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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>89,156: Pekora (Hololive)>29,076: Hololive Indonesia (Hololive)>24,929: Lamy (Hololive)>21,554: Subaru (Hololive)>20,820: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>16,775: Gura (Hololive)>16,415: Kanae (Nijisanji)>16,105: Nose (VSPO)>15,537: Mumei (Hololive)>14,884: Chloe (Hololive)>14,076: Koyori (Hololive)>13,892: Kanata (Hololive)>13,734: Fubuki (Hololive)>13,669: Koyori (Hololive)>11,724: Ina (Hololive)>11,536: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)>11,479: Iroha (Hololive)>11,214: Runa (VSPO)>11,143: Sasaki (Nijisanji)>10,936: Shiina (Nijisanji)>10,926: Toko (Nijisanji)>10,816: Sango (Nijisanji)>10,068: Linglan (The Box)
>>33673472easier for them people to rationalize the shrinkage when you see the stark contrast from this years and last years anniversary. Guras live doing less viewers than either of her 2 first outfits. Also easier for them to acknowledge it when their competition is also stagnating or reclining aswell rather than exponentially growing like they did the first half of the year.
>>33673619>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live4) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 87,145 - New outfit reveal5) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,743 - Dragon Quest Monsters6) Marine (Hololive) - 45,140 - Super Smash Bros.7) Sora (Hololive) - 84,063 - 5th anniversary 3D live8) Botan (Hololive) - 88,981* - 3D birthday stream w/NePoLaBo9) Miko (Hololive) - 39,905 - HoloCure new update10) Marine (Hololive) - 50,041 - HoloCure new update11) Subaru (Hololive) - 41,806* - Persona 4 Golden12) Tsukasa (Indie) - 56,583 - Streamer league mahjong13) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,118 - Rust14) Miko (Hololive) - 34,041 - Rust15) Suisei (Hololive) - 59,604 - Karaoke + announcement16) Moona (Hololive) - 87,402 - 3D showcase17) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81,240 - Kuzuha Cup PUBG18) Gura (Hololive) - 92,264 - 3D live19) Pekora (Hololive) - 96,590 - Fate/Grand Order20) Pekora (Hololive) - 89,156 - Fate/Grand Order>PER COMPANY17x: Hololive2x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER5x: Pekora2x: Ayame, Marine, Miko1x: Botan, Fuwa, Gura, Moona, Nijisanji, Sora, Subaru, Suisei, Tsukasa>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY167x: Hololive85x: Nijisanji6x: Neo Porte4x: Indie1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER34x: Pekora16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Miko, Salome10x: Nijisanji, Subaru8x: Marine6x: Hal, Hololive5x: Gura, Kanata, Mio, Suisei, Toya4x: Flare, Fuwa, Noel, Okayu, Towa3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Polka2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Moona, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta
How do we save Nijisanji? It's not even competitive right now.
https://hololive.hololivepro.com/en/news/20220921-01-12/>In addition, hololive production x Among Us collaboration merch will be released to celebrate this collaboration. Details for the collaboration merch will be available soon, so please stay tuned for further information!
Among Us bros, how do we feel right now?
>>33673668EVERYONE in western streaming is shrinking. Twitch metrics down as well from start of the year (Dramabomb happening not-withstanding). Talking about facts of the situation and understanding things is better than 20 dumb timeloops over inane bullshit.
You guys know that Shonen Jump has a huge female fanbase and the target audience is for teen boys, right?
>>33673762HoloSUS plushies.
>>33673730Wait 10 months for the next Koshien.
>>33673762>merchSay again?
>>33673763Like a Sussy baka
>>33673762AhhhhhAnd now the low price for the full-set of cosmetics makes even more sense.
Who made the first ogey?Imagine being that guy, he established the meta for all the shitposts and normies. When you think about Vtubers, the first thing coming into your mind is ogey, a lot of Vtubers and even indies have personalized ogeysThat guy is truly a living legend and the saviour of Vtubing
>>33673762>>33673829Get ready for everything room tour from every company to become fine the sus forma de Hololive
>>33673788Twitch is killing itself completely independent of audience interest in livestreaming. In that 5 hour stream Spiffingbrit calculated that Twitch will run out of money in roughly a year, after which Amazon presumably pulls the plug on the website.
We are never going back to the days when Myth could pull 20k+ for nearly anything and everything. You need to accept early EN was just a fad for a majority of people. Its like trying to make any of those had to be there internet events or something like twitch plays pokemon happen again.
>>33673790Somehow people think you need to be Luxiem-style coomerbait to attract a female audience, when most of the Tempus paypigs are girls despite the clear brotuber style.
>>33673762Where's my amogus skin riku? Even their indog branch got one
>>33673899Pekora herself
Why are there so many freaking merch runs right now?>HoloEN 2nd anniversary plushies>HoloID1 3D plushies>Holo Among Us merch>Not to mention previous BD and anni merch
>>33673929Saltybet streams in 2013.... take me back
>>33673668Out of curiosity, does anyone know what numbers are like for EN vtuber over on Twitch right now? Have they generally declined like YouTube EN vtubing, are they stagnant, or are they growing? Other than Shoto being at the top I don't know much.
>>33673929that was never the case though
>>33673980Cause that's how they make their money
The reading comprehension in the Catalog has deteriorated over the past few days.
>>33674012But enough about that, did you hear about Pekora's monkey?
>>33673790>he still thinks the target audience is for teen boysTeen boys aren't even their biggest demographic. They've shifted to be more focused on prioritizing general audience content. It's like saying marvel movies are made for teenagers because they're PG-13.
>>33673914It's a one-two punch of the audience going back to other forms of entertainment and Twitch bleeding out like a stuck pig, yea.
Someone was griefing with IRyS but she's still mogging Pomu...
>>33673668No one denied that the EN audience was shrinking, it was retards the kept on picking fights with HoloEN for slipping up even thought they're still the top dog in the EN sphere.
I don't even want to save EN anymore
>>33673980Merch is where they make the majority of their money, isn't it? That or sponsorships. Does anyone have the chart Asmongold drew?
>>33673788I wouldn't generalize like that unless we have actual youtube data. Twitch has a host of problems that don't really happen on youtube. Unskippable long ads, drama/react content dominating the top, just to name a couple.Is there any general reason for a dip in viewership over all platforms, other than just the end of COVID?
>>33673983Twitch Vtuber rarely break the 20k ceiling, and we are talking about Twitch number that can be easily inflated here
>>33673619Gurs will double those numbers once she plays FGO
>>33673983Shoto and Korean Whale/Ratlung are the top Vtubers of Twitch rn.
>>33673983Shoto panders to the Chinese, that's why he is still inclining. Makes you wonder why vtuber companies don't pander to China yet aside from Anykara.
>>33673980It's just a coincidence since there are a lot of anniversaries in August and September. The beginning of the year is pretty empty.
>>33674125No one want to take that riskYou either go China or the rest of the world
>>33674114She has to actually stream in order to do that
>>33674031That monkey is still alive and kicking and no I will not take my meds
what?https://twitter.com/Vox_Akuma/status/1572366608588218382
>>33674075Why do you want to save rich people people who don't really care in the first place
jwu, what did i miss?
>>33673952The most fujo bating thing a male Vtuber can do is have a genuine friendship with another guy
>>33673929EN was growing and recovering until Tempus debuted, this is when their ccv crashed
>>33674179Give IRyS like 20 minutes and she should surpass them
>>33673027>>33673397October and early November are the only possibilities for EN3 at this point. In October, nearly every weekend has nice open slots to debut in and there are large gaps between the birthdays. There is a big 10 day gap between the 21st and 30th with nothing happening. The only debut that month is also Rikka from Stars, so it's pretty much a free month. The first half of November is not too eventful besides Aruran's birthday and there is a good week and a half until then where a generation can debut. However, November is also more busy in the second half with AZKi debut, a couple of birthdays, and ends with HoloX debut week. December is already jam packed with debuts, birthdays, and is close to holiday season and New Year's, so that's 100% out of the question.If it doesn't happen in October or very early November, it's not happening this year. If Tempus WAS EN3 or they're actually retarded enough to delay a new girl EN generation to next year, then EN management is beyond saving.
>pippa over 1.2k againWhen will vrabi add PC as a legitimate company?
>>33674101>Is there any general reason for a dip in viewership over all platforms, other than just the end of COVID?The dip is just the return to pre covid numbers so yes the dip in viewership is due to covid being done.
>>33674183I mean, when the EN streaming scene is declining while CN scene is increasing, it's worth the risk than being poor. BUt most anti-Chinese Holofans can't understand.
>>33674125The mandate of heaven is fickle. You can achieve great heights and then be abandoned by it on the next day through no fault of your own.
>>33673929thats only gura.
>>33674231Twitch is having their final yab and Millie just tweeted she wants Vox to fuck her.
>>33674179Why the fuck is IRyS streaming outside her usual hours recently its killing her CCV and her cultivated audience on that timeslot
>>33674277When they open a JP branch
>>33674231Ame and Putin graduated
>>33674071Gura is the only that can get over 10k consistently, though.
>>33674309They have 3+ jp members!
>>33673983just grabbed whatever indies + top VSJs i could remember.
>>33674305It's only two hours earlier. She just gets killed by overlap no matter where she is.
>>33674125Because it's incredibly unstable.
>>33674183I mean, when the EN streaming scene is STAGNATING while CN scene is declining over fragile mom jokes, it's notworth the risk than being poor. BUt most Chinese Nji can't understand.
>>33673788Wrong. Even though the twitch is yabbing itself. This year is pretty crazy in perspective of a twitch numberfag. Kai and Adin just entered the scene and basically became xqc clones. It would be like if 2 Pekora's just entered the vtuber JP scene with their own loyal audience. You also have to include the speedy meta in YouTube with their own viewership bubble. So you really can't say EN streaming is dead. Still twitch is going to shit though because of drama so lol.
Problem with west male vtubing is Luxiem was the forefront and create a fujobaiting meta. That kind of stigmatized male vtubing making general public think that watching male vtuber is gay. Niji JP is not that bad and a lot of kuzuha audience is male.
>>33674343Japanese members or JP branch?
>>33674287>it's worth the riskIt isnt though especially after that report of that vtuber not getting paid by b2
The doomposting reminds me a lot of 2020, when the audition was announced. This might be good for EN3 since whoever /vt/ hates, they will incline.
>>33674214Huh, first alban and now vox. Millie has accepted herself as an accessory and full blown whore.
>>33674101>Youtube dataI hate to use the hack known as streamhatchet, but yea their numbers show a decline for streaming numbers on YT too. End of Covid restrictions everywhere and everything opening up is HUGE. That's a LOT more competition for streaming to deal with from an entertainment perspective.
what happened here?
