/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>tempiss debuts
>stay neutral as it's too soon to judge
>see the astroturf paid by omega for the whole board to see
>still not watching them but staying neutral
>immediate collabs with the girls, flirting and attacking part of the fans
>youtube algo recomends the collab clips
>3 dots-> do not recomend me this channel
>open filters-> add "tempus", "MANS"
>save filters
Well done omega, I'm sure the astroturf worked as you expected, I don't hate the guys per se but no amount of shilling will make me like them and trying to shove them into my daily content only increases my resolve against them.
A male gen oriented to appeal to male viewers as "bro tubers"? Really? And the first thing you make them do is cause friction by making them interact with the girls as often as possible? Not only the stars branch is just sunken cost at this point, the mere idea of males oriented to males is retarded, the anime industry revolves around selling waifus, kancolle, genshin, love live, uma musume, you name it, all rely on selling waifus and not husbandos for an obvious reason, and now, their main selling point that is to be a "bro" starts off by a betrayal of trust by making them collab with the girls knowing well the reaction it would provoke... the guys may not deserve the hatred as they just follow orders and it's their job, but your whole project deserves to fail for sure.
Why didn't they go the Vox route? Explain it to me, why try to appeal to fans that already have made their posture clear since the existence of the jp stars that male vtubers aren't for them and expect that by forcing the guys hard enough suddenly for some reason everything will change? Why not make them appeal to women? The fujos? The kpop stans? The influx of new viewers may come slowly but it has higher chance of success than trying to convince people that already said no even before debut and then berating them for not liking the new direction.
And Irys still hasn't received her nose job, holy fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33604526
>Why didn't they go the Vox route?
I'd rather have bros than guys pandering to fujos and yumes

[Anonymous No.]

>>33604526
Too long didn't read, shorten it to 20 words or less

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>>33604526
Anonchama, genshin has husbandos

[Anonymous No.]

>Flirting
Everyone says this, but none of their interactions are what I would call flirting

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[Anonymous No.]

>>33604829
Don't play genshin, exception to the rule, whatever, the point stays.

[Anonymous No.]

Well written piece op

[Anonymous No.]

>Ayame fan
>Being a simp

[Anonymous No.]

>the anime industry revolves around selling waifus, kancolle, genshin, love live, uma musume, you name it, all rely on selling waifus and not husbandos for an obvious reason
my god, do you think the anime industry is only just waifus? Holy shit. I guess a lot of the popular, mainstream anime, manga and games don't count, not to mention the Blu-Ray discs for their movies, oh and how can we forget the Demon Slayer boom-

No. You just outed yourself as a CGDCT enthusiast and believed the anime industry revolves around that.

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>>33604829
But that proves his point as I assume he would prefer a fujobait stars branch (similar to genshin husbandos who primarily appeal to women) that stays separate from the girls rather than brotubers who collab with them.

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>>33604526
>>stay neutral as it's too soon to judge
No I was against it as soon as it was announced, because I knew it would be like this.
Actually I figured it would be like this as soon as the EN manager made it clear he was a guy, and reddit started spamming requrests for homo collabs. This world is too ugly and retarded for a group of cute girls to remain pure.

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>>33604526
>the anime industry revolves around selling waifus, kancolle, genshin, love live, uma musume, you name it, all rely on selling waifus and not husbandos for an obvious reason
lol not everything fits your taste retard, clearly you haven't been watching the other genre of anime, everything about waifus? Don't make me laugh

[Anonymous No.]

>tempiss
stopped reading there. thanks for the post OP!

[Anonymous No.]

>>33604526
You know that the most successful vtubers in the other company are mostly male right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33604526
>immediate collabs with the girls, flirting and attacking part of the fans
please tell me where the "flirting" is. I demand undeniable, clear-cut proof. Not out-of-context clips.

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>>33604526
>And Irys still hasn't received her nose job, holy fuck.
This is the only part that matters

[Anonymous No.]

>>33605246
You know that's not hololive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33605078
>outed yourself as a cgdct
Oh no that sounds horrible

Anyway all of this shitshow was predictable and poorly managed from the beginning to now and doesnt look like its getting better

[Anonymous No.]

