>Nazuna got a break down stream >Zen today start stream and break up, start banning people in chat ohshit.jpg Time to post something for people to forget about it

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TALENT FREEDOM Mon Sep 19 20:59:25 2022 No.33578813 [Reply] [Original]

>Nazuna got a break down stream
>Zen today start stream and break up, start banning people in chat
ohshit.jpg
Time to post something for people to forget about it

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:03:51 2022 No.33579081 >>33578813 What happened to Rushia Blanca?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:04:36 2022 No.33579120 Explain the Zen thing

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:05:23 2022 No.33579200 qrd

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:05:25 2022 No.33579204 >>33578813 A lot of streamers would die for an audience and Zen just bans his chat. Ban him from Vshonen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:05:53 2022 No.33579234 I hate this awful company. I don't hate the talents, but I hate how suffocating this company is to Nazuna who clearly wants to move to YouTube but can't because of VShojo's shitty contract

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:06:09 2022 No.33579257 i don't care about vsh*jo Why didn't the Holo ENs do this for Kronii?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:06:49 2022 No.33579302 >>33579120 Zen is a menhera and has spaz attacks from time to time

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:07:40 2022 No.33579350 >>33579257 They got the main account to do it, it would've been too blatantly obvious they're being forced if the mems also tweeted

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:08:11 2022 No.33579376 >>33578813 Kinda reminds me of all the NijiENs talking about how they LOVE THEIR NIJIEN FAMILY all at the same time

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:08:40 2022 No.33579398 >>33579302 The dude larping as a woman constantly has mental issues, impossible

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:08:51 2022 No.33579407 >>33579234 I wouldn't go as far as hate but they've been more shit (as if that was possible) than usual lately

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:09:11 2022 No.33579424 >>33579234 wtf? I thought they had freedom????????

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:09:37 2022 No.33579448 Zen always has mental breakdowns, it's a meme by now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:09:50 2022 No.33579469 Peeshitshow really wouldn’t be nearly as bad if they didn’t have a dude using text to speak involved. Really sick shit cuz you know there is some autistic kid in love with him and he doesn’t know

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:10:38 2022 No.33579527 >>33579234 Bitch signed the contract and almost certainly got a bucket of cash for it. Suck it up and stream on twitch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:11:23 2022 No.33579576 >>33579081 only thing i know is nazu saying shes blocked from streaming on youtube by contract and expressed some dissatisfaction with her earnings

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:12:50 2022 No.33579659 >>33578813 I rly wonder why ppl watch the tranny Zen

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:13:12 2022 No.33579685 >>33579576 >doesn't earn 1.5 million $ each year anymore >time for another schizo outburst episode! I can't fathom what she's wasting the money at. What she should get is a good therapist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:13:57 2022 No.33579727 >>33578813 >Nazuna got a break down stream Nah, it wasn't a breakdown. It's kinda like something she does (usually on a tweetcast) every now and then. You guys have to remember she is a diagnosed manic-depressive.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:14:11 2022 No.33579740 >>33579685 Drugs and host clubs.

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:14:49 2022 No.33579778

>>33579234
>but I hate how suffocating this company is
I am asking genuinely, what's suffocating about it? Considering they supposedly pride themselves in talent freedom, what could possibly be so restrictive besides not being able to stream on YT? Or is it literally just that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:15:03 2022 No.33579796 >>33579685 >>33579740 mafumafu condoms

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:15:07 2022 No.33579802 >>33579685 gacha

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:15:20 2022 No.33579822 >>33579685 She has a collection of designer bags.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:17:12 2022 No.33579934 File: 32 KB, 271x403, 1651846227005.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>33578813 brown people please leave nazutan alone

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:18:16 2022 No.33579990 >>33578813 So she posted this ironically? Or is it damage control

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:18:54 2022 No.33580025 >>33579576 Wait, what happened to talent freedom?????????

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:20:26 2022 No.33580106 BIG HAPPY FAMILY

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:20:37 2022 No.33580118 >>33579822 the fuck is wrong with her and laplus? these bitches keep wasting mountains of money for useless crap

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:21:17 2022 No.33580153 >>33580118 they are femoids

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:21:41 2022 No.33580169 >>33579990 I mean...everything some bullshit happens usually VSHOJO put Nyanners, Ironmouse, and Veibae to post how much they love VSHOJO and how free they feel

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:21:59 2022 No.33580183 >>33579778 That sounds pretty restrictive, even the boogeyman Hololive doesn't block them from streaming on Twitch

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:22:15 2022 No.33580193 >>33580118 It's quite common for girls with a tons of money. They just spend on bags nonstop.

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:22:27 2022 No.33580206

>>33580025
idk, maybe the manager is a bit too heavy handed in wrangling the tard or she didnt challenge a clause in her contract before she signed it

or maybe kson is still on youtube because she had already established herself on youtube and told VS the deals off if she had to abandon her established channel

>>33580118
women spending

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:23:21 2022 No.33580252 >>33579234 What happened to the talent freedom?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:24:11 2022 No.33580314 >>33579778 >just that You say like it's not a major issue.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:24:49 2022 No.33580348 i thought they had "TALENT FREEDOM™"? what happened?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:24:58 2022 No.33580359 >>33580206 m-manager?? but kekson told me this was a happy indie company..????

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:25:13 2022 No.33580371 >>33580183 >>33580314 I mean, I guess, but that doesn't exactly impact the content itself (well, technically it does, but from what I've seen Twitch and YT are more or less the same with their autistic rules, correct me if I'm wrong).

