/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Why does HoloEN not understand this?

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>>36473747
Half of them do.

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>>36473747
Everything makes sense once you realize over half of them aren't just pandering to the Twitter crowd; they ARE part of it.

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>>36473747
Half of Holo EN, the Gura faction believes this.
Gura, Kiara, IRyS, Fauna, Mumei

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>>36473747
There's already a thread about this shondobro
>>36464468

[Anonymous No.]

>>36473747
Based fellow cgdct enjoyer

[Anonymous No.]

>>36473747
Why does she sound like an average /vt/ visitor?

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>>36473747
hey, irys just did one collab with tamaki, it's not her fault

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>>36473747
>who's the intended audience!
>i watch vtubers for CGDCT and i think 99% of other people do too!!!
unfortunately, that's where she's wrong, and it's the same thing a lot of cgdct fans /here/ are wrong about too. they know why they like vtubers and assume that everyone else shares their viewpoint. shockingly, two people can like different aspects of the same thing and want different things from it. crazy how that works
i'm glad cgdctfriends have occasional chuubas like this who share their perspective but even if that was ever the majority of the audience it no longer is

[Anonymous No.]

posting in a bait thread, screencap me

[Anonymous No.]

>>36473747
literally who

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>>36473979
>HoloEN: Civil War
when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36473747
This girl has a boyfriend. Isn't it funny how /here/ tubers always have one? It's like you're destined to be a cuck if you worship pick-me girls.

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>>36474501
Already happening grandpa.
Go back a few months

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>>36474626
It's not happening until Gura says "Fuck the homos" live on stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36474197
t. pathetic luxiemtranny who thinks "she" is the intended audience

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>>36473979
like 3/5 have bfs

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>>36474645
The target audience of luxiem is definitely not dudes though.

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>>36474707
faggots are still dudes even if they are less of a man

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>>36474104
Because she's a 1 view whose trying to pander to VT to save her.

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>>36473747
HoloEN collabs with males they know, it's not the same

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>>36474692
Had, anon. No evidence for anything current. Still a loss for actual unicorns if that’s what they have to rely on, not so for gachis as a whole.

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>>36474692
And they keep that shit in their private lives and far far away from any streams.

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>>36474692
I've got news to you about your pure schizo shondo gf.....

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>>36473747
>99%
because she got the number wrong

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>>36474642
Ignoring them is much worse than this

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>>36473747
Of couse she'd say that, she knows her audience well

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>>36473747
Any chick that acts like this trying to pander to her audience 100% has a boyfriend.

Doesn't matter though, I watch vtubers for funny anime people, not autistic Girlfriend larps. Nowa Oji is 100% more entertaining then any roastie trying to desperately pan handle GFE content.

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>>36473914
>Twitter crowd
hopefully that place can change now that musk is taking over. it's not a bannable offense to say the word nigger now on twitter, it's a good start.

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>>36473979
>Mumei
Kek

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>>36473747
CGDCT isn't the only genre of anime, and it doesn't need to be the only genre of vtuber either.

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>>36473747
Bet this was written by a fat fucking whale

[Anonymous No.]

why are people hard shilling this literal fucking who with an awful fucking voice

[Anonymous No.]

Shondo's twitter is amazing, it's based take after based redpilled take.

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>>36473747
watch her instead then

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>>36475049
My sides, imagine believing this.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh my god, she repeated the 4chan bait! She must be here! She's just like me! Time to give her all my money

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>>36473979
>Kiara
>Mumei
roru

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>>36475317
>inb4 they broke up
Yeah, they all say that

[Anonymous No.]

Women who don't capitalize "I" are the worst kind of people and often liars.

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>>36473747
Yeah i watch vtuber for Cute Guy Do Cute Thing

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>>36473747
>Why does HoloEN not understand this?
Because half of them would rather collab with homos than potential menheras like Shondo who love to force yuri

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>>36475666
i really think they broke up
otherwise she wouldn't act like a menhara
or
Maybe she really knows the character, is a woman she is good a lying is all they can do

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>>36475866
Fucking Rushia acted like a menhara. You don't need to be single to act like a weirdo on stream for a couple of hours each day. Her boyfriend is using anons superchats to buy vidya and takeout.

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>>36473747
Note how she emphasizes that men aren't yucky, and that it's about guys "she doesn't know".

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>>36475866
Women are natural liars, anon. You do you, but I would avoid that one for sure.

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>>36475317
>Shondocucks opening this up excited then closing in seethe
you love to see it

[Anonymous No.]

Does she have some kind of obligation to stream on twitch?

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>>36474692
And I don't care, that's their private life that they can keep outside of streaming

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>>36475981
>Rushia
>acted

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>>36473747
why, in god's name, are you surprised western women behave like western women? you chose this. if you wanted decent chuubas you'd do your jp reps

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>>36476061
Why the random Amelia pic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36476061
Ame? Really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36474565
>cuck
>pick-me girls
Nice buzzwords tranny

[Anonymous No.]

>>36476302
Because he’s too new to remember Amegeddon.

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>>36476453
Or the Shondocucks are baiting for the image

[Anonymous No.]

She thinks all male vtubers want to flirt with her and all female vtubers are innocent dindus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36476367
Pssst, cuck.
>>36475317
Hello :)

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>>36476061
if he's 6'6 it's not cucking. It's eugenics.

[Anonymous No.]

I wish I had as much free time as anons raiding every shondo thread

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>>36476530
I don't usually find ntr fappable but some massive dude fucking the shit out of some low-test anons waifu is pretty hot. Hope they make an onlyfans.

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Part of it may have to do with the company aspect, they are your coworkers and they may become your friends since there are already venues of communication like the HoloPro discord.
Plus there is also the management factor, where if Cover decides "fuck it, mix females with males, have them do this ad, this show or this event together" there is no avoiding the male interaction, so some of the girls might try to be in good terms with them in order to avoid it being awkward.

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>>36476367
That's what using cuck says about someone? Damn, guess I'll go back to lurking then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36476503
>Flirt with a child.
Yuck, shit taste

[Anonymous No.]

>>36473979
>Mumei AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.]

>>36477529
>posts Subaru while shitting on Mumei
>he doesn’t know

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>>36476061
Based mindbroken teamate. It's been two years now, huh?

[Anonymous No.]

OH NO /VT/SISTERS HOW WILL WE EVER RECOVER

OR WHAT DID THEY MEAN BY THIS

DIDN'T READ

[Anonymous No.]

>>36476530
is he actually well proportionate, or is he just another noodle walking?

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>>36473747
>pandering to unicorns and /vt/ schizos
Cringe, but I do respect the hustle - she wants their money

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>>36473747
Kind of hard to explain this if 99% of people just want cgdct. Anycolor should be going out of business not being the most profitable vtuber company in the industry.

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>>36477529
youre missing the point anon...

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>>36473747

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>>36473747
I support all forms of suffering for HoloEN fans that don't affect the JP girls.

