/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Stop getting mad at coworkers wanting to interact with each other. No other industry is this autistic about this shit

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>>33673726
No

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>>33673726
this is /vt/, you have better chances in Twitter

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>>33673726
>No other industry is this autistic about this shit
Muslim companies would disagree

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>>33673726
no one's mad about this, cause no one cares about the rat

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>>33673726
>he says this about the entertainment industry

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>>33673768
fpbp

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>>33673726
>why isn't vtubing like everything else!?!
God you NPCs disgust me

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>>33673726
Ok but only if every girl proves they are single and does a naked dogeza with their clothes folded neatly by their side.

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>>33673768
Based

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>>33673726
No, but other industres that make thousands exploiting losers via parasocial relationships respect their own guidelines

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>>33673726
How do you think Roberu feels about this collab, anon? Do you think he's happy watching her laugh at another man's jokes and enjoying another man's company? Fucking whore.

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>>33673768

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>>33674268
he's busy

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>>33674268
>GWS Roberu

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>>33673726
Cringe.
>>33673768
King.

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>>33673726
Stop crying about vtuber fans not wanting to watch certain content. No other industry has autistic white knights like vtubing does.

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>>33673768
Imagine the fat dude who posted this irl

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>>33674456
I always assume it's something more like pic related.

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>>33674386
>they gave Irys Aloe's model
I kneel

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>>33673883
Oh shit. I didn't expect it!

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>>33673768

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>>33673726
I'm not mad I just stop watching whoever collabs with them

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>>33674456
I can bench your body weight

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>>33674268
Rat the is one who wants him, not the other way around.

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>>33674456
>>33674506
imagine spending time to shill male collabs and let the dirty dishes accumulate?
Go back to the kitchen.

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>>33674554
>stop watching because they talked to someone with a penis on stream
that sounds like mad to me

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>>33673768
king shit

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>>33674671
Is this the best you got, trannycorn?

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>>33673768
fpbp
Hololive is not an streaming company, streaming is part of it but not all, they aren't mere coworkers

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>>33674671
Where did either of those posts mention males?
Fucking rent free, you could take this nigga to an all lesbian strip club and he'd still have nothing but men on his mind.

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>>33674581
>cant get laid so he watches vtubers
sure thing buddy

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>>33673726
This industry isn't autistic about it either really.
It's just a small subset of people who want to enjoy things in their way, and if you wanna shit on them when they get agressive, when they harrass the talents, you know that's fine. That's fair.
But what do you get out of coming here to try and do targeted harassment to THEM, most of whom have never even crossed words with you? Most of whom only want to enjoy their niche little thing, in their little niche corner?
You wanna tell them they're sad? You think they don't fucking know that already? Only dredges of society rely on parasocial relationships with anime characters, and no one knows that better than them. So why are you coming out here specifically to find people like that and punch DOWN at them? You think this makes you some sort of Hero? You think you're doing the noble thing? By harassing people you yourself call losers, even when they're not doing anything?

Just go away.

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>>33673726
They talk on discord off stream and have fun all day on call's. Just don't stream it, it's not that hard

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>>33673768
fpbp

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>>33674589
She should get her priorities in check and stop collabing with other men then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33674589
She's actually a filthy shipper and ships him with Mea

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>>33673726
No other industry is propped up by grown women poorly larping as anime girls in front of thousands of people either.

[Anonymous No.]

>Stop getting mad at vtubers for calling you an incel
>Stop getting mad at coworkers wanting to interact with each other.
-you're here
>Stop getting mad at vtubers streaming with their IRL face
>Stop getting mad at vtubers for shilling for a political candidate
>>Stop getting mad at vtubers because they hate anime and the male gaze
>Stop getting mad at vtubers for canceling their Japanese senpai for enabling incels
>Stop getting mad at vtubers for openly dating and marrying their coworkers
>Stop getting mad at vtubers for running gambling and sex trafficking rings

[Anonymous No.]

>>33673726
>No other industry is this autistic
I mean... yeah? This is the single most autistic industry in the world. Has that not already been established?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33673726
silence nijifag, i'm trying to enjoy hololive
people are free to sell and buy what they want, but they shouldn't be surprised that their customer has built expectations from the product they've been selling

[Anonymous No.]

>>33674721
You Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet
>>33674770
"RENT FREE"
My pp also "RESTS FREE" in the middle of your buttcheeks, so if you're a dude, you kinda right about that.

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>>33675053
lol

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>>33675362
>My pp also "RESTS FREE" in the middle of your buttcheeks, so if you're a dude, you kinda right about that.
Wow sounds like you're a huge flaming homo

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>>33675362
Anon, if you want to fuck my ass all you have to do is ask. I won't let you stop until you make me cum at least twice though.

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>>33673726
Its ok for Bae to do it, she markets herself that way.

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>>33673768
gigachad is not for coping

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How are they coworkers when they're part of separate projects with separate goals and audiences?

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>>33675841
No she sucks too for corrupting the others.

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>>33673865
vtubers would be haram as fuck to muslims
and why would you even want to watch vtubers when everyone man gets his own complementary child wife?

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>>33675695
Nah, just Bi.
>>33675796
Did you shave it properly? I'm not into dark brown forests, you know.

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>>33673768
Based

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>>33673726
>No other industry is this autistic about this shit
I don't like unicorns but the people who're anti-unicorn are even more fucking stupid. The vtubing industry is soft as fuck compared to other entertainment industries when it comes to brand preservation. Hell, the OP image is Bae and Vesper and they got by perfectly fine. The problem is not just that a ton of virgins are getting angry over their imaginary girlfriend being in the presence of another man, that's a gross exageration of a problem that simply boils down to lack of professionalism in the EN branch. The vast, vast majority of male/female interactions in the scene don't cause a fuss.

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>>33673726
YOU ARE A KEK.

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>>33675053
>Making up an entire alternate universe to justify your schizo seething
Meds. Now.

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>>33676072
He said the truth, but forgot to add after the:
">well, maybe i can do some collabs with men, Hololive is not an idol group anymore after all."
That guys will also be applying with:
">well, if Axel can openly lusts after their coworkers, it means it's fine if i apply with that intention as well."

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>>33673726
> BEING A KEKOLD. NO, THANKS.

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>>33673726
Literally it's just Altare:
> acts like a fuckboi.
> makes Ame blush.
> makes Kobo act up.
> cures Kronii's depression with his D.
> steals Ina's Wah
The good boi doggo, bisexual magni, and gramps Vespie are fine.

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>>33673726
I hate that these days we have to refer to retarded neets streaming themselves playing vidya or talking about inane bullshit online to a audience as an “industry” when 100 years ago the equivalent were just circus freaks and we treated them exactly as they should be treated.

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>>33676634
You already are one

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>>33676691
Circus freaks ARE an industry.

