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34308328 No.34308328 [Reply] [Original]

they went from the biggest to the weakest Hololive generation in only two years

>> No.34308557
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34308557

Myth's fate was sealed here

>> No.34308625

>>34308328
Kiara is still doing fine. Gura and Ina are okay, although they're not as strong as when they started. Ame hasn't changed. Calli has been on a downward spiral since day 1

Overall, they're gonna make it

>> No.34308667

In your schizo dreams. Council, ID1~2, and 2/3rds of ID3 would disagree.

>> No.34308723

>>34308328
I don't think you posted the right picture and council was never the biggest

>> No.34308735

>>34308328
What if i told you they were all weak since the start? Only reason people liked them was because they were new players on a untapped market.

>> No.34309271

>>34308328
Yea i missed the entire period when a lot of jp became so big mogged the myth numbers

What exactly went wrong with myth bros? i came back to holo after the council debut after busy with irl for a half year

>> No.34309626

>>34309271
Nothing "went wrong" they just held a monopoly on the industry that they no longer hold. In 2020 they were the EN market. Now they are just another part of the market.

>> No.34310439

>>34308328
>gura's dino plushie obliterated Hololive merch sale records
>weakest
Ok retard

>> No.34310526

>>34310439
Learn to read. They are weak as a group or gen.
Gura is strong by herself. She's the top of the vtubing world

>> No.34310602

Lazy bitches can't stream and got mogged. It's a tale as old as Youtube.

>> No.34310802

Holo EN was NEVER good

>> No.34311137

>>34308328
They debuted during covid prime. People were inside the internet 24/7. The numbers they have now are more realistic.
And they are doing fine

>> No.34311456

>>34308328
Weakest gen is either EN2 or ID2.

>> No.34311881

>>34308625
Mori was not shit from the start
i still remember her really good ttrpg gming
she also synergized well with Kiara, though that ship only helped Mori

it started to changed here >>34308557
as usual, the first post was also the best post

>> No.34312390

>>34308328
That doesn't look like a image of holoX.

>> No.34312608

>>34308735
This.

That's why council is superior. They took note of all the flaws of myth and improved upon them.

>> No.34313652

>>34310439
That’s the thing GURA is has always been a separate entity from myth. The core and the wagon they all ride on. Even now she’s going through her laziest cycle and EN is suffering for it but she remains unaffected. Majority of people who watch her likely don’t even know she’s part of a generation honestly.

>> No.34317650

>>34308328
do you have any evidence that this is the case apart from unicorn /vt/ wishful thinking?

>> No.34317721

indogs projecting their failed branch

>> No.34317989

>>34312608
The only thing Council improved about Myth was interactions and friendship. They literally wrecked and exposed the lack of unity between Myth members.
Gura jumps ship to Council and SNOT, Mori only streams with IRyS and Bae, Amelia and Mumei became actual friends, Ina got Sana in to play with and etc...
>>34313652
Pretty much this. Most Gura fans don't know her genmates or even know Hololive at all.

>> No.34318447

>>34312608
Council made it worse bro. One of them never streamed and was the first EN to graduate, another also never streams and lies a lot. The other two got doxxed so fast and took a while to get their footing.

>> No.34318561

>>34308625
>Ame hasn't changed.
rumao

>> No.34318606

>>34308625
>Kiara
>fine
lmao

>> No.34318658

>>34312608
Council didn’t do as well as expected

>> No.34318849

>>34312608
>That's why council is superior
I love fauna, but this statement is completely wrong

>> No.34319480

>>34308328
Nah I would put Council as worse

>> No.34319551

Once E-celebs simp mori became the second top vtuber in myth and became influential, the future of the branch was decided
If mori had been the 4th popular in myth as she was before joining hololive, she would have learned humility.
Also it was funny that mori's rm seriously considers connor a friend, even though a quick check of twitter analysts proves he only cares about mori's numbers.

>> No.34319952

>>34318561
thanks for providing proof...oh wait. :)

>> No.34319989

>>34308328
too much pressure on them.

>> No.34320006

>>34311456
I'd vote for ID2. They're a gen stuck in a crossroad and has no direction.
At least Council are a just a bunch of streamers with nothing special as their strong point, while ID2 are like that plus they have no idea which market they want to pander to. It seems like thay want to catch both ID and EN audiences but as we know IOPs won't watch English-speaking vtubers while EOPs won't watch mixed languages vtubers.
At least Council knows their audience.

>> No.34320085

>>34308328
I love them so much bros. Wish they'd go back to their roots a little.

>> No.34320187

>>34308625
Ina is the only one who's been the same since day 1.

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>>34319952
>viewership gone down
>makes even less in supas
>"iMpRoVe YoUrSeLvEs!"
>hosting collabs with HomoENs now
>goshlings that spawned because of her are now fucking off
Like I get you teakeks are as retarded as your oshi but don't let the kronnies look better in comparison now.

>> No.34320646

>>34308328
The higher the expectations the higher the disappointment.

>> No.34321217

>>34319551
Keep trying, ESLchama! Maybe one day you'll write something we can understand.

>> No.34321664

>>34318606
I'm sorry you can't paint the board orange anymore, eggfriend.
Maybe tell Mori and Kronii to stop being retarded, you'd get another chance.