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:25:23 2022 No.33580380 >>33579234 That's what she get by making a deal with the tranny devil

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:25:44 2022 No.33580404 >>33579576 >Only speak Japanese >Stream on a platform Japanese people don't use Who could have possibly seen this coming?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:26:09 2022 No.33580426 >>33578813 >Nazuna got a break down stream I'm glad she still feels like shit, I hope it will keep getting worse.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:27:10 2022 No.33580475 >>33579685 Vshojo hiring this whore is the worst decision they made.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:28:14 2022 No.33580522 >>33580359 the idea that a corp is letting their contractors do whatever they like without oversight is laughable, especially in the case of the girl who menhera'd her golden ticket down the toilet

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:28:51 2022 No.33580562 >>33579778 YT is where her audience is. I mean, c'mon now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:30:24 2022 No.33580660 >>33579234 She can't even stream as mikeneko like before?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:30:25 2022 No.33580661 >>33580475 >Vshojo hiring this whore Which one?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:30:44 2022 No.33580683 That's what you get for hiring a menhera.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:31:00 2022 No.33580699 File: 14 KB, 112x112, ESLTARD.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>33578813 >Zen today start stream and break up

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:31:29 2022 No.33580728 >>33580661 I'm talking about Nazuna. Fancucks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:31:53 2022 No.33580755 Does Nazuna even do anything but play Apex and Minecraft and maybe once played Fall Guys?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:31:54 2022 No.33580756 So, why are they forced to use twitch? I thought the platform is just a matter of convenience and a networking tool(raids)? White Russia always had a youtube audience so it makes sense for her to move back there

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:32:36 2022 No.33580798 >>33580728 If anything its the best choice Vshojo even made, she has the other talents acting more seiso since she joined.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:33:15 2022 No.33580832 File: 1.38 MB, 498x498, 16e9636727079f9d9d671a2a6425cc03.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>33580683 >a menhera >a

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:33:26 2022 No.33580843 Did anything actually happen with Zen? Or is OP just allergic to English?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:34:11 2022 No.33580879 >>33580843 nothing happened with zen, he's just reaching

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:34:41 2022 No.33580903 >>33580118 Women are responsible for 70% of nationwide spending and I don't expect that to be any different in Nippon. Women throughout history have loved spending someone else's money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:34:45 2022 No.33580913 >>33579685 the finest male seed to pump directly into her womb

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:35:12 2022 No.33580941 >>33580798 >seiso Fuck this idol shit. No wonder that whore can't fit in Vshojo lol.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:35:57 2022 No.33580983 >>33578813 nice rrat... Too bad zen streamed in the afternoon and mouse posted it in the morning. Last time she vague posted like this was days before kson and rushia annoucement so there's something coming up soon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:36:10 2022 No.33580986 >>33580728 She played splatoon 3 and did karaoke during her "break down stream" Also seen her play mariokart, smash, splatoon 2, stray, valorant, monster hunter, cult of the lamb and a couple of others.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:36:16 2022 No.33580990 >>33579234 NO MY TALENT SNEEDOM

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:36:19 2022 No.33580996 >>33579234 Imagine blaming the contact instead of rushia blanca for failing to read

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:36:29 2022 No.33581006 Does vshitshow even take that much of her money? Really, she is probably keeping the most money she has ever been able to from her earnings, she is just earning less now which is why she wants back into Youtube.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:36:38 2022 No.33581013 >>33580941 If Vshojo is about talent freedom, then shouldn't that be allowed?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:36:47 2022 No.33581022 Unironic kronii deflection thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:37:52 2022 No.33581084 >>33581013 yes some hypocrisy going on there, but if there was something wrong with the contract why did she sign it and is whining about it now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:37:58 2022 No.33581090 >>33579576 What a fucking whore, she already is making extra bank sueing people that dislike her, god forbid she isnt earning 10000000000 yen every stream

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:38:03 2022 No.33581097 >>33579234 >Doesnt want to be an indie >Signs with big vtuber company, despite their "restrictions" you cant have the best of both worlds. Theres positives and negatives to most choices in life.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:38:15 2022 No.33581106 >>33581013 Because its clear from her interactions that there's a couple members of vshojo she does not respect.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:38:27 2022 No.33581119 >>33579234 Tell her to stop leaching Vshojo then pussy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:38:32 2022 No.33581128 >>33581006 >I love my fans >Only when you're throwing money at me!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:39:25 2022 No.33581182 >>33581106 BIG HAPPY FAMILY

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:40:10 2022 No.33581231
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>>33579234
Fucking dramawhores can't stop making shit up?
Rushia was never confortable in Youtube, that's why she has no public streams as Mikeneko even before joining Vshojo, she avoided Youtube using Twitcasting and move to Twitch.

You subhumans are so desperate for drama or deflecting of something you're making shit up about streamers you don't watch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:40:41 2022 No.33581256 >>33581106 Source-Your ass

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:41:12 2022 No.33581282 >>33581231 hi mouse

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:42:08 2022 No.33581338 >>33581231 Yet she complain about unable to stream in youtube. >You're not giving enough money to your wife

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:42:55 2022 No.33581384 >>33581231 >Rushia was never comfortable in Youtube kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:42:58 2022 No.33581389 >>33580426 >I'm glad she still feels like shit she doesn't she likes attention

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:43:50 2022 No.33581437 >>33579576 >shes blocked from streaming on youtube by contract TALENT FREEDOM

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:44:06 2022 No.33581460 >>33581384 >streaming once or twice in Youtube means you're comfortable in Youtube

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:44:37 2022 No.33581484
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>Nazuna got a break down stream
Nazuna *had* a breakdown stream (which is normal for her, she did that all the time in Hololive too, bitch is nuts)

>Zen today start stream and break up, start banning people in chat
I can't even correct this because I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.

>Time to post something for people to forget about it
The word you're looking for is "distraction". As in "time to make a bait thread as a distraction from the massive Hololive controversy".

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:45:17 2022 No.33581516 >>33578813 >Nazuna got a break down stream It was always just a matter of time, and it'll only go downhill from here. It's going to be funny to see.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:45:41 2022 No.33581540 >>33581460 . . .

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:46:39 2022 No.33581597 >>33581084 >but if there was something wrong with the contract why did she sign it Because she didn't read it and simply trusted kson's good will Kson forgot to tell her that she had to take her own model for this to work

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:46:53 2022 No.33581611 >>33581437 I'm absolutely not a vshojo fag, but unironically yes. Their schtick is basically "do whatever you want where Susan can't see" so it's not really a contradiction

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:47:00 2022 No.33581620
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>>33579234
VShojo does not stop anyone from streaming anywhere. Half of VShojo has streamed on YT Kson still streams on YT regularly. This faggot's just been shitting up vsj+ with blatantly untrue shit and is bringing it here where people don't know any better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:47:09 2022 No.33581628 For those who lack reading comprehension, no-one in this thread understands Japanese and watches Nazuna. Everything here is a work of fiction.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:48:32 2022 No.33581705 >>33578813 >Nazuna got a break down stream Are you trying to say she broke down on stream