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>>36475095
Your pic is the biggest whore

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Unironically even hololive doesn’t have many pure cute girls doing cute things though
They all game and fuck around are weird gremlins
None of them are Teeheee oniichan on todays stream we’re having a teaparty~

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>>36475095
Bruh she did one male stream 8 months ago, got negative reception and never did it again, honestly i prefer that to them just never doing it cause we’re forced to wonder if they may do it in the future like ina did… mumei on the other hand is very unlikely to do it cause she already did once, the fans didnt like it and then never did it again, that wins mumei a lot of points with me and alot of other unicorns, she actually learned her lesson and stopped doing it

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>>36478155
Those numbers for cover aren’t real… they aren’t a publicly traded company so they have no legal obligation to release their financial information, the only reason we would have those is if somebody leaked them, but even then there would be mo way to verify those numbers because the leaker would have to come out publicly and verify those numbers… which would likely get them fired and therefore that’s very unlikely to happen
>TL:DR, those numbers for cover are definitely made up

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>>36473747
Her take is fine, except she shouldn't assume she knows why everyone watches vtubers.

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>>36474816
Mumei's rm has a bf. No one is gonna believe me, but before she debuted and was still streaming on her PL i found her IG, it was full of pictures of her and her bf. Checked again closer to her debut and everything was gone, never saved any pics because i thought some schizo anon would back up everything but i guess no one did.

You can lots of weird shit on IG, once i found out that Taro Yako, the game director is a sad cuckhold. His wife cheats on him with mountain climbers. Not even memeing.

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>36480834
Retard. Go the fuck back.

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>>36473747
You don't understand op, nijinigger from en are just full of twitch lite culture, they dont watch for their chubba, they only watch for drama and shipping.

They don't know the culture of nijijp produce, that why they got curbstomp everytime, handcam spam got reduce, twitter space banned, family also banned.

They unironically want to turned niji into twitch fleshtuber, you can see how the unity in nijien, everyone hate each other including the fan, "who scarle? Dunno dont care" "vox? Eww chink cumdump" "maria who? The girl who having 4some on australia backyard"

Vtuber is just a fad, they have no goal. That why homobegger and unity is just a buzzword "you have to collab with them or you an incel" you dont hear this 2 years ago until now.

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>>36473747
Why can't Unicorns understand that not everyone has a problem with mixed gender collabs? There's a fun dynamic between men and women that has been entertaining for fucking thousands of years. You're going to tell me that Roberu-Mea aren't more fun to watch than fucking SNOT? That watching Selen bully some dude vtuber on an fps isn't funnier than watching her play with Ollie?

Nijisanji as a brand is built on the idea that all of these types of content can coexist and all that matters is whether it is entertaining.

I don't care if it's men, women, or whatever--so long as it's fun or interesting to watch. Why can't you unicorns understand something so basic? Not everyone got into anime and vtubing because they couldn't get a boyfriend or girlfriend.

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>>36474565
Imagine a world where we can seperate VA with a boyfriend and entertainer who play a vtuber.

I know it crazy concept for EOP schizo in 4chan, but sane people already know they marry and people still people watch them.

It like watching a tv, only schizo scream cuck for watching a girl on tv acting and complain "she marry, her name not really Susan but simba, why would you guy love get cuck by her?"

Ummm she playing a character, her real life doesn't matter for entertainment she cater to.

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>>36473747
>another KEK mentality loser who is afraid of males because they think that males exist to KEK them

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>>36481235
>all that matters is whether it is entertaining
Yet NijiEN is far from entertaining. You're speaking truth, but male collabs are supposed to be another kind of stream, not your whole identity.

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>>36473747
Wtf this bitch is always 100% right

[Anonymous No.]

>>36473747
>have a boyfriend that forbids collabs with males
>call it CGDCT

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>>36475135
>CGDCT isn't the only genre of anime
It's the only one that isn't made for trannies and fags.

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>>36474565
Nothing wrong with peko having a boyfriend

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>>36479994
Why would she do one if she thought there was something wrong with it? She did it because she wanted to, and people screamed at her, so she changed her content because she's a coward. It doesn't change that fundamentally she has no problem streaming with men. She is just afraid of her fanbase. Which how is that healthy?

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>>36473747
>UWAAAHHHH!!
>I WANT COLLABS!!!!!!
>VTUBERS SHOULD ALWAYS COLLAB!!!
>Get collabs
>NO I DONT WANT IT!!!!!!!!!

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>>36474845
Enlighten me

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>>36478206
He’s singling Mumei out instead of posting rrats or doxx about the others, so I don’t think he’s missing the point, though his image choice undermines it.
>>36479994
It’s not that she got a negative reception, she managed to dodge that for the most part. Seems more like she genuinely prefers not to do male collabs.

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>>36478945
Since when J-Idols are forbidden from interacting with men?

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>>36474565
Does anyone actually watch Peko for GFE? I just watch her because she is funny..

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>>36474692
The idea that women in their 20s would not be dating because of their weird fanbase is stupid. Yeah they wont bring it up, they wont collab with males but they are also not gonna stop their life. Do you think they are never getting married or dating anyone. Just put their life on hold for years.

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>>36473914
Thank god for Elon buying twitter

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Hoocuck cope will never fail to make me laugh

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>>36481288
>filtered
Thanks anon, I keked.

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>>36481235
Why don't you understand that it's not only the unicorn who have problem with male colab, well in your distorded mental gymnastic obviously everyone who don't like this shit is a unicorn, but you have to put that on your own retardation.
Here it is for the 100th time : only female have also a unique dynamic that fag absolutly ruin to the ground, also solo have a special dynamic, and fag collab spam, who is male Vtuber unique card nowodays just fucking ruin everything. People always said, if you want that go to niji they serve what you want, but no you needed to force hololive to serve you what (you) want and you act all surprised when after changing the menu all the people who where going here for years threat you like a pest. Because that what you are, a pest.

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>>36481340
NijiJP is very entertaining though. And it's been mixed gender always. Just because EN people aren't entertaining doesn't mean that there's a problem with male-female collabs. It only depends on the people involved. Just like a lot of girl-girl collabs fucking suck too. It's about who people click with, and that doesn't always follow gender lines. This would be obvious to literally anyone who has ever left their house.

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>>36473747
Literally parroting /vt/

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>>36480450
Those numbers for cover are real.

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>>36481943
She also said she hates /vt/ and it’s a shitty place, and the second worst place on the internet after reddit.
Make up your mind how you will.

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>>36479994
That's the Senchou model. Do a male collab once. Whales and member tell her they don't like it and she openly says she won't do another because most people don't care or are opposed to it. Most Holofans are negative or indifferent to male collabs. It's the female minority and the trannies that won't shut up about it.

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>>36481414
My chicken is getting cold.
>>36481429
Anon is bullshitting about negative reception, everyone just ignored it. Seems more like she decided to try it and didn’t like it.

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>>36482012
Most people on /vt/ would agree with that statement though

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>>36481834
A female-female collab is not intrinsically good. It depends on the people involved. Not every female knows how to interact with another female. Not every male is good interacting with other men. You say I'm retarded--but this is just an obvious fact of life and of streamers. Forcing girls who are not good at interacting with girls to only interact with girls is fucking muslim shit. Why is that hard to understand?

And again, even if you aren't a unicorn and you still prefer to watch only girls--THAT'S NOT EVERYONE!!! Why is that so hard to understand? There is literally nothing wrong with variety in streaming. The problem is these dumbass purist rules that put limits on what people can and can't do and who they can and can't collab with. If a girl doesn't want to stream with guys--THEN LET HER. If a girl wants to ONLY stream with guys--THEN LET HER. If she wants to just stream with whoever--THEN LET HER.

Who the fuck fucking cares? If you don't like the content--you can watch someone who does make what you like. But forcing people to do it your way or get called a whore is fucking dumb incel logic. Leave your house. Touch grass!

