/#/ - Numbers

[Anonymous No.]

Previous: >>33783325

[Anonymous No.]

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

i like mumei

[Anonymous No.]

another day, another effortless nijigold

[Anonymous No.]

Gift cards doko

[Anonymous No.]

>Japanese making clips out of fucking JP-ID Disney trip
>Japanese making clips out of tweets
How? Who watch something that they can just read on Twitter

[Anonymous No.]

> unironic /soc/ posting
how is this thread any better than /NijiEN/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790320
literally who?

[Anonymous No.]

/#/ is dwindling

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790421
I want Mumei to fail college so she has more time for streaming and nothing to fall back on besides Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790457
EN will NEVER experience this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790457
Wait for autist to magically make the entire animation out of it for views

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790457
me,
i don't use twitter beside for amateur porn

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790399
1 month left, Ryeschizo

[Anonymous No.]

Who won the en gold?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790539
Same, I only have CN/TW amateurs on mine

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790490
same.....
i don't like numberfagging my oshi but mumei getting big numbers would make me happy

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790547
You can check yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790512
Go back to discord

[Anonymous No.]

I just realized Covers statement ALSO means that the responsibility for whatever happens with the content is on the talents themselves and not management
if numbers crash, drama appears or the streams become shit Management can declect by saying that it's the Holo that decides her own content

[Anonymous No.]

p-prediction?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pvwJ-Wma9c

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790570
Any recommendations?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790512
Good job, I'll give you the steam keys later

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790577
it's true though. EN doesn't have a strong connection to JP like ID does. pekora and subaru parted the seas for moona's 3D debut. they barely even know who EN is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790399

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790617
but why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790512
>>33790577
I like this new shitpost
Answer “EN will NEVER experience this” to everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790512
Can you tell me how much you guys are making? I spend a lot of time /here/ might as well get something for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790457
post links

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790617
10k

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790617
EN gold easy

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790617
eh, might barely make it into the tally
20k max

[Anonymous No.]

holy fuck a 34k gold for a 3D debut, that was the easiest gold ever, wtf susan

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790635
Can i get one too? please

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/CPH9AxW3scU
I just want to post this to show how cute ojou is. It was at around 250k yesterday

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790653
>>33790399
Always remember the OG face, anons...

[Anonymous No.]

feels weird a low tier unknown niji won gold so no sex pics today...

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790615
Check out @slutbroadcast, they retweet a lot of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790596
They can't shirk their responsibility for getting permissions. Get permissions = girls get motivated to stream = good streams = good numbers, it's that fucking simple.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790663
>first youtube stream

[Anonymous No.]

Was Mysta seriously the only NijiEN above 5k?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790676
>plus no overlap in jp side

[Anonymous No.]

Myth debut: September 2020
Council debut: August 2021

Following the pattern EN3 should have already debuted in July. What went wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790596
How is this different from before? I know this place unironically believes rrats such as early Takamori collabs being forced by management, but in reality the talents can stream anything within the restrictions that Cover sets such as not allowing controversial topics like politics and religion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790615
@offpako_video
and found ranom sound like Lui 1497501264154079232

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790726
ill post koyori lewds then

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790803
I'm not really updated to Niji. What happened to Vox??

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790456
This is thread is all about the bros and the sisters fucking each other (over). A little /soc/ won't harm anybody (much).

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790690
Damn anon, you missed out, I'll have to check with Paul Li to restock, I'll let you know but keep on being a nijinig and we'll contact you

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790829
Sana

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790848
numberfag break

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790847
Based, don't hold back

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790842
You're forgetting the restriction of not having game permissions in physical copy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790676
Hololive should never use Miko as contestant for gold anymore unless it’s an event

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790847
c'mon man at least post nijilewds for a rare nijigold

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790829
Tempus is EN 3 no joke

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790829
>What went wrong
Nothing, it’s just Sankisei anniversary month and Gen 5

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790663
Twitch is dying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790758
>permissions
That's literally just a legal issue and not one of personal responsibility.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790720
jesus i want to punch this bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790919
Give me names ill post half koyo half niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790617
Xqc Twitch contract ended this year btw. He will not be contractually bounded to Twitch anymore after 2022

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790617
Wait...Does this mean Vshojo and indies can get EN gold now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790842
I did not want to imply it being new, it was just the realization I had when thinking about the Homo collabs and potentially tanking the numbers of the girls that do those collabs.
Even if ALL of Management was against it they could always say "not our fault", the talents can do what they want with their brand. Inside the company wide guidelines of course.

[Anonymous No.]

Yonkisei debut: December 2019
Gokisei debut: August 2020

Following the pattern JP6 should have already debuted in April 2021. What went wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790829
But EN3 debuted in July already, why do you think the "Holostars" brand was missing until the very last minute

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790847
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791109
Cover tried some sidebranch BS. It didn't work out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791063
>Vshojo getting gold
>With Holo and Niji gatekeeping it
Lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790803
HoloEN and NijiEN all reclining...he didn't even have significant overlap and couldn't break 7k

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791019
Salome, onegai!

[Anonymous No.]

>peko, shuba and towa offpako with ID girls
>frickin rapist can't defend the gold

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790617
>2.5k waiting
3-4k seems, EN waiting rooms are a mess

[Anonymous No.]

Where is the tally?
Did Kronii unironically win the tally today?
I feel she beat all Nijiniggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791063
>Vshojo
>when only Ironmouse could get above 10k on twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790663
Twitch changed to 50-50 revenue split

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791233
Starting in June 2023

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791109
Lacking support for existing talents most likely. JP girls complain about their managers a lot less compared to a year ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791063
>Vshojo paralympic gold
LEMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791189
Towa distracted Peko to let Niji win gold.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791187
alrighty then

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790457
Because Subaru made Twitter space after that.

[Anonymous No.]

>MC impromptu collab can't even break 10k anymore
Yeah MC buff is dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791278
should blame ID girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791217
Did people unironically think Kronii wasn't going to win cripple gold? I had that down as a lock from the start, people underestimate the tourist buff.
Podium was Kronii/Ame/Ina

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790617
Already a disaster, 5k at most

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790617
>52s stream
LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791291
thank you, friend. I find her sex design irresistible

[Anonymous No.]

Watching ShyLily and I'm immediately surprised by how poorly her voice suits the avatar. Might be just a matter of getting used to it, but I feel like Hololive ironically does a better job of matching personality to the live2D than indies do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791267
It's better to test the water on youtube early and train your twitcher audience to flip to youtube

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790617
>52 second stream

[Anonymous No.]

and it's done

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791189
It’s such an easy gold too, like she just need to muster a few thousands more

[Anonymous No.]

With all the talk of HoloJP heavy hitters here I never really realized how many shitters there are

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791448
anon just let niji have their two golds for the month

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791474
Im a nijibrony btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791474
I can only give you apple gift cards, that okay with you anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790512
there were a lot of Twitter clippers back in 2020, most dropped it because it got boring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_ZncbgYX8w

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791384
Hololive can choose models and souls that match each other. I wish Niji understood it too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791474
alot of the lower tier holomems are having their numbers massively inflated by holocure and rust recently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791497
hey be nice this was their third!

[Anonymous No.]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791189
should pick FGO just for an hour

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791556

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790596
I mean you could argue that letting the talents do whatever they want is the best thing to do. You definitely don't want management who controls everything that talents do like upd8.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791556
RISOTTO AT IT AGAIN BABY

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791556
>>33791573
Report it as child abuse

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790512
Hm? Nijibros don't make these twitter clips? They get better numbers there though

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791547
That's weird because as an indie you can literally have the model customized to fit you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791622
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791556
Why is he blue? Does that mean Kiara modded him

[Anonymous No.]

ShyLily will collab with Kobo
She likes her very much

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790617
new link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4nJ2OedLOA

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791474
In niji, a low tier holomem is a high tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791673
verified account

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791673
He's just blue in holodex, they just highlight every vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791673
Verified channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791556
Did Kiara response?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791688
Kobo will collab with Kson
She doesn't know who that is, but she'll wake up one night at 3AM and join Lilly, Kson and Pikamee in a Phasmo collab without asking anyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791747
>Male from another company
Of course not

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791474
>I never really realized how many shitters there are
For the record

>Watame and Luna currently outrank all of HoloEN but Gura
>Iroha outranks all of HoloEN but Gura and Fauna
>Lui outranks Ame, IRyS, Kiara and Mori

You might think you are dunking on these girls but you are actually dunking on HoloEN all the same

[Anonymous No.]

>it fucking slipped
our next divegrass team better have miko's face on the slip sign

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791638
nta but somewhere someone said that Hololive also hires people based on personalities to fit the model. Indies could curate themselves but other people might see a discrepancy between model/personality

[Anonymous No.]

So this got recommended to me again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYtt0inzDR4

Algo at work?

[Anonymous No.]

what if Unou plays holocure? would that attract tourists to her channel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791638
Indies get the model that they think that gets them the most viewers. No care about if the voice fits the model.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791696
>2.7k
Failure

[Anonymous No.]

What's the all time record for a watch along? Subaru's Code Geass?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791866
has she expressed interest in playing it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791847
This should be the response to anyone claiming Miko belonging to first army.

[Anonymous No.]

