/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw you see the current state of EN after almost graduating because a male voice was heard in the background of one of your early streams

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>>33839229
you mean how she immediately got immense support from the EN audience, just like how they are supporting male collabs in EN now? Surprise doko?

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Are you seriously trying to conflate two coworkers collaborating through the internet and a male being literally right next to the idol talent inside her home

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>>33839347
>right next to the idol talent

[Anonymous No.]

Context for newfags
https://files.catbox.moe/1rnbqu.mp4

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>>33839347
I mean they're all on the same discord, they're probably planning their HoloEN orgies over it as we speak. They can all afford plane tickets.

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>>33839229
Now she’s more relevant than the entire EN branch due to talent and hard work.

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>>33839514
Still doesn't change the fact that she loves her fiancee more than you.

[Anonymous No.]

towa was a flesh idol, she knew the rules

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>>33839586
The interesting thing about Towa is she collabs all the time with male APEX pros but won't touch the stars.

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>>33839650
based, stars are number poison

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>>33839229
Most people miss the full context of how bad a fuckup that was. It wasn't just 'muh males'.

>Join discord channel and forget you're still on it
>Your old gaming buddies talk on it
>Panic and try to reach for a white lie, saying it was management
>Roommate niggers identified the voices already
>Management are not fucking idiots and won't play along, tell everyone Towa is lying
>Japanese audience is pissed off and leaves

It's the same thing as always. You can lie, but don't get caught, because then your audience wonders whether it's just the tip of the iceberg. You can build trust back in time, but it's a long road.

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>>33839229
TOWA KYUTE
I AM GLAD I'M EOP SO I DON'T HAVE TO HEAR WHAT A WHORE YOU ACTUALLY ARE

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>>33839820
She isn't though. Towa is the most prolific e-celeb collaborator in HoloJP and she still treats her gachikoi with far more care and respect than any of the ENs who have basically come out and said outright they consider them dirty subhumans.

If you want to collab with males be like Towa, not Mori and Kronii.

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>>33839548
which one? towa have a harem full of bitches, all wanting towas banana

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Towa nearly got quit because of the backlash from having 2 males voices on her stream, it was an apex stream btw. Now she is the darling of the vtuber apex esports/vtuber crossover scene and her collabs with males do some great numbers and give her huge exposure.

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>>33839229
Do people really don't know she's close with the Homos and even hangs out with them IRL pretty often? Almost every picture of her roommate you can find online she's always with the Homos although Towa kinda does look like a boy but not as much as Flare. Towa is tomboy-ish but Flare straight up look like a guy.

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>>33840880
they choose to ignore that part. just like they ignore the fact that towa wouldn't be as big as she is now if it wasn't for the EN audience actually going against the dumb unicorns that tried to cancel and harass her for years.

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>>33839229
>In 2020 Western falls call out social retards in Nippon for getting pissed off Twappi talked with a MALE ruining their delusions of every marrying her
>In 2022 western fans cant go 5 minutes without spurging out and spamming threads about it

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>>33839229
The fact that she lied about it being Cover staff was a bigger deal than the voices

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>>33839229
what the fuck is the point you're trying to make? do you even have one or did you just want to make a Towa bait thread?

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>>33839454
>watching tv?
I don't know why that got me so hard but it's so funny to see the IMMEDIATE coping maneuvers.

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>>33839911
The difference is Towa saw (mostly kaigai) support IMMEDIATELY she basically started learning more English specifically because she knew she still had a chance.

The EN girls aren't going to try to pick up JP that fast and it wouldn't matter since JP fans aren't larping and will leave right away, EN girls are getting a bunch of unicorn larpers and Nijianti posing as "fans" shitting up their lines of communication. They're not treating fans like shit they're treating "fans" like shit and rightfully so.

It's not western culture to care about this shit it never was if you're from the west and say it matters you're simply a poor facsimile of the originals (JP)

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>>33839548
Fiancee(s)*

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>>33841773
You've got it backwards. The anti-unicorns are twitter trannies and have no interest in Hololive other than as a tool to further their political agenda.

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>>33839229
Nobody bounced back harder than Towa did. She used to be a 1k shitter down there with fucking Mel and Roboco. Now she's a upper mid tier 10k Holo and she still streams a ton with males. She had her cake and ate it too. Mad respect.

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>>33842099
I hate art that gives towa big tiddies when she is as flat as a pancake

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>>33842315
a lot of Jap artists just want to give everyone cowtits, it's hard to find good art that gives her a modest chest

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>>33841773
https://youtu.be/swd-unsVZBw
Check out that chat

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四五天安門事件

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>>33842362
I just want art that perfectly portraits the girly small boy that is towa's delicious body

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>>33842609

[Anonymous No.]

Towa got bullied since debut because of her very contrasting voice, and at that point of time, Japanese internet trolls are at its peak of activity. She already had antis back then, think of her as Iroha of 2020.
Then after the yab, of course without being a revisionist here, she did lie about the whole voice thing and instead ask from the management to suspend herself and take a break. She did mention about quitting when she was back with her mom, to a point she's worried if Towa did a crime or some shit.
Both overseas and Japanese kenzoku made a welcome back message.
From that point onwards, she streamed nothing but solo apex stream, to a point even kenzoku joked about how she never collabed with anyone, and some collabs were just "pity collabs" like kusoge minigames or UNO with bunch of senpais. Gen 4 collabs were practically dead, with Luna doing her own thing, PPTRIO basically destroys any sense of gen cohesion. Towa was unironically, left alone. Whether this was a group decision, or Towa chose this path, no one knew.

