should work!
I did have Paprika and Inception in mind when thinking about that but I don’t know how plausible it is. I think it’ll at least require a controlled environment filled with specific organic vapor to enter an advanced state like that so it probably can’t be abused too much (maybe?) and a shared dream might require all participants to share a room or otherwise be in the exact same environment for it to work? I think it’s more meant for balance than anything based on existing physics/biology. I think they have something similar in Wheel of Time but I haven’t read it yet
I don’t know why I’m being extra cringe lately. I blame a lack of Liorium

[Anonymous No.]

>>36706206
The relation of the metaphysics system to dreams is very under-developed, so we're kind of treading new ground. But the QRD on it is that the Heavenly Realm can be seen a server, which serves magic to clients.
The clients take the form of chuubanite, and magic entities.
All beings have at least a tiny fraction of themselves in the Heavenly Realm; call it their soul if you want.
Since dreams have a precedent for being used to communicate things with the Heavenly Realm, I think it's fair to say a dream can be an opportunity for a Soul to connect to the Heavenly Realm.
The challenge when trying to share a dream with someone would be how to connect to their Soul. If the two Souls are separate, there is no way they could find one another in the immense Heavenly Realm.
So as you say, chuubanite (which can act as a client for the Heavenly Realm server) can be used here to connect the two dreaming Souls, essentially creating a Local Network which connects to the Heavenly Realm. I think that works well!

A possibility for sharing a dream at a distance: one of the dreamers would need to be infused with a lot of conceptual energy, so that once they connect to the Heavenly Realm, they emit a signal that can be picked up by another aware dreamer. That is perhaps how chuubas communicate divinations to their followers. In Vitubia, that might look like putting the dreamer in some kind of chuubanitic device (A dreaming throne?) or injecting them with a near lethal dose of chuubanite. There are parallels with /asp/otheosis.

For those two options, what you'd be doing would be sharing a dream, so you'd be able to exchange information on an even footing with other dreamers, perhaps use manipulation or gaslighting, but you'd have to play with the Heavenly Realm's rules. Forcing something on other dreamers would be a contest of willpower. If you had a more nefarious purpose and wanted to do more non-consensual things to the other dreamer, that's when you'd need to make the dreamer dream in your fake server that is under your control instead of the Heavenly Realm. That would be very high level chuubanitic oneiromancy though...

I kinda started ranting there, sorry. Do you think that makes sense? These concepts could probably be of use for the chuubanite lore in general. Also, I haven't seen you being cringe yet.

[Anonymous No.]

Word cloud for last thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36707142
That makes sense to me, thanks! I think I’ll try to read more about how the whole concept thing works later. Does that mean the soul’s technically not part of you since that fraction of yourself’s in the Heavenly Realm and you dream to make the two in sync? Or does that work differently?
Using some kinda device to amplify one’s signal sounds interesting although I don’t know if distant communications like that are allowed in this setting. Being able to manipulate/share a dream with others opens up a lot of possibilities too I don’t know why the more I write about /vnug/ the more sinister it sounds

[World Exploring Sanalite !BhGStmx/vE No.]

>>36707590
I want to pet this creature.

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>>36707590
>Does that mean the soul’s technically not part of you since that fraction of yourself’s in the Heavenly Realm and you dream to make the two in sync?
Interesting... I think your Soul and your being on Vitubia are always connected/in-sync, the dream is more like just something that makes it easier to communicate with it, perhaps because all physical distractions are tuned out. Maybe you can enter a dream-like state useful for divination with deep meditation. That would be more compatible with the concept of the janitors, who are beings that have a much larger fraction of their being in the Heavenly Realm, but can take conscious action on Vitubia.
>if distant communications like that are allowed in this setting.
I think what came out of this topic is that it's allowed as long as it's impractical and inefficient enough to not provide a massive societal utility with current technology. For example, catalognauts are able to communicate at long distances through the catalog, but catalognauts are very few in numbers. So you'd want longer range dream sharing to be locked behind very expensive and rare circumstances/magical engineering. Sinisterdom is the other side of anything cool! Or maybe that's just me being a bad influence...

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>>36707952 (me)
btw PG when you come by, give this a read and let me know what you think, could add it as a section to the chuubanite rentry.

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>>36707952
That makes sense! Speaking of long-range dream-sharing, we established the one sharing the dream would need some way to boost the signal for other dreamers to pick up, but what about the dreamers? Do they need special stuff to pick the amplified signal up? Do they need to consciously search for the signal? Can they pick it up accidentally?

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>>36708695
I think they would need *something*. You need to tune your antenna to the right frequency to get a signal...
Well, taking the example of a Moriji priestess receiving a transmission from Mori, or a Sapling shaman divinating something from Fauna. It's straightforward to see that the respective divinators are tuned to their Goddess' "frequency" by using chuubanite of the respective type.
So, the "receiver" dreamer would need to use chuubanite of the exact same type as that used by the "emitter" dreamer. That would be like the frequency the dreamer is emitting on. Works nicely with conceptual energies being represented with waves.
The more precisely identical the receiver and emitter chuubanites are, the easier the communication would be, it would be like a better tuned radio and antenna, with less noise from other sources.
If the conditions above are fulfilled, I could see it happen accidentally.

[World Exploring Sanalite !BhGStmx/vE No.]

>>36708998
/nasa/ did get signals from Sana streams. Though I never did have a good explaination on how we got the frequency.

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>>36709283
This framework would explain it pretty neatly. You could have used a big antenna of sana-type chuubanite that transmitted the signal to all the sanallites, either through their dreams or some other way.

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>>36708003
idk why dreams are inherently magical, or why you guys seem to talk like all you need to do is emit a stronger signal instead of identifying the core concept of a dream, or the mind of the one dreaming it, and interact with it that way, but other than that it seems fine to me. if the conceptual realm is a computer, then communicating with another part of it is not like a radio, more like identifying where the memory of a specific function is being allocated. dreams are only as magical as the magical signals they sometimes are interfered by. this means your mind is always a little bit magical because your mind is the place that stores the concept of you, and magic is the result of those concepts. for the most part, everything is fine in a practical sense as far as i can tell. just that the framing is a bit confusing.

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>>36710278
basically, i can’t easily look into your dreams by looking for signals in the chuubanite you are influenced by, but if i add a glyph to identify your dreams, or at least eliminate things that aren’t your dream, i can. the magic produced by chuubanite comes from its own concept, which is separate from your dream, but if you identify that concept, you can find it even easier. it’s like the difference between brute forcing a password vs knowing it from the get go.

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>>36710278
>>36710618
>idk why dreams are inherently magical
Oh, I didn't mean it that way, I reckon most dreams would be entirely mundane in nature. But since dreams have precedent for being a way to receive information from the Heavenly Realm, that's where I saw the connection.
I think we agree on the "matching core concept" part. When I talk about specific types of chuubanites, that's essentially chuubanite attuned to a specific concept.
I think the reason I suggested using chuubanite to identify the concept is that it would be more easy to practically interface with for the person interacting with the dream. Like, if you want the emitter and the receiver to have an exact conceptual match, with chuubanite it's as "easy" (probably still difficult) as purifying chuubanite extracts of matching concepts, and then both sides use this chuubanite to "find" each other. Like a way for them to be using matching memory addresses. Using a glyph would accomplish the same thing as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36711034
i think you underestimate the sheer size of the conceptual realm if you think merely using the same chuubanite could help you connect to a specific dream. i take it near lethal doses of chuubanite are to make the signal stronger and easier to find, but it would still be like trying to find a needle in a haystack because unless you have a way to eliminate noise, literally everything else would interfere with your search, as in everything in existence that has a concept that even remotely intersects with the concept the chuubanite runs on. it would be easier for magical entities like gods and catalognauts, but normal people require much more complex systems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36711817
I would say that is a good thing, as we don't want this process to be too easy or accessible. Would this be mitigated by using a unique "signature" glyph in the process that matches on both sides?

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>>36712098
yes, but depending on the glyphs that have already been established, it might be possible to figure out a glyph that can connect you to the dream without requiring a glyph from the other. you would need glyphs that identify a person, and a glyph that identifies the concept of a dream/the mind. if both already exist in the culture, and if the one in question has a glyph for themselves, then a rather skilled glyph maker could design a glyph that allowed them to enter their dreams without needing anything more. recall how difficult it is just to make an artificial glyph to identify a single person. that should make it pretty inaccessible to most.

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>>36713932
Makes sense. People and their personal concept probably drifts with time as they gain more experiences and memories, so the personal glyph would also need to be sufficiently "up to date" to work properly.

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>>36714406
not necessarily. there are 2 ways of looking at it. 1) the glyph is only used for identifying the subject. see my answer to the question of whether or not transubstantiation would stop working if you physically deformed the person doing the transubstantiation after the rituals. 2) the act of making an artificial glyph doesn’t just cause the glyph to gain the definition of the concept, it also causes the concept to gain the definition of the glyph. your personality would have as strong a connection to the glyph as the glyph has to your personality. this in no way means you wouldn’t change, just that you would have a force adding influence to how you change to make sure the most important aspects of your personality that were important enough to add to the glyph aren’t completely lost.

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>>36715098
>doesn’t just cause the glyph to gain the definition of the concept, it also causes the concept to gain the definition of the glyph.
Hmm, that doesn't make sense to me. Wouldn't that cause a recursive relation between the glyph and the concept? What if you made a second glyph for the concept, would it need to take into account the first glyph in its definition? Would the first glyph need to be adjusted to take into account the second? How does the glyph apply this influence on the concept, does it need a constant influx of conceptual energy? It seems much more straightforward if the relation between the glyph and the concept is unidirectional.