Miko dissapointed me

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791622
Screenshotted

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791893
no, I'm just spitting ideas. I bet she can get at least 4k with it though. if someone were to superchat and ask, I wonder what her response would be.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYsz1hP0BFo
what does numbers think of the numbers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791934
/nijien/ hates us anyway. Not that it would change anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791556
This stupid fuck doesn't even know who he's talking to, it's incredible
He's wasting so much time trying to get Holo attention, someone should tell him his only hope is Mori or Ollie so he can target his effort better

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791891
Steins;Gate had higher numbers I believe

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791825
the mori line...

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791825
Cope, EN is superior, go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792028
Even Mori ignored his ass. Ollie is the only one who gave him the time of day.

[Anonymous No.]

For those who still don't believe EN is declining now that school started ... even though this happens every year around this time

Shoto has broken his 3 month 10k+ streak.

[Anonymous No.]

If shylily finds it difficult to read chat with 3k viewers, then how the fuck Pekora do it?

[Anonymous No.]

Not even Pomu dare to appear in chat unless she is mentioned and this retard go on Kiara's stream.
And twittards will be mad when he's called a leech

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791696
What happened? She went down by 1.7k

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791825
lower tier holomems (lui, luna, iroha, aki) etc are all having extremely inflated numbers the past 2 months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792079
She get used to it

[Anonymous No.]

>Shylily went from 3k to 1.8k
Culled?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792077
it's fucking over

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791891
Most likely a member stream? Can't remember the last time she did a watch along and it wasn't.

[Anonymous No.]

Did Lilly just fucking Z?

On a first stream, from 3k down to 1.6k?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792101
>>33792122
>>33792136
twitch bots dont work on YT

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791891
UBW>Zero

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792101
>>33792122
>>33792136
SUSAAAAAAAAAAAAN

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791556
Why is he watching Kiara when his fellow Nijis are streaming?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792077
But 31 year old single Chinese women don't have to go to school...

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792135
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9sD2z09ATQ
I don't think it's going to be mengen.

[Anonymous No.]

what the fuck is lily's graph

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792212
cause they are boring

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792212
Clearly he looks for some actual numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791825
I just realized vox is going to blow everyone away in this chart except gura because he hasn't streamed recently kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792247
Not tracked, same as Delatuya's wasn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792194
>>33792208
She Z'd, she's back to 3k

[Anonymous No.]

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>34,966: Naruse Naru (Nijisanji)
>34,537: Miko (Hololive)
>33,822: Toya (Nijisanji)
>21,423: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>18,111: Kanata (Hololive)
>16,440: Kronii (Hololive)
>16,116: Salome (Nijisanji)
>15,491: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>14,863: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>13,422: Korone (Hololive)
>13,174: Hal (Neo Porte)
>13,115: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>12,233: Runa (VSPO)
>11,972: Nose (VSPO)
>11,714: Flare (Hololive)
>11,508: Toko (Nijisanji)
>11,249: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>11,090: Ame (Hololive)
>11,066: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,044: GatchmanV (Indie)
>10,622: Okayu (Hololive)
>10,563: Botan (Hololive)
>10,189: Salome (Nijisanji)

Miko Z'd and her N filter number is 33,713 which would be the number used if it had been gold, but for lower positions it is time consuming and not worth changing it

[Anonymous No.]

>niji gold from nobody
>no celebrations
why nijinigg exist

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792212
UNITY

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792077

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792334
Wow nice. Does anyone have any lewds of, uh, whoever the hell "Naruse Naru" is?

[Anonymous No.]

she isn't sawtoothing just ticking up smoothly

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791825
Getting more CCV from spamming RUST and Minecraft doesn't mean they're more popular than HoloEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792334
slow day huh

[Anonymous No.]

>Lily 4k
nijien mogged!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792334
No Peko no gold

[Anonymous No.]

What's with the gift card posts? Anything new happened?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792334
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream
3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live
4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters
6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros.
7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live
8) Botan (Hololive) - 88,981* - 3D birthday stream w/NePoLaBo
9) Miko (Hololive) - 39,905 - HoloCure new update
10) Marine (Hololive) - 50,041 - HoloCure new update
11) Subaru (Hololive) - 41,806* - Persona 4 Golden
12) Tsukasa (Indie) - 56,583 - Streamer league mahjong
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,118 - Rust
14) Miko (Hololive) - 34,041 - Rust
15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59,604 - Karaoke + announcement
16) Moona (Hololive) - 87,402 - 3D showcase
17) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81,240 - Kuzuha Cup PUBG
18) Gura (Hololive) - 92,264 - 3D live
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96,590 - Fate/Grand Order
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 89,156 - Fate/Grand Order
21) Fubuki (Hololive) - 52,693 - Fate/Grand Order
22) Naruse (Nijisanji) - 34,966 - 3D debut

>PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive
3x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
2x: Ayame, Marine, Miko
1x: Botan, Fubuki, Fuwa, Gura, Moona, Naruse, Nijisanji, Sora, Subaru, Suisei, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
168x: Hololive
86x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
4x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
34x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Miko, Salome
10x: Nijisanji, Subaru
8x: Marine
6x: Hal, Hololive
5x: Gura, Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya
4x: Flare, Fuwa, Noel, Okayu, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fubuki, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792079
probably quickly freezes chat when she wants to read it

[Anonymous No.]

Never watched lily before today but i have to imagine that her accent is a hard filter to more people than just me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792379
you'd probably have an easier time finding aruran or shien lewds than lewds of this guy.

[Anonymous No.]

Btw don’t you guys think Pekora collab too little? I mean the last time she had a 1-1 collab was with Shion in MH a month ago but still

[Anonymous No.]

Pretty good for an indie

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792356
i can't recall who's with catch parse 'womb womb' lily or baoo??

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792395
Why can't ENbros face reality already...

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792077
So Shoto is watched by American school kids as well as Chinese fujos?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792395
>popular
Popularity is a subjective metric.
>>33792099
>are all having extremely inflated numbers the past 2 months.
How long an incline must last until it is a "real" one instead of an "inflated" one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792501
Brings me to a tear...

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792334
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream
3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live
4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters
6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros Ultimate
7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live
8) Botan (Hololive) - 81.036 - Birthday 3D stream
9) Miko (Hololive) - 39.905 - Holocure
10) Marine (Hololive) - 50.041 - Holocure
11) Subaru (Hololive) - 36.779 - Persona 4 Golden
12) Miko (Hololive) - 38.454 - Rust
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43.118 - Rust
14) Miko (Hololive) - 34.041 - Rust
15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59.604 - Karaoke
16) Moona (Hololive) - 87.402 - 3D Showcase
17) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81.240 - KZHCUP in PUBG Day2
18) Gura (Hololive) - 92.264 - 3D live
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96.590 - Fate Grand Order
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 89.156 - Fate Grand Order
21) Fubuki (Hololive) - 52.733 - Fate Grand Order
22) Naruse (Nijisanji) - 34.966 - 3D debut

>PER COMPANY
19x: Hololive
3x Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
3x: Miko
2x: Ayame, Marine
1x: Botan, Fubuki, Fuwa, Gura, Moona, Naru, Nijisanji, Sora, Subaru, Suisei

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
170x: Hololive
85x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
35x: Pekora
17x: Miko
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome
10x: Nijisanji, Subaru
8x: Marine
6x: Hal, Hololive
5x: Gura, Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya
4x: Flare, Noel, Okayu, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fubuki, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Moona, Nagao, Naru, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792449
The niji defense force actually gets paid in gift cards to shit up this board, and i'm not even joking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792247
added to the list of debuts not tracked:
>Shoto 11k?
>Delutaya 13k
>Shylily 5k so far

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792395
Anon you are resorting to compare your precious EN to the shitters of JP
Have some self-respect to your branch

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792512
Its not an incline if its obtained by spamming holocure and rust which can make FUCKING ROBOCO a 5view ffs

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

So, can I dunk on HoloEN now that Niji won or I will still be treat as a Nijifag like when JP wins?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792334
Does this dude have any genderbent lewds? Any girl he's shipped with? Who's lewds do we use?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792449
Discord leak floating around showing some nijisanji discord bribing people with steam games to shitstir about Tempus male collabs
No idea if it's real though

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792501
should join hololive, she can get 10-fold from that

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792512
Until they can get the same numbers now playing debuff games as they used to when playing buff games months ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792536
Are they successful though?

[Anonymous No.]

>Lily 5k
>Lily 5k
>Lily 5k

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792449

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792567
I am genuinely not following.
>streamer does popular activity
>streamer gets better numbers
>it is not a real "incline" because the activity is popular
I lost the plot somewhere in the middle here

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792001
>Literal faggot
Kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792334

[Anonymous No.]

>Shylily 5k and rising
Pretty good for an indie transitioning to youtube

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791696
Is she going to be the first EN indie vtuber to qualify for the EN tally since Miori?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792578
kronii and alucard absolutely mogged nijiEN today though

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792578
>can I dunk on HoloEN
no nijien lost
You can dunk on HoloJP instead
NijiJP wins

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792607
Whatever they get paid is too much for the work they put in, they only need one (1) thread that paint them in a bad light to completely leave a thread until it's dealt with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792512
Popularity is not subjective. All of the holoJPs in this image >>33791474 get regularly mogged in song views by any random holoEN because holoEN is popular enough to have a large fanbase that listens to their songs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792576
>Windows 13

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792670
>>33792334

[Anonymous No.]

lily mogging all of nijiEN rn

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792578
If you think it's good bait to dunk on HoloEN with a 3d debut from some random JP that literally nobody on this board has ever heard of, have at it. I don't think you'll get many juicy (you)s though

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792379
>>33792334
Only thing i had was this one, from his weird time when he switched models and it practically killed all growth he didn't have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792567
>NijiEN spams hand cams, fujo bait, off pako, random VC

[Anonymous No.]