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>>36481912
Ah, of course, there's the "I'm right and I'll call you names if you imply otherwise". Also, I was agreeing with you, the point is to let your chuubas do what they feel is best and not listen to both retarded unicorns or toutists like you.

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>>36481834
>>36482256
Why do I feel these are GPT-3 chamas training?

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>>36482012
She's right again

[Anonymous No.]

>it's a "/here/tuber copies an opinion from the /vt/ catalog to pander to her audience of mentally stunted retards and we all take turns calling her based for being so brave" episode

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>>36473747
why does she talk like that

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>>36482418
>heretuber
>Shondo
She has told 4chan to fuck off multiple times and has said she hates this website and doesn’t want that audience

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>>36482259
Didn't call you a name. Just critiqued the logic. Do your english reps, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

I want my oshi to collab in general because I want her to grow as an entertainer.
To have her leave her comfort zone and actually build an audience that isn't eating itself in shit.
And when everyone is having legitimate fun with other vtubers, she will otherwise stagnate because she wants to pander to an audience that will self destruct on a pin drop.

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>>36482450
Mental illness

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>>36482469
>stream content is talking about cunny, uooohhing, and chatting with pippa about "glowies"
Now you want to convince me she came up with the idea of "vtubers as CGDCT" by herself? That idea combined with the autistic as fuck acronym has literally never broken containment.

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>>36482744
>clipwatcher

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>>36482256
>Not every female knows how to interact with another female.
Those should not be vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

No one cares SEAUnicorn
Your oshi fucks men

[Anonymous No.]

Shondo is an idiot. "Vtubers can't collab with males" was never a thing before Hololive and still isn't with Niji, Vshojo and now HoloEN. I understand that she does GFE and won't do it because it would upset her fans but why shit on other talent who does? To score points I guess?

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>>36480450
Here's an old post that explains how they get it by the way.
>>25008228
This is from before 2002 results were published. They're not a public company so they don't have to report as extensively as anycolor but they do still need to publish their results either online or in newspapers and you can pay to get access to the databases containing those numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36483078
>2002
Meant 2022 of course.

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>>36474692
What does that have to do with anything? The thread is about collabing with males, not having sex with them. If this were a thread about which girls are whores or virgins, then that might be relevant. Although in the case of whores, unless they are just terminally online virgins who never talk about sexual topics at all, any e-girl is by default a whore unless she has a monogamous real-life relationship and she keeps it separate from her public life where she is not sexual at all. This idea that a girl is bad if she secretly has a boyfriend but not if she's whoring herself online is the embodiment of the simp mindset. The secret boyfriend is only bad if she's also a whore online but being a whore online is always bad.

[Anonymous No.]

Niji has guys who aren't absolute members and drama whores? I only watch Niji for Yashiro anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>36474692
HAHAHAAHHA
I fucking love how all the good girls collab with males and all the unicuck friendly vtubers have BFs or have a past history thoting, even the biggest GFE vtuber was fucking alien dick.
Face it unikeks this hobby is not for you and you're not welcome aside from being condom money supplier.

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>>36473747
>I watch vtubers for CGDCT
Cool, that's great
>and I think 99% of other people do too
Now why would she go and say something that she likely knows is wrong?

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>>36481563
I doubt anyone actually believes it. Nobody is going to put their dating life on hold for years during the prime of their life to appeal to a bunch of touchy losers online. Everyone in their 20s are either in a relationship or in a brief 1-6 month period between two relationships where they are hooking up with people are trying to find someone to settle down with.

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>>36484145
Normies sure. But the average Vtuber isn’t normie enough to be in a stable relationship and plenty don’t even leave their houses enough to find someone to date if they VTube full time and don’t have work or school. That means either they’re honest or dating a fan or some shit.

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>>36484351
That's kayfabe.

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>>36484145
Not that unusual for young people, including women, to be single for long periods. This is especially true if you're a total nerd loser and your job is sitting in front of the computer at your parents' house instead of anything that would force you to actual meet anyone.

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>>36484523
>young people
It's FAR more unusual for young people. 20s are your dating prime and you want to make use of it the best you can. In your 30s it's time for desperation dating, and if that doesn't work out, then you might be fucked and single for years at 40+. But in your 20s? People either get a longtime partner or are hooking up with a bunch of people, nobody just lets their prime drift by.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36473747
you still have a lot to learn from Fauna Shadow

[Anonymous No.]

Is HoloEN even worth defending? They never had the girl-on-girl chemistry like JP has, llike this for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP_XALN-j5I
Maybe collabing with guys is more suited for some of the girls in EN, or maybe it doesn't even save them from being bland bitches, I wouldn't know

[Anonymous No.]

>>36484869
That used to be true but zoomers are dating less and having less sex than any generation in history. And in that this industry attracts gigantic losers it's not that far-fetched that some of them are single.

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>>36485141
I feel sometimes like a lot of people let themselves get tricked into believing tht the girls that are vtubers are all 10/10 beauties who would spit on them in the street because they have a hot avatar. When in reality a good portion of them are incredibly plain girls that would have likely been considered nerds, geeks, loser and likely be the target of bullying from more popular girls in their school life. They're mostly not some kind of untouchable goddesses but some girl you might walk past at an anime convention and not even have a sexual thought about her cross your mind.

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>>36473747
All of them understand it. Half of them are just going for a different fanbase than you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36485726
They didn't go for that fanbase at all for the first 1 or 2 years

[Anonymous No.]

>>36485548
>some girl you might walk past at an anime convention and not even have a sexual thought about her cross your mind
Anon I have some news about anime conventions for you

[Anonymous No.]

Why does she think male vtubers will flirt with her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36485807
Yeah. They were new to vtubing at the time, and even then Myth tried a lot of unconventional things in their prime. None of them did hard GFE to pander specifically to unicorns, for example (maybe Ina, if you count it as that).
They've been in the industry long enough to choose different paths for themselves now. And since one of the biggest benefit of Holo is the security blanket, it makes sense that at least some of them are trying out other things.
Honestly, I understand unicorns and where they are coming from. But this attitude of "EVERY chuuba must cater to my taste, no exceptions, or they are literally satan" still is baffling. There are plenty of girls - HoloEN girls even - that still caters to unicorns and they're not changing their content anytime soon. Is there a reason to seethe just because other girls choose to try to explore other avenues?

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>>36486186
Because in early 2021 before she was a Vtuber and when she was a teenager she appeared on the stream of a therapist male 2view who made music for her, a guy in his 30s. She seemed awkward the whole time and unfollowed him on everything after and stopped using his music. This is likely her only experience with male vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>36486186
Men only become vtubers to groom women. It is known. Ask /wvt/ about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36486186
because she spends too much time on /vt/. she's a diagnosed schizophrenic btw

[Anonymous No.]

I checked out some of her vods and she's actually pretty entertaining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36486186
Because the only reason men become vtubers is to try and flirt with well known anime women
That and to make up for their lack of real actual looks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36486186
Because that's what 95% of online VC interaction between men and women is. The only way you can avoid it is through massive age differences or them being married to other people already but obviously even that isn't foolproof. Have you never played games with girls online?

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>>36487049
>Have you never played games with girls online?
no kronii i have not

[Anonymous No.]

>>36486707
Tbh Vox the ultimate bfe vtuber dosent even look that bad tho he's trying to gain sympathy by announcing he has Adhd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36487099
It's overrated. You're much better off finding a gay dude to be your pocket healer

[Anonymous No.]

