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"don't bite the hand that feeds you"

>> No.34216021

Ollie is a nice girl. Bit of a retard, but still a nice girl. I wish her the best.

>> No.34216050

>>34215716
She should see Gura's viewer to subscriber ratio
It's far worse

>> No.34216063

More like don't be addicted to a nerf game

>> No.34216096

She should stream chess more, that should help

>> No.34216163

>>34216021
>Ollie is a nice girl. Bit of a retard, but still a nice girl
if she is then /vt/ would fall head over heel for her

>> No.34216193

>>34215716
I want Ollie to stick my fingers in her mouth and lightly bite them.

>> No.34216219

I still haven't realized that it was because I collaborated with a man.

>> No.34216247

>>34216050
That's because Gura bought fake subs

>> No.34216262

>>34215716
she even losing to anya now kek. anya is in the top in her genmate

>> No.34216402

>>34216050
No it isn't... Gura's at 15.5%, Ollie is at 4.5%....

>> No.34216445

she need to use her first outfit more than her zoomer outfit(both second and third is bad in my opinion)

>> No.34216506

>>34216402
>15.5%
This is implying that Goombus gets 600K plus in viewership per stream which is pure BS

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>>34215716
I wonder who could be behind this post...

>> No.34216596

>>34216506
That's what she gets, though.
If you mean CCV, then Gura's is still 10x higher than Ollie while less than 4x the subs.

>> No.34216633

>>34216096
Live viewers or total video views? For most of the west, Ollie streams in the middle of the night.

>> No.34216810

>annoying zoomer
>speaks more english than Indonesian
>shits on her fans for asking to speak more indonesian(based)
>plays the same game constantly, making it a debuff game
Of course her numbers are shit. She may be a good girl and all but her viewership reflects the quality of her content/appeal. She gas to start doing SOMETHING differently if it really bothers her that much

>> No.34216818

>>34216506
Thats not implying, thats a fact

>> No.34216883

>>34215716
I'll save her but only if I get to finger her too

>> No.34216888

>>34216506
Anon, CCV is fun for horse racing, but check Gura's vod numbers: they're still monstrous.

>> No.34216927

>>34216575
fucking based

>> No.34216981
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>>34215716
Ollie's a nice person, but she plays games I don't give a shit about. That's all it is. I ain't watching any streamer/vtuber if they're not playing a game I like or am interested in.

>> No.34217171

>>34216219
They'll always blame the fans that left.
Remember Mori and her retarded followers are never in the wrong and therefore they never need to improve themselves.

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>>34215716
Does have to be kind of a mindfuck to think only 0.1% of your subscriber base cares enough about you to catch you live.

>> No.34217706

>>34215716
Mori, Ollie, Baelz. Kronii is next. Twitter fags won't save you!

>> No.34217898

>>34216888
It's the same as Pekora with half the subs as her, and almost twice as Kobo with less than half of her subs.

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>>34200569
You get your gift card yet? this is pathetic btw at least change your image

>> No.34218004

>>34217171
The recline in western vtubing is real. If a holo woman isn't careful 3 view is her fate

>> No.34218014

>>34215716
That's what you got for catering EOP too much

>> No.34218074

>>34215716
This is why you don't try to appeal to the twitter crowd while scaring away gachikoi. Those people will fuck off sooner or later and you'll be left with just your gachikoi.
The E-celebs she was sucking up to have also all abandoned her now that they can't leech off of her anymore and all that's left is the annoying indies that still can gain benefit from her 1K views.
All of ID has been inclining since the concert and ID3 except for her.

>> No.34218978

>>34215716
Dejavu
I've been on this thread before

>> No.34219084
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>>34216050
Think about it anon
>Ollie
1millions subs 1-2k ccv
>Gura
4 million subs 20k ccv

>> No.34219115

>>34215716
Except the clip has her saying she doesn't care.

>> No.34219139

>>34215716
She should just do more asmr content like this and I'd watch her more. Did she just borrow the binaural microphone or something? I don't know why she's never done it again.
https://youtu.be/3M0sVzE9oKI

>> No.34219210

I've got nothing against Ollie, but I remember her fans spamming how she was replacing Moona as the face of HoloID.

