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Carrying on

>> No.3619747

Are /vt/ posters allowed?

>> No.3619823

What has pekora done to you to be this high? Did she reject your sad cunt?

>> No.3619928

Kiara suffered more and she doesn't deserve it

>> No.3619983

>>3619475
How did Mashiro suffer as much as Gamebu and Aloe?

>> No.3620551

>>3619475
OtakMori on 30 90

>> No.3620611
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Holy shit I never thought I'd see this chart again, I was the chartanon who made the /a/ suffering threads in 2017 (ChartAnon !z5iW57HkOM I forgot the fucking password)
Keep it up anon, these charts are very fun to make, you'll probably have some trouble filling the top right part but don't give up
There are so many nijis you could probably fill this with them alone

>> No.3620613

>>3620551
>clippers

>> No.3620637

>>3620611
Hmm, /a/ should easily be able to fill a 2021 version

>> No.3620665
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Somewhere in the top left.

>> No.3620847

>>3619823
>Participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of a crime against peace
>Planning, initiating and waging wars of aggression and other crimes against peace
>Participating in war crimes
>Crimes against humanity

>> No.3620886

>>3619983
https://youtu.be/FGG2bkyBL04

>> No.3621069

>>3620611
Who is the girl in the top left? She dies doesn't she...

>> No.3621456

>>3621069
Yuuko Amamiya from Ef: A Tale of Memories
You should watch it! You might cry a little bit though

>> No.3621813

>>3619475
Move koopa further left and possibly more up she is terminally ill and has not really done anything to deserve it.

>> No.3622014

>>3619475
Why does Mamaloni deserve to suffer again?

>> No.3622090

>>3619475
Why does debiru deserve to suffer so much?

>> No.3622096

Can we add Kano, Nui Sociere and Manten Hanamaru, please?

>> No.3622158

>>3621813
What's she got?

>> No.3622192

>>3619475
Add Apex next to debiru

>> No.3622223

>>3619475
Suisei + Nene above Holostar members in suffering? This list is trash.

>> No.3622228

>>3619475
Why is Aruran so high up? He seems like he knows what he's doing from the little I've seen. Are the Stars there mostly because of numbers?

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Move her to the left this instant.

>> No.3622363

>>3619823
Be a nigger somewhere else

>> No.3622583

>>3622158
Benign tumor affecting her sight and her joints are fucked as well as just generally having poor health.

>> No.3622654

>>3619475
Mori should be way higher, and a bit more to the right

>> No.3622671

>>3619475
Met at 30:5

>> No.3622817

Someone add AlteraPoster next to his oshi (Reine). I think he's the one who promotes her channel and does the kneel thing with people who post her image. He's dedicated to her, but his knees have to suffer to express his love for Reine.

>> No.3622969

>>3619475
And put Yuuna at 95 suffering 25 deserved

>> No.3623125

>>3622328
I disagree with that.
Shes fine where she is.

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migoti..

>> No.3624165

>>3619475
/vt/ mascot should be in the background.

>> No.3624249

>>3619475
>>3620611
Niggerman should be where Kyubey is desu. OP MOVE NIGGERMAN.

>> No.3624475

>>3619475
How about Blue Oni in between Monoe and Taiwan? She always gets shit on by antis when the Ghoul connection is brought up.

>> No.3624657

Please be good about assigning numbers by avoiding hyperbole on placement. Seeings something like Sasaki at 80 Deserved seems good because she's a known bully (by /vt/), has physically abused Aqua on stream, and is a brat in general. Above that should start getting into some heinous stuff (since we're putting it above actual physical abuse.) What has HSKW or Gundou done above that to deserve a 90?
This obviously doesn't count non-serious placements, which maybe was the intent for their placements

>> No.3624694

Who is the guy at 50,30? I've seen him on some Nijisanji collab stuff but I don't think he's part of their org

>> No.3625340

>>3624694
Tenkai Tsukasa (formerly Bitou Kaiji), the leader of BANs.
He took part in Nijisanji's network program a couple of years back.

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0 / 0

>> No.3626861

The fucking peso coin lmao I missed the earlier thread today.
Thank you for updating anon. Do we have all of vshojo now? What about other western indies?

>> No.3626924

>>3619475
Do we know enough vtubers to fill this out?

>> No.3627054

>>3626924
Give it time, if this community is healthy enough.

>> No.3627187

>>3619475
Himari at 25 30 and Akatsuki right next to her.
>>3626861
Just throw them in the 80-100 deserve range.
>>3626924
Sure, the companies and indies I know are enough already. Not like I know where to place them though.

>> No.3629969

>>3622328
Move her to the right! That's what she gets for not streaming 1 whole week

>> No.3630059

>>3625718
The most perfect virtual idol to ever exist....

>> No.3630552
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relevant info

>> No.3631146
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>> No.3631400

>>3631146
OPchamma...

>> No.3631531

>>3619475
What did the peso do to deserve it? Is not our fault :(

>> No.3631558

I think Corpse is just trying to do something unique

>> No.3631674

>>3619475
Who is the red haired next to Ironmouse?

>> No.3631872

Doris deserves to be higher on the deserved scale. Say what you want about Artia being a two-faced bastard or Spade being a literal whore or Civia's Pro-CCP dogwhitles but at least none of them tried to scam and exploit their own fans.