>>36482450
>Shadow is affected by schizoaffective disorder and occasionally talks about her experiences coping with it.

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>>36486186
Dunno I've watched thousands of hours probably of male and female vtubers in the same stream together and I'd only classify a tiny portion of that as flirting and then most of the time it's when both of the vtubers involved are intentionally trying to be shipped. Otherwise they tend to try quite hard to be careful not to go to far and keep things professional and friendly rather than flirtatious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36475317
The actual betrayal is not that she has a bf, is that she's 5'7"

Makes me sick.

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>>36486707
You can say the same thing about women. Maybe even moreso. A lot of the EN women vtubers know almost nothing about what came before them in vtubing and even less about anime. They're just doing it to grift (male)simps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36486186
How many tweets did she make about this? Why is she arguing with literal whos on Twitter?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36473747
Me thinks Shondo if one of the schizos sperging agaist Tempus.
Also, she knows shit about vtubing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36487460
lol there's people in nijien latest wave that are self admitted luxiem fangirls before they got in

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>>36487441
A lot of anons actually don’t believe this now. Watch her handcam stream from yesterday. The ribbons on her wrists are 4cm in diameter. You can calculate that her hands are roughly 12cm long. That’s smaller than Kobo’s and likely Gura’s.
Her hands and wrists and arms are way too tiny in structure for her to be that tall. Someone in /lig/ compared her hands to a ligger who is confirmed 5’2 when they opened the same snackbox, and it looks normal in the hands of the other girl but everything looks supersized when Shondo handles it. Unless she is 5’7 with the hands of a 4’9 child it’s bullshit.

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>>36487460
And thats why you avoid Indie 2-3views
Although the Big corpo companies are letting them slip in through the cracks so they can spread their garbage

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>>36487599
I think it's possible considering how much of a stick she is. Her arm was outright anorexic when she posted it during her subathon.

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>>36474565
Like how gura had/have a BF when she was senzawa but everyone seems to forget it.

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>>36474692
Probably all of them do tourist-kun. But guess what? As long as they don't talk about it on stream and play into the CGDCT fantasy nobody gives a shit.

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>>36473747
Gura unironically gets it she even used the cute girls doing cute things talking point

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>>36474755
>1view
>gets more viewers than the average nijien female
what did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.]

The problem is the fanbase
People will ship anything that moves, they do it all the time n /mans/ and it's always "this bitch wants *insert tempus member* dick, what a whore" which kinda proves a point, it's tough being a woman around nale co-workers and no because of unicorns, normalfags are even worse

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>>36473747
I will now watch your 2view

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>>36487599
Keep coping

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>>36473747
"I'm not mentally ill! See? Shondo agrees with me!"

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>>36488114
I don’t give a shit about her height, I’m 6’3 and still a touchless virgin. Nobody cares.
I’m just telling you what people have been saying. Her whole arm was visible at some point so someone can probably calculate the length of her forearm.

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>>36487990
>822 average viewers
>inclining
>2view
Kek

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>>36488225
If you dont care then stop talking about it

[Anonymous No.]

Shondo is literally the Holo that wasn't
We all lost because she rejected the contract
Now instead of saving Hololive, she came to save the world
Shondo is Jesus

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>>36474816
Anon, you understand the idea that a woman in her 20's wouldn't be dating someone is completely fucking retarded? I think close to 100% of women in their 20's are dating and/or married. Especially a woman with money and lots of free time. I mean come on

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>>36488280
Woah I didn't actually know that, thanks, good for her
I will now watch your 3view

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>>36488188
No joke. /vt/ is incredible.

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>>36487963
I'd say it's kind of both. You will get people unironically shipping any male and female that seem to be having normal friendly fun together. And "unicorns" not nessecarily for that vtuber but for others "shipping" them as in making out normal interaction to be more than that to try to troll the other unicorns that are their fans.

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>>36488280
That's pretty solid and it seems fairly earned.

[Anonymous No.]

Has anyone asked JayDeeVA if gura pussy is good?

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>>36488400
This just isn't realistic. I used to go out drinking with a large friend group in their early to mid 20s from work every week. I think in the overall group there were maybe 2 girls in serious relationships out of maybe 8 or so. A few more seemed to be actively looking. Then the others didn't have anything going on really.

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>>36488757
He was in another continent all along, you need to let this go, it's been 2 years...

[Anonymous No.]

>>36474692
All me

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>>36481563
Uh, yes? These aren't your average young women with no prospects. Are you not familiar with idols? It just depends on what's at stake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36473747
>pickme: the tweet
even more hilarious coming from someone with a boyfriend

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>>36489040
he wasn't in another continent when they were playing games together on stream

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>>36489130
VTubers are not idols i'm sorry to be the first one to tell you this, Anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36489040
If I let it go the chumpedos win and they can't keep fucking getting lucky for this long. She'll slip eventually

[Anonymous No.]

>>36473747
If you only care about CGDCT then why are you still upset with them when they are not streaming with males at all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36489324
This isn't about autistic definitions of what an idol is, it's about the fact that there positions where relationships are avoided because they can critically damage their position and prospects.

[Anonymous No.]

The people complaining about male collabs, could hire some hookers and get a pussy for less than what they spent on the vtubers just to say their name

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>>36474197
shondo is always like this. her perspective is the truth and everything else is wrong. last week she was talking about the defining characteristics of lolis and she was way off and got noticeably upset when people wouldn't agree with her made up definition. she's certifiably mentally ill though, pls understand.

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>>36489437
so then call it what they are: vtubers are women who profit off parasocial relationships. Some idols do that sure but capitalizing on adult male virginity does not make you an idol.

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>>36473747
why not show the tweet she was applying to, OP? these are the kinds of people your oshi agrees with. I'm surprised no one ever brings up how most unicorn friendly vtubers are just man-hating feminists. GFE is billed as this male-servicing act when really it's just a bunch of dried up cakes getting back at their ex boyfriends by manipulating lonely virgins online

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>>36489917
k but i'm gonna go with what they generally call themselves, not what some random anon on the internet calls it

[Anonymous No.]

All this infighting between actual unicorns and gachis needs to stop, the absolute best you can hope for out of these women is that they understand the fundamental appeal of vtubers and also understand why their male fanbase don't want to be third wheeled whilst they have fun with other men on stream. If you have found a chuuba like that congratulations, it doesn't get much better.

Be happy they have the grace to only cuck you in private and spend considerable effort keeping the illusion alive for you, that is top percentile empathy from women right there, enjoy it. Whilst we would all love to live in a world where all female entertainers were subject to weekly hymen checks so you could superchat with no lingering doubts, we don't live in that world and women are not held accountable.
Don't let the perfect become the enemy of the good, become a gachi, unicorns are not real.

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>>36486291
The expectations regarding male collabs in HoloEN wasn’t created in a vacuum. They were inherited from JP by simply being under the same brand, and the girls, knowingly or unknowingly, reinforced those expectations for the HoloEN brand and for their own personal brands with their behavior before Tempus. Now you see some break with expectations set by themselves, the branch, and the company as a whole, and it creates uncertainty. Will the girls who still cater to gachis get dragged in? Who else will do an about-face? Most of the girls who chose to collab with Tempus opened up a can of worms with their conduct.

