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34276210 No.34276210 [Reply] [Original]

I present to you the Hololive VSinger everyone.
Not even her audience likes the music, and people have the balls to say she is the best En singer. Even the Holostars get better numbers than her. She should unironically graduate from Hololive for being a talentless shithead. I am sure the music cost more than what she made

>> No.34276312

Don't let this thread distract you from the fact that Kiara's new song is crushing all of Mori's recent releases.

>> No.34276328

>>34276210
Seriously what the fuck are these numbers?
And the irys fags think she is better Moona, Gura, Risu, Mumei, Enna, Yugo, Sonny and Ike??
Even Iron Mouse is a better singer

>> No.34276368

>>34276210
Irys really is a complete failure, is this the power of the anti-male faction?

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34276378

>>34276210
yeahhh, sucks to be you Irys

>> No.34276454

oh no IRYScuck bros, we got too cocky

>> No.34276459

I know this thread is bait, so I’m just going to say that I will fuck every Aloucreep to completion TWICE without stopping once.

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34276540

Hehe everyone good job baiting on this thread! We earning good today.

>> No.34276554

this is what you get for hiring a rando that got lucky with yt algorithm instead of actual talented singer.

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34276558

>>34276210
wait, wasn't this the song the Iryscucks were talking so much about regarding how great it is?
So I assume the greatest song by this failure got only 160K clicks. Now that's just sad

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34276612

>>34276210
ByeRyS

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34276676

yeah, IRyS's music isnt as well as Hololive expected

>> No.34276739

>>34276210
I think even most IRyStocrats will tell you they like her more as a streamer than a music artist, I know I do. I'd honestly prefer that they drop the VSinger shtick to protect her throat and let her focus on streaming, she herself has said she wouldn't mind just being a regular Hololive member.

>> No.34276790

>>34276210
Oh hey, thank you for remind me to do my reps.

>> No.34276871

>>34276739
so you agree she isnt the best singer in En, right?

>> No.34276877

>>34276210
She needs to stop recording songs so she can go back to doing ASMR

>> No.34277022

>>34276871
yeah, her singing is shit. Honestly I rather listen Mori sing nowadays, and there is no doubt that the IRyStocrats who compare her with Enna are the delusional ones. They always she has better technique than Enna but fail to realise IRyS don't know the basic conventions when it comes to music. She is a good streamer but a shitty musician

>> No.34277036

>>34276871
In EN I think she is, I wouldn't say she's the best in Hololive though.

>> No.34277120

>>34277036
delusional. Moona, Risu, Kobo, Gura mogg her any day of the week and even Niji En members like. Yugo, Ike, Enna, Sonny mogg her. I say that as an IRyStocrat she doesn't know anything about music

>> No.34277126

>>34276312
fpbp

>> No.34277175

>>34277120
You should stop watching Vtubers and take some time to study English first.

>> No.34277220

>>34277036
You have random "Gura Sings" playlists on Youtube that have more views than IRyS' entire catalog. Gura is better and it's not even close

>> No.34277342

>>34277175
Or maybe wash his hands. This looks more like fat fingers and weird shit going on with anon’s phone than ESL

>> No.34277413

Trying way too hard OP, do some bait reps first.

>> No.34277466

>>34277022
How’s your day going Ennafag ?k8x84x

>> No.34277487

>>34277220
More popular =/= better

>> No.34277527

>>34277487
False

>> No.34277539

irys should make an album like towa's scream ep

>> No.34277566

>>34277466
i am an IRyStocrat, lmao but Enna is a better singer. It's not called being weak when you accept your oshi's weakness.

>> No.34277595

>ESL reply
>ESL reply
>ESL reply
It's all so tiring.

>> No.34277608

Should have hired Enna instead,Yagoo.Way better singer.Instead you hired irys because nihongo jouzo.

>> No.34277626

>>34277487
Gura's singing appeals to people; IRyS' doesn't

>> No.34277699

>>34276210
there's a difference between a singer and a songwriter, some can be great at both some can't.

>> No.34277807

>>34277699
Good Singers are a dime a dozen,good song writers are way rarer.Than u have the SSR,great singer and song writers

>> No.34277826

yeah irys and enner are great and all but yall clearly have never heard my wife yuka sing before. in fact her group alone contains some of the most talented singers out there. next time remember to educate yourselves!

>> No.34277831

>>34276328
the fact that anyone gives a single fuck about vtuber music is a signal for the downfall of humanity...its it all steaming dogshit sung by women who aren't singers with everything overengineered to 11 to hide the fact 99% of this chicks cant hold a note for thier lives

>> No.34277916

>>34277566
i am an Aloupeep , lmao but IRyS is a better singer. It's not called being weak when you accept your oshi's weakness.

>> No.34277975

>>34277916
This is an accurate statement, and is clearly without bias.

>> No.34278002

>>34277916
Man what are you on about. Just look at their recent karoke numbers. Enna gets twice as many live viewers than Irys

>> No.34278007

>>34276378
>>34276558
>>34276676
>>34277022
>>34277566
>>34277608
Please don't use my wife Enner for your shitposting. Thanks.

