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>>33316568

>> No.33324229

/#/ is declining

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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.33324263

>>33324158
>By debuting Starsen first theyve ensured that theyre doomed once en3 debuts.
Starsen or what?

>> No.33324282

Gura

>> No.33324300

>>33324263
I think he had a stroke anon.

>> No.33324313

>>33324244
why do we pretend nijiEN is popular again?

>> No.33324340

>>33324313
>we

>> No.33324350
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>> No.33324360

>>33324244
holoEN is in freefall holy shit

>> No.33324407

>>33324282
I HAVE TO SEETHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.33324410

>>33324263
he probably means EN3 is fucked, with mori circling around the newcomers with all those fucking homo collab

>> No.33324417

>>33324340
If there's one thing the previous 2 threads have taught me it's that nijiniggers like >>33324360 posting that shit on repeat actually convinces the thread that it's true so yes WE

>> No.33324419

>>33324244
I think Nijisis are just frustrated savior fags

>> No.33324428

>>33324263
>By debuting Tempus before EN3, they've ensured that all the tourists and interest will get immediately sapped from them once EN3 drops.
>Had they dropped EN3 first, then Tempus, they'd probably be more stable and not be at risk of getting slammed by a new HoloEN gen.

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> Yagoo gave Subaru a massage chair
lmao
Also what is this anime? any good?

>> No.33324437

>>33324282
The only holo who's living rent free in all nijinnigers, shitposters, antis, /jp/ since 2020.

>> No.33324449

sunday predictions:
kuzuha - 70-80k
risu - 60-65k
gura - 55k ceiling

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EN3 bringing a new cute and funny queen will allow gura to happily become our Ayame.

>> No.33324470

imagine, en3 comes out and then susan drops the lastest december special just as they are finding their feet

>> No.33324482

>muh super spatial 360 spacial audio
>no matter how much I spin I can't mute Kiara
pointless gimmick

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kek they are desperate

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>>33324456

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>>33324282

>> No.33324520

>>33324263
>>33324417

>Allout war lmao

>> No.33324521

>>33324410
EN3 would be doomed. this is why cover won't risk another EN gen. the ENbox has already shrunk down to almost nothing and adding 5 new girls into the mix would stretch it even thinner than it is today.

>> No.33324534

>>33324433
the anime is ok, I think the ending it's kinda weak but is a fun ride

>> No.33324533

>>33324244
>VSPO above Niji
VSPO VSPO VSPO VSPO

>> No.33324541

>>33324263
>>33324410
He was replying to me but I dunno what he meant. My point was that Tempus has significantly altered the holoEN dynamic and it will affect both how EN3 behave and what kind of people audition for holoEN in the future, but the anon seems to be going on a derail about EN3 killing Tempus CCV when it had nothing to do with what I wrote.

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>>33324282
for me it's booba gura

>> No.33324555

>>33324470
If that actually happens the entire fucking branch is cursed. They'll end up with 1k ccv and the same VODs lmao.

>> No.33324577

>>33324433
Eden of the East is godly anime, the cream of the crop of noitaminA slot back in the day.

>> No.33324584

>>33324521
remember bros if you don't actually call him out the thread will actually believe him

>> No.33324591

>>33324470
OMEGAcull for new channels with high injection of subs relative to content output?

>> No.33324596

>>33324244
Vspo has truly inclined this year.
How are they destroying Nijisanji even with all those gaming events?

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>>33324547
my brother in christ

>> No.33324675

>>33324410
Implying they cant just say: "no thanks", this is not japan anon, you dont have to accept everything your "senpai" says

>> No.33324677

>>33323876
>Botan doesn't stream for an entire week and nobody cares, but Gura doesn't stream for four days and she's EN Ayame, oh I see how it is
Anon, Botan has 169 streams in 2022, Gura has 106.
Botan could take from today to November 23 off, Gura could stream every day between now and then and she wouldn't catch up.

Bad example there, stick to Ayame and Shion

>> No.33324686

>>33324410
I still has some hope for EN3 cuz i think they've been selected before StarEN. But EN4 forward looks fucking grim. There'll be no sense of branch identity, like i don't give much much shit about whether the new girls will collab with Star or not until they start attracting more of those kind of audience that demand my oshi to.

>> No.33324688

>>33324521
sister stop, tend the asshole of KING, its still sore after the pegging of Moona today instead of spewing shit

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https://youtu.be/yj3NqUzMsnY

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You know I actually find it hilarious that the nijinigger deflection to Gura actually managed to distract the thread from the fact that Moona beat the entirity of nijisanji with their big hitter today

>> No.33324719

Imagine Gura using that Rust finale as final breakthrough she needs to start interacting with JP holos from her own volition and stop ghosting them, imagine she actually started on getting back into holobox, learning from her senpais and doing idol content

>> No.33324732

>>33324677
so how many streams do ayame and shion have?

