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Previous thread: >>33554721

Someone made an entry in a JP blog regarding the situation of the HoloEND and Stars interactions which both 2ch and 5ch have full access. It even addresses Mori recent behavior. It has more context than even the ones made in 4ch, and also have 4ch content in them.
Main:
https://vtuber-matomeblog.com/2022/09/55933/

Other recent ones:
https://vtuber-matomeblog.com/2022/09/55706/
https://vtuber-matomeblog.com/2022/09/55588/
https://vtuber-matomeblog.com/2022/09/55596/

Bonus: VSHOJO JP dream is dead, Japanese are fully aware of other Vshojo members behavior:
https://vtuber-matomeblog.com/2022/09/55926/

>> No.33688002

>>33687823
I hope the JP bros correct our bitches for us. We've clearly become pussies.

>> No.33688030

>>33687823
Cover is going to get rich off the number of people they're going to sue. Literally free real estate.

>> No.33688039

>look at this 5ch thread with a few dozen replies it's fucking over bros
who cares

>> No.33688168

wow, some folks wrote something that means its over
anons, go outside and touch grass

>> No.33688245

>>33688168
JP schizos are not like western schizos. They ACTUALLY go batshit.

>> No.33688277

>>33687823
God bless the internet.
Too bad higher-ups would not care about some literal who blog.

>> No.33688432

>>33688168
Better think again, twitter tranny newfag,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv74pMZTLPk

>> No.33688441

Wow, noboby cares, you fucking retard.

>> No.33688498

>>33688168
JP schizos have gotten results before. Don't underestimate how unhinged they are.

>> No.33688580

>>33687823
It was only a matter of time, they might be too late to get covercorp to wake up, EN and ID management are digging in their heels and the girls will have their back

>> No.33688626

>>33688498
doesn't matter how much collateral they cause, if there's so much damage to the talents out there Cover's definitely suing

>> No.33688650

>>33688441
Piss off enough of the actual fanbase (EN still only accounts for a tiny portion of Cover's profits) and Cover is definitely going to bend the knee. All it takes is a couple JP schizos to start spreading shit and it'll go around like wildfire. Look at Aloe, look at Rushia. They got absolutely fucked.

>> No.33688693

>>33688168
>>33688039
The reason why this has been happening is because the Japanese had no idea it was going on
This IS an idol company, suddenly stating EN isn't an idol company despite being invited to holofes is a huge shitshow

>> No.33688716

>>33688650
The Rushia one was self-inflicted. She blabbed.

>> No.33688741

>>33688693
But why would JOPs care? They have HoloJP.

>> No.33688754

ITT: samefagging and people laughing at OP

>> No.33688789

>>33688626
You don't understand, slander is completely different from just telling the truth, if japanese fans start complaining about collabs with EN/ID, then the jo will stop collabing with them
This is bullshit for girls that want nothing to do with men

All the fucking homobegging has been a fucking disaster

>> No.33688870

>>33687823
>Matome
Anon, those "articles" carry as much weights as your posts here

>> No.33688907

>>33688432
Oh no! Where is Miyabi now?

>> No.33688984

>>33688907
he's still around... is this sarcastic? I can't tell if it's sarcastic

>> No.33689037
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>>33687823
>even the Japanese call Ame EN fubuki
Even while doing male collabs she gets respect, impressive

>> No.33689045

>matome
not gonna read.

>> No.33689052

>>33688245
>>33688498
You mean the same limp dicks who were told by 4Chan about the guy who drew a swatiska during Peko's first public Gartic which resulted in it being privated, and their only reaction was telling him "you shouldn't do that!" on his Twitter? They don't have a backbone, all they can do is be obnoxious online. Because if they actually had balls, they'd have doxxed the JP stars a while back, especially Astel who frequently talks about the clothes he wears when he goes to Disney

>> No.33689075

who the fuck cares about some nip blog

>> No.33689083

>>33688789
>slander is completely different from just telling the truth
a bunch of 5ch, 2ch, and 4ch posts are telling the truth? In Cover's eyes they might as well be slander

>> No.33689104

>>33688741
because EN interacts with JP. if they were entirely separate they wouldn't care. Cover itself putting out the statement instead of just holoEN management opens the doors to the same thing being expected of JP.