>> No.34219395

>>34217898
Almost all of Hololive has more dead subs than Gura, only a few don't.

>> No.34219618

>>34215716
> "I want to destroy idol culture!"
> Play debuff games.
> Hate and ignore your Indonesian viewers.
> Collab and hang around with people that pretty significant chunk of Hololive fans finds annoying and don't care for.
> Arguably most vomit-inducing alternative outfit.

She made everything to scare away all kinds of viewers besides Reddit tourists that watch only the current "trend of the week" vchuubas. And she's too on side of things to be actually dragged into any drama that would attract Redditors.

>> No.34219626

>>34217898
Everyone knows about dead and sleeping subs already. Doesn't change that she's pulling monstrous views.

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>>34215716
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>>34216575
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>>34216810
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>>34217171
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>>34218978
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>>34219210
>>34219395
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>>34219626
clipnigger thread, you dont watch vtubers

>> No.34219805

>>34216050
ahaha look at this numbernoob

>> No.34219840

>>34217898
Guras VOD view average is 800k+ per VOD
not a single other vtuber comes even remotely close

>> No.34219902

>>34219840
Yet she's less watched than Kaela - you might wanna explain why?

>> No.34220032

>>34215716
How are those male collabs working out for your chuubas, seafags?
Ollie pulls shit numbers
Kobo pulls shit numbers

Kek. Indogs shitting on unicorns while being unicorns themselves will never not be funny.

>> No.34220107

>>34219718
neither do you

>> No.34220117

>>34219902
she doesn't stream lmao is that even a question

>> No.34220141

>>34219718
zombie hands typed this post.

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>>34219840
>view average is 800k+ per VOD
Come on, anon.

>> No.34220286

>>34219718
Retard.

>> No.34220334

>>34220117
Exactly, 800k sounds impressive but then u see her upload 1 video every week

>> No.34220390

>>34215716
The people want Olivia. The people want a cute seiso girl.

>> No.34220422

>>34219718
so true sister

>> No.34220463

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktHtq5brmts

OP lies, she explicitly states that she doesn't care about this.

>> No.34220663

>>34220162
800k is what you get when you divide all the VODS on her channel with the total view count you retard

>> No.34220677

Moona has just as much deadsubs and also lower income. Why isn't she feeling depressed about it?

>> No.34220745

>>34220463
>OP lies
How do you know that? How can we know you’re not lying either?

>> No.34220749

>>34220334
you do not even know what you are talking about you dumb idiot
Kaela spams streams and her average is a pathetic 76k per VOD

>> No.34220849

>>34215716
Whatever, she collab with males again and you would be happy about it.

>> No.34220907

>>34220749
Her streams are longer and more frequent resulting in higher watchtime.
You failed elementary school math

>> No.34220946

>>34220849
Heard of grammarly? (not sponsored)

>> No.34221050

>>34219902
kaela stream over 80+ and already reaching fucking 200h. while gura not even near 20. she is lazy af

>> No.34221160

>>34220677
bcs she isn't ollie

>> No.34221200

>>34215716
I saw on another thread that Ollie's chess skill level is on par with a GM.
Why doesn't she stream chess to get those numbers up?

>> No.34221212

>>34221050
Quality> quantity

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>>34216050
Zomrades have rotting brain lmao

>> No.34221274

>>34221200

That's absolutely not true lol. People here have no idea how high of a skill level you need to be a GM, it's not just some term to throw around.

>> No.34221276

This is all you need to know about Ollie right here

https://youtu.be/WbyQaZZMDkM

She has self respect, charisma, and morally sound ideas. She could be a man and I'd still donate. Good on her.

>> No.34221318

>>34221274
But she beat some GMs. I saw it on a thread another day.
Also how do you know how much skill it takes to be a GM? I'm pretty sure you are included in the set of "People here"

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>>34220463
>she doesn't care about this
Why are you lying

>> No.34221343

>>34221259
Fans reflect oshi etc.