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>>36715271
this doesn’t make sense to me, the glyph is as much the concept as 2+2=4, or a bachelor = an unmarried man. how are you thinking of these things, to be able to imagine a recursive relation between 2+2=4 and 4=2+2 that wasn’t self-evident. what if there is another glyph? what if 1+3=4? as long as it is true, it doesn’t matter. the influence doesn’t require anything more than a definition. you are identifying, and thereby stating in the form of a glyph the nature of the concept you are seeking and defining. the force on your mind isn’t some kind of magical influence, it’s the mind itself, correcting itself as it always does. the only role the glyph plays is in defining some properties of the mind, solidifying their influence, not through magic, but through the nature of what your mind already is.

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>>36715986
That was my understanding, but you made it sound like the glyph adds something to the concept.

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>>36716103
the glyph is the concept in written form. the changing of one would change the other, but so long as they do not contradict, once defined, they influence each other as much as anything influences itself because it is itself. the only thing the glyph adds is a solid definition that can be referred to by those who are trying to describe it, but that solid definition is now an inherent property of the concept it is referring to. you asked if a new glyph would be required if the person changed, i said they wouldn’t change enough for the glyph to no longer define them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36716513
What if they changed a lot? What if they moved their consciousness to a robot body, lived in another country for 40 years and changed all their values?

[Anonymous No.]

Risu lore update desuuu!
>https://rentry.org/vtwbg_risuspecies#rishama

progress for now
- renaissance faction outline is done. will rentry-fy today

- will make a separate entry for cultural rites
will include
1. clan songket
2. nut rites

- spec evo animals! (≧∀≦)
some weird animals planned
1. the cavalry moa birds
2. slender elephants that adapted to live in megatree jungles
3. hermit crabs that live in the mole tunnels. THEY USE GEMS AS SHELLS
4. cenderawasih birds
5. horse for the grassland ayundites along watamelon border

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>>36716907
nice, I llovw your writing style, Ri2ner. Feels like reading encyclopedia entries from a comfy MMORPG. It's fun that Rishama can come from any type of chuubanite. The Alpine risuners are very cute.

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>>36716579
it depends on what you mean by “changed all their values”. i keep talking about the core concept of things, and i am wondering if people are misunderstanding the importance of the word “core” to the stuff i am describing. your physical location and physical condition has nothing to do with the core concept of you. if you define the glyph that way, maybe it will stop working, but the core concept of something cannot be changed simply. people change, they cannot change intentionally through willpower alone, and the way they change is dependent entirely on the way they were before. the core concept of the person does not change, even if they change a lot, at best it evolves. you are, for the most part, just like your ancestors. you will never evolve out of being a mammal, or an ape, even if you are radically different from any of your ancestors physically. if there was a glyph for a species, and if species were less physical and more conceptual in nature, then the glyph might determine how most of that species evolved over a long period of time.
the core concept of you is the focal point which all of the properties of your existence revolve around, you aren’t going to change that without becoming completely unrecognizable, which is more than merely acting in an unrecognizable way. it might be possible with trauma-induced amnesia, but just living in a different environment over a long period of time isn’t going to change the parts of you that define your core concept. that’s my interpretation at least.

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>36716907
Yo squirrel lore!!

[That /tg/ Guy No.]

Been a hot minute, other projects got in the way and now I'm in the UK on vague Workoliday.

But the basics are somewhat hammered out and ready to go. Currently not at a real computer, so putting everything in a nice document is quite difficult.

Trying to keep things open so it can be molded into a few different concepts should the need arise, if only because of the nature of this thread. Chuubanite still needs some work, but the core concept of "Spend X to add Y and DO Z" is present.

Though I should ask, if only because sorting through various pages on Geography and the dreaded "Time Loop, Time Loop!" being said

Is Magic a "Thing?" Like Non-Chuubanite Magic that is. It won't change too much, but just getting the 1's and 2's together would be nice.

Godspeed and Goodluck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36724857
To be fair that's how divine (and warlock's to a lesser degree) magic works in D&D, at least fluff-wise

[Anonymous No.]

>>36716907
>Flips are borderline schizos
Thats a neat theory you got there

[OGsuner !I18uq92BL. No.]

>>36716907
SEX SEX LOVE KISSES AND MORE SEX I FUCKING LOVE YOU RI2NER

ALSO HELLO FUCKERS IVE BEEN DOING FUCKING NOTHING FOR A WHILE NOW. Yeah computer problems turned into just being fucking lazy. Ive been reading up on things (and will read up on what my fellow sexy boi has done right now) so yeah. Whats up gentlemen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36726583
what do you think of new ri2ner lore?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36727362
Not OG but I used to think ri2ner was too rose tinted idealistic with her 'muh modernist renaissance' proposal
then warsuner fucking nuked Silvanus and I retract my statement. ri2ner at least cared about the nation

[Anonymous No.]

>>36724857
>Deleted
This was the /meat/ thread maker wasnt it?

[OGsuner !I18uq92BL. No.]

>>36727362
Is cute. I really liked the link to the IRL squirrels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36728930
that was one of the things that was gonna be non canon btw. Wednesday is my next day off and the day ill stop being a lazy bitch

[Ardashir !..kK1Rl3dY No.]

>>36728930
Cope, it's not canon. If you want to whine about me, come over to voms and whine.

[Anonymous No.]

Irrelevant bread dog bump.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36723759
I think Magic is a thing but I also think it works through magic quanta which I'm pretty sure requires chuubanite nanora. The definition of chuubanite is still pretty loose so you could define the Risuner’s gem staffs as chuubanite or a wand that blasts fire bolts as chuubanite, I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36689234
rentry because too long
https://rentry.org/6p2ha

gonna be unable to write anything the next few days, so I just got it done, wanted to go into a bit more detail on their mythological implications but eh.
up to change as always

[OGsuner !I18uq92BL. No.]

>>36734901
Theyre meant to absorb chuubanite through the ground and just be packed with the energy. In reality its probably some sort of biological/chemical reaction and when the gems run out they just become regular gems. You have to plant them in the ground to have power again.

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>>36717433
The thing is, when you make statements like this, you have to take them to their logical conclusion. What I'm getting is that "Yea, your core concept can change, if you change enough". Like, it perfectly possible for a person to change so as to become completely unrecognizable, after some kind of trauma, amnesia or otherwise. What if you made a glyph of the core concept of a fetus? They're a blank slate, with no experiences, as they're molded by experiences surely their core concept would change to reflect that.

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>>36723759
/tg/anon! I missed you.
So, basically, any time magic is talked about here, it is done via the Heavenly Realm. Chuubanite is the most common way to use magic energy (magical quanta) from the Heavenly Realm, but there are a couple of non-chuubanite sources, namely catalognauts. Catalognauts would be like wizards who have a mana bar that refills, while other people's mana bar only refills if they get more chuubanite (very rough QRD).
I kept your google doc open for a couple weeks checking in for updates hehe. Looking forward to what you've got.

[Anonymous No.]

New Sojourning chapter! Please enjoy!
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-sojourning#day-negative-three

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>>36735232
i think this might be a difference in philosophy rather than a difference in the degree of thought being put into this. the core concept of a fetus would apply to any fetus, the core concept of a person applies to them and them alone as soon as they are conceived, but is only recognized after much introspection. you can change your core concept, but you won’t. not at any point in your whole life unless something so extraordinarily unexpected and radically unusual were to happen to you suddenly and without any chance for you to adapt to it. if you can adapt to it, the way you will adapt to it will be dependent on your core concept, and will not be able to change it. when all you can do is suffer through and be overwhelmed by whatever happened, then maybe the core concept would be forced to change, but merely changing your opinion, or attitude, or even personality isn’t enough to change the core concept of you. you being a fetus or not has precisely zero to do with your core concept. again, this is the core concept, not any random intersecting concept that is emergent from other concepts that are attached to you. this relates to what i was talking to panon about some time ago on the nature of mistakes. i don’t think i explained it well enough back then.

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>>36736313
Oh, I think we got ourselves in an essentialist vs constructionist debate, interesting...
I think the main issue with your position is that there needs to be some arbitrary change threshold where the change is "radical enough" for a change in the core concept to occur.
Nature doesn't tend to like arbitrary thresholds, natural systems tend to be continuous. Can you explain why intrinsically, being traumatically brainwashed into being another person should change your core concept, but changing your favorite fruit doesn't?? From my point of view, those two things are the same, at a different intensity.

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>>36736109
okay nerds stop fighting! we got catalog kino!

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>>36736109
>Custodian leaving a schizo maelstrom alone
Good to see what that looks like in the catalog...
Nice writing as always meatbro!

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>>36736109
so according to /meat/bro's depiction
>>36707952 can be ruled out
catalognaut communication range is based on worshippers. so you cant get intercontinental calls unless you use strategically placed religious diaspora as signal boosters

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>>36736931
>strategically placed religious diaspora as signal boosters
That doesn't sound like a dealbreaker, more like an interesting additional wrinkle.

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>>36736931
>unless you use strategically placed religious diaspora
and who has a cult spanning everywhere?

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>>36736559
as i said, the threshold is what you can handle. there are different degrees of change, when your body has the ability to change only slightly, it does so only slightly. only when you are forced to change radically will you change radically. if you think changing your opinion on one minor thing is enough to change the core essence of what you are, then it should be fundamentally impossible to make a glyph for a specific person. even when you don’t “change” you are changing. if you can adapt to something, you will adapt to it while changing as little as possible about yourself. your core concept is the most essential part of you that will only change if you are utterly shattered as a person without any trace element of your being that is retained. it might not even happen with the kind of trauma i described, depending on what that concept is, but it would have to be so terribly maladaptive as to be incapable of withstanding the trauma to actually change. it’s not arbitrary, and as someone who has researched neuroscience, i should know that these things are very real, even if the form they take is rather difficult to see or describe.