I wanna punch any holokeks i meet into a pulp.

Gift cards doko?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792578
Dunk on EN with 5k Mysta?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792731
>>33792334

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792634
Not sure why they're still trying. If HoloJP was full on idol, then I could've seen something in EN but most EN viewers are neutral in these kinds of things. Male collabs doesn't really do much for HoloEN, in fact, they're better. I mean, I've seen a lot of 10ks with the male collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792649
It's not a real incline because she's just getting tourist viewers, the same way holoEN aren't in a real decline because their viewers are just busy with school and can't make time to catch streams live. It's a temporary state of things and not an indicator of their actual popularity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792746
>>33792706
Oh well, another day then

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792755
Which is why they have dogshit numbers during regular solo streams. The same will happen to these bottom tier jps if they stop spamming holocure and rust. Spamming gigabuff is good for numbers in the short term but in the long term its really bad.

[Anonymous No.]

Shylily cripple gold today? The field is pretty clear on the Holo side, what does Niji have?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792783
Man I can only give 1x Enna vagoo pat after she's creamed, is that okay with you?

[Anonymous No.]

What's tomorrow gold lads

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792783
try doing squats ten times

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792795
>>33792334

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792334
9-10 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792755
Yeah and people call those out too

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792828
Anon, low tier Holos could still get respectable 2-3ks and even then Holocure or rust aren't there only options to incline

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792334
for people asking about lewds the female guests in the gold stream were
>kirame
>sango
and may the blessed lord above forgive me but
>sister claire

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792830
has she beat kiara yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792752
>>33792334
Found one more,
Loveodoro is the one artist that draws Naru, along with their Oshi, Harusaki Air

[Anonymous No.]

6K LILY NIJICN Mogged!

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792334
>>33792855

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792895
So we're comparing holoJP to nijiEN now huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792886
Yeah and what are they supposed to stream then?

[Anonymous No.]

>Lily 6k
>Lily 6k
>Lily 6k

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792852
Kobo karaoke

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792942
>16,116: Salome (Nijisanji)

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792904
yet salomekeks are spamming their reclining whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792649
So if they stop streaming it and go back to whatever is everyone gonna post "omg Matsuri is reclining again how do we save her"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792830
Holy shit balls she counts now! Need to dunk on Niji with her

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792895
2-3k isnt exactly a thing to be bragging about

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792927
image...

[Anonymous No.]

>Lily 6k
NijiEN for comparison

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792453
>>33792529
Are we really back to the non-competitive Nijisanji days? Is there nothing that Niji has that will at least put them on an even playing field for next month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792942
>>33792334

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792334
>>33792904
definitely getting a few more decades in purgatory for this

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793027
LUXIEM MOGGED BY LILY KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792453
Thanks real gold tally anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792904
>Sister Claire
You got me! Hell yeah, find lewds of her slutty new outfit as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793039
>>33792334

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793027
what's her usual twitch numbers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792895
there's only one holoEN that even dips down to 2-3k and even then she has to play mega debuff games to get there, you're not making your case for low-tier holoJPs not being absolute shitters that are only being propped up by rust and holocure

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791474
Watame is a shitter now? 8000 of those people watching are probably also members.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792978
Prediction?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793026
Cute girl (male)...

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793143
7.2k ccv average

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793031
Koshien exhibition match

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793123
>>33792334

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792334
>>33793084

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792578
How much gift cards do you want?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793147
bae, mori, kiara and hell even mumei can all dip down to 2-3k during heavy overlaps especially if they are doing sc readings

[Anonymous No.]

>JP is buffed because of Rust and Holocure
>implying HoloEN doesn't play Rust and Holocure
???

[Anonymous No.]

1M Getto.
It's on track to overtake the original, which is still only at 3.3M after a year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792334
>>33793123

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793031
without events nijisanji barely gives a decent fight

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793143
7-8k
and she's pretty clearly culled right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>Literally no one say anything
>Suddenly EN vs JP
How much did they get paid?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793143
Check >>33792356

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792395
Minecraft isn't much of a buff right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793211
>SC readings
no one counts that

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793211
>overlapped SC readings
vs
>regular roboco/choco etc gaming numbers
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>endless sc mentioning some random twitch retard
jesus I hate twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793247
bet there is some new drama with niji en huh?

[Anonymous No.]

I thought this was a debut? Is this how vtubing debuts work on twitch At least she's cute

[Anonymous No.]

>Rust, GtA, GTA, GTA
Kiara's really trying to pump out only buff games recently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793247
Tell them go back to discord

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792334
>>33793191

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793235
Rust and Holocure are bigger buffs for JP than they are for EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793184
>>33792334

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793143
over 10k for special streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793147
>low-tier holoJPs not being absolute shitters that are only being propped up by rust and holocure
If you take away Rust, Holocure, Minecraft, Vampire Survivors, cover Mel tits, padlock Aki hips, unrobot Roboco electronics, prohibit them from collabing, lock them into a box and tell them to only play debuff stuff
>WHAT KIND OF NUMBERS WILL THEM EVEN GET HUH!?!?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793247
Steam keys and gift cards

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792634
holyshit
I fucking hate nijiniggers…

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792482
You should check out what Veibae sounds like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793307
You don't need to save this thot Emiya

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792334
>>33793310

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793313
>>33792334

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793306
>spamming buff content is only ok when holoJP or nijiEN does it

[Anonymous No.]

Wait why is someone spamming Salome lewds? Isn't that very disrespectful to Naruse's victory? Shameful display...

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793312
And why does that matter? Why can't EN make something their buff? Can they not make something kino? They can't even get a consistent schedule going on much less make a narrative around them and on the games they play

[Anonymous No.]

cmon lily do a poll, you know you want to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793312
Sounds like an EN problem tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793341
They get worse numbers than holoEN. This isn't the win you thought it was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793366

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793391
>>33792334

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793234
It slowed down immensely after the first week, as all did in that month.
Would take over 1 year to pass the original unless it gets a flow of big real views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792334
>>33793389

[Anonymous No.]

>back to holo v holo timeloops
step it up niji please

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793156
Timeslot changed, EN fags are taking over the board so don't try to argue. Pack it up, we gonna move to 5ch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793416
It's the same old Salome lewds as well. Even lewdanons are disappointed at her that they never updated their folder of her for months now

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793437
Anon
You lost the moment you have to compare EN to shitters of JP to get a win
Have more confidence in your branch

[Anonymous No.]

For those who missed earlier today, as the thread is slow and civilized again, here is an update on that usual chart
> 30 days median of peak CCV, per branch
Now with a debut: Holostars EN already have enough data points to show up as a decent enough line in the chart.


Seven (7) comments

1) Something happened to HoloJP. They're stuck in sixth gear and just complete a full month over the 12k line.
For reference, that's over even the apex of the Coco graduation arc, and now they're just casually above it for a full month.
2) HoloEN is trending down from an already low point, unable to go back to their 9k line for the sixth consecutive week and walking dangerously close to the 8k line.
3) VSPO is stablizing their massive recent growth and staying comfortably above the 4k line in what looks like a realy sustainable path to their incline
4) StarsEN are still in their "debut buff shedding" arc, with their numbers still not having found their natural floor.
5) HoloID continues their "return to the mean" after a massive incline caused by Kobo and some of the girls mingling more with the other branches on sandbox games
6) NijiEN likewise, having fallen to the approx same level they were in the week Noctyx debuted
7) NijiJP is firmly stagnated at the 2.5k line. With as many streamers they have.
As for that 2.5k, I say that might be the natural resting point for their company wide median and NijiEN might soon join them at that point as well, with it being an incline for the girls and a recline for the boys of the western branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792334
>>33793450

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793422
They can't do it because
1) management doesn't get them permissions for the games they want to play, draining their motivation
2) there's only like 10 of them in the entire branch compared to holoJP having more than 30 streamers, maybe if Cover got off their ass and released EN3 things would be different

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792634
Whoever took this screenshot, next time use this tool to archive every channel on the server.
https://github.com/Tyrrrz/DiscordChatExporter

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792634
>>33793439
Surely Discord will do something about it if you report the servers... right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793439

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793439
holykek
does hololive rent free in nijinigger's head?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793306
Her GTA streams are entertaining at least and she likes the game

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793472
they increased the gift card budget after the discord leak occurred

[Anonymous No.]

>Lily 7k
>Lily 7k
>Lily 7k

[Anonymous No.]