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:49:02 2022 No.33581730 >>33581231 hey fancuck, in a nazu stream she literally said she wants to stream on youtube as nazu

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:50:59 2022 No.33581850 >>33581628 In Nezuna's thread her fans did talking about it though or her fans are just bunch of EOPs misleading by a false translation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:53:15 2022 No.33581980 >>33581620 >blatantly untrue So what you are saying is that Rushia is lying? What he posted came from her own words

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:54:08 2022 No.33582028

>>33579576
>Nazu saying shes blocked from streaming on youtube by contract
And you believe her? Just like that?
Because I don't, it is still the lamest and most bullshit excuse she could've pulled.
She doesn't want to stream in YT because it'll collide with her other persona, that's it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:54:23 2022 No.33582043 >>33581980 that nyan stream was a private stream, it wasn't public, he's trying to fool you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:54:28 2022 No.33582048 >>33581980 Shhh. Now keyfags are trying to blame on the translator.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:56:05 2022 No.33582149 >>33581628 maybe if it's so concerning to you that people are misunderstanding her then her OWN TRANSLATOR should do a better job

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:56:33 2022 No.33582179 >>33582028 Yes she is happily streaming in twitch where she make way less money! She must be very happy right now

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:56:35 2022 No.33582181 >>33582043 >It wasn't public come on anon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CuCN2wc3OI

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:57:01 2022 No.33582207 >>33582028 What persona? Rushia is dead and michael streams on niconico

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:57:35 2022 No.33582242 >>33581980 It's called a "misunderstanding". Nazuna is retarded and thinks she is Twitch exclusive because she has Japanese autism and won't ask her manager if she can use Youtube too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:57:57 2022 No.33582264 When realized that there is much more talent freedom in hololive.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:58:56 2022 No.33582316 >>33581850 The irony of this post...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 21:59:39 2022 No.33582364 >>33582264 True, at least holos can stream on twitch and youtube, rumao

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:01:11 2022 No.33582449 >>33582242 I thought vshojo had talent freedom and a lack of a manager is a big part of why they're good Suddenly they have managers?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:01:37 2022 No.33582474 >>33582181 And while I'm at it. Mouse does a new YT stream every 100k YT subs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl90UolOES4

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:02:10 2022 No.33582511 Chatte Michel can still stream anywhere, I don't see the big issue.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:02:25 2022 No.33582532 >>33582449 All big streamers have managers. The difference is that for most streamers the managers answer to the streamers and help them, while in Hololive they serve the company and are there to cuck the talents.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:02:56 2022 No.33582556 >>33582048 That guy is trying to defend VShojo by implying that Nazuna is a liar. Why would any "keyfag" call her a liar?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:03:13 2022 No.33582568 >>33582532 You just described what vshojo is doing to Rushia, why are you obsessed with hololive?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:04:01 2022 No.33582604 >>33582242 >managers don't bother explaining to their talent about where they can and can't stream >for two months Sounds like the managers are really shit, then?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:04:10 2022 No.33582612 Twitch is a retarded platform. Without exclusive agreement, revenue is doomed. No wonder sykkuno ran away to youtube.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:07:27 2022 No.33582785 File: 542 KB, 780x1060, 1653165691243.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So this is what its come down to? Half literate esls making bait threads from screenshots with random subtitles slapped onto them?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:08:29 2022 No.33582837 >>33582785 Based esls exposing vshitjo, I kneel

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:10:11 2022 No.33582913 File: 104 KB, 303x404, bdkfjduwemcx.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>33582028 Hey if it makes Vshojo look bad I'll believe it

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:10:12 2022 No.33582914 >>33582316 I know my English is bad please understand.

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:10:23 2022 No.33582918

>>33581620
>shitting up vsj+
When people post things straight from Nazuna's mouth in that thread, they were told
>you don't know what you're talking about
>you're wrong
>stop spreading rrats
Pretty much calling Nazuna a liar. Are you surprised that you may have annoyed a few of her fans? Why would you assume you know her contract better than she does?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:11:06 2022 No.33582947 >>33581460

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:12:10 2022 No.33582996

>>33582918
Yes anon because people who've watched VShojo for 2 years now and are very familiar with how it works from countless streams where all 8 of the girls would talk about the inner workings of the company carries more weight than something that doesn't match up. Either she was given a completely unique agreement from everyone else that nobody knows anything about, or she misrepresented something in what she said. It's literally 1 person's word vs 8 other confirmed accounts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:13:08 2022 No.33583035 File: 21 KB, 374x358, 46E86441-A5C3-4DE7-98FE-2A6F78F5E6D9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>33581460

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:13:52 2022 No.33583087 >>33582996 Nazuna signed a contract with the devil and Vshojocucks will defend it

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:15:18 2022 No.33583156

>>33582996
So then the natural conclusion one would reach would be that Nazuna's contract is in fact different, especially when she's under VShojoJp and not the EN side
And I really don't see how this whole "she's just misunderstanding" angle is much better. It's pretty atrocious, because either VShojo are really really bad at explaining her own employment contract to her, or they deliberately didn't (which would be extremely shady)
And even then, there is a certain audacity in saying
>I watch streams, so I understand Nazuna's employment contract better than her
You haven't even read her contract.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:16:40 2022 No.33583222 >>33583156 >she's under VShojoJp and not the EN side So is Kson who streams on both YT and Twitch though so that argument doesn't work unless you also mean to say it's different than Kson's as well which sounds insane.

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:17:55 2022 No.33583296

>>33583156
For the JP branch you have Kson who does more YT streams than anyone else in the company. If you want to be serious everyone just seems intent on trying to act like her line about other companies was unrelated to the context when everything known is that VShojo wouldn't care.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:18:16 2022 No.33583312 >>33582996 vwhorefags-chan kawaii

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:18:30 2022 No.33583336 >>33581106 In her defense, you'd have to be (even more) mentally ill to respect anyone in that trashheap of a company full of whores

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:18:36 2022 No.33583341 >>33583222 And yet it still sounds less insane than >she can't understand her own employment contract, and nobody, including her manager bothered to explain it for 2 months until she felt the need to bring it to the public's attention

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:19:36 2022 No.33583390 >>33583087 >with the devil She's a devil as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:19:42 2022 No.33583394 >>33583341 >she can't understand her own employment contract Considering what happened before, she doesn't have a good record of reading contracts it seems...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:20:25 2022 No.33583436 post a recording of the stream and I'll double check the translation

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:20:48 2022 No.33583455 >Holomems can stream on Twitch anytime, but Miguel Gato is banned from streaming on YouTube TALENT FREEDOM

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:20:58 2022 No.33583466 >>33583394 Why don't you explain, nice and clearly, your opinion on her personality and character?