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>>36737943
>your core concept is the most essential part of you that will only change if you are utterly shattered as a person without any trace element of your being that is retained.
But, what is the threshold? If your person can be completely annihilated without your core concept changing, how is your core concept related to you? It's more like an arbitrary serial number that is attached to you, but otherwise unrelated.
> it should be fundamentally impossible to make a glyph for a specific person. even when you don’t “change” you are changing.
Exactly, that's what I'm saying. What you could do is make a glyph that is 99.99% accurate that can do the job well enough, for a bit, until the "original" drifts too far from the "copy". Then you'd need to "synchronize" it to the original again.

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>>36737113
Do you really have it everywhere?

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>>36734913
Alright. It's been archived. No comment from me, well yet anyways. The wendigos are just normal wendigos right?

[Ardashir !..kK1Rl3dY No.]

/voms/ topography.

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>>36738184
yes, kek. this has been made clear.

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>>36738724
Not really, in my opinion, you should have to "opt in" for the cult to exist in your lands.

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>>36738672
gentle reminder that the south border is inaccurate.
I know it's WIP and not archived non-canon etc, just mentioning it so it doesn't catch you off-guard later on.

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>>36738781
that's never how it has worked tho and kills worldbuilding potential.

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>>36738570
speaking of wendigos, whats with the trend lately where zoomers piss their frilly panties to spell out and say wendigos?
like unironically typing wend*go or outright avoid saying it
is this like some bullshit Bloody Mary PeepeePoopoo Man thing?

[Ardashir !..kK1Rl3dY No.]

>>36738845
I am well aware. Thanks though.

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>>36738848
Don't ask me. I'm a moomer. it's probably something dumb anyways.

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>>36738874
Np, looks good, the hydrography is nice and detailed, I like the delta on the Bay of Siniz.

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>>36732032
>/hlgg/ has /meat/mercs now
aawww fuck what did you guys do this time??

[Ardashir !..kK1Rl3dY No.]

>>36738917
Thanks, I looked closely at real world maps to figure out how this works and I am quite proud of how it is turning out. Wouldn't mind doing this for the whole continent at some point.

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>>36738570
still saving them for the future, so don't worry about it.
>>36738848
I don't know and I really don't give a shit

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>>36738951
The appeasement with Moriji opened the floodgates, /meat/heads are back on the holocontinent now.

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>>36738951
theyre being herald as martyrs and heroes weirdly enough
the other banished threads just gave up and stayed in /d/

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>>36739043
Hey now, we just had a stealth /umami/ thread a few hours ago!

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>>36739114
we need to fuel the /vt/ spring even more obviously
stop letting that one /meat/ anon do all the work, make more OPs

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>>36738119
when you eat part of some kind of food, what does it’s core concept change into if it is no longer itself. what does a beach change into if i take a handful of sand and move it somewhere else? what kind of creature does a human transform into if you remove an arm or a leg? yes, you can be annihilated and still the core concept of you will remain. it is only if you try to change the concept itself that the core concept will change. changing the physical body will only effect the core concept in so far as the physical body is a factor in the core concept. that is not how core concepts typically work. what i meant by it being impossible is that the mere attempt to make a glyph would be a waste of time. if changing your mind changes every aspect of the most foundational principles behind how you operate, then you could never in a million years distill the concept of a person down to a single symbol. even if you could, it would last for no more than a single moment.
i used to take a shortcut in trying to understand nature by ascribing a sort of inconsistency, and constant, chaotic change to all natural processes. that is not how nature looks or operates. nature is even more orderly than anything man made, it’s just that the kind of order it takes is unlike anything man made because there is no inherent purpose to the way nature is ordered. it just is. idk if you understand what i mean by core concept even now if you can’t see how self-defeating the claim that changing your opinions will change your core concept is. if it were true, there would be no consistency at all in human nature, but i assure you there is a great deal of it, and once you understand the nature of these core concepts, you’ll understand it, too. unfortunately, this isn’t something i think i can explain. actually, idk if it can be explained, you might need to experience it before it starts making sense.

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>>36738724
Didn't we have a discussion that certain cultures were extremely incompatible with /meat/ infiltration nora? Outside of the concept that artic mentioned of turning people into candy for the Hime Vessel, any influence /meat/ would have on our politics can't really jive with the core concept of eating chuubas.

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>>36739043
i looked through /d/ and didn’t find anything.

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>>36739335
>when you eat part of some kind of food, what does it’s core concept change into if it is no longer itself.
It becomes a fruit that has had a bite taken out of it.
>what does a beach change into if i take a handful of sand and move it somewhere else?
It becomes a beach with one fewer handful of sand.
>what kind of creature does a human transform into if you remove an arm or a leg?
It becomes a human that has had a limb amputated.

In my experience, things that cannot be explained tend to be things that aren't understood. I think if we, as creators of this world, don't understand what a "core concept" is, this makes it a notion difficult to work with. If we needed someone to put together the core concept of a person in a glyph, but ourselves are unable to say what that is, how are we meant to write it? How would the core concepts of two people differ, if those core concepts have nothing to do with their experiences, memories, body, existence?

[Ardashir !..kK1Rl3dY No.]

>>36739527
From a general meta perspective, I tend to agree that others should agree first regardless as that is just common respect. But yeah, this is another good point.

[Your Secretary-General !kt219LjBow No.]

>>36738724
yo didnt we agree to have the cult to be on the other reps' terms? and sone places are obviously unable to support our beliefs like /uuu/

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>>36738781
the "opt in" should be how much a cult has in influence since with millions in each nation it is hard to say "a cult of X can not find supporters here"

same with spies, it is hard to say "we do no thave any spies from any nation." when that would be something that jsut naturally happens, it is the influence and know how that is the input factor

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>>36739187
>he thinks we're doing nothing
Where do you think all this fat kson art is coming from?

[Ardashir !..kK1Rl3dY No.]

>>36739908
From a non-meta perspective, the other factor is logistics. It is not unreasonable to say that /meat/ would have troubles maintaining networks across the world for obvious reasons. After all, why would /meat/ invest heavily into a cult in /voms/ when /voms/ is across the world?

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>>36740377
NTA, and I agree this whole thing should be opt-in, but it's not like meat cults need to be directly connected to their homeland, they can just be local cells with the same ideology and methods.

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>>36740377
as the other anon said, not every /meat/head needs to be connected and informed of all gooing ons form the homeland. some cults are jsut a handful of people sharing their beliefs in someones basement and pretty much harmless.

some cults might even have local variantions of the overall belief and would not even want to work with /meat/ together at all due to the differences in view etc.

having a /meat/ cult is not equal to having to give /meat/ some kind of power over your nation. that is what i mean with "opt in" the influence. you can have a cult that is basicly harmless and does nothing yet it still plays into the lore and flavoour of /meat/.

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>>36739912
Also, I've got an in universe idea for what set off the /ag/ janny in the first place about an experiment between /ag/ and /kson/ chuubanite that caused a criticality that could be repeated to banish them back to unreality. We must architect kson to save /ag/

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>>36743548
we must architect them all, it is for the greater good for everyone. totally unbiased here

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>>36739725
still a fruit, still a beach, still a human. if you think all ideas that can't be explained are only that way because they aren't understood, you must be an eop. as an eop myself, i know there are quite a few words from other languages that have no english counterpart. when discussing language and communication, you get into many instances where there literally isn't a proper way to accurately explain something. when discussing very small or very large-scale concepts, that is also a common occurrence. you know what 100000 means, but the average human mind cannot conceptualize something so large, so it uses shortcuts to get an approximation. the human mind is brilliant at finding patterns in large sets of data because it is constantly looking for shortcuts to reduce the amount of effort it has to put into things.
when it comes to someone's core concept, this is not only no different, but someone's core concept is, in being the core of someone's being, especially resistant to any degree of change. if people were constantly changing radically, there would be nothing to build off of. to be fair, part of this also relates to how prepared the listener is to understand something. if you have no context to help yourself understand what you are hearing, you won't be able to understand it. that isn't due to your personality not meshing well with the information, the misunderstanding comes from the fact that your core concept has not adapted to the experiences needed to understand it.
i have said many times that your core concept relates to your body only insofar as your body relates to it. if you live life with no consideration to your body, or consideration that is not primarily about your body (social appearance, bodily function, avoidance of pain. someone who bases their entire existence around football, only to lose their leg just before they had the opportunity to make it big might be utterly broken by the experience, but only if there was nothing else their mind could attach itself to in order to be able to adapt to the trauma.) then your body won't matter at all, but for the most part, people have some indirect consideration for their body, and everything else, but it does so from a framework, or a lens that is used to unify all lesser concepts together, so annihilating one aspect of it does nothing to change the lens itself.
your experiences, your memories, your body, your existence, your genetics, how your genetics respond to your environment (epigenetics) and everything else that makes up the concept of you, distilled into the most essential, core components that everything intersects and is defined by, that is what your core concept is. it is a large-scale concept, the kind of thing everyone has to figure out for themselves after long, deep introspection that many will never have the opportunity to understand.
people have tried to explain this for millennia, people have accepted that it was something some people will never understand for almost as long. i can't explain it to you, not because i don't understand it, but because it doesn't seem like you are prepared to understand it yourself, and that is ok, there is nothing wrong about that, but that just means it will be difficult for you to understand some of the things i am talking about. i have found that neuroscience is a bit of a shortcut to some of it, but i know i wouldn't be able to understand it myself without the accompanying experiences to help me be able to comprehend the information i gained from my research. there isn't much more i can say on this matter, and i apologize, but if you can at least understand that i am not making all of this up out of thin air, and that there is a fair amount of backing behind this, both historically, and in modern times, then that would be appreciated.