>Lily7k!
Hy shit a majority of EN vtubers mogged and she'll be on the cripple tally

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793306
Great?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793416
same with spamming koyo when she only get 10k in fucking giga buff RUST

why they like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793422
Ignore the ENfags. Cover fucked up the moment they hired 2 part timers and 2 people that don't stream for council.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793555
>>33793566
She managed to bring almost all her viewers to Youtube huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793306
The real question is... is she making actual progress on GTA 5 or just bumbling around while she zatsus the fuck out of it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793448
Kanata's version had much better mixing for some reason.
It's a lot easier on the ears.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793492
Unironically EN should have higher average considering that they have fewer members, but here we are
I don’t know how you managed to be wrong in every single post but you did it

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792334
>>33793488

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793520
>>33792634
This unironically explains the catalog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793594
For what I could watch, she's making progress. The scene I watched was Kiara blasting a house full of hillbillies

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792334
Claire has some of the most amazing lewds and porn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793591
Kek, she said she got a 70% cut on youtube and she'll buy a bed immediately

[Anonymous No.]

Altare talking about perms on his stream and said he's been waiting for Binding of Isaac perms for months and some of their permissions expire.

Also it looks like Tempus haven't got their first paycheck yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793439

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793579

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793520
What does it mean "knowledgeable about the streams"? Are all nijiniggers threadreaders or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>30mins in
CAN SHE GET fucking 8k?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793621
They simply don't have the support they need to stream properly, you're looking at holoJP and all the advantages they have and questioning why holoEN can't do what they do when they can't play the games they want, don't have enough people to collab with, and also get their ideas shot down by management all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793601
Oh yes, it's the best version of Odo no doubt, i've listened to it at least 30 times so far.

better mixing, effects, better recording, better vocals and ad libs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793657
>some of their permissions expire
WTF, how can perms expire?

[Anonymous No.]

>7.4k Lily

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793657
wait...
permissions expire?

[Anonymous No.]

Why can't ENbros accept that their branch is just a dessert and not the main dish like IDfans did?
It's not healthy to do mental gymnastic everyday to try to look relevant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793657
Yep Youtube will pay you one month after your first monetization between the 21st and the 26th of the month. He should get his paycheck soon. We had a similar discussion back when holoX debuted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793719
their bait quality didn't give that away?
most of them don't even watch their own VTubers, they spend all day antiposting Hololive here for (You)s and money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793657
>waiting for Binding of Isaac perms for months
But they just debut in August?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793621
>EN should have higher average considering that they have fewer members
Just because Nijisanji's average is tanked by all their shitters doesn't mean that number of talents is strictly correlated to branch average
That sort of thing becomes much more of a factor when you spam debuts far beyond the carrying capacity of your box. HoloJP hasn't done that. NijiEN has, and NijiJP... I don't even know what they've done, their history is weird and complex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793777
It's not a new info. Pokemon perms are time limited

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793719
they are tourists to even /vt/, what do you fucking think

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793777
Japanese company autism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793657
Don't tell me they write perms on bread

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793646
Nuns are made for sex

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793777
Publisher says
>Yes you can play our game but only within the next month
This whole permission shit is literally just begging publishers. What they say goes

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793815
And he couldn't have asked for them before debut because?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793797
because they competed head to head with holoJP for a year.
Unfortunately for them holoJP has inclined while they have been stagnant at best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793824
because pokemon company is a black company. But not all perms expire so fast

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793835
They do fax bro. Fax! They probably send postcards to game companies for perms

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793816
For NijiJP, they spammed more than 100 livers in the first two years or so, everyone started off with shit views and then some started inclining above the rest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793479
Requesting 30 days median of pro-stars HoloEN (Gura, Kiara, Ina, Mumei, Fauna, Irys) and anti-stars HoloEN (Mori, Ame, Bae, Kronii)

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793753
What support do they fucking need to stream? JP make do with kusoge all the time, why can’t they? Even Pekora went through that earlier this year as well
If they can’t adapt, then they will be filtered out, simple as. There are way more convincing argument to defend EN and you chose this one

[Anonymous No.]

Oh, I took a quick look at Shylily’s twitter and it looks like she’s upset at twitch’s upcoming revenue decisions (forcing more ads to be run etc.) and is looking to swap over to yt I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793906
I might do that, but one or two months down the line

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793520
>another edited image by holokek
Fucking disgusting.
Nijisanji fans will never do something like this.
but I guess holokeks will never understand because their community is just that toxic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793906
Got them mixed up lmao, but you got the point

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, I'm getting filtered by Twitch style streaming... the tts my god

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793594
She may be on her way as one of the few Holos to finish the single player campaign

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792507
audiences are diverse yes, im pretty sure i remember reading Shxtou has a solid portion of tiktok zoomies that watch him too

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793474
It's Nijifags. Just ignore them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793959
Many such cases
Youtube is a better deal for established content creators, lots of fleshtubers like Ludwig and charlie have made breakdowns of the reasons why lately

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793797
Go back to discord nijinig

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793520
lol nijiniggers deserves whats coming to them i hope this gets traction on twitter

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793815
>start working and get to know the staff on the same date as debut
brain, use, more

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793959
She just got surprised that she gets 70% on this stream already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794004
Not according to LSF crowds lmao. They think that moving to Youtube is a death sentence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793968
Yo don’t say that I am in that Discord as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793984
the audience is part of the content on twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793926
JP has permissions they don't have, JP gets to play Atlus games, they don't. JP gets to do variety shows, EN gets it rejected by management. JP gets to collab with a lot of different holos, EN only have a small pool to pick from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793959
ive watched shylily alot, she does ALOT of tiktok react and shit. Is that stuff even possible on youtube if youre a huge content creator?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793959
Yeah twitch just killed themselves, Jerma said he’s leaving if it gets implemented iirc

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793840
No, they are clean!

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793520
did someone post this on twitter yet? cant wait for the backlash

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794007
kys holokek
just fucking fuck fucking off
this is my hood now

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794046
Says the react andies and the drama niggers kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793594
She's actually invested in the game and not talking much about her life. She added her songs to the radio and sings along sometimes, that's about it for anything out of the game.

[Anonymous No.]

Bros.... lately I am starting to lean more towards watching and enjoying indies and 2view. Please pull me back to big number streams, #...

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793906
just by looking at the names the results are going to be pretty obvious lmao
you have the top 4 of holoEN on one side and mostly mid tiers on the other

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793984
NND TTS is even worse, be lucky that never got popular on YT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794046
Well of course they can't just watch videos all day on youtube

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794004
Doesn't Charlie stream on Twitch and upload videos to Youtube?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794063
If she gets Hololive and Niji collabs instead, 100%

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794106
No, stay there. It'll make you appreciate big numbers more

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794046
Twitch has much better discoverability and surfaces your streams to more people. So it's easier to start there, and it's also easier to get big huge numbers on streams.
But Youtube is paying 7 figgy bonuses to top .1% twitch talent and you'll still get like 25k+ over there if you're a big name, and the VOD game is also where the real revenue lies anyway.
If all the big names vacate Twitch it might be an opportunity for up and coming streamers to incline. If you want to start on Twitch, it weirdly might be a good time to do so in the next month or two

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck you all, the real matter at hand is if Pekora will talk about the offcollab tomorrow. Shit is prime clips material and would be a shame if she don’t

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794102
She really wants that song to gain traction huh. Not my cup of tea but the MV is kinda good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794047
holokeks falseflager huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794106
That's good, indies who work hard and are not lazy deserve more views

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794121
Mori and Kronii are more top tier than anyone on the other side except Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>0 viewers
what a great site.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794165
The important part is that they require drastically lower hours compared to a twitch contract

[Anonymous No.]

is twitch raising the cut to 50% from 30% really that bad?

[Anonymous No.]

She has an okay enough personality and I knew it's her first stream on YouTube but this stream format is filtering the hell out of me. This is pretty much a glorified SC reading and the ADHD TTS and notification/mediashare spam shit is obnoxious. I don't really like her voice that much and I'm not a coomer so I am a bit biased. I don't really have any ill will towards her though and I hope maybe the migration brings more people who are louder about improving YouTube live functionality. Good luck to her though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794179
Knew I would get a (You) with that

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794170
Subaru is with them. If Pekora doesn't talk about it then Subaru will.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790399
Can we slowly convert this to a Holo? Would be funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794195
Oh yeah I forgot that too, everyone emphasizes that when they talk about it. You don't have to do the horrific 10 hour a day every day grind that the big Twitch names do

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794183
>Mori
>top tier
lol
kek
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793753
The worst part about that last bit is they have to go through an EN->JP intermediary if its something that JP management needs to greenlight if they themselves can't speak Japanese.
That means for JP they can go
>Is this okay? No? Okay, then what about this this or this? Yes? Okay, good let's go with that
in the span of one, maybe two meetings max, whereas for EN, it's
>Is this okay?
Wait several days
>No.
Wait several MORE days
>Okay, what about this?
>Wait a few MORE days
>No, not this, maybe this will work then?
A day or two later
>That sounds alright, but is it okay if we add this....?
>yet another day later
>Yes, that's good
And that's how something that would take a day, maybe two for a JP member to get approved ends up taking well over 2+ weeks, if not more, before it gets finalized for EN.
If you haven't had to go through meeting hell, well, that sort of delay and back-and-forth easily kills motivation when you have to do it CONSTANTLY.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794106
There's nothing wrong with that.
Watch project kawaii.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794210
For big streamers yes. The lower end ones already have 50/50 implemented since forever

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794183
ccv wise clearly not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794165
Wouldn’t youtube just have to make it more visible that people you subscribe to are live and that’s really it? Like the twitch sidebar for example

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794210
imagine if for every dollar after 100k~ you make your company decided to cut your earnings down by 40%~ basically.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794052
For Persona, the publisher for JP and NA are different entities. Yes both publishers are Atlus but just like other companies like Nintendo and Sony, different branch in another country is like a different company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794195
Twitch requires a minimum of like 160 hours a month, with many creators grinding more than 200, while Youtube's contracts apparently don't care if you dip below 100 hours. Funny how most holos and nijis wouldn't even qualify for Twitch contract just off streaming hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33790635
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794216
This is the usual twitch stream format right? Twitch streamers are basically SC baiters and all the streams are zatsudan one way or another.

