Has the introduction of Holostars EN been a net negative for Hololive as a whole?

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Has the introduction of Holostars EN been a net negative for Hololive as a whole? Anonymous Mon Sep 26 06:38:30 2022 No.34044040 [Reply] [Original]

Say what you want about how entertaining they are but given the state of Hololive fanbase for the last couple of months have they done more harm than good?

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 06:45:25 2022 No.34044267

The main harm they've done is blindly accepting any and all of the EN girl's collabs without first focusing on themselves for a while. They did not think of how much it would divide the fanbases of each girl. BUT at the same time, the girls probably did know and went with it anyway and in fact initiated collab offers, so they're mostly the ones to blame for willingly stirring up the pot and making people mad on purpose. I assume the guys are just incapable of saying no because they hold the EN girls in high regard and up on a pedestal. In an alternate timeline, they hired 4 guys that all would have told Mori to go fuck herself with her attempts to be the first one and didn't collab with any other EN's for like at least two years. The type of autists that just wouldn't care about that type of thing, you know? those certainly exist, but sadly not in tempus.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 06:48:52 2022 No.34044389 >>34044040 They made this board very entertaining so I give them approval.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 07:35:09 2022 No.34045827 It's been really funny from an outsider's perspective that's for sure

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 07:36:35 2022 No.34045867

>>34044040
so far they haven't really hurt anything, other than failing themselves
Kronii fucked her own shit up, Mori is still Mori, and despite what people will shill relentlessly Ame's numbers are still the same so far
the conclusion is they were a massive waste of time and money and further shilling of them will start to harm the company and the other girls, they should be left alone for the rest of the year at the very least and realistically they should all be graduated within a year, the only one I see having any chance at all of success is Vesper

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 07:39:29 2022 No.34045937

>>34044040
they've done more harm here enough to let them live in your head rent-free and make you seethe just by collabing with the girls or even talking to them, only good things they did on youtube is that they actually stream more than the girls

sometimes i wonder if you're actually giving them exposure and letting the newfags watch them

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 07:42:34 2022 No.34046027 >>34044040 They destroyed HoloEN. Anyone still watching that shit is a gigacuck

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 07:43:04 2022 No.34046041 >>34044040 Made this entire board entertaining so no

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 07:43:56 2022 No.34046065 Yes. They are fucking trash and cannot stand on their own. They have only been a boon to dramanigger channels.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 07:48:33 2022 No.34046200 >>34046027 >destroyed HoloEN pfft

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 07:54:23 2022 No.34046362

>>34044040
The homo bring in collab beggars
The homo bring in woke audience
The homo bring in mix gender collab which everyone can do
The homo become collab machines, they do ot every week
The homo's fan hate traditional holo fan very much. They demand changes in women contents and insult everyone who refuse them. They couldn't give the number when their demand is answered.
EN become Niji 2.0
Before homo, everyone pull their own weight. After homo, the shark carry everyone and she's tired of it

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:00:06 2022 No.34046535 >>34044040 HolostarsJP should've been a red flag that they're going to do an EN one eventually. The fact these faggots thought it was never gonna happen are actually genuinely retarded. I was already prepared for it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:03:48 2022 No.34046639 >>34044040 Yes and I hope they keep doing it to make niggers in /vt/ seethe like monkey they are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:05:40 2022 No.34046698 Their existence isn't the problem, this forced co-ed integration is the problem. If they had been properly segregated like their JP senpai everything would have been fine. They would be doing better too, these collabs aren't actually helping them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:05:49 2022 No.34046703 >>34046027 >Destroyed HoloEn Bitch, they made HoloEN a bit more interesting. HoloEN without that boys is just stale and boring when they're not as fun as their JP senpais and energetic like their ID counterparts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:05:55 2022 No.34046707 >>34044040 It's a net negative. Their introduction alienated a lot of existing fans and ripped apart the fandom.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:09:51 2022 No.34046801 >>34046362 and then you awoke from your psychosis and realized it’s time to get help

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:30:49 2022 No.34047340 >>34044040 Well who brings in more money, the EN or JP streamers?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 08:36:36 2022 No.34047467 >>34044040 A lot of harm yes

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:08:25 2022 No.34048207 >>34046801 The only help I need is money. Send it to me

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:08:50 2022 No.34048217

>>34044040
I don't know about your reality but everyone I know still cares as much about hololive and vtubers as before. Only thing it did was make me use this board less because none of you are making an effort to appreciate whatever you get. When EN debuted it wasn't the right ones, and their designs were all bad, and they didn't stream enough, and the wrong games and never on time. The numbers are never high enough, be it hours or ccv. You care about their roomates and holidays just to say they don't care about Hololive. The purity test for ENs is the willingness to collab with a male even if said male lives on another continent but being horny for meat and ryona is fine because you are all so lonely and misunderstood and talking to a girl is hard :(
Say what you want, you will never be happy. You never wanted to be.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:10:49 2022 No.34048259 >>34044040 hmm gee i wonder. not that anyone watches them anyways.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:11:51 2022 No.34048292 >>34046703 Nice joke homobrony https://twitter.com/magnidezmond/status/1574315726449483776

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:17:31 2022 No.34048425 >>34048217 Oh boy you are the reason we can't have nice things The only good thing about this place is I can lurk and watch people roll in their own misery Not that anybody will take your word to heart but don't destroy my pastime

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:17:32 2022 No.34048426 >>34044040 I love Vesper, but if were talking about Holo in general... Yeah...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:24:27 2022 No.34048585 >>34048217 >You never wanted to be. That's the realiest part most of the chronically miserable people here are like this because they don't want to be anything but chronically miserable