Towa literally had no one to rely on for a year, except for Fubuki who did defend her publicly and keep in touch for the longest time. She had no one but her own fanbase. She's so scared to a point she can't bring herself reading any Japanese chat and terrified that any might hurt her.
Funnily enough, the two vtuber she often collabed are Sio (Come back fatass) and Nose forming Tokonokise. Things start to change when she did her 3D debut, and the legendary first Marine collab.
Cover did block her request to play for apex tourneys, like CR cup (with males), and it was received well. Not without hurdles of course, most of the negative reaction comes from the CR female fans that hated female streamers. But eventually the CR Fujos like Towa enough because of how professional she handles conversation, her attitude towards playing the game, and basically treating everyone the same. She's the perfect self insert to "be with" CR players.

So no, it was not about unicorns, anti-males, gachikois, it's about forming a trust between the vtuber and her fanbase going through so many shit they're practically immune to any kind drama whores. This close, platonic relationship between her and her fans is tightly knit, she can recall all her regulars, whenever they chat or superchat and even whished happy birthday out of the blue on twitter.

My only advice to any kind of EN streamers, by being frank (and not flip flopping your principles), being a good person yourself, treat collabs professionally and you'll be immune from any kind of shit stirring.

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>>33839229
like anyone can touch towa
towa is so powerful she's friends with Virtual Voldemort herself

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>>33842727
what zero pussy does to a mf

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>>33842640
Smaller and softer

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>>33843098

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>>33841773
>Towa
>learning English
Kek. Kenzoku here. She never learned English. She just got forced to learn them because her chat was 50% EOPs. You need to know that Hololive was built on a fanbase that never hated male collabs but just don't care for them. Only some seething unicorns and falseflagging Nijishills paid with E-coins are generating the drama.

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>>33843131
>She never learned English
>She just got forced to learn them
baffling post

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>>33843176
Compare her learning Korean. The only English learning stream she did was to talk to Rpr.

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>>33843125
More

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>>33839458
why would they buy a ticket and fly out (or house and feed) a smelly neet vtuber and risk their job when they have enough money to get hot dick or pussy where they currently live?
does it make any sense to you?

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>>33843343

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>>33843365
>vtuber industry
>social skills
Pick one

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>>33842727
So does Towa smoke or not

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>>33843445
that french bitch fucks. at least half of them fuck on the regular.
mori is autistic as shit and she fucks.

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>>33843509
No.

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>>33843509
DONTA SMOKA

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>>33843580
>>33843713
Damn shame. Women who smoke are sexy as hell.

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>>33843381
keep going

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>>33843866
the problem is that Towa desperately wants to be cute instead of sexy

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>>33840880
>Almost every picture of her roommate you can find online she's always with the Homos
wrong towa anon..

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>>33843940
Oh no. Not Flare syndrome

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>>33843445
What the fuck are you even on? Why do you think they scout streamers, and even camwhores?

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>>33844303
It's a trouble of Japanese values, they value cuteness a lot. Towa wants to be (and is) a cute girly girl but was cursed with a voice that she has been completely convinced is a disgusting man voice.

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>>33844395
Where's pic from?

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>>33844445
I just took it, isn't my girlfriend's cat cute?

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>>33844445
https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1401703906065874944

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>>33839229
Towa getting away with it was unironically the beginning of the end.

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>>33843445
Are you seriously this unaware

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>>33843219
She used to have entire English streams to pander to eops. Don't pretend you've been here for more than 10 minutes. She only switched back to jp only once she regained the audience.

[Anonymous No.]

Towa was successful because she had a sexy deep voice.
But she ditched it for a generic squeaker voice while being unable to actually talk cutesy.

Modern towa sucks.

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>>33845430
>she was successful because of the thing that made her unpopular even before the yab
baffling post

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>>33839229
okey dokes

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>>33839229
JP isn't EN
Also its 2022

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>>33839548
Yeah, me.

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>>33839454
so, what is he saying?

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>>33842727
>Towa literally had no one to rely on for a year, except for Fubuki
Wrong
Cover's statement
https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1235508492145799169?s=20&t=c9Edepn8X2nncxcbVmqCHw
>5 Mar 2020
She came back around this time
>23 Mar 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5-m36dIn04
Collab with Choco in 26 that month
https://youtu.be/fQ47V9B_SWE
Many collab with Roboco, Choco, Aki, Shuba, Okayu on her channel in year 2020
I'm not going to check other holo channel but I guess there more

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>>33845388
>She used to have entire English streams to pander to eops
NTA, but post 3
And I say 3 because I watched her 2 sole streams for that, and one of them was the aforementioned rpr practice.
Her "learning" english has been a cope in kenzoku threads for 2 years already, in that time she legitimately regressed in her english, which makes sense if you don't constantly use it. Her recent collab with Mumei was the funniest shit with her speaking complicated japanese to someone that can barely string a sentence together and sometimes using "japanese" words that were just english loan words

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Come to think of it this maybe is magic of Hololive, everyone help each orthers in the moment of need
Sure Roboco, Aki, Choco, Suba ( back then ) not that strong but that enough.
Now think about other company or maybe holoEN, maybe holoEN fate is doom because of their own "daisenpai"

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>>33855706
I don't think many people have legitimately thought she was learning English for a long time
Even the Mumei streams were pretty obviously "I want to learn Korean but if I start learning Korean without learning English people will be upset" so she did it in a way where she wouldn't actually learn anything but she could interact with the one EN member that she's actually kind of close to.