>>33674356Can you take a look at Filian? She has very good viewership on her youtube shorts, I'm wondering how that translates.
>>33674356ugh the different scales used. I can't cross compare!
>>33674114>gura>playing fgoyou have better chance with ina
>>33674256If that rrat ends up being true I will believe every schizo rrat about EN management being scum. It would also explain the girls just shooting their feet to collab with Tempus because they know they aren't getting anyone anytime soon.
>>33674387I'll add that that it's not that EN streaming is dead. More like the old bloods of EN streaming are just dying and being slowly replaced at the moment.
>>33674422
>>33674287Holofag is not the only Chinese anti out there you close minded niggerNeed I remind you what happened to you Vox?
>>33674287nah going into china now would be like going all in into the ameircan real estate business back in 06
>>33674179>top 3 NijiEN girls are 3-5k Damn they're more popular than HoloENs boys.
I've been thinkingIs the Gura box stronger than both the NijiEN box and the HoloEN box?Gura probably has the highest amount of loyal viewers that will watch anything she does out of any EN vtuber, and I'm comparing her to twitch people tooCollabing with her might not bring any new viewers from the Gura box, but the signal boost alone is valuable
>>33674414Ame had Mumei and her own POV on stream.
>>33674356orcat <3
>>33674287>CN, Increasing>When NijiEN(CN) got blown the fuck out over ONE fucking joke and an Anti with a grudgeYea nah, all it takes is one simple error and someone wanting to take you out for the mandate of heaven to be lost. Not worth.
>>33674414Dual POV collab that really didn't need two POVs
>>33674414they stream too early is my cope
>>33674427https://twitchtracker.com/if you know their names/channels go look around. many numbers
>>33674287It's just a short term buff even if you're successful. Luxiem has already fallen off their peak quite rapidly. Chinese will always eventually turn on anyone not Chinese, and in the process you drive away normal fans.
>>33674462No shit? Gura is the only one who gets vods anywhere close to top tier JPs.
>>33674462No
>>33674462yeah
>>33674228>people unironically saying "God save the Queen/King" since medieval timeIt is common plebian mindset.
>>33674235I mean, it's the same with girls, it's not hard to understand Only coomberrot degenerates think about people fucking all the time
>>33674467mumei's stream just started later and was giga scuffed compared to ame, that's it
>>33674462The boost you get from gura is not from her box but the boost from her being a clip cheat code.
So, did anyone get stabbed yet?
>>33674500>Chinese will always eventually turn on anyone not Chinese, and in the process you drive away normal fans.This makes me wonder what would have happen with Aqua and Fubuki if the Taiwan Yab didn't happen.
>>33674462Yep gurabox is around 90k+
>>33674387Did I say DEAD?I said SHRINKING, the hours metric for Twitch show as much, and even if you have newcomers coming in, all they're really doing is sapping the blood from existing streamers, that's how it is over on Twitch. Pulling audience from off-platform is notoriously hard.
>>33674214Nice whoreshi you have there Nijipagpag
>>33674585nope but the people that went private on their soc media was up to 6 last time i checked.
>>33674256The moment Tempus was announced I moved my EN3 prediction to February 2023.
>>33674422Very mid, she's the twitch queen of dead followers. Most fans are clipwatchers because lets be real, longform VR chat streams are pretty dogshit.
>>33674411I want a free Millie cocksleeve tooI'd better apply to NijiEN
>>33674462People seem to entirely misunderstand the concept of "box".
>>33673762inb4 nijibeggars
All the talk about HoloEN shrinking but no one will address the elephant in the room.>Yagoo will use the money HoloJP generates to keep HoloEN on life-support until the company doesn't exist anymore.
>>33674427>>33674486https://twitchtracker.com/compare/channels/shylily,ironmouse,nyanners#20210920-20220919
>>33674387>Kaiyou know he's just being propped up by twitch to counter ishowspeed right?
>>33674676NijiEN gamers is open for auditions. Gon and gape her.
>>33674593B2 will find another way to kick hololive out but if they leave hololive for six months, at that time, it will be an even bigger shitstorm considering Aqua was entering Mainstream china
Since there is a clear NijiEN ban regards to Hololive do you guys think if Gura is available to collab with NijiEN they would accept?
>>33674593B2 would've found another reason to turf Hololive. They HATE outsiders having that much pull on their platform and would've just drummed up some minor issue into a mountain to do it.
For EN vtubing1. They need to distinguish themselves from fleshstreamers in terms of contents and personalities to stand out2. They need people with charisma and streams regularly3. Plaza Accord needs to be repealed
>>33674717Do people here actually think HoloEN is losing money?
>>33674593Some Chinese from outside their fandom would find something to pin on them and then use nationalism to bully their fans and try to run them out of the market. Probably would not have been entirely effective without bilibili orchestrating the whole thing through.
>>33674242There was NOTHING for EN during summer. No new outfits, no new girls, and a huge drop off in streams from everyone. Everyone's on break from university and all they did was debut males, which hurt the brand.
>>33674500>Chinese will always eventually turn on anyone not ChineseJokes on you, Chinese will turn on anyone including Chinese.
>>33674256>October, nearly every weekend has nice open slots to debut in and there are large gaps between the birthdays. Bro, May was an empty-ass month and nothing was released then. There's a very strong chance that there is no EN3 this year
>EN3 will happen in July>EN3 will happen in August>EN3 will happen in September>EN3 will happen in October>EN3 will happen in FebruaryYou are here>EN3 will happen in May>EN3 will happen by the end of the year>EN3 will happen in 2024 for sure now>EN3 will happen before the last remaining EN member graduates>EN3 will happen before hololive dissolves>I think EN3 might not happen afterall anons
>>33674767I think you mean the Louvre Accord
>>33674743Gura had trouble asking Towa for a Collab, she would mentally break if she had to ask another company to set up a collab
>>33674789Yes
>>33674409EN audition? If so its was /jp/ and after two years they were fucking right about HoloEN. Only Gura cares about follow the footsteps of their JP senpai the rest are western tier trash.Yes that includes IRyS you last samurai irystocraps
>>33674789No. Only shitposting faggots or genuine retards would believe that. That's like thinking selling out a concert means you're in the red, ffs.
>>33674789I do but I have to wear a special helmet if I go outside my house so maybe don't take my opinion into consideration.
>>33674819i've always maintained the oct/nov time frame
>>33674819fuck EN3 I want HoloKR
>>33674819nobody serious expected August if they did it was some grand gigacope shitposting.I pinned it either early July or late July and I got cocks instead unfortunately. October is my next guess.
>>33674826Probably Bretton Woods Agreement too?
How fast will the holo sus plushies sell?
>>33674717Are you retarded? Why do people think there's this much of an upkeep cost with vtubing?
>>33674818May was, I think, too soon for them to have gone through all the applications they got and picked out 5 people PLUS gotten the models and everything rigged and ready.
HISTORY WILL REPEAT AGAIN>EN Vtubing is in decline, just like JP in the past>HololiveEN all bunch of shitters, only gura is popular, just like JP and Aqua in the past>JP Gen 3 Debuts, sudden massive popularity spike, EN3 is around the corner nowTRUST THE PLAN. TRUST YAGOO
>>33674443If Tempus really is EN3 for this year I will have no hope for the EN branch.
>>33674818May was too early for a new gen going by their 1 year per gen speed. October would fit just right.
>>33674789Cover already made the money they spend on EN back X1000.
>>33674717Anon, you know that other than the initial cost of L2D and 3D plus outfits, a vtuber doesn't cost anything to maintain right?
>>33674879Treaty of Westphalen.
>>33674875I still believe that EN3 was for late july and tempus was for october but sana graduating forced them to switch places.
>>33674462First, you don't know what a box is, and second, no, 16K "post 3D live Zatsudan without any overlap" Gura isn't bigger than the rest of EN combined.
rip... https://youtu.be/M4dHwbX41J0those massive views...
>>33674819>Tempus won't happenYou are here
>>33674833Not saying Gura would even want to collab I don't think there is a chance Gura would even like collabing with Niji so I am saying if there is chance of Gura gonna be available like for a big collab do Niji gonna break their rule to get a chance on collabing with Gura?
>>33674915It would explain so much, Gura's depressive episode as she settles in for a long haul. Mumei and Gura's hard pivot to JP reps, the internal friction in the branch. My meds are failing.
>>33674930What the hell is that?
>>33674913>EN Vtubing is in decline, just like JP in the pastWhats funny is that this was the same feeling i had back prior to sankisei since i thought vtubing had peacked back then.
>>33674969What stream was this?
>>33674242>EN was growing and recovering until Tempus debutedNo it wasn't
>>33674872HoloKR will surely suck HoloEN audience>Especially if they stream like JP does
Wasn't last October the company mandated minecraft streams?
>>33674913Holoen need the en3 to be pure streamers that has no baggage.
>>33675032probably pekoras second FGO stream
>>33674743>"diamond city lights? what's that?"
>>33675006My bad, it's actually spelled Westphalia in english.
>>33674913HoloJP started as midgets. HoloEN started as giants and then shrinked to midgets. Big difference.
>>33674997Hell yeah they would. Even if the management says no, all the livers would revolt for that collab
>>33674971>Tempus won't happenWhy would anyone believe this after they opened audition for male english vtubers?
>>33675019>2019That was like ancient internet history. Problem with EN is that it doesn't have a dying website like niconico with lots of veterans to choose from.
>>33674913EN3 will happen but I'm frankly more interested in when JP7 will happen. Do people think it'll be this year? Maybe November?
>>33674960Factually wrong, Gura is bigger than any other Holo, don't let your envy blind you
>>33674969>>33675032>I'd put money on it being the animated intro after finishing Fuyuki. It gets auto-claimed. It even got taken down from Aniplex's own channel for a while because of how stupid Youtube's copyright system is
>>336739852013 was only 7 years ago, relax.
>>33675006End of the 80-Years War. Euro stuff.
>>33675094Twitch…
>>33675094>Problem with EN is that it doesn't have a dying website like niconicoIt does
>>33675111anon...
>>33675055Nah, EN3's are homo accessories anon>dont expect too much>EN3 is ILuna2.0
>>33675095April after Holofes. Id4 should be in february or may
>>33675095Fuck no. It will be Q2 next year
Can't tell if this is a joke about the "nijisanji is a family" twitter thing or whathttps://twitter.com/Fulgur_Ovid/status/1572403977853239297
>>33674913This is assuming their recruitment process improved and they don't hire the absolute disasters that were Sana and Kronii.
>>33675097>Gura is bigger than any other Holo>3D live mogged by Pekora's gacha stream>Barely beating fucking MoonaI know this is bait, but come on
>>33675090People endlessly shitposted about "they couldn't find anyone" right up until they appeared on the screen.
>>33675055They need EN3 to be 5 Kobos to bring in fresh viewers who haven't watched vtubers before.