>> No.33689126

Wow Cover gonna have a field day for the suing they will do!

>> No.33689169

>>33688650
Rushia had cover's full backing and was on hologra until they found out how deep the leak went and fired her. Aloe was welcome to come back.

>> No.33689210

>>33688741
Do you realize WHY sana got let go?
It has zero to do with her back like sanallites thought.

The girls get paid leave on company dime to cover expenses.
When girls like sana take huge amounts of time off and aren't earning a lot in superchats, they are actually a net loss for the comp.
Cover told sana she needed to stream at a much higher rate in order to retain benefits in the company, and she refused.

The reason that spiel os important is to show you that every one of the JP girls fanbases have been financing the EN/ID girls whenever they decide to just not stream and get lazy.

The Japanese fans know this about Japanese run businesses, its why its completely frowned on for workers to waste company resources and why the JP girls talk about not wanting to be lazy, despite the EN girls telling them to take breaks.
The JP girls have been financing most of the side branches since the beginning and it hasn't been close.
EN/ID management is completely paid for by the JP fans.

The fact that EN/ID are spitting so hard on the Japanese fans was always JoP bubble waiting to happen

>> No.33689221

>>33689052
Japan still feels great shame over their roll during WW2. That's not a fight that they'd be able to pick. Even shizos have honor.

>> No.33689275

>>33689052
You know that Astel face is plastered everywhere right? The faggot is/was friend with Towa and Mio.

>> No.33689277

>>33689052
>all they can do is be obnoxious online
Yeah, tell that to chuubas whose careers they ended like Sio for example.

>> No.33689282

>>33689083
Saying the girls are actively destroying the idol culture in the company is the truth, its not slander like saying mori sells herself for sex

>> No.33689313

>>33689169
That's not the point. The targeted harassment campaign against her pushed her into complete Menhera mode which resulted in her making stupid decisions that got her fired. Doesn't matter if cover makes a statement, if they force the bitch to do something that gets them fired then their hands are tied.

>> No.33689329

>>33688907
still genki and hes such a fat fuck now desu

>> No.33689347

>>33689210
>and aren't earning a lot in superchats
You lost ne there. Less than 5% of Cover's revenue comes from those.

>> No.33689462

>>33689210
a very well-written fanfiction, listen bud. I can also come up with a story like that for anyone to read.

Holostars never have the best earnings either and yet they're still around, why didn't all of them graduate? Why would you think these JOP think they know how business is run even though they stay in their rooms, supporting their oshis and having sex with their merchandise?

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>> No.33689499

>>33687823
I wish them luck. Doubt it will change anything though. Newfags have overrun the place and are hellbent on changing Hololive and rid it from the "problematic idol culture".

>> No.33689501
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>>33687823
Love the JP fans, hope they can help save IRyS from the fat drunk wigger. the little hope.

>> No.33689526

>>33689210
It's just the EN holos. ID holos still has the good grace of JP crowds by having one of their members being adored by hololive's number queen (But hey who knows what kind of retardation Ollie will cook up in the future)

>> No.33689527

>>33689282
Name one male collab inflicted on JPs that had anything to do with ENs. These EN wholesale have literally nothing to do with JP. Lamy or Flare aren't gonna start collabing with guys because someone on the otherside of the world does.

>> No.33689572

>>33687823
How is it the starsJP's fault that the tempus faggots shit on the etiquette they spent years building up when it comes to collabs? it's like blaming the JP girls for the EN girls being absolute fucking retards too. StarsJP aren't hated SPECIFICALLY because they aren't Tempus in the sense that they don't disregard fanbases and simply accept all collabs.