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:21:03 2022 No.33583471
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The reason Rushia was fired... she was forbidden to tell you herself. And that's why she told me. No one will ever learn the truth. Her story... her debriefing, will endure only in your heart. Everything she did, she did for her company. She sacrificed her job and honor for her native land. She was a real hero. She was a true patriot.

Future generations will revile her; in Hololive as a dispicable traitor with no sense of honor, and Vshojo as a monster who unleashed a GFE catastrophe. She will go down in official history as a menhera. But I think she wanted you of all people to know the truth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:21:14 2022 No.33583482 thank you nazuna for telling us that their motto is a lie. there's a flip side to every coin.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:22:58 2022 No.33583572 >>33583482 At least they can collab with whoever they want without it causing a schizo meltdown rumao.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:23:44 2022 No.33583609 File: 547 KB, 1328x936, 1637660781942.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>33582996 >It's literally 1 person's word vs 8 other confirmed accounts. because vshojo talents are known for their honesty amirite

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:24:16 2022 No.33583643 >>33583572 Yeah, as migrant whores for twitchnigger.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:24:28 2022 No.33583652 >>33583390 She deserves to be cheated after she bankrupted random oji-sans and bragged to her fans

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:26:31 2022 No.33583760

>>33583341
She probably spoke without knowing the proper workings of her contract. There's a difference in flat out lying when you're fully aware of what you're allowed and able to do but still misrepresenting it - and not knowing but acting or speaking on assumptions. Nazuna is most likely the latter but you're so fucking desperate for your fix of drama that you trying to hamfist ill will and malice into either party. Take your meds.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:26:45 2022 No.33583771 >>33583609 What a piece of shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:27:50 2022 No.33583840 >>33583609 What's dishonest about this? Fuck Nux. Or did you have his cock in your mouth as you typed this?

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Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:30:42 2022 No.33584005

>>33583840
Ok then, how about this one. Lying about other companies
>Silvervale: We want to show that there is an agency which is not like Hololive or Nijisanji. You can be yourself, you can have relationship and talk about yourself and your parents. Just be yourself and not be tied down by all these expectations.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:31:06 2022 No.33584038 File: 137 KB, 1080x838, 1663626545716.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>33579234 year 2000+22 streaming on Twitch YouTube is kill as well if and once they start rolling out long ass unskippable pre-roll ads

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:32:34 2022 No.33584127 File: 14 KB, 867x117, 1660639501912.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>33584038

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:33:41 2022 No.33584192 >>33584005 There isn't a lie there though?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:33:49 2022 No.33584200 File: 1.38 MB, 1387x777, Opera Snapshot_2022-09-19_180927_www.twitch.tv.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>33579120 It was after OP's image, but Zentreya got really upset about something behind the scenes

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:34:28 2022 No.33584252 >>33584005 The Interviewer already admitted he was "paraphrasing" hololive and later nijisanji in there and that she didn't even mention either of them in their interview you disambigious little shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:35:35 2022 No.33584315 >>33584192 Last time I checked, Niji livers can have relationships, talk about themselves and their parents

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:36:05 2022 No.33584352 File: 526 KB, 1920x1080, matsurimom on stream.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>33584192 Pretending to be retarded will get you nowhere.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:36:47 2022 No.33584402 >>33584038 >Ads I enjoy whatever misery falls on mobileniggers

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:37:35 2022 No.33584451 >>33584352 >he thinks cover's actors are their real parents Pretending to be retarded will get you nowhere.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:38:29 2022 No.33584516 File: 39 KB, 600x584, 1657911959922.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>33584451 Nigga you are a falseflagger

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:39:43 2022 No.33584617 >>33581084 >why is michelangelo being a retarded woman It is truly a mystery. If only there were signs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:40:12 2022 No.33584650 File: 161 KB, 1170x658, 1644519030531.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>33581460 Holy fuck you're a faggot and an idiot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:40:24 2022 No.33584666 >>33584192 hololive members can do karaoke with their parents. twichniggers can't even seem to use google, lol. I'm not surprised you love that autistic UI.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:40:50 2022 No.33584686 >>33584617 Yeah. Anyone that works for cover is a retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:41:38 2022 No.33584735 >>33584200 I thought this dude was supposed to be a dragon?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:42:19 2022 No.33584782 >>33584666 >hololive members can do karaoke with their """"parents"""" Yeah I'm sure parents want to sing in front of strangers online. Do you even have parents?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:42:34 2022 No.33584795 >>33584735 hes a warframe now

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:42:42 2022 No.33584807 >>33584451 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7-Aujdc6JE Doxxbeats confirmed that was her real biological mother. Let me guess, doesn't count?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:42:44 2022 No.33584812 >>33581730 >Implying that it's a fandead you are responding to and not a Vshitshow shilling doing damage control Cmon Anon be smarter than this.

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:43:19 2022 No.33584849

>>33583760
>She probably spoke without knowing the proper workings of her contract
Again, I have no idea how you can say something like this and not realise how fucking awful it sounds
If I had a problem with something in my job, I'd just check it internally. They'd give me a quick, 10 minute explanation of the issue.
The fact that she has to say this stuff publicly implies massive miscommunication issues in the company.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:43:53 2022 No.33584877 >>33584735 I thought Nene was supposed to wear a Chinese dress and love dumplings?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:44:17 2022 No.33584905 >>33580359 indies have managers too, hell kson had like two of them before even joining. Rushia's new vshojo manager is right there on twitter btw: https://mobile.twitter.com/nazunamng

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:44:24 2022 No.33584908

>>33579576
>>33581611
Doesn't Vshojo have a signed agreement with Twitch? In exchange for preferential treatment, I would assume that not streaming on YouTube is part of that agreement. And if she wants, she can just stream as mikeneko on YT. what is the problem?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:44:27 2022 No.33584912 >>33579527 Are you expecting Nazuna to deal with the consequences of her actions?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:44:41 2022 No.33584926 File: 2.93 MB, 960x540, 1653081748812.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>33584735 They can all be whatever they want

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:45:52 2022 No.33584993 >>33578813 >>Nazuna got a break down stream >>Zen today start stream and break up, start banning people in chat What in the ESL are you saying here? They HAD a break down? Or they're breaking down Thursday Night Football?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:47:07 2022 No.33585062 >>33584782 You seriously said they were actors, lol Vshojo can't even tell their own parents about jobs, because they're whores.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:48:22 2022 No.33585171 >>33584993 You look ESL too.