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> Totally by accident guys, I swear

>> No.33324763

>>33324719
>imagine
>if

>> No.33324766

>>33324699
FUCKING MOONA?!

>> No.33324785

>>33324541
What im saying is that EN3 wont suffer that dynamic since assuming that they were supposed to debut first the people that they got those roles wont have the be ok to collab with males in their contract which will likely be enforced in EN4.
On another note its funny seeing magni be the target of not only unicorns but now some kpop stans due to his collab lol.

>> No.33324790

> Niji is not competing anymore
> Nijifags shitposting same baits
> Noone biting
> Most don't care about Holo vs Holo
# thread is boring now

>> No.33324791

>>33324719
Even the ENs who can speak moon don't really interact with JP often.

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I think Gura will receive similar numbers to Aqua's 3d live and get 90k+ viewers. May Vox cum all over my face if I'm wrong.

>> No.33324802

>>33324741
with me

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>>33324699
for posterity

>> No.33324814

>>33324693
WTF, why is clussy there?

>> No.33324822

>>33324732
>so how many streams do ayame and shion have?
Ayame: 20, Shion: 39

>> No.33324838

>>33324741
BOYFRIEND

>> No.33324841

>>33324693
>Ad video paid for Bushiroad
>Let the expert use his costum NePol deck.
Man, Bushiroad is really into Hololive

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>> No.33324879

>>33324675
>>33324686
i really hope fauna, irys and kiara become the pre-debut friends while mori is busy doing her 10000 projects so they can steer them towards the holo path.
and when holoEN start the 3D events produced by cover i will be much more relaxed, no way they throw away the box for some cheap collabs at that point

>> No.33324882

>>33324791
EN honestly shouldn't even be considered part of Hololive these days. ID at least has a profound closeness with the main branch, as you could see today with Moona. EN has what? a couple of collabs between Gura and Shion and some minor things with Suisei and Mori.

>> No.33324886

>>33324244
People kept saying VSPO is some unknown group but the reality is that their management is way better at developing the talents compared to Nijisanji.
I think Nijisanji has to spend more on training just like Hololive if they want to improve the quality of their streamers.

>> No.33324894

>>33324699
>>33324790
>Brining up Nijisanji all of a sudden
HOLY FUCKING RENT FREE.
Hololive has a toxic community that attacks each other and you blame nijisanji when its clearly holofags that hate other holofags.

>> No.33324897

>>33324867
Lamy my beloved please stop smoking is not good for your health

>> No.33324902

>>33324822
Gura makes a hundred streams this year and she's En ayame, Shion streams 39 times this year and nobody cares, oh I see how it is

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>>33324894
now say that without crying

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>>33324867
Towa is a bad influence...

>> No.33324963

>>33324882
>Hololive toxicity
And yet theyre gonna blame nijifans for it somehow.
Face it your closed garden approach has made your fanbase toxic which is causing hololives recline.

>> No.33324964

>>33324699
Even if the thread discussion veers away from Moona's regicide, they'll still feel the burn.

>> No.33324965

>>33324902
In JP, for every Shion there are two holos who stream more than anyone in EN.

>> No.33324973

>>33324741
I mean at the end of the day they are cheap hotels lol

>> No.33324981

>>33324791
>IRyS
Goes out on dinners with them
>Mori
Somewhat frequent interactions
>KIara
AME AME AME AME AME AME AME AME
>Sana
Is in afterlife streaming Genshin
>Ina

>> No.33324992

>>33324894
>Brining up Hololive all of a sudden
HOLY FUCKING RENT FREE.
Nijisanji has a toxic community that attacks each other and you blame hololive when its clearly nijifags that hate other nijifags.

>> No.33325006

>>33324533
Vspo not stonewalling Hololive in collabs proved to be successful. I really don't understand why Nijisanji has block Hololive when Chinese people don't matter anymore.

>> No.33325015

>>33324963
kuzuha's big tournament got reamed by moona

>> No.33325017

>>33324879
>no way they throw away the box for some cheap collabs at that point
Half of holoEN kinda did already? It's not as radical of a thought as it would've been pre-Tempus.

>> No.33325048

Hahaha shark got mogged by moona and now ensharts are coping

>> No.33325056

>>33324981
>Sana
>Is in afterlife streaming Genshin
I will probably never get over the total disappointment she was, what is she doing nowadays?

>> No.33325060

>>33324719
Tbf it kinda feels like the Rust finale or her concert appearances did give her a push to start learning japanese more. I mean she signed up for her own dedicated course.