Any and all hate should be directed at both the EN guys and girls for being absolute fucking dipshits. They should also know that the main people that actively shit on their fans and do male collabs specifically to piss people off are Ame, Mori and Kronii. StarsJP literally did nothing and have nothing to do with any of this shit.

>> No.33689588

>>33689527
I'm still waiting for Towa Axl Astel collab desu

>> No.33689610

>>33689347
The different revenue sources go into different pots in the company.
Merch and superchats have the highest rate of financing to the talent themselves
As opposed to memberships, ads and payperview revenue, which has more money given to the company itself

>> No.33689697

>>33689282
>Saying the girls are actively destroying the idol culture in the company is the truth
And unfortunately EN is not subject to JP obligations. They work for the same company sure but the only law in the company is not to break any NDA or contract rules.

They're welcome to join in on Idol Culture but that's up to them, if the girl doesn't want to and they're not JP, there's no reason for harassment/slander.

>> No.33689777

>>33689526
Ollie's senpais are actually doing a decent job at interacting with Homos without making anyone angry, Risu is inviting Oga to her 3D debut. I don't know why this girl fucked up so much saying she wants to bring down Hololive idol culture, she has been brainwashed by Western culture and the need to "own the haters"

>> No.33689905

>>33689588
only TowAstel, Axel can come later

>> No.33689931

>>33689462
The holostars exist because of their revenue from superchats, memberships and merch is at a level to pay for all their services.

Sana was being a net loss to the company and when confront woth needing to pull more weight because her money being pulled in was actually worse than the average holostar
Covercorp is not a black company, as long as the worker is working, despite being unpopular, like iofi, they will support them.
But if you refuse to work AND you arent getting ayame tier money, you are getting the boot, because covercorp isn't a charity.

The entire point is JP fans had no idea how little these girls in particular worked and that they are both being a drain on the company, and are actively destroying the mission statement of being an idol group, this is huge shit and i do actually expect EN management to get clapped for this soon, main branch has been completely in the dark about this homo nonsense

>> No.33689937

I fucking swear to God if these fucking EN whores and their insatiable lust for dicks are actually bringing more retarded schizos on starsJP I'm gonna shit on every EN whore general

>> No.33690081

>>33689937
Good. Don't let them take their culture war to your front yard. Anyone who goes out of their way to cause drama is trash.

>> No.33690101

>>33689937
It's already starting, japanese fans had zero idea about all of this, like 95% of them just finding out are immediately bitching about it

>> No.33690176

>>33689777
Yeah Oga-Risu and Iofi-starsJP interactions are decently received by the JP folks (they're not giddy about it, but not exactly unhappy either). But then that fucking idiot zombie just has to have the same western trannoid mindset in her rotting brain and starts to bringing fucking trash taste scums and irrelevant normies who have zero interest in anime culture, let alone chuuba in general.

>> No.33690208

>>33687823
i hope it burns the shit branch down. keep gura though, and keep her safe.

>> No.33690216

>>33687823
>HoloEND
kek
>Bonus: VSHOJO JP dream is dead, Japanese are fully aware of other Vshojo members behavior
That was inevitable.

>> No.33690256

Geez, they don't even know that Gura hasn't mentioned the homo's once. They all aren't bad, jp bros

>> No.33690279

Good I hope EN management get fucked because of this.
Maybe they can start with reddit management that tolerate this homo beggars.

>> No.33690323

>>33689931
as astounding as your analogy sounds, I'm not gonna take the word of an anon who doesn't work at the company

oh right, there was nothing stating that EN is destroying what an idol group is supposed to be.
>Oh but what about that one time Kronii said "unfortunately idol culture is a thing"
I have no problem with idol culture. I think it's great there are girl groups and boy bands looking to invest their time in them for a company or independently. But being toxic about it to a foreign branch that doesn't have to follow JP rules is stupid.

If you're gonna follow JP's idol culture, don't collab with guys. If you don't want to, then do. Cover only wants them to do one thing and that's "don't break NDA"

That applies to all branches.