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:31:12 2022 No.34048740
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>>34048585
Dunno about that. I'm enjoying myself plenty with Mikos streams. If an EN had the drive, passion and likability of Mikochi then I would have no complaints with EN.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:33:57 2022 No.34048807 >>34044040 I haven't watched a single Hololive since their debut.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 09:43:31 2022 No.34049083 >>34044040 No

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:26:48 2022 No.34050333 >>34044040 Do you think thing will calm down with the second gen?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:39:36 2022 No.34050721 >>34046362 Translated by deepL

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 10:40:44 2022 No.34050754 >>34046362 Go back to 5ch

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 11:09:24 2022 No.34051520

>>34048217
i'm op. I don't give a fuck about unicornfagging or anything. What i care about is the community being divided and it subsequently causing a lot of stress on the talents. If the the holostars weren't here none of this shit would've happened.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 11:15:39 2022 No.34051674

>>34046703
No, they really didn't. Their non-existent audience kinda proves it too, when they're not leeching off the girls. If I were them, I'd not even entertain collabs with the girls for like a year at minimum, so they can build a real audience and following of their own. I have news for you, the homobeggars looking to own teh incelz, on twitter/discord, wherever, aren't gonna actually stick around for them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 11:33:16 2022 No.34052163 >>34044040 my bros did nothing wrong, if your oshi (whore) interacted with them and that makes you chimp out that's not their fault

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 11:34:39 2022 No.34052206 >>34046027 based i literally stopped watching vtubers because of them, i won't finance some whores' condoms

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 11:36:55 2022 No.34052273 >>34048217 I'm plenty happy with holoJP, and before tempus hololive(except mori who was always shit). after they debuted everything went to shit.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 11:38:05 2022 No.34052312

>>34044040
I think it's not as bad as it could've been. Certainly not as cringey as Luxiem is.

I was expecting retardery like POGGERS POGGERS MUH DICK like you see with NijiEN males and their peepee poopoo zoomer faggotry.
But no, Tempus does pay some respect to the company's seiso image. They still banter and roast each other, yes, but thankfully they also don't go Full Degenerate with nonstop sex jokes like nijisanji does.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 11:38:36 2022 No.34052328 >>34051520 division within a community is an inevitability, in this case, if it wasn't for the ENhomos, it would be over something else.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 11:39:40 2022 No.34052367 >>34052328 >division within a community is an inevitability not really

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 11:39:40 2022 No.34052366 >>34046362 Learn English seanigger >>34050754 It's not a jap. It's some ugly brown seanigger that came from facebook. Japs don't give a shit about Tempus, the only HoloEN with a jp fanbase is Mori of all people.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 11:41:24 2022 No.34052429

>>34044040
The entire argument people had about their existence not being anything to fear, was that Stars doesn't run at all like how Nijisanji deals with its males freely encouraging shipping and coed stuff between its """livers""" ruining the cute girls atmosphere constantly.

Well, no, it turns out they don't run at all like StarsJP and management itself seems absolutely ready to fall on its sword sacrificing the girls as ship fodder... so they are in fact a big issue.

The funny thing is, before the collab ban was up and it was just a batch of hapless brotubers bro'ing it up? They were doing good and were about as well-received as one could possibly have hoped for an outcome, considering they were striking their own path not just trying to be major fujo bait and nothing more. After the collab ban was lifted and HoloEN collab spam started it both caused unnecessary drama with the girls and also, the dudes' numbers outside of those collabs have only been going down. Spamming collabs with the girls objectively isn't buffing them and only bringing in a contingent of twitter shitters who literally are there explicitly to spite people saying they don't like the idea and to cheer on the death of Hololive's idol culture. There's NOTHING good about that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 11:51:11 2022 No.34052771 >>34052328 inevitable my ass, the only thing that could cause this divide is homo collabs. Look at holo JP, stilll going strong.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 11:57:05 2022 No.34053034

>>34044040
literal cracking the girls into 2 factions, creating massive nonsense drama to push out weirdos while didnt bring in any good numbers in returns. id say harm as harm can be. but they cant be blame for being stupid enough to be used by mori to carry her to her so called "winner winner chicken dinner"

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:02:38 2022 No.34053268 >>34052328 t. omega

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:03:54 2022 No.34053327 >>34044040 No. They're fun and professional, and the Hololive fanbase needs to grow up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:06:10 2022 No.34053422 >>34046703 Holy shit you’re dumb

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:06:47 2022 No.34053445

>>34052429
I've been wondering ever since this drama started, if StarsEN had a 6-month or year-long ban on Stars/Live collabs, would things be improved at all? Or would that have just kicked the can down the road? Was this the inevitable result of StarsEN, or just management continuing to be incompetent?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:07:35 2022 No.34053482 >>34053327 So you're saying the endless harassment that the HoloEN girls are getting about the homos a good thing? Please explain.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:08:40 2022 No.34053523 New faces definetly bring a breath of fresh air to the company, so it is a positive from me.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:09:11 2022 No.34053545

>>34052429
>before the collab ban was up and it was just a batch of hapless brotubers bro'ing it up? They were doing good and were about as well-received as one could possibly have hoped for an outcome,
I actually watched them during that period. They've dropped the ball hard since then. Cross gender collabs are bad (I'm not an unicorn but seriously they're so cringe) but they've done worse solo too. Vesper is the only one at least somewhat holding it together but they all need to stop wasting time with Mori and start improving on their solo streams YESTERDAY. It'll be better for both fanbases.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:11:13 2022 No.34053623 >>34053445 It is management's fault, and in a way inevitable since we know how incompetent they are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:11:37 2022 No.34053640 >>34052429 I remember arguing with people before tempiss existance, that just because StarsJP act one way, doesn't mean StarsEN will act the same. They for some reason didn't undestand difference between west and japan.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:15:17 2022 No.34053771