>>33605329
Tbh I only read that part too

[Anonymous No.]

>>33605250
The blue guy made Kronii laugh, that counts, right??????

[Anonymous No.]

>Ayame pic
Once a cuck, always a cuckold.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33605434
>Blue guy made Kronii laugh
Yeah by accidentally injuring him, that's not flirting lol, try again

[Anonymous No.]

>>33605407
it doesn't sound horrible, by all means continue watching your cgcdt anime. I'm just saying that just waifus are not the bread and butter you think it is in the anime industry.

It's fine if you don't think it's getting better though, I'm not gonna judge.

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>>33604526
OP you are a nigger. Stop posting paragraphs with your nigger intellect LMAO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33604817
Waifus
Sell
Males
Do
Not
Hololive
Sells
Waifus
Why
Tempus
Sell
Bros
Instead
Of
Husbandos?
Omega
Retard

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[Anonymous No.]

>>33605500
But that’s the closest I’ve got unless you want to count Magni and Mori talking about their past furry commission art :(

[Anonymous No.]

>>33604526
>Why didn't they go the Vox route?
Have you seen Vox’s mental state recently? He’s actually fucking losing it.

Appealing to women is an easy way to lose your mind. Tempus seems to understand this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33605575
Your use of the phrase is wrong, waifus are actually the "bread and butter"

Anyway this shitshow was predictable and poorly managed from the beginning to now and doesn't look like its getting better

[Anonymous No.]

>>33605786
>Have you seen Vox’s mental state recently? He’s actually fucking losing it.
Even more reason to, steal that faggot's audience

[Anonymous No.]

>>33605687
they may be a corpo but they're not after money
>but money makes a corp more successful
If that's the case why didn't they dissolve StarsJP?
>because it's YAGOO's little pet project
and why aren't the other staff against it?
>because YAGOO is the CEO of Cover Corp
so just leave? He's not forcing them to stay, the vtuber corp would have fallen at that point yet here we are

[Anonymous No.]

>>33605906
Shoto already did. It’s a lost cause

[Anonymous No.]

......flirting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33605992
By Allah, if they make visual contact they are flirting and whip correction would be needed

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>>33604526
>the anime industry revolves around selling waifus
Except, like, most mainstream ones, yes. I guess things like Your Name, Kaguya and Spy X Family don't count because they have male-female relationships, don't further your point, and are way more popular than the things you used as examples.

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>>33605822
whatever floats your boat, everyone knows the mainstream shounen anime are the bread and butter, not just the waifus but this is no longer vtuber talk let's just agree to disagree

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>>33604526
>genshin
>all rely on selling waifus and not husbandos for an obvious reason
bro there are literally artists that make a living off of drawing kaeya x diluc yaoi what the fuck are you on about

[Anonymous No.]

>Why didn’t they go the Vox route?
Why would they? StarsJP has never done this and has always had a split gender audience. The branch is Yagoo’s passion project and he wants dudes he can play Mario Kart with, not the highest possible number.

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>>33605945
The break-even point on a Vtuber is probably a lot lower than people around here seem to think. Especially given how they're mostly paid on percentages, rather than a fixed salary. It wouldn't surprise me if StarsJP was technically profitable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33604908
You don't understand anon.
They talk to the males? Flirting.
Respond on Twitter? Flirting
Collabs? Right to flirting, right away.
Talk about males? Flirting.
Ignore the males? Believe it or not, flirting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33606223
well I don't know economics, I'm not pretending that I do unlike the rest of the numberfags. I don't even know how Cover splits the profits, you only get bits and pieces from the talents as hints.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33606223
???
There is the big initial investment in the model but once you pay it what kind of ukeep is left? Internet? Shouldn't everything be profit from there?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33606321
Laughing at their jokes? Not flirting!
Collabing with them weekly? Not flirting!
Getting the company to write an announcement to allow you to collab with them whenever you want Not flirting!
Flirting? Not flirting!

[Anonymous No.]