>> No.34278051

>>34277831
Singers that dont show their faces arent a new thing anon,many great utaites that later on became successful artists started out as a voice behind a picture as well.

>> No.34278052

>>34278007
I could say the same about OP using IWyS as bait.

>> No.34278113

>>34277916
Based.

>> No.34278333

>>34276210
bait aside, i need to vent. either her manekun is a straight idiot or cover keep trying to sabotage her stuff. its beyond annoying at this point. that mv not only look worse than amv highschoolers in freetime made, it came out after im unironically bored with the song just like her next mv probably and the next one and the next one next one maybe idk next one the next one? why idk nextone? no? when? where am i? what is this? i dont care

>> No.34278397

>>34278002
If Enna is such an amazing singer then where’s her album and music contract?

>> No.34278496

>>34278397
>where’s her album and music contract?
Ask Diego

>> No.34278523

>>34278333
Please manager san ,where is the Gravity mv ? I really love this song.

>> No.34278575

>>34278397
So you mean Mori is an amazing singer?
holokeks are delusional.

>> No.34278611

>>34276210
Irys isn't even collabing with the guys and you're already shitting on her, christ you guys are mentally challenged to the point of no return

>> No.34278673

>>34278611
Not everyone is a unicorn

>> No.34278701

Where are the pajeetbots that got T-series to 100mil

>> No.34278759

>>34278611
>you're already shitting on her
Anon there’s only one Ennafag

>> No.34278861

>>34278611
someone has been doing this shit daily and yes they're deranged

>> No.34278870

>>34276210
I thought they removed her VSinger title ages ago. Huh.

>> No.34278891

>>34277120
>In EN I think
>Moona, Risu, Kobo
Retard.

>> No.34278985

>>34278891
Gee, it’s almost like this whole thread is bait....

>> No.34279004

You say that's bad but have you actually checked the official JP Hololive channel where it links the JP covers and original to a playlist? Only the 12 recent if you don't want to look at the individual songs but they aren't really crushing it as one would expect. Azki's new song is at 48k after 5 days, followed by Sora's new cover at 66k after 8 days and Fubuki's cover at 68k after 5 days as the bottom 3 of those first 12 shown in the playlist. The top ones are Towa's collab cover at 471k after 9 days, and a tie between Mori's new original with Watame (at over 6 days) and Kanatas cover (over 2 weeks ago) at 420k.

Of course there are some original and songs doing well not shown in those first 12 videos in that playlist but I just wanted to give a quick look that not everyone is hitting 1 million views that quickly or instantly. I think to be in the top 200 covers and originals you have to have at least 2.3m views but I'm sure that's grown much bigger since the last time I saw that list. Just put into the perspective that ID, JP and EN combined have produced over 1,000+ songs and probably 5~6 of those I think have hit over 20 million views at this point, I would think there wouln't be a huge amount that have hit 1 million views as the first hurdle on that scale. Probably 60% haven't even done that if I had to guess without actually counting all the songs since I think that would be a little tedious to do. Probably bad she isn't hitting that as a vsinger but in the grand scheme of views in the vast amount of covers and original that Hololive has pumped out, it's not even the worse given that it's over 1 month and will grow over time.

>> No.34279029

>>34276210
her model sucks and her voice sucks, a very simple reason to why she's not getting numbers

>> No.34279099

>>34276312
>tribalfag shitpost response to a tribalfag shitpost
>only correct if you compare the MV to a half year old song, the cover and the collab with Watame which all released this month to one of 5 Kiara Orisongs.
>Let's End the World from last month did better
They'd laugh you out of /#/ for this.

>> No.34279135

>>34276210
Her singing is fine, she's not a bad singer. She can hit all the standard notes and her voice is inoffensive but boring.

I'm not sure exactly what's going through Omegatard's brain but it's probably something like this:
>Hire a vsinger who was primarily known for singing super cutesy anison and idol pop songs.
>Build up her entire character and lore as some edgy shonen heroine like Inori from Guilty Crown, that famously shitty failed anime/multimedia series.
>Hire redjuice to design her because he worked on Guilty Crown, duh.
>Make all her songs edgy shonen-pop as if it came straight out of an Egoist or Supercell or Aimer OP/ED for some trashy gacha game.
>Your cutesy anime pop moeblob girl doesn't have the vocal power to pull off that genre of singing so it just falls completely flat.
>Now your artist you hired explicitly for his connection to this style of music refuses to work with you, so you can't even give your vsinger alternate outfits.
>Instead of pivoting away from that genre and letting her do cutesy idol music she actually cares about, you just keep pushing these very difficult songs on her that she can't pull off.
>To top it all off you inexplicably rejected Enna and Millie from your vsinger auditions, quite possibly two of the only people in the EN vsinger scene who do have the vocal power to pull off that style of singing besides that one flip Commie 2view.
Why this guy hasn't been fired yet I have no idea.

>> No.34279276

>>34279135
Who says she cares about cutesy idol music?

>> No.34279325

>>34279135
Her most famous cover was Only My Raigun which requires an equal voice to Everything That Makes Me Whore.