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:48:59 2022 No.33585206

>>33584908
>she can just stream as mikeneko on YT.
The thousands of antis. And before you ask
>doesn't she get that on Nazuna
The answer is no. Most of her antis are literal underaged normalfaggots who don't actually watch vtubers. If you check the quote retweets on Nazuna, nearly all are positive.
Meanwhile, she makes a tweet on Mikeneko about her dead cat and a bunch of people tell her to kill herself and tell her that they're glad that her cat died.
The last time she did a public stream on YouTube, some Pokemon YouTuber with 100k subs made a video about her, talking about how she and her fanbase were a menace to the Pokemon community and antis blamed her for this. She had a breakdown that day over it and was apologizing to us for being unsightly in public.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:50:01 2022 No.33585285 >>33585171 >ESL can't tell what actual English looks like.

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:50:30 2022 No.33585312

>>33581437
This is a twitch partner problem more than vshojo. they have some rule about a 24 hour period before you can even upload vods off site too. If your audience isn't on twitch it's a disaster to do which is probably true for a lot of jp people.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:50:39 2022 No.33585323 >>33585062 Please don't make fun of parents, my parents are dead. They were Queen Elizabeth and Prince Phillip. Believe me because you're so willing to believe your idols.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:50:50 2022 No.33585338 >>33585285 >"What in the ESL" >English

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:50:55 2022 No.33585343 >>33584200 The fact they wasted this design on a troon fills me with rage.

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:51:45 2022 No.33585401

>>33585312
It's not even a Twitch problem anymore. They rescinded those restrictions a month ago for partners. And even then you can just not apply to be a partner. Kson streamed on Twitch for a year without applying until those restrictions were removed so she could keep doing both. Now she's a partner and still streams on both sites.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:51:47 2022 No.33585403 >>33584200 >hasn't realized not every thought in your head has to be humored NGMI

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:52:05 2022 No.33585419 >>33578813 Both of them are fragile menheras, they should get married!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:52:44 2022 No.33585465 >>33582181 >>33582474 these are over a year old retard. How is this proof for any of the current rules since nazina joined?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:53:10 2022 No.33585493 File: 707 KB, 726x878, retarded.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>33585323 >cover is all lying and they're faking relationships! >vshojo isn't lying and all 8 of them are telling the truth also Rushia is lying about vshojo

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:53:20 2022 No.33585506 >>33579350 Gura would refuse to participate in this charade anyway

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:53:32 2022 No.33585524 >>33585338 NTA but you're fucking retarded

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:54:09 2022 No.33585559 >>33585524 >NTA kek sure

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:54:33 2022 No.33585580 >>33585343 >they ... >>33585465 >nazina ...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:54:44 2022 No.33585591 >>33585285 That's why I called you an ESL. eigo jouzu

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:55:48 2022 No.33585647 >>33583572 Can they collab with a Niji or Holo?

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:57:24 2022 No.33585773

Nazuna is blaming her lower numbers on Twitch as if there are Japanese people out there wishing they could watch her but are crying because they're too retarded to make a Twitch account.

Kson lost a ton of CCV when she left Hololive, despite the fact that her graduation was genial if not awkward. Compared to Rushia's menhera shitshow.

The fact is, 80% of Holobronies support the company over the talents. And the ones that do support the talents are in her chat.

Going to YouTube isn't going to give her the numbers she thinks it will.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:58:37 2022 No.33585846 >>33585773 what do you even stand for, retard?

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 22:58:45 2022 No.33585858

>>33580025
>>33581437
>>33582028
platform exclusivity is a standard part of the twitch partnership contract (at least livestreaming has to have a 24 hour delay before uploading it to other platforms and no multi-platform streaming). I think they're getting rid of it soon but I don't think it's happened yet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:00:13 2022 No.33585964 >>33579576 The YouTube thing isn't new, but dissatisfaction with earnings? That's hilarious if true.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:00:50 2022 No.33586015 >>33585647 not anymore

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:01:13 2022 No.33586041
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>>33578813
>Nazuna got a break down stream
Holy ESL Batman
>Nazuna had a mental break down during her livestream

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:02:01 2022 No.33586115

>>33585206
>waaah anti
Who cares? not an excuse. Fubuki has still been dealing with her zhang bots you don't see her being a bitch about it, Nazuna should just toughen up, the only way to deal with trolls is to show them their shit has "0" affect on your mental.

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:02:18 2022 No.33586129

>>33585773
Nazuna gets similar numbers on Twitcast as she does on Twitch.
A shitty streaming app basically only used by the Japanese, where she just does zatsudans, nets her similar numbers to Twitch.
On top of that, back when she streamed on Mikeneko YouTube, her numbers were higher even with the shadow ban.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:02:25 2022 No.33586136 >>33579576 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvQ1_3q_d4Q All I know about this is that she is a twitch partner, and therefore cannot stream on youtube, but if I remember correctly they are changing that rule soon?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:02:38 2022 No.33586158 >>33586041 >can't understand a sentence with typos despite several other anons being able to do so ESL moment

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:02:42 2022 No.33586167 File: 1.63 MB, 1725x1013, 1637557767861.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>33585465

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:03:12 2022 No.33586206 >>33585773 >they're too retarded to make a Twitch account lol, vwhorefags seems to really believe that there are no twitch streamers in Japan.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:03:22 2022 No.33586222 >>33586136 She wasn't even a partner when Kson said that, and the rules were changed before she became a partner.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:04:14 2022 No.33586293 >>33586136 partner =/= affiliate they're changing affiliate shit but partner remains the same, you are NOT allowed to stream on youtube or facebook but you are allowed to stream on tiktok and other "non-competitors"

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:05:28 2022 No.33586386 File: 526 KB, 1120x784, 1661765966460.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>33586293

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:06:46 2022 No.33586475 >>33584877 >Menhera sudden change is the same as a branch and an appeal to chink being canned due to the corpo being banned by chink huh?