>>34044040
Not only to the fanbase, but to the EN branch as well thanks to a certain retarded manager not realizing that forcing (or "encouraging") collabs with people who don't want to do them is retarded, which led to multiple factions being formed. And given how much they flopped in spite of all the "encouraged" collabs, I doubt said manager will ever give up on making his dream team reach the top spot.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:16:48 2022 No.34053825

>>34053640
Honestly it's not even about the differences between starsJP and Tempus only. It's also about the girls. Unspoken rules worked in Japan but in the west you need everything written down and actively enforced. Without the rules clear this would had been the result even if Tempus had literal clones of starsJP members.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:21:35 2022 No.34053999 >>34053623 It's management's fault either way. I'm just wondering if the only intervention necessary was the bare-minimum that they should have done anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:22:53 2022 No.34054046 >>34052312 tempus doesn't go peepee poopoo most of the time, bu they still have faggy undertones, joking about fucking other guys and giving indirect kisses to each other by eating the same burger. Stuff no straight guy would ever think up.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:26:05 2022 No.34054143
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>>34048425
I agree, this is now a zoo. And I am pissed because it doesn't have to be. I know people here start shit on purpose. I know people like you lurk around for teh lulz and love how brainrotten the average catalogposter is. I can't blame you, lolcows have been a concept long before the internet.
But my hobby, the nice thing I had, was talking about how good my oshi is and what I love about her and what I am looking forward to. Not here anymore though.
>>34052273
No, people always hated everyone. Kiara for interacting with other corpos and being too rude to her colleagues. Mori for being too OOC and being rude too her fans. Ame for breaking promises and abandoning stream ideas. Gura for ghosting and not doing enough with her numbers. Ina for being a nepotism hire and boring. All of them for being someone else in the past instead of an undoxxable 16 year old with a perfect voice, 12 hour stream endurance, an intact hymen and a dream.
Even back then people drew lines in the sand about male collabs and the potential of some of them talking to males on twitter, or offstream. It's just that roomateposting doesn't get a rise out of people here anymore, fewer people were around for the first few months and most ENs improved as streamers while walking back on other things.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:26:49 2022 No.34054170

>>34053445
That would have still caused screeching from the homo supporting elements and concern from those who aren't homobeggars or unicorns but largely uninterested in the middle, unless it was a specific policy mentioned outright. It would still be screeched about then, but people would have a statement to point to. I think overall there would be less fanbase fighting in that case.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:27:36 2022 No.34054196 >>34044040 Yes

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:29:13 2022 No.34054250 File: 381 KB, 2048x1807, 1659368796086971.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34053523 this

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:31:21 2022 No.34054325 Blaming the boys for Omega's faggotry and HoloEN's whorishness is lame and gay. It's like blaming the main branch homos when Matsuri starts whispering about chinpo and manko.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:42:43 2022 No.34054717

>>34054143
You're way off mark if you come to any 4chan hobbyist board to discuss that hobby. You might as well try to talk about videogames on /v/. This entire place exists for retards to fling shit at each other while a crowd watches for their enjoyment. Go actually discuss vtubers elsewhere. This place doesn't deserve an actual fan.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 12:44:12 2022 No.34054772 [DELETED]

>>34054325
>hey, do you want to collab?
>sorry, I want a bit more time to work on my carreer.
>HOLY POGGERS LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOO
Which one is the sensible and more intelligent answer? Please take in mind how poorly Collabus is doing these days before answering.
Then again, given how they're under direct management from Omega, I doubt refusing to collab was ever an option. The faggot even went as far as shortening the collab ban for them in particular because they weren't reaching 10 million subs every week, that pronoun creature is a total nutjob.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 13:13:57 2022 No.34055730

>>34044040
From a purely business standpoint, yes. The co-ed collabs have caused a lot of drama which wouldn't strictly be bad on its own if Tempus was inclining because of it, but they're not. They've failed to deliver sufficient return in netting viewer interest in spite of the cost, but they're probably still profitable for the time being.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 13:29:51 2022 No.34056215 >>34044040 from what i've seen they're mostly boring as fuck so yeah. All they did was cause an insane amount of drama for almost zero return. Filtering out unicorns should be a good thing but they all turned into the worst of antis.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:00:48 2022 No.34057158

>>34044040
As someone that despises male vtubers and the very idea of my oshi collabing with them, I actually would say they haven't really done much harm at all except for what the anon in >>34044267 said. The one at fault for the current shitfest, though, is Kronii.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:04:42 2022 No.34057286

honestly speaking, atm it's more a net neutral.
other than /here/ viewership for the girls hasn't significantly changed, and now there's more talents that can potentially grab new viewers.
it's like with HoloID first generation - they didn't grab many new viewers at first, but their impact has been net positive considering it lead to kobo and also pochi being close to hololive.
in the same vain, Holostars EN first step might be a small one, but it'll most likely open new avenues that'll avalanche into better things down the road

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:12:51 2022 No.34057556

Positives:
-They expanded the box. Got new blood or at least former dead subs watching them. Vesper sustained around +2k people overlapping Kiara's AmongUs collab.
- At this point they are a "pseudo EN3". Which is very helpful for those talents that perform better in a collab or those that don't get along with their coworkers.
Negatives:
- An insignificant amount of "angry people" got their feelings hort. Not even 100 members/viewers combined across the whole EN branch. Most already moved on to their new safe space, and will keep doing that as they have 0 spine and should be bullied for the rest of their lives until they learn to be normal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:18:23 2022 No.34057755 >>34057556 neck yourself, homobeggar

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:21:25 2022 No.34057854 >>34054046 >Stuff no straight guy would ever think up. You obviously have no male friends then, joking about doing gay shit with your bros is something all straight guys do