[Anonymous No.]

>7.6k Lily

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794183
Mori isn't top tier in any metric except for vod views
kronii hasn't been a top tier en in like half a year

[Anonymous No.]

i fell asleep as it was happening but did the Luxiem taisho stuff actually blow up are were fags making mountains out of mole hills again because nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794147
>all the heavy hitters that Hololive has starting from 2view and 3view
this is why gen 6 failed especially EN, they never feel the dark times in their career

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794210
>is getting a 20% salary cut that bad
It just affects the top 0.1% though, those have the most visibility.
but it is more the mix with them pushing ads with low split that really stacked up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794170
https://youtu.be/o4M8T_ZRf08
https://youtu.be/G4aPrz_Sdus
in case you missed it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794165
>Twitch has much better discoverability
Only if you already have a lot of people watching you, otherwise get fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794283
Doesn't matter, it's management's job to sort it out and treat give both branches equal opportunities but they don't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794275
It's more about getting new people to find your channel than it is about notifying your existing subs.
Youtube notifications work (barely), and if someone you're subbed to is live they'll be at the top of your subscriptions channel. But the flow for finding new streamers on youtube is ass. Actually, I watch tons of Youtube streams, and I couldn't even tell you how to find new streamers. I don't even know where to click.

[Anonymous No.]

The perm shit for EN sound so fucking retarded to me since EN are the one who keep spamming random indie games. JP is the one who seem like they are limited in term of perms, remember how Pekora struggled to get perms for her new weekend game earlier this year?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794219
holokek community is just toxic and trying to use several edited pics to sabotage nijisanji's good image to drag niji down to shithole level as holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794334
Apparently Vox had to delete a tweet according to /NijiEN/, but that place is a den of lies for some reason so you can't really trust the stuff posted there.

[Anonymous No.]

huh, i did "don't recommend channel" yet it's still on my front page, anyone else had this before?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794385
try refreshing

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794253
>>33794269
Just because she spams debuff games doesn't mean she isn't top tier anymore, niggers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794102
Cuteee

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794362
I know. I'm just explaining why JP could get the permission but EN couldn't.

[Anonymous No.]

Shylily EN gold... no....

[Anonymous No.]

Huh, Kiara hit 7k and didn't dip much when Shylily started. Lily's stream looks like it might be purely her Twitch audience and maybe people who watch clips on her channel. She does have 500k subs after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794133
He does for now. So does many other huge names. But people are going to fuck off if they get the peasant-tier 50-50 contracts, it's an insult.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794378
Dragon Quest that she for some reason needs the dev console?

[Anonymous No.]

Twitch is actually brilliant with its move. Non-twitch partners are basically locked with a 50/50 splits on this announcement/change no matter what because they have no choice. For those big streamers like Shylily, they can stream on Youtube all they want, but if they can't earn as much as twitch they will come crawling back to twitch for that 50/50 split anyway and run the ads for Amazon. In the end they will gain more control over the content creators. if they go a step further and fire those mods who are in bed with the twitch thots they can actually clean up the platform.

[Anonymous No.]

This new niji has a really realistic model!

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794448
If Mysta, Fauna, Ina, Mumei or fuckin Gura streams yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794385
I'm watching it and it's still on my front recommended page.

It's attracting a lot of off-site viewers so it's triggering a lot of things in the algo i think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794378
that's only because JP are numberniggers and just keeps spamming the same buff games, they have more permissions than EN but don't ever use them

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794421
What the fuck are you smoking, even with ultrabuff content mori struggles to break 10k these days

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794489
Because you can’t legally get a modded DS in Japan iirc

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794421
>>33791825
>Median peak lower than Kiara

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794448
mumei better stream today, she doesn't have a single cripple gold this month(gura fucked her over twice)

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794421
I'm sure her new collab song will save her for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794177
She's got a playlist so it's not just the recent one, though she did shill her dance challenge thing a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794504
Is that girl on the left Kanata's sister?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794504
>wouldn't
>would
>absolutely would!
>would
>sure, would.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33793959
Youtube will have better revenue splits than youtube after the change with the added benefit of having your streams and content all in one place (see what Vesper is doing with his highlight videos)

Twitch prime was always the major thing that kept content creators on the playtform but the sub revenue change takes a MASSIVE shit on how valuable they are, so it means that for some creators making the switch may work out in the long run

People like to cite ones like LilyPichu who are flops, but Ludwig actually inclined by making the switch, so I think what's most important is tailoring your content to the platform. People mentioned Jerma and he's another one that I think would be perfectly fine if not even better on youtube than on twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794407
this shit is actually bugged or something, i did don't recommend on lily several times now and it is still there and now maria from nijien has just popped up even though she was also do not recommend from debut and won't go away despite just reapplying it. Maybe i'll try relogging or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794599
>gura fucked her over twice
Hot, I would do it everyday

[Anonymous No.]

> Sad New

> pekora lied about hanging out with ID member but the truth she went to hotel with man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794539
Only because she insists on streaming that ultrabuff content in JP hours and the bitches over at holoJP overlap her with the same shit like holocure

[Anonymous No.]

The viewer churn is insane, how does she have 12k likes already? Kiara has a similar CCV and has been streaming longer and only has 7.3k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794504
>no shadow
is their tech frozen in time or no more funds for 3d tech development

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794183
Mori is "holistically" top tier if you consider her whole career, from a business perspective, although she's in recline because something is fucking wrong with either the Youtube music algorithm, or her UMG music and MV choices, or actually IMO both

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794633
If you're from the US, don't bother, Youtube is kinda rigged there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791825
IRyS, Kiara and to some lesser extents, Mumei too, are failures of team idol who failed to beat all team pro-male members. Kiara is still stable, but IRyS and Mumei lost 1-2k in both Median and Average this month compared to the last so far.
Kinda pathetic IMO

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794648
She's being culled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794643
Why use the 5ch format?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794686
mumei just went back to her pre-summer numbers. Expected considering school started for her

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794683
That's why i set my location to Canada.
Still get a lot of the same news.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794643
>yes , it’s me

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794701
>cull cope

[Anonymous No.]

That like on Lily tho, Twitch doesn't have a like button?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794648
This is sort of a debut, right? Probably a certain amount of tourists checking it out.

[Anonymous No.]

> Good New

> All hololive livers are whores and bitches who love to sex with strag dogs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794643
yeah, me

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794671
3D MVs are usually a mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794686
Isn't mindchair unironically more important?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794775
I think these are just her twitch viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794784
holy based

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794648
She’s been stuck at 7.4k yet hers likes have went from 9k to 13k.

I don’t know why people don’t believe in cull at this point. Even if viewer churn exists, there’s just no fucking way tou plateau so hard yet every other metric continually increases

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794784
Here

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794648
check in and out

simple

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794784
I'm stray dogs

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794643

FUCK That’s me hey don't tell anyone about this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794773
Afaik, no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794784
Stop projecting your whore Kronii fantasies Cucklock

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794448
Is 7k even good for a debut stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794852
!claim

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794890
For an indie? Outrageously good

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794784
>strag
you tried

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794784
yeah me im the >strag dogs

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794504
ps2 graphics

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794846
Just curious, I don't follow Twitch chuuba much, what's her usual Twitch numbers?
(And does she usually stream at this timeslot, too?)

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794890
That singer aimalee something had 2k I think albeit, she wasn't a vtuber but an EN utaite

[Anonymous No.]

Why does Lily have the exact same membership icon as Gura?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794643

Why do you know ? that's me….

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792529
Another Month, another HoloMonth
Feels good to be a HoloChad

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794890
For indie? Of course.
Delta got 13k for her debut but she is under different circumstances.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794599
Simply put, today's stream for Mumei is either going to be a mengen (she hasn't done one in a while), a WolfQuest practice (yes that's a thing since she mentioned a possible SNOT collab) or some random and/or debuff shit since she didn't touched Rust for a while (like most of EN, her last appearance in Rust was during 3 streams in the same day: Ina, Mori then Choco) or Holocure (she played the fuck out of this game). So, don't expect miracles from her for a while, let alone today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794846
To let you in on a little secret
>nobody "doubts" the cull, they just like to troll.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794906
>Biggest EN indie

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794890
She gets this much on regular streams so it's not the much higher, but the like ratio is too gigantic to ignore. Hopefully she does a poll.

[Anonymous No.]