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>>36736559
>Oh, I think we got ourselves in an essentialist vs constructionist debate, interesting...
i looked up essentialism vs constructionism, are you taking the constructionist perspective? while i whole-heartedly agree with the essentialist perspective, there are some nuggets of truth in the constructionist perspective that are relevant to this discussion. mostly not, and to take the constructionist perspective, you would have to disregard and remain ignorant of the reasons why some things effect people in different ways, but overall, there are at least a few observations that are correct from that perspective. if you are taking the position of essentialism, then i don't think it really is a debate on those grounds. please explain what you meant by that distinction.

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>>36691113
MAGIC IS EVERYTHING

I'm starting to get attracted to vnug boi but for once it's not in a sexual way. Cute motherfucker.

[OGsuner !I18uq92BL. No.]

>>36746523
Me btw just a derp.

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>>36746523
>>36746697
I like you too!
I might wait for a bit to see how the discussion on magic goes since I should probably finish the short story I mentioned a while ago, although to be honest I think violence and gore might not be my forte. I’ll try to finish it by weekend but the quality’s likely not as good as my other stuff

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>>36746856
It's definitely not mine either. I'm gonna finish stuff on Wednesday when I got the day off.

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>>36689234
Under /rrat/ please and thank you.

https://rentry.org/FourLords

First break over, gonna finish this during lunch break.

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>>36746856
>violence and gore might not be my forte
/meat/head here. did someone say violence and gore? what kind of violence and gore are you talking about? what was the diplomatic relation between /vnug/ and /meat/ again? i recall there being some fun interaction between us back when palkyrie was being showcased/designed on stream (the ryona and cannibalism stuff, if i recall correctly) but i also recall being disappointed by something around that time, so idk. either way, we/i could maybe give you some suggestions depending on what you are planning.

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>>36746194
>>36746485
I had an interesting chat on the topic with hospital Comfy who had views on the benefits of the essentialist perspective.
To clarify, yes, I posit that I had a more constructivist view. I'm not convinced by your argument, I feel like it still folds changing factors into a supposedly static core concept.
But Comfy brought up the practical concern that in a fictional setting, you would always expect a character to keep "something" of themselves, no matter what transformations they might go through. This "something" is undefined and varying per-character, but it's always there, and effectively, I can observe this to be true in all fiction I can think of. While this is a bit intellectually unsatisfying, I can accept this as precedent for defining an unchanging core concept.
>>36746523
>I'm starting to get attracted to vnug boi but for once it's not in a sexual way. Cute motherfucker.
ikr
>>36746856
Me and PG can be pretty unconcise in our discussions, feel free to ask for any clarifications or QRDs! I think relating directly to your system, the main takeaway is that there should probably be some kind of magic glyph involved in the "long distance dream sharing" module.

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>>36747075
Hello! I had been trying to write a short story about someone getting injured and killed but I can’t really get into the groove of things
For /vnug/ and /meat/ it all started with Liora being oddly vocal against cannibalism during her God of War streams but at the same time thinking getting bloodied and battered up is cool/hot so I translate that to an odd relationship between the two people. Later when I did my reps I decided that since we share some Nordic elements (Liora’s character concept and later Kokone’s pet being called Mimir) it might be interesting to have them share the same ancestry. Currently I heavily imply that the ancestors of Palkyries and Remlins were refugees from /meat/ that fled when/after the /meat/ cult take over, so the relationship between us would be awkward at best and hostile at worst but at the same time I also sprinkle in some commonality between us every now and then
I hope I didn’t disappoint you…

>>36747240
I’ll! Regarding glyphs, /vnug/’s magic mostly runs on chuubanite-organic complexes (basically magical essential oil) and music/songs. Would those work as components of the module?

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>>36747633
>music/songs
Ah, we settled on songs being able to substituted for specialized activators, right? IIRC that worked out quite nicely. A song identifying a specific dreamer would be a pretty complex and customized song though. Only doable for the most advanced bard-wizards. You could call it one's "soul-song" so it sounds cool...

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>>36745127
You're Goddamn Right! Not just the hags, we'll make blimps of them all.

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>>36748268
I keep forgetting which one’s the activator and which one’s the glyph… I really should write them down
That sounds good though, and I like the idea of soul-songs! I’ll add that to the lore soon!

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>>36747240
>To clarify, yes, I posit that I had a more constructivist view. I'm not convinced by your argument, I feel like it still folds changing factors into a supposedly static core concept.
that's fair, as i said, it's fine if you don't agree with it, or if you don't fully understand the concept. personally, i find the social constructionist argument to be a few things that comfyanon would probably not want me to say in fear of potentially causing some offense, so in respect to him, i have and will continue to try to be as polite about these things as possible, even if it doesn't always work. with that said, panon also ultimately conceded on the point that it is better in fiction to have an essentialist character development. if that is what we will agree on, then i'll take it, but i just can't personally accept the idea that constructionism is valid in real life. there is a guy who made arguments for an ideology called naturalism (more of a scathing rebuttal of social constructionism, really), i'd say i have more in common with him overall, but essentialism seems accurate enough from what i have researched on it.
>>36747633
>so the relationship between us would be awkward at best and hostile at worst but at the same time I also sprinkle in some commonality between us every now and then
ya, that would probably be the part that disappointed me. i would have hoped a separatist faction from /meat/ would have a britian v. america sort of friendly/cousinly rivalry going on, but i guess that certainly wasn't the case any time soon from when america gained their independence. maybe our relationship can improve at some point.

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>>36748975
also, looked it up, this is the first area i noticed where /vnug/ and /meat/ intersected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCoisz6kjmg
boop the snoot, cuteness aggression, etc, it's all pretty /meat/ in my book. at least /jerky/ worthy. i can't remember where this was in her vtuber career because susan lobotomized youtube again to make it pretty for people and corporations who don't use youtube, and now all of her videos under "uploads" are hidden, even when you manually hit the bell icon to tell youtube that you want to actually subscribe to the channels you are subscribed to.

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>>36748975
I don’t know if that analogy fits since the refugees aren’t really separatists from /meat/ but people escaping what would become /meat/ as the religion took root in their home

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>>36748507
They will be fed enough to last both life and death

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>>36748667
The song (or rather, the vibrations the song creates in the chuubanite) encode the glyph-equivalent, is what we came to as I recall.
Looking forward to it!

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>>36743548
What the fuck is an oomfie?

[Cunt !.Q010oIZDo No.]

>>36752481
>he doesn't know

[World Exploring Sanalite !BhGStmx/vE No.]

What regions am I looking up for Alice? I see the map has been updated.

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>>36754059
I should stop being a tard and read.

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Lofi’s sick, life’s not good

>>36749732
I did my archive rep and that’s the case! I’ll see if I can put them into words

>>36749239
Wouldn’t that mean everything cute enough for people to boop would be considered /meat/? Sounds a bit all-encompassing to me… I also don’t think that’s enough to counteract the part where Liora voices her objection to cannibalism. Sorry to disappoint you…

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>>36761056
I found a possum in pain reaction pic and it made me think you you. Dozo.

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>>36761143
I think being in pain’s just opossum’s default mode

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>>36761056
>Wouldn’t that mean everything cute enough for people to boop would be considered /meat/?
did you see the way she was talking about it? that wasn't just a simple boop on the snoot.
>the part where Liora voices her objection to cannibalism.
fair, but that's why she isn't /meat/ proper. still, /meat/ is ryona and guro, not just cannibalism. she has part of it down, at least.

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>>36761535
Kokone doesn’t like gore and I don’t know if either of them’s fine with violence extreme enough to count as ryona even without the ona part… is there a part of /meat/ that’s only into getting bloodied but is against pain, death, or cannibalism?

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>>36762936
gomi smokes to dull the pain when she cuts herself. does that count? desu, ideologically speaking, pain, death, and cannibalism are a few of our core tenants (see life cycle stuff) if that is how you are going to interpret it, it might be better to keep our cultures mostly separate, though as i said, culturally different nations such as america and britain can still be friends.

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>>36763252
Liora doesn’t cut herself despite the kangel resemblance though, and I don’t think she’s into doing painful things for the sake of other benefits beyond getting vaccinated
I mean our cultures are mostly separated despite the distant commonalities and it’s kinda hard to justify a friendly relationship when she has the dubious distinction of being one of the few vtubers who explicitly condemns cannibalism and are at best indifferent to many other aspects of /meat/

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>>36763536
i get it, that's fair. i wouldn't want to corrupt your vision of your nation, but i do prefer having friendly relations whenever possible, especially with skilled world builders like you. whatever, so what was your idea with the violence and gore?

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>>36763680
Thank you and I like your worldbuilding too! It just doesn’t factor in the relationship between /vnug/ and /meat/. As for the violence and gore it’s meant to be a short story of someone getting injured and killed. It’s been kinda stuck in my mind since it’s mentioned a few weeks ago but I don’t think I can put myself in the right headspace to invest myself into it and the quality likely suffers as a result. I might just push through it and post to get closure on that…

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>>36763840
well, you can ask others if you need anything specific.