>> No.34221405

>>34221200
https://www.chess.com/member/ollie_k

Ollie is 372, the ratings guide is:
Novice (<800)
Beginner (800-1099)
Intermediate (1100-1399)
Intermediate2 (1400-1699)
Advanced (1700-1999)
Expert (2000-2299)

>> No.34221442

>>34215716
That's what you get when you alienate local viewers and being a unityfag.

>> No.34221607

>>34221200
Kronii is stronger.

>> No.34221642

>>34221200
she knows the basic rules so shes already better than 99% of chuubas

>> No.34221754

>>34215716
she need a man. me.

>> No.34221829

>>34221405
Is her elo low due to decay and lack of play?
>>34221607
I doubt Kronii can play chess.
>>34221642
I saw on another thread that she beat some GMs

>> No.34221960

>>34221212
Quality over quantity? ah yes. another word to describe a lazy person

>> No.34222065

>>34215716
If she streamed more as Olivia her views would go full erect

>> No.34222147

>>34221829
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gr1oFPNkDU

>> No.34222258

>>34222147
I can't watch this. I'm working.

>> No.34223035

discussions of numbers outside of /#/ is next level of retarded, it's obvious you're all too stupid even for /#/

>> No.34223152

>>34216981
What kinda games do you like anon

>> No.34223768

>>34221829
No, ELO doesn't decay when you don't play. It goes up when you win and down when you lose (with the amounts it goes up and down by dictated by the ELO of your opponent) and does not change outside of that.

>> No.34223837

>>34221829
>Is her elo low due to decay and lack of play?
No her max ever is 521
>I saw on another thread that she beat some GMs
You have no fucking clue what you're talking about she couldn't beat a GM if she was sucking him off and holding a gun to his head at the same time.

>> No.34223938

>Rushes to collab with trash ecelebs right out of debut
There's no recovering from that.

>> No.34224139

>>34215716
Didn't meet the expectations of her debut.
Came across like someone who would do a mix of creative streams and weird random games that would interest her with the energy to match.
Instead she just became ID Matsuri, drifting lukewarm towards whatever fotm was on, favoring random collabs rather than building a strong unit with one or two people and swapping out sheer energy with low-brow coomerbait humor.
She's always going to be a 4th place vtuber if she always acts like a 4th place vtuber.

>> No.34224389

>>34215716
Is Hololive imposing metrics KPIs for their talent? (e.g. subscriber targets, etc.)

>> No.34225153

>>34223837
I saw someone on another thread say that she beat some underground chess masters

>> No.34225245

>>34225153
there is source from your own ass, and pretending the source is from someone else ass when you still have your hand deep in your own. Ollie is a baby chest player, she wouldn't even get in the top half of a -16 tournament. And yes all the streamer you saw playing chest would be more or less the same.

>> No.34225378

>>34219718
mass repliers deserve nothing less than the chair

>> No.34225426

>>34221325
>numberfag
when that shit happened, risu also complain about it. does that mean risu is also a numberfag?

>> No.34225427

>>34224389
Not as far as I know, but this is still a job and numbers are one of the few indicators of how "good" or appealing their content is, I think Bae mentioned something like that once, can't remember were

>> No.34225449

>>34220749
why watch a vod when there's a 90% chance there's a live stream happening?
use your brain

>> No.34225478

>>34225245
Well that's not what the guy on the other thread said.
He said she beat GM Ronald or something like that

>> No.34225490

>>34224389
except for shilling merch, i don't think so.

>> No.34226017

>>34215716
If one of these girls is consciously making controversial calls or consciously shitting on segments of fans but goes "pfft I don't care about the numbers at all go ahead and leave" it's like, well that's a stupid fucking idea but at least the attitude for it matches up.

If you're worried about numbers and also making moves against fans/major notions of what Hololive "should" be, that is very much having your cake and eating it too. Which for indos reading means you can't expect to get the best out of something (in this case her numbers) and not have to deal with any consequences, like making moves that hurt numbers.

She's been around for a little while now and we all "just know" how she is, I don't think she can turn the ship around really. The absolute most charitable thing you can say is she has the "dumb little sister who doesn't know what she's doing" vibe to cover but that doesn't mean it has 0 side effects, such as being suspected of dragging other girls into male collabs.