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>>36490180
That's not empathetic, that's still fucked up because it's deceptive. I don't know how that's acceptable to you but I guess I don't have the cuck mindset.

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>>36481235
Based.

>>36481834
Learn English.

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>>36488367
>instead of Ina recruiting her friend we could have had Fauna and her friend debut in the same gen
I want out of this stupid timeline

[Anonymous No.]

>>36481235
Cool, so go watch Niji. And let people who enjoy what HoloPro (and HoloEN as a whole used to do) watch that. Why does everything need to be the same?

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>>36490321
I am not saying it isn't fucked up, I am saying it is reality. Women cheat on men who are actually physically present in their lives for all sorts of reasons, if you honestly think that young, relatively successful women are going to put their romantic lives on a complete hold for a faceless amalgamation of men she will likely never meet then you are going to be perpetually disappointed.

If you see it as fucked up and deceptive, then that should probably tell you something about the entire hobby desu

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>>36474104
Pandering /here/ chuuba. Stock standard.

Anyway she's not wrong regardless. Since Luxiem debuted I've grown convinced over the months that being absolute scum is apparently some sort of hard requirement to be a male vtuber. Every single one that shows up is an obnoxious Twitchnigger at best and a literal groomer schizo at worst.

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>>36490687
I don't really care what you think doompostfag, I get that you've resigned yourself to the assumption that all women will betray you, and you can live that life. Not everyone can live with no hopes and dreams.

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>>36490227
Sorta. HoloJP was not a stranger to male collabs. Heck, one of the girls considered a pillar of Hololive (Fubuki) even does it. Though for EOP gachis (which is probably most of the ones from /vt/), you're not wrong in that they are insulated enough from this to have an unrealistic rosy view of the Japanese branch.
And yeah, you're right, the Myth girls were just doing normal vtuber things at the start since they're
still new to it all, but that does unintentionally feed into the affirmation. None of them (except maybe Ina) showed signs of actively pandering to the gachi fanbase, though.
I can understand uncertainty; there's a lot of nothingburgers in vtubing that gets blown to high heavens because of rampant speculation. It doesn't change the fact that the fearmongering and doomposting is still ridiculous, though. It's much better to go support girls like Gura or Fauna, let your wallet affirm their business decisions, than it is to friggin call for graduations or even the collapse of vtubing altogether.
Like yeah, I know it happens all the time in all types of content. It just doesn't make it any more silly when it happens again here.

[Anonymous No.]

She only says shit to appeal to autismos like you.

HOWEVER

She is right in the sense that a collab between luxiem or tempus is more entertaining than awkwardly having someone like amelia collabing with chiliman since amelia has no personality. Sometimes the girls just don't 'fit'. In this, Selen makes more sense since she's loud and plays well with men. Girls who are too girlish just don't fit, girls who are quiet don't work well either.

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>>36487481
Too many. She is obsessed with the subject when it was a single person who asked about it.

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>>36482744
>the autistic as fuck acronym has literally never broken containment.
I doubt that but I'm not gonna check reddit anime to check

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>>36491133
She was asked this question like 4 times over marshmallows before these comments

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>>36490021
Yeah these people demonize males and believe their fellow women can do no wrong.

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>>36490490
Because the two companies are more similar than the fans want to admit.

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>>36490951
I watch Gura precisely because she hasn't betrayed me actually, it is just that our standards for what constitutes a betrayal are very different.
She gives me hope, she makes me happy and she has enough empathy for her audience to understand that we love her and despite never actually having a chance with the RM she still understands it would hurt us to see other men get to break that barrier and get close to her on stream so she doesn't do it.

She streams, she makes us feel special and loved when she does, and I don't expect anything more than that from her than that.

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>>36473747
I wish more females thought like this and stayed away from my male oshis.

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>>36491214
I assume each of those marros got a dedicated 4 hour stream sperging about it

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>>36491372
To you that might be beautiful, but to me it would be disgusting if that were the case. It's a matter of values. I trust that Gura is one that acts on principles, not "empathy" in the twisted way that you've put it.

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>>36490687
Anon, you realize that different women are different, right? Just because you are relatively successful doesn't mean that you want to pursue romance, or that you're socially competent enough to do so without help.
Vtubing tends to draw in women (and men actually) with social anxiety. Heck, quite a few of them admitted to not leaving their house unless necessary, and even more just shut down when placed under any irl social situation. This even includes some of the most popular ones like Miko and Pekora.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if most of them are actually single, not dating. (And since many of them are doxxed by obsessive fans, we know for a fact that they lean towards single, even well into their thirties)..

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>>36491474
Just the last one you faggot

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>>36473747
Why do so many of these literal whos like to pick fights with nijiholo? Is this what they call clout chasing?

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>>36491787
If she already addressed it then doing this over Twitter is even funnier

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>>36491515
Hell I don't know, maybe Gura is herself a literal unicorn of a girl, self-sacrificing enough to forgo such an important part of a persons private life because of the "principle" that because she is taking 5 dollars a month from a bunch of men who love her, she owes them complete chastity in her private life.

Not holding out hope though, she isn't even close to a Lamy or a Rushia situation demanding their fans to be faithful and selling promise rings. Everyone who fell in love with Gura did it because of her lovely personality, not because of aggressive GFE mindfucking.

Keep on keeping on though unicorn friend, I hope you are right and in the end though our standards for purity are very different, we both want the same thing when it comes to content which is no males.

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>>36492029
aye, I can drink to that

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>>36475666
Whenever I see these threads I ask myself, why? It's not like anyone had any chance to fuck with any of them. someone normal sees them because they want entertainment or something that is obtained through the screen (company, something parasocial, etc). It's like you want to fuck everyone you see on a show or pewdie himself lol. For me as long as she doesn't fool her audience with GFE baits or keep her real life private, that's fine.

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>>36492029
>self-sacrificing enough to forgo such an important part of a persons private life
Oh please. Countless people are single and live just fine. Doing that on purpose and not having any romance in your life for a few years while you're doing a holo job that makes you a millionaire is not exactly a lot to ask.

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>>36491372
But how would you feel if she really wanted to collab with guys, but doesn't do it just because she fears the backlash she might get or just because she doesn't want to make anyone feel jealous?
If you only respect her because she caters to what you want without taking into consideration what she might want, tell me why do you think you deserve any kind of respect from her?
I'm sorry dude, but to me you're not a fan, you're just a simp.

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>>36493373
She's doing a job. Making fans happy is part of that. If something as minor as not collabing with some guy or eceleb has to go because of that then that's very little to ask of someone who gets to make this much money in return.

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>>36474755
how drunk are you? get some coffee. that's a 4 view avg indie, brother

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>>36473747
I was about to give you a response but then I realised you literally don't have anything to respond to. You don't have an opinion, or a statement. You're shallow as fuck. A loser who posts other peoples opinions and pretends they're his.

Grow a goddamn spine.

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>>36473914
Everyone who was in there for woke shit is leaving for mastodon (LMAO) to be in an even more secluded echo chamber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36475385
It's true. You can indeed say the word nigger on Twitter without being banned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36473747
an obvious containment breaker...
probably OP himself

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>>36473979
>Gura
Biggest vtuber in the world doesn't have any reason to collab with streamers that can't even break 1mil

>Kiara
Probably wants to stay away from them assuming they ALL know what she did before vtubing.

>IRyS
I don't know about this one, probably feels uncomfortable with it.