>> No.34279587

>>34279135
You had me until Enna and Millie being the only 2 ENs with vocal power. Holy nijicope. You'd be a laughingstock in /vsinger/. Try watching more small corpos and indies.
>>34279325
Yes, IRyS can sing with power, but it strains her. She needs to stop churning out one mediocre song after another and focus on quality over quantity.

>> No.34279649

>>34279325
That's not really true on any point.
It's not her most famous cover, it doesn't require the same kind of vocal power or depth that Egoist songs do, and her cover isn't even very good because .
I'm saying this in the best way possible but they need to fire her producer or shift her music genre entirely if they want her to succeed. She's an idol stuck trying to be Chelly or Aimer but without the depth.

Imagine if Enna or Millie sang any of Irys's songs, they'd hit them perfectly because they can do a wide range which her songs require
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYL_a_HZzLY

Meanwhile Irys's strength is in the clarity and consistency and pleasantness of her voice and yet they keep giving her songs where she's expected to belt and blow you away when she just can't do it. Just fire her producer and find one that will write idol pop since it's what she's suited for.

>> No.34279694

>>34279649
They'd be better off cancelling the project and letting her sing whatever she wants with her own money

>> No.34279857

>>34279649
whoops I deleted part of my post
>and her cover isn't even very good because she just ends up trying to copy the original singer instead of singing it in her own voice. probably why so many people mistook some of her covers for the originals.

>>34279694
she's not a bad singer, sure she's not as good as Enna or Millie or Reimu but she's better than everyone else in HoloEN except Mumei. chumpedos don't @ me.
if they just gave her support she probably wouldn't be phenomenal but she wouldn't be struggling. she could at least be on par with the average JP members.

>> No.34279910

>>34279857
Idol pop songs might be more suited to her but they wouldn't get any better numbers. It would be pointless

>> No.34279936

>>34279910
hololive is literally an idol company, if they can't make idol pop songs work then their entire premise is a failed one.

>> No.34279962

>>34279857
mumei and gura are pretty much the same singing wise, gura has a nicer head voice and more control all around but mumei can belt better and has a little more range.

>> No.34280001

I'm sorry guys, I can't help myself from fucking her throat every night, it might have negatively impacted her voice.

10/10 She's such a good deepthroater.

>> No.34280044

>>34276378
>>34276558
>>34276676
>>34277022
>>34277566
>>34277608
Enna would only end up suffering the same fate if she were the one who became the holoEN VSinger, be glad she didn't become IRyS.

>> No.34280051

>>34279649
> Imagine if Enna or Millie sang any of Irys's songs, they'd hit them perfectly because they can do a wide range which her songs require
Even Moona can not sing irys song very well ,not to mention the weaker Enna and Millie.

>> No.34280221

>>34279857
> not as good as Enna or Millie or Reimu
I think nearly 80% the posts in this thread are written by nijicope.

>> No.34280223

IRyS' old covers only got as popular as they did because SMG and Aniplex would copyright strike the originals off the platform. Her covers were exceptional replacements but it's not like 100m people were listening to her Platinum Disco BECAUSE it was her.

Now she's in a position where she is probably the best singer in HoloEN, but her original music actually performs the worst because she doesn't have the pulling power alone.

Even fucking Rosemi's OG song is outperforming her and the reason for that is mostly that Rosemi and the producers involved know how to get the best out of her limited vocal range. IRyS is stuck trying to be AIMER with clunky English lyrics.

>> No.34280233

feels like cover just pays for tons of songs and then dumps all the generic shit ones on irys

shes a great singer, but like 90% of her songs sound like a forgettable anime opening

although part of that might be me not being able to nihongo

>> No.34280264

>>34280233
She'd make any song generic with her voice

>> No.34280267

>>34280233
>shes a great singer
lol

>> No.34280278
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thats cool but banan

>> No.34280372

>>34280223
>Even fucking Rosemi's OG song is outperforming her and the reason for that is mostly that Rosemi and the producers involved know how to get the best out of her limited vocal range. IRyS is stuck trying to be AIMER with clunky English lyrics.
Yeah I noticed this lol. Rosemi's song lyrics are complete nonsense and sound incredibly awkward but because it's produced by Camellia it works as a denpa song and is incredibly catchy. They took someone that can't sing at all and is COMPLETELY tone deaf and made a earworm of a song out of it.

Why does Cover in contrast keep giving IRyS horrible producers who waste her singing abilities on songs that don't fit her at all?

>> No.34280437

she should have done more covers instead of being forced to shit out original releases constantly
she's probably someone pet project and that someone is not doing a good job

>> No.34280459

>>34280264
>>34280267
can't deny that she sings like technically well, even if you find her voice generic or not that interesting

like she hits the notes and gets the vibrato and shit

>> No.34280499

>>34280437
considering how hard they pushed her "lore" before debut and how they keep trying to make her image into some ultra chuuni shonen heroine it's probably omegatroon's doing.
the guy is completely out of touch with what vtuber fans want.