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:07:17 2022 No.33586516

>>33580371
she have reasons to think it does impact her CCV because japs don't really use twitch much, at least Vtuber fans. Also it's not like Rushia ever cared about this "freedom" crap, she never really had any serious problems with restrictions so it probably downs on her that she never be as popular as she was back in hololive.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:08:00 2022 No.33586563 >>33586158 are you retarded?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:08:18 2022 No.33586582 >>33580475 she's actually their most talented talent

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:10:22 2022 No.33586721 >>33586582 What's her talent?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:11:52 2022 No.33586829 >>33586293 Kson is a Twitch partner https://streamscharts.com/channels/ksonsouchou

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:12:02 2022 No.33586837 >>33580025 It's on the Twitch side you retard

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:13:16 2022 No.33586934

>>33586386
"twitch still limits what they're able to do"
I saw an indie on twitch talk about this. Apparently you can't do the same sort of content on youtube and twitch even after the change. Kson can be a partner and stream on both as it's english on one and japanese on the other. I think maybe that's why nazuna was getting frustrated about not being able to learn english. Or at least not making enough progress to stream in english only on one platform, japanese on the other.
That's my theory anyway - source: nowhere

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:14:27 2022 No.33587023 File: 159 KB, 1080x693, not allowed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>33586386

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:15:07 2022 No.33587073
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>>33586934
You can read the full article. It says you can't stream on both sites simultaneously unless it's on a mobile-focused site like Tiktok. https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/23/23317939/twitch-ends-partner-exclusivity-youtube-tiktok-facebook-gaming

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:15:25 2022 No.33587092 >>33585773 She use to get higher numbers on YT as Mikeneko but okay, anon the very fact that she can get higher numbers on a shitty streaming service like Twitcast should tell you everything you need to know about it Twitch and the Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:16:29 2022 No.33587167 >>33586582 That's an insult to Mousey and her fans and basically Vshojo as a whole when you say shit like that

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:17:40 2022 No.33587250 File: 17 KB, 239x200, 1657911418497.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>33587167 Call me crazy but I think that may have been the point anon. He wasn't wrong either

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:21:12 2022 No.33587529 >>33579234 Twitch fucking sucks. I knew Vshojo was forcing her to be there. It is unironically damaging her growth. Most nips are on youtube.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:22:12 2022 No.33587601 >Don't read the contract or read but don't understand it >Don't ask clarifications or questions before signing >Cries on social media about the contract instead of asking her employer about it Why are women like this? Why are they so fucking retarded?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:22:15 2022 No.33587605 >>33578813 I did not expect Nazuna to talk about browsing 4chan on stream. You can no longer deny a lot of girls are /here/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:23:32 2022 No.33587707 >>33587601 You're saying that as if she has a choice. She is effectively banned from all JP companies due to NDA breaking. Desperation kicks in

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:23:39 2022 No.33587713 >>33586721 Streaming, singing, being cute that's already more than most Western whores.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:25:39 2022 No.33587846 >>33581106 sounds pretty based

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:26:59 2022 No.33587952 >>33587529 Vshojos are human billboards for twitch. No wonder they force her to make streams on twitch the main focus of activities. It is wrong to say that there are few nip twitch listeners because there are many famous twitch streamers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:30:03 2022 No.33588174 >>33587601 Isn't it obvious because she broke NDA at last place of employment? but Vshojo believed the nonsense that she was fired because she had a boyfriend.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:32:59 2022 No.33588371 >>33587605 Nyanners and Veibae used to post here when they were going to be live or their schedules.

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:33:47 2022 No.33588433
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IF she wants more money, she just needs to hire a decent editor and upload more than once a week on this dead ass channel.
Post the whole damn debut stream and rake in the ad revenue already.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:39:41 2022 No.33588872 >>33584252 Sure after people started calling Silver out over her hot takes and wasn't that the final version anyway? The one where they've just added niji so hololive is not singled out but the message is the same.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:48:00 2022 No.33589393 >>33585343 he's a heterosexual male, likely with a girlfriend too.

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:50:03 2022 No.33589520
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>Hololive is bad, my manager abuses me
wtf lying bitch
>I can't stream on Youtube for an unspecified reason
Holy shit VShojo is so bad I knew it all along talent freedom vwhorejo kekson

Summary of this thread for those of you just tuning in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:54:02 2022 No.33589802 >>33581460 Not even the blindest fancuck is this retarded Vshitjoniggers should stop talking anything related to their JP branch

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:55:32 2022 No.33589895 >>33589520 Thanks, I needed that

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:56:46 2022 No.33589973 Rushia does nothing but make bad decisions. It's hard to care when she's the one solely responsible for her own misery.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 23:59:06 2022 No.33590152 >>33587952 not Vtubers though, she shares the same audience with holo JP for obvious reasons so the platform would filter a lot of people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:00:54 2022 No.33590311 >>33587952 >twitch listeners Viewers.

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:04:41 2022 No.33590656

I'm not defending vshojo or anything, but people, this is a literal nothing burger. You all hung up on a second-hand translation of a vaguepost as if it was some noble cause. You know nothing about their contracts and you don't even know what she said exactly

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:05:54 2022 No.33590755 >>33589520 The irony of posting this when you yourself just believe in the inverse of both statements

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:08:51 2022 No.33590997

>>33582918
>Pretty much calling Nazuna a liar
I wouldn't call Nazuna a lair, but I would call you an idiot.
>When people post things straight from Nazuna's mouth
How the fuck is a translation "straight from the mouth"? This is literally the opposite of that

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:16:47 2022 No.33591759 >>33590656 Vshitshow is a black company and actively suppressing Nazuna's streaming activity. They are destroying her career, her mental health, and her monetary status by disallowing her fandeads from watching her on their home platform.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:17:48 2022 No.33591874 >>33591759 Oh hey it's marineschizo playing both sides again

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:25:06 2022 No.33592713 >>33580118 Women.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:26:15 2022 No.33592815 >>33582556 >defend vshojo by shitting on one of its members rumao

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:41:57 2022 No.33594357 >>33592815 Vshojo vs. VshojoJP

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:42:18 2022 No.33594403 >>33591759 nice extrapolating bro you give me the vibe of those schizos who thought they got themselves a gf because a girl was nice to them once