>Fauna
Her platform is GFE and she knows associating with male vtubers will make her most devoted fans feel bad.

>Mumei
Shy and awkward

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>>36493373
>how would you feel if headcanon
First of all, she has gone harder than any other holoEN in ghosting every mention of tempus, never mentioned their announcement, never mentioned their debuts, doesn't follow on twitter, skipped over superchats for nothing more than having a tempus related name and completely ignoring her chat when she asks some kind of question that causes it to be filled with tempus mentions.
Nobody really expected her to go quite this militant on ignoring males, not even her biggest fans. She is taking a such a firm position because SHE wants to, you can debate the reasons for that but the simple fact is she is the biggest EN chuuba and if she wanted to throw them some simple acknowledgement like " I wish them luck " or " Support them if you want but I won't be collabing" She could have done so with very little actual blowback but she still chose not to do so.

Combined with her multiple mentions of hololive being about cute girls in streams leading up to Tempus debut I think it is pretty safe to say she actually does have an idea of what she wants hololive and by extension her content to continue to be and is not just doing it out of fear of her fans like so many people like to insinuate.

As far as only respecting her because she caters to me, that is not true, I still respect Ame, I still think she is a good person who does a lot for hololive and myth in particular. I don't watch her male collabs though and feel disappointed in her content for the reasons I outlined in the previous post.

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>>36493454
That's my point. If anyone would immediately discard her because she interacts with a male that means they are not a fan but just a self-centered simp who doesn't deserve any respect to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36494101
>>>>Kiara
>bitching about not being part of Bad End Night
RUH ROH

[Anonymous No.]

>>36493373
It's a business decision in the end. If a Minecraft streamer suddenly decides to switch to JRPGs, they are going to lose fans too. That doesn't mean that it's wrong to play JRPGs or that people are wrong for not watching him anymore.
Gura's a veteran; I doubt she's afraid of the backlash. Rather, she wants to keep her fan base relatively intact, so she restricts herself for this. It's a pretty smart business move considering the saturation of the vtuber market and how hard it is to find new fans nowadays.
Using Mori as an example, she had elected to break away from fans she doesn't want and keep her viewerbase to a smaller, more loyal group In exchange, this gives her more freedom to do what she wants and pursue other things like her music contract. Time will tell if this was a wise decision in the long term, but slimming down her fanbase was either a choice, or a consequence of her business decisions.
This sort of thing happens in JP, too. Towa, for example, cultivated a low-gachi fanbase so she could do whatever she wants. Lamy, on the other hand, has much more gachis and thus have similar restrictions as Gura. In exchange for this, Lamy gets easier merchandising deals and monetization, whereas Towa's merchandise sales are generally lower. She also has to work harder to keep good relations with other Holos for fandom diffusion.
A lot of vtuber decisions makes more sense when you think of them as brands that the VAs have to maintain, and everything they do as a cost-benefit tradeoff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36494105
As long as you don't antagonize anyone who does what they feel like they want to do even if it doesn't align with what you want, you have my respect.
Have a good one mate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36494473
Aside from expressing some disappointment here now and again or choosing to not watch anymore I would never lower myself to actually becoming an anti.
You too!

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>>36482315
for what it's worth, i don't think either of those are aiposts. i clocked >>36481834 as a run-of-the-mill chinese shitstirrer, probably from taiwan, who gets his rocks off by throwing gasoline on holodrama thread dumpster fires, and >>36482256 as a 30+ never-married white american woman with beef curtains that look like well-done steak, who needs her desire for personal independence to be constantly validated by the people around her

[Anonymous No.]

>>36493799
Please be true

[Anonymous No.]

>>36481005
THIS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36473747
Os she ok?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36495777
she has severe mental illness that is why we love her

[Anonymous No.]

>>36491010
The more extreme talk comes from a lack of credibility. People feel like they can no longer trust what the guys and girls say to assuage their fears. The expectation from JP was that it would be infrequent, limited to small proportion of the girls, and handled in a professional manner. Tempus said they wanted to focus on building themselves up first, Mori said she wanted them to establish themselves before they collab, and Ame said that it wouldn’t be a common occurrence, reinforcing the notion that they’d follow expectations. Collab ban ends, and that doesn’t happen, with the girls giving flippant responses when asked about it, seemingly doing more collabs to spite complaining fans. Moreover, Ouro “You want GFE? I’ll show you GFE!” Kronii, who gave no indication of having any interest in male collabs beforehand, joining Tempus collabs and mishandling the audience reaction so badly that management had to step in. That one really hardened people’s positions. Out of the EN girls who joined male collabs, only Bae has really handled it the way Fubuki would.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36473747
>Why don't holoEN try to understand us? the 4chan audience?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36496663
>Mori said she wanted them to establish themselves before they collab
Mori never said she would collab infrequently. She just said she wants Tempus to take root first, which they arguably did given their debut numbers. Also, this is Mori we are talking about. Even the most hardened of unicorns wouldn't think that Mori would not collab with Tempus regularly. There was never an expectation here in the first place.

>Ame said that it wouldn’t be a common occurrence
To this day, Ame still has a "group collabs only" policy with them. She actually has fewer Tempus collabs than even Bae, if my counts are correct.

>Kronii
The only real exception to the rule.

>The expectation from JP was that it would be infrequent
For Fubuki, sure. But someone like Towa will have multiple streams of Apex with guys and people generally don't care. Different talents different expectations.

>The more extreme talk comes from a lack of credibility
I'm pretty sure you've seen the Gura/Fauna/Irys triforce. Unis still trust the heck out of them, so I don't think anyone seriously believes that it would expand any more than what we have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36481235
>There's a fun dynamic between men and women
>Nijisanji as a brand is built on the idea that all of these types of content can coexist and all that matters is whether it is entertaining.
>. Why can't you unicorns understand something so basic?
>The collabs in question
>Cock cock cock cock cock fuck my pussy cock cock cock cock SEX LOL cock cock cock lets fuck on stream cock cock cock cock off stream collab sex session cock cock Vox's dick is so big! cock cock cock cock
Yes anon. What a wonderful dynamic they have. I for one love being cucked repeatedly by my Oshi live. Its obviously the perfect dynamic to have!