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>>34279857
>sure she's not as good as Enna or Millie or Reimu
I don't even watch IRyS as I have become Tempus fan now (mainly Axel) but wtf are you on about??
She is way, way, way better than Millie and Reimu and I will say she is even better than Enna. Fuck that chink fraud. IRyS actually has a Higher percentage of nailing a random song thrown at her. Also the three of them aren't even the best singers in Niji En

>> No.34280576

>>34280523
>discussion that has nothing to do with your homos
>gotta jump in and make sure everyone knows you dislike nijien
why are tempiss fans so fucking insecure lmao.

>> No.34280609

>>34280459
Her vibrato isn't that good compared to Gura. Her technique is alright for JP songs but completely inadequate for English ones.
>>34280523
>higher percentage of nailing a random song
This isn't guitar hero

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>>34280576
says the clown bringing up nijiEN

>> No.34280640

>>34280576
They have nothing, anon. That should be pretty obvious by their choice to resort to watching literally who vtubers.

>> No.34280657

>>34280223
So she would be doing better if she was still doing covers like Ama Lee.

>> No.34280726

>>34280609
Gooba can barely pronounce words

>> No.34280729

unicuck bros... I thought we were supporting her because of her stance on male collabs...

>> No.34280732

>>34280576
Because I stand neutral there you fucking brain-dead piece of shit.
Unlike your Nijizangi niggers my oshi is atleast entertaining.
>>34280609
Also thanks for outing that you have never watched Enna actually sing out of her comfort zone. She sounded horrible in the unarchived stream.

>> No.34280749

>>34280576
>discussion that has nothing to do with your whores
>gotta jump in and make sure everyone knows you dislike holoen
why are nijicope so fucking insecure lmao.

>> No.34280787

>>34280732
Her unarchived karaoke was better than any of IRyS's unarchived ones

>> No.34280827

>>34280787
my mom can beat up your mom

>> No.34280846

>>34280609
why not compare to adele? like, yeah, irys is not 100% best singer world, but she's still great

anyway, i really like this irys song, you can give it a listen if you've never heard it before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t8Za0T1T8M

>> No.34280854

>>34280576
>Says the boy who brings Enna in a IRyS thread
Why are nijizangs so insecure??

>> No.34280853

>>34280787
Kek

>> No.34280884

>>34280846
Well that's her only good one

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34280908

>>34280787
Let's laugh at him

>> No.34281034
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34281034

IRyS va Enna

>> No.34281035

>>34280884
>Well that's her only good one
Motherfuxxer
Gravity, Berserker, Aou no ji, One step at a time and Till the end of me are better

>> No.34281041

>>34280609
>completely inadequate
You know, I find English songs where women are considered to be mimicries of successful voices far too often. I don’t know why so many chuubas sing Britney Spears songs, but I want to tear my eardrums out when they do. IRyS in particular shows a strong weakness with this type of song progression.

>> No.34281074

>>34280884
xd

come now we don't have to be entirely mean to her, although i presume it's not her fault

>> No.34281165

>>34280787
And this here is the reason why I don't like you Enna niggers because you talk out of your ass. Elira Bros atleast make some decent counter points

>> No.34281175

>>34281035
BERSERKER is basically a knockoff version of HCH

>> No.34281269

>>34281165
All IRyS sings in unarchived karaokes are some shitty Bruno Mars pop songs. She never tries to tackle hard songs or she would get exposed

>> No.34281288

>>34281175
No, thats Only in Hope. Bare you teeth and Berserker are different

>> No.34281400

>>34281165
I don't like Enna that much but her range in unarchived karaokes is way bigger.
Irys sings the same songs all the time and none of them suit her voice. In fact American songs just don't work with her voice in general because traditional pop music in America died 30 years ago. It's all hyperproduced electronic-pop or pop-rap hybrids that she can't do.

>> No.34281435

>>34281269
I cant believe I was wasting my time talking to someone who can't even get the basic things right.
Most of her songs are the love songs and the mellow songs for the unarchived Karoke.
And what do you mean she doesn't experiment??
She fucking sang Bella and Say ok

>> No.34281454

>>34281269
Didn’t she sing the phantom of opera and think of me ?

>> No.34281464

I learned so much about IRyS from the voices in my head and I am sharing it with you today

>> No.34281499

>>34281464
Thanks.
By the way, your mind wrote this to you.

>> No.34281517

>>34281400
You think same fagging again and again is gonna help your case?
Stop embarassing yourself

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34281568

https://youtu.be/IOa4YR2TWmA

To all the people that like to shit on Enna's singing because she's in the rival company, please just listen to this live performance of godish that mogs most covers

>> No.34281585

>>34281269
Well her original songs are hard enough, she doesn’t need to prove anything about her techniques.

>> No.34281656

>>34281435
What's special about Say OK?

>> No.34281724

>>34281568
The one thing that pisses me off about Enna is she knows exactly how good she is at singing and will abuse it to act like a diva and force people to listen to her ramble on and on during karaoke streams. It was fucking infuriating during that relay when all the JP and ID and KR members just sang their hearts out without pauses and Enna kept having 5 minute breaks just to troll everyone and ended up going over time.

Fucking bitch bird needs rape correction.