>>33605158
Bro, the kind of 30 year old otaku loners who are the most susceptable to becoming die-hard supporters of Vtubers like 2 kinds of anime.
> CGDCT
> Hypermasculine

If it ain't Fist of the North Star or Chobits we don't care about it. If you watch anything else you're a normie and don't belong in Otaku hobbies.

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>>33605078
>demon slayer
>not selling waifus
Anon, are you mentally challenged?

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>>33605359
You know that OP mentioned Vox which is a Nijisanji vtuber and the majority of Nijisanji top vtubers are considered brotubers by the nips right?

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>>33606604
Laughing at someone’s joke is not flirting. Hate to tell you.

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>>33606433
That's what I mean. Most of the investment is already sunk by the time a talent even has the opportunity to under-perform. There's no real real to fire them just because they suck, and it'd probably be bad for morale if they did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33606911
>things don't escalate ever

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>>33605078
>Demon Slayer
>not selling waifus

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>>33606716
Fuck, you had to remind me how fucked NijiEN is because Luxiem debuted first. I'm actually finding my EN NijiJP fix in Tempus now.

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>>33605078
They sell action or waifus, nothing else. No one gives a fuck about a good story in anime or anime movies. The waifus make fucktons more bank than good animation and story. If you don't have waifus, you need to have action.

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>>33604526
>genshin
>The game that starting to censor the only good thing that shit have to pander trannies ,SJW and chink feminist
You are Nigger, but at least you put love live

[Anonymous No.]

>>33607045
the only one escalating it are (You) guys

[Anonymous No.]

>>33607002
Ah my eyes failed me, I read the stars were not profitable instead of the opposite

[Anonymous No.]

>>33607197
Really? Because I'm pretty we are at the "Getting the company to write an announcement to allow you to collab with them whenever you want? Not flirting!" part

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>>33606321
No. I don't think you understand anon.

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>>33605954
Dare I say based?

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>>33606716
>and the majority of Nijisanji top vtubers are considered brotubers by the nips right?
Well no, I didn't know, in my defence I have to say that I don't watch nijisanji and in addition to that I don't watch male vtubers, but didn't he had some kind of little drama with the blue Ayame and some fujos were mad about it?

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>>33607968
So the reason you think unicorn pandering is the only way to have an audience is because you're a newfag who's only ever watched post-coco Hololive?
Who could've predicted this!?

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>>33608242
More like post-Myth Hololive bandwagoners. Would Coco even fly with these people when she wanted to collab with Melody.

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>>33604526
>Why not make them appeal to women?
they do appeal to women

[Anonymous No.]

>>33608693
They do?

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>>33608756
They do.

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>>33608637
Coco was hated for a reason. She was never liked in /jp/ before global accused anyone of criticising her being a zhang

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>>33608807
I would hardly count the legions of filthy Filipino roasties here "women"

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>>33608693
Women don't like weekly Mori collabs

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>>33608881
I wasn't in /jp/ back then because /a/ was kinda still good but not really. Who else was hated? I can imagine Coco and Suisei, then Towa, then the Nousagis because they're obnoxious like what the Chumkeks are now.

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>>33608637
I used Coco as a reference because that's around the time male collabs ended (due in part to the China yab, which made no external talents want to collab with Hololive), but the addition of EN certainly exacerbated it.

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>>33608242
>So the reason you think unicorn pandering is the only way to have an audience
You're implying too much, never said that and came before myth, if kaneki kun made his audience that way and it works for nijis then good for them, but it clearly didn't for hololive

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>>33608934
Actual "what is a woman" argument.
That's it, we've gone full horseshoe and arrived at troon territory.

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>>33606632
Does JoJo not count or is that normie for you too? Just curious

[Anonymous No.]

>>33604908

Why would you expect someone who makes a post like OP to know what flirting looks like?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33609337
>it clearly didn't work for hololive
Maimoto collabs singlehandedly made Subaru's channel successful.
27&JK was Matsuri's most popular content in the west, and helped popularize the company when she was one of the most successful talents in the company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33609337
You are out of your mind if you thought Pekora blew up because of unicorns and gachikois kek
One example, she was shilled by Sugita back then because she was funni peko peko streamer. Woman is the top female streamer in the world because she's good.