>> No.33690376

Yep, another nothingburger.
>Expect Hiatus/Graduations
Not happening. Remind me in 2 months.

>> No.33690390

>>33689931
>holos
>being a net loss

>> No.33690433

Holy shit you guys actually need help

>> No.33690439
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>>33687823
>reading the comments
>multiple people comparing Ame to Fubuki calling her ultra-unity
I thought that was just a /hlgg/ thing, funny since she's under such fire here lately

>> No.33690563

>>33690433
Do you need help to go back to Twitter, tranny?

>> No.33690574

>>33689282
>>Mori sells herself for sex
Only you would pay money for her wigger cunt ruined by big nig cocks

>> No.33690654

>>33690390
You don't realize that it's not just sana's paid leave when she's not streaming, its her managers, if you aren't streaming enough or generating enough revenue, you are a drain because of the way the company works, its like keeping a restaurant open 24 hours when only a handful of people actually buy shit overnight, there are labor %'s that have to be in the green
>>33690323
This is how every business works in japan, japanese labor laws enforce it, which is why there is a culture against abusing the system by being lazy

>> No.33690749

>>33690654
Two members of ID1 never fucking stream and always at the bottom of CCV and superchat count and they're still here, getting their 3D and whatnot.

>> No.33690777

>>33690574
Never accuse another man of wanting mori sexually, she's like an elephant seal stretched a hoodie around itself

>> No.33690845

>>33690749
Its still way more than sana anon, namie posted on her twitter that she wasn't injured at all and that she is doing great, she didn't want to take covers deal and would rather just be an artist with less commitment

>> No.33690878

>>33689210
JP branch has all the lazy girls, though.

>> No.33690935

>>33690845
>Its still way more
No it's not you dumb nigger. And I don't care about her IRL shit, I just want to refute the shit you said that Sana got sacked because she's being a net loss.

>> No.33690973

>>33690654
>This is how every business works in japan, japanese labor laws enforce it, which is why there is a culture against abusing the system by being lazy
And I respect it but like I said their laws don't apply to foreign branches. The contract does state they're to post a minimum of 3 streams a week and in that regard, I'd have to agree with you in the Sana ordeal. Perhaps they came to her with an ultimatum and Sana inevitably dipped out because she can't handle it. It really has nothing to do with money, mostly anyway.

>> No.33691044

>vtuber-matome
Nigga are you for real?

>> No.33691215

>>33687823
Omegay and HomoStarsEN will understand what real antis are

>> No.33691316

>>33687823
Literally who?
I don't think JPs have it in them to care about side branches. It's like caring about the Towa drama from the western perspective

Although it'd be nice if the EN management got fucking sacked. I swear to God the most incompetent fucking retards

>> No.33691346

>>33691316
>It's like caring about the Towa drama from the western perspective
Whiteknights gave a fuck about that, hard.

>> No.33691475

>>33687823
Anon, matome is even more ineffectual than dextero is in the west and that's saying something

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>>33687823
>Foxdemon and kira kira family efforts are destroyed by ENsharts
Kronii hate !!
Tempiss hate!!!
FAQ

>> No.33691562

>>33687823
>uninformed shitposters
:|
>uninformed shitposters, japan
:O

>> No.33691583

>>33690973
The laws DO apply to the foreign branches, all the money goes through covercorp first, they don't have separate accounts for all the branches.
Mori talked about this on stream when she explained her dual tax situation.
>>33690878
Its a mixture of merch, ads, brand deals, superchats, official events, all of these metrics are what equal to whether or not the talent is financially soluble to keep on.
>>33690935
Sana was 100% a net loss, both her and cover said they could not agree to a contract renewal, which would have had new stipulations to meet thresholds for revenue generation, this is very common in nijisanji and its just that hololive rarely had intentional underperformers like sana which is why you haven't seen this get brought up.
Aki and Mel do work hard despite their low numbers, they are constantly involved with their collaborative events with the main channel promotions as a way to up their usefulness

>> No.33691646

>>33691583
Mori lives in Japan you fucking retard.