>> No.33325068

>>33324882
Yeah hololive production's intellectual property shouldn't be considered part of hololive

>> No.33325070

>>33324879
Cover HQ just need to have a little talk with EN management

>> No.33325075

>>33324699
VSPO is about to destroy Nijisanji in median for this month too.

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Already her second most viewed stream.

>> No.33325084

>>33325006
because their chink overlords is the only thing keeping them in the game right now, you saw how badly one yo mama joke burnt them

>> No.33325088

>>33317235
Holy shit that's a lot of arts

>> No.33325089

>>33324965
There are also 35 JPS AND 10 ENS, you fucking retard. What, do you want them to accelerate like NijiEN? Lot of good that did since Luxiem.

>> No.33325111

>>33325006
Pretty sure that the block is coming from the hololive side.

>> No.33325115

>>33324488
the nijibeggars have been gathering in that subreddit to shill their pathetic livers, even the nijifag mod

>> No.33325130

>>33324433
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtCRZK7kBIs
>Gifting his idol box of an anime with a bunch of naked neets being sent oversea and a dick-cutting cake
What's his game?

>> No.33325153

>>33325048
>Hahaha Shark's 3D live that didn't even happen yet got mogged by Moons hahahaha

>> No.33325159

All I want for EN3 and moving forward is that the viewers reward good entertaining content, whether that be SOVL, or relatable, or funny, or skilled, or innovative, or comfortable. That's what turns clip watchers into event watchers, event watchers to stream watchers and up the ladder. I won't say the EN market has shrunk because there's a seasonality to CCV numbers but it's also not going to grow unless more chuubas pick themselves out of their slumps and get some help to inject a mindful approach to their streaming and content creation

>> No.33325167

>>33325089
Accelerate allowed NijiEN to build a massive box. Luxiem can easily draw in 65k+ people to collabs.

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>>33325111
Everyone thought the block was on HoloEN side for a while since Myth was quite isolationist during their first year.
But once Myth started doing vshojo, indie and 3DPD collabs(TT), people started to notice that they were avoiding NijiEN, despite Pomu and Kiara being on good terms.
I'm gonna try and build up some form of a timeline for the Holo-Niji related stuff that's relevant to this collab block. Mainly with respect to Pomu and Kiara, since those two are the only Holo-Niji EN combo who have expressed interest in a collab.

1. Ollie collabs with Gundou from NijiJP on 28th July 2021 (https://youtu.be/Ghzt6N1WB14).). This was around 2 months after NijiEN debuted.
2. One day before this collab, Pomu and Kiara had their first of many on-stream (chat only) interactions (https://youtu.be/ZRb4HsiQXc8?t=6497).).
3. 3 months later, in October 2021, Kiara reported that her collab request for Pomu had been rejected : https://youtu.be/eMQF7VPADI8
She didn't specify who did the rejecting. Considering that she had been quite candid about shitting on HoloEN management at the time, but avoided blaming any party in this instance, it was pretty obvious to guess that the block came from NijiEN side.
4. About a month later (late November), it was revealed that Lazulight was attending a singing event held by Bilibili, so this may have had something to do with it : https://old.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/r3koxh/half_of_2434_international_will_be_attending_sing/
5. Around the same time of the above reveal, Selen said that she finally was allowed to collab with Ollie but that was postponed and then cancelled, with nothing else coming of it (https://youtu.be/qH_lYfNNw78).). Speculation is that Selen's manager got permission from Cover's side for the collab and so Selen thought it was fine to announce it on stream (since once Cover's side was clear, obviously she assumed NijiEN would be fine with it). But the Lazulight Bilibili announcement may have caused NijiEN higher ups to veto it so that Lazulight could still attend the event.
6. December-January : Luxiem debuts and gains a humongous audience from China, inclining the entire branch and becoming the most successful NijiEN wave to date.
> Pomu - Kiara interactions - both on-stream(YT chat) and off-stream(twitter) - are still happening in the middle of all this btw.
7. March 5, 2022 : NijiEN discord leak. Irreparable damage to NijiEN perception in the eyes of hololive fans - specifically Fulgur. Damage is far more to NijiEN fans' reputations thanks to their reaction, but the livers' behavior was also frowned upon since they were outwardly friendly towards Holo. Pomu didn't have any major involvement, so her reputation is still relatively clear.
8. May 1, 2022 : Luxiem officially get Bilibili channels (https://twitter.com/nijisanji_world/status/1520712132718964736).).
9. July 13, 2022 : Pomu Birthday stream, when starting to read pre-recorded messages, reveals that there was "one more" but asks her fans to pretend that she read it on stream. Highly likely that this was Kiara's birthday message, but Pomu explicitly avoids confirming it despite freely being able to namedrop Kiara in prior streams (https://youtu.be/zkAecWb_yTs?t=10401).).
10. July 21, 2022 : Kiara SC reading stream, SC references Pomu collab. Kiara reveals that she had been hopeful for a while, but looking at "recent developments", it felt like it was never gonna happen (https://youtu.be/qEPw2vxjTaw?t=15873).).
11. Aug 06, 2022 : Pomu sends the contents of her bag for Kiara's bag reveal stream (https://youtu.be/wtRj5RGlMHA?t=6371).). Indicating that Hololive management has no problem with Kiara involving Pomu in her streams.
12. Pic related is the latest clue we have, where the post discussing the aforementioned incident was deleted from the Nijisanji subreddit with no explanation, but was not deleted from the Hololive subreddit, which explicitly has a Rule against "advertising VTubers outside of Hololive". Even the Hololive mods commented on that post, telling people to chill, but did not lock the thread, delete the post or prevent discussion.