Sister Claire? More like hooker Claire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794852
holocope
just face it all you lovers are just whores

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794643
>man
yeah, me

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if Vshojo will move to Youtube as well. Their founder has ties with Twitch though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794846
You'd also have to believe that the cull hits everyone equally then, since Shylily doesn't fit any profile of a streamer that should have a culled audience according to this thread's theorywork.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794941
Gura is her oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795013
Good, good, PM your game choice. You've been really grinding today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794931
Here's her stats the past month
You can mess around to get various stats for her here https://twitchtracker.com/shylily

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794989
That's Shoto. Lily averages at 6-7k on twitch and those are magic numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794931
https://twitchtracker.com/shylily
She’s averaged 6k for the month, meaning she probably peaks around 7-8k usually. But she’s really popular on youtube, her clip channels get like 100-300k views a clip.

Considering it’s a debut announced ahead of time, it should be higher and the likes indicate that. She’s literally about to reach 15k likes yet is still stuck.

Is this another piece of evidence that specific adblockers might be removing you as a viewer?

[Anonymous No.]

Here are all of the finished HoloJP streams in the past three (3) days
>pic related

Here is a breakdown
>23 channels
>40 streams

PER CHOICE OF CONTENT
>10x: RUST
>5x: Splatoon, Talking stream
>3x: Singing Stream
>2x: Fate, Holocure
>1x: Clubhouse 51, Princess Connect Re: Dive, Phasmophobia, Dicey Dungeon, Random Kusoge, EDF, Dead by Daulight, APEX, Super Mario Bros 3, Hololive Error, Trinity Trigger (shill), Karaoke, Minecraft

Based on this choice of content I genuinely don't think permissions (or lack thereof) is a factor at all for the girls to be able to stream properly.
HoloEN has permission for most of these choices and none of them are even hard to obtain with the top of the list
>RUST
being obviously available for all of them as they please

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794701
Rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794963
Mumei should become the EN ayame honestly. She should just take long breaks to focus on school, come back and get big numbers on return streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795013
Use a better argument next time.

[Anonymous No.]

why does kiara mute the game just to talk?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795062
Did niji rent free in holokek's head?
hahahahaha

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794896
I already claimed that one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795027
They've already streamed on Twitch before
4.1k peak though
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UChgPVLjqugDQpRLWvC7zzig/videos?videoType=2

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795093
I wanna hear her say what her viewers ccv is on her end so we can gauge the cull

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795115
Mumei should cut her losses on this freaking bachelor's degree, go all in on Hololive, make a shit load of money this next year, and slurp assets during the global financial crisis we're entering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795098
Again, the problem is that the JP girls like the games they have permissions for, and so does the JP audience. This is not true for the EN girls and the EN audience, simple as that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795131
if she talks, no one should interfere her

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795131
Giga Stacy

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794763
Is the same shit anon, I'm from Mexico and is the same shit anon. Jewtube most think is the continent with their poorly made code.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795122
bro leave something for me too.. he's taking it all for himself

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795148
Is there any reason why she only streams on Youtube for milestone celebration?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795122
What is the highest value steam card? We can use these images to rate bait posts in the future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795194
hey thats a pretty good idea

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795027
Wait if they move to Youtube
That means they can't do react contents anymore
That's 80% of their main contents

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795165
>This is not true for the EN girls and the EN audience, simple as that.
The more people claim this the more credence is given to the statement that
>vtubing is not viable for the western audiences
I choose to believe otherwise because there is a massive counterexample to that
>Gawr Gura

Again, what would be games that, if given permission for HoloEN, would end up with the same result as the games listed have for the JP streams and the JP audience?
Can anyone provide with some examples?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795115
Gura is the only EN who can afford to do that. Maybe Ina as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795194
$100 I think?

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder bitches

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795093
iirc one thing I've heard from people who have worked at twitch in the past regarding their recent monetazition problems, is that one issue they have is their users are a bit more savvy that typical (go figure every single big streamer basically makes extensions mandatory to see half their chat)
And as a result the twitch audience are much more likely to have ad block which means twitch gets shit returns on ads.

So Shylily's audience most likely has more ad block users than someone from Holo or Niji

[Anonymous No.]

The concept of time called, I want my Frostpunk vtuber back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795194
Kek, new # meta to rate nijisis effort

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795194
Physical cards are sold in amounts of $20, $30, $50, and $100, while digital cards can be worth $5, $10, $25, $50, and $100

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795143
FUCCKKK
>>33795122
!claim

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795287
>no september
kek, amateur

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794353
>PuniPuni
Did we ever find out who this was?

A lot of old school translators started new channels when Hololive started handing out monetization agreements.

PuniPuni is one of the 5-10 that debut last month than get recommended a lot.

the one sister Claire i had.

[Anonymous No.]

>Minecraft
>sub 3k
Holy shit tempiss is dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795122
>holokeks can't take the fact that their livers are whores
>posting steam card no sense
I feel bad for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794643
Stop doxxing me, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795165
yeah and if this becomes untrue you'd argue about collab permissions instead right? lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795274
>>33795306
$100 should reserve for truly original and the best baitpost then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795260
don't think ina can, she took like a month break and her viewership very obviously declined

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795137
Good one, here's one for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795337
Do you prefer Garena points?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795336
My pet theory is that Tempus fucked up their Minecraft CCV permanently by starting their Minecraft arc by touring the numbers poison thrice-cursed and damned HoloStarsJP MC server for their initial streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795165
Massive cope
They spam random indies games all the time. Are you going to tell me Mori doesn’t like Live a Live? Kiara dislike her JRPGs? Gura hate I am Fish so much that she keep returning to it?

[Anonymous No.]

guess who showed himself on kiara's chat
that's right, it's OUR BOY REN!

[Anonymous No.]

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes

>9/22 Daily Tally
16,409: Kronii (Hololive)
11,075: Amelia (Hololive)
8,789: Ina (Hololive)
7,196: Fauna (Hololive)
6,716: Mysta (Nijisanji)
6,415: Regis (Hololive)
6,062: IRyS (Hololive)
5,638: Baelz (Hololive)
5,387: Mysta (Nijisanji)
5,297: Amelia (Hololive)

>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR SEPTEMBER
1. Gura (Hololive) - 15,128 (RUST)
2. Yugo (Nijisanji) - 21,274 (English Telephone Game)
3. Noir (Hololive) - 14,791 (Boomer vs. Zoomer game w/Baelz)
4. Gura (Hololive) - 30,762 (Gura's Big Brain Games w/Ollie, Kronii, Ina, IRyS, Mumei, and Baelz)
5. Vox (Nijisanji) – 25,137 (Unarchived Karaoke)
6. Baelz (Hololive) - 11,711 (Plants vs. Zombies)
7. Kiara (Hololive) - 21,528 (Holocure: Save the Fans)
8. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,218 (Unarchived Karaoke)
9. Ina (Hololive) - 12,053 (RUST)
10. Gura (Hololive) - 22,264 (Holocure: Save the Fans)
11. Gura (Hololive) - 32,232 (Gura's Big Brain Games w/Ollie, Kronii, Ina, IRyS, Mumei, and Baelz)
12. IRyS (Hololive) - 12,560 (Holocure: Save the Fans)
13. Amelia (Hololive) - 32,545 (Myth 2nd Year Anniversary)
14. Gura (Hololive) - 23,667 (2 year anniversary)
15. Gura (Hololive) - 38,413 (Unarchived Karaoke + Announcements)
16. IRyS (Hololive) - 9,687 (Holocure: Save the Fans)
17. Amelia (Hololive) - 16,478 (Worms Tournament w/Mori, Reine, Regis, Axel, Magni, and Noir)
18. Gura (Hololive) - 92,297 (Gura 3D Live)
19. Amelia (Hololive) - 10,983 (RUST)
20. Gura (Hololive) - 16,738 (Just Chatting)
21. Amelia (Hololive) - 14,488 (Hololive/Among Us collab reveal)
22. Kronii (Hololive) - 16,409 (Psychiatric Help w/Noir)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 20
Nijisanji - 2
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
8x: Gura
4x: Amelia
2x: Baelz, IRyS
1x: Yugo, Noir, Vox, Kiara, Ina, Kronii

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
40p: Gura
28p: Amelia
16p: Baelz
12p: IRyS
11p: Mysta
10p: Mumei, Ina
9p: Fauna
7p: Vox, Luca
6p: Shu
5p: Yugo, Noir, Kiara, Kronii
4p: Enna
3p: Alban, Regis, Mori, Petra, Magni
1p: Rosemi, Maria, Millie

[Anonymous No.]

33795336
>Only 19' in
Not giving you a free (You), anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795321
September not over you stupid dumbass bastard

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795383
Who would want $20 that can't be used on anything playable?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795043
>spammed with "Free superchat"
She's getting hololive fans anon, specifically kaigai that frequent Aki and Pochi-sensei's streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795336
Altare and Axel is still streaming

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794852
>>33795122
good work, exposer-anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795378
You could use ARS gift card for the worst shitpost, like this one for example >>33795337

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795337
sorry anon this is the best i can do

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795162
Unfortunately for mumei she's one of the passion>money type of person. And the field she's studying for pays horribly according to her. So i don't think she gives a shit about money. She's also rich as fuck, she sells the most merch in council.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>20-2
How do we save nijien?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795433
He seems to have commented on her tweet also, so i guess he gets added to the ignored list

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
grim

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795481
give this to low quality with tons of (you)

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>20-2

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795415
It's the constant collabs. It unorically soured the good will of the brotuber watchers and left the collab beggars feeling accomplished at their great deed that they don't bother anymore unless it's coed collabs to own the other side

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795459
..it's the saviorfags?
beached whale on the youtube shore is enough to tingle their senses?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>HoloEN has 10 times more wins than nijien

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795433
please dude just support your "FAMILY" in NijiCN

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795481
>>33795487
>holokeks defence force only know to spam this no sence gift card image as their harassment.
Fucking lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>bae is firmly back to shitter status
>gura and ame dominating cripple rankings
i like this timeline

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795258
Any new game that comes out and is streamed by Twitch's biggest streamers, so right now it would be Gundam Evolution.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795598
ඞ

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795433
How can one person be so shameless?
Honest question

[Anonymous No.]