>> No.33691649

>>33688650
Cover had full intention to bring Aloe back since she hadn't really done anything wrong, even lent her equipment and helped with some personal matters so she could stream. She was the one that refused to come back the day before she was scheduled to, shocking her genmates and everyone in the company. She regretted it for a long time.

>> No.33691694

>>33691583
>Aki and Mel
>when i already gave you two worse performers than sana from ID1

>> No.33691771

>>33687823
EN fans are angry about Holostars, but not much can be done about a company that throws away its customers. Does JP side know a manager, Nodoka, started dating Axel?

>> No.33691778

>>33688789
telling the truth counts as slander in japanese law if it causes damage and isn't for the public good (like exposing a child molester etc)

>> No.33691790

>>33691583
>Mori talked about this on stream when she explained her dual tax situation.
Isn't this because she has a dual citizenship? How come none of the girls have to go through it? EN Staff is usually in charge of payments received from the main branch.

>> No.33691831

Good hopefully one of them kyoani's mori.

>> No.33691837

>>33691524
t. fbk

Give it up you baka fox, Oga is far more interested on brown squirrel's tail

>> No.33691856

>>33691771
>Does JP side know a manager, Nodoka, started dating Axel?
Who gives a shit about the staff? Axel and Nodoka aren't even dating and you clearly know this.

>> No.33691905

>>33691583
Mori was just being an idiot, the tax treaty between Japan and US means you get tax credit for paying taxes in Japan and you just need to pay the difference if American tax turns out to be higher. The company can do this for you too unless you want to do it yourself.

>> No.33691941

>>33691790
>Dual citizenship
>Gaijin
Lol no. It's because she doesn't understand what a foreign tax credit is and was a collosal fucking moron.

>> No.33692090

>>33691856
They are flirting and dating, and that's why Holostars is getting special treatment.

>> No.33692306

キリストを始めとして宗教で婚前交渉禁止多いで
むしろ向こうがコーンの本場や

This poor guy's innocence needs to be protected. Hope he never learns English enough to know how degenerate the West has become.

>> No.33693116

>>33687823
OH NO!!!

Anyway...

>> No.33693185

>>33688002
They are our last hope.

>> No.33693207

>matome
I'm not reading the thread but I'm assuming a lot of trolled EOPs and Niwakas are mad at nothing.

>> No.33693212

>>33687823
>Matome
Oh, you had me scared there for a second. Now I know that it's literally nothing. Carry on.

>> No.33693372

>vt
>vt but Japanese

>> No.33693391

>>33687823
EN is making money hand over fist. They aren't going anywhere unless they want to. Cope, seethe and dial 8

>> No.33697062

>>33689210
>Cover told sana she needed to stream at a much higher rate in order to retain benefits in the company, and she refused.
Except she performed better than multiple ID members. Next rrat please, this one sucks

>> No.33697077

If any of you fuckers could read Japanese or even knew the majority of content on matome sites, making fun of unicorns is the norm. Especially western unicorns

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You don't understand, the Japanese antis fold their messages 10,000 times before posting. They cut through the biggest vtuber career with ease

>> No.33697539

>>33687823
Best JP comment I've seen so far is:
>If the man's side had said no, his stock would have gone up.
Just more proof that the EN male talent are awkward nerds that are desperate for any female contact - which is why they're happy to jump on collabs with women. Just like any of us.

>> No.33697658

>>33687823
>"Previous thread" already deleted
>ESL grammar all over the post
>Pink woman's fault
Congrats, you may have won worst thread of the week

>> No.33697743

>>33690654
>paid leave
[citation needed]

>> No.33697899

>>33697658
ogey rrat

>> No.33697993

thread made by an indog after the 3d live only having 29k ccv

>> No.33698074

>>33690749
>>33691694
Moona alone makes up for the streaming hours of ID1. Don’t forget, she was top 5 in streaming hours (in the entirety of Hololive) back in July or August

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Is this accurate?