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>>36764077
Thanks, I kinda learn too much when doing my reps on related stuff

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moona's soundbit for donations keeps messing with me

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Chapter 1: bump

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[Your Secretary-General !kt219LjBow No.]

morniiiinng!!
the time of BUMP is over!

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>>36771337
wrongbump

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>>36689234
Could you archive this as "A chat about the nature of oneiromancy in Vitubian metaphysics" under The World - Resources & Chuubanite, until I re-write it in a form digestible for the Chuubanite document. Thank you.
https://rentry.org/iwa8fo

[Cunt !.Q010oIZDo No.]

>>36771337
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>>36772946
Bump

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Regarding the chuubanite rules for gravity, would manipulating weight violate those rules in terms of /ag/ chuubanite? I have an idea that it could be used to cause an effect similar to an Iron Metal Mind in Mistborm when applied to a Catalognaut, essentially converting a portion of excess energy into magic quanta that can be stored as fat, possibly could also be used to help transportation of heavy goods and helping our women ride horses.

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>>36779132
To me that sounds like it's just manipulation of matter and not weight.

[World Exploring Sanalite !BhGStmx/vE No.]

>>36779132
It depends. Changing the weight of an object with the same mass is gravity manipulation. But if you're talking about using energy as propulsion to increase newtons then it might be okay.

[World Exploring Sanalite !BhGStmx/vE No.]

>>36779692
There's two ways to get more weight: Having more mass or having more gravity. If we're talking about adding more mass then it should be fine. Question is how are we adding mass?

[Your Secretary-General !kt219LjBow No.]

>>36780952
fat people go nyoom

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>>36781055
>>36780952
It's more like the storing of mass, gravity itself isn't being changed but mass is being converted magic quanta making the object or person in question lighter as a result and can be converted back into mass or given additional mass from the magic quanta.
Energy propulsion would be a definite possibility as well but that seems like it could have different applications in /ag/ if we could do the above.
>>36781259
This too

[Anonymous No.]

hey guys, do you guys think a few of you can keep the /meat/ thread alive until it either gets more attention from other /meat/heads, or until it gets pruned? >>36762808 is the thread if you are ok with that. ty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36779132
>>36782219
The big issue here is the energy conversion factor. How exactly does bringing mass into existence work when it comes to magic quanta? If it follows E=mc^2 then the amount of energy to fat you could convert would be extremely skewed. You'd need ~ 90 Terajoules worth of energy to create a single gram of matter. That's equivalent to about 1.5 Hiroshima nuclear bombs.

So, unless it is rule-of-cool'd, creation and destruction of matter on a macro scale would break the rule against magic nukes. Perhaps the matter could be "borrowed" from somewhere else, or in the case of removing matter, it could be hidden in the Vitium field/Heavenly realm somehow?

Transmutation of fat into water and carbon dioxide and back could also work. In this case, an /ag/ catalognaut could passively gain fat tissue by using magic quanta to form fat molecules from the water they drink, the food they eat, and the air they breathe. The amount of magic quanta stored in the fat tissue would likely be lower than the amount consumed by the process (as part of the energy is used in the act of forming the tissue). Conversely, they could release the bound magic quanta by magically burning this fat, in which case the catalognaut simply breathes out the extra mass (as carbon dioxide and water vapour), or excretes it through other means.

How fast the fat building occurs is up to you, but I would personally lean to something sensible, tied to the amount of air, water, and food the catalognaut can consume. As the process is magical, I think it could reasonably be faster than human metabolism.
Same applies to the release of this energy, but for some reason I think that could be even faster.

I dont think this could easily be applied to inorganic substances without canonizing transmutation in some form.

[Your Secretary-General !kt219LjBow No.]

>>36784092
are we deadass turning fat people into literal calorie bombs?

[Anonymous No.]

why is the thread so dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>36786507
everyone got banned fighting the meme wars

[Anonymous No.]

>>36784092
>Perhaps the matter could be "borrowed" from somewhere else, or in the case of removing matter, it could be hidden in the Vitium field/Heavenly realm somehow?
This is more of what I had in mind when I say converted, fat wouldn't really be created or destroyed since that same fat would have already existed as mass from the catalognaut. I'm not sure how the Heavenly Realm operates in terms of the matter being put inside of it however I don't think it would be entirely too problematic, I have an idea that the excess fat could combine with the magic quanta into a kind of Magic Fat when placed into the Heavenly Realm instead of a pure conversion of one or the other to avoid the issues with matter input and output, a /ag/ catalognaut could have a pool of magic fat that expands gradually through the excess concepts aligned with /ag/'s field of magic while also setting a limit based on the actual, non Magic Fat weight and mass of the catalognaut.The magic fat could allow a different sort of rules to be put in place so as to continue with the chuubanite rules.

[Anonymous No.]

Chapter 2: the downfall of bump nation

[Anonymous No.]

Magic bump

[Anonymous No.]

>PG's posts were pruned
pain

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii where did you go? our magic fat discussion is keeping this thread afloat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36795435
Sorry, I got some news that I already knew but didn't fully realize but have now realized so currently my mind's not working the best. Or at all, really.

[Cunt !.Q010oIZDo No.]

>>36795579
Cool, so what mindfucked you?

[Anonymous No.]

Chapter 3: the god of bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>36795435
That's fun! I guess /ag/ chuubanite would have an affinity to fat? Then, a really boosted /ag/ catalognaut might be powered by both his magic fat and additionally the chuubanite reserves bound to his mundane fat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36801088
Potentially yes, I'd rather it be considered kind of like /nasfaqg/ in the sense that you're allowed to mix and match with your own ideas for how a catalognaut can work depending on which concepts are emphasized. Also I lean towards anti fat males in general so my idea of an architect catalognaut is always female.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36802267
>my idea of an architect catalognaut is always female.
Gender disparity? Based. Deadbeat magic users are similar, albeit for different reasons. Catalognauts are an ideal place to leave things more open-ended, you can get really creative with them.

[Anonymous No.]

https://rentry.org/vtwbg-vnuglore#quavers
I wrote more about the bard-magicians!

[Anonymous No.]

>>36803131
>TIL about Icaro
Always look in the middle of vnugget's lore hyperlinks!
Tying the note lengths to both membership and magician tiers is clever, nice. Gotta love an induction ritual, all good orders should have one.

[World Exploring Sanalite !BhGStmx/vE No.]

I did my civil civilian duty today. Anyway appointment with mom is over. Time for research.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36804712
Thank you for your service, bread dog.

[World Exploring Sanalite !BhGStmx/vE No.]

>>36807692
I'm going to do one nation at a time. The empire is NijiEN, Nijimale, and /2434/? I'm going to do /2434/ first.

[Anonymous No.]

Love bump.

[Anonymous No.]

vnugget liora just said she looks like a skeleton, twice.
This is all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36815314
>a fucking deadbeat
why are so many chuubas deadbeats!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36815568

[Cunt !.Q010oIZDo No.]

Oh shit today's the day guys!

[Anonymous No.]

>>36816113
National STEM day?

[Cunt !.Q010oIZDo No.]

>>36816384
It's wendesday my dudes! The day OG has been hyping up for like a week and that will inevitably start and end with "hello gentlemen" and nothing else kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>36816573
Shit, I love that day.

[Anonymous No.]

Consider: bath towel globe projection?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36816573
Speakin of OG, it might just be the insomnia speaking but I think if a troll smut ever gets written it should be an ntr mindbreak with a married risuner couple. I don't particularly even like ntr, but it feels like a good way to write an evil lust troll.
Maybe no domination loss but similar feelings no doubt nanora.

[Cunt !.Q010oIZDo No.]

>>36816991
Thanks for the next OP, anon.

[Cunt !.Q010oIZDo No.]

>>36817016
>ntr
>no dom loss
I'm gonna anti you now, you pink fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>36817025
You're welcome kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36817072
Naaaa! Smut is a child's art compared to romance and OG has been too coom brained recently, a good mental thrashing would do him right and well.Besides, risu has a history with ntr shit nanora.

[Anonymous No.]

Aight, Vitubia autagraph, get. I think I can get the distortion even lower, might make another version tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36819389
Thanks.
We also need to filling in the rest of the artic landmass now

[Anonymous No.]

>>36819461
Oh, the arctic landmass is already determined, it's just hidden under the ice cap. Here is the map without the icecaps.
Those icecaps aren't very good, they would follow the landmasses instead of just being circles, I should make a mask for them.

[Anonymous No.]

PG has been banned
his post requesting us to keep /meat/ bumped was cited as 'inciting a raid'
https://archive.alice.al/vt/thread/36689170/#36782786

[Anonymous No.]

>>36819389
If you're making another version could you put in gridlines?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36822794
Sure, any other suggestions?

[Anonymous No.]

Chapter 4: execution of the god of bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>36820322
>anon informing us PG got banned also got banned
The fuck? this is getting ridiculous

[Anonymous No.]

I am a /meat/head and i like the vtuber akira we should write lore about this since this is what is on topic for this thread

[Your Secretary-General !kt219LjBow No.]

>>36826811
buddy we own this place

[Anonymous No.]

>>36827238
I am making fun of jannies

[Anonymous No.]

>>36828503
They deserve to be made fun of nanora, loathsome reddit janny fears the /meat/head.

[emma !6tByAJW6/Q No.]

DSWbro, would you mind if i wrote some lore for dsw? I would like to see what you have so far as to not bungle your plans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36828658
Yes! That would be amazing desu wa! I need to familiarize myself with your lore btw, where is it located because i am confused...
https://rentry.org/hvxbp
https://rentry.org/dsw-intro
Here is my lore, I have the map too

[emma !6tByAJW6/Q No.]