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>>33676317
>He can't literally see into the future
Ngmi

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>>33676072
genuinely curious what sub this was

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>>33676800
>Implying
How do you think I know it's a made up alternate universe?

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>>33676834
The incel one

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>>33674581
I doubt that, I weigh 384 pounds. Joke's on you faggot

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>>33677127
I don't get the right side

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>>33674782
However sad you are, you deserve to be more sad. Unicorns and incels don’t deserve even the fantasy that /vt/ provides that they are the “true” fans. We come here to kick you because you need to know that you should just stop existing. Your oshi laughs at you when you cry about homo collabs.

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>>33675053
>SCHIZOS REALLY BELIEVE THIS

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>>33676653
>makes /vt/ seethe

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>>33675053
>>Stop getting mad at vtubers because they hate anime and the male gaze
This is the only one of these that would make me mad.

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>>33676747
No they aren’t, they were literally a freakshow, people paid some pocket change to the ringmaster to go in and point and laugh at the retard flailing around in their cage. They aren’t especially talented or amazing, there was no performance, their pathetic existence was the whole draw. Referring to those or these losers as an “industry” is embarrassing to people who have applicable skills or talent and train and practice to hone their craft.

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>>33677258
I don't care about homo collabs, I enjoy them.
It's just you miserable pieces of shit that bother me, acting uppity online just because you can kick people who are down even lower than you. And then some of them even have the gall to pretend they're doing something good on top of it, and farm clout online?
What's worse is that the kind of person who would even be into Vtubers, and further, need validation like that is ALSO likely to just be social garbage not worth a damn to anyone. Especially if they're autistic enough about it to want to come into shitholes like this to do it.
I can only imagine if you killed yourself, not a single person would weep.

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>>33673726
Daily reminder that Hololive is pure shit and it will never be the same after HOMOSTARS KEKOLD SIMULATOR

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>>33677597
If you don’t care about the homo collabs you literally aren’t the problem. People attacking the girls for collab choices should all rope, and doing literally anything to fuck those people is not only justified, but necessary for the community.

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>>33677597
I'm not the guy you replied to earlier but let me give you a piece of advice. Don't take /vt/ seriously, I mean it. You're not even talking to an actual unicorn, he's a legit anti that loves to larp as one.

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>>33677893
You sure you replied to the right person?>>33677784
>If you don’t care about the homo collabs you literally aren’t the problem
That is quite literally the first thing I said you dumb bitch.

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>>33677775
by that logic it has never been the same since 2020

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>>33677972
I may be old but my eyes don't betray me. Why don't you run along and support your oshi instead of bickering like a dog.

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>>33678018
It wasn't
Who in their right mind is going to allow their oshi to be desecrated?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33673768
based

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>>33673768

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>>33677893
You sure you replied to the right person?

>>33677784
>If you don’t care about the homo collabs you literally aren’t the problem. People attacking the girls for collab choices should all rope
That is quite literally the first thing I said you dumb bitch. If you shit on someone who is harassing a talent that's fine. If you come here just to shit on people who don't want male collabs you're basically just going out to the slums to kick homeless people and somehow expect to be treated like a hero for it. It's sickening.

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>>33678222
yes >>33678136

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>>33678136
I'm talking in favor of unicorns, and against people who come here just to shit on them for no reason, so I think your old man larping might've gotten to the point where you need glasses.

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>>33678222
The people who harass the talents are the same people who sit around here bitching about male collabs, and I will always do my part by coming here to kick them and kick them and kick them until they kill themselves, which will improve every facet of the world. Fuck unicorns every day forever.

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>>33673768
omegabased

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>>33678337
Lol imagine talking in favor of incels. Gross.

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>>33678683
Some of us unicorns have been through a lot and the last thing we want is to be disappointed again. Don't try to insult me you won't get anything, the words of a KEK can't affect me.

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>>33673726
Okay, I will also stop giving them money. Thanks for setting me straight OP!

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>>33678751
>he thinks anti-unicorns aren't incel
>>33677127

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>>33678798
You think pretending to live a cartoon woman and then crying because they talked to a cartoon man is “going through a lot” ??? I cannot even fathom an existence that pathetic. Please stay away from our vtubers, they are a valuable and respected source of healthy escapist entertainment, and if you make them graduate with your unbelievably disgusting bullshit, that would be regrettable.

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>[DELETED]
Hololive in full damage control.

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>>33677784
>necessary for the community
only thing toxic positivity produces is more drama and stronger pushback from the people you larp against.
you are actually just as bad as them for feeding into it.

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>>33678973
Stop fooling yourself. Hololive was no longer the same since Homostars.

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>>33679067
I'd say they're worse, since they act morally superior.

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>>33673865
HoloStarEN is literally backed up by Saudi Monarchy

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>>33678973
>that would be regrettable
Lmao what are you gonna do, reddit bitchboy? Crying wolf to janny? Hire assassins and trackers to hunt unicorns down? Or just spamming threads or tweets about LE BAD MAGIC HORSE ad infinitum?

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>>33679067
Culling unicorns isn’t toxic positivity. You can still debate and razz and hate and critique and have preferences. But the culture of trying to bludgeon the talents into avoiding male interactions, or indeed to do anything, because you as a fan feel entitled to control their output, especially in regards to completely cringe shit like not wanting them to speak to men, cannot be tolerated in some kind of “live and let live”, because it by it’s very existence disrupts and restricts. Sometimes the correct thing to do is just to bully the shit out of losers until they go away. If your enjoyment of this fandom is so fragile that it requires the talents to pretend to adhere to a bunch of creepy lunatic incel rules, then the fandom is better without you. This is pretty much the last bastion of that sickness, so of course we come here to fuck with you. Don’t think we don’t see the “condom money” superchats. If you didn’t pull that shit we would t have to come here and shit up literally every one of your gay little threads.

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>>33673726
wrong platform. everyone here is mentally ill

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>>33679411
Lol they *are* morally superior. Do you not understand how morality works? Are you a child on the playground who thinks that if one child pushes another, and that child pushes back, both are equally guilty? It is difficult to explain adult ideas to children, but essentially unicorns are vermin; they come into the streams and harass the talents, lashing out at the people who bust their ass every day for our entertainment. It is not immoral to bully unicorns.

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>>33679743
I don’t think I really have to do anything, the problem seems to be resolving itself just like the bugmen problem. You’re all just giving up and leaving. Pretty soon it will be possible to ignore you. I look forward to that.

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>>33673768
FPBP

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>>33680133
Oh the irony

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>>33680133
You're not pushing a child who pushed you.
In this example you see a child push someone, so you go their downtrodden home and push and push their malnourished brother. Then brag about it and ask for praise.