>> No.3631979

>>3620665
Far to the right you mean

>> No.3632199
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Kyuotto at 35 S, 65 D

>> No.3632522

>>3620611
Okay, who's the lady between Diavolo and Anonymous?

>> No.3633316

>>3632522
That's mendoza from Garo Honoo no Kokuin

>> No.3633426

>>3631872
Agreed, she also backstabbed her coworkers when she left the company she was at before hololive.

>> No.3634130

>>3619475
>Mori in bottom left quadrant
Cuckold hands created this

>> No.3634296

Aqua's extremely sugary drink at 90s 90d. It would make a nice contrast to pikamee's oreo drink.

>> No.3634438
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>>3634296
This is the best picture I can get

>> No.3634611

>>3634438
kek, I need that smug Aqua, please.

>> No.3634642

Koop suffering a bit higher because she has a lifelong sickness

>> No.3635024

>>3619475
OP, can you add Marine 2077?
maybe around 50/75

>> No.3635622

>>3634438
I love the smug onion

>> No.3636135

hm. where does eilene go?

>> No.3636579

>>3631146
Why Botan's suffering is so low? You know she's so chill now for a reason, she just can't give a fuck after any more after all she's been through. Even if you don't take previous life into account, she still had a rough start thanks to Nene doxxing her. So she should be at least on 20 or 50.
Kuzuha had a lot of scandals around him, but he just don't care. Still at least 10 suffering. But he deserved it more than 30, that's for sure.
Noel's suffering should be same as Kanata's, as she has the same health condition.
Camomi didn't deserve any suffering, she must be at -100.
Roa and Meiro were better placed before, they both deserved what they got.
Sasaki suffered way more than 40.

>> No.3636656

>>3636579
>Why Botan's suffering is so low?
that's all speculation, you can't just assert someone has been through hell because of their chill demeanor.

>> No.3636782

>>3631146
The fact that we have to add games to this chart really shows that it needs to be smaller.
Just because there are thousands of vtubers out there, doesn't mean there are enough people who know where to put them.

>> No.3636883

>>3619475
I see this image was made my a dad. BEATANI LOVE

>> No.3636888

>>3636579
>she still had a rough start thanks to Nene doxxing her
archive reps gave me nothing. Elaborate?

>> No.3637164

Where would Fuzuki Miki go?

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deserve 5 suffering 75

>> No.3637493

>>3636888
Nene doxxed all her gen, not just Aloe. I presume you know what happened with her. Besides Aloe yab, Botan also were mocked for her age and looks on Twitter. She even asked to stop posting her face on her roommate account. Videos of her face were uploaded on YouTube and algorithm™ recommended them to everyone. So she indirectly was caught in the biggest scandal to date, had her roommate discovered and people knew she is not young and pretty right from the start, so many didn't even give her a chance.
It was a pretty rough start and it's all Nene's fault.
>>3636656
There is something that is known about her previous life, but this out of scope of vtubing. Still not 5 suffering by any means.

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x30 y10
and move Kanae one space to the right

>> No.3638022

>>3636782
>it needs to be smaller.
No, it means that indie vTubers need to be looked at, even for just a little

>> No.3638091

>>3622654
>>3634130
her life has been relatively free of not self-induced suffering and a lady spilling her drink on her is hardly suffering
Maybe bullying in school is the biggest factor but currently she has a pretty good placement

>> No.3638285

What did the koala do besides be evil in lore

>> No.3638323

Utako did nothing wrong,she just has a bad case of porn addiction

>> No.3638396

>>3631146
Haneru maybe left of Artia
>Mom is a former yankee who has gone through 8 men and 6 marriages as Haneru watched, which sounds rough even is she seems to shrug it off. https://youtu.be/Ab3XRKUScOs
Not sure about the deserve part but she can certainly fight dirty and land low blows https://youtu.be/-8qmfeYwnkc

>> No.3639330

>>3636579
>Roa and Meiro were better placed before, they both deserved what they got.
Stop believing rrats. Roa could be moved even more to the left and Meiro didn't suffer enough.

>> No.3639787

>>3631146
I think Roberu and Shien would fit somewhere between Akkun and Uzuki Kou in the low suffering, somewhat deserved area.
Slight misfortune seems to always follow Shien around, but most of it happens because he's a dumbass.
Roberu is bullied by other vtubers and nobody ever takes him seriously, but he's also a harem protagonist so he deserves at least a bit of suffering.

>> No.3639918

>>3619747
>>3622817
Seconding adding posters from here

>> No.3640112
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>>3620611
Great to see you here based chartanon, thanks for the heads-up. The kingside will cause some trouble for sure. I regret not choosing a smaller (15x15?) format for this project, there's actually not enough nijis to fill the chart out yet (but more than enough indies).

>>3631400
literally not me

Unresolved/half-resolved suggestions:
>>3637164
>>3636135
>>3635024 (elaborate)
>>3624657
>>3622096
>>3627187 (shouldn't Melody be a little more to the left?)
>>3630552 (anchoring this one for the remaining homos)

Reminder to be as precise as you can with the suggestions and attach a square-sized representative image if possible.

>> No.3640210

>>3631674
For questions like this, you can always check the previous threads:
>>3580271
>>3569496

>> No.3640225

>>3630552
>>3640112
I'd take the Holostar image with a grain of salt if I were you.

>> No.3640401

>>3640112
Marine from the future, the old Marine. she suffered enough
https://youtu.be/R9ftpQHPwGI

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>>3640112
Thank you OP, if you're looking for AlteraPoster image, he always post this one.