>>36828983
Thanks love! I largely work with culture and religion, so if you need help there, i would be proud to help you. Also here is our lore doc with 2434 in it. we were supposed to have seperate docs under it, but we ran out of steam kek. I am sure ms. alice would be happy to help as well, along with pp if you ask or need. We nijireps stick together and love each other. So if you ever need our help, from any of us, just ask! This isn't shitting on the many fine fellows that write for other nations,but I welcome you to the Nijifamily again.
https://rentry.org/Tsukinode-Empire

[Anonymous No.]

>>36829169
I will do my reps! Thank you so much emma and others! Glad to join the family <3

[Anonymous No.]

Going to work on warkop again… warsuner i know you are in voms so you dont need to help if you are busy. Ummm, PP, i know you did the 2434 map and north is on it so maybe put us in it??? Begging you lmao

[Anonymous No.]

Deadbeat, what was your idea for trollification that you wrote about in that deadbeat risu story? Not sure if that was finished or not but I remember being interested in your idea of how a troll was created nanora

[PP !VPFshGyIyE No.]

>>36830630
Sure thing my friend, just type a rentry with a summary of what you want and I got you covered for the north.

[Anonymous No.]

mump

[Your Secretary-General !kt219LjBow No.]

where is everyone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36835967
Janny banned a good portion of meathead and meathead sympathizers nanora, I'm busy waging now and will be busier when I'm finished with that.
You need some real good lore ideas and speculative conversations tha aren't entirely localized and can be applied internationally if you want to keep conversation going nanora, spec bio, chuubanite, and possible magic quanta gadgets

[Anonymous No.]

>>36835967
Making maps and fabricating territorial claims.

[Your Secretary-General !kt219LjBow No.]

>>36836364
am I the last /meat/head left?

[Anonymous No.]

HELLO FUCKERS! i just woke up from nap so now im gonna go do shit finally. Starting with that paladin thing i wanted to do 2 weeks ago kek.

[OGsuner !I18uq92BL. No.]

>>36836579
me btw im a derp

[World Exploring Sanalite !BhGStmx/vE No.]

>>36835967
School, work, or in my case shopping and cleaning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36836529
Possibly founder, though your kin are sure to hide amongst blood red waters nanora
>>36836579
Have you developed it further treerat? How powerful would you day that these Paladins actually are? I forgot to ask about

[Anonymous No.]

I want warcrimes, meatbros do you guys do warcrimes or are those terror tactics just legend nora?

[OGsuner !I18uq92BL. No.]

>>36838337
They are not magic by any means. But they are meant to be at the prime of humanity. Im talking gigachad buff fuckers, extremely healthy, no diseases, mental disabilities, or any of that bullshit. Also strong armor of course.
>>36839382
Our witches use prisoners of war as live test subjects for magical shit and if they prove to not be needed they are set up as live target practice for grape agate staff weapons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36836529
Meatbro and PG are banned, I'm sure they still lurk here and will return when the ban expires.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36839529
Hmmm, that's good but you can be way more efficient nora. Why not use some of them as medical toys? You could learn lots and lots from a live dissection that could help risuner doctors understand how to help their patients.

[OGsuner !I18uq92BL. No.]

>>36840207
I worry for the doctor that would try and experiment with one of the most holy people of the risuners, especially given their limited number. It could be done of course though. Just simply never thought of that being an idea.

[Cunt !.Q010oIZDo No.]

>>36840520
...He was talking about the witches using prisoners as medical toys, not the other way around

[Anonymous No.]

>>36840520
who is the future leader of risu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36835967
it seems that all the newfags left or something considering i barely see them post anymore. wonder why

[OGsuner !I18uq92BL. No.]

>>36840640
Ah silly me. I always thought of the witches to be gem experimenters but yeah that could be a thing. They do have a village with people to do basically everything to be self sustaining so a doctor would be present. GREAT IDEA!
>>36840640
I was actually getting to that really soon. To put it really simple it will be Commodus. As much as I love the idea of a nation filled with magic and sex (and dont worry that will never change) Every nation needs a government, army, and overall to get their shit together. Risuners are doing a basic animal instinct by 1124 and especially by 1130 which is showing power. Not gonna go full out crazy army like the hoomans or anything, just enough where pirates/slavers will look at us and say "ok nah they got too much people with guns"

[Anonymous No.]

>>36689234
I've made the decision to post some of my chapter in incomplete states, instead of leaving them in the "I'll finish them soon" limbo.

>Red Bird, Ch2.
The overarching story is multinational, and currently involves /meat/ and /nasfaqg/. This chapter will involve /meat/ later on, but i've managed to write only the portions that happen in nasfaqg.

Archive under Stories, Individual, (/nasfaqg/, /meat/), possibly under Red Bird
https://rentry.org/Redbird_Ch2

>A Visit to Sabatangan, Ch2.
Continuation to the Sabatangan story. Canonicity is up to OG. (>>36836621)

Archive under Stories, Individual, (/nasfaqg/, /risu/), Possibly under "A Visit to Sabatangan". You could move Sarita's Journey there too, since it is a chapter in this story arc.
https://rentry.org/Sabatangan_Ch2

>Colours of Kronistadt (Risu expedition chapter / Louis d'Avranches chapter)
I was supposed to make the ending a bit more detailed but I got hit with a massive writer's block on this, so I hastily finished it. Canonicity is dependent on Alice's approval.

Archive under Stories, Cooperative, Lord of the Seas: Louis d'Avranches. If Alice vetoes the archival location, put it under "Risu's expedition to /uuu/"
https://rentry.org/737np

[Anonymous No.]

>>36840784
Why him? why not the witches?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36840784
would the witches submit to him? they can just kill the fucker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36840784
>commodus
Fucking hell mate, you really must hate infinity if HE unifies them.

[OGsuner !I18uq92BL. No.]

>>36840828
Because I like the idea of a more unified religious government. Risuners think pretty alike (look at our fucking thread) and the whole point of Commodus campaign is to show that the witches arent doing fucking shit and it would take 50 years for them to have enough gem trees in caverns to use them regularly. Imagine all the people who got their girlfriends/families taken away when he reveals that shit? They arent gonna be too happy. I will have the magical witch bois still in a high place and doing gem experimentation but the risuners simply need a government.
>>36840899
Not submit, at least i dont think. There is a lot of details to explain and even a few that I am not sure of myself. I need to look up how a theocracy works as thats what im gonna do. We love the fucking squirrel and we love fucking our fellow squirrels

Fuck off my click and drag isnt working....

[OGsuner !I18uq92BL. No.]

>>36840927
When I say unify i dont mean they all are gonna worship the guy. All he wants is mainly for the risuners to get their fucking shit together. Hell the boys at inf are already doing that since ri2ner is doing a whole renaissance thing. Fucking kek.

[Your Secretary-General !kt219LjBow No.]

>>36840150
awwww come ooonn! i found pg chilling on the other board and im feeling better now
>>36839382
it depends on the situation I guess????
we often employ inhumane weapons like chemical bombs, ryona tactics that would make vlad dracula blush and fear tactics like blood eagle and fleshpunk horrors.
but i think we wont harm civillians. even heathen ones. they can be converted hahaha.
>>36840784
>coomdeez
awwww but hes just squirrel napoleon
>>36840828
witches are just clergy types
right?
>>36840927
>muh infinity lore excuse
bring new material mate. fuck off!
cant your tiny pea brain understand that risu is fucking huge with a myriad tribes?
so if the romans accepted one german tribe that means all of Germania are suddenly BFFs butt buddies with the romans. yaayy no more enemies! the vandals and goths sacking rome? no such thing!!
>>36840821
KRONIE!! hugs!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>36841134
HUGS

[Anonymous No.]

founder... why do you hate /inf/ so much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36840734
How strange it is that so many people show up to vote only to despite being entirely absent in the thread only to dissappear afterwards...

[OGsuner !I18uq92BL. No.]

>>36841134
witches are a secret only few are allowed to know about that tell the elders what to do and act as a form of shadow government.
Also about squirrel Napoleon, dont see him as such. He just has an opinion and wants to make people realize that hes right. Hes not going to murder every motherfucker in sight, especially if people happen to agree or can be negotiated with. There will be a few villages here and there that will burn and people being killed and all but these would be isolated incidents for the old, stubborn, and anyone not faithful to Risu (which is kind of overkill but hes gonna do it anyway kek)
>>36840821
Let me go over this now and get to any more questions after.

[OGsuner !I18uq92BL. No.]

Risuners and the Paladins of the Nut.
https://rentry.org/dezmy

This is what I have for now. I will archive it if all seems good. Tell me if i missed anything

[Your Secretary-General !kt219LjBow No.]

>>36841193
im gonna read your rentry now! also... whacha think about the ritual i made? perhaps some plutocrats or rich family member might be instrested?
>>36841248
>he says that as I welcomed the kronie
THE FUCK YOU SMOKIN BITCH?!
>>36841298
i see. i'll save my judgement until more lore is written i guess. but how will he deal with other clans that sided with foreign powers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36841590
A what ritual? where? I dont recall reading about rituals
please share o i can check it out

[Anonymous No.]

>>36841631
I think he meant the dick doubling ritual

[Cunt !.Q010oIZDo No.]

>>36841631
He definitely meant the dick doubling ritual

[OGsuner !I18uq92BL. No.]

>>36841590
It wont be a problem. As long as your loyal to Risu and are willing to accept that the witches are lazy fucks with a shit plan that would take too long then he doesn't give a fuck who your allied with. As one who made close allies with /mep/ and campaign against watamates, he knows damn well the good and bad that foreign people can bring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36841791
>Commodus is okay with clans doing foreign alliances
>One of them allies with /meat/

[Anonymous No.]