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>>33604526
Never seen a good Ayame post.

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>>33606604
>Getting the company to write an announcement to allow you to collab with them whenever you want
What they wrote has always been their position. You just don't watch Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>33608881
Incredible newfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>he thinks the collabs were forced by Omega

[Anonymous No.]

>>33609839
>Maimoto collabs singlehandedly made Subaru's channel successful.
And is still doing it seems
>27&JK was Matsuri's most popular content in the west, and helped popularize the company when she was one of the most successful talents in the company
And is still doing it seems
Now tell me how did that work out for the stars.

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>>33604526
>the mere idea of males oriented to males is retarded
I don't really care about this brotuber crap but I would watch any streamer that is entertaining. All the streamers I watched back in the day on twitch were male streamers who played niche anime games and did speedruns. If some vtuber comes along and offers the same sort of content but happens to also be using a live2d avatar then I wouldn't mind watching.

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>>33609839
Who the fuck is Maimoto and why would collabing with some 2 view nobody make Subaru successful? Sounds like cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>33610792
men don't need the anime avatar crutch to be entertaining therefore any man that uses it is bound to be shit

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>>33610906
Seeing comments like this makes me miss the old vtuber community on this site that wasn't 95% EOP tards.

[Anonymous No.]

Niji is irrelevant for a reason. The HoloJP formula works. Even Kuzuha is a shitter these days and Salome...the less said about Salomes legendary recline the better

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>>33610756
correlation≠causation, retardchama. Hololive was already well on its way to market domination by the time they stopped collabing with males, which lockdown accelerated. It worked before for hololive and worked elsewhere for Niji. What makes you think it wouldn't work here and now for Hololive?
I fail to see how StarsJP is relevant. They're just not very good...

>>33610906
Because she was a 1view at the time, performing well below her fellow talents...

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone can answer me why there are people who get mad because someone who they watch, who don't even know who they are besides maybe reading their online handle in a superchat one time, is collabing with people of the opposite sex? Do they think it's impossible for a male and a female to interact without wanting to/actually fuck each other? Do they think they have even 0.0000001% of a chance to ever having an actual concrete real life relationship with ANY of the talent? Do they see vtubers as anything more than just people doing entertainment? I really can't wrap my brain around this.

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>>33611114
They don't need it, but that doesn't mean it's not a cool gimmick to have. Some streamers don't want to show themselves on webcam but being able to convey their face and body language to their viewers can make the streams more interesting.

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>>33604526
>see the astroturf paid by omega for the whole board to see
Im glad I wasnt the only one who noticed how obivious that shit was.
fuck omegatranny

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>>33604526

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>>33611415
Go back, reddit tourist

[Anonymous No.]

>>33604526
Didn't read lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>33611415
Yes I can :3

[Anonymous No.]

>>33612751
so fucking cringe. these idiots have zero charisma, and anime avi makes them cringe. they are not going to be the next pewds with this trash.
when dudes want to see cool dudes on youtube, we watch guntubers, cartubers, actual interest content, the dude being cool/entertaining just makes it easier to absorb the content and learn, like a good teacher.

[Anonymous No.]

>all these burgers complaining about having to read more then 20 words
Do americans really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>33604526
Based Nakirigumi
I read your whole post by the way and I agreed with every single point you made. TemPISS must must be flushed down the toilet and Omegatroon must hang.

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>>33609500
Not him but Jojo is for normie faggots

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>>33613215
??? Vesper's zatsus are world class.

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>>33613215
That's too many words just to say you're a sensitive lil faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>33613215
I never watched female streamers or content creators but hololive made it work.

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>>33617301
to elaborate more. I only watch flesh male streamers or just people who stream with just their voice, none of those people uses gay avatar shit.
Those people usually have a talent or an interesting hobby or are pushing themselves to reach their aspiration in life and you can see the progress in real time which that in turns inspires the viewer to also do their best.

Getting that crowd in the west to watch male vtubers to just play vidya ain't going to cut.