>> No.33698235

It's over, holostars and hologirls collab will soon be a norm. It's time for /vt/ to get over it just like /v/ getting over with the Bridget trans fiasco.

>> No.33698247

>>33687823
Bro, since Tempus has debuted, they've been doing nothing but make fun of EN fans for unironically being unicorns. Why do you think they'd go off on hate sprees now?

>> No.33698284

>>33687823
Even the matome site is not one of the more toxic or popular one.

>> No.33698423

>>33689501
Kek you fucks are delusional clinging to false hopes that won't save you, cover coming out in defense of Kronii's choices sealed the deal for EN.

>> No.33698623

>>33692090
Proof besides the tweets.

>> No.33698777

>>33698177
Yes.

>> No.33698781

>>33690973
>And I respect it but like I said their laws don't apply to foreign branches.
Employees are regulated by the labor laws of the country the company operates in, not the country they live in. It's why multinationals need to create local shell companies to exploit third world labor.

>> No.33698794

kronii's tweet is approaching 100k likes btw

>> No.33698822

>>33687823
I hope Tempus gets the most hate instead

>> No.33699052

>>33698794
Twitter likes mean absolutely nothing outside of twitter.

>> No.33699090

>>33689075
nips do
who account for the vast majority of holo viewerbase
also most of cover's profits stem from this home demographic

>> No.33699158

>>33698794
>73k
>Approaching 100k
???
Her collab with Mumei got 9k viewers and most of those viewers were there for Mumei, not Kronii. And this is while she still has the "YAS SLAY KWEEN" buff where the normally disinterested twitterfags will actually tune in for a stream. She is fucked and going to be one of the lowest viewed Holos next month, especially with her notoriously sparse schedules.

>> No.33699209

>>33690574
>>33690777
It's a travesty what she's doing to that body through drink and poor health.

>> No.33699235

>>33687823
heh, starsJP experienced worse. tis but a scratch

>> No.33699239

>>33698794
she'd definitely going to have a 100k ccv on her next stream, right? that's how this works right?
retard

>> No.33699285

>>33699090
>nips
>caring about matome, of all places
roru
rumao

>> No.33699319

>>33698794
nice LIKES,
that fleeting feeling good inside,
that doesn't reflect reality

i swear twitter fags are deranged

>> No.33699395

>>33699285
the situation has been translated into their language
it will spread

>> No.33699476

>>33688432
flower boy already survived all of that, this shit won't affect him again

>> No.33699499

>>33698247
I saw an interesting post saying that wanting a girl to be pure and virgin come from western religion like christianity and that westeners are the first unicorn
It's merely true but now most people don't care about the purity unlike japanese

>> No.33699594

>>33698794
this is your brain if you're a twitter troon lmao
go back there

>> No.33699618

>>33691790
dual citizenship is not a thing in japan, mori is just retarded

>> No.33699743

>>33687823
I'm glad that JP fans are more aware of the situation but in the same time it's not like there's much to gatekeep on their side, Tempiss would not collab with holo JP outside of usual suspects anyway. Would be funny if Whori and Cuckster got dislike-bombed by angry JP niki and this time they can't even talk back at them because it would be racist. As for Tempiss and JP fans I'm pretty sure they supposed to aim for the female fans so it shouldn't matter much if they're hated on the boards, they don't really try to pander to this audience all that much though.

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the holostars have been through far, FAR worse than this shit and were literal two views at one point. they outlived their highest performer getting fired, and another high performer literally becoming to sick to continue. theyve maintained good cross company relationships and have clawed their way from the bottom to at least break even. hell, even the EN Stars climbed from backstabby cliques or relative obscurity to get where they are now and aren't going to give up without a fight.

this thread and all of the idiots who believe it are fucking retarded.