>Kiara 7k get
pretty good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795549
>beached whale on the youtube shore is enough to tingle their senses?
I mean it's topical at least

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795629
Nijinigger prime

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795598
Fuck man, I'm running out of gift cards, here's something for you discounted pagpag

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>HoloEN 17 win streak
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795600
>Any new game that comes out and is streamed by Twitch's biggest streamers
I don't follow. HoloEN stat to viability would be
>to leech Twitch big streamers
and to hope they can get some scraps of their audience?

Might as well move to Twitch and start on the react content meta as well, and rename HoloEN and StarsEN from "Hololive Productions" to something else while at it

[Anonymous No.]

It's over for NijiEN if Shoto moves to Youtube as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
nijien is dying

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795634
>7k is good for holoEN now
Grim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795629
holokek seething?
that is nijisanji talents freedom
success breeds jealously

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795700
imagine the meltdown

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795162
Eh, getting a degree is good. If she pivots to something else years from now, at least she'll have *a* degree to prove she can commit to something rather than having a massive gap with no work experience she can mention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795700
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
boxxu....taskete...

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795729
Juicy

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795635
Oh nice, yet another headline that would fit perfectly well in the montage at the start of a post-apocalyptic movie

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>>33795673

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
wait JP and EN side have same situation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
VOX get back here the number man the number

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794337
Marine and Pekora were never 3views, even at the start when people were doomposting Pekora she was still above 1k and inclined.
And Sora was the only 2view in Hololive, Suisei and Miko were 2views but that was only before they actually became part of Hololive.
And if we're talking about before Hololive then I think almost everyone was a 2view on NND or whatever at some point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795426
NTA, but I think the argument here is that EN should learn to like games that (1) they have permission for and (2) bring good numbers.
For example: Rust is one, MC is another. EN Rust has been dying down and only Kiara / Ame streams recently, while EN MC is dead outside of Fauna's stream (and Fauna got rewarded for those streams, number-wise). ENs no longer stream those because they aren't interested in those games anymore, not because the games aren't still buffs. This is different from JPs.
Mori liking LaL? Kiara liking JRPGs? It's not wrong, per se, but it's hard to get numbers with those games. If people want EN's numbers to improve (which was what started this whole argument I believe), instead of blaming permission shit, it'd have been much easier if ENs just learn to like, and stream games that bring numbers instead (most of which they have permissions for).

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795689
Not leeching, it's called following the meta. EN audiences prefer to watch the latest games whenever they are released and holoEN needs to be able to keep up with that to expand their audience. It comes back to Cover management being utterly incompetent jap boomers who don't know how streaming permissions work in America. And Gura has stated she wanted to do react content but was shot down by management, so chalk that up to another big L inflicted upon holoEN by Cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795700
shoto will raid nijien and holokek can only seething and sitting in their poops and pees.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795433
Am I the only Holochad like this guy?
He seems friendly and harmless unlike most of nijien

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>>33795780

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795740
She's hinted during members streams that she really wants to do what's she studying in the future, even if it doesn't pay well. She's clearly only in hololive for the short term.

[Anonymous No.]

NijiEN isn't doing as well as they expected

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795707

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
what happened to luxiem?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795800
Mysta mogs him without ASMR and those at best he gets at 8-10k. If he gets banned from doing it, it's over

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795258
specifically for Gura, Muse Dash would be that. I would see it as something like Tetris for Suisei

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795335
holopicks is one of the other ones.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHO5LVAvokDg5vwdDORf4gw/

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>>33795849

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795854
Stop projecting your failure holo side branch to NijiEN holokek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
Where is Enna?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795840
Here

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795918
Sub 4k

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795707
Go get something to wear my man

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795844
He's oblivious, doesn't understand social mores. He @ mentioned mumei out of the blue because he has a very vague 2nd degree connection to her roommate.
It's easy to make fun of such a person because the perception is that he doesn't even understand his own industry and is just bumbling around like a bishonen anime Mr. Magoo

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795514
Graduate them all

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>>33795896

[Anonymous No.]

>Time to jerk off
>Oh a nijiGold
>Why are people posting gift cards????

[Anonymous No.]

Little thing I noticed but no screenshots because I didn't think much of it at the time. The shubatowa twitter space had 27.9k views when it ended. It now has 67.9k views. The growth seems impressive though I have little idea how it compares.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795824
That is literally what I try to say, but “Muh EN cannot do anything wrong”
JP make do with shitty game all the time, Subaru literally make a buff game out of fucking Sausage Legend

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
gura and amelia really saw council shitting the bed this month and decided to step up huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795918
>>33795934
Enna sisters...
What went wrong?
I thought she's inclining?

[Anonymous No.]

dude I just realized Kiara might end up being one of the top ENs this month with how infrequent and debuffy everyone else's streams have been this month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795840
delicious cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>>33795992

[Anonymous No.]

>>33791384
>how poorly her voice suits the avatar
Wait, how? I think it's a good fit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795481
>>33795487
>>33795663
>>33795863
>>33795922
>>33795942
This meta is so good.
I hope it lasts til new year

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796058
EU is saving her

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>>33796068

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795829
And it looks like you don't understand copyright. You can still be struck down in the US if the game company wants to for any reason see hte Campo Santo and Pewdipie incident
https://www.eurogamer.net/pewdiepie-issued-dmca-takedown-following-his-use-of-the-n-word-on-stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796058
Grim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795993
>gift cards?
holokeks are cope with their new edited image.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796105
deafbros...

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796058
You know what, with so many Ls she has taken in her whole Holo career so I don't mind this small W.
But yeah this is grim, I would really love to know the reasons behind not yet releasing new Gen

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796105
Personally I think a more cutsey or loli-ish voice would fit the model more
I don't think it really matters though

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>Hololive - 20
>Nijisanji - 2

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796058
EU watches Americas and Asia burn to the ground

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796058
depends on which metric you use. If you use meme hours watched she's always a top EN, no matter what, because she's the only one with a super strong work ethic. But if you're talking peak CCV... not really, right, I mean she's only getting 6k right now. It's good, don't get me wrong, but it's the sort of numbers Fauna would get playing debuff shit in heavy overlap

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795878
>specifically for Gura, Muse Dash would be that.
Gura shouldn't even be included in this conversation, she's the one HoloEN that depends on nothing to get her numbers, she only has two modes
>regular Gura, regular 20k
>mega debuff Gura, 16k+ or so if she does it pretty much on purpose

>>33795829
>It comes back to Cover management being utterly incompetent jap boomers who don't know how streaming permissions work in America.
Anon, they understand how streaming permissions work in America, being at the business end of Muse Dash revoking permissions given in writring, for instance.
The fact Twitch random retards can gamble on being able to unironically stream pirate anime and get away with it without consequences doesn't mean a company with Cover's level of revenue can gamble on the same thing and win.

It's a lot like shoplifting.
It might be worth for some random ghetto nigger to try to steal a couple packs of cigarettes because serving 2 to 5 years in state prison is nothing and might even get him some street creed, but it is definitely not worth for a regular human being because they have a whole lot more in stake to risk it all for 10 bucks worth of merchandise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>>33796119

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796144
>citing something that only ever happened once
What a nothingburger

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796144
I mean, that's what getting official perms is for, because anyone who tries to sue you after the fact would get laughed out of court if you complied with their take-down request but they tried to anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796176
I unironically believe it's because of tempus
As soon as they announce EN3 tempus will stop being the new toy, and they haven't even touched their floor yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796152
Keep at it my man

[Anonymous No.]

just came across this, do people hate council or something lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796156
I think it's a good fit, too. Sounds cheerful and energetic, which is the impression I get from her model.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796003
I really, REALLY would like for EN to learn to love their hostage situation, but genuinely none of them seem to be able to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796270
keep going holokeks
no one is buying your gift cards cope :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796292
They just not popular in Taiwan

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>>33796223

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796313
I got a coupon for that one

[Anonymous No.]

>Niji Gold
>Niji Gold
>Niji Gold
https://youtu.be/x1fZ-RdSWfQ
https://youtu.be/x1fZ-RdSWfQ
https://youtu.be/x1fZ-RdSWfQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796231
>citing something that only ever happened once
Things like this would only need to happen once to destroy a complany

>Jumping in – we can confirm that the claims on @GilvaSunner's channel are from Nintendo. These are all valid and in full compliance with copyright rules.
>If the creator believes the claims were made in error, they can dispute with these steps:
https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1490092359228526592

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>>33796339

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796388
Graduation announcement?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796190
She'll 100% lose to Gura and Fauna
But the thing is buff or not she still got 20k CCV on Holocure which no one else has gotten that close to this month.