>> No.3640977

>>3619475
MONOE DESERVED NOTHING. FUCK GYARI

>> No.3641381

>>3640112
If you're using companies, I think Brave Group/Unlimited, Upd8 and Entum could go top right. Ichikara maybe right above Cover.

In Nijisanji Korea there was Moarin, who was one of the main perpetrators of a major bullying scandal while in school (apparently one of the victims needed extensive surgery) and her adult life seemed to consist of getting cancelled the moment people doxxed her and realized who she is. But seems she kept up bullying and manipulating people all the while through and graduated before Nijisanji KR could fire her for workplace bullying.

Wasn't Shindo Raito the guy who got fired after his debut stream, because he apparently joined Nijisanji only to sexually harass and doxx the girls? Both could go to top right.

>>3640225
Yeah, I remember seeing something about Aruran's and Roberu's hoboism caused by their crippling gacha/gambling addiction. I think Astel was also noted as someone with a gambling probem. Doesn't necessarily lessen their suffering, but if it really was self-caused, then they certainly deserved it to an extent.

>> No.3641551

>>3639330
take your meds

>> No.3641751

I think graduated chuubas should be in grayscale for better differentiation.
Also marks could be added for chuubas with health-related suffering.

>> No.3641806

>>3641751
Good idea

>> No.3642009

>>3640225
I would rank Miyabi higher. He got 20x more dislikes than live viewers for his debut and his gen was pretty much abandoned by Cover for a year until Holocomi. He is also currently one of the least popular and he cannot play his favorite game, FFXIV, on stream. And then there's this meal tweet from a while ago.
https://twitter.com/miyabihanasaki/status/1328234450015068160

>> No.3642105

>>3619475
Beatani at dead center, kek

>> No.3642244

>>3619475
Ina should be at least 20/50

>> No.3642310

>>3642244
why? how did she suffer that much except for being a little introverted and having a little strict parents?

>> No.3642343

>>3642105
Beatani should be way higher on both scales. Attempting to cuck your fans only for them to cuck you is top right territory.

>> No.3642881

>>3640112
I don't think Joe has suffered that much, unless there's something I've missed. Maybe move him below Fubuki?
Or you could even shift around the bottom left to make room for him there. Gorilla to 5,5 and Joe above him, maybe.
>>3641381
I wouldn't say Raito belongs anywhere near the top. I don't think he cared enough about vtubing in the first place, so getting fired wasn't a big deal for him. He should be on the right for sure, though.
>>3642009
I think he's fine just where he is. Moving him up would make him overlap with someone else and I have no idea where to move some of the ones above him. Maybe Aruran could be moved down and a bit to the right?

>> No.3644385

>>3642244
Ina didn't suffer at all

>> No.3644412

>>3619475
As mentioned in a past thread, I think Fubuki should be more higher up. She's talked about being pressured and having stress around the time of Holofes 1, constantly gets negative attention as a result of collabing with Homos (and other incidents, such as Towa's yab and BiliBili), and is a workaholic.

>> No.3645127

Am I the only one who thinks takos deserve to suffer more than that?

>> No.3645568

>>3626924
That chart has shit on it that isn't even VTuber related. It's supposed to be a "/vt/" chart instead, but there's also shit on it that isn't even /vt/ related.

>> No.3645864

>>3645568
it's all /vt/ related, you just have to lurk moar

>> No.3645928

>>3645864
No. Most of it is /vt/ related, but there are non-/vt/ squares that have nothing to do with VTubers or this board, and they are instead dead forced off-topic trolling from crossboarders.

>> No.3646038

>>3645928
which ones?
>inb4 (90,15)

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>>3640112
Doompost Rin next to Apex please

>> No.3646088

>>3646038
>inb4 (100,15)*

>> No.3646132

>>3646038
>>3646088
Prefacing your post with
>inb4
Doesn't magically preclude them from serving my point by the way.

>> No.3646187

>>3646132
it's not a preface if it's at the end of the post+I was wondering if there are other cases or just the notorious orange

>> No.3646294

>>3646187
If it's a preliminary to some sort of extension built of that then it would be, you should lurk moar yourself and then figure out whether or not you're perceiving it as a chart for anything that's been posted on /vt/ at some point; or something that's also relevant to it.

>> No.3646493

"AO is not a part of /vt/" is a part of /vt/

>> No.3646553

How the fuck is Mel who was stalked and sexually harrassed by her own manager for over a year only at 70 suffering?

>> No.3646755

>>3646493
Holy shit, you're right.

>> No.3646793

>>3646553
I would put her above Noraneko, yeah.

>> No.3646846

Real question but why does Iofi deserve to suffer? I don't watch her so I have 0 idea why

>> No.3646930

>>3646846
She likes it

>> No.3647005

Why is Amelia so high up there? I know she was kind of poor but on Kanata's level of suffering? Really?

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>> No.3647060

>>3647005
I don't watch much Ame but from what I understand Ame kind of grew up as trailer trash, and not just any trailer trash but American trailer trash where life dumped an invalid relative on her to take care of with no help, so she shared a lot of the same childhood shit from being poor that Kanata did.