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:23:44 2022 No.34057917 >>34044267 i thought the homos were the beggars and youre saying the girls are the beggars.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:27:28 2022 No.34058033

>>34044267
The main issue is that unlike JP, ENstars don't and won't have the same depth of non-hololive collab partners with nijiEN being banned and most indies/small corpos not wanting to deal with the schizos. For the time being they're stuck with hololive and friends from their past lives willing to take the heat

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:40:27 2022 No.34058456 >>34044040 Yagoo is happy with his bros. That's all that matters.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 14:51:23 2022 No.34058802 >>34044040 Tempus is a malignant tumor. Their existence has hurt Ame and Kronii and helped absolutely no one. >>34058456 Yagoo probably has no idea what's going on with them.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 15:04:38 2022 No.34059226

>>34057556
>An insignificant amount of "angry people" got their feelings hort
>insignificant
I don't believe Kronii's solo streams have been able to hit 10k ccv since her Tempus meltdown
>Not even 100 members/viewers combined across the whole EN branch
>Source: I made it up
The loss of viewers, memberships, and superchat revenue is going to be immense when this is all over.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 15:05:08 2022 No.34059242

I like 'em, and the way they talk on stream it sounds like gen 2 is more of a "when" than an "if". That makes me pretty happy as someone who wanted to be in Tempus but didn't apply. I was just too inexperienced earlier this year, but I'll probably apply soon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 15:05:22 2022 No.34059254 >>34057854 Sorry you have to learn it in the internet, but no, no straight male friend joke about gay shit. It only mean you are the only non-faggot in your group, and that you probably already lost your anal virginity without even knowing about it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 15:06:50 2022 No.34059311 >>34044040 It's been a negative for the EN girls, but a success otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 15:10:45 2022 No.34059451 >>34044040 Positive because they exposed the whores for who they are. Now you know which girl is on your side and you can drop the (blatantly) cock hungry ones

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 15:12:33 2022 No.34059504 >>34044040 Net positive for hololive, net negative for /vt/

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 15:18:48 2022 No.34059749 >>34044040 i'm sure they're nice people but things were honestly better before they came. Now this place is just a drama cesspool.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 15:23:13 2022 No.34059944 >>34058456 Is he though? StarsJP is his favourite branch and I don't see how they gain from this drama.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 15:23:13 2022 No.34059946 >>34059504 >Net positive for hololive Explain how. It can be argued that Tempus is an extra revenue stream but that's overshadowed by the damage they're doing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 15:24:45 2022 No.34060005 >>34059946 >by the damage they're doing a handful of beggar supas and this board having a series of meltdowns that don't even meme well is hardly 'damage'

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 15:26:29 2022 No.34060064 >>34060005 Watch the girls. They haven't been doing well at all, since Tempus debuted. The only girls who seem to be happy are Mori and Mumei atm.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 15:32:15 2022 No.34060280 I'm just glad that they showed that the whole "if the stars had more female collabs they would be equally succesful as the girls" bullshit failed, the numbers didn't changed at all some of them can even be 3 views for like 30 minutes

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 15:38:37 2022 No.34060522

>>34060005
Tempus directly lead to Kronii having a menhera episode and going on a break. She's so unhinged after coming back that she's sexualizing dogs. Which is funny but it's absurd to pretend this hasn't taken a toll on her. She's currently engaged in a full blown self-destruction arc and it's all because of Tempus. Ame is also self-destructing but she isn't quite going balls to the wall like Kronii is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 17:31:16 2022 No.34064721 >>34044040 Tempus does not in fact matter as much as this board makes it out to be.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 17:54:20 2022 No.34065568
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>>34059226
since she came back from the dentist:
- Had her most superchated gaming stream ever.
- Her last stream (Vesper collab) had x2 the usual vod views.
- Has been dominating council clips for an entire week with her menhera skits.
If you are going to lie try to make it so that the lie at least resists a simple data check.
Success truly breeds jealousy

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:03:48 2022 No.34065931 File: 36 KB, 948x306, Tempest.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34044040 yes, we have received tons of dramanigger tourists and shitstirrers

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:08:58 2022 No.34066123 >>34060522 How is that anything but her schizo fans fault? The fans she's actively trying to filter out like >>34065796 Schizo fan actively attacking other girls because he couldn't have his way? Disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:11:05 2022 No.34066208 >>34044040 theyve added literally nothing of value, no

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:13:32 2022 No.34066315 >>34058802 >Yagoo probably has no idea He really believes this. From Yagoo, of all people.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:16:11 2022 No.34066433 We've been over this multiple times. Net positive. The EN boys actually stream, streams make money. Next question.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:16:24 2022 No.34066444 >>34058802 >Yagoo has no idea >Yagoo plays mario kart with them Yeah anon he totally has no idea

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:17:40 2022 No.34066501

>>34057854
Last straight white male here
No we absolutely do not joke about gay shit. Usually we talk about life or work on a project together. Sometimes we talk about women but not always.
It never comes up other than to complain about seeing gay shit so much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:19:27 2022 No.34066580 >>34044040 No, it just split the Hololive fanbase which is a bad idea having fans fight among each other

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:22:41 2022 No.34066697 >>34046362 This. Objectively and obviously true. >>34046801 Join the 51%.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:24:21 2022 No.34066755 >>34044040 this shouldn't even be asked anymore. it was obvious from the beginning they would be a net negative and everything that has happened since has proven this fact

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:28:15 2022 No.34066889

>>34066755
>Everything that has happened

Like what? A few tards acting like idiots outside of this place? Tempus has not caused as nearly as big of an issue as some of you guys think. If anything they've made stream interactions more interesting and this place a lot funnier.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:31:14 2022 No.34067002