>> No.34281738

>>34281568
Thanks for contaminating my ears anon.

>> No.34281783

>>34281656
It's not. Say ok was for the Bruno Mars point you made.
She mostly sing songs like say ok

>> No.34281900

>>34276210
I like IRyS and her music a lot but she has been mishandled
>MVs for songs come out months after the songs just get dropped on sportify
>The MVs are usually just still images with abstract painter effects that really didn't need to take so long. IRyS is barely in them.
>Even the song release schedule is sus. There's no anticipation. No hype. IRyS never does a countdown stream. Her best song got dropped when everyone was distracted by Myth having their first ever offcollab.
>More people would probably like her music if she performed them more. Her Karaokes never feature her own stuff.
>She would be able to perform on stage and get more attention if she had a 3D Model, but she can't get that because of RedJuice's totally stupid design.
>The lyrics to a lot of her songs are geniunely bad with extremely clunky Engrish or cover the same thing "I am hope. But I'm in a world with fear. What can I do? I should bring hope."

>> No.34281910

>>34281269
IRyS's internet overdose cover has more technique than any of the Enna songs.
And that's not even in her top 5 most technical songs/covers

>> No.34281940

>>34281724
Agreed, she should also post a video of herself squishing small rodents with her feet as reparations

>> No.34281969

>>34281900
She's just not that good

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>>34281940
I miss the animal crushing aloucreep like you wouldn't believe.

>> No.34281986

>>34281910
Technique must no longer mean anything

>> No.34282117

>>34281983
Can i get a QRD on this. this sounds weird?

>> No.34282154

>>34281986
Agreed because you faggots think that technique is about
>singing from your diaphragm
When everyone can't do that.
Most of the technique in truth boils down to how well you are able to change your tones and notes in the middle of the song which Enna isn't better at, but no. For you guys that doesn't mean shit and technique means singing from the chest

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34282198

>>34282117
no, this is deep NijiEN lore, not for holorbonies

>> No.34282212

>>34282154
Bodied that zang fraud

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>>34282117
Aloucreep kept showing up in /nijien/ to post videos of Chinese women crushing small animals to death with their feet while giggling cutely.
She'd also occasionally include vocaroos of her own giggling to taunt people for being disgusted by it. It was truly disgusting but also morbidly fascinating.

>> No.34282250

>>34282154
Personally I find technique meaningless if you can't sound good or interesting or use it to convey emotions. I guess IRyS makes for a good vocaloid substitute

>> No.34282429

>>34282250
>I guess IRyS makes for a good vocaloid substitute
Yes the age old cope about IRyS when she was being forced to sing songs she didn't want to.
Now her songs sound completely different.
Gravity, One step at a Time, Till the end of me.
Just listen to these 3 new songs. Thats it.
She has changed drastically
And her Karokes were always soulful btw. A lot of her great karoke songs were from October-November 2021

>> No.34282474

>>34281900
The whole project has been mishandled to hell and whoever is in charge should be demoted or even fired. It's clear that she's just a singer and not a songwriter, but that doesn't excuse the Engrish on some of her early songs when she's under the fucking EN management. Honestly as time passes the more I believe that the EN staff just doesn't want another big musical member for whatever reason. Council and Tempus already had 0 members who wanted to focus on music like Mori and IRyS is treated like they never wanted a vsinger to begin with, so if EN3 ends up in a similar way I'll be convinced that the people in charge of the branch don't want anyone to "steal" Mori's spotlight.

>> No.34282566

>>34282429
The consensus is that they were technically competent but not soulful. I used to listen to her early karaokes over and over and liked them but would never call them soulful

>> No.34282669

>>34282474
>Honestly as time passes the more I believe that the EN staff just doesn't want another big musical member for whatever reason. Council and Tempus already had 0 members who wanted to focus on music like Mori and IRyS is treated like they never wanted a vsinger to begin with, so if EN3 ends up in a similar way I'll be convinced that the people in charge of the branch don't want anyone to "steal" Mori's spotlight.
it's a much more mundane reason than that.
singers just don't generate money if you can't hold concerts. people don't buy songs the way they used to and spotify pays like shit.

having another Gura that can fuck off from streaming or doing anything for weeks at a time and still retain 10-20k members is more valuable than a singer who has to actually be talented and produce a worthwhile product that takes development time. selling a friend experience through streaming and cultivating parasocial fans is more important than singing ability.

>> No.34282727

>>34280523
her EN songs don't hit as much as her JP ones. Diorama was pretty cool

>> No.34282754

>>34282727
Wrong. Gravity is by far her best song

>> No.34282816

>>34282754
The chorus is alright and catchier than her other songs but overall it's still mediocre

>> No.34282847

>>34282754
Although I’m very fond of HCH and CoD, I agree.

>> No.34282852

>>34276312
Thanks for the reminder

>> No.34282877
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34282877

>>34282474
I mean, "Till the end of me" is listed like this in spotify. Yeah, no wonder that isn't lighting up the charts with an English audience. Oh and bonus shittery, the instrumental version isnt marked either.