>>36841689
lets have risuner go through it
he'll love having two dicks

[Anonymous No.]

>>36842166
This. I want to read a story with OG getting his cock doubled

[OGsuner !I18uq92BL. No.]

Daily reminders

I MISS ROSE SEXPAI, SAPLINGS, AND MEPBRO.

MAGIC IS EVERYTHING!

ITS NOVEMBER SO GIVE US YOUR NUTS OR WE WILL FUCK YOUR BUTTS! (tempted to make ass rape a capitol punishment for risuners who dont hand in their nuts instead of simply killing them off, or buttfucking then death)
>>36841971
Meatheads turned ally because of kronies (which is why kronies are loved as well as being horny) Commodus would start his shit after we were taught bog iron mining among many other things that would be useful. Personally i dont think he would have a problem with meatheads.

[OGsuner !I18uq92BL. No.]

>>36842222
Fuck it ill do it. Ill say that during his whole thing that he can visit Sabatangan at some point and apply it to himself. Double dick for double the pleasure, and double the cum. Why the fuck not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36830659
Ah, that wasn't finished, the plans for it are in the backlog limbo... I was going to keep it kinda loose so it's easily forward-compatible, but basically it would involve forcing lots of people to sit in rrat fields generated by schizo shamans, in turn making them "schizo antennas" of sorts. Then, you'd be force-feeding one individual with chuubanite while he sat at the point of strongest schizo energy, which would induce trollification.
Basically, powerful schizo fields and a lot of chuubanite.

[Anonymous No.]

>Commodus will now have TWO(2) dicks
BASED

[Anonymous No.]

>>36841134
It's barely a war crime if its not against civilians nanora! You cannibals are too nice!

[OGsuner !I18uq92BL. No.]

>>36842383
What about prisoners of war?

[Anonymous No.]

Having two penises is gay because you get to feel two cocks touching each other

[Cunt !.Q010oIZDo No.]

>>36842271
>Double dick for double the pleasure
Actually, this might make him a one pump chump. Like, you are essentially doubling the pleasure area, so having both of them stimulated might be too much for his brain to handle at first. Idk, we would need to consult a nasfaqg on this.
>and double the cum.
Also no, unless he also gets double balls. It will just make his individual cumshots seem that much smaller, since the same amount of semen would be split between the two dicks.

[Your Secretary-General !kt219LjBow No.]

>>36841631
yeah this
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-meatdiph
maybe some rich nashag would want to spend their big big money on a surgery travel and vacation in /meat/
>>36842383
hey we're not le edgy evilmaxxing guys! we're proud by the book honorable warlocks and warriors who wont betray our allies. lawful evil or something
you pick up that musket and we'll turn you into fertilizer and food.
stay outta the way and we'll be friends
>>36842271
>it's happening
epic!
>>36842601
>commodus's concubine makes him cum by frotting his twin cocks together
>he is now gay
>>36842693
the nasfaqg deals feels more like medical tourism. surely some rich bastard would want to go to /meat/ for this once in a lifetime operation

[Anonymous No.]

>>36842436
You've gotta be creative with your war crimes then, no boring target practice nanora!
Also wouldn't having two dicks make it so that your heart needs to do double time or else you're either flaccid or pass out immediately after sex?

[Cunt !.Q010oIZDo No.]

>>36843058
On average, the amount of blood in the penis during the erection is 130ml, so you might experience *some* lightheadedness, but overall it shouldn't affect you much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36840821
>AIEEEEEEEEEE
>No. Stay poor.
Mahjong matches make for very fun scenes, need more of these!
>Glass-eye-hag
>nasfaqronie makes a character with a magical fake eye
>I make a character with a magical fake eye
WE ARE
>Can't afford medical care
nasfaqg is truly the land of the free
Is Jay about to become Akagi? Seems like he's about ready to bet his liver on a Mahjong game.
>the edelweiss heir is sadistic
h-hot
>The smell of the sea grew stronger, and with it came the stench of fresh and rotting fish alike. The tall trees parted to give way for the hateful glare of the sun high above the city. Screams of seagulls grew louder and more numerous, but even they drowned under the noise of the seaside market square.
Your prose is always really evocative, but this sentence was especially good. "hateful glare of the sun"... Nice.
>It was as if just below the surface of her skin was a layer woven of impossibly thin golden threads.
You made this mysterious chuubanite enhancement sound extremely cool, great job on that. I'd love to read more about this character, this made me curious about her. Really wonderful descriptions of the city and Chronobanks building in there as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36689234
https://rentry.org/he6v5x
war crimes desu wa? perhaps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36843335
>Mahjong matches make for very fun scenes, need more of these!
I initially intended to write the scene way longer and more detailed, but the way I intended to do so was too ambitious so I scrapped the idea.

>Is Jay about to become Akagi? Seems like he's about ready to bet his liver on a Mahjong game.
Not quite, but he will play with the three men introduced in the first part
He and Edward also appeared in the first part of the red bird story, so you could see this chapter as an introduction to these characters and how they ended up working together

>the edelweiss heir is sadistic
Lalarep is the head of the house, thus she carries the title of "Valt". If she was just a member or the heir, she would be referred to as "Sen".
Her relationship with the house is a bit complicated, but I do plan on exploring it a bit in the following chapters of Red Bird, if I ever manage to write that far.

Thank you lots for the kind feedback!

[Anonymous No.]

>>36844076
>talking in filenames
damn bratty nasfaggs...
You're welcome, thank you for the wonderful stories!

[Anonymous No.]

>>36843527
archive under dsw stories.

[Anonymous No.]

Arcticnaito! I finished a rough outline for the next chapter.
Few things: there is the first battle between the Luknights and a monster. I can write it if you want, but I'd love to see how you write it to get a feel for how they'd fight such monsters. If I write this part up to the Luknights meeting the beast, would you like to write the fight?
Segundo, I was thinking of how the Lunaito scientists might decontaminate the land. I remember something about bitter stuff reacting explosively with sweet Luna-type chuubanite. Would spraying some kind of bitter fluid over contaminated stuff, causing burn up be an effective way to destroy the contaminant? It would cause some environmental damage, but it's better than the chuubanite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36843004
Naaaa, meatbros are too true to life nanora! I NEED MY CRUELTY FIX.
>>36843527
I appreciate the kobonigger slander, I have not forgiven them or chumbuds for their board spamming behavior nanora. An avenging battle doesn't scratch the itch however, I desire something of this variety nanora, Operation Phoenix type things, honorless and horrifying nora, https://youtu.be/-7AUYEe2hsg

[Anonymous No.]

the truth about 3beat is finally out.

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

Do you gentlemen like my paladins?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36851500
You didn't really post that much about the paladins outside of what we had already discussed desu, was kinda hoping for a little more detail on em but it was good nanora.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36851500

[Cunt !.Q010oIZDo No.]

>>36851500
Eh, 's ok I guess. What lunaito said, mostly. Ain't nothing really new in the rentry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36845344
Wait a second, Deadbro get your ass back here and answer me nanora! How did Trollification and schizo magic work in your stories?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36854639
I answered, you correction-needing shota. >>36842276
As for schizo magic, it's a bit Tolkien-esque in my stories. Any normal magic can be twisted to be used for schizo purposes, but schizos don't come up with their own magic. Schizo shaman artefacts are all based on chuubanitic instruments taken from non-schizos. Something something "Evil does not create, it can only corrupt". But it's all pretty loose and flexible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36854857
Ah, I did not see it nora. Consider me corrected then, I wasn't sure whether or not schizo energy was a thing but the trollification ritual you described does sound pretty rational, a massive chuubanite overdose in addition to a massive focused stream of mind breaking negative energy would kick any one over the edge.
I've also kinda had my own idea that since the concept of a schizo is that they have information of the real world that they shouldn't have that they could potentially have a greater understanding of things like chuubanite and magic and would be able to create hyper runes that are too complex and schizophrenic for the mortal mind to comprehend. I like the idea of trolls not being able to make things of their own and can only pervert holy objects and warp them for their own goals but I also like the idea of them being able to speak ritual words that can cause horrendous effects like pic related.
I also kind of want to speculate about someone being forcefully turned into a troll over a long amount of time nanora.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36855967
I think schizo energy is probably a type of Vitium Field wave that interacts strongly with the minds of living beings.
Schizophrenic hyper runes sound pretty cool. Preferably carved into the skin of a maiden they're about to sacrifice.
Oh yeah, a troll's schizo field. Only individuals of the utmost willpower and training and also Cahya are able to bear it without breaking down. The trollification would be a long and painful process in my story as well. I mean, it would take a while just to grow all that troll meat kek.

[Anonymous No.]

It looks like /2434/'s got some rainforest up north but its mostly a tropical monsoon. It looks like a wetter monsoon than a drier one due to the winds. In fact the monsoon area will eat all the rainfall before winds get to /nijimale/. There is an arid area next to /nijimale/ but I think that area will mostly be used for fishing instead of farming.

I just have to look at the terrain. It looks mostly flat but there's some hills.

[OGsuner !I18uq92BL. No.]

>>36851639
well shit. I mean your totally right I didnt realize I talked about them so much. And i had no idea what more details I could add at that point.

[World Exploring Sanalite !BhGStmx/vE No.]