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:43:09 2022 No.33594508 >>33590656 >"I'm not defending" >defends

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:43:19 2022 No.33594520 >>33594357 >Vshojo vs. VshojoJP No. That's only up in a few keyschizos heads.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:44:25 2022 No.33594644 >>33594520 It's all out war.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:45:26 2022 No.33594759 >>33594403 They hired her just to kill her and collect the life insurance!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:45:57 2022 No.33594803 >>33594508 Only if you consider that statement as taking a side. Which I don't. I don't give a fuck about vshojo as a company. It just sounds ridiculous how people are stretching that thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:46:59 2022 No.33594890 >>33594644 I pity Nazuna if she has fans like that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:48:22 2022 No.33595064 >>33594890 Her fans will flood the VShojo offices with blood.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:50:09 2022 No.33595214 >>33586829 Then this only proves it has nothing to do with Twitch, it's purely Vshojo's contract.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:52:33 2022 No.33595437 >>33595064 sure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUHk2RSMCS8

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:52:59 2022 No.33595477 >>33595214 Consider that Vshojos founder worked for and still has strong ties to Twitch, it makes sense that they'd try to keep their talent there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:53:52 2022 No.33595549 >>33584402 hahaha I want to say something but then I realize that this really sucks. Twitch keeps throwing these 30seconds ads on my face and all I can do is accept like a bitch while I lose content.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:54:51 2022 No.33595635 >>33595437 I didn't say whose blood.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:55:20 2022 No.33595677 Nazuna should stop being selfish and lying about Vshojo. This will damage the image of the company and the other girls

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:55:42 2022 No.33595706 >>33581106 Big if true

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:57:30 2022 No.33595849 >>33578813 >Nazuna got a break down stream Is it that time of the year already?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 00:59:49 2022 No.33596045 >>33595849 >time of the year >time of the month >time of the week >time of the day Eternal breakdowns.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:02:01 2022 No.33596226 >>33580118 Mori spent a thousand dollars on a hat

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:02:36 2022 No.33596271 >>33579576 >some dissatisfaction with her earnings No shit, she was always in sponsorships and merch promos. Being reduced to relying on donations is a world of difference.

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:03:02 2022 No.33596307

>>33588433
Absolutely the truth. Vtubers are too used to only be live streamers and forgets that this is just the trend that Nijisanji created, but not the only way to make content. An indie called Chibidoki streames on twitch but uploads edited videos on her youtube channel very frequently, every video with at least 50k+ views.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:03:22 2022 No.33596340 >>33595849 >year Her menhera twitter has a new post every week where she goes on about how to ruin lives

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:06:34 2022 No.33596613 What I don't understand about the Naz situation is that its not like she can't stream on YouTube, she still has her roommate that already has 2D and debuted on YouTube as well; so why can't she just be on YouTube as Michael and Twitch as Naz

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:08:04 2022 No.33596744

>>33595677
I'm a 100% vshojo fag, and if she really thinks like that and wanted to say that, I wouldn't mind.
If the company was being shit I would be the first one to throw it under the bus. The girls come first. But the problem is, she didn't really say shit. It's only schizos extrapolating on a vaguepost.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:08:26 2022 No.33596788 >>33595477 Exactly, which is why schizos blaming this on Twitch or even Cover is purely bullshit

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:12:09 2022 No.33597172 >>33579234 This honestly, Kson fucked her over with this bullshit

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:12:54 2022 No.33597235 >>33596788 It's just weird. Mouse, Nyan, and Kson stream on YouTube every now and then. Hell, there was a few months where Nyan had more hours on YouTube than she did twitch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:13:49 2022 No.33597308 >>33596613 Her antis ignore Nazuna but they go after Mike iirc

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:14:37 2022 No.33597395 >>33597308 They literally don't know Nazuna exists Most of them only spaz out when Mike appears in their Twitter feeds

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:16:13 2022 No.33597533

>>33596613
It probably boils down to the model, she likes Nazuna's model better or maybe she doesn't want to be seen as having to owe whoever made the model for her. Actually she never streamed all that much as Mike even before she joined Vshojo, which kind of adds to that theory. But given her schizo behavior who even knows what goes on in her mind.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:17:13 2022 No.33597615 >>33578813 >nazuna broke down on stream So she had a normal stream?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:17:38 2022 No.33597650 >>33596613 Either she's getting cockblocked by something Cover-related, or there is literally nothing stopping her and she's being a menhera. Most likely the latter. Anyway Ironmouse is planning a Youtube stream this week.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:18:48 2022 No.33597743 >>33579234 Its not Vshojo contract, its Cover who binds her still.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:22:42 2022 No.33598066 Ok. So if you really believe this to be the case, then surely you could give a reason as to why nazuna would be the only vshojo member to have YouTube streaming prohibited in her contract?

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:22:59 2022 No.33598092

>>33597235
I can't find when Nyannars had her last stream on Youtube, but for Mouse it was the 700k stream 3 months ago. It could be something for new talents. The other thing is it might have to do with the model as well. Kson's model was made by her with her own money before she joined Vshojo, so she owns the model. I'm not sure about Nazuna but iirc her model was funded by Vshojo?

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:23:44 2022 No.33598161

>>33587605
Just from certain break moona and ollie did tells how many chuubas browses this site, the denial some people have is retarded
Unfortunately good ammount of them have a mental of glass despite the whole 4chun is le bad normies from kikebook and reddit spreads, in a way their breakdown is their own fault

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:24:01 2022 No.33598192 >>33579576 >shes blocked from streaming on youtube by contract and expressed some dissatisfaction with her earnings YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:24:50 2022 No.33598256 >>33598092 Because Nyan would stream on her alt to small audiences. It's not comparable at all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:25:51 2022 No.33598341 >>33598192 >dissatisfaction with her earnings Sounds like a skill issue.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:26:04 2022 No.33598355 File: 197 KB, 534x663, WHATS.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>33598256 >streaming on youtube is not at all comparable to streaming on youtube

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:27:44 2022 No.33598526 >>33598355 Streaming to 2~300 people on a YouTube alt that is unlisted by default and only given out by discord message is different than a completely publicly announced stream, yes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:27:44 2022 No.33598524 >>33598192 If she’s dissatisfied with her earnings she should have kson come on her stream and shill >twitch prime >twitch prime >twitch prime that always works

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:28:14 2022 No.33598581 Remember when she was a tragic heroine until a month ago?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:29:04 2022 No.33598667 >>33598581 Before that, but yeah. it just became extremely obvious that she shot herself in the foot

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:29:29 2022 No.33598697 >>33578813 >tiananmen strat lol laugh at kson

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:29:39 2022 No.33598717

>>33598256
lol how would that even work? How do you imagine a contract forbidding her to stream on youtube but allowing it as long as she does it on an alt with small numbers? Why would they even include something like that in it?
also, you people are forgetting the girls were making alt accounts left and right on a whim on random platforms. Not mentioning streaming all the time on their bf accounts. Their contracts clearly don't regulate who has which accounts and where do they stream

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:29:46 2022 No.33598727 >>33598524 kson has no viewers herself

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:30:36 2022 No.33598790 talent freedom is just something they say to you because they don't have anything else to sell their shit group.