>> No.3647440

>>3647005
>father left the household apparently very early in her life considering she has next to no stories about him
>her brother accidentally burned down their house which left the whole family homeless for a time
>mother had a lot of different partners, one that came to live with them was a pedophile and a pervert, and forcibly molested her feet which she admits left her with long lasting psychological scars
>bullied in school for being poor and weird
>moved around a lot as a kid and never formed lasting relations
>mom eventually got a job on a cruise ship which meant she essentially dumped her children on Auntie Watson and Grandma Watson and they rarely saw her
>her bf broke up with her while she was grieving over the death of Grandma Watson, who she visited in the hospital every day while she was hospitalized

>> No.3647799

>>3619475
new robosa here, how is roboco suffering? I'm curious.

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>>3647044
Ahoge left of Mint. Having rice instead of snacks in her wishlist indicates poverty

>> No.3648513

>>3647044
move Kiara one or two spots to the left, the current criticism and hate have all more or less a valid core but the
J*r*a*h doxx and her getting fired are definitively undeserved

>> No.3648550

>>3619475
Pikamee should be higher on the "suffering" scale

>> No.3648765

I think the sheep is at the right place. And Watamelons are also at the right place.

>> No.3649417

Tirol on top left.
Hashiba on top left.
Akane close to top right and center.
Nanashi on bottom right.

>> No.3649923

>>3649417
does Nanashi have an icon or avatar or something? he has the default pfp on pixiv

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Yua: SUFFERED 100
DESERVED 0

Gumi: SUFFERED 100
DESERVED 0

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>>3649923

>> No.3650230

>>3621813
>>3622583
You're confusing Koopa with Shimada Tiger.
>>3622158
Koopa has hypermobile EDS, along with a laundry list of other health conditions like asthma and arthritis, and she mentioned losing a close family member to a similar condition. She talks about her health at length here:
https://youtu.be/2CrUWDLroRY?t=5027
TL;DR Koopa should definitely be way higher on this chart.

>> No.3650503

>>3622583
That’s Shimada Tiger but she’s also not higher due to being a literal astronaut with infinite money

>> No.3653732

>the argentine peso
why must we suffer

>> No.3653862

>>3647044
>Lumi deserves to suffer less than Reine and Ina
how? how? how?

>> No.3653945

>>3640112
Why did you remove Aloe?

>> No.3653980

>>3619475
oh god isnt the red haired girl beside ironmouse got domestically abused on stream? I forgot her name but someone on /a/ told her story before

>> No.3654009

>>3631979
this

>> No.3654029

How is Koopa only a 40? She's got a myriad of diseases and is constantly breaking her body.

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>>3653945
she's still there I promise, look closer

>> No.3654818

>>3647044
Ina needs a few spots further up and to the right.
She is a hikkiNEET gacha and FF14 addict.
That's deserved levels of suffering right there.

>> No.3654864

>>3619475
>super bunny man
why?

>> No.3654878

>>3654818
it's not suffering if she enjoys it

>> No.3654965

>>3619475
Grouping entire gens/branches together (like NijiIN for example) reeks of not knowing nothing about the individuals and just guessing

>> No.3655082

>>3653980
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Zettai_Tenshi_Kurumi-chan
>Shortly afterwards, kkk tweets that Kurumi will cease her activities due to family reasons, insults her, claiming she had neglected her family, and demands that her fans should verbally abuse her should she ever return.
Man, what the hell..

>> No.3655254

>>3654965
It was just a heuristic, everyone is still moving around
If you're an expert on NijiIN then please enlighten us where each of the members should be

>> No.3655783

>>3619475
gosling needs to be top right

>> No.3656420

>>3648765
Why is sheep so high? Honest question. I know she helps out her mom and grandma or something, but I don't know much about her story.

>> No.3656451

>>3619475
>Taiwan and coco’s spot
Why are you a chink, OP

>> No.3656527

>>3654965
NijiIN is in the perfect spot(I’d argue vihaan suffered the most though)
t. Saviorfag

>> No.3656534

>>3656451
glowies and redditors gtfo

>> No.3656668 [DELETED] 

>>3655783
true

>> No.3656706

>>3656668
b-but he cares about his oshi and does no harm

>> No.3656743

>>3656451
CCP is already in the top right corner, coco still hits 50 deserved because reddit

also, add pierce brosnan/architectposter to lower middle

>> No.3656839

>>3619475
who's the bitch at 25-100

>> No.3656875

>>3620665
I actually had to stop watching her because it made me feel like a shitty person.

>> No.3656900

>>3656839
Froot, cheated on husband, scammed /k/

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Last update from me today, good naito

>> No.3657037

>>3656900
>scammed /k/
how?

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>>3620611
>Kohaku
>(90, 70)
Change that to (5, 65) right now.

>> No.3657372

>>3631872
>Pro-CCP dogwhistle
It wasn't a dogwhistle. She just got caught in the crossfire. Out of all of them, she may have been the most disappointed by the resulting split.

>> No.3657386

Delta needs to be one to three spaces right

>> No.3657524

>>3620611
Cheers dude, I was the guy who got ichise, Killy, and Sanetoshi from Penguindrum added in. Though Sanetoshi got moved a fuckton from my first suggestion

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>>3647044
>Sio and Gundou
>95 and 100, respectively
Roboco, call off your dogs.

>> No.3657646

I think Love-chan, Aipii, and Chinkzuna AI need places on this too.

>> No.3657702

>>3657037
had people buy patches from her, but she never actually sent them out to said buyers.

>> No.3657777

Put Shindo Raito (Niji sekuhara dude) on right side somewhere. Maybe where 4chan vtuber is and shift her left?