>> No.34226066

>>34225478
proof doko?
just gimmick again

>> No.34226131

>>34226066
GM Ronald mcdonald I think. I tried to look it up but didn't get any results.
But he did say this guy was an underground chess master so I'm not surprised he keeps a low profile.

>> No.34227633

>>34215716
But thats the key trait of westernized girls

>> No.34227736

>>34220663
AIEEEEEEEEEEE, RATIOCOPE CUMPEDO IS HERE!!!!!!!

>> No.34227804

People saw her ugly fat mug, and her views were dipping ever since.

>> No.34228352

>>34225153
Polka or Towa,... no just Lui is more than enough to wreck the retard zombie in any tabletop games

>> No.34228926

>>34215716
She's getting about the same numbers as her peers sans Kobo. The high sub count is because she was her generation's Kobo and the gen that debuted soon after HoloEN debut. I think she should focus on the viewers who stick with her, not the ones who naturally left. Diversifying her streams is good, yes, but I wouldn't fret too much unless money is a serious issue in which she can always jump ship and move on with her life.

>> No.34228962

>>34215716
This is Kronii's future

>> No.34229338

One reason people doompost so hard when they think a vtuber is going in the wrong direction is that they know the hard truth. Once the viewers start to go it's almost impossible to get them back. You could easily put yourself in a death spiral and not know it until it's too late. Thankfully hololive is one of the few places where recovery is possible, but it's still a long and hard road.

>> No.34229890

>>34223152
Eroge

>> No.34230013

>>34227804
Explain Polka, Koyori, Moona, Reine then?

>> No.34230042

>>34228962
We can only fucking wish.

>> No.34230074

>>34215716
Niji 3D deflection thread

>> No.34230118

>>34230013
Polka is just fat, dunno about Koyori, Moona and Reine are above mid, while zomkek is ugly even for indonesian standard

>> No.34230494

>>34230118
shes the ugliest in the group .
aside from anya , all ID members have been doxxed and they all are cutesy

>> No.34231116

>>34219115
>"I have come to terms with..."
>she doesn't care
sure...

>> No.34232221

>>34230494
if that's cute then boy i got some news for you

>> No.34232712

>>34230494
yes. reine is fat btw

>> No.34232832

>>34230494
they're all brown, smelly goblins. Only SEAfaggots would be attracted to them. That said I love them all except I*fi

>> No.34232935

It’s because she got exposed for being shashumga

>> No.34232975

>>34230494
Still would though.

>> No.34233026

>>34215716
"Be yourself" is the biggest lie, if you stream for yourself don't make it a business. Study your fucking audience and understand what they like, then stream properly without sacrificing your own happiness, is that so hard to understand?

>> No.34233046

>>34232712
even better

>> No.34233108

She'd get more views if she stopped playing lazy games and got more creative.
Playing the same fucking game all the time is a nerf, period, especially when you're not god-like at it. Personally don't watch her because she collabs with dudes, not the criteria I'm looking for.

>> No.34233168

>>34220162
Lmao, this retard doesn't know what an average is

>> No.34233230

>>34233026
Be the version of yourself while streaming that entrances the audience is a better mantra. That's the power of vtubing, you can always put your best foot forward.

>> No.34233243

Kobo>Ollie
Simple as
https://youtube.com/shorts/4MjahQ3-F6Q?feature=share

>> No.34238686

>>34228962
i pray

>> No.34239561

>>34216050
Thats true for the vast majority of streamers. Pewdiepie has 100 million subs and he gets like an average of 20k ccv. On a really really good day ive seen him get like 60k. And yet his video views still easily get 1 to 4 million views, which is still a low percentage compared to his subs. Turns out clicking "subscribe" is easier and takes less commitment/effort than actually showing up for the stream/video.

>> No.34239773

>>34216163
Na, /vt/ wants a specific kind of nice. One that complies with typical stereo types etc.

>> No.34244530

>>34215716
>>34215716
not my problem

>> No.34244656

>>34215716
Ollie is top twenty chuuba sovl when she's not playing games. Her creative and one-off streams are really good. But she does stream shit games. And credit where credit is due, she got a LOT less annoying in collabs and is generally a benefit in them now

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