>>336751111990 was 20 years ago as far as I'm concerned.
>>33675138>>33675145Twitch is not dying no matter how you wish for it.
>>33675078>HoloJP started as midgets.>NijiEN started as midgets.>HoloEN started as giants and then shrinked to midgets (except tourist event numbers)>Nijisanji started as giants and then shrinked to midgets. (except tourist event numbers)hmmmm
>>33674915If there is no EN3, fans will be mindbroken.
so is irys gonna break 5k or.....
>>33675138>>33675145I would rather burn EN to the ground than poaching people from that fucking place anon ...
>>33675111>Used to watch salty bet while eating lunch at collegeAIEEEEEEEEE
>>33675145I wonder how many of the twitch vtubers just follow the react meta because it's the way to grow on the platform, and would rather be playing games instead.
>>33675098Oh ffs.
>>33675151Nah I think JP7 comes first then ID3 and maybe Starsen single debut of that 5th member.
>>33675162Cover recruitment is super bad, I don't get why people praise them like the second coming of Jesus.
>>33675095They got enough people for now, wouldn't put it any earlier than like the middle of 2023.
>>33675138Talking about Twitch, do any of the Vshojo girls that stream there are going to be affected by the gambling ban?
>>33675131That is pretty inconsequential though with how fast Europe plunged into another war.
>>33675187People had 2/4 Tempus nailed as soon as holopro opened auditions for english speaking males.
>>33674819It's time to just accept that Tempus is EN3
>>33675197twitch is "dying" the same way nnd was "dying"their death isnt gonna be disappearance rather irrelevancy
Let's discuss some nijisanji en numbers shall we? Let's get some numbers up in here.
>>33675159I guess it's a joke, considering even Ironmouse did a "I LOVE VSHOJO" thing yesterday.
>>33675236ID3 already here, comachama
>>33675167CCV is irrelevant, only subs and VOD views coubt
>>33675241Because they were able to find hidden gems like Gura and Mumei. Virtual unkowns before holo
>>33675241Because compared to the competition they're infinitely better. That's not saying much, but still.
>>336751895 Kobos would end up cannibalizing themselves in the womb. You need a diverse group to balance the gen
>>33673678Good morning, SEA bro.
>>33675315if you're so desperate for a (you) i'll give you one
>>33675001>Removing the generation meme and titling them with a theme title was actually omegays long term plan to sneak a male gen in as a full genAHHHHH MY MEDSSSS
>>33674872Korea is anti-japan
>>33675203>NijiEN started as midgets.>He says this when Luxiem exists.
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1572381437659328514https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1572381437659328514https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1572381437659328514
>>33675288give me some interesting non-drama niji news instead
>>33675138The thing about twitch is that it has barely any top female streamers. Any of the ones that probably would become a vtuber have likely made the switch already
>>33675287>twitch will be irrelevant>saying this while xqc just had a 200k ccv stream for a nothingburger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLLvW0VSO4gas expected overlapping gura and reinemight not break 10k with this shit game
>>33675247Yeah, I wouldn't add JP7 until at least two girls either graduate or become permanent part-timers.
>>33675388Ah, of course Money Mori has to be a bigger ME ME ME than fucking Kiara.
>>33675310ID4 i mean
>>33675376Does this look like antis to youhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moU_n5J-gh0
>>33675288
>>33675288What numbers? EN number is shit without gura.
>>33675382Well the starting gens LOE was midgets and still midgets
>>33675422Poor goldfish brain anon who doesn't do his research.
>>33675382Luxiem was their 3rd gen.Lazulight and Obsydia were gen1 scouted from the same setEthyria was scouted as a second setLuxiem/Noctyx were the 3rd set scouted. Literally 3rd genned the branch again
>>33675424Shouldn't there be two POVs?
>>33675241Jesas if Cover recruitment is super bad, then what do you call Anykara recruitment
>>33675456Baffling post
>>33675095not even a fucking chance it's happening in november, that's jp6 anniversary month
>>33675230Most react streamers actually do play games too, it's just pretty easy to stream for long hours(which is essential for twitch) by reacting to stuff. Gives you ready made content and something to interact with your own chats reactions, rather than having to make a gaming stream entertaining for hours for thousands of people.
>>33675438Are you really seething over such an innocent tweet ?
>>33675427Let it go anon, there is no sign that JP7 is debuting. Cover deems HoloJP too unprofitable.
>>33675203NijiEN will continue to be midgets
>>33675484Wrong company sis
>>33675151>Id4 should be in february or mayNo audition yet, change that to September 2023
>>33675203I would agree it would be a nice parallel except for the fact that nijien wont be able to capitalize on that due to accelerate.
>>33675327The western scene is big enough that you can have 5 Kobos each targeted towards different popular cliques to leech off. The Fortnite Kobo, the react Kobo, the gambling Kobo etc
anybody knows when holostarsJP first debuted?
>>33675511Why not?
33675515Lol
>>33675438>saying you’re in a collab is now worth being mad overAre Morischizos jealous of all the success Kronii antis are having or something?
>>33675484If there are 2 then mumei is just fucking her numbers even more this month like a retard. Her numbers this month are already in the gutter
>>33675187Yeah same thing happened to holoX kek. People doomposting for weeks because Cover dropped Parsley's and Kakage's daughters.
>>33675241Cover recruitment is stellar when compared to the competition
>>33675078HoloJP started out as 2 view or lower. That's worse than midget.
>>33675241It's only bad if you compare it to an idealistic perfect recruitment, and not to other real examples.
>>336755408/June/2019
>>33675511I have nothing better to do with my life.
>>33675569Cover recruited gen 5 and holox who failed to expand the market unlike Luxiem, that automatically disproves your point
>>33675539They would be targeting the same people >>33675540Muyabi debut June 8, 2019
>>33675241because of how the other competitions recruitment.
>>33675636Rumao
>>33675241I mean compare to NijiThey at least hired Gura and Mori
>>33675636And Salome, which brings in thousands of tourists.
>>33675097> isn't bigger than the rest of EN combined>is bigger than any other Holo
>>33675636gen5 would not have been a failure if not for nene
We have some new streams. AAAIIEEEE Amare is stuck at 3view as usual.
>>33675241fuck off indie shitter
The problem with the western scene is the content that gets big numbers are all shit. In JP you can get 40k viewers playing tales of the abyss or talking like a baby while on twitch you can only get that kind of numbers playing zoomie fps, minecraft and/or dramabaiting every week.
>>33675524>>336755602 POVs actually make sense in this one. You tend to split up to solve puzzle and can only talk via Walkie Talkies. Every Holo who has streamed this game has always had 2 povs I think
>>33675241Better a Kronii than a Aia or a Ren
>>33675447Grim
>>33675241Cover recruitment especially for EN is pretty badGura: she's guraMori: could've found a way better music artist. She's mediocre at best and sucks at streamingKiara: most annoying voice known to mankindIna: pretty good hireAme: just a normal white girl that plays games, she's fine i guessMumei: hired from sub countKronii: lolSana: lmaoFauna: Hired for asmr but has shit asmrBae: just don't hire aussies man
>>33675636>Gen 5/6 failed numberrot schizo even though the JP box has filled out their floor to an unprecedented degree under them. lol
otsurei~
>>33675670Thansk for the new nousagis salome
>>33675681Now you are just saying western viewers like shit contents.
>>33675670>which brings in thousands of tourists.for Pekora
>>33675422Can’t even beat Koshien with sex crimes
>>33675680it's crazy there's 2 holox (and maybe even a 3rd) on pace to beat nene to 100m views
>>33675681Umm, anon the JP girls also get good numbers with Minecraft
>>33675670And pekora thanks you.
>>33675746They're right though.
>>33675636>still defending reclining luxiem
>>33675670dont mind me im just here to eat your tourists.
>>33675766Nene should pay for her sin.
Am I the only one who thinks Among US is kinda boring to watch? There really isn't much variety in how the game can be played. It's the same shit every time and most vtubers suck at it.
>>33675680>>33675680Wasn’t Nene actually went menhera over HoloX debut numbers?
>>33675636gen 5 failed, holox succeeded.
There's not a single VERSEn with even just 1 million channel views.
>>33675740the nowa influence is too strong
>>33675746
>>33675746I mean is he wrong?
>>33675820WTF, rabbits eat people?
>>33675718I know this is a shitpost, but the majority of Fauna's fanbase doesn't watch her for ASMR
>>33675746that's right>>33675786obviously, but they get good numbers not just for that.
>>33675740>January
>>33675241>Cover EN recruitment is super badfixed
>>33675863not even their top median koyori is beating botan and lamy
>>33675820If Pekora is their only advantage, Cover might be more fucked than I thought
>>33675863wrong, gen5 thriving, holox succeeded, council sucked
>>33675871Have you seen Monty Python? Those fuckers are monsters
>>33675249None from vshojo or /lig/ that I can recall, unless they started doing that recently after I stopped caring about twitch.
Another day, another gold for HololiveHow are they so powerful?
>>33675952male collabsor lack of themi don't know i got confused
>>33675952Talent first approach
>>33675933It was a recent thing iirc and they are enforcing it hard now due to the recent controversy
>>33675223Lol
Sorry holoen, i am addicted to drama...
>>33675917No she isn’t But the truth remain that Cover scout have failed to create a new star. First Army are full of people from the first 3-4 gen of Hololive
>>33675900I kneel to lamy, she found her footing and went from mid tier to upper high tier
>>33675241nah you don't understand! they hired 2 1 million sub indies who are both doing well! incredible recuitment!
>>33675853My favorite Among Us streams were done by a group of Fromsoft centric youtubers / twitch streamers. It really comes down to the group dynamic and having the POV be someone who is tryharding.
>>33675917>If Pekora is their only advantageI mean if that were the case salome would have crushed hololive 25-5 back when she debuted and pekora was out.
>>33675718t. Delusional Teakek
>>33676052I mean, look at risotto
>>33676051numbers? stop spreading lies holokek
>>33675917They're now in the holobox, if anything happens they'll just switch to someone else.
>>33676090She almost did, but she choked really hard
another farm made, for nobody to use.
>>33676039Thats more like the jp streamer scene drying up. You can see it on nijisanji side as well.
>>33676090If Anykar can create Salome out of nothing, you think they can't do it again?On the other hand, most of Cover's recent gens are not doing too well, just look at HoloX, Tempus and ID3
Salome is currently bigger than Pekora.
>>33676140Fancy way of saying she didn't and has been reclining hard since while Hololive has been thriving.
>>33675900holox expanded the holobox gen5 benefited from it
Okay wait, has CCV table anon posted yet? We're 20 days into September, he usually updates after every week or 10 day period right?
can we talk about nijiJP number now? big numbers makes my head spin.
>>33676157At this point it's for EN3
>>33676157When will she get isekaid onto the server? Numbers?