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>>33679953
Ah cute, "yas queen" freaks here now are trying to pretend that they never antagonize and try to gaslight on those who simply didn't like male collabs as part of the retarded unikek group.

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>>33673726
AAA ITS NORMAL AAA ITS NORMAL AAA ITS NORMAL AAA ITS NORMAL AAA ITS NORMAL AAA ITS NORMAL AAA ITS NORMAL AAA ITS NORMAL AAA ITS NORMAL
Make more threads.

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>>33675053
I wonder how far down we are on the Mori timeline, October was good times.

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>>33680558
>I was led on!!!!
then turn on youtube kids or something, the rest of the world with normal human impulse control see nothing wrong here faggot

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>>33680133
>people who bust their ass every day
They're playing video games.

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>>33677597
That's been getting to me as well. If you compare them side by side, the pro-male faction is just absolutely awful. The unicorns might be socially inept, but their ultimate desire is really just to keep everything the same as it's always been. If you can't be at least a little sympathetic to that, then there's something wrong with you.

Honestly, I can't help but suspect that White Knight army might just be entirely comprised of tourists, swarming like locusts to get their sense of moral superiority, only to leave everyone else lesser once they inevitably move on.

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>>33680558
Antagonizing fans is not nearly as bad as antagonizing the talents themselves, which is something unicorns constantly do.

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>>33680875
Any talent with this entitled attitude deserves the flak.

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>>33680863
They keep everything the same by threatening the talents. The “pro-male” side is really just pro-talent. Fuck unicorns.

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>>33681170
>The “pro-male” side is really just pro-talent.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OUT OF THOSE 70K LIKES ON KRONII'S TWEET, NOT EVEN 10K OF THEM WATCH HER COMEBACK STREAM

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>>33679953
>it’s very existence disrupts and restricts
THAT IS THE ENTIRETY OF THE CONCEPT OF RECEPCTION AND DEMOGRAPHICS FOR ENTERTAINMENT AND MEDIA.
ABOUT EVERYTHING.
LITERALLY.
Unicorns are no different from any other preference. And ANY preference can result in harassment, just like how some Minecraft faggots go apeshit over the idea of talents using Creative Mode, for example. There is no difference, talents just have to chose who to pander to.

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>>33681040
Honestly it’s the unicorns acting entitled. They aren’t entitled to control the fan. Vote with your wallet but don’t harass the streamers. If enough people really didn’t want them to stream with males, they wouldn’t, because it would actually hurt the bottom line. But in reality the number who don’t want to see interactions with males is very small. But copium is a powerful drug.

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>>33674514
Hmm maybe.

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>>33680848
Do you really think that’s all they do? In my professional career I have only had to work with Hololive in passing, but it was enough to see that most of the talents work a lot more than regular 9-5 office workers. There’s planning and rehearsing and researching and training and singing and recording and practicing and designing and corporate bullshit meetings and con appearances and all kinds of stuff. To say that all they do is play video games as a way to diminish what they do so you can denigrate them is simply objectively wrong.

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>>33681170
>>33681300
LMAO
RUMAO

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>>33681333
>don't ask anyone to reflect on their situation and the shit that's happening WITHOUT immediately blaming it on everything except for themselves
I know, fucking impossible right?

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>>33681537
We aren't complaining about the JPs.

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>>33681537
this doesn't even read like a good larp retard
you don't know the EXTREMELY VARIABLE schedules of the individual workers from a corp you happen to work with in passing

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>>33681300
That’s pretty normal for a Kronii stream that barely counts as a comeback since she interacted a bunch while she was gone. Are you pretending that there are 10 or 20 thousand people here who were withholding their view, and that it would be otherwise like a 50k stream? You are halu.

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>>33681300
Are you for real? Literally every single vtuber has more likes than views.

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>>33673768
Fpbp. Why can't people be more like this anon

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>>33681625
You sad people think everything is a LARP lol. What I described literally *is* an extremely variable schedule, which by definition neither I nor anyone could hope to know all of.

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>>33681738
they're also the first to say "total views don't matter, only gachi views matter because they give supas" so they absolutely know the pareto principle, just selectively

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>>33681537
Nobody cares about any of that shit you just listed, the thing that brought them notoriety in the first place is streaming vidya. All that shit that came after is just window dressing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33673768
BASED TRANNIES BTFO

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>>33681881
Are we still pretending that superchats are the largest part of their income? The money that YouTube takes half of, cover takes half of, and is then taxed? Lol okay. ::laughs in merch:: I think the girls will be fine without unicorn scum.

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>>33679953
>You can still debate and razz and hate and critique and have preferences
bullshit, i've seen people post fair criticism about this and they were all branded as unicorns. all your mentality does is make people afraid to share their opinions if they are not all positive, that is the definition of toxic positivity.
besides no matter how much you fight unicorns will never go away. all you do is make sure they'll make more drama threads and continue attacking the talent by feeding them.
let the talent deal with it instead of making things worse for them.

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>>33673768
HOLY BASADO

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>>33682202
There is no fair criticism defending the position “you should not speak to people who have penises because it hurts my feelings.” That’s literally a mentally ill opinion.

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>>33682340
This. At least be honest about it.

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>>33674268
Roberu is busy with Mea she is his real "female partner" for collabs, Bae was just a make a wish situation

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>>33682340
>>33682490
You cannot be reasoned with, we agree. So we need to gatekeep the hell of you. Watch NIJEN.

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>>33677597
I think the problem is that people have their terms and justifications for lashing out kinda crossed up because of this ambiguous term "idol culture" so on one side we have people who believe a proportion of the audience are misogynist incels who are trying to repress the freedoms of Hololive talent and the other side who believe Hololive is Hololive because of this idols-but-not-really-but-actually-we-are bent and CGDCT. Holostar, 1-1 male collabs, cross-organization collabs were always a thing but those were not the reasons why Hololive was such a dominant force today.

I'm not saying that unicorns don't exist because they definitely do, but I think most people just feel it in their gut that this goes against the status quo and would rather take the position that pushes back against that feeling.

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>>33681170
You absolutely are not pro-talent if you think openly antagonizing segments of their audience is acceptable. It is not your job to protect a talent from their fans, and in even trying to do so you create a dishonest environment. Exactly how many people do you think would prefer a female-only streaming environment? It's gonna be real fuckin' hard to tell now that the white knights have polluted everything with their incessant bleating that the talents should do whatever they want and anyone who expresses any other opinion deserves the rope.

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>>33673726
>No other industry is this autistic
Untapped markets are rare opportunities.

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>>33682600
Honestly, I have to wonder what the hell is wrong with EN Management. Nothing about this situation has been a surprise, and yet they appear to have done absolutely nothing whatsoever to prepare the talents or the fans for it. This isn't even unique either, the most consistent element in HoloEN is the management being a net-negative that they would collectively be better off without.