They have done more harm than good. If they pandered to the male vtuber market, it'd be fine. Instead, they and holoEN are retarded and, unlike holoJP, don't know how to deal with there being a male and a female branch. It's still not nearly as bad as the dumpster fire that is nijisanji, but it's slowly inching closer to it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:33:45 2022 No.34067095 Can we really call Tempus men though? All they've been doing is relying on women to carry them. Pfahahaha. They call themselves Tempus because of how often they wet their little baby diapers. Keeps Kronii and Ame busy. It's entertainment. I guess.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:34:37 2022 No.34067130 LITERALLY THE DOWNFALL OF WESTERN VTUBING AND THE END OF THE UNICORN ERA >Have done a handful of mid to funny collabs with girls >Mostly collab with each other, they stream almost every day every day >That’s it

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:34:48 2022 No.34067137 >>34044040 given how many annoying people Tempus has brought in, I don't see how they've been a good addition

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:35:47 2022 No.34067177 >>34066889 There's seriously no reasoning with these people. I've lost track of how many times this exact thread has been made; same OP image and everything. This is the actual hobby for them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:37:30 2022 No.34067233 >>34066889 >>34067177 stop samefagging, retard. nobody wants to watch your m*les

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:38:39 2022 No.34067280 >>34067233 I'm only the second guy. You're not very good at shitposting, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:38:43 2022 No.34067283 >>34067130 >displace some of your consumers >implying they just disappear into thin air instead of going to another supplier of the same product

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:41:37 2022 No.34067404 I don't see anyone but literal niji discord trannies defend Tempus.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:46:06 2022 No.34067538
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i don't care for the homos, i think they're okay members

what I have an issue for is this stupid idea of needing collabs for everyone. its not good at all. homo begging collabs is not fun at all, especially when you see kronii losing her shit because of this crap.

i.e i don't care

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:47:08 2022 No.34067574 >>34067404 Because no one cares enough, the real tempus viewers either don't frequent here or they're all in their generals watching streams and those that aren't are resident shitposters or those that wander off of their general from time to time.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:48:41 2022 No.34067620
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After all the shilling by yagoo, sora and a chan
After all the reditroons "supporting" them
After all the collabs
After killing one of the most successful branch of hololive
This is the best they can do, and homobeggars claim that unicorns are the loud minority

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:50:27 2022 No.34067671 >>34067620 it all just doesn't feel natural: you didn't create a new audience, you just made a new cluster for them.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:51:33 2022 No.34067712

>>34067574
>the biggest argument people have is KEK KEK KEK KEK KEK YOU’RE A KEK HOLOKEK KEK
Tempus fans just stay in their general and watch streams together, if you see a dumbass thread about male collabs being the future or whatever it’s almost certainly bait.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:52:02 2022 No.34067730

>>34066889
>Tempus has not caused as nearly as big of an issue as some of you guys think
>Magni collabing with an openly racist loon
>Tempus trying to bring e-celeb twitch cancer into the fold
>No respect whatsoever for Hololive
>Ame losing her mind
>Kronii losing her mind
>Hololive reddit on lockdown
Even if this shitshow results in one or more Holos graduating because they can't handle the drama I'm sure you'll downplay it as "not a big deal".

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:52:31 2022 No.34067748

>>34044040
Yes. The males have destroyed Hololive's prestige and brand and the collabs destroyed chuubas who had them. I'm completely disconnected from Hololive because of them and I'm not giving this retarded company my views or money, or any attention whatsoever. They completely failed their audience and used us to grow before shitting on us. The whole EN management isn't just incompetent, they're actively against everything that made HoloEN worth watching.

Maletubers are a disease, and so is Mori.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 18:53:51 2022 No.34067799 File: 102 KB, 883x866, whatstheproblem.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34067620 I don't see the problem >>34067712 That's exactly what I said.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:02:57 2022 No.34068115

>>34067730
Half of those you mentioned is your own bias anon. "Losing their mind" lmao, is that what you like to call it? And I genuinely don't give a fuck about the e-celeb shit, doubt many people do.

And the "no respect for Hololive" shit is some straight grade A bullshit, holy fuck. You shit talk the boys without knowing what actually goes on in their streams. Kiss my ass.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:05:40 2022 No.34068215 >>34067730 >>Ame losing her mind when is that not the case? and the reddit has been under fire for a year. just saying. i don't even use reddit and I can tell you that

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:08:11 2022 No.34068300 >>34067730 >Ame losing her mind >Kronii losing her mind Why don’t you believe in personal autonomy anon? Or do you really think the girls are that fucking weak and can’t make their own choices?

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:09:06 2022 No.34068325

>>34068115
>Half of those you mentioned is your own bias anon.
Incorrect.
>"Losing their mind" lmao, is that what you like to call it?
What would you call it when a Holo tells her own fans to stop watching her or denounces the idol culture that makes Hololive what it is or goes on a break because she can't take the drama?
>And the "no respect for Hololive" shit is some straight grade A bullshit, holy fuck.
If they respected Hololive they wouldn't be trying to tear it down and water it down with outside culture.
>Kiss my ass.
You seem upset. Did I touch a nerve?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:11:01 2022 No.34068374 >>34046362 I actually agree with the first 2 points

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:12:17 2022 No.34068413 >>34051520 The girls, especially Myth, already seemed annoyed with each other. Now the girls feeling pressured into collabs they don't want is building more resentment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:15:19 2022 No.34068538 >>34068325 What would I call that? I'd call that tardwrangling, something that's severely needed sometimes. If you genuinely believe the stretches that come out of your mind, that's your own problem to deal with. I can't help stupid, or the stubborn.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:16:36 2022 No.34068593 >>34068300 Tempus is the reason why Ame and Kronii are currently in the process of torching their own careers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:19:50 2022 No.34068723 >>34068593 >He says while both are doing just fine