At this point only Nijiniggers think the block is on Hololive side, and they have to willingly ignore every piece of evidence that points to the block being from NijiEN side. Very likely due to a large part of their audience now being from China.

>> No.33325190

>>33325089
They should have accelerated a bit more, but not like NijiEN.

JP had 20 holos in 1 year. You cannot put the EN release schedule for what was a booming developing market to "once a fucking year". It's how they ended up losing so many viewers to niche alternatives.

>> No.33325195

>>33325111
as a nijifag I can confirm the block is coming from niji management

>> No.33325208

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGtM6rTOa2I

Two things I realised watching this video:
1) Council brought a lot of Korean fans to Hololive, especially Bae and Kronii
2) Kiara's route to relevancy is through pandering to Korean viewers, genuinely surprised how many Kiara fans are there in Korea

>> No.33325234

Why people think that managers are going to force the new girls to collab with Tempus I don't understand.

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>>33325167
sorry, what was that?

>> No.33325241

>>33325159
EN streaming market as a whole shrunk anon. Cover should honestly focus on regional debuts.

>> No.33325251

>>33325006
VSPO girls are quite smart about it. They get to enjoy the fanbases of Holo and Niji. It's just weird how they are now above Nijisanji.

>> No.33325256

>>33325153
she doesn't stand a chance of beating moona. gura's birthday 3D live only hit 60k and she has reclined since then.

>> No.33325262

>>33324902
That's more like it. Here are the streamers that are in the same ballpark of streams that Gura has right now

>20 streams: Ayame
>21 streams: AZKi
>39 streams: Shion
>43 streams: Aqua
>59 streams: Marine
>88 streams: Suisei
>91 streams: Mel
>101 streams: Risu
>103 streams: Gura
>106 streams: Kanata
>106 streams: IRyS
>106 streams: Kronii
>108 streams: Ina

>> No.33325282

>>33325111
Most holofans assumed that the collab ban was from HoloEN side for a long time, because Myth was quite isolationist during their first year.
But once Myth started doing vshojo, indie and 3DPD collabs(TT), people slowly started to notice that they were avoiding NijiEN, despite a lot of the talents (Pomu and Kiara especially) being on good terms.