>>33676090
>>33676159it is saturated as fuck because the ceiling is actually pretty low but there's still space for something like salami to happen
>>33675917The advantage is the holobox which can make someone like roboco go from 2k to 10k median with a snap of a finger.
Ah, the holokek spammer is back. I was wondering why the thread got really shitty.I guess this is what happens when all of NijiEN is shitting the bed, just go back to Holo vs Holo.
>33676186No (you)s for you unless you bring better bait
>>33675718Gura: 10/10 hire, best numbers in all of ENMori: Stupid but her songs have good numbers, severely reclining thoughKiara: slightly inclining lately, not a bad hire, could be betterIna: Nothing wrong with her, good numbers, good hireAme: Reclining hard, people aren't getting blown away with her gimmicks anymore, decentMumei: Good numbers, good hireFauna: Good numbers, good hireKronii: We'll see in the future how her stance affects her numbers, I doubt it'll look pretty thoughSana: The shame of ENBae: KekIRyS: Mismanaged to all hell but her bad numbers isn't her faultSo basically 4 good hires, 4 meh hires, 2 terrible hires. Not that bad honestly
>>33675900there are other metrics to succeed in.
Mizkif for homostars? Imagine the numbers.
I can't believe there are people in here seriously suggesting HoloEN should embrace more of the standard twitch streaming metaThe shit that does big numbers on twitch is trash. If the only way for chuubas to grow in the west is for them to get closer to shit like this then they're probably better off at their current level.https://clips.twitch.tv/PlainSuaveWitchGrammarKing-hBrR5WC_kOlokV_d
>>33676182>If Anykar can create Salome out of nothing, you think they can't do it again?Yes because theyve been trying to create Kuzuha 2.0 but have failed to replicate him.
>>33676192It's not her fault that Anycolor didn't train anyone how to do the Heimlich maneuver
>>33676259I am convinced there's some fuckery going on with the music numbers, and I will not take my meds.
>>33676223>salamiah the gag vtuber that everyone tuned in because they though she was a gag and then tuned out when she reached 1m and nothing happened?
>>33676274The only ones seriously suggesting it are a few twitch blokes, everyone else called it the trash it is.
>>33676259Mate you’re missing one there should be 11
>>33675718Why are irystocrats like this
>>33676264i mean, if you want one, koyori mogs the fuck out of both of them in monthly views, something like 11M vs 5M for lamy and 4M for botan, but that's pretty much it
>>33676325Too many songs and covers being uploaded leading to people not doing their music reps as much since they're spoiled for choice.
>>33676259>Ina: Nothing wrong with her,really now?
>>33675920gen 5 failed id2 failed and council failed
Is Aia actually gonna make it to 1k?
>>33676182Yeah they can’t They got lucky with her, there was no plan, she was meant to be a jokeAnd now she is below King, basically non threatening
>>33676090Hololive didn't lose in her second month just because Pekora came back at full force.
>>33676392>>33676393He set that up for the >Oh I forgot she existed
>>33676259I think the general consensus is gura, ina, fauna, mumei are fine. The rest are meh or bad
>>33676476OJOU AISHITE
>>33675985Wichever supports your worldview, anon.
>>33676392IRyS is the best vtuber and her bad numbers aren't her fault. She will pass Gura after the redesign.
>>33676476ojou is ruthless
>>33675718I kinda want to do one of these for NijiEN but I don't watch enough of them to know about all the shitters
>>33676400I mean considering the hours Pink Lamy put in if she doesn't beat them it's unironically over for her.
>>33676325it's because of the amount, there's like 8 new covers/originals every week, it's actually a meritocracy nowunless you're suisei, then it's a relatively fast 1M on anything
>>33676475>no tempus in his listfuck off homokek
This thread is pretty disgusting. It's the amalgamation of everything that's wrong with /vt/ as a whole.
>>33676385Can't blame them. EN numbers are pretty depressing nowadays. They are desperate for a solution
>>33676157There's something that hurts in this image...
>>33676587the fact that I'm not by her side
>>33676182theyve been trying to replicate king for a while now and still havent done so
>>33676476>>33676508>>33676543Goodbye Sengen got 20M a few ago I guess, I don't know if somebody talked about it
>>33676501Pekora had to come back early since she saw Salome was mogging Hololive. This is causing irrepairable damages to her voice.This might seriously shorten her vtuber career.
>>33676504He included iRys in his evaluations I’m taking about >4 good, 4 meh, 2 bad It doesn’t add up to 11
>>33676576There are no males here tho
>>33676568tempus is doing pretty well for themselves considering they are part of holostars
>>33676393I meant 4 good hires, 5 meh hires, and 2 shit hires as of the moment which is not terrible. Ideally you would want all to be good hires but that just isn't realistic.
>>33676504You got me there anon, i'm sad now
>>33676475>Hololive 2020>gen 5 failed, myth expanded holobox>Hololive 2021>hope&council failed, holox expanded holobox>Hololive 2022>holoEN dying (nijification by tempus), holoID gen 3 expanded holobox
>>33675560It'll be shit for CCV but it'll be good for the total views metric that one autist likes to spam.
>>33676587Her shadow looks like a penis
>>33676662so your saying every gen divisible by 3 expands the holobox?
>>33676683She truly is Chumbud prime
>>33676157Pekora clique welcome people who like Minecraft and streamingStill open for audition btw
>>33676587its a redraw of this shot from Overlord. Guy maintained his guildhall everyday for his friends in a game for ages despite all of them quitting or playing very infrequently.
EN3 is the magic number for Hololive.JP3 and ID3 are the biggest gens of their respective branches.EN3 will not disappoint.
so which is gonna glop harder?reines classroom or kornmei collab?
Anons, which gun is the best for long-range shooting?
/#/ is declining
>>33676488If she were to publicly turn away from her sjw ways, do gfe pandering and reduce collabing with males she could be salvagedbut those are things that will never happen
>>33676629Before coming here I've never felt anything negative towards any group of people. But these days it's so clear that a lot of the baiting and shitposting is done by SEA posters that I feel like range banning them from this board would be for the best.
>>33676736Hey man
>>33676576i want to have sex with that cutie
G-guys Irys hit 5k...
>>33676457>>33676548I'm pretty certain othen than a few passion projects , a good numbers of the songs Hololive's done the last few months were just for tax deduction purposes.
>>33676576why are nijikeks like this?
>>33676732both will get shit numbers
>>33676741Isn't she already crypto-GFE?
>>33676576This particular thread has been pretty damn nice, actually.
>>33676733Anzio 20mm rifle
>>33676831more like saviorfag bait
Anycolor is incliningにじさんじ 同接中央値 1万以上の人数2018年 6月 22018年 7月 22018年 8月 12018年 9月 12018年 10月 12018年 11月 22018年 12月 22019年 1月 12019年 2月 12019年 3月 12019年 4月 22019年 5月 22019年 6月 12019年 7月 22019年 8月 32019年 9月 42019年 10月 42019年 11月 72019年 12月 62020年 1月 52020年 2月 52020年 3月 62020年 4月 62020年 5月 72020年 6月 42020年 7月 62020年 8月 132020年 9月 132020年 10月 102020年 11月 122020年 12月 62021年 1月 62021年 2月 72021年 3月 52021年 4月 52021年 5月 42021年 6月 62021年 7月 112021年 8月 82021年 9月 82021年 10月 42021年 11月 72021年 12月 52022年 1月 72022年 2月 6 (+5 EN)2022年 3月 7 (+2 EN)2022年 4月 8 2022年 5月 9 (+1 EN)2022年 6月 7 (+2 EN)2022年 7月 8 (+1 EN)2022年 8月 10 (+1 EN)
>>33676721>EN3 will not disappoint.this will either age like fine wine or like milk i dont know
Ludwig is able to earn at least $200k doing just one sponsorship on his sub channel shilling a mobile game I suppose it's safe to say that SC income is heavily dwarfed by sponsorships/merch sales.https://youtu.be/NiDcgMg70JM?t=274
>>33676847This thread is pretty much Vtuber manager simulator now - which yeah is actually one of the best recently, actually analyzing numbers somewhat too
>>33676904Both, somehow
>>33676910No shit
>>33676741Has she actually done anything sjw related other than the debut shit? I watched like one of her streams early on and she never mentioned anything related, and I don't recall seeing any other instances.
>>33676910No shit, someone pull up the asmongold chart.
>>33676899They will have 6 people in September
>>33676325Considering i saw an wasy 10k get wiped off SUA earlier and DO U hit 400k twice yeah no shit.
>>33675718>>33676259>Gura: 1 one vtuber in the world and a good streamer>Mori: Insanely talented music artist has a record deal>Kiara : The most idol like in en and brings the group together.> Ina: Excellent streamer and comfy artist> Ame: A creative genius is behind holo en 3D and pushes the group forward with her inventions>Irys : A excellent personality and number one singer in holo en> Mumei : Excellent artist and has a unique sense of humor> Kronii : pro voice actor and has a nice voice > Sana : Never got to fulfill her true potential but passionate about art and had a cult like following> Fauna : An excellent asmr artist and gamer of en> Bae : A great voice actor and serves as the bridge that connects en to holostars and Korea. An great zoomer that brings unique content to en.Hololive en are probally the strongest 11 members of hololive branch.
>>33676899you can literally see the pattern of them reclining after summer here
>>33676808Yeah, right before she Z'd.
>>33676808It was a Z
>>33676548Suisei has not uploaded any song on her channel in months.
>>33676904EN3 probably will get one or two new talents going viral while the rests are shitter.It's almost impossible to get full superstar gen
>>33676904Both Sankisei and ID3 managed to get numbers through unconventional waysOdd that EN3 will do the same, that is to say, chipping in the Twitch audience
>>33676325I'm seeing way more 1 view videos of random shit like weight lifting, tekken combos, and random 0 view chuubas on my recommended lately, you think that has anything to do with the algorithm?
>>33676910Didn't they pay Vox like 40k for a 1.5 hour genshin stream? Easy to see how that can stack up.
>>33676963It was probably her attempt at resume padding her debut. The other topics she listed made her sound like an /x/-lite crackpot.
>>33676910Yes sponsorships and merch are always the major bread winnersIt kinda depends on your content and audience though. Like we know how much Vox and Mysta got sponser to play Genshin and it was pretty mediocre. Ludwig is quite frankly one of the most ideal personalities for a sponsorship. He's very professional and uncontroversial. xQc for example can barely get any sponsorships outside of G fuel and crypto gambling because his brand is so shit
>>33676964
>>33676942No wonder even Nijisanji managers often come here to learn how to increase their brand image.Hololive managers are too prideful to trust this place.
Poor bastard
>>33676942>Vtuber manager simulator>constant baiting, flaming, ridiculing vtubers from other company and tribalismNot every manager is Paul Li, sis
>>33676721EN doesn't follow that rule.