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>>33681835
try harder lmao

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>>33681835
>A-Actually they work much harder than the average professional
>*lists a random list of tasks*
>I-I know it's variable!
>I-I can't possibly know the their actual schedule, or how much each one works, but I'm sure it's more than a 9-5!
At least keep it consistent.

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>>33680133
Holy shit not only are you retarded, you have 0 self-awareness

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>>33682340
nice strawman, that's completely irrelevant to what fair criticism about male collabs account for.
the males are subjected to the exact same criticism and taste of choice the females are subjected to. you are allowed to not like a males vtuber content just as much as you are allowed to not like a female vtuber content. for example if Ollie collabs with your oshi and you think they do not mesh well or you dont like Ollies personality, you are allowed to dislike her collabing with your oshi. same thing applies to the males, gender has nothing to do with this and its a completely fair thing to express. yet you will still be branded as a unicorn just because they happen to have a dick.

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>>33682599
You misunderstand. Look at the direction things are going. It is you who are being gatekept. Goodbye, unicorns!

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>>33673768
fpbp

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>>33682600
Westerners have this weird ass stereotype about idols. They believe every idol is destined to have crazy creeps, stalkers, and schizos, so they think it's better not to use the idol label.
>Anyone who calls themselves idols will have a crazy obsessed fanbase - West
Smh

[Anonymous No.]

>>33673768
Based

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>>33683999
Fans will never be as bad as the paparazzi when it comes to creepy stalking.

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>>33683803
Your mind is only on the 'war,' that's all that's in your head, you aren't even thinking about anything else, so obviously everything you say is fucking retarded, because you're not looking for truth, you're trying to push a position regardless of the facts involved. As a result, there's only one conclusion to be made from these few days of interacting with you people, and it's that you people are actually stupid. I mean, actually, terrible at understanding situations and formulating reasonable explanations for things. Consistently, you exhibit an utter lack of understanding yet confidently spout the dumbest shit, making the same points. There's no evolution, there's no consideration, even if you are led to understanding, a few minutes later someone else of your kind is saying the same dumb shit. I don't like to mock idiots, but if they choose to act so arrogantly, then I don't feel much reserve in doing so.

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>>33683999
They shouldn't have been sold as an idol group if they weren't going to behave like idols.

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>>33684487
>never heard of the Bjork stalker.
Paparazzi do it for the money, mostly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33682600
The society is so rotten that they prefer to be a group of Cucks instead of having a group of pure Idols. (what it really means to be an idol)
Since Rushia happened we already knew the implications of this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33674386
I'm gonna need a QRD on this one

[Anonymous No.]

>>33673726
>no other industry
all of sports, normal bathrooms, clothing store changing rooms, women's only colleges, women's only trains cars, women's only gyms, sororities

[Anonymous No.]

>>33684507
Lol fuck off smelly incel tldr

[Anonymous No.]

>>33682340
Preferring an entertainer provide a particular kind of content for the handful of hours they are on the clock isn't some human rights violation. vTubers are supposed to be the intersection between fantasy and reality and for some people watching a girl you like stop paying attention to you and instead start doting on another guy is an experience they can get IRL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33684926
Gross, rope yourself with this “pure idol” horseshit. If your fantasy is a woman who can’t speak to other men it’s a sign of repulsive weakness. Your parasocial weakness reflects your interpersonal weakness; you wouldn’t want your real girlfriend to talk to other men either, because you don’t have the confidence to know she would choose you over some rando. Your weakness even infests your fantasies. It’s disgusting. Unicorns are the ultimate cucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33673768
Absolutely blessed fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>33686901
She isn’t paying attention to you in the first place, and talking to some boomer cartoon vampire man isn’t “doting”, god how insecure are you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33686939
Say what you want, I'm not the fool who lets himself be cuckolded, like you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33687036
Obsessing over being cuckolded, and obsession with cuckoldry in general, is another sign of weakness and degeneracy. You aren’t fucking her, you can’t be “cucked” you moron. She isn’t fucking the male streamer, either, but that’s literally irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33687016
Everything that it means to be an idol is gone as soon as you turn it into a sick and wrong fantasy of today's society.
> BEING A KEK
No, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33686654
Don't you get bored of being so predictable?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33686939
Not him, but generally my gf tells me about every interaction she has with men because she wants to know if they are trying to flirt and if she has to keep them at a distance.
I dislike a lot of you anons who come to /vt/ just to get mad at virgins and their lack of experience when you kind of out yourselves as being very experience weak in life yourselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>33673768
FPBP

[Anonymous No.]

>>33686901
Forget IRL, you can literally just go to another company. Which is what makes this decision so strange, it's throwing away one of the major distinctions Hololive has to chase after the competition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33687178
Regardless of how you look at it, it's wrong for an idol to interact with someone of the opposite sex. Stop living in a fantasy, for something the group got stuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33687268
They keep rationalizing that "oh it's only some of the girls, the others are completely free to stay man free," but then the majority of the group collabs lately have men in it to intentionally exclude the other girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>33687220
That sounds like a really unhealthy relationship but I guess women really are cutest when they are almost retarded, huh? My girlfriend doesn’t tell me every interaction she has with men and I don’t tell her every interaction I have with a woman because that’s insane and weird and because we’re adults who trust each other. And if I don’t worry about her talking to a guy, you can imagine how little I care about a woman who I watch make minecraft houses talking to a guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33687268
Why watch hololive when I could watch Niji now with streamers that have more consistency or vshojo with streamers that can stream whatever the fuck they want because they are not stuck in permission hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33687285
Lol my dude your idol shit *literally* only exists as fantasy. You have got to be trolling with this smooth brain shit…

[Anonymous No.]

>>33686939
>noo everyone has to be a whore like me!
My oshi is yandere tier and demands insane restrictions, even if it's just a joke I'm glad she has that stance because it means that she wants her partner completely exclusively

[Anonymous No.]

>>33687430
Its not, most women don't understand when men are flirting with them and if your girl never asked you, it either does mean shes getting flirted up at work and doesn't realize it, or she specifically isn't telling you.
Its a life experience thing, once you get to be an older man and have had some more women under your belt, you will understand some of these a bit more

[Anonymous No.]

>>33687387
This is the worst part of this kronii shitfest. It's one thing to fuck herself up on her own, but she even drags the management to do damage control for her. Now twitter trannoids and drama chasers will see it as yagoo himself 'subtly' encourage ALL HOLOS to collab with males and any holo who doesn't want to do it will be slowly ostracized and turned into pariahs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33687542
You don't know anything about idols if you think they can do whatever they want, especially when it comes to this kind of thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>33687387
How common its become is definitely adding fuel to the fire. I suspect if we were getting one crossover a month, people would bitch about it, but be mostly able to ignore it, but the deluge is keeping the drama fresh and the wound raw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33687588
Lol you are literally one of a million people pretending that. If it works for her, great, but Rushia got bit in the ass playing with fire with crazy losers like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33687542
>why are these anime girls not acting like my real whores?
>I must make them act like everyday women!