1. Ollie collabs with Gundou from NijiJP on 28th July 2021 (https://youtu.be/Ghzt6N1WB14).). This was around 2 months after NijiEN debuted.
2. One day before this collab, Pomu and Kiara have their first of many on-stream (chat only) interactions (https://youtu.be/ZRb4HsiQXc8?t=6497).).
3. 3 months later - on October 25, 2021 - Kiara reports that her collab request for Pomu has been rejected (https://youtu.be/eMQF7VPADI8).).
She did not specify who did the rejecting. Considering that she had been quite candid about shitting on HoloEN management at the time, but avoided blaming any party in this instance, it indicated that the block may not have been from HoloEN management. But since there was no confirmation and Myth had precedence in isolationism, most casual fans simply assumed that the block was from HoloEN.
4. On Nov 23, Selen reveals on stream that she finally was allowed to collab with "the zombie" soon, which most people naturally assumed to be Ollie (https://youtu.be/K9Z6N3p-5XU?t=20813, https://youtu.be/qH_lYfNNw78).).
5. 3 days later, on Nov 26, Selen announces that the collab was cancelled (https://youtu.be/tfIGSTTuauI?t=26323).). Summary : "In the end, it had to be cancelled. Both of us were looking forward to it. I can't say too much about it, we both tried their best to make it happen. But the decision was out of both me and my collab partner's hands."
> In both of these instances, Selen did not namedrop Ollie even once.
6. The VERY NEXT DAY (Nov 27), Overidea + Bilibili announce a VTuber singing festival that includes Lazulight as guests (https://old.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/r3koxh/half_of_2434_international_will_be_attending_sing/, https://twitter.com/OverideaHQ/status/1464532414512828421).).
> Speculation is that Selen's manager got permission from Cover's side for the collab and so Selen thought it was fine to announce it on stream (since once Cover's side was clear, obviously she assumed NijiEN would be fine with it). But the Lazulight Bilibili announcement may have caused NijiEN higher ups to veto it so that Lazulight could still attend the event.
7. Event itself happens 1 day later (Nov 28), streamed on both Youtube and Bilibili. Lazulight timestamp : https://youtu.be/Md2HAlsr3_Y?t=12947.. Side note : 3 chuubas (including Hana) from NijiID also participated in this.
8. December-January : Luxiem debuts and gains a humongous audience from China, inclining the entire branch and becoming the most successful NijiEN wave to date.
> Pomu - Kiara interactions - both on-stream(YT chat) and off-stream(twitter) - are still happening in the middle of all this.
9. March 5, 2022 : NijiEN discord leak. Irreparable damage to NijiEN perception in the eyes of hololive fans - specifically Fulgur. Damage is far more to NijiEN fans' reputations thanks to their reaction, but the livers' behavior was also frowned upon since they were outwardly friendly towards Holo. Pomu didn't have any major involvement, so her reputation is still relatively clear.
10. May 1, 2022 : Luxiem officially get Bilibili channels (https://twitter.com/nijisanji_world/status/1520712132718964736).).
11. July 13, 2022 : Pomu Birthday stream, when starting to read pre-recorded messages, reveals that there was "one more" but asks her fans to pretend that she read it on stream. Highly likely that this was Kiara's birthday message, but Pomu explicitly avoids confirming it despite freely being able to namedrop Kiara in prior streams (https://youtu.be/zkAecWb_yTs?t=10401).).
12. July 21, 2022 : Kiara SC reading stream, SC references Pomu collab. Kiara reveals that she had been hopeful for a while, but looking at "recent developments", it felt like it was never gonna happen (https://youtu.be/qEPw2vxjTaw?t=15873).).
13. Aug 06, 2022 : Pomu sends the contents of her bag for Kiara's bag reveal stream (https://youtu.be/wtRj5RGlMHA?t=6371).). Indicating that Hololive management has no problem with Kiara involving Pomu in her streams.
14. The post discussing the aforementioned incident was deleted from the Nijisanji subreddit with no explanation, but was not deleted from the Hololive subreddit, which explicitly has a Rule against "advertising VTubers outside of Hololive" (https://i.imgur.com/h72dDoO.png).). Even the Hololive mods commented on that post, telling people to chill, but did not lock the thread, delete the post or otherwise prevent discussion in any way.

All evidence we've seen indicates that the collab ban is from NijiEN side.
And very likely due to NijiEN's appeasement of China.

>> No.33325288

>>33325256
>60k
>It's not 2020
>23k
Anything else?

>> No.33325292

>>33325236
>7k is bad now

>> No.33325301

>>33325079
cull soon

>> No.33325309

>>33325111
no it's not

>> No.33325314

>>33325089
Yes, that's the point. If Gura doesn't stream, it's effectively the same as if 3 JPs didn't stream. EN is a smaller branch and they can't afford to ever be inactive, every single talent counts.

>> No.33325320

>>33325292
its super bad for them

>> No.33325323

>>33325292
It's not 65k, where's your 65k?

>> No.33325332

>>33324879
They could be another Bae for all i care. I just wish that EN management let Gura stream in her usual time instead of forcing her to move it for someone she'll never interact with anyway. Fucking hell a Hololive talent delay their stream for a HoloStar? It's like saying the two branches are one. It makes the one who don't want anything to do with other side seem like an asshole.

>> No.33325340

>>33325234
>Your voice has been heard, your wish has been granted.

>> No.33325347

>>33324879
I mean, nothing from what they have been doing on the EN/ID side seems to show that they even care about the box, or even Hololive as a whole...
I refuse to belive someone like Kobo joined because she wanted to add something to the group, instead of getting some quick fame and use it to joined the normie circle she wanted from the start.

>> No.33325378

>>33324693
People actually play with their trading cards instead of just framing them or storing them in photo/card albums???

>> No.33325384

>>33325236
Milord you need to save them...