>> No.34282924

>>34282816
Completely disagree. The age old cope of "ohhhh, her voice is good but lacks personality" was shattered here.
The only thing I didn't like about th song was the instrument mixing where in the beginning the instrument are louder than her vocals

>> No.34282976

>>34282924
Where's the personality in Gravity? It's the same as all her other songs

>> No.34283037

>>34282976
How???
Now you are just saying this for the sake of the argument

>> No.34283063

>>34282816
The only thing mediocre is your mom’s skill on my bed.

>> No.34283099

>>34283063
I can save her...

>> No.34283117

>>34283063
You need to atleast 18 to browse this site

>> No.34283122

>>34282669
>singers just don't generate money if you can't hold concerts.
And that's also a good argument against how she has been managed. The moment EN had their appearance on HoloFes she should've been booked for her 3D debut instantly, but now she has to wait for her redesign that'll come god know when because redjuice is busy with something. I have nothing against him, but Cover should've thought twice about getting someone who's apparently frequently busy before asking him to design one of their vtubers, or at least let IRyS have some input on her design considering it would be much easier to let a single person have a bit more control on how her avatar would look like.

>>34282877
Yeap. They're not even trying.

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>>34276210
1. Vtubers make shit music in general, their high numbers are not a product of their talent and they are the equivalent of those shitty talent show singers.
2. IRyS is a great streamer and horrible model plus the shitty solo release with the forced Vsinger project completely killed her growth.
3. Fuck off Nijiniggers.

>> No.34283173

>>34282976
> her other songs
Like which song ? I think it is definitely different from HCH or CoD

>> No.34283229

>>34283173
Till the End of Me and One Step At a Time. My point is that there's nothing special about Gravity and it doesn't "shatter" any argument about her voice and singing being generic

>> No.34283244

>>34282154
>singing from your diaphragm
>When everyone can't do that.
Anon that is literally the first thing you learn how to do properly in any singing class.
>Most of the technique in truth boils down to how well you are able to change your tones and notes in the middle of the song which Enna isn't better at
Except she is,her transition between head voice,falsetto and chest is much more seamless.Not to mention a significant way you can tell how strong singer is would be how "stable" or strong their voice is when singing.

>> No.34283334

>>34283122
Yep, this. I remember when 3rdfes was announced, everyone was excited because of the Gem logo and though IRyS would be there. Nope. Hell, there's even doubt that she'll appear in 4thFes, which would be ridiculous.

>> No.34283375

Reminder that this is what IRyS' high notes sound like
https://youtu.be/UEMcl5rzLPU?t=12970

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34283444

This fucking time loop of ennafags seething of IRyS position of Vsinger is not funny anymore, niggers.
Accept it ennafags, Enna is fucking whore whose fail in Vsinger audition. no need screeching like monkeys to tell the world that your oshi is loser for Vsinger positions. it's so embarrassing to think about it.

>> No.34283650

>>34283334
4th fes will be on March and apparently the "maybe November" reveal is unlikely, so unless they prepare the 3D together with the reworked 2D model (or she goes full 3D like most of Gen 0) there's a really good chance she won't be there, which is wild to consider when Council and Holox are pretty much confirmed that they'll perform there.

>> No.34283683

>>34283244
>>34283244
And guess, what it's not necessary for all the singers. Not all singers can sing from the chest. It's just a fact. Opera singers are able to sing from the chest, but for an idol singer, it's not a must thing to have.
>Except she is,her transition between head voice,falsetto and chest is much more seamless.Not to mention a significant way you can tell how strong singer is would be how "stable" or strong their voice is when singing.
It's not. It's above average but that's about it

>> No.34283694

>>34283650
When did they confirm Council?

>> No.34283742

>>34283375
Are just pretending to be dumb or what?
She is crying there anon

>> No.34283748

>>34283694
Japan is already open to foreigners and there's no way Council won't be there. It's a much easier bet than Myth and ID1 on the 3rd fes.

>> No.34283817

>>34278007
imagine having this annoying bitch as your wife

>> No.34283851

>>34283244
I agree about her singing from the registers but that's all she has over IRyS when it comes to technique.
The songs IRyS sings are objectively more difficult to sing

>> No.34283853

>>34283650
> apparently the "maybe November" reveal is unlikely
Source?

>> No.34283857

>>34283742
She's not

>> No.34283926

>>34283851
It's certainly not the only thing. Listen to her sing "Whenever, Wherever" by Shakira from her last unarchived karaoke and it should be clear that she does it justice in a way that IRyS never will be able to.

>> No.34283943

I never understood the "If IRyS had 3D, she could hold concert and do much better !" argument.
If people already don't listen to her songs, why would they go to her concert ?

>> No.34284052

>>34283444
I read this in yagoo's voice

>> No.34284116

>>34283943
She's also barely able to keep up with her current vsinger duties without her throat dying. Adding concerts would just make things worse

>> No.34284152

>>34283926
Same way i can say Enna singing rolling in the deep will never do justice to Adele. And IRyS has never sang whenever wherever. So what's with this argument

>> No.34284205

>>34283943
3D Lives are big events that lot of people watch. Look at how ID's appearance in 3rdFes suddenly boosted their popularity because people were stunned by their singing ability.