[Anonymous No.]

>>33687667
Of course, but the point to make is about the concept itself, it's ultimately not an ideal to criticize

[Anonymous No.]

>>33673726
Stop selling Dakis and doing ASMRs if you don't want to attract that kind of crowd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33687666
I literally gave tempus a try at the beginning and all the collabs made me stop watching them, its wayyy too many collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>33687667
Rushia got bit in the ass because she's mentally ill herself

[Anonymous No.]

I just hope the girls understand and are mentally prepared when their paychecks become smaller in the following months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33687667
Literally the same thing would have happened with any other member, she was not to blame, Rushia did nothing wrong, but from this we know what much of the community is really like. If from one day to the next we find out that some member has a boyfriend, it just wouldn't be the same anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

Sorry, but vtubers is a MALE SPACE where the girls entertain US. When a m*le comes into this space to "have fun" with (ie get entertainment from) our OSHI, it destabilizes everything. He is a USURPER. AN INVADER. We are peaceful until we feel replaced, NIGGER.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33673726
Go away.
You anti-gachikois spam and make more mess than gachikois. Another fucking thread died just to fuel your ego, redditard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33687657
If you think hololive is the same as disgusting idols with their hand shaking events and phony bullshit you are more deluded than I thought. Hololive is an entertainment company that uses idol window dressing to provide a greater range of variety. More often than not it is a punchline. If you want idols, go watch real idols and leave us alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33673768
And this is why /vt/ is a mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33687764
I bought three dakis from them this summer and fuck unicorns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33687910
oh fuck off you snake, if you pitch something people will expect you to stand by it

[Anonymous No.]

>>33687992
Why sell yourself as an idol in the first place, then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33687970
This is exactly what all unicorns actually boil down to, and also why they need to be driven out of this hobby. You aren’t entitled to anything from these girls. You’re irrelevant in real life why the fuck do you think you deserve to be some gigachad online where you actually matter less? It’s hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688116
I'm not telling you that it wasn't an unpleasant situation, don't get me wrong. It was an accident, even so, many of us were disappointed, that's why what happened happened. Now they're doing it on purpose and they're forcing it, that's the difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33687992
Reddit clipwatchers deserve eternal hellfire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688274
No one ever asked a man within the group.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33673768
legend
>>33673726
eat a bag of dicks

we gonna need a containment board for the male vtubers. shit is so goddamn cringe just seeing it makes me fucking spew.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688052
We joke about people being schizos and mentally unwell but if you're actually buying that shit and you aren't a unicorn then you actually, seriously need to get help. At the very least your entire family hates you if you buy shit like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688274
What's worse than a white knight? A white knight for a vtuber. You wanna talk about pathetic!

[Anonymous No.]

>EN does not collab with guys for two years
>some holos collab and nobody gives a shit a shit because it's only some and they have managed their expectations correctly
>suddenly debut starsEN
>OK
>suddenly make them collab with majority of EN girls
>not OK anymore
>reeks of agenda pushing
>reeks of rebranding
>reeks of reeeee this is encroaching on my girl-only entertainment territory
if you don't understand why this shit makes some people mad then YOU are the delusional one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688426
>containment board for the male
No point in that, when soon there would be nothing but fucking unity, equality collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688274
>entitled

I am entitled to post my opinion on this board last time I checked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688166
Why pitch yourself as a shark? Why pitch yourself as a dog? A shrine maiden? A clock-woman? It’s a prop, just a cute little prop to make the avatar they use more entertaining, but we don’t want to like fully engage with pretending that character is the real person. We know it’s not real. The real person is who we actually give a shit about, and the real person is who entertains us. And the more bullshit restrictions you put on them, the less genuine the interaction. You are trying to force them to lie. Do you really expect them to respect a fanbase that demands to be lied to for weird sexual reasons?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688274
Want to speak in absolutes? Okay. The homos are all prone to accruing yumejoshi, yet you likely don’t bat an eye at this. This would make them similar to your narrative, but I doubt you’ll try to give them shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33674689
>don't like don't watch!
>w-wait you can't actually not watch!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688555
Bae from very much the second she debuted showed interest in male vtubers.

Did kronii ever do that in any way shape or form before this bullshit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688685
>confusing the roommate with the chuuba
Every time. Alright, back to twitter, faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688274
dude the “unicorns” literally just means simps that actually donate money to the idol, meaning that idols don’t have to continue catering to them, but they don’t have to keep donating either.

it’s the Mexican standoff of the idol world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688685
And who told you they wanted this in the first place. This is what the company demands because they want more money for themselves, not for the girls. They know very well that no one ever wanted this. If you don't know, don't talk, be a little more mature, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.]

>americans
>lack of self awareness
>moral crusading on irrelevant shit while getting fucked in the ass by their real owners
what else is new

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688564
lmfao, not a fucking chance, especially when the donations dry up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688564
God we can only hope so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688274
>You aren’t entitled to anything from these girls
OK. Well, they aren’t entitled to my money either, and they aren’t entitled to the superchats, memberships, and merchandise that me and many others like me willingly purchase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33673768
based

[Anonymous No.]

I want my cake and eat it too and if any of you bad people have a problem with that then f*ck you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688737
No. People were legitimately surprised when she did, I saw people here saying she'd be a hold-out like some of the others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688685
People like you who just want to trivialize everything and downplay it is the reason why the group declined in growth and popularity

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688685
dude that’s like saying an actor should be able to ignore their script.

this is the business they went into, literally comes with the territory. if they want to reject that they should look for a new job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688805
If you think any of the girls has ever pretended to avoid speaking to men for any reason other than not getting inundated by hate from deranged incels then you are entirely delusional.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33676072
>trannies got someone else to commit suicide for once
What a weird timeline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688691
Tempus is actually pretty good at not leaning into that, which is why they are a lot more watchable than the niji boys

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688983
possibly got pressured into it by some force within EN. managment? Mori?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33689012
Well, that's their job, my friend. Nobody here wants to see their oshi desecrated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33689012
Why do you love to talk about cock so much? Are you projecting, perhaps?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688751
To be fair, unicorns literally means fans who want their oshi to not have any interactions with men, that’s why they are called unicorns. As in the mythical creature who cannot be touched by anyone other than a pure virgin woman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33676072
This

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688691
The group did not decline in growth or popularity. The group is, in fact, an industry-leading powerhouse. Let’s not pretend otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

Let me tell you anons something as a vshojo faggot.
This will only get worse get out now if you dont like this.
The girls will pander to a specific fanbase until they made enough money and after that they will tell them to fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33689324
You wait for people to lose interest because they act like any woman today and lose charm faster than a woman in her forties.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688828
That’s fine; stop giving and go away and we’ll see if we can get some less shitty people to make up the difference without being weird smelly incels. Everybody wins!