>> No.3657801

>>3657777
Oh wait he's already in, disregard

>> No.3657808
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3657808

>>3619475
>Kiara deserved as much as Artia and fucking Woohoolad

>> No.3657816
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3657816

>>3619475
where's Eilene? She was pretty much the first baacharu that got fucked over by Youtube and her parent company (Square Enix) partly because of his own retardation

>> No.3657862

Does this anon deserves a space there?
>Sends red SC to congratulate oshi for a milestone
>But sends it way too early (waiting room)
>Oshi doesn't get through the SCs earlier to the stream

>> No.3657869

How about a placement for /jp/? Or maybe a Touhou rep

>> No.3657934

>>3637276
fuck...

>> No.3657961

>>3619475
how is narukami only 5 more deserved than gura?

>> No.3658000

>>3657961
He's a misunderstood hero

>> No.3658142
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3658142

>>3620611
That takes me back, I actually suggested a few characters there. So many more to add now.

>> No.3658168

>>3637276
>>3657934
who is this smol thing and why has it suffered so much?

>> No.3658252

>>3657961
yea he should be on 50/45, gura is way too low

>> No.3658286

>>3657961
Because this is a Holofag board.

>> No.3658384
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3658384

>>3658168
>got shilled on /hlgg/
>got 300 EOPs watching her at one point
>she got euphoric about it
>had a blooming community around her
>/vyt/fags told yuki-min to fuck off
>EOP audience starts to dissipate
>she made a 12 hour sub fishing stream with a goal that I already forgot
>unsurprisingly, she didnt meet the sub goal and cried at the tail end of the stream
>suddenly announcing a hiatus because some retard jap was apparently stalking her (note that her EOP audience pretty much subsided before this even happened)
>she apparently has some auto-immunodeficiency disease and needs to be in dialysis in a hospital from time to time
>she's stuck at 40 viewers on her stream, 30 of which are prolly EOPs who are too shy or doesnt know any lick of Japanese
being topsis is suffering

>> No.3658404
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3658404

>>3658168
>small
>he doesnt know
that being said long story short
>chuuba with average of 12 or 13 viewers who just plays guitar for fun with cheapo avatar inbetween college courses and work
>guy tries shilling her in the old vtuber general on /jp/ around October
>gets told to fuck off
>he comes to /hlgg/ during dead hours while goslings still cried about ame every second she wasnt streaming
>tells them to stfu and watch his oshi
>anons have nothing to do so click
>her views go from 12 to 250
>she doesnt know how to react, starts crying
>extremely happy, pretty cute, can actually speak some english so she can interact with the new EOP viewers
>new viewers stick around and she averages 200 viewers per stream for about 2 weeks
>tries to open supachats, her boss at work tells her no (weird laws in japan)
>eventually gets a jap IRL stalker, has to stop streaming
>all interest in her completely dissipates
>after a month away shes back to 10 to 15 viewers a stream

>> No.3658482

>>3658384
>>3658404
Jesas that legitimately fucking blows, any links to her YT and whatnot, as i might check this out in a bit.

>> No.3658513

Can Holo Bass get on the chart?

>> No.3658544

>>3658482
I just noticed that she's starting to rebrand herself as an ASMR channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8LJJ1HOq_z8Uaycot6L_Xw

>> No.3658833

>>3658482
He didn't mention that she regularly works overtime, leaving office second to last, plus she's taking courses and studying 3 hours a day, she's renting and can't play guitar or make noise at home or she'll be evicted, so for guitar streams she has to go to some karaoke or something. Last month she had to go to hospital for an IV every day, she said it was pretty painful, and she had to take a laptop with her to do her work in hospital. With all that shit, she is still very and energetic on streams.

>> No.3660239
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3660239

>>3656975
X25 Y70
>Guilty of sameface syndrome
>Guilty of making Pristine cunny vtubers
>Her most famous design was spoiled by the most infamous rigger
>The rest of her daughters can't replicate the success of the oldest one

>> No.3660456

>>3657816
yeah I suggested eilene earlier, too. maybe near the center on the suffering scale and middle-low on the deserving? at a point her content got super wild and may have kinda asked for it.
then it turned into her churning out chinky mobile game ads
think there are spots for the rest of the family, like yomemi/moemi or natsume moe? etra might be a weird one if her VA really is reused from cocoa
shit, we really need comdost too, don't we

>> No.3660731

is Luna on this? I'd put her at 25,15? she seems content after ending her decent stint as a vtuber but did dip pretty unceremoniously
I've done like no research into her whatsoever beyond her hitting it big with p-maru though

>> No.3660827

>>3660456
Eilene also let her own channel to be used by a completely different subsidiary (Mirai Akari project) that, surprise surprise, later took over. (s)he suffered too much but (s)he kinda deserves it because of her (male) little decisions like this

>> No.3660881

>>3657808
Yeah I agree, she should just be beside the other orange woman

>> No.3660886

>>3646078
Rin....

>> No.3660928

>>3658384
>>3658404
>babies first indie

>>3660731
Invent some rrat about her being an alcoholic who couldn't cope with the pressure and put her at 100 suffering.

>> No.3660993

I would put Peanuts next to debi
he deserves to suffer more

>> No.3661017

>>3660827
right, all the old videos are kaput, aren't they. seems like either no one has backups to reupload or simply were denied permission after trying it.
would this put akari herself higher on the deserves scale?