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:20:06 2022 No.34068728

>>34048217
What if I want to enjoy cute girls doing cute things because that's what I enjoy, what if I dislike twitch-lover normalfags like magni the same way I dislike anitubers
Doesn't mean I hate them or waste all my time thinking about them; but I have the right to complain when my hobby is being destroyed by people who never took the time to understand it and just want another reason to be moralfags on twitter and label anyone who disagrees with them as an incel
You're fucking low, you're not a good person, you're not smart, you're not better than anyone here; you still fighting over something you don't understand because it makes you feel bettet about yourself

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:20:40 2022 No.34068750 >>34044040 Yes. Hololive was better off without them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:21:02 2022 No.34068759 >>34068538 >Implying tardwrangling is telling your own viewers to stop watching you >Implying tardwrangling is having a menhera breakdown over the fallout of collabing with Tempus I see you're retarded. Might I interest you in some wrangling?

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:23:46 2022 No.34068855

>>34044040
Why are Tempus like this?
Why can't they develop their own starsEN brand?
Why do they need to leech on holoEN?
Why do they need to collab outside of Tempus so constantly?
>must collab outside to incline
Myth was doing really great without these disgusting collabs.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:25:10 2022 No.34068903

>>34068115
>And the "no respect for Hololive" shit is some straight grade A bullshit
There should be no males in Hololive. Their mere existence is an insult to Hololive.

It all boils down to this in the end - there is no place for maletubers in Hololive, and I'm not watching them, any collabs with them OR the girls who collabed or collab with them. It's that simple. They are the filter, but unlike an actual filter that keeps impurities out they're like a sewage pipe spewing shit into Hololive and vtubing as a whole. And on top of that we must never forget that it was Mori who was the first valve in this shit ecosystem, she was the entry point for all kinds of bullshit. She was and remains an unsolved problem and a liability in Hololive. Tempus is like a black hole that sucked in chuubas who might've had a future, theoretically. I say theoretically because girls like Kroni, Ame, Mori and Bea shouldn't even be in Hololive. They betrayed the very essence of HoloEN - idols in a language we can understand. It's obvious they don't have what it takes to be great. They're just general streamers, and as such they have no purpose or meaning in HoloEN, because every male-collabing general streamer is by definition low effort shit. Only idols count because it takes effort and skill to be an idol. Everything beyond (beneath) that is meaningless and unwatchable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:25:25 2022 No.34068916 File: 14 KB, 275x183, just fine.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34068723 >He says while both are doing just fine

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:27:02 2022 No.34068983 >>34068903 Holy based

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:28:04 2022 No.34069020 >>34068903 No one is reading your schizo post. But by all means, keep seething.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:29:38 2022 No.34069077 >>34057917 Last I checked HomoBeggars doesn't refer to the Tempus males. It refers to the retarded assholes who spam the females about male collabs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:30:16 2022 No.34069105 >>34053445 Both, there would still be drama, but a lot less.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:31:16 2022 No.34069141 >>34069020 Look up I read his post and he is based get rekt

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 19:35:09 2022 No.34069281

>>34065568
That's what always happens. Don't get a justice boner dude.

When Aki was at an all-time low and a clipper raised attention, she suddenly shot up in numbers and it didn't stay that way. Kronii was the main talking point of Twitter and Reddit for multiple days following the Tempus drama (that she created and raised attention towards while the other girls just moved on like she should have) and then decided to take a break which only further fueled people's justice boners to go and watch her.

It won't last. Also, numbers mean nothing, ad-sense is insignificant in comparison to donations and memberships. We'll only truly be able to tell if Kronii made a mistake around 1-2-3 months from now when the situation has settled, until then you can't convince me that people aren't intentionally watching her content just to feel like Heroes who save the poor damsel from the evil incels. It happened with Coco, it happened with Aloe, it happened with literally every single talent including Sana.
When drama happens, the HoloCucks unite to pretend that they care about the talent until a week later (sometimes even just days) when they move on and don't give a shit anymore.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 20:02:33 2022 No.34070216 >>34069020 Why is it that actual schizos like you, who obsessively spend their time on a forum about a hobby they hate, love to keep calling others schizo? Is it projection?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 21:42:14 2022 No.34073713 >>34068903 >There should be no males in Hololive There are none, they're in Holostars. Holostars is not Hololive, Hololive is not Holostars.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 21:44:30 2022 No.34073802 File: 18 KB, 342x319, 1638215275797.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34068903 I kneel.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 21:47:28 2022 No.34073919

>>34069281
>It won't last
You know, with how this works they're going to get a girl that fucks up massively and realizes she fucked up when her "support" tapers off. Then she'll realize she gets support when she's the "victim" of some drama and start trying to play that up and manufacture drama again and again to try to salvage her sinking channel. Kronii even seems like the type to do it if she's smart enough to realize the cycle.

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Anonymous Mon Sep 26 21:58:41 2022 No.34074350

>>34044040
Holostars EN would have been a fine addition if they worked like Holostars JP, staying on their lane.