[Anonymous No.]

>>33689396
Post your superchat history mr non smelly incel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33684741
>Be a mentally ill fan
>Barely a threat because can't plan or execute anything well.
>Be unhinged paparazzi
>Actually cause Princess Diana, one of the most popular women in the world, to get killed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33689396
Do you really think the group will go anywhere without the premise they grew up on in the first place?, Bitch, please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33676072
Oh god I hope he actually does it. This is the way for the rest of you, please take this route!

[Anonymous No.]

>>33676072
Jesus christ good riddance to fucking retards like this
Less retards the better, Idol culture and Unicorn pandering culture are NOT THE FUCKING SAME YOU FAGGOT NEWFAG TRANNY MOTHERFUCKER SON OF A WHORE ILLITERATE CUNT
Otherwise he is correct, Hololive built it's foundation on Unicorn culture and should've stuck to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33689440
Here no one is wishing harm on anyone, we only want the best for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688685
Shut the fuck up you retarded nigger, I don’t give a fuck about the person behind the avatar, I want them to be entertaining. Not turn their streams into their own personal blogspot for their day to day lives and relationships. This was never supposed to be a vehicle for failed rappers, streamers, and voice actors to rebrand under a company and steal an audience built off the work and goodwill of others. Holoen has been a colossal mistake and its attracted nothing but grifters and opportunists to this hobby.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33689211
and they are the one’s that simp, famalam. they are the one’s who fucking donate.
you think fucking Mori can get by with just her garbage rapping?
you think that’s how she got where she is?
LMFAO OFC NOT! dude’s simped after her because of the sexy avatar with her chill personality. if she starts interacting with dudes the illusion gets broken and simps will feel cucked, meaning they STOP FUCKING PAYING OUT.

[Anonymous No.]

IT'S ABOUT THE PERSOOON AND FREEEDOM AND WEEEH AND WEEEH, SHUT UP BITCH THIS CLOCK IS A WHORE AND A BORING WHORE ON TOP OF THAT

[Anonymous No.]

>>33689144
Lol it’s like you aren’t really listening to this person you claim to love. How could you listen to Kronii for a year and imagine she would ever give a shit about avoiding talking to dudes? Avvng

[Anonymous No.]

c-man was right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33689560
>>33689606
You who wish evil on others are the ones closest to evil

[Anonymous No.]

>>33689658
Well, I would agree, and I mostly do, but cuckbeats are predictable in their retardation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33673726
https://streamable.com/b0jfcp

[Anonymous No.]

>>33689396
>stop trying to protect the thing you love! JUST LET US KILL IT!!!

lmfao, get fucked faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33689710
It is one thing to say things and quite another to do them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33689144
I doubt it. Maybe management explicitly mentioned that they're allowed to collab, but I doubt it went past that, and maybe Mori excitedly shilling the idea to the entire group. If there was any real pressure, I think we'd be seeing something very different from most of the talents. Kronii's probably just dumb.

Or at least, I think she was up until the recent twitter thing. That might have some executive semen stains on it from people whispering into her ear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33689145
Desecrated? Are you listening to yourself? By talking to male coworkers while playing video games for entertainment? Can you even dress yourself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33689885
This industry was build on lonely japanese man

[Anonymous No.]

>>33689735
Where do you think you are?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33689658
Mori is a bad example. You knew what you signed up for. You can be disappointed, but not surprised. Ditto on Bae.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33689885
How naive can you be? They are men, they think like men. If they entered it was for only one thing. Men only want one thing. And it's fucking disgusting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33689439
I rotate memberships among EN but I don’t SC regularly because it doesn’t put much in the girls’ pockets. I try to put that money towards merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33673883
Ya got me good buddy

[Anonymous No.]

>>33674456
>Imagine the fat dude who posted this irl
so it's the same like watching mori?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33690028
Post your merch then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33689606
Lol go someplace else then , it sounds like hololive isn't what you are looking for. Bye!

[Anonymous No.]

>>33690074
Kek be careful, jannies shut down mori fatposting hard lately

[Anonymous No.]

>>33689860
i’m thinking more like it was emotional manipulation and begging, but from within EN management, also maybe from holofags and Mori too.

far more believable that they tried to manipulate kronii by appealing to her good nature rather than straight up coercion

[Anonymous No.]

>>33673768
Hail King

[Anonymous No.]

>>33690136
Good thing I said en you dumb niggerfaggot, the audacity of discord trannies like you to astroturf the board and try to tell anyone else to leave. Kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>33690136
The one who should go is you, what he said is correct

[Anonymous No.]

>>33689658
Lol Calli collabed with Rikka less than 9 months after debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688274
Like that other anon said, the only thing more pathetic to normalfags than a unicorn, is a simp like you
Look at how many people made fun of pokimanes fanbase with her boyfriend drama and all her fans said exactly the same as you, normalfags don't like you and you aren't "more normal" than any of the unicorns you despise so much, you're actually worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688737
We know the situation Kronii is in, obviously she's being manipulated from the inside to do all this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33689806
Lol I’ve seen what you consider “saving” and we’re better off without it

[Anonymous No.]

>>33688685
Kson got way less entertaining with talent freedom faggot, every vtuber who has gone in this "unrestrained" direction has gotten way fucking worse, uou are a fucking cretin for suggesting it just to stroke your ego, you don't give a shit about any of these girls, you just lack the backbone to tell them when they are fucking up

[Anonymous No.]

>>33673883
Oh crikey!

[Anonymous No.]

>>33690078
Lol yeah I’ll get right on that for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>33690330
You can deny reality all you want, but when you see that the group is canceled due to lack of fans, you will be the first to regret it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33690234
Well last week Sora talked to Axel so I guess you still have to leave. A-Chan seems to be introducing him to everyone so watch for him to be joining your favorite streams soon!

[Anonymous No.]

>>33690322
Lol you sound like the vtuber version of qanon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33690459
lol, fraud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33690459
Would be nice. Am just trying to filter out the virtual signaling twitter faggots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33690459
I bet you look cute in some of it, so why not, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33676072
this is happening everywhere in the world because of the shit wigger culture imposed by usa through all media

[Anonymous No.]

>>33690154
Unlikely. That would be extremely unprofessional and borderline abusive. EN Management is incompetent, but I don't think they're quite that bad, if any other talents (or corporate) found out about that they'd get a one-way trip to the dog house.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33673768
B-B-BAAASED!

[Anonymous No.]