>> No.33325396

>>33325292
Nijiniggers: Luxiem can easily draw in 65k+ people to collabs.
Also Nijiniggers: 7k is really good guys

>> No.33325412

>>33325234
It's a common holoanti psyops ploy here and in the catalogue
The truth is that for better or worse the girls will decide what fits their style of approaching the subject

>> No.33325418

>>33325017
Ame and Kronii are the two that throw the box away with their behavour after tempus debut, and not really they had time to establish a core, a new debutant now might not have the time before burning herself.
that's why i initially narrowed down to fauna, irys and kiara as pre-debut senpais, unless gura becomes enchanted in one of em like she did with fauna, and mumei doesn't seem able to have guidance for anyone with the added workload of college.

>> No.33325432

>>33323274
Timezones cope won't work for Sharky because she has an international audience.

>> No.33325443

>>33325332
>Fucking hell a Hololive talent delay their stream for a HoloStar?
they actually force this?

>> No.33325467

Why does it matter who is blocking who, just be thankful someone is

>> No.33325468

>>33325418
>Ame and Kronii are the two that throw the box away
Truth be told neither ever were in the box, with both actively resisting becoming part of it.
>see also: Kronii bailing out of the "Council civil war" arc on Minecraft, and eventually out of Minecraft at all

>> No.33325472

>>33325396
I warned you about nijiniggers bro

>> No.33325494

>>33325159
All I really want is bunch of lonely hags so EN have someone to imprint onto, Kiara has her mom and KFP but these can't really provide much hololive based content but the others are fucked to the point Gura had to imprint on fucking Ela

>> No.33325506

>>33325188
To add, this also happened:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JdJZlhRzeQ

>> No.33325516

>>33325432
she barely has an audience whatsoever these days. she used to be able to get 30-40k on normal gaming streams, now that's special event numbers for her.

>> No.33325518

>>33325467
because this is the thread where the truth is discussed, not the thread for nijiniggers to spout their lies

>> No.33325520

>>33325251
>>33325006
>>33324533
Do people really think VSPO is above niji girls just because one shitty chart says so. Niji girls are popular worldwide like holo nobody outside japan know what the hell VSPO is. Shit I say more people know about vshojo worldwide then vspo. Plus a lot niji girls are getting ready for nijifes so there no real time for streams. People like lize and mito are pretty much household names at this point in the west.

>> No.33325522

>>33324449
Gura will easily get over 100k. The question should be can it hit 150k. If Gura can make 50k and 60k people appear out of nowhere for unnanounced guerilla streams (AmeSame karaoke and her birthday 3D) she will get huge viewership for something this big that was properly announced on time. You people are crazy.

>> No.33325565

>>33325506
>Nijien are the ones blocking
>Meanwhile Selen says Zeta on streams
The Nijien is blocking collab rrat has been debunked by this vid alone.

>> No.33325591

>>33325234
They sure ass hell will force them to acknowledge them and make them be the Star family. I hope that some of the Tempus boy would overlap Gura concert so she'll not have to be forced to return the favor by the viewer.

>> No.33325594

>>33325520
>Niji girls are popular worldwide
Not NijiJP girls, they're not.

>> No.33325608

>>33325518
So you are saying we should thank them for keeping their fanbase away from the holo girls

>> No.33325631

>>33325520
>Niji girls are popular worldwide
*In china

>> No.33325639

>>33325565
nijitard...

>> No.33325662

>>33325516
this is the same guy who said >>33325292 bt the way

>> No.33325678

>>33325565
Have you actually watched that segment? Selen basically said "fuck the rules" before doing that.

>> No.33325680

>>33325188
Might as well update the pasta with the Nintendo Direct watchalong cancellations if it's already that long

>> No.33325703

>>33325594
I highly doubt even NijiEN are either

>> No.33325710

>>33324902
>>33325262
On the other end of the spectrum, here are the girls with 200+ streams this year

>431 streams: Koyori
>315 streams: Fubuki
>297 streams: Lui
>256 streams: Reine
>236 streams: Kaela
>225 streams: Ollie
>219 streams: Subaru
>218 streams: Towa
>216 streams: Miko
>211 streams: Watame
>201 streams: Matsuri

All hags?

>> No.33325714

>>33325522
Based on previous streams Gura can't not get 60k, but anything above that is up in the air.

>> No.33325730

>>33325639
>>33325678
cope.
if nijien was actually blocking it they she would have not said their names on screen.

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>>33325089
HoloJP had 23 talents 2 years into their lifespan anon.
Until Gen 4 they recruited a new gen every 6 months.
Gen 5 was a little slower made it 8 months.
Gen 6 was where they slowed down, with a gap of 1 year and 4 months between Gens 5 and 6.
EN has 10, not even half of that.

A C C E L E R A T E is memed for Nijisanji because they never pulled the breaks after getting enough talents to form the BOX. They just went "let's keep going and see what happens" and they continued to do so until Selejo, which is where they finally slowed down for a bit.
Only to pick back up again with Ranunculus and Voltaction now that the IPO got opened.