>>33675746>>33675878surely not just Western viewers, though.
>>33677071I thought it was like 12k but I don't have that image so maybe I'm misremembering
>>33677066They deliberately do something in the algorithm to promote literal 2 views, part of their discovering small streamers initiative. It shouldn't break anything else but you know how it is with youtube coding
Reminder that Gura had an under 10k stream this month, no matter how long it wad.
>>33677082They come here around Luxiem boom and Salome peak but not anymore
>>33677081ah would explain why nijien girls need to rely on superchats so much.
>>33677114But vtubers are not humans, so we can easily talks shit about them.
>>33677165(You)Try harder.
>>33677066yeah i keep getting vods for not even just 2view vtubers or 2view streamers. like 3 day old vods from random facecam streamers with under 40 views and shit. Youtube tryna push something.
>>33676904not that council are shitters or anything but i would rather a gen with 1 or 2 superstars and 3 shitters then something like council where everyone is just average to slightly above average
>>33677081This is twitch right? So swap subs with members in this case?
>>33677214yes
>>33677165If it wasn't a gaming stream, it doesn't matter or count unironically
>>33677134Maybe I misconverted I don't know chink currency. Even then it's a pretty nice paycheck.
>>33677088hop he has another daughter in jp7
>>33677214Yes. Although on twitch the sub number will be inflated because of twitch prime so you need to factor that in.Even Miko who barely streams on twitch has like 300 subs because of prime
>>33676768Coming to /vt/ was a mistake anon
>>336772092 super/3 shitters is perfect in hololive. They would give them time and resources to get better
>>33677290It wouldn't be the same.
>>33677078The hololive brand is so sponsorship friendly it's not even funny, people are still underestimating it in the western market.I suppose we'll see what happens after this Among Us collab.
>>33676910for nijiEN merch/SC > sponsorship
>>33677338Myth for example is 1 superstar and 4 shitters. Gura pulled up the numbers of the other 4 for 2 whole years.
>>33677165The entire EN market is declining. People in the west are getting tired of vtubers and moving on.
>>33677209>gen with 1 or 2 superstars and 3 shitterisnt that every holo gen?
>>33677236It was a technical restart, the 40s Holocure stream.
>>33677088Please COVER give the man another chance. It not his fault
>>33673549/news/ roundup for 20-09-2022 >>33640013Recent clip numbers>>33625657>>33625683>>33626003>>33626035
>>33677435If they won't give pako another chance then why bother.
>>33677372Why? Aren't sponsorships big money makers? How can superchat beat that?
>>33677389I think you have memory problems. Mori used to rival Gura as the most popular with her music and Ina is super stable
>>33677209super stars are needed. if Myth didnt have Gura I doubt Myth would have gotten as much traction as it did, it wouldve been big no doubt due to hype and timing at the time but having a superstar that people put eyes on drips downwards no doubt.
>>33677372Damn that Nijien is carrying the nijisanji branch wasnt joking.Not surprising since ive seen that kind of talk increase recently in places outside /here/
>>33677372Damn, merch really dominates it huh. I didn't expect that much of a difference considering how generic the merch seems, but I'm biased.
IRyS 5K. We're closer to her usual timeslot.
>salome exploded>Anykara starts to gather sponsorship instead of cultivate core fanbase for her>Pekora back from vacation>Algo pushed Holoclips on Salome tourists>all the tourists converted>Pekora incline phase two get>while Salome reclined>sponsored deal scammed
>>33677489Did you forget the stolen chink money?
>>33677402If you scale down the numbers that model seems to be how every vtuber company's gens works.
>>33673549September eventsHololive16) Subaru anniversary, Moona 3D debut17) Iofi 3D debut18) Risu 3D debut, Gura 3D live20) HoloID mini 3D liveNijisanji16) Kuzuhacup17) Kuzuhacup18) CRcup (Kuzuha)28) Kuzuhaday30) Nijifes fantasia
>>33677489They barely get any sponsorships and the ones that they do get don't pay a lot
>>33677541So you're saying Pekora is anti-capitalist?
>>33677389It's dwarfed because Gura is an anomaly, but I really think early Mori was superstar level numbers too, at least for song views. Completely squandered now though.
>>33677489Anon, Luxiem barely get any sponsors, and before them LOE were basically shitters in terms of numbers and the sponsors they could get wouldn't pay a ton.
>>33677511They are not shut up, they look bigger than JP because they have 26 fuckers while JP has 160+
>>33677510If myth had no gura all of them probably would be sub 5k shitters rn
>>33677511its by per streamer on the second part. NijiEN no doubt has many streamers doing much better than most of NijiJP but NijiJP has so many absolute shitters at the rock bottom compared to NijiEN that the per streamer metric is of course going to be skewed towards a branch with a handful superstars at a fraction the size of the branch with a handful of superstars that have 100 shitters under them.
>>33677489That graph is more of a detriment to Niji's ability to get good sponsorships than anything else.
>>33677561except for nijien for some reason. some anon pointed out how every wave can only have 1 and that when 1 inclines the other 2 also recline.
>>33677489Would you sponsor Vox, after looking at his ASMR content?
EN3 will have their own version of Mr.Beast
>>33677209Daily reminder that Flare still doesn't have 1M subs and will be beat to it by fucking Nene who's already a megashitter only good for shilling noodles. Let's not even get into Choco or Luna.
>>33677511There is a bit of deception in that it's "Average per talent" and NijiJP has a LOT of shitters. With the addition of iLuna and the recline of luxiem, expect the number for NijiEN to go DOWN because oh boy, they aren't doing so hot.
>>33677668nigger debuff
>>33677668at this sub growth mumei and kronii will probably beat flare to 1 million as well lmfao
>>33677489>Aren't sponsorships big money makers?not all
>>33677528inclining
>>33677608hey im only saying what some people outside /here/ are saying
>>33677066>tekken combosTekken 8 will still be 3
>>33677528Pathetic showing from irys this past year
>>33677700nice try dwarf
>>33677372Are Vox and Luxiem still big? I thought the fad was over already, it can't last that much longer...
>>33677719Some people outside of /here/ still think Rushia was terminated because she had a boyfriend.
>>33677590Well I mean I call her the number beacon for a reason, she bring number to people around her, one way or anotherLike a Minecraft beacon
>>33677592One look at that "Top 200 Hololive songs" will have anyone rethink that Mori wasn't a superstar. She has a ridiculous number of songs on that list, let alone the number 2 song in all of hololive
>>33677489They probably want to sponsor Luxiem but after checking their background>Mysta MLP>Vox rape ASMR>Sex jokes #69bailed out
Mumei and Kronii vs Gura and Reinewho wins?
>>33677088>>33677290 >>33677435I wonder if he's close to her as much as Guchico to triangle (He designed both her avatars btw, which is ultra based)
>>33677732all im saying is we have 2 brown holos, both are the runts of their generations and it wasnt even close and no dont give me Sana didnt stream shit, she debut'd the weakest, and had the weakest subgrowth and subscriber start of all her genmates even before her horrific streaming ethic had time to take place.
>>33677590Hololive as a whole is anti-capitalist
>>33677590She's a monarchist anon.
>>33677489sponsors unironically care about mindshares and if you only have little then youre not gonna be that appetizing to sponsors.
>>33677762Proof?
>>33677813Gura. The Collab partner doesn't matter
EN noombers.
>>33677389Ina is a respectable streamer and Mori was a super star herself once upon a time, though as others have said she completely blew it because she's a retard.
>>33677590>>33677828You need to be above 18 to post here.
>>33677813Channels of each collab?
>>33677066I always have one block of my front page dedicated to litteral 3 views VODs.
>>33677590Pekora is libertarian
>>33677813gooba
>>33677813Is there any collab combo that wouldn't lose going 1v1 against Gura? No JPs, that's cheating.
>>33677813I'm betting on GuraI HOPE Kronii can beat 10k cause otherwise....
>>33677870FAUNA FAUNA FAUNA FAUNA FAUNA FAUNA
>>33677590pekora is a fucking conspiracy theorist
>>33677435It is not Rushia's fault either.
Are we counting the Ame Bait on the tally?
>>33677870COME ON AIA LETS GO GET THAT 1K
>>33677870p a t h e t i c.I say this as someone with IRyS, Gura and Ina memberships. These numbers just make me sad.
>>33677948Was it a stream?
Who's the strongest council member? Fauna?
>>33677948We counted Rosemi's stream announcing the new outfits which was barely 5 mins longer or so
>>33677843NTA but after Nazuna debut i had a friend ask if she was Rushia because he read it somewhere and then he brought up that he thought it was stupid Hololive would fire her over her personal life.
>>33677931she thinks the one piece is a metaphor for the Olympic games
>>33677875Kronii/Reine
>>33677813If Gura can boost Reine to 15k on a glorified zatsudan, i dont see how Mumei can carry Kronii in the same way unless it's shipfaggotry.
>>33677948Yes
>>33677870I love Fauna and I'm happy more people have started watching her over the last few months.
IRyS is not going to pass the Z peak is she...
>>33678029Mumei doesn't have the carrying ability that Gura has.
>>33677813https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znplqdbZZZwThis one
>>33678060blame green whore for not ending sooner instead choosing to farm more shitty green crystals nobody will use
So can you schizo numberfag let Pekora play DQ in peace now?
>>33677990Currently yeah. She has the best numbers this month so far and has a pretty strong floor. Mumei maybe could be bigger but her stream schedule is too sporadic right now
So was the Ame shitpost a premiere or is it cripple gold?Shit when is the last time Niji took cripple gold
>>33677870Man council was a disappointment and everyone below them should be fired for being worse than disappointments.
>>33677209>superstars Everyone will be praising about it's success and how it brings new hypes and growths, all thanks to that superstar until said superstar either got complacent about her success or ends up getting imposter syndrome which in turns lead to less stream or more debuff stream that slowly kills her momentum
>>33678060She has like 8 minutes before ID weaken Gura and Kromei starts
>>33678080Tempus needs to stop collabing with girls
>>33678086she can play dq all she wants, she has over a fucking month of golds this years, she earned everything
>>33678083I would blame IRyStocrats for not watching IRyS actually
>>33678005And people think that rrats here are bad, normalfags eat everything without even checking the source.
>>33678083Blame irys for having shit numbers
>>33678090Stream and EN gold
>>33678055She's probably the most consistent streamer now, mostly picked good games to stream too
>>33677990fauna because she has ina esque floors. Mumei has more potential but she has school
>>33677990Mumei can reach better peaks and don't underestimate Bae's ability to bring in tourists, but if we're talking day-to-day then yeah, Fauna is the strongest in council and 3rd overall for HoloEN.