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:31:34 2022 No.33598873

>>33598066
Isn't Nazuna the first member to be signed on without a special contract?
The English side is grandfathered in to the old contract and Kson is a special case.
Unless Kson negotiated Nazuna's contract for her, she probably just signed whatever paper they threw in front of her.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:31:37 2022 No.33598878 >>33598581 That was before she opened her mouth to whine, sometimes people like her rip the mask off themselves instead of playing the part.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:33:01 2022 No.33598990 >>33598727 Well then maybe veibae or someone else. she needs someone to do it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbtmnFt97SI

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:33:49 2022 No.33599040 >>33598873 >she probably just signed whatever paper they threw in front of her cool, would be big if only she said anything about it

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:35:37 2022 No.33599196 Vshojo represents the talent, not the other way around.

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:35:37 2022 No.33599197

>>33598066
Basically she feels like she needs to be on Twitch with all the other VShojo girls but feels inadequate because she is the only one that doesn't speak English. She was also really depressed that there weren't that many English comments in her chat recently (no shit she streams at 5am). "I can't stream on Youtube" was basically an off-hand comment she made at the start of the stream then it was hours of sadposting about not speaking English.

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:36:04 2022 No.33599244

>>33579120
She can't handle negative criticism. Because she's a real life, overweight whale. Even minus the weight, it's a woman thing, she's been spoiled by her FANBASE. And now that people finally know about her, they dislike her and thus current year

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:39:24 2022 No.33599490 T A L E N T F R E E D O M >vshojo isn't even corpo >its more like tech support >talent can do whatever they want LMAO

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:40:38 2022 No.33599583 Keep rubbing it in I'm sure it won't backfire when its all revealed its just Nazuna being retarded and not reading the rules.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:44:44 2022 No.33599908 >>33579778 Anglo fatigue.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 01:50:02 2022 No.33600381 >>33579576 >>33579527 So that's why the lack of content for Nazuna. I don't do twitch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 02:45:22 2022 No.33605171 >>33579234 SAY IT WITH ME: TALENT FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 02:46:59 2022 No.33605296 >>33579685 >I can't fathom what she's wasting the money at. She spends the money she should be spending on therapists ( i know Japan doesnt have any but still) on lawyers instead to chase after her antis...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 02:55:33 2022 No.33605949 >>33579234 BUT MUH TALENT FREEEEEEEDOM!!!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 02:56:24 2022 No.33606019 >>33578813 Should've stayed as MiguelGato and farmed her gachikoi Hope she starts blaming kson and TALENT FREEDOM for her situation

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 02:57:29 2022 No.33606100 >>33605171 *cover not vshojo you know the company she broke her NDA from that got her fired due to her own stupidity.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 02:59:51 2022 No.33606246 >>33579234 If this bitch wants to stream on youtube she shouldn't sign the contract, should've just stick with her mikeneko channel, fucking greed bitch

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 03:01:28 2022 No.33606365 >morning in Jakarta >thread repeatedly bumped with "talent freedom"

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 03:01:56 2022 No.33606401 Dw guys they'll just collab with hololive again

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 03:02:49 2022 No.33606466 >>33579120 Is hard to be a guy with text speech, ppl just dox this fat fuck

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 03:04:37 2022 No.33606581 >>33606100 Eigo jouzu, Nguyen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 03:06:08 2022 No.33606690 A lot of people on this board should practice English lesson freedom.

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 03:08:48 2022 No.33606905
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Have any of you even read on twitch contracts?

Until recently, you weren't allowed to stream on youtube if you were a twitch partner. Some people did, others got banned from twitch. It was all pretty random. Many big creators got fed up though and just left Twitch.

Keep in mind, this is only the average Twitch partner contract, many big streamers have a custom made contract with a bigger slice of the subs but absolutely not allowed to stream elsewhere. They get paid extra money for not leaving Twitch too. The fine points are negotiated in secret and not public.

Nazuma most likely got one of these, negotiated by her vshojo managers. Now if she streams on YT it could be a breach of contract with Twitch. But Twitch fanboys are retarded cock suckers are retarded so...

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 03:11:18 2022 No.33607086

>>33606905
>Twitch notes that if you are able to view your Partner Agreement on your dashboard and have not received any notice of additional agreements from the company, then the change applies to you.

This part is important. The freedom to stream on youtube is only for some, others are screwed.
Kson already had a twitch channel before vshojo so she most likely fixed her twitch contract herself, that's why there is no issue.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 03:16:55 2022 No.33607540 >>33599244 >she

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 03:18:07 2022 No.33607643

>>33606905
Dumb fucking baiting bitches
If you watched the nazuna stream you would know she said she can't stream on youtube BUT SHE WANTED TO DEBUT THERE
She wasnt partnered until 2 weeks ago so no twitch restriction
Even /るみな/ with the hateboner they have for vshojo came to the conclusion that it's most likely because she already has a monetized youtube account where she streams(mikeneko)
Or a noncompete clause from cover

Anonymous Tue Sep 20 03:32:35 2022 No.33608682

>>33580206
>maybe kson is still on youtube because she had already established herself on youtube
Or she waited til any relevant non-compete or similar clauses expired, since she went a year as an indie. If Yabneko is still bound by anything of the sort, it could still be in effect.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 20 03:42:04 2022 No.33609304 >>33583436 https://mega.nz/file/q5kGgS4S#ehX1YA-HztRJVIwLK5TYYaLcEMSAHhG3q-yfmdoN9Ug

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