>> No.33699761

>>33691346
Towa had a sexy deep voice and a good choice in games and an extremely sexy model.

Unfortunately she lost her sexy deep voice though.

>> No.33699811

>>33697539
It's not my job to save the sinner. If a woman chooses to sin I encourage her for her intention is already there.

>> No.33699855

>>33698822
In the same vein, I hope the backlash affects the girls so much Gura is forced to defend her genmates and earn a yab.

>> No.33699924

>>33698177
Anon, they literally took that from /vt/ and posted it there. You're just going full circle.

>> No.33699954

>>33691583
Oh yeah they're gonna fly over their special nippon police squad to enforce their own law on someone else's territory with a complete different set of rules, laws and regulations KEK.
Probably the stupidest shit I've read today. Unless you have a treaty with the other country you can't do shit to a legal citizen over there, their laws are literally unenforceable, that's why fleeing and seeking asylum are a thing.

>> No.33700018

>>33699954
>but it's not illegal!
Cover is still their upper management. If they say
>do X or get out
It's the law for them.

>> No.33700093 [DELETED] 

>>33697658
EOP Amerimutt niggers like you are the worst

>> No.33700183

>>33699924
>deleted
The absolute state of pocket meidos

>> No.33700185

Do you honestly think that the JP stars didnt experience worse when they first debuted? This shit isn't anything they haven't dealt with before

>> No.33700192

>>33688693
>despite being invited to holofes is
FUCKING THIS

>> No.33700238

>>33687823
well the world is legit going into recession
time to fire the worthless talents.

>> No.33700267

>>33700185
Guess the upcoming gartic phone collab would reignite their past traumas then.
JPnikis getting wind that the core Holojp is being pressured to start collabing with males from filthy gaijin nonetheless.

>> No.33700371

>>33689210
The expenses of a Holo not streaming are really really tiny even if they took 5 months off. The salary they pay them is irrelevant in comparison with how much they gain. Really stupid rrat.

>> No.33700403

>>33700267
Sure

>> No.33700578

>>33700267
>pressure
>from gaijin
introduce me to voice in your head, anon. He seems a good fiction writer

>> No.33700686

>>33689210
Sana made more than some of her genmates for months. This is all speculation. You are retarded, OP is retarded.

>> No.33700793

>>33699755
Miyabi at one point was literally hovering at slightly above 10 viewers and had far more antis than fans. Nothing is going to faze them especially the useless gossipy fucks at matome.

>> No.33700952

>>33699052
youre right. but 4chan posts? those go a long way!

>> No.33700991

>>33688002
>become

Western SIMPS were always pussies just look at twitch and the shit camwhores can get away with, sex on stream? Week long suspension and they give her even more money.
Vtubers and actually mostly just holo EN were the only streamers outside of Asian market that people hold to any standards and that's only because we've got holo JP to built expectations before EN branch was even a thing, if they started relatively unknown like nijis it would be vshojo 2.0 from the start.

>> No.33701059

>>33698794
>73K likes
>2 likes from en (Mori, Bae)
>0 likes from homos

>> No.33701094

>Tempus collabs with girls
>StarsJP will pay for it
Ok, retard.

>> No.33701259

>>33687823
EN解体しろもう
いらねーよこんな奴ら

>> No.33701398

Well, at this point I'm hardly invested in any of the EN girls anyway. I don't care if they graduate or not, the west clearly is incompatible with Hololive's format and if they're going to become Nijisanji, well, I'd rather watch Nijisanji because their girls actually stream regularly and get along

>> No.33701819

I just hate how EN homos clutched to the girls so fucking fast trying to get numbers while STARS had to endure a goddamn hellish period to even get 4 digits

>> No.33701839

>>33701398
There are candidates that are compatible, with good mentoring, guidance, and passion from the streamer. There is a reason why Gura doesn't stagnate at 1 million and fucks off afterwards, she's at 4 million for a really good reason.