>> No.34321885

>>34308328
They were new, but then others could do what they did better. Gura is cute, but Mumei and Fauna can fill that spot. Ame is great behind the scenes, but she lacks an onscreen presence to get her over. Ina and Kiara are kind of bland and only really exists to bridge the gap between Jap and English, and Callie is too busy doing her own thing. The only reason they got as big as they did wa a becuase of the novelty of a well funded and professional English VTubing group.

>> No.34321914

>>34308625
Ame was the posterchild for goslingposters, they were fucking everywhere. I hardly see any goslings nowadays.

>> No.34322102

>>34312608
>That's why council is superior. They took note of all the flaws of myth and improved upon them.
roru
Even with all of Myths faults, Council still feels like little more than just sidekicks and accessories to them. In JP, people later generations at least managed to surpass earlier ones in subcount, but Council probably never will (and unless Cover manages to pull lightning out of a bottle with EN3 again, it's likely that future generations will do even worse. There is less hype now and the vtuber landscape has changed since Myth came out unopposed and people had no other alternatives)
I really can't think of much that Council has done that was actually memorable, original, not done before or better by a Myth member. Oh yeah, Council had the first EN graduation lol, I guess there's that. Other than that, there's not much that really sticks in the mind. Half of them don't stream anyway. They really feel like just filler

>> No.34322138

>>34308625
>Ame hasn't changed
How many fucking rocks are you living under

>> No.34322824

>>34308328
I blame mori and teamates

>> No.34324051

>>34322102
Yep, by the 1st year, all of Myth hit 1m subscribers, some far more than that. When it came time for Council's anniversary, not one of them had.
They also aren't as immediately appealing or as talented as Myth and the subs show it. Compare Gura "cute shark girl" to Mumei "I am the embodiment of civilisation"

>> No.34324454

>Ame: Set up a VR studio with tens of thousands of dollars of her own money, also organizes all of Myth's collabs and events because Cover won't
>Gura: Commissioned an anime episode of herself out-of-pocket
>Kiara: Releases a crapload of songs while having a streaming schedule that could rival those of other companies
>Mori: Juggles 3 jobs at once while being split between two completely different careers, still manages to stream and organize shit

>Mumei:
>Kronii:
>Fauna:
>Bae:

Tell me exactly how Council is superior to Myth?

>> No.34324584

>>34311881
>i still remember her really good ttrpg gming
you must have entered an alternate dimension where that happened

>> No.34324800

>>34324454
Mooms is cute

>> No.34324904

I'm out of the loop (Saruei fan), what the fuck did Mori do? I thought these guys were at the top.

>> No.34324930

>>34308328
Their new song fucking sucks ass. Ame sounds just as bad as she did when she she had her debut.

>> No.34325012

>>34324454
Council is coasting. I wonder where they got the idea of that being acceptable.

>> No.34325261

>>34324454
>Mumei: On standby to be Gura's replacement if she tries to step out of line
Best job ever, to be the Shark's voice double

>> No.34326402

>>34324454
you forgot Ina

>> No.34326720

>>34312608
Remove Kronii and I'll believe you

>> No.34326871

>>34326402
Who?

>> No.34326989

>>34312608
The council was so atrocious it caused me to leave the hololive fandom for nijisanji. And I'm very glad I did.

>> No.34327332

>>34324454
There's only a few livestreamers here worth watching. Most of them are pretty garbo.
Ame, Kiara, Mori, Mumei, Kronii, Bae.....not really worth watching for the most part. Several of them are bad, the rest are average at best.

The hololive vtubers that have some value are Gura, Ina, and Fauna.
However they're all lazy as fuck, and have very weak social interactions with the other people. Ina is repeating jokes from 2 years ago, and lied when she promised to leave her other job. Gura's singing has been declining a lot because she hasn't been practicing, and she's barely putting any effort into her job at all. Fauna is nice, but again she's very lazy and kind of boring sometimes.

I just don't understand the hololive obsession that some people have. With Phase, Kawaii, NijiEN, and even Tsunderia, there's so many other people worth watching.

>> No.34327586

>>34327332
>The hololive vtubers that have some value are Gura, Ina, and Fauna.
What's so special about those 3?

>> No.34327846

>>34327332

>I just don't understand the hololive obsession that some people have. With Phase, Kawaii, NijiEN, and even Tsunderia, there's so many other people worth watching.
>I just don´t understand why someone would prefer to eat choclate. Carrots, Broccoli and Onions are much better for your health.

>> No.34327926

>>34322138
How has she changed besides triggering unichud?

>> No.34327967

It's interesting to see people who don't watch any of these girls talk about them like they know anything

>> No.34328037

>>34327586
>No m*le.
That's basically it and these people pretend they are some connoisseur of vtuber kek

>> No.34328091

>>34324454
>two completely different careers
The other side's also like a vtuber, only without anime avatar.

>> No.34328195

>>34324904
Funny enough they still are at least in English Vtubing. The problem is that they don't fucking stream much anymore.

>> No.34328441

>>34328195
We love to shitpost but they genuinely do have projects going on, like Gura's thing or Ame'd 3d stuff and songs for kiara/Mori, just not really sure if it actually takes up that much time.
Council wise, Fauna imo is pretty consistent, and Mumei got school so can't really blame her.

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>>34308625
>ame hasn't changed
>ame hasn't changed
>ame hasn't changed
>ame hasn't changed
>ame hasn't changed
>ame hasn't changed

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>>34321914
https://youtu.be/M4L_muwQ6lU was a beautiful time bros. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain...

>> No.34330772

>>34328091
Music and videogame streaming are the same career?

>> No.34330882

They all became so boring

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