>> No.3661097

>>3660827
40, 70 maybe?

>> No.3661123

>>3660993
Calm down Narukasu

>> No.3661167

>>3639918
Let's see, it needs -
>damascus
>ayameposter
>sharkmeido
>SEAmonkey
>holofightz guy
>tako OC poster

>> No.3661202

Mel and Subaru ought to swap places IMO.

>> No.3661207

>>3661097
40 is too low. Maybe 60 since he definitely faded into obscurity and everyone he worked with basically left him anyway iunno what's his relation with Loserbait with. My personal narrative is that they're the same guy but who knows.

>> No.3661245

>>3619475
Put Kaoru next to Korone. He did not deserve to go like this.

>> No.3661301

>>3661123
Peanuts scares me

>> No.3661323

huke needs to be somewhere in the bottom middle, he's a bit of a hack

>> No.3661354

>>3661207
so do you mean 60 suffering?
I was doing deserve=40, suffer=70, but actually 60 suffering would make more sense, there could be worse fates

>> No.3661383

>>3661323
huke did nothing wrong
it was kiara that ruined her own design

>> No.3661430

>>3661354
>so do you mean 60 suffering?
yeah I'm fine with this

>> No.3661551

>>3661430
>>3661354
wait no I stand corrected. I agree with the 70 = suffering but I think he deserved some of the things that befallen to him so maybe 55 = deserve

>> No.3661616

>>3660456
moe arguably pioneered western vtubers and makes effortful video content (which she has to edit herself) but has pretty much no views to show for it.
15 (since there aren't any spaces lower) deserve, 50 suffering? she seems to be surviving fine off streams honestly
I'd feel better with 40 suffer, but those slots are taken

>> No.3661621

>>3658404
>goslings still cried about ame every second she wasn't streaming
You mean spamming gosling images and then shitting up the thread with shitty ASCII spam after they hit the image limit?

>> No.3661777
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3661777

>>3661551
>>3656975
cooool. for OP's reference, Eilene @ suffering: 70, deserve: 55

>> No.3661809
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3661809

>>3661616
pic in case this placement is fine with people

>> No.3662029

>>3660239
>>The rest of her daughters can't replicate the success of the oldest one
>oldest
But Kana is the oldest of the daughters, not Gura.

>> No.3662134

>>3619475
Actually why is Pekora there? She hasn't really done anything bad and the most she's suffered was crying for her canceled projects and when the chinks spammed her twitter tags with rabbit gore

>> No.3662189

>>3662134
It's a joke entry.

>> No.3662220

>>3622363
peepee poopoo more pissbaby

>> No.3662224
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3662224

>>3662134
It's supposed to be about how she acts as a character. There's some serious and not so serious placements. It's written in the fucking image of the OP. Learn to read.

>> No.3662329

>>3662224
why is prison pekora so hot, she reminds me of the Prison ALs.

>> No.3662388
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3662388

>>3662220
I thought we ran you niggers off the internet. You still think pissbaby is a good insult after all these years? We're making new breakthroughs you nigger worshiping cultist.

>> No.3662432

>>3662388
Easy on the slurs bro

>> No.3662435

>>3662432
Kike

>> No.3662474 [DELETED] 

>>3662435
Sorry man I warned you, I will have to report this

>> No.3662945

>>3630552
Where do I find my own social outcast like aqua so I can become her Shion

>> No.3663153

>>3647044
Rin doesn't deserve this. Sure, she's a little addicted to Apex, but to suffer to that extent is too much. Lower her to 30.

>> No.3663301

>uto deserved to suffer 85
nani

>> No.3663400

>>3663301
You know very well what she did

>> No.3663505

>>3663400
well no

>> No.3663564

>>3620611
How is getting your soul fused with a dog and then being splattered across the wall before the age of seven not 100 suffering?

>> No.3663676

>>3663564
that suffering was relatively brief compared to the things above it

>> No.3663693

>>3663564
there's probably lots of girls that want to get rawdogged by their father

>> No.3663841
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3663841

>>3619475
25, 65
I'm still sad that they got sold for chinese scraps and literally have ONE MORE VIDEO that cannot be seen due to rights issues from a chinese backroom

>> No.3665372

>>3658286
He still gossip about Holo a lot though. Him defending Miko and Towa is just backpedaling since he help spread the rumor about them. He also falsely accused Noel of streaming a Disney movie when that was Bilibili fault, spread baseless rumor about Kaoru, and him shitting on Aloe immediately after her graduation give the impression that he just afraid of Holo management.

>> No.3665821

>>3663564
because you need to watch more Anime

>> No.3665888
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3665888

Aloe should be in between gosling and chammers.

>> No.3667093

>>3663564
>who is mitty

>> No.3669258

>>3660993
He doesn't. Peanuts is cool.
His only sin is wanting to be popular.

>> No.3669370
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3669370

>>3656975
since architect is here, let's put ringo to its right

>> No.3670837

>>3668184
Nominating for:

55 S
80 D

If not on the chart already

>> No.3670863

>>3662388
cope, seethe, dilate, and filtered!

>> No.3670987

>>3656420
Dad also walked out on the family and said he would sooner put Watame in an orphanage than raise her

>> No.3671097
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3671097

We have pre-hope-crushed Gosling, where does shattered Gosling go? (Oshi graduating or a big break)

>> No.3674025

>>3663564
She was a dog for literally 1 day, everyone in the 90/95/100 rows suffered way more than her. Most characters on 100S suffered centuries or are trapped suffering forever

>> No.3674066

>>3665888
Anon, I....