But they stirred the pot with collabs, now its a shitshow. I can only blame those who extended their hands first. Hopefully gen3 and beyond take the hint.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 22:00:05 2022 No.34074414 >>34074350 Let's be honest, it would have been a shit show no matter what they did, just like StarsJP. >StarsJP wasn't a sh- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv74pMZTLPk

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 22:05:51 2022 No.34074649 >>34068903 Based idolchad

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 22:08:29 2022 No.34074795 >>34074350 Yeah, they should be like stars JP and not only collab with their same language branch semi regularly, but also niji, tsunderia, phase, and a million random indies

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 22:09:17 2022 No.34074832

>>34048217
I’m, like, 75% in agreement with you on all this. That said, I will say that in my friend group, HoloEN has fallen off somewhat in favor of Niji and indies. It’s because they really don’t have that much chemistry and there really has been a lot of stagnation and dead air.
For as much as people like to shit on Niji, they did a lot of things right. I unironically think their best decision was mostly hiring in Canada to start off. Over 60% of Canadians live in just two provinces. And based on how much of NijiEN is fluent in French, they were smart enough to largely hire from those two.
Meanwhile, out of HoloEN’s two Canadians, only Kronii is from the part of Canada most Canadians live. Ina’s from BC. So even there Holo fucked up. I’m not even sure if there are two HoloEN members who live within driving distance of each other…

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 22:09:44 2022 No.34074863

>>34074414
EN is much less hostile to dudes than JP is though, this entire shit show has been caused by them not staying in their lane and they probably wouldn't have any problems or hate to speak of at all if they'd been a bit more intelligent with their actions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 22:25:47 2022 No.34075659 >>34044040 It made /vt/ a lot less tolerable, but I think they're responsible for a lot of entertaining content.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 22:38:14 2022 No.34076268 Tempus gave us the management-mandated Pico Park collab so that's good enough for me.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:05:57 2022 No.34077578

>>34074863
History repeats itself, you can have your what if scenario's in your head but there's already precedent of StarsJP being shat on for merely existing and doing absolutely nothing related to HoloJP.
The same thing would have happened to StarsEN, got shat on for merely existing.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:06:41 2022 No.34077626

>>34069281
>(Aki stuff) didn't stay that way.
Lies. People stayed with Aki. Aki said she was saved by the support.

> she created and raised attention
Kronii is a fucking genius. She's enjoying a massive incline at the expense of the worst part of her fanbase. It's a win-win-win scenario.

>numbers mean nothing
too bad they do.

>ad-sense is insignificant in comparison to donations and memberships.
wtf, let alone ad-sense, all streaming money is insignificant compared to merch and sponsors. Data from Niji shows that a single 2hr sponsored deal is worth anything from 20 to 40 days of streaming income. Merch is similarly insane but involves risk/investment.
oh, don't tell me you though that unicorn

>3 months from now
Move the goalpost all you want.
Meanwhile Kronii will be laughing the loudest she's has ever laughed and I'll be enjoying the kino.

>pretend that they care about the talent until a week later
Towa got saved when she started. LTS until JP forgave her.
Triangle is prime example of LTS. She's now one of the biggest indies in the scene.
Coco was saved so hard that Hololive itself got saved when they discarded the entire Chinese market. She's leading VShoujo NEXT now

Reality does not follow your delusions and your narratives.
You'll forever be bullied until you learn how to behave normally.

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:15:31 2022 No.34078203

>>34077578
By who? /vt/? This places attention span's too short, people would mock them a little bit /here/ after their debut, most not even doing it to their faces on twitter or youtube, then move on after Mori fucks up again, Gura doesn't stream for x amount of time, or Kiara does literally anything. If anything I'd imagine the most harassment would come from the nijis, saying as there's precedent their talents mock lower numbers, Luxiem's fans almost certainly would love to mock something lower than their dudes. You're on crack if you actually think the same thing would have happened, or are severely underestimating what happened to flower.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:17:15 2022 No.34078318 File: 32 KB, 112x112, 1658858303969849.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34044040 Vesper is the only person in EN that has an actual personality so i couldnt care less what happens to the rest of them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:20:36 2022 No.34078530 >>34044267 Fuck Mori that fat wigger bitch

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:23:16 2022 No.34078680 >>34044040 Legitimately the worst thing to happen to Hololive since permissions autism

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:24:10 2022 No.34078741

>>34057158
literally this whole stupid shit show is because kronii was fucking retarded and not transparent. if he had just done what she wanted and not talked about LE IDOL CULTURE BAD and talked down to her viewers about their insecurities, NOBODY WOULD GIVE A SHIT OUTSIDE OF /VT/, and even then it would have died down after a few days. kronii is fucking retarded and i hate her for making this place unusable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:25:52 2022 No.34078856 >>34068903 they are not in hololive. they have never once CLAIMED to be in hololive. they are in holostars and holopro. holy schizo take YOUR FUCKING MEDS.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:27:44 2022 No.34078960 >>34045867 how are they a failure when vesper said their expectations were being 2views?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:31:46 2022 No.34079210 >>34046707 It really didn't. It only "ripped apart" catalogue. Just fueled the constant warground of dramafagging on this site. And if Tempiss didn't exist, they'd dramafag over something else anyways.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:32:14 2022 No.34079247 Nah, the collab going on right now is great They're pretty entertaining dudes, not insufferable faggots like Vox and Mysta

Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:32:46 2022 No.34079281

>>34077578
You're memory holing the first few weeks when they weren't allowed to collab yet. The reception was warm, people sympathized with them for being in an underdog position and having shitty models and made a ton of memes. The only negativity came from doomposters saying that they would collabs with the girls once the bad was lifted. And it turns out they were right.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:33:09 2022 No.34079307 >>34068903 based purity defender

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:35:36 2022 No.34079448 >>34051520 you hate division, so you create more division with a drama whore bait thread? sasuga nigger-kun

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:44:41 2022 No.34079978 >>34044040 >net negative for Hololive as a whole? No. Hololive's main branch has been very strong lately. There has been no negative impact.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 26 23:59:47 2022 No.34080921 >>34068903 based everything boils down to mori, it's her fault

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:07:41 2022 No.34081399 >>34078680 >THEY ARE NOT FEMALE REEEEEEEEE