>>33678029huh? "review" streams, especially something meme like feet, are way strongerReine/Gura might not even get 10k because of the debuff channel and debuff topic (lmao, learn indonesian at some god forsaken hour for indos).
>>3367809016 days ago i think?Mercy rule already took effect already took place
>>33677825Her two new designs are not from him so maybe not.
>>33678023Oh Ill give it to Gura but I feel it will be close.
>>33678173Fauna is like 70% of an Ina only
>>33677990They all get the same amount of viewers. There's the illusion of Fauna being bigger than the rest because she keeps spamming Minecrap.
>176 hours
>>33678148They're watching her right now, all 5000 of them. And 5000 is generous since a good 1.5k of that is probably from Fauna.
>>33678215>KaelaBased autistic hag
>>33678215sugoi
>>33678215Based Kaela
>>33678142She pulled back to back 3D live concert numbers with a 7 seven year old mobage out of motherfucking nowhere, she can do whatever the fuck she wants yes
>>33678086No. Unless if she gets a 30k hard floor. Grab more tourists Pekora.
>>33677990depends on what you mean by strongest and what you valuemerch sales? mumeiccv ceiling? mumeiccv floor? fauna
>>33678215>she has more hours than all the EN girls on that list COMBINED
>>33678215I love Kaela.
>>33678182I believe in the chumbuds. Her idol shift has gotten her some really dedicated viewers
>>33678215huh, kiara's 3rd in hours
>>33678215>Subaru above MikoThe Persona series did wonder for her
Tsm and g2 not making valorant franchising. Actual brands hate drama and people who are controversial.
>>33678215Based Kaela showing how lazy JP and EN are due to their reliance of the hololive brand.
>>33678300Did you fail math or something?
>>33678215>Kaela streaming longer than KoyoriWTF
>>33678215>EN's Ayame just above AyameTHEY ARE
>>33677668Noodle debuff
>>33678300wait no i skipped over Kiara because I started at Gura dont mind me>>33678349
>>33678210cope
>>33677898i mean gura almost slipped 1v1 to mumei yesterday. The only reason mumei didn't get cripple gold was because she had to end early
>>33678182Reine/Gura is actually a good combo, but yes this is a bad time and not a particularly number heavy stream content. I'd still be tuning in though, they're fun together
>>33678356Koyori has Cover work to do. She can't steam like she used to
>>33677668Blonde debuff.
>>33678215To put it into perspective, that's roughly 6 hours a day
>>33678215Kaela deserves everything nice that happens to her.
>>33678424also the part where koyori has another job, but that's rm shit
>>33678407Gura has good chemistry with a lot of ID members
>>33678454so same with kaela then
>>33678086No. She still have Rust reps to do. She should challange Subaru on the weekend slot with DQMJ to take back that slot.
>>33677489>How can superchat beat that?Like this>Hello Mr Akuma, western streamer, please shill our games to your western fanbase.>he streams>2k viewers, probably still mostly chinks>sponsors look at analytics>no need to apply for the next sponsorship mr Akuma, we will...request you when needed
Imagine if Vox, Salome and Kuzuha collabed. It would destroy the holofags in this thread kek
>>33678083>Faunaschizo is actually watching her stream contributing to her view countHuh?
>>33678437In contrast, look at those streaming for less than 20 hours - that's less than an hour a day
>>33676400oh, that's just a function of how much she streams. I meant more Laplus and Chloe, through media presence and the like.
>>33678215>Pink Lamy and Kaela with three digit streaming hoursJesas ...Btw>Gura: 22kTotally not 1st army material btw
>>33678483Kaela doesn't have a lot of Cover work.
>>33678512>Average ccv
>>33678491*shits on your collab by playing another fgo stream*
>>33678475Have we actually had Gura/Kobo interact before? Feels like they will generate quite a bit of numbers there
>>33677389Heh. Mori has only recently reclined in song views, but she's always been a fucking freak of numbers, just not CCV. Newfags won't remember this, but Ame used to get solid as fuck CCV numbers. Before she started 20 layers of filters and dropped the massively popular Gurame streams
>>33678491It would destroy them with laughter
>>33678475she has good chemistry with everyone thats not in myth, its fucking hilarious
>>33678512>miko 21k
>>33678536she's doing voice and dancing reps last i heard. might be in preparation for holofes
>>33678475with all except one
>>33678502dont try to understand the mind of an anti, in global i remember kiara antis would shit up the thread about stuff she was saying in MEMBERS STREAMS
>>33678577Kobo called to Gura's birthday stream, but she was in a rush
Will Reine keep her shit together this time? Last time she collabed with Gura she sounded nervous as fuck, like the shark's primary food is indonesians and she forgot the tracker at home so her PMC doesn't know where she is.
>>33678569Nah that’s lame, knowing her she will pull some random unexpected move to mog them
>>33678502faunaschizo is a sapling psyop
>>33678491kuzuha won't touch than manwhore with a 10 ft pole
stream including mumei start on time challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
>>33678624Gurame was fantastic back in the day, but yeah something happened there
>>33678597>Newfags won't remember this, but Ame used to get solid as fuck CCV numbers. Before she started 20 layers of filters and dropped the massively popular Gurame streamsShe, Mori, and Gura were top 3 of EN at one point if memory serves. Then she decided to become Debuffson.
1to1 Goombah-Peko when?
>>33678491Ah yes. The potential of Vox making another faux pas to King because he can't be bothered to research shit is gonna get the dramafags salivating.
>>33678407they’re not a good combo though
>>33678715Kuzuha thinks Vox is cool, threadwatcher.
>>33678684She should be more comfortable. By the end of the feet Collab reine was more relaxed
>>33678624Just take a fucking look at the myth anniversary lmao. She'd rather do some cute shit and fuck with chat rather than talk to myth. Was kinda funny.
>>33678512>Totally not 1st army material btwUnironically the only reason Gura isn't "first army" is because in 2022 some JPs inclined to be above her. Like, she's been basically hovering at the same numbers for 2 years with buff and debuff periods. But the japs came up with the first army stuff when Aqua was burning hot and Suzie/Subaru inclined. Used to be Gura was consistently top 5 even in CCV monthly charts.
niji family?
>>33678624I still actually like her with Mori but yeah she doesn't get on with Myth the way she gets on with Mumei, Fauna, Kronii, or even Kaela.
>>33678740Ame stopped leeching off gura and thus her numbers naturally declined
>>33678491Vox fans would be confused as to who the other 2 are.
>>33678808sure sister. get me some proof without a passing mention.
>>33678740i remember Amelia almost overtook Mori in subs. Then the rolling music buff and the TT collab tourist subs rolled in and sealed that away.
>>33678113It's ok Magni is extremely gay.
>>33678836>Taking that image from the bait threadBoring, take this image from the same thread instead
Holo en members beat most of jp members when compared here a battle breakdown on how en is in fact the stongest hololive branch>Gura vs pekoGura wins 9/10 times while peko can get high ccv due to timezone. But gura beats her in vod views and singing skill. So the victory is gura.>Mori vs suiseiMori beats Suisei when comes to Spotify views and song output. Suisei beats mori when it comes to streaming and jp merch sales. But Suisei most popular song has 22 million vs mori most popular song has 33 million. So if it's peak mori vs Suisei mori will win 6/10 but nerf mori after yabe I give it to Suisei.>Ame vs MarineMarine is powerhouse and has excellent ccv but her achievements are all one the jp field and has not breach the world boundary's. Marine is one of the queen of japan but that it. Compared to Ame achievements Marine comes up short Ame could put on a entire 3D concert by herself with little help. Ame has created what is know as the leg method that popularity is way beyond just way country but impacted the world of vtubers as a whole. Ame constantly comes up with new creative ways to put on entraining streams vs Marine who has thoart debuff. So the victory is ame who wins 5/10 times due to Marine while having high peaks never brought much to international vtuber field like Amelia did.>Ina vs mikoThis is a matchup that can go either way but I got to give it to ina due to the fact ina is one of hololive best seller. Ina no matter get high level of viewership and this is not counting her art skills vs miko who is fun but that all she got going to for her.>Kiara vs AquaThis is a close matchup both are idols and know what it means but I give it to aqua 8/10 times due to Kiara not having proper resources.>Irys vs KanataI give this to irys while kanata is a excellent singer her jokes fall into repative comapred to irys. Who has one best singer voice in hololive and being fun to watch. > Fauna vs LammyBoth have a similar vibe but due lammy lack of gaming skills I give the virctory to Fauna but in terms of asmr skills Lammy has the slight edge but not enough for a victory.>Kronii vs TowaTowa wins she has one of the biggest collab network in vtuber history and can collab with everyone. While kronii has a nice voice that comes up short to the skilled towa.>Mumei vs CholeBoth cute but I give it to Mumei she has a better singing voice and cuteness,Bae vs FubukiFubuki wins due to being a unity chad yet still being a firend for all.
>>33678808Yeah, the>Kariope-san kakkoiiOf Nijisanji
sub 10k stream from reine gura huh...
>>33678844Gura hates mumei though, couldn't even bother to call in to her birthday.
Yo where are the 70k people who liked Kroniis tweet? Why aren't they watching the stream?
>>33678740Ame was literally the CCV nr 2. Mori could not compete with her because of the retarded JP timeslot she used, even in 2020.Hilarious 2020 Ame numbers look like 2022 Gura numbers: 14-17k on debuff shit, 20k+ on buffs.
>>33678624Bone Bros and Gurame were her strongest chemistry in Myth. The former hasn't happened in 8 months and probably won't happen for a while because Mori is too busy doing everything in her power to interact with Tempus. The latter got killed because of Ame's big ego and only ever happens during sponsorships anymore.
>>33678834>SubaruI'm still trying to decipher this one even now. I love the normie duck but she just exploded.
Do not respond to that garbage bait wall
I read all of that text
How come none of the ENs have done a "teaching english to holoID" stream?
>>33679006She is the "that was literally me" vtuber.
>>33678923>committing suicide>instead of just finding a 2view to groomHoly fuck what a weak man.
>>33678937>>Gura vs peko>Gura wins 9/10 times while peko can get high ccv due to timezone. But gura beats her in vod views and singing skill. So the victory is gura.Not readin the rest, I will just laugh at this for a couple of minutes.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>33678086She needs to conquer the FGO tourists first.
>>33678937Trying too hard with your bait.
>>33678969>Twitter likesLmao useless metrics.
>>336789376/10needs to be more subtle
>>33678937cool fanfiction bro. I'm totally gonna read that text.
>>33679079I don't think Kobo can do 10 EN learning streams
>>33678984this was pre ccvid, pre myth decline and when gura was still interacting frequently with ame
>>33679006She got gold-tier number doing Tales of the Abyss and Persona 4 Golden too, not exactly buff content
>>33678937I stopped reading after the third paragraph, it made laugh tho so good job I guess
>>33678984I remember how hard everyone kneeled in those days. What a wonderful time.