>> No.3674120

>>3674025
>She was a dog for literally 1 day
I think soul-fusing is a bit more permanent than that.

>> No.3674137

Sandbag should be in the negative region of the deserve axis. Or at plus infinity.

>> No.3674146

>>3663564
I don't get it. How being a dog is suffering? And having a doggo imouto who calls you onii-chan seriously sounds fun. A dog is fine too.
Never understood why she had to be "mercy" killed when she's just became a perfect pet.

>> No.3674170

>>3674137
She didn't deserve it because she likes it?

>> No.3674183

>>3674146
Anon...

>> No.3674495

>>3674170
If she'd be willing to pay to receive punishment, she shouldn't deserve to receive it for free.

>> No.3676538

>>3656975
from hololive we're still missing Moona, Mio, AZKi and some of the holostars
from nijisanji i have no idea because there is too many of them and I don't know if I made my list correct

>> No.3676930
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3676930

>>3676538
>nijisanji
oh yeah Niji's Shiba got shat on by real life hard lately >>3672389
>>3656975
Add Shiba below Kanata onegai

>> No.3677691

>>3676538
also I forgot that we're missing Choco too

>> No.3677995

>>3656975
Cover and Ichikara belong at least on the same level of deserving as Entum and maybe a level to the left. Whatever else they may be, at least they seem to provide some kind of mental health assistance to their talents, unlike Entum. My gut says 774 should probably go a couple of levels above Ichikara, but I remember there being all kinds of narratives about them that I never bothered to either believe nor disbelieve, because I don't really watch anyone from there.

Also, neither the chuubas nor Argentinians did anything to deserve ARS beyond pandering and being SOPs, so it should go to 100 suffering, 80 deserving. In its current spot, EOPs could go instead.

I think some of the Hololive girls on top left might be a bit too high compared to the others. I'm sure they have struggled, but their struggles have also been rewarded unlike most of those indies and Nijis below them. Of course, health is something no amount of success can patch up, and I'm not familiar with all of their issues. I do think that Kanata and Mel are pretty fine where they are. Getting a chance to finally live your dreams only for you health to fail and cripple your potential and getting stalked and harrassed by your own manager through whom all your messages to the higher-ups go are special kinds of suffering.

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3678149

>>3676538
>>3677691
Flare confirmed to be the most forgettable holo damn...

>> No.3678564

>>3678149
Flare is ok, Ayame or/and Choco are the most forgettable.

>> No.3678714

>>3619475
>Gura on 55
kek

>> No.3679652

What did Utako do to have such a high deserving score?

>> No.3679660
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3679660

I did some shuffling around

Unresolved:
>>3637164
>>3622096
>>3657646
>>3657862
>>3657869
>>3658513
>>3660731
>>3661167
- akari
- huke
- remaining holos and vshojos

Reminder:
>>3624657

>> No.3679745

>>3679660
/jp/ should probably go next to Kiara or even below Roa

>> No.3679781 [SPOILER] 
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3679781

>>3679660
I guess >>3657862 could go 75/15 or 90/20. Also, might be this poster, based on the small reps I did.

>> No.3680422

>>3679660
huke maybe 35 deserving, 60 suffering. He hast to deal with Kiara's design choices even though he is a well known designer on his own. I pity the guy

>> No.3680651

>>3680422
He also got booted from the MC server

>> No.3680679

>>3679660
Apex deserves 100 and you know it

>> No.3680689

>>3656975
Where would one put Reid? Nose is easier and met's already set but I have no idea where to post Reid

>> No.3680793

>>3619475
>>3679660

Artemis should be at about 60-70 suffering and 35-45 at the deserves it scale, as she honestly doesn't deserve it that much all things considered.

>> No.3680898

>>3680793
It's according to /vt/, so Artemis is a 100.

>> No.3680918

>>3680898
/vt/ is wrong and deserves to suffer at 100.

>> No.3681085

>>3620665
Carol is more high middle, clearly unstable, but did not deserve Pepe le Pew and Saraba da tossing her around on top of whatever the fuck her home life was.

>> No.3681379

Mizuryu Kei deserves to be top right

>> No.3681433

>>3680679
not wrong..

>> No.3681502

I never understood the horizontal scale. Is it "How much they deserve their suffering" or "How much they should be suffering"?

>> No.3681557

>>3681502
the second one

>> No.3681584

>>3681502
Same thing, but "deserve" is mostly for what have they done, should they keep the suffering or stop it to help them.

>> No.3681754

Hiroshimoot and Jannie's some were in the top right half?

>> No.3682648

>>3634296
Does pikamee actually drink that oreo crap?

>> No.3682696
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3682696

>>3679660
Since things seem to be going well with Sukoya >>3681853
put her below Shien

>> No.3683877
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>> No.3685402

>>3674146
Based

>> No.3685427

>>3619475
Korone had a miscarriage. Her suffering is very high.

>> No.3685580

>>3679652
do your fucking reps

>>3624657
you too faggot

>> No.3686381

>>3678564
>Ayame
>streams once every full moon and still has legions of people watching and throwing money at her every time
She's the antithesis of forgettable.

>> No.3686639
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3686639

You will never learn Japanese girl for high deserving to suffer and low suffering, because she inflicts suffering onto others.