>> No.34284217

>>34283943
Cope from Irys saviorfags

>> No.34284240

>>34284116
>her throat dying
We are not talking about Suisei.

>> No.34284260

>>34284240
???

>> No.34284263

>>34276459
There's only, like, 3 of them anon, though by all means don't let that stop you

>> No.34284302

>>34283926
Wtf , when did that song become a song where you can test singers ability in techniques??
What is this cope?

>> No.34284310

>>34279587
>She needs to stop churning out one mediocre song after another and focus on quality over quantity.
She's just singing a Cover produced song, anon. She has a little say in it.

>> No.34284320

>>34284205
>Look at how ID's appearance in 3rdFes suddenly boosted their popularity because people were stunned by their singing ability.
It's mostly ID3 bringing a lot of eyes on the branch, people conflate the two because they were almost at the same time. Look at Risu the "standout" performance of day 2, her views are still in the shitter.

>> No.34284361

Man, nijifags really hate Irys but what surprises me is how much are they willing to lie

>> No.34284380

>>34284302
It's a song where you have to add a lot of personality and flourish to match the original and IRyS is not good at that

>> No.34284385

love all the professional singers in these threads that pop up to defend Gura and Enna and put down everyone else

>> No.34284395

>>34284320
>her views are still in the shitter.
tbf, she barely streams.

>> No.34284447

>>34279099
>>Let's End the World from last month did better
It's about to pass let's end the world, my cuckbeat friend.

>> No.34284448

>>34279135
She is a very good singer it’s more of she really has no style or flavor. All of her music just sounds generic like a machine wrote it. Even though a lot of people don’t like callis music it has a very distinct tone and makes her stand out as this was a song for her

>> No.34284471

>>34284380
Mother fucker, that's not technical. I can't believe i have been arguing with a fucking wannabe. And just for the reference, IRyS sang rolling in the deep as pointed out by an anon and fucking nailed it

>> No.34284539

>>34284240
speaking of Suisei, she could make baby noises on stage and have a more imposing presence than Enna could ever hope to achieve

>> No.34284543

>>34284385
You are the only one mentioning Gura here.

>> No.34284554

>>34284471
I wasn't limiting myself to only technical aspects, and her Rolling in the Deep wasn't that good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa4EAdsz0_E
This is a much better Adele cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy_3OpeE_-8

>> No.34284563

>>34277831
a lot of them cant sing and it makes no sense to for them to make professional covers when their voice is auto tuned through most of it. However, there are people like me who enjoy karaoke. It's fun to watch non professional singers improve over time, but i am aware that some of them are plain bad and do not improve.

>> No.34284619

>>34284539
You know Suisei’s karaoke stream this year are not very good right?

>> No.34284639

>>34284543
>You are the only one mentioning Gura here.
>Ctrl + f gura : 11 results

>> No.34284652

>>34276312
I like DO U, but that's obviously only because Mori has released like 10 music videos recently and Kiara has only released one? It's not really anything to get excited about.

>> No.34284699

>>34284619
Baby noises anon
That's all she needs

>> No.34284714

>>34284554
You fucking retard, you are actually making me seethe with these brain-dead arguments. If you are comparing them, atleast post a same song. I am not here comparing the two, but if you are trying to dickride enna, do it the right way ffs
And in what world was IRyS singing Rolling in the deep not good?

>> No.34284790

>>34284554
Are you Enna fags seriously this retarded? No wonder IRyS fans hate you. If you want to compare the singing, atleast select the same songs faggot
IRyS
>https://youtu.be/tDytEQRR9vs
>https://youtu.be/hC0v1bOnuuU
Vs Enna
>https://youtu.be/KROlg85PTV0
>https://youtu.be/07CdumHTeOo
The only edge she has over IRyS is that's she has a more unique voice and more natural talent that's it. IRyS mogs her everywhere else

>> No.34284799

>>34284554
Umm anon, please tell me how are they the same type of songs?

>> No.34284828

>>34277831
hb suisei?

>> No.34284833

>>34284799
They're both Adele songs

>> No.34284870

>>34276312
HOLY SHIT

>> No.34284876

>ITT: numberfags and armchair experts talk about shit they don't understand

>> No.34284883
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I like IRyS more so she's a better singer
that's just the truth

>> No.34284912

>>34284790
> IRyS fans hate you
Actually all the other fanbase hate Ennafag.

>> No.34284925

>>34284714
No power in the chorus which is the most important part of the song

>> No.34284963

>>34284833
You can't be fucking serious

>> No.34284965

>>34276312
She has a new song out? Is it better than Moona's?
>>34276210
Can someone please fill me in on why there's been this >Sudden anti campaign against IRyS? I've been too busy either doing something else or actually watching vtubers to keep up with board drama these last 7 months (French is such a fucking horrible language to learn please just kill me) but it feels like she did *something* to piss schizos off and I don't understand what it is,.

>> No.34284985

>>34284925
>No power in the chorus
>She said that she won't be too loud on that song
anon, did you even watch the clip you posted?