>>33678491The different branches of Niji do not give a shit about each other.Like, a Kobo/Gura/Pekora collab would do massive numbers because holofags loooove their inter branch interactions.
>>33678923>>33679089>r/okbhAnon, please tell me you don't trust that ...
>>33678867https://youtu.be/3X3jHXUywgwAnd never ask me to spoonfeed you ever again, you fucking retard.
>>33678937imagine putting this much effort into shitposting
reminder that individual vod comparisons is just cope for lazy bitches, monthly totals is where the money is
>>33679006shes basically doing react content which brings in good numbers.
>>33678984Moving into that horrid termite-infested place was the worst thing to happen to Ame.
>>33679150All those likes from people who are big fans and support her, combined with Mumei in a collab? I'm expecting about 80k to turn up for this one.
IRyS lost 10% of her viewers...
Need Mumei's pov
>>33678937>Even in the baitpost he can't find anything nice to say about Kiara
>>33679306you want both of them to have 2k ccv?
>>33678937>en "is" in fact the strongest hololive branchYou mean was, this is not 2020 anymore. Also why would anyone spend this much time writing this cringeass fanfic?
>>3367928980k people WILL show up throughout her stream though, just look at the views after
>>33679177Subaru built her audience by being a consistently entertaining react streamer.especially the side branches
>>33678848Another threadwatcher Lmaoo, Vox isn't even in that pic retard.
Isn't this a weird ass timeslot to put a "learning indonesian" stream at?
>hololive production x Among Us Collaboration Starts on Sept 20th, 2022COVER Corporation (Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo; CEO: Tanigo Motoaki) has announced that a collaboration between hololive production and the online game “Among Us” starts on Sept 20th, 2022.Limited-time collaboration cosmetics featuring hololive production talents are now available in the game.To acquire these cosmetics, you have to purchase “Collaboration Cosmicubes” in-game and unlock the cubes by playing the game. The “Collaboration Cosmicubes” will be available from the in-game store for three months from the start of the collaboration.We hope you enjoy the hololive x Among Us collaboration!In addition, hololive production x Among Us collaboration merch will be released to celebrate this collaboration. Details for the collaboration merch will be available soon, so please stay tuned for further information!Release Date10 AM (PDT), Sept 20th, 20222 AM (JST), Sept 21st, 2022
NUMBERS
How does /#/ do it? Even with all it's flaws it still manages to maintain a level of quality far above the other threads of this board.
>>33679274The GOOD kind of react content, where she actually plays the game and gets immersed in it, unlike the lazy shit Twitch does nowadays.
>>33679298She always bleeds alot, nothing new
>>33677511>Not surprising since ive seen that kind of talk increase recently in places outside /here/I've said it before, the entire nijien fanbases is here or so close to here that it doesn't matter, so the "shitposts" that nijiniggers post here are representative of what the fanbase actually thinks
>>33679344Because (YOU) gave the faggot a (you), and he's terminally addicted to all the (you)s everyone keeps feeding him.
>>33679233You clearly don't know anything about Nijisanji at all. Jesus, this thread is pathetic.
>>33679298IRyS is really boring and incompetent its understandable.
>>33679298Chupada 10 porciento
>>33679245>official programobviously management fed him those lines you tranny. Now wash that axe wound before the pus comes out again.
>>33679400>Rengrim
>>33679391It's 10 am in Indonesia. This is the time that worked for both of them
>>33679298One of my favourite pastimes is looking and mumei and irys graphs during huge overlaps
>>33678923Based, this man went nuclear against the very fanbase that hates Hololive origins.
>>33678096Shut up flopgur
>>33679408When there's streams or music numbers or charts there's generally interesting discussion. Otherwise this place is hell
>>33679408As long as the streams are boring/low numbers. The quality of discussion SLIGHTLY increases.
>>33679400Petra of the 43k outfit
>>33679391Gura's not waking up before noon EST anon
>>33679408most unfiltered place where everyone and anyone can call out each other on their bullshit without the company tribalism?
>>33679245ah so it is anonther >Kariope-san kakkoii
>>33679408It's a low fucking bar.>>33677511Because newfags think that Luxiem = all Nijisanji.
>>33679408We are under two more levels of autism
>>33679171Moona can share that burden
>>33678937writing general is in the other corner but thanks for sharing
>>33678937Made me chuckle, good job.
>>33679400both collabs from holoEN are stalling around 5k.Grim.
luna and runa at the top of the slot
Just out of curiosity, what other boards do you guys visit? It can't be /#/ all day right?Right?
waiting for kronii or mumei to mention homos for shitposting
>>33679477Kek, look sister I'm sure you don't get negative reception for your inter branch collabs.But holofags literally freak the fuck out with hype when new holos interact, on all the fanbases.
>>33679654Runa will have her best median ever just spamming Splatoon. nice autism
>>33679400GO MAGNI GO
So we all agree that irys is the runt of holoen
>>33679734is Mumei confirmed homoparty yet or is she still distancing from EN homos
>>33679726I numberfag on /a/ and /v/ too lmao
>>33679726I only visit /who/ and /#/.
>>33679726/co/ /k/ /ck/ /aco/ and other drawthreads if im bored and want to do draw requests
>>33679726I've been browsing the /feg/ thread in /vg/ lately.
>>33679726i go to vg to visit /mhg/ or /o7rsg/ occasionally. Ill also hit up /a/ for like the 3 series i keep tabs on still
>>33679400Did a Collab with Uproar beat 4 Nijien members? Shit ton of Holoen members are streaming, how?
If the homo passes IRyS transfer her to ID
>>33679782Mumei's current stance is unknown
>>33679782no one knows, doubt the autist owl knows either
>>33679726I visit /x/ when I'm bored or I go shit up bait threads.
>>33679726I'm a resident on /ggg/ since /hlgg/ sucks nowadays. I also like going on /fit/ and /v/
>>33679595Moona needs some of those ID leasons
>>33679726Just my oshi's split.
>>33679782Same boat as Fauna currently
>>33675224there are a few gems.
>>33679932at what point did you realize hlgg was lost
>>33679854Magni and Rio is an anticipated collab
>>33679400>starsjp stream mogging luxiem stream>collab between stars is mogging nijien streamsI honestly confused as to what is happening. Did shoto really damage them that much?
>>33679782She the only neutral simply because no one knows if she is collabing again with homos, something tells me she not going to do it again since Bae now has Ame as an Anchor.
>>33679408Come back during SEA/JP primetime and type this again with a straight face.
>>33679782i think she's just keeping quiet about it to avoid drama. She's too occupied with all the other bullshit going on in her life rn
>>33679745https://youtu.be/ah_05QFvS0khttps://youtu.be/_UWO3Gd7LmYhttps://youtu.be/M8Wfwwxcliohttps://youtu.be/wbc6geQNe4Yhttps://youtu.be/0QeJWfnm-sghttps://youtu.be/RSBX7Lj4oWohttps://youtu.be/x1VMDXpyjVQ>hurr no one cares about inter-branch collabs in nijisanji
>>33679726The only times I go out of /vt/ these days is when someone brings up a happening in this thread and I go over to the appropriate board to check
>>33679997so... she acknowledged they exist on twitter and maybe once on stream for their debut day and nothing since?
>>33680015when tempus debuted and the place got even filled with beggars, falseflaggers, and everyone became spineless cowards
>>33679997Fauna's stance is a bit more clear because she's gone out of her way to ignore homo mentions hidden mid super chat. Meanwhile Mumei has already collabed with homos and while she does ignore them she hasn't really been as blatant about it as Kiara or Fauna
>>33680051Interesting, how where the numbers for these streams?
You can actually tell that most hololive streams are botted since streams outside hololive usually peak early and start dropping while streams in hololive seems to just increase over time.Shit is unusual compared to the regular streaming audience behavior.
>>33680004And just like 4ch, you need to swim through an ocean of piss to find oneI mean, if YAGOO saviourfag drive is THAT strong, then sure ...
>>33680030At this point SEA/JP primetime until EU bedtime is a shitshow since 5 months ago.I blame that frog schizo
>>33680187Thanks. I got a good laugh out of this
>>33679854magni isn't a runt like blue boy also he has chupado buff
>>33679854>>33680021Tempissharts think it's an achievement to beat Iluna shitters? Can't even get close to Pomu, let alone Shu in a debuff timeslot. Tempus = failure.
>>33679726I can't quit browsing /v/ to get my shitposting fix but I only go there once or twice a day now. I pretty much always have /#/ open while I'm supposed to be working.
>>33680135neat, i left during offcollab arc with myth.
>>33680116Yes. Pity Twitter follows and when a superchat mentioned Tempus after they were announced she acted like she didn't know what it was. No mention of them since.
>>33679782she literally said during a q&a that was raided by global with tempus bait questions that she joined hololive because it was a group of GIRLS, and has literally never mentioned tempus
New NijiEN merchhttps://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1572405250148904960Acrylic stand, badge, and sticker
>>33680288anon shu is below tempus in that image
>>33680328Where's NijiID merch ?
>>33680328>New NijiEN merchthta's goo...>Acrylic stand, badge, and stickerof course
>>33680328What more can you expect.
>>33680328Iluna....
>>33680328>Acrylic stand, badge, and stickerSo its still the same stuff then except for no keychain.
>>33680364look at it again anon
>>33680368Where is NijiID
>>33680288NIjiseethe
>>33680186I'm not gonna look that up now, but Sasaki's 2nd day in PUBG where she played with Vox and Elira had much more views than the first day where she played with JP members:https://youtu.be/-shftVF8Uzshttps://youtu.be/2BbAXf6Kpz8
>>33680328Where's your cake merch? Even Homos have those
>>33680451who?
>>33680328it's for the animations i reckon?
>>33680328better luck next year Iluna
>>33680368there isn't a so called NjiID
>>33680051>10k views>23k views>214k views (koshien buff)>52k>65k>15kthe fuck's wrong with you sister? these are impressive numbers to you? you think they prove your point?
>>33680529Why don't they make some action figures? Does anyone buy that crap?
>>33679566AND OTHER HILARIOUS JOKES RETARDS ACTUALLY BELIEVE
>>33680529This is worse than indie merch. Post Kson merch for comparison
>>33680368Whats nijiid? are you making things up again anon?
>>33680586didnt Anycolor get fucking blasted for trying to make a unique merch set once? or am I misremembering something
>Gura doing ID reps on top of JP repsshe wants to bail ship so badly
>>33680529Covid's art looks cheap
>>33679726I'm pretty much split between /#/, /v/, and the /bgg/ thread on /tg/
Jesus I think the Kronii bullshit may have hurt all of EN way more than I thought. Maybe the JP viewers left?
>>33680581Nijisanji fans actually watch streams instead of clippers. Alien concept to you Holofags, I know.