>> No.3686703

Also a hearty kek for Uohhhhhhhhh on deserve 20, suffer 40.

>> No.3686787
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3686787

>>3683877
Ban Hada at moderate suffering and very little deserved, due to being an English speaker yet getting mogged by Nijisanji EN when they haven’t even debuted ;(

>> No.3686808

>>3679652
She stole my heart

>> No.3686989

>>3679652
She likes little boys...a lot...I mean A LOT. Enough to watch them do stuff to each other too.

>> No.3687078

>>3683877
Move Noel next to Mel, she hasn't really done anything wrong.

>> No.3687309

>>3687078
>noel hasn’t done anything wrong
>the queen of menheras
>the unironic brocon who sperged out when he got married
Reps

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3687403

>>3683877
can you change eilene's image with this? It's funnier and more iconic. Other than that, the list's looking pretty good

>> No.3687609
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>> No.3687846
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3687846

>>3687609
>Gundou at 100
Fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you

>> No.3688143

>>3687846
that wasn't the edit I made

>> No.3688151

>>3687609
Miko ditched all her old collab partners that she used to leach off when she got popular she should at least be at 90.

>> No.3688309

>>3687309
>still spreading the debunked brother narrative
Kill yourself.

>> No.3688336

>>3688151
Mikochi at 90 deserved?
also
>responding to the orangeposter

>> No.3688425

>>3688143
Fix it...

>> No.3688444

>>3688336
Yes, she completely ditched the people who helped her out when she was struggling. She never collabed with them again once she became successful she should be at 90 suffering deserved.

>> No.3688494

>>3687846
She's there for a good reason anon

>> No.3688515

>>3688336
Even if what >>3688151 said is true, as is can very well be Cover doing Cover things and not allowing her to collab with them, 90 is still too much IMO.

>> No.3688529

>>3688494
Catfishing for fun?

>> No.3688697

>>3688515
Its only vshojo who are banned, Aqua is still allowed to collab with fucking Mea and Niji collabs happen all the time. Towa even invited someone from re:Act to her concert.
Miko is a bad person who betrayed her old friends. Also she doesn't collab with less popular Holos that she used to collab with a lot.

>> No.3688824

>>3687609
Some ideas for Vshojo:
>Veibae
Between 20 and 40 suffering, 60 and 80 for deserved.
>Melody
Between 15 and 25 suffering, 30 and 60 deserved.
>Silvervale
5 suffering, between 25 and 45 deserved.
>Zentreya
Bring up on the suffering scale. Has grown up being abused by her mother and when her mom expressed regret about it she got some kind of infection and died two years later.

>> No.3689127

>>3688444
Can you post any evidence? I have a hard time believing Mikochi would do something like that.

>> No.3689172

>>3688697
Just because you want to think that she betrayed someone doesn't make it true. Betraying someone involves more than just making a collab and then not collabing again. And were the ones she collabed with really "friends"? One can only have so many friends, the rest are colleagues. Also, it's not like someone she collabed with is entitled to deserve more collabs from her. They had a collab and finished it, end of story.

So still, maybe she doesn't want to collab with them again after becoming famous. It's a bitch move, but doesn't deserve a 90 on the scale. I'd say 60 at max, and only if it's true.

>> No.3689319

>>3689127
A lot of the outside collabs were holocausted but if you want evidence of her abandoning her fellow Holos, when was the last time she collabed with Choco? When Choco was popular they used to collab all the time.

>> No.3689752

>>3689319
That's hardly convincing. I'm sure you can mention at least a couple of names outside Hololive.
Unless you're just making shit up, of course.

>> No.3689890

>>3665372
>baseless rumor about Kaoru
oh little of you /vt/ newfag knew lol

>> No.3690103

>>3687609

Capcom next to Entum for almost getting Mio channel killed.

Nintendo somewhere near Mori or Hinata for being slow with permissions.

>> No.3691945

Where's Ankimo on the chart?

>>3691604

>> No.3692013

>>3691945
Maybe mild suffered/low deserved?

>> No.3692150

>>3688824
>her

>> No.3692247

might I suggest adding r/hololive (somewhere in the middle-bottom left)
r/okbuddyhololive (middle)
And r/virtualyoutubers (below Shion)
Good work OP even if there are some placements I’m salty about

>> No.3692310

>>3680793
quit posting shartemis

>> No.3692338

Is Idolbu there already? I see Sio at top right so it would fit to see the coworkers she fucked over on there

>> No.3692438

>>3687609
>Akane 70, 70
Ok Nijisanji. Fill me in. I kind of like her.

>> No.3692594

>>3692438
Knowing the hatred this chart expresses towards Reddit (see: coco), it’s probably because she’s the most active in Nijisanji Reddit
But I don’t keep up with Niji rrats so who knows

>> No.3692619

There any clippers already? I think notorious faggots like lyger or birdkun deserve spots lower right

>> No.3695835

>>3692619
Hey, lyger might be an elitist but for a good reason. He doesn't deserve being close to birdkun

>> No.3696554

>>3680918
Shut up reddit nigger. Make your own chart, but not here. Make it in your shithole reddit where you reddit niggers belong.

>> No.3699721

>>3656900
>husband
never watching Froot ever again

>> No.3702762

>>3683877
Why is a nigger on 5, 5?

>> No.3703052
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3703052

>>3702762
You're not funny.

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