The starting phase is where the Accelerator MUST be pressed, and HoloJP knew this.

>> No.33325741

>>33325710
Koyori was truly a bless

>> No.33325744

>>33325608
Not him but yes, the one thing i'm thankful for is that they kept their organs away from hololive, but it sure as shit wasn't because hololive wanted it that way.

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33325747

For the anons saying the fiscal sheets from anycolor are projections, its available on their own site how their FY are organized:
https://www.anycolor.co.jp/en/ir/calendar
So no, its not projections, its the number for Q1

>> No.33325766

>>33325710
>431 streams: Koyori
Holy shit. Coyote, I kneel.

>> No.33325770

>>33325468
to be fair to kronii, the fans are the ones to blame to why she totally stopped from playing that game.

>> No.33325788

>>33325730
nijitard...

>> No.33325797

>>33325710
>315 streams: Fubuki
>297 streams: Lui
>256 streams: Reine
>225 streams: Ollie
>211 streams: Watame
>201 streams: Matsuri
Huh so spamming streams means shit if youre not entertaining huh.

>> No.33325811

>>33325314
raitocope

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>> No.33325852

>>33325506
Don't be retarded about this. Selen clearly said it wrong because others in NijiEN spoke and speak about it all the time
>>33325680
Ah yes, the direct cancellation while state of play and tgs stream happened..
>>33325006
VSPO collabs more with Nijisanji than hololive, what the fuck are you talking about with your retards samey comments.
>>33324533
And I have to read that this isn't an anti-nijisanji thread lmao

>> No.33325856

>>33325734
Human wave tactics

>> No.33325861

>>33325443
No one has a concrete proof but Gura was absent for a long while and was dying of guilt for not streaming. For 2 year this is the first time she move 2hr from her usual streaming time. Normally she'd just skip that day, you can't tell me management didn't remind her of Star debut.

>> No.33325869

>>33325734
I have no idea what the holdup is, it's getting kinda stupid

>> No.33325878

>>33325770
>the fans are the ones to blame to why she totally stopped from playing that game.
Yeah, "the fans" are to blame
>hey Kronii, we can see you playing on every girl's perspective but yours
>you must have put some 100 hours on Minecraft since debut based on what you build, what about letting us see some of it?
>I DO WHAT I WANT, YOU KNOW? I PLAY MINECRAFT TO RELAX AND ENJOY MYSELF

>> No.33325881

>>33325797
You can go and watch Vox then if you like that type of entertainment

>> No.33325887

>>33325234
Because its a market strategy? Why recruit women that will not play ball with your employees because of gender.

With EN1/2 the damage is done but the culture has not been defined since they're 50/50%. With mot of JP the damage was done AND the culture set in.

It's clear Yagoo has always wanted Homostars to be a thing, and with EN homos being both more popular and the EN branch more receptive, its literally his chance to MAKE them be a thing.

>> No.33325889

>>33325797
Might as well add the leeching whore in your cherrypicking.

>> No.33325915

buffs:
>official 3D live

debuffs:
>not her first 3D live
>no hype building from cover or any of the talents
>dogshit timezone
>potentially underwhelming guest list with no JP heavy hitters
50k might even be a stretch for this thing.

>> No.33325933

>>33325710
I'm telling you man, a hag with something to prove is a dangerous thing. Especially a hag who's grinded in the gutter of the VA industry like mayo dog.

>> No.33325942

>>33325852
>anti-nijisanji thread
oh you are one of those faggots that cry after throwing the stone

>> No.33325952

>>33325881
Vox is more entertaining than the people on that list though.

>> No.33325996

>>33325915
>no hype building from cover or any of the talents
Why are you guys acting like most of the hype for Moona didn't come from..literally the day she did her live?

Though what Gura needs to do already is announce her fucking guests I can't believe she's doing le ebin surprise shit

>> No.33326003

>>33325852
>Don't be retarded about this. Selen clearly said it wrong because others in NijiEN spoke and speak about it all the time
Did I say anything in regards of the clip? I just presented it, why are you implying that I stated anything about it? You're the one twisting Selen's words here

>> No.33326012

>>33325852
>And I have to read that this isn't an anti-nijisanji thread lmao
This thread is a anti-nijisanji thread. They even made those fake discord photos just to hurt nijisanji's image. Im just glad more nijifans like you are here now to stop the lies coming out of this thread.

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>>33324886
Meanwhile the reality outside of this retarded thread that don't get even half of the actual numbers
this isn't a numbers thread, its a tribalist thread not concerned about numbers but wins and ignoring actual data.