>>33690517
>regret it

they literally don’t give a fuck. this is just the next battle in the culture war, the next “bridget” shitstorm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33690405
You’re not entirely wrong; Kson got less entertaining because she lost the ability to be the most outrageous person in the room, and bounce off a whole team of friends with different personalities. It’s not really her fault, but she undeniably suffered for it. Hololive provides the lines on the tennis court that allow for an entertaining game of tennis, but that’s mostly the conceit about aspiring to an idol aesthetic, something both males and females can do. All of them are at their best when they strain against those pretend restrictions to create humor and conflict. That has nothing to do with “boys and girls shouldn’t speak to each other.”

[Anonymous No.]

>>33690723
The people who are against real idols are the same ones who have no values nowadays. They just do a little bit of activism to make themselves feel better, but in reality they are disappointing and depressed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33690517
Lol okay buddy, let’s see if that’s the way it goes.

[Anonymous No.]

Lmao it's just streamers with animu pics. You put words in their moths and assign them roles to justify your mental illness and laziness to lose weight and socialize kek. Imagine getting this heated over some skanks on the internet going "uuu the gust of wind hurt me guess I won't stream for 2 days *GLUG-GLUG-SLURP-GULP" kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>33690734
if they have become “friends” of the talents, i could see it not getting called out.

just remembered someone recently asking Gura about the EN Troon, and she claimed to know nothing about them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33690786
the idol “tennis game” has “perception of idol purity as a rule.” failing to follow it means graduation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33690833
Do not say I did not warn you

[Anonymous No.]

Yesterday I searched for the yuri tag on a website and half of the results had 3somes with a male involved that was kinda bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33690557
Why would I give a shit if he talked to Sora faggotchama? Sora talks to everyone, thats what the daisenpai does. Again you are an embarrassing faggot who is somehow even more parasocial then the “unicorns” you try to shit on with your retarded idea that you are gonna learn all about and grow close to the roommate instead of just enjoying the vtuber and their streams. Save yourself and everyone else the trouble and die on purpose posthaste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33690865
Literally the popularity of these girls comes through idol culture, take that away and it's garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33690969
No it doesn’t.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33691034
No it doesn’t.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33691004
I get my enjoyment in streams from cute anime girls doing cute stuff how can I do that with males involved?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33677597
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>33691004
What makes hololive good is that every hire they have ever made has been a vtuber who didn’t have to pretend to be anything other than their roommate. How can you be so emotionally invested without understanding even that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33691102
Yes, yes it does. Do you think people will stay when they see that you are talking to other guys? when they realize they have the same grace and charisma as the average Karen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33691034
Nah they're popular because of memes and game streams. Also not idols, 95% of them are lazy skanks that are idols just as much JAV girls are idols kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>33690786
I was ranting to my gf about this earlier and I'd rather not blog to you about it as well, but in group dynamics, male/female groups don't work as well as all the same gender groups because men and women pick up social cues differently and when a member of the opposite sex is involved, it messes that entire sensor up.

With men, we know how to banter, and when one of us goes to far and we see the small indicators that it might have stung the other guy, we generally notice it and instinctually make it up to them by bringing them up in a conversation in a good/exciting light because you enjoy being friends with them.
When you add a woman to the mix, a woman is more likely to not understand how to banter right, push it too far while goading another guy to also push it,and then the woman will notice it was too far but instead of how a man will respond, women will generally apologize, and it causes the man that joined in to also apologize, causing a very strange and uncomfortable situation all around.
This exact scenario happened with ollie, magni and vesper during apex and i've seen this happen a lot before during dnd or mmo guilds.

This kind of thing doesn't apply to just a pair of man and woman, but in a group dynamic its where all these social group cues get fucked and its why all these collabs are just bad in general.
Look to nijiEN and how every mixed gender group collab comes down to the women baiting the men to say something homosexually charged because the women completely misunderstand banter.
Its the reason why nina got a lot of hate from even the female fans, she was rubbing the group collabs the wrong way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33691196
They're*

[Anonymous No.]

>>33691128
With the direction holoen is going, if that is your taste you may have to start looking elsewhere. Some of holoen is still like you said, but who knows if it will stay that way. A good amount of holojp is still like that. If the company changes in a way that isn’t what you liked about it and ceases to produce what you enjoy you should absolutely dump them like a sack of rocks. Never eat shit and pretend to like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33691231
Your way of seeing things is simply deluded and sick at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33691196
Plenty of them are already doing this and remaining quite popular. Including an average Karen.

[Anonymous No.]

This is the best and the worst thread on /vt/ at the same time

[Anonymous No.]

>>33691189
Kek thats funny, you are saying how important it is to foster a connection to the real person when its just a fucking streamer yet im the one who is too emotionally invested. Leave your psy 101 shit at the door your dumbfuck redditor, its not impressing anyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33691240
The most successful Korean idol group members are of the same sex for a reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>33691310
His popularity plummeted for a reason, keeping the numbers is not necessarily good, on the contrary, they have already stagnated because of people like you, without vision.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33690897
I don't think Kronii's manager would risk burning her like that. Tricking her into doing something she might regret is always a bad idea long-term. If it was anyone else, then we come back to the other talents probably finding out about it and probably getting angry about it. It is in all of their interests that management remains professional and they maintain as much personal control as possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33691240
Some of the best chemistry that has ever happened in hololive has been between men and women.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33691189
They are literally telling you "we are going to cuck you", to your face, and you are so stupid that you believe them

[Anonymous No.]

>>33691515
Since this Homostars nonsense I'm not surprised this is the quality you've come to expect from Streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33691515
Proof?

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>>33691240
I thought most people knew this already. Even from a young age, I could tell that guys and girls interacted in different ways that may end up being uncomfortable. People not liking mixed gender stuff doesn't seem that unusual.

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>>33691467
You think you can spur growth entirely based on unicorns? You overestimate how many incels there are to go around. Getting rid of unicorns is the only way to achieve actual sustainable growth.

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>>33691472
The interests of the company always come first, they do not care so much about their most successful members, but rather about the irrelevant ones. (HOMOSTARS)

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>>33691606
I’m sure it’s all shit you would say you hated, like Altare and Kobo.

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>>33691657
Many times a loyal follower who is going to keep someone over time is better than leaving as soon as he loses interest, because he doesn't even know what he wants.

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>>33691653
Yes of course, that’s why most people interact with only their own gender socially, oh wait they absolutely do not.

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>>33691515
Vesper carrying bae is not something to brag about, roberu and mea are not hololive
Mori has never been in a good collab, ever, without the other person having to carry her dead body

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>>33691517
Does cuck even mean anything real anymore? You people have debased it entirely.