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>>36481563
>Do you think they are never getting married or dating anyone. Just put their life on hold for years?
Yes anon, I do. That's the price you pay when you join Hololive. The IDOL vtuber agency. You wanna be a disgusting whore? Go to Nijisanji. Talk about all the cock you take daily thats fine. You want to join Hololive and get instantly famous and have tons of success? Pay the idol tax. It's that simple. They don't have to join the idol company. If you join Hololive and have a BF you deserve to get graduated the second it inevitably comes out in a huge shit storm yab. How it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36498617
There are no collabs like that schizobro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36498226
>m pretty sure you've seen the Gura/Fauna/Irys triforce. U
That literally exists so that if one of them "defects" people can shit on them relentlessly. No one ever posts that image in good faith because it wasn't made in good faith.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36481005
>family also banned.
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36498226
I’m not saying Mori said they’d be infrequent, and clearly there’s a chunk of the audience who think that Tempus hasn’t established itself and is relying on collabs. Ame going out of her way to organize a collab featuring Tempus got people worried because they were under the impression that she’d merely join stuff that other people organized. Also, singing along to the Regis clip during a karaoke undermines the “don’t like it, don’t watch it” idea when that would entail her gachis walking on eggshells during every karaoke onward in case it happens again. If you’re comparing quantity of collabs to Bae, it’s debatable, but I said she’s handled it better from the professionalism angle, not the frequency one. Fans knew what to expect from her, and while people who don’t normally watch her got the impression she was talking down to her fans about it, I’ve seen Brrats claim it’s just banter, so I wouldn’t fault her for being Australian and they don’t seem to either. You seem to be focusing too much on the frequency aspect and ignoring the “proportion of the girls” and professionalism aspects. Towa handles her male collabs in a professional manner and she’s just one of many in JP, so it’s easier to ignore than nearly half of EN’s roster. Also Towa is a bit of a special case due to how the male voice yab affected her career path.
The triforce image is pretty much exclusively a shitposting tool and shouldn’t be used as evidence of anything. It’s there to incite arguments over why Ina (before the Bad End Night cover) and Kiara aren’t included, or whether Mumei’s Gartic Phone collab with StarsJP ought to still count, or whether she should be treated like Miko and Subaru. Otherwise it’s meant to invite doxxshit and rrats about sound engineers, male managers, and transatlantic cock.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36498815
Fair enough. Regardless, I have not seen any indication of doubt on any of the three, so same point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36498791
This is every NijiEN mixed gender collab anon. You are actively being cucked live on stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36481235
>You're going to tell me that Roberu-Mea aren't more fun to watch than fucking SNOT?
An actual unironic cuckold, holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>36481563
>ALL WOMEN ARE WHORES AND THOTS
No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36489917
>he thinks idols are about music
take a look at this retard kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>36482744
>That idea combined with the autistic as fuck acronym has literally never broken containment.
https://myanimelist.net/anime/genre/52/CGDCT
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=CGDCT

It's funny watching Twitter Trannies getting their first dose of anime culture thinking /vt/ came up with everything they see here. CGDCT goes back as far as K-ON which came out over a decade ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36482928
>but why shit on other talent who does?
Because they're fucking garbage? Name a single good whoretuber

[Anonymous No.]

>>36499554
haha no way man K-ON came out like five years ago... >_>

[Anonymous No.]

>>36482012
Well yeah, she's right

[Anonymous No.]

>>36499554
>CGDCT goes back as far as K-ON
Really? I always assumed it atleast went as far back as Ichigo Mashimaro, especially since the description is something like "Cute girls doing cute things in cute ways"

[Anonymous No.]

>>36473747
Because half or more of holoEN genuinely hates their audience and they think it's empowering to just spam male collabs to spite them. Kronii is the perfect example, she had to hide behind management and then went "I'll do what I want anyway fuck idol culture :)" and got away with it specifically because she's a corporate vtuber. She doesn't HAVE to appreciate her audience, none of them do. The brand makes it so they lose nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36499005
>Mori
I have not seen a single person who argue that Mori made them lose trust because Tempus hasn't established themselves yet. If it exists, it's so rare that it might as well not have. And again, this is Mori we are talking about. Her gachis are long gone before Tempus even debuted. No one has expectations in any regard here.

>Ame professionalism
Okay, you keep on bringing up "professionalism", but never defined it other than to just assume all JPs have it and ENs other than Bae does not. Towa did a one-on-one with a kenzoku who gushed over her for a while completely unprompted. Matsuri literally makes lewd jokes with guys and flirts with them on-stream. If somehow those things are more professional than organizing a fairly mundane Worms tournament, then your definition of "professionalism" is too arcane for me to ever understand.
I can understand the "smaller proportion of JP" angle, but again, that doesn't justify the extreme stuff or make them any less cringe.

>Triforce
Sure, I can give you this one, but as I said to the other guy, there's no trust lost in Gura or Fauna from what I've seen in the posts, so I don't accept this as a concern so grand that it justifies doomposting EN graduations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36486295
sauce?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36500146
With Mori, it’s the combination of that and similar statements from the guys. While people don’t bring up Mori specifically, they complain about Tempus being a bunch of leeches instead of trying to stand on their own like StarsJP, and the girls enabling them.
Matsuri doesn’t make statements that can be interpreted as shitting on her fans, act in a way that makes it look like she’s doing more collabs to spite the complainers, or voice sympathy toward people who don’t want male collabs, only to do an about-face. That’s professionalism. Bae has been open and consistent and clearly chooses to do what she does because she enjoys it, rather than some asinine shit about “owning the haters.”
Again with the triforce shit, it’s done for the sake of shitposting. Those girls automatically have a target painted on their backs on the issue, where you get walls of text about how Mori is going to corrupt IRyS, or how Gura wants to collab with some e-celebs. Their gachis may be convinced, but the wider community isn’t. People said Ina wouldn’t do it due to lack of interest, only for Bad End Night to happen, and Kiara to say she’d have considered had an opening been available. That tells the community that everyone has a price, and makes them wonder what the other girls are willing to pay. On top of that, Gura was barely present for most of August and September, so saying she’s safe was as relevant as saying Ayame is safe.
Also, I’m not sure why you think I’m say that the doomposting is justified. I’m simply saying it’s a natural outcome of what’s happened, and the disillusionment it seems to be creating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36486186
Male vtubers only exist for shipbait
Even nux and vesper fell for the shipbait meme

[Anonymous No.]

>>36498758
Based beyond recognition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36481563
>he idea that women in their 20s would not be dating because of their weird fanbase is stupid. Yeah they wont bring it up, they wont collab with males but they are also not gonna stop their life. Do you think they are never getting married or dating anyone. Just put their life on hold for years.
This is the price you pay, vtubers don't have a fanbase, they have a covenant.
They do not make money off of hard work, but the expectations of being the replacement mate for their audience.

Vtubers are a community bike, and as long as no one gets to ride that bike in private, there is peace.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36498758
Based and true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36499554
no one fucking abbrevates cute girl doing cute things until faggots in /vt/ decided to hijack the phrase. I definitely havent heard that in /a/ or /jp/ to even enter the popular lexicon. Hell /a/ hates vtubers anyway so don't use that hurr durr 4chan culture excuse. This board is /v/ and /r9k/ and it shows because you faggots are autistic about video games and your girlfriend simulators.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36500055
/thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>36503183
>I definitely havent heard that in /a/ or /jp/
You know you’re going to get shit on for outing yourself as a newfag like this, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36490490
I don't understand this point of view where the only difference between content is whether there are men or not. There are other differences between Hololive and Nijisanji.
> Cool, so go watch Niji.
Doesn't work because Nijisanji doesn't have the same streamers making the same content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36501649
This

[Anonymous No.]

>>36473747
Based shondo with the correct opinions making normalfags butthurt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36479994
You know, I understand owlcucks trying to cope with the fact that their oshi let herself get roped into a collab with males but why do you feel the need to compare her with Ina who did something much more acceptable for an idol?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36503628
It wasn't fucking abbreviated you faggot. If you've been there only since 2016 you're a newfag, and if they use that shit now then they're being invaded by newfags as well. >hurrdurr terms evolve no time
Yeah fuck you zoomers

[Anonymous No.]

>>36473747
I don't check this board for 24 hours and now shondo has taken over what the fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>36506165
We joked in /lig/ about Shondo taking over /lig/ and /uoh/ and how she would soon take over the board
Now it is real

[Anonymous No.]

>>36506080
Keep digging yourself deeper. Going “no u” won’t help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36506253
Cunny will take over the world

[Anonymous No.]