Too bad these candidates often get overshadowed by solely previous works alone with zero background checks on their motivation to join Hololive and their work ethics. Hiring patterns of EN1 and EN2 hirings are very different in style too, they just want to drive that culture wedge, further polarizing the content style between EN and JP.

I'm not saying all EN is unsalvagable, but the bigger this hobby goes, the more corrupted it becomes. The innocents who really wanted to join Hololive have no option but to slut it up just to make it.

>> No.33701993

>>33701839
Don't be delusional, she has the subs she has because she hit the right buttons and got pushed by the youtube gods.

>interacting with males is slutting it up

You fags really are schizos. Hope the new girls don't pander to you fags.

>> No.33702039

>>33701819
It didn't even work, Tempus is reclining faster than Mori when Connor walks into her bedroom

>> No.33702161
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33702161

>>33701993
>makes you wanna think

>> No.33702571

>>33701839
Even if you were to find girls willing to follow the idol culture, you can't simply ignore all the western fans begging for male x female collabs. That's why I said it's clearly incompatible. These people are usually louder too, they'll infest every corner and crevice in the world and shout until their demands are met. At this point I'm not even sure if they are a minority to be honest. So imagine Hololive had miraculously found 10 girls who genuinely liked and wanted to join Hololive and were willing to follow their culture. How long do you think they'd last if they were constantly pressured to collab with the homos? A few months maybe, and when a single one cracked the rest would soon follow.

In other words, EN was a mistake

>> No.33702583

>>33689282
>mori sells herself for sex
The hog fucking wishes

>> No.33703100

>>33688650
Rushia fucked herself by breaking nda. Why troons like you always forget to add the relevant bits to the story you're trying to tell.

>> No.33703981
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33703981

Any and all EN branches in Vtubing were a mistake.
They can burn for all I care, but please do it away from my oshi and his friends and don't drag them down with you and your typical western drama addiction. Sink alone.

>> No.33704126

>>33701993
The gap between Gura and the rest of the girls confounds me sometimes. Admittedly she had the largest 'presence' before HL but even if you account for those fans and the number of fans the other girls have, that would only push Gura up to around 3 or so million and that is assuming there is zero overlap between those two groups. That would suggest that somewhere along the way that Gura pulled in just for herself a unique batch of 1 million fans that didn't dive any deeper into the Hololive rabbit hole. It may be as simple as you said it, she 'pushed the right buttons and got pushed by Youtube' but it is still amazing the sheer gap between her and #2 Marine.

>> No.33704141

>>33687823
be the west especially USA
forces self into other fandom/culture
shits it up
whines why isn't it going MY way
leaves

and you wonder why so many people hate them

>> No.33704170

>>33701993
>Don't be delusional, she has the subs she has because she hit the right buttons and got pushed by the youtube gods.

wow the right buttons eh
wonder what those were.
no homo is for sure one of them
kek

>> No.33704271

Someone us gonna show up and save us any day now unicornbros...let's just keep sitting on our asses and whining...any second now...

>> No.33704321

The fuck? Why the JPstars? They’re chilling and have done nothing different from what they’ve always been doing.

>> No.33704334

>>33691649
Let me guess, this appeared to you in a dream?

>> No.33704390

>>33700952
Unironically, MAGGED saved magni from irrelevancy

>> No.33704574
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33704574

>> No.33704577

>>33704170
And babyshark and pedobait design

>> No.33704614

>>33704390
He still fell into irrelevancy

>> No.33704664

>>33700093
And yet you're on this American-made website every single day of your life bitching about things. Go find a board that speaks whatever language you think is superior

>> No.33704684
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33704684

>>33701059
What the
>the guys the tweet is about did not like it

>> No.33704861

>>33704614
His own fault, the meme gave him a jump start but he didn't have the personality to carry from it

>> No.33704905

>>33704684
There's nothing to gain from even aknowledging it

>> No.33705009

>>33701059
>0 likes from homos
Uh yikes. At least they know

>> No.33705683

>>33687823
Weird LARP OP. Yo

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