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:21:04 2022 No.34082145 >>34054717 You're way off the mark if you think /vt/ and /v/ are representative of all boards. Those are two of the worst boards on this site.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:33:04 2022 No.34082840 >>34079448 Drama doesn't create more division. Once divided it stays divided unless the problem that caused the division is solved. The drama may even help to solve the problem in certain cases.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 00:58:54 2022 No.34084187 >>34082840 sure it does anon, sure it does

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 01:45:11 2022 No.34086352 >>34046027 You can't destroy something that's already destroyed

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 02:06:50 2022 No.34087349 >>34066501 But anon you don't have friends...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 02:11:21 2022 No.34087569 >>34058033 >ENstars don't and won't have the same depth of non-hololive collab partners with nijiEN being banned Anon when Magni collabs with his old twitch friends he still gets hate for it

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 02:12:26 2022 No.34087630 >>34044267 fpbp

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 02:13:06 2022 No.34087663 >>34046027 Based, JP is the only branch that matters

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 02:14:00 2022 No.34087707 >>34045867 You don't know shit, by Holostars standards they're as successful as myth was.

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 02:30:30 2022 No.34088478
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>>34087349
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WOjp0zfez4
I feel exposed, but I'll concede. Being openly antagonistic to the entire world to does have consequences.
Someone has to be the villain!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 02:33:52 2022 No.34088656 >>34044040 Given how well they're doing compared to JP, a new gen will probaly debut soon, maybe with more people in their branch they can collab with each other and leave HoloEN alone.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 03:32:16 2022 No.34091461 >>34044040 Should have tried harder to make it on their own first

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 04:03:24 2022 No.34092929 Vesper is the only western Cover vtuber that I like so I'm good

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 04:15:20 2022 No.34093404 >>34068903 Based. I kneel king

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 05:00:19 2022 No.34095393 File: 138 KB, 592x822, truestory.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>34068903 Turbo based. HoloEN is diseased. Rotten to the core. There's no saving it - we need to pull it out by the roots. Wipe the slate clean. BURN IT DOWN!

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 05:06:44 2022 No.34095749

>>34068903
this. some bitter anons trash talked gura but she has what it takes to shine bright like a diamond in this company
can sing in both JP and EN to placate all the parties
both of her original songs are bangers and successful
can dance and definitely is going to be able to pick up advanced choreography soon
has a decades old experience with voice acting and thus had the balls to commission a short animation entirely based on her idea
all of these while still being an excellent streamers and receiving no support from Cover

fucking "Just Chatting #198" and "Cross-branch Collaboration ft. OfflineTV and random vtubers" ain't gonna bring any value to Hololive

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 05:53:22 2022 No.34098132 >>34044267 fpbp

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 06:02:08 2022 No.34098540 >>34044040 If they didn't force collabs with the girls I would have seriously liked them, but every other stream from them is a collab and I'm just burnt out

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 06:03:10 2022 No.34098586 >>34046801 Everything he said is factual, come up with an actual counterpoint

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 06:10:46 2022 No.34098991 >>34044040 I don't care about the cross collabs. I'm moreso dissapointed in how uninteresing they all are with the exception of Vesper.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 06:29:02 2022 No.34100075 >>34052312 >Full Degenerate he doesn't know

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 08:01:26 2022 No.34103949 >>34098540 They missed the opportunity to be like Holostars JP. The collabs between Hololive JP and Holostars JP are absolutely marginal. That's how it was supposed to be, but they totally failed to understand it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 09:23:01 2022 No.34106139 >>34078318 Older Vtubers seem to be less cookie-cutter than their younger peer

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 09:44:47 2022 No.34106717 >>34095749 Gura is such an angel. Her 3D LIVE made me cry tears of happiness.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 10:35:03 2022 No.34107929 >>34044040 I personally don’t mind them, but I’ll be honest the vibe feels different. I honestly miss when it was just MYTH despite how much I love fauna.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 10:38:22 2022 No.34108014 >>34107929 IRyS was a very solid addition. She's almost at the HoloJP level.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 10:41:56 2022 No.34108113 The homos are good and you will like it when they have sex with your oshi.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 10:54:27 2022 No.34108436 >>34108113 >[he] do you want a quick death or a beautiful death? >[me] a quick death >[he] no, you're going to have a beautiful death...and I'm going to make sure it's a beautiful death. You are a good guy, Anon. You are the merciful one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 11:22:16 2022 No.34109140 >>34067620 what the fuck, still lower than nijicucks

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 12:05:19 2022 No.34110507 >>34044040 >the last couple of months have they done more harm than good prove it

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 12:14:22 2022 No.34110828 >>34077626 The abnormal level of obsession about being normal is so immature and naive i can't believe the one who wrote that shit is 18+.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 12:36:05 2022 No.34111640 how the fuck is getting cucked on stream even normal lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 13:34:30 2022 No.34113701 >>34044040 HoloEN was basically dead anyway

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 13:55:48 2022 No.34114301 >>34110828 "Behaving normally" it's a much simpler way to refer to the need to behave in a way that they fit within 2 standard deviations of the "mean behaviour". Immaturity is precisely the one single problem they have in their lives.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 27 13:59:30 2022 No.34114395 >>34074832 ඞ

Anonymous Tue Sep 27 14:52:41 2022 No.34116344
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>>34078741
It's pretty damning. An anon in another thread told me that she even had an unarchived member stream where she talked about this and how she purposely hid her involvement with the collab and prayed it'd just pass. She's definitely not all up there mentally if she knew she couldn't handle the backlash yet decided to outright make a public statement saying she's going to collab with the guys (all while trying to say "anyone she wants" in the tweet to supposedly mitigate the potential backlash she would have got for saying "the guys" but look at what happened with that). She really isn't bright. But hey subway sandwich right?

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