>>36506961
>>/jp?search_text=CGDCT&ghost=yes&task=search&offset=192
Literally check archives on /jp/ and the acronym doesn't go far back beyond 2019.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36507985
So you’re saying that you’re newer than that, got it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36507985
actual newfaggot retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>36474723
Anon, your other dad will never be a real man
Get over it already

[Anonymous No.]

>>36494320
lol, was she?
i swear every time i happen to tune in to kiara(which isnt often) shes bitching about something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36494101
Do you want to talk about the character Mumei (shy and awkward) or the person behind the avatar? Just like Gura, IRyS and probably Fauna, they all have a lot of male friends irl. It has nothing to do with being shy. Mumei and Fauna chose Hololive over Nijisanji, because they wanted that all girl environment end of story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36508033
>>36508136
I've been on /a/ since 2005-2006 and frequented it in 2008-2014(?) (whenever Cross Ange was airing) and watched animu from madoka, code geass, samurai flamenco, vulvarape, etc during sundays and shitposted during the episode while waiting for translations. moeshit ruined /a/ and good fucking riddance shounenshit is ruining it now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36507985
>CGDCT
Can't tell if bait. I know people actually stupid enough to do this

[Anonymous No.]

>>36474501
Pico Park stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36475135
No shit, so stop forcing it on Hololive when you have Nijisanji for all your co-ed needs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36508308
Nice larping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36508235
>replies to a message 12h after it's been posted
kek that must have stung, huh faggot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36508484
Say his name if you can, faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36508252
>Mumei
>having a lot of friends

[Anonymous No.]

>>36508645
Online friends, yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36473747
>whose the intended audience
This.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36473747
I think CGDCT sucks ass. It's shit, and all of its fans have trash taste

[Anonymous No.]

>>36508252
>gura
>lots of male friends
gura has not mentioned friends outside hololive in 2 years

[Anonymous No.]

I blame Love Live and Im@s

[Anonymous No.]

>>36508780
You just found out what cgdct is in another catalog thread lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>36508780
Luckily for you, there are other genres, and we're not trying to colonize them, like some.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36508252
> the amount of friends each holomem has was revealed to me in a dream

[Anonymous No.]

>>36508670
All me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36498821
Nijis were told by management they werent allowed to talk about family members on stream anymore a while back. No idea if that order got rescinded though

[Anonymous No.]

>>36481287
True. Thats why nothing happened to rushia after her boyfriend messaged her on stream right anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36481965
Why would a japanese company write their documents in english. Checkmate faggot

[Anonymous No.]

This kind of rhetoric is what causes overblown drama when a girl decides to harmlessly collab with guys, like with Kronii. Fauna should be ashamed that her friends are pushing /vt/ tier garbage propaganda.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36512066
It’s MafuMafu’s fault for having a girlfriend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36489130
Are you? Idols getting caught with boyfriends is not rare at all. They have relationships they just never make them public for kayfabe

[Anonymous No.]

>>36512422
If I want to watch a fucking dude I will go and watch twitch streamer that is actually entertaining. Vtuber avatars and keyfabe made for parasocial integration. No sane mentally healthy person would watch Vtubers so people pretending to watch Vtubers just for entertainment are being high on cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36512422
Shut up you sensitive little bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>36473747
she has destroyed her career with this tweet

[Anonymous No.]

>>36517102
I'll destroy your asshole with my dick

[Anonymous No.]

>>36473747
SHONDO I KNEEL! I CLAPPED!

[Anonymous No.]

>>36500055
You're not the only audience fuck face. I dropped all the girls that are no males. Why the fuck should I watch someone that pretends like my gender is taboo no go unless I throw money at them. I'll watch the chicks that talk to the funny autismo men.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36475095
>old bait to reel in hoomans again
Anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>36517438
It's utterly bizzare logic too. "I hate males, but not the ones that watch and donate to my income!". It just comes off as absolutely fake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36518111
She doesn't want fans DMing her either, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>36473747
>terminally /here/
Opinion discarded, individual blacklisted

[Anonymous No.]

>>36500037
That guy is an obvious newfag to anime if the earliest CGDCT he can think of is k-on, pay him no mind

[Anonymous No.]

>>36518321
>anyone not on board with the judith butlerian jihad is le 4chins
Opinion not even worth considering

[Anonymous No.]

>>36518193
still doesn't change the hypocrisy of "i love my male fans who send me money, but all men suck!!!!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>36473747
I personally feel like anyone who sets themselves up entirely around this kind of identity is setting themselves up for a big controversy down the line eventually. It's like being the male celebrity who bases their identity on family values/being the "wife guy" we all know that one day it's probably going to come out that you cheated on your wife, because only somebody with something to hide would base their identity around something like that. Just like we all know a girl who is trying so hard to be "GFE" is probably going to be outed for having a husband or being a prostitute at some point or another.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36520665
She didn't say all males, she said male vtubers. If you've been in wvt at all you know how prevalent sex pests and groomer creeps are in the male vtubing sphere. Shondo doesn't want to risk it, so she avoids it all together, it's like avoiding the ghetto if you're driving a nice car

[Anonymous No.]

>>36520881
Truly spoken like a freak trying very hard to blend in, what kind of freak are you though? A fag, a kiddy diddler, a rapist, a sadist? What makes you feel like everyone who says anything is concealing something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36481563
Oh, please. This "kayfabe" argument is so goddamn stupid.
Why should vtubers be subject to a different standard to celebrities?
If you pander to a crowd that CLEARLY wants parasocial content (vtubing is inherently parasocial), then you should be shat on if you're found out to be doing the EXACT OPPOSITE. If a public figure/celeb gets shit on for doing the EXACT OPPOSITE of what they act as in public, then chuubas should be the same.

Enjoy the benefits, suffer the consequences. Simple as. Only cuckolds of the highest calibre would defend it.

That's why I personally think collabing with males is fine (if it'll actually be enjoyable content), but fucking a man on the side while enjoying that parasocial money is dishonest. You're a celebrity, deal with it like literally everybody else.

Most of ENs have no talent in general, they're just twitch e-thots with an anime avatar entertainment wise. They wouldn't be using an anime avatar otherwise. The logic of their rabid fans somehow sees the avatar as an excuse to evade the shitting e-thots get

[Anonymous No.]

>>36521107
It's more like overexaggerating this kind of behavior makes it very obvious you're hiding something. Like how someone like Ellen tried so hard to come across like a "beacon of positivity" only for it to turn out she's a massive bitch in private who makes everyone around her miserable over the tiniest things. I hate people like this because it's become so obvious when someone is doing that, I'd rather they be an asshole or a slut or whatever right from the get go because at least it shows they aren't trying to manipulate everyone. In this case, I feel like any vtuber who overexaggerates their GFE persona and tries to make a big point about how they avoid things like breathing the same air as a male is just a lying bitch who thinks everyone who'd watch her is too stupid to question her very obvious facade.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36522056
She was asked why she doesn't collab with males and she responded, I know you just look at a screenshot and that's it but occasionally you should consider context

[Anonymous No.]

>>36522056
Are you not just annoyed that you can't make collab timeloops to her fans anymore?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36517438
>>36518111
I wish more homobeggars would be honest that they're just as insecure as the unicorns like this instead of hide behind some nebulous notion of "toxic idol culture". Please make these takes on Twitter and other social media instead of ones about "le idol culture incels" or whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36521338
Holy mother of normalfaggotry. You need a different hobby.