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>>33691657
And how do you explain the difference in popularity between EN and all the other sectors? Simply the quality of its content is not on par with the rest of the world, no matter how much you want to deny it and pretend.
Ask any Japanese within the country what they think about EN and you will understand that they don't like their content because of all this I have already mentioned before.

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>>33691240
Unironically get female friends
And no, your imaginary girlfriend doesn't count

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>>33691734
only literal fags have interaction with women that does not involve pursuit of pussy.

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>>33691695
Kobo is an underage girl who only knows how to corrupt the rest of the members and barely maintains her mental stability. She is the member with the most male collaborations for a reason and she only knows how to shout meaningless insults. She literally one of the worst members of HoloLive.

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>>33691734
They do hang out with their own gender most of the time. There are exceptions for the "various genders," but this is the norm.

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>>33691734
Mixed genders only interact in a group setting because they were forced together due to have a common friend/interest.
Key word is forced.
In most situations, male x female groups are unusual and its usually an indicator of being too young in inexperienced to have been through awkward mixed groups

Double dates are passable, but one couple and three single people generally rubs the wrong way as opposed to just a group of all guys/girls

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>>33691864
now now, anon. she also knows a lot about shit and feces, and how to talk about poop.

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>>33691734
The entertainment you consume than what you do within your own social circle is something completely different. If I want to be cuckolded, it takes me less than ten minutes to find a girl like that on the street. Why would I want to see someone like that when I can be with one?

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>backlash against male singer destroys his career
>you sleep
>backlash against korean singer destroys her career
>you sleep
>some people bitch about listening to men in a idol youtuber's stream
>BOI

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>>33691948
also how to scare the shit out of ollie with her nazi teaching methods. poor girl sounded traumatized.

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>>33691813
I have my gf's friend and we've gone on double dates with her and her boyfriend
When i was young and dumb like you, i had a lot of female friends, its bad and a sign a immaturity

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>>33691857
Lol that’s the kind of thing people who read books about PUA but have never kissed a girl would absolutely confidently say on fucking 4chan in a conversation about vtubers lol

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>>33691864
Rope now clip watcher

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>>33691985
Terminally online people like to larp as mentally well adjusted people by attacking people they see as more unhealthily invested than they are
Its always been this way

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>>33691901
Most social events I go to are roughly 50/50. Maybe you don’t have friends?

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>>33691985
>backlash against [Shit i dont care about]
>I sleep
>some people bitch [Shit i care about]
>I care

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>>33692108
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>>33692033
Not him but if you have a very limited time on this earth.
If you are spending the majority of your time on vtubers, and the smaller amount of time on real women you are too afraid of asking out, you are intentionally causing your ancestors to roll in their grave for their bloodline to end with you

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>>33691864
I stopped reading at “corrupt” because this is the real world not warhammer 40k, Lord Inquisitor Maidenless.

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>>33692033
He is right. The immature is you. After a certain age it is not the same to be with girls.

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>>33691925
Lol “Bros, is it gay to hang out with women?”

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>>33692108
You sound like you are 105 lbs and make annoying gay noises to amuse women who aren't interested in you at your shitty 5e homebrew sessions

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>>33691976
Honestly I wonder what you sad halu boys mean by cuckolded. THEY AREN'T FUCKING YOU. THEY AREN'T GOING TO FUCK YOU.

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>>33691925
Honestly, entertainment has nothing to do with real life. If you seek to socialize with the opposite sex, it is for one purpose, to reproduce. After marriage and children there is no purpose in relating to the opposite sex. It makes no sense to compare real life to a group of idols.

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>>33692204
It's immature on both men and women to hang out with the opposite sex as just friends, its always the most lonely young adults on earth coping with this type of mindset

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>>33692175
Maybe not in whatever third world shithole you live in where you keep women in breeding pits, but where I live men and women associate freely.

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>>33692123
She made her choice. Let her play the victim it's good marketing.

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>>33692298
Tell the holoe girls that, they are taking their cues from vshojo and nijisanji, who make shipping the goal of their mixed gender collabs

When kronoi tried to say shipping was gross, she was immediately made to apologize when she woke up in the morning because its the plan

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>>33692108
Maybe you're a teenager?
>>33692274
It's frowned upon from the point of view of what an idol would do, that's what I mean
If you are not able to understand why, it is because you do not have values and they did not teach you anything at home.

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>>33692298
This is a deeply mentally ill perspective and I beg you to seek help.

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>>33692368
Grow up then we talk
And if you are already an adult, you will not get anywhere with that childish mentality

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>>33692307
Says the basement dweller

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>>33692427
That's a pragmatic perspective, read a dictionary instead of just being a EoP clipwatcher who has the lexicon of a 15 year old girl on twitter

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>>33692274
Shut the fuck up you worthless seanig. Disgusting seamonkeys always want to spread your shipcuck fetish outside your shithole of a country.

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>>33692425
Oooh I understand now. You live in some backwards medieval cesspool country where everybody goes to church and wears long pants and shit. Okay, never mind, I don’t care what you think anymore.

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>>33692483
Im 30, have a gf and my own apartment in an expensive city m8, you have to stop projecting, this is how we can tell you're immature, we were all there once, your young and just haven't experienced enough of anything to really have an opinion on anything that other people haven't just fed to you

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>>33692552
I live in the real world, unlike you, who act like a teenager with no responsibilities.

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>>33692518
Its already happening anjing you just need to sit and take it. We will see who ends up being right jancuk

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>>33692552
You're too young to be on this website.

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>>33692552
Is attacking different cultures your idea of combatting the criticism that you're immature?
Do you not understand the cultural background of the hobby you are involved in?

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>>33674506
That's this entire board, don't kid yourself

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>americans
>knowing shit about culture

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>>33692577
Oh! An expensive city AND a girlfriend! Well then I am certain you must be right about vtubers m’lord!

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>>33692628
You are literally telling me this on a 4chan thread about being mad at cartoon women playing minecraft lol

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>>33692673
I understand the problems with the hobby. Don’t worry, we are in the process of fixing it currently.

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>>33692629
Go eat your reclining oshi's shit, seamutant.

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>>33674506
Oh look, the real faces of seagoblins who pushed for more male collabs.

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>>33691695
That isn’t proof to me, though. As a matter of fact, your answer is making me doubt your claim even more so, considering it’d be only one (shitty) example. ID isn’t the entire history of Hololive.

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>>33673768
fpbp

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>>33693165
Don’t worry, the ones with Gura and Kiara that will be happening over the next six months will give you many examples.

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y'all need to get laid fr fr

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>>33679107
The only homo here is you nigga get the rope

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>>33688816
Keep seething dumbass hololive is gonna just keep getting more and more popular and those dudes are too lol

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>>33693433
Oh, so you’re just a retard. At least try next time, anon.

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>>33693857
>y’all
Here’s a free (You).