>>36856530 (cont)
While I don't have ideas for crops yet I do have a thought. How well will /2434/ handle floods. The terrain is mostly lowlands. So I'm thinking the jungles will be flooded forests at least during the wet monsoon season. Dry months will be winter. Since you're southern hemisphere it'd be in July.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36856523
Nanohodo! Trolls and schizos have alot more potential then we've used them for so far, I think your description of them and the conversation of sticking schizos in walls in order to disable catalognauts is the most we've discussed them since that first schizo entry was made.
>>36857107
No problem OG, if you need questions that could help you develop them further we could list a few. Some simple ones are mostly in terms of how they relate to different internal risu factions like the witches and commodus, do they have a side and are they at all divided by the power struggle? What authority do they have in relation to everyone else and risuner soldiers in the army? Stuff like that nanora.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36857655
Yeah, I really enjoy the vulnerability of catalognauts to schizo monsters because it makes it so they're not a solution to all problems and lets non-catalognaut fighters have something they're better at. Need more schizo lore.

[Anonymous No.]

Watching both Kokone and Liora really cut into my time here…
I updated /vnug/’s map to include Remland! I also put some nameless villages on the map to make it look a bit less lonely although some of them might change into proper towns in the future when gen 2 comes along. I imagine the named ones are currently the only settlements with more than 8000 people according to some sites I read. The total population’s likely somewhere between 150k and 200k

[Anonymous No.]

>>36856530
nasarep, use this for your own sake. ty/

[OGsuner !I18uq92BL. No.]

>>36857655
sure. I guess I did get carried away discussing them with you. You know how much i love answering questions.

[Arctic Naito No.]

>>36845344
Thank you for your questions nanora!

I would be happy to write the fight, naaaa!

As far as chuubanite decomination, what you described is half of it, nanora. Bitter or salty solution is sprayed over large chunks to dissolve them, then picked up with a larger piece of magnetized Luna chuubanite. Any trace contamination is found with a charmingly low-tech solution, nanora: Lun-ant drones are released and quickly find any tiny pockets of unnatural sweetness, nnaaa. Without their queen, they should be sterile and not become an invasive species, nanora.

[Anonymous No.]

https://rentry.org/Retro-Calendar

Ideas for a unique Calendars for the Retro Reich, still working on finishing the list of naming the Years and deciding what to name the months but for now i am done.

[Cunt !.Q010oIZDo No.]

>>36862072
>they should be sterile
This ain't gonna end well...

[Anonymous No.]

>>36862072
Ah, wonderful! The decontamination process is great, a lot of minute technical details, Shishov will love it. Hopefully I'll have this put together tomorrow.
>>36863110
Maybe Lun-ants can be this world's Argentine Ants? Could be fun... As always, thanks for the idea Cunt.

[Cunt !.Q010oIZDo No.]

>>36863184
Salamensho was a luna chuubanite mutation, right? So now we just switch out the chuubanite for moriji one. You ever read Solo Leveling?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36861937
It isn't a problem nanora, I constantly say that I'd rather everyone talk and discuss their ideas openly instead of keeping them hidden away as a surprise, I'd like to see alot more of how you personally view them in the context of risu is all.
>>36862072
>>36863110
>Lun-ant drones are released and quickly find any tiny pockets of unnatural sweetness, nnaaa. Without their queen, they should be sterile and not become an invasive species, nanora.
This sounds like it would be fine since unnatural sweetness sounds like lunaito candy radiation so they're likely mostly eating the hyper sweet stuff with trace amounts of chuubanite
Also, I realized alot of people started referring to me as rep since I occasionally vote but you're actually the writer responsible for most of our lore, do you wanna be the official rep, or are we a double rep thing? I think we've worked well without that kind of distinction but it's good to know

[OGsuner !I18uq92BL. No.]

>>36863934
I was actually thinking of having them have a special rank. Something like the arlington cemetary guard where that is just who they are. Maybe go a bit further and say that they answer to nobody but Risu herself. They are of course the most devout people in the land.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36863925
The reason Salamensho went Godzilla is because he already had Mori chuubanite, so the Luna chuubanite he ingested had a weird interaction A pink interaction, even.
Haven't read Solo Leveling, no. Friends told me it was a shit story with great drawings. Do you rec?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36864267
>spoiler

[Anonymous No.]

>>36864378
>>36863925
>>36863110
>finally get rid of Salamansho
>send in lun-ants for clean up
>lun-ants fill up on candy kingdom chuubanite, snackin on Salamsho bones
>pic related

[Anonymous No.]

>>36864575
kino

[Anonymous No.]

>>36864200
Ah, I think we played around with the inquisition idea so the devout part makes a lot of sense nora. I think a kind of detail on who recognizes them and in what capacity they usually operate for would be a good detail to add in, I'm particularly interested in how you see them like the Tomb Guards since those guys are dope as hell.

[OGsuner !I18uq92BL. No.]

>>36865360
Well we can discuss it tomorrow. Im going to sleep. And yeah I personally visited Arlington so I know how those bois work.

GOODNIGHT FUCKERS

[Arctic Naito No.]

>>36863934
I'm fine with a double rep, nanora. I wouldn't want to hog lore writing from all the other Lunaito anyway.

[Cunt !.Q010oIZDo No.]

>>36864267
And now you have ants that presumably already have Luna chuubanite in them, or will at be consuming it, while also being in an environment full of mori chuubanite. Pink interaction season two electric Boogaloo.
And yea, I would recommend it, purely on the art. It's definitely in the top 5 purely on that. Story on the other hand is a basic power trip MC manhwa, so do with that what you will.

[World Exploring Sanalite !BhGStmx/vE No.]

>>36861843
Thanks. I'm going by what the interactive map shows me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36869125
>>36864575
Yeah, that could make for a fun wrinkle. The silver lining is that the amount of Luna chuubanite is finite, and ants are more short-lived than Kaijus, so hopefully the Luna-chuubanite would be mostly cycled out of their system eventually, if the decontamination efforts go well... But it might make for extra fun in the shorter term.
I'll check it out, read it like a Concept Art book kek.
>>36864378
>Morphing Power Catalognauts

[Anonymous No.]

>>36843004
>>36836529
Evening! Sorry about that. I am back from gay baby jail.

[Cunt !.Q010oIZDo No.]

>>36873212
Oh yea, it will definitely appeal to your chunni ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>36875276
Welcome back!

[Anonymous No.]

>>36875276
Cappy everywhere.
https://youtu.be/93RHBDK0NoM

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[emma !6tByAJW6/Q No.]

PHASE 1 - Naval Exercise
Location: /inf/ Protectorate Controlled Sea off the coast of the Risu Confederation
Activity: Both navies will try to mimic a battle. Use their usual strategy and doctrine.
Unique Equipment: Black Fleet ships, captured watamelon and /ahoy/ ships
Outcome: /morig/ Victory

PHASE 2 - Amphibious Exercise
Location: Forest/beach near Gehenna, rural and has no settlements. Don't wanna make the locals think it's an actual invasion.
Activity: /meat/ will try to invade, while /morig/ defend
Unique Equipment: Same as naval exercise
Outcome: /meat/ Victory

PHASE 3 - Logistics/Strategy Exercise
Location: Gehenna Black Fleet HQ
Activity: A tactical table war game like Kriegsspiel between two commanders on each side
Unique Equipment: A Kriegsspiel board with units
Outcome: /morig/ Victory

PHASE 4 - Sparring
Location: Gehenna Black Fleet HQ court/yard
Activity: Two retards fighting
Unique Equipment: Their own personal gear
Outcome: Draw. The battle managed tore a hole into the Catalog and attracted a Custodian

[Anonymous No.]

>>36880239
This is posted on meatbro's behalf, he got banned again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36880239
Why are you posting this? You're not even involved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36880268
>>36880239
>Emma has access to /meat/bro's story
Not the ship I expected

[Anonymous No.]

>>36880380
he just posted it on the public discord everyone else has access to so someone else can post it for him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36880380
Bro she's part of Panon's harem
You dont NTR him

[Anonymous No.]

>>36875276
>I am no longer banned
>>36880268
>I am banned again
The fuck did my nigga do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36880645
>>I am banned again
>The fuck did my nigga do?
Well, let's just say being too critical of people being banned is a violation of Rule 8.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36843527
Arigato Desu Wa! Whoever made this is a great writer, and I love it!

[Anonymous No.]

Last vote, there was an option about nasfaq and vrt sharing an island that got abstained because of the desire of some reps to have guidelines for "claiming" islands on the 3.0 maps
>What should these guidelines be? Case-by-Case basis or just a general basis
>How should we handle this on the map and what is the limit.
>What "earns" you an island.
Stuff like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36880239
Me and meatbro will write two phases each, plus maybe some other small scenes. I think the catalognauts might exchange communicator keys to have a skype call before the delegations meet. 楽しみにしていてください

[alice !5/2kkxYfkE No.]

>>36881095
Will post this in next bread too, but my general idea should be that distance, location and lore potential is the criteria.

I don't think that islands next to provinces should count nor big islands. I also believe that given the time period, it is reasonable for islands to "change hands", which is to say that you "owning" the island isn't a guarantee in the future if say, a new thread would like that island. I think that naval nations owning a couple of small islands is not a big deal and that even if the islands are not claimed, you can use them in lore as deserted islands where boats resupply. Ideally, Islands would serve a lore purpose, or help make sense of a nation's naval power, such as Hoshiyomi control an island in the middle of the Kizuna Ocean. While the fear of a "scramble" for islands is reasonable, I think with the idea that the further away it is from your homeland, the less likely you can hold it "forever" can balance this out, as well as limiting islands. This is the stance of /2434/

[Anonymous No.]

>>36881301
I agree with this!

[Anonymous No.]

>>36881620
me btw