>> No.34284987

>>34284963
If you're not capable of comparing singers with different but similar songs that's your problem

>> No.34284995

>>34284925
No power
>Go back to your containment thread ennafag

>> No.34285042

>>34284965
It's probably because IRyS just told the male collab beggers to BTFO and then epically trolled them by collabing with a Male model vtuber acted by a female.

>> No.34285046

>>34284987
◉‿◉

>> No.34285068

>>34277626
Dude, Gura's singing appeals to lolicons. That's not really the proof of quality you think it is.

>> No.34285069

>>34284965
>Is it better than Moona's?
No, but it's pretty good, and the MV is a treat
>Sudden anti campaign against IRyS?
Isn't it mostly because IRyStocrats can't stop shitting on the other girls to prop up IRyS ? That's the natural push back.

>> No.34285072

I hope you're pretending to be a retard, ennafag

>> No.34285075
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>>34284714
nta and i am subbed to irys, but irys rarely adds 'color' to what she sings. She can hit notes and hold them, but she does not add anything to what she sings. In karaoke especially, it is important to do this. That is why people enjoy enna and gura so much, because they both bring emotion and a personal touch to their singing.

>> No.34285080

>>34284554
This is legit the stupidest take i have seen all day

>> No.34285092

IRyS is a very versatile and good technical singer (which I find interesting since she had no vocal training before), but she's not my favorite
I still prefer Mumei and Gura when they sing EN songs that fit their range (Mooms when she's not fooling around, Goomba for those genres where she's just absolutely killer in)

>> No.34285176

>>34276328
Based unitychad

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>>34284883
I love IRyS the most so she's the best singer.
That's the truth.

>> No.34285210

>>34285075
>nijinigger
>likes Irys
Why am I not surprised?

>> No.34285251

>>34285069
>Isn't it mostly because IRyStocrats can't stop shitting on the other girls to prop up IRyS ? That's the natural push back.
Sure nigger, we are the ones shitting on others

>> No.34285275

>>34285069
>Isn't it mostly because IRyStocrats can't stop shitting on the other girls to prop up IRyS ? That's the natural push back.
That's a narrative I've been seeing for a while but only seen fairly few instances of.
Two of the fanbases who did that the most had their oshis graduate so I feel like it might be bad luck. The third most guilty fanbase's oshi has started to crack.
> No, but it's pretty good, and the MV is a treat
Might check it out then.
>>34285042
-ESL
-Not that recent
-Literally draw a girl call it a guy levels of male
-Stop treating everything as a personal attack
-Norio is an actual institution in vtubing
-Meds
-Huh didn't know that collab happened.

>> No.34285303

>>34276210
Why are cometfags like this?

>> No.34285311

Enna gets mogged by Miko, absolutely irrelevant singer

>> No.34285344

>>34284883
>>34285190
Based truth tellers. I like IWyS.

>> No.34285526

>>34284320
ID1 in general did nothing with their newfound stardom after their fes 3 performance. I think Risu basically took a 2 week break right after it?

>> No.34286304

>>34276328
i mean yeah ironlung is a good singer overall, she mogs a ton of people

>> No.34286306

>>34284320
>>34285526
Moona did make use of it and her karaoke streams are inclining
Risu is...well, I don't know wtf is wrong with that treerat, but last time I heard she will hold a mini concert so maybe she is doing her singing reps
Also Risu has been infamously known for self sabotaging herself to get low numbers and I'm not joking
Don't know about Iofi

>> No.34286663
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34286663

Just passing by and this is one of the worst threads I've ever seen on 4chan in years. I don't particularly like or dislike this IRyS girl and I have no opinion about her but OP is severly insecure and is acting like a 15 year old bitchy teen girl. And he's probably some adult filipino or something. Samefagging over and over.

Is /vt/ always like this?

>> No.34286763

>>34276210
Because management is retarded and gives her a MV 4 months later and then decide to shill a homo collab instead. And then IRyS say that she doesn't wanna make to much advertisement to her music because she doesn't wanna be annoying

>> No.34287067

>>34284790
Like there is anything else that matters more?
Enna is the Messi of vsingers. No matter how hard IRyS or anyone tries, they can never reach Ennas level. Also, like Messi she doesn't talk about how hard she works behind the scenes. She works for atleast 30 hours a week tesing her vocals behind the scenes

>> No.34287233

>>34287067
>Comparing Messi to the that Chinese fraud
I am sure that even if you put someone like Adele on one side and Enna on other you will say Enna is better than her

>> No.34287383

>>34285275
>-
Could you be any more of a faggot?

>> No.34287384

>>34287067
a little too obvious, falseflaggerkun

>> No.34287476

>>34287067
Last time I checked, Messi wasn't trying to pander the zangs by saying how he was a virgin and doesn't have much dating experience on stream

>> No.34287627

>>34287383
I accept your concession.

>> No.34287639

>>34276739
I thought she was essentially folded into council after sana left

>> No.34287658

>>34286663
>Is /vt/ always like this?
/vt/ is like a mix of /mlp/, the Build a Bear community and midwestern potluck politics.

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