Sad numbers for Kromei, I guess Kronii fans only want to watch her collab with men from now on
>>33680469So NijiEN is actually carrying the whole branch in terms of being relevant.
Numberbros I need to know: Do Holodex: Multiview views count as views? If so do they count for all streamers or just the first one?
>>33680631Imagine what a trainwreck EN is behind the scenea if this is what we see leaking out
>solo fauna mogging both mumei and kronii kekwe should make snot just 2 members
>>336806515ch is turning against EN after the male collabs.
>>33680690Moralfags didnt even last for 2 days rur
>>33680690>Kromei lower than split pov ameJesas
>>33680631>doing indonesian repsanon please, its just a stream gimmick. do you think she also learned german?
Are the VSPO girls taking over the NA niji timeslot?
>>33680668Oh so today VOD views dont matter. Cant wait for tomorrow.
>>33680651>>33680753>JP viewers leftJeez, I wonder where they went to
>>33680732>>33680690It's fucking we were here together this game ALWAYS had shit numbers, no matter who stream it.
>>33680368
>>33680668thats fucking sad then considering they still get beaten by the failures that are council and myth even though 50% of their fans are just clipwatchers.
WKWKWK
>>33680668Pathetic cope
>>33680713pretty sure not as a live view (CCV), but maybe they get counted as a video view
>>33680732Wtf how can this be!? Kronies where are all our twitter tranny supporters who love homo collabs!?!?
>>33680809God damn Pippa really is a consistent 4 view now. Unironically she's gonna have better numbers than Aia and Scarle this month
>>33680690Can we even call it kromei anymore? They dont play into the ship outside of liking random art and they rarely collab nowadays. That aside though, Kronii really ruined it for future EN gens.
>>33680713vod view not ccv view
>>33680753Based. Reminder that JP bros make up 25% of all EN viewership.
>>33680651Maybe some fans are tired about drama shit (or tired about holofans) idk
how do we save kronii and mumei?
>>33680827Flopgur needs to cope with Nijisanji poor performance please understand
>>33680690there is a portion of the fandom that actually hate kromei, also they already played a prequel(?) it was a snoozefest
>I want to build cool stuff with EN... together...someone please play Minecraft with Fauna already, goddamn
>>33680328Does Niji have the kind of audience who would buy merch even if it is 'simpler' (compared to stuff like plushies, cups, notebooks, shirts)? Like maybe they would buy anything, even multiple copies, as long as it supports the talent. Or is this just a cost saving / production numbers decision?
>>33680958Source?
>>33680910Considering the reason Kronii went full retard about shipping and flip flopped a bunch was because she likes Kromei, yes
Mumei needs to stay away from Amelia and Kronii if she cares about her numbers (she doesn't)
>they dont hate minecraft they just dont want to do anythingfauna...
>>33680867>kronii moralfags hate anti-male members>cgdctfags hates homowhoresWhats left are their core members
>>33680651The game is shit so I don't know if this is great indicator. 6k for Kronii and Mumei is admittedly sort of low though.
>>33681026Damn we need an all out war level leak to dispel the rats this arc will form.
>>33680977EN3 will... I hope...
>>33680651The real reason for it is not really due to the male collab in and off itself. It is because>Kronii lied, or at least didn't keep her words>Kronii frantically covering up her lies with the tweet "yeah I think I don't need to keep my promise and should do what makes me happy">Management support talent's "I do what I want" attitude and don't address what the issues fans are talking aboutIt just shows the attitude of EN in general including both talents and management.
>>33680977The thing about Fauna, is that she pitty bait on stream with her "I'm so fucking lonely" bullshit on stream, but she's never going to ask anyone to play with her.
>>33680651>>33680690/u/fags hate queerbaiting with passion. They feel cheated and taken for fools. Kronii is not going to pass as "lesbian" anymore. She sank all the girl on girl ships. t. /u/fag. I'm still salty with Kyoani for KumiReina.
>>33681026Kek. Lazy whores. Hopefully EN3 has autists like Choco, Koyori and Kaela
I'm honestly impressed Magni is even getting those numbers. I checked the stream and there's basically no talking.
>>33681026She said that on stream?
>>33681026Irys 100% hates Minecraft because it never gave her good numbers
>>33680969you mean this stream that had an open runway and got 2 funnels from Gura MC and Ame/Sana last collab?
>>33680651I dunno but I can say personally that it's not fun to feel like a streamer is pissed off at their viewers, I always lose interest in someone after they've had these big apocalyptic confrontations with some segment of their audience. I used to be membered to Mori but cannot go back these days even though her content is actually better in my opinion, just isn't the same
I HATE SUSANshe obviously has at least 60k people watching (based on the support she got on twitter) and susan only gives us a tenth of that???? hello????PLUS mumei got almost 7k alone in a split POV with ame a few hours ago, this should be AT LEAST 67k
>>33680971Fulgur is right though Myth Council and Hope are Failures.
>>33680690it's almost as if you need to have a personalitybad news: they dontso now that parasocials are gone kronii will actualy have to try harder
Fauna ending, track the funnel
fauna bouta save these fucking abysmal numbers slightly
>>33680651Mumei is gura waiting room and gura is on reine's stream rn. Fauna also obviously shares alot of viewers with kronii and moom.
>>33681026EN desperately needs more members.
>>33681068The biggest rrat for EN3 is unironically that Fauna still bothers to keep up the minecraft server
>>33681102She said the other ENs aren't motivated to play because there's no reason to. Not motivated to make anything atm
>>33681102more like they dont really have goals in it to work towards besides like... ID portal?
>>33681115just graduate mumei and kronii please
>>33681008A factor indeed
>>33681177Why, so they can ghost her too or even worse just dont stream?
>>33681026These bitches are never finding Sana's shit LMAO
>>33681267>they can ghost herLOLFauna don't organize collab. She just makes sad comment and hope someone will reach out to her.
>>33681234Meanwhile Fubuki has a legendary void stream just digging a hole
>>33681267At least with more members, the chance someone wants to play Minecraft with her is higher.
>>33680980Don't Ask Questions, Just Consume Product and Then Get Excited for Next Products
>>33681102what she means is that they dont have any goals in minecraft atmOn that note I remember kiara and reine saying that they had a ID/EN Festival even planned in November and Kaela was farming stuff for that.
>idk how this is pronnounced>idk why it means thatwhat evidence do we have that Reine speaks indonesian, again?
>>33681133We already confirmed from the last stream that Kronii is being culled by 91%, it's crazy.
>>33681336>On that note I remember kiara and reine saying that they had a ID/EN Festival even planned in NovemberIs that actually a thing, do you have a timestamp ? Because it's a pretty good idea
mumei and kronii got a way bigger funnel than reine. Pretty expected
>>33681382cope holofagthe only one thats confirmed to be culled is vox and selen
>>33681345Reine is from Kalimantan right? Her mother tongue should be Iban/Sea Dayak instead of Indonesian.
>>33681345Do you know the reason behind every little quirk of your language? Why is "cool" the word for cool stuff in English? What the fuck does temperature have to do with something like that? And don't google it!
>>33681442Don't forget Towa. She confirmed one of her lives had a bigger number than we could see
>Magni 6k floor!>Magni 5k floor!>Magni 4k floor!>Magni 3k floor!(You are here)
>JP drops minecraft and barely touches it>based holojp based samurai nation>EN drops minecraft and barely touches it>en is shit and lazy they should graduate
>>33681421It was during the summer festival if i remember correctly.
>>33681456I think you are making stuff up, sounds like fake lenguages
>>33681234sandbox is all about internal motivations though, so they need to come up with the goals themselves. do they know not that or are they actually retarded and expect it to become fun by doing nothing?
>>33681313Anon, that stream is only good for meme value and nothing else ... Also>Streamed live on Jul 22, 2020Jesas I feel old ...
>>33681506Why is Magni such a collab baby?
>>33677511Where you have seen that kind of talk outside of here? If they are talking like this they are morons who dont even know anything about JP>>33677578false>Finana: 11Onmyoji in September, Blue Archive in December, Princess Connect in January, Summoner Wars in April, Otaku's Adventure in May, Vanguard in june, Punishing: Gray Raven in July, Punishing: Gray Raven in August, Cardfight Vanguard Anime Watchalong, Punishing: Gray Raven and Artery Gear Fusion in September>Elira: 10Onmyoji in September, Project Sekai in november, Pronty in December, Alchemy Stars in January, Japan Cultural Expo in March, Genshin Impact in April, PUBG Mobile in May, Punishing: Gray Raven and Alice Fiction in July, Tower of Fantasy in August>Pomu: 10Onmyoji in September, Project Sekai in November, Princess Connect in January, Japan Cultural Expo in March, Cookie Run in May and Touhou Lost World in May, RUINSMAGUS and Punishing: Gray Raven in July, Mangamo and Tower of Fantasy in August>Selen: 7Project Sekai in October, Princess Connect in January, PUBG Mobile in May, Overwatch League in July, Punishing: Gray Raven and Tower of Fantasy in August, Goddess of Victory: Nikke in September>Petra: 6Project Sekai and Alchemy Stars in January, AnimeJapan in March, Otaku's Adventure in May, CounterSide in June, Alice Fiction in August>Nina: 6Princess Connect in January, Solasta in April, PUBG Mobile in May, Tower of Fantasy in June, Tower of Fantasy and Gamescom Cosplay contest in August>Millie: 6Princess Connect in January, CounterSide, Shadowverse and Vanguard in June, Tower of Fantasy in August, Thy Creature in September>Rosemi: 7 Japan Cultural Expo in March, Solasta in April, Shadoverse and Tower of Fantasy in June, Affogato in July, Tower of Fantasy in August, Tokyo Game Show Tour guide in September>Reimu: 6Princess Connect in January, PUBG mobile in May, CounterSide and Defend the Bits in June, Tower of Fantasy in August, Sonic Frontiers in September>Shu: 5Alchemy Stars, Shadowverse and Tower of Fantasy in June, Alice Fiction in July, Tower of Fantasy in August>Vox: 4Cookie Run in May, Naraka and Tower of Fantasy in June, Tower of Fantasy in August>Alban: 4Alchemy Stars in June, ibispaint in july, Tower of Fantasy and Gamescom in August>Ike: 2Shadowverse in June, Tower of Fantasy in August>Luca: 2Genshin Impact in April, Tower of Fantasy in August>Mysta: 2PUBG Mobile in May, Tower of Fantasy in August>Enna: 2Princess Connect in January, Tower of Fantasy in August>Sonny: 1Tower of Fantasy in August>UkiTower of Fantasy in August>Fulgur:1Tower of Fantasy in August>Scarle: 1Goddess of Victory: Nikke in September
Is this going to be the lowest collab Gura's ever been part of? Outside watchalongs ofc