Ame has more golds, but they're all really low golds around 10k usually, and she still streams her her 3k Mario galaxy or whatever debuff shit she's into

Mumei's numbers have been pretty grim outside of a couple buff streams. Mostly around that 6k mark but no 20k Holocure x factor

Ina hasn't really been doing insane

The only other one that I could see maybe beating her is Kronii but that's entirely dependent on the rest of her streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796293
And a little bit retarded too, which is a plus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796292
Mumei got a lot of love tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>>33796407

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796336
You'd think that Coco would be a lot more popular in Taiwan

[Anonymous No.]

>>33792334
Aklright Naruse Naru, time to go back to being a 3view shitter by tomorrow.
I feel bad about him, guy was anti'd for a long time for no real reason even by management

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796292
mumei seems popular enough. the rest not so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796267
Tempus has cultivated enough of their own fanbase that they'll stick around with relatively decent numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796413
more likely birthday announcement

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>>33796450

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796292
SUITYAN DAISUKI

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796456
Her content is just not that interesting to Asians.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794063
>Is that stuff even possible on youtube if youre a huge content creator?
It's only possible if content owners don't enforce ContentID rules like the big publishers do. That said, it is discouraged by the algorithm anyway if the content has material that they find objectionable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796481
well as we saw on that chart they're still declining, so maybe they stabilize at 2k or something

[Anonymous No.]

>thanks for the sex
This orca is sex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796292
Sometimes I feel bad for Council getting so utterly mogged in the mind share department despite being a better performing gen on average (Sana not withstanding)

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796426
i would like to see fauna play a giga buff game sometime soon. It still seems like she lacks mumei/kronii's peaks to me despite having way stronger floors than both of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796539
Reminds me of when Ludwig moved to YouTube and has a very small breakdown when he realized he'd have to actually make content and couldn't just react to shit anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796267
Holostars and Hololive are treated as different branches no? One should not affect the other, also the viewerbases are different.
I feel like the longer they wait the more time they are giving a holofan to start checking out other talents outside Holo due to lack of streams.

Happening with me where I have found a liking to Isegye even though I don't speak Korean

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796292
Unironically mindshare from clipwatchers means Myth will always dominate. Also this isn't even the final version, you can find it in the archives somewhere.
Mumei has the most reach in Asia because of her content and streaming style (good singer, clippable). Fauna languishes near the bottom because most of her appeal comes with her chatting skills imo. If you look at Fauna's superchat distribution for her anni she has basically no TW or KR superchats compared to the rest of Council.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>>33796509

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794063
She does reacts to stuff with no copyright in any way. Lately, she's even doing unarchived of tiktoks with copyrighted stuff like songs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796637
I'm pretty sure fauna has something crazy like 85% of her superchats being from NA or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>>33796644

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796292
Poor IRyS performance considering how many Taiwan superchats she gets

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796619
He doesn't have to grind hours now so he can use some of his new found free time to make that content. Seems happier and healthier for it too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796292
Man, whenever I look at it I feel like take this poll literally anywhere and 1 will always be around the top
> Suisei
how does she do it???

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796740
Oh for sure, and the content is better for it as well, just mentioning that it was a culture shock he went through, which is something a lot of people fleeing twitch will likely go through as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796292
Getting less than Aloe as an active holo should be a crime

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796801
She's the only legitimately good vocalist in all of hololive. That's how.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>>33796724

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796292
That one kaela pin was me btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796739
That picture is fairly old now

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796801
celebrity status, would be my guess...?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>>33796875

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796292
The funniest thing about this image is nousagi immediately target Pekora’s eye, ichimi too

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796619
Yes, he mentioned how he didn't need to grind hours though, and how VOD views meant he didn't need to grind the hours away just to keep making money, freeing him up to do stuff like his Mogul Money stuff and other projects.
This is one of the big advantages to anyone who can ACTUALLY CREATE CONTENT if they move over to YT from Twitch, but since many of the top of Twitch are creatively bankrupt, such a move would severely cripple them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796891
You mean Zeta? Penguin has 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796292
do we have more polls like this? interested to see the differences from country to country

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>>33796924

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796801
>>33796852
strong charisma and sex model

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796801
Music speak to everyone
Part of why Pekora failed to reach outside of Japan is because her content are all streaming, which require people to actually understand her

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796623
Yes. Between opening memberships and the time period, it's time to debut EN3 and let the stars fend for themselves. If they can only survive by sucking off the teat of HoloEN, then they really don't deserve their numbers. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794500
I know your shitposting and all, but I'll let you in on a secret: YouTube streams are paid out of YouTube premium funding on top of ad revenue generated from streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796619
Ludwig has arguably inclined both in CCV and in vod views so it doesn't really matter for him at the end of the day

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796896
It's post ID3 so it can't be that old

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796619
For the best, his new stuff is actually watchable
he was a horrible reactor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796852
Risu, Moona, Kanata, Matsuri, Marine
They are all good, its just they get shadowed by the queen and especially her quality of songs

[Anonymous No.]

Oh its a niji win today? Nice, I'll post some Hoshikawa lewds once I'm home

[Anonymous No.]

>>33797027
Shh SHHH SHHHHHH
You're not supposed to let them know that!

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796388
graduation...

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796413
Nope, just the same as Ayame
Came back for the birthday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>>33796981

[Anonymous No.]

>>33794643
I'm married to the bum bum cha, so yeah I can't believe you found us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796292
Isn't this data old at this point? I want a re-poll, because I think talents like Fauna and Lui would have inclined after this summer

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>>33797128

[Anonymous No.]

Haha, Axel talking about the 2M USD superchat from Jun's wedding and advice given to him there to not forget where you began.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33797143
Pekora has no sexual appeal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33797161
Yea i think its pretty old, don't think it would be much different for Fauna though. Fauna has by far the highest % of NA viewers in all of hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796896
Also only in one area with a short time limit. Survey like that has so many holes in the them

[Anonymous No.]

>>33797066
>Marine
Kek, can't take you seriously with that, Ichimintranny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796637
Fauna styles her content off of twitch streamers like Northern Lion and honestly if you watch her a lot you can kinda tell she has one of the most similar styles to established twitch streamers in EN. Her SC distribution is just a reflexion of this i feel.

It's pretty interesting though because we don't often see that very often with one of the girls being significantly more popular in NA relative to their other regions. Usually it's more evenly split or they'll have extra korean viewers or something

[Anonymous No.]

>20k likes get
for a 100 minute stream, even with cull and churn that was weird.
Realized she has archive playback enabled, so quite a lot of people could have become stuck out of live.
If that IS how YT counts viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33797250

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>>33797176

[Anonymous No.]

>>33797278
>paying in ars
cruel

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
when was the last kronii cripple gold, can't seem to remember

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>>33797337

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/japantimes/status/1572962383252934656

Myth 3D Showcase soon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33797250
>Watching Vtuber only for sex
That’s the best part about Pekora, compare to other talents she have nothing. No talents, no sexual appeal
Her number are honest and it came from people who like HER, not because they heard her music somewhere or because they want to coom

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795663
>Jolibee
>not even American Jolibee
Jesus fuck, the disrespect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33797439
its over nijibros...

[Anonymous No.]

>>33797279
Does YouTube actually not count you if you are not caught up to a stream that has DVR enabled? That sounds like a stupid technicality, you're still watching the stream, even if you are maybe seconds or minutes behind.
Did she ever do a poll or show analytics or talk about her viewership? Twitch streamers are huge numberfags so the more often they stream on YouTube, the more analytics leaks we'll probably get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
wtf, do we have actual kronies here? I thought all of her fans dropped her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33797439
I knew I should have bought tickets to tokyo for November. They were going for like $600 back in June.
I wonder if it's too late to get a good deal for cherry blossom season

[Anonymous No.]

>>33796426
That was actually kiara's first 20k solo gaming stream outside of debut week

[Anonymous No.]

>>33797439
Jesus people have been asking this question hundreds of time in under an hour. Just fucking wait until they announce it then we will know

[Anonymous No.]

>>33797439
holoMyth are so retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder, is there a way to count Shylily's supa earnings from this stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33797250
Your lack of Dihydrotestosterone is showing, faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33797517
Her model is SEX, and whilst I'm disillusioned with her lack of professionalism over how she handled everything, I'm not averse to watching her again if she shapes up and produces interesting content for streams instead of hours of indie garbage with mediocre entertainment value. I'm certain many who aren't crazy schizos are in this camp as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33797439
don't care, will get mogged by moona

[Anonymous No.]

>>33797492
Yeah, she showed analytics...
>>33794194

[Anonymous No.]

>>33797551
hololyz-wait

[Anonymous No.]

>>33797439
Imagine if Kiara and Gura could wait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33797668
Hey, a 3d Showcase with actual Umisea would be.....

[Anonymous No.]

>>33797631
>streamlabs obs fork can't even display youtube CCV
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>33795444
>>33797406

[Anonymous No.]

>>33797668
They'll still be able to claim a "first real studio 3d" buff. Plus everything they do will be in JP primetime, because no way are staff coming in after hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33797631 (me)
For the record, i think that was showing "Twitch viewers", where she wasn't live.
She just didn't know where to look and said she has 0 viewers.