>> No.33326025

>>33325852
You know why this thread is an anti nijisanji thread? Because when it isn't, you niggers do shit like this
>>33318958
>>33319013
>>33319073
>>33319148

>> No.33326034

>>33325710
Miko isn't a hag

>> No.33326037

>>33325730
anon please clean your ear and learn english
and maybe read this one>>33325282
>Number 11 will shock you

>> No.33326040

>>33325869
EN management is probably weighing some specific and not actually decisive quality too much and causing them to axe otherwise fine applicants.

>> No.33326042

>>33325996
Moona had the first army hyping her stream up, including a fucking handcam stream from Pekora right before it. Gura's 3D live wasn't even important enough to JP to make it on to AsaKoyo.

>> No.33326046

>>33325952
ah yes hit me with that shouting in a trailerpark abusing my wife while I drink whiskey RP ASMR. get out of here nigger

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>>33326012
Have you discussed this with Paul Li?

>> No.33326060

It's really arguing in bad faith to say VSPO>Nijisanji just because there's a million nijishitters dragging down the Niji Top.

>> No.33326076

>>33325747
of course the anons here ignored your post kek dont waste your time here, they arent interested on facts.

>> No.33326081

>>33325952
Hey Sister, watching a spider crawl on the wall is more entertaining than your whore

>> No.33326091

>>33325942
Maybe you should stop hurting the feelings of the nijisanji fans. Have you ever considered that?

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>>33324946

>> No.33326105

>>33326060
yeah because nijiniggers don't argue in bad faith every day

>> No.33326108

>>33326091
didnt know bugs can have feelings

>> No.33326122

>>33326015
>.3
Damn that chinese money must be rolling in for EN. Must be the reason why theyre avoiding mentioning hololive.

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>>33325852

>> No.33326141

>>33326042
Anon Koyori puts the most random shit from EN on asakoyo. If she didn't put it in, she just didn't know.

>> No.33326145

I warned you about accomodating nijiniggers bros
I fucking warned you

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>>33325730

>> No.33326170

>>33326040
These are the people responsible for the disaster that was Sana and one of the most mentally unstable members of Hololive, Kronii.

>> No.33326177

>>33326091
nigga, people would not downplay and would even celebrate NijiEN's success if not for NijiEN's retarded and insufferable fans.

>> No.33326174

>>33326060
they could just graduate them all or maybe... support them like Holo does to all its talents?

>> No.33326181

>>33326060
Your Niji Top has been embarrassed today, how long till your Top gets VSPO top numbers??

>> No.33326182

>>33326105
Yeah but we beat the shit out of them without that. Why be a nijinigger? It's the same with that faggot that keeps posting the Luxiem gameshow vs Mysta's solo wheel of fortune stream. It debases the real arguments against nijisanji, of which we have hundreds.

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Hhmmmmm your tears are exquisite sisters *pero pero pero pero pero

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>>33326091
You have a place in Wikipedia, Nijisis!!!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurting_the_feelings_of_the_Chinese_people

>> No.33326223

>>33326182
because you let nijiniggers feel comfortable in these threads and tainted the discussion, that's why

>> No.33326233

>holo gold
>still seething at nijichads
why are they/them like this?

>> No.33326238

>>33324879
Maybe I'm just overly optimistic, but I like to imagine that if you have some new potential applicants and they look at what Gura is doing, like getting big concerts, collabing with JP senpais, getting figures and cool costumes, and then they look at the other ENs not really doing that much and they'll be inspired to act like her, like our resident chumbud prime

But Mori too exists so that's probably too hopeful

>> No.33326249

Sisters, it's just Moona no need to meltdown so hard.

>> No.33326250

>>33326015
Is that a fcking q1 2023 projection? Holy fuck that's hilarious
Meanwhile their top EN stars are crying like bitches about reclining. Mysta and Vos would legitimately have blown their fucking brains out if they were Myth and got hit with the 2020 50% slash

>> No.33326255

>>33325234
>omega

>> No.33326259

>>33326015
its still funny as fuck to me how many anons are so ignorant about things that they thought this was projections.
>>33325734
They slowed down in 2020, not until selejo. 2018 had over 50 debuts in JP, over 40 in 2019 and then in 2020 they had about 12, with 5 in 2021 and 8 in 2022 so far
Nijisanji actual accelerate moment was years ago. now in comparison they are going slow for JP and even their overseas branches

>> No.33326282

>>33326249
Iofi will destroy them.

>> No.33326288

>>33326233
I know right? wonder why nijifags cant just take the L and move on

>> No.33326295

>>33326233
Because NijiEN is actually becoming a threat to Hololive. Its the same reason why people here like to suck NijiJP dick since they are not a threat to Hololive anymore.

>> No.33326313

>>33326238
This, or just people who watch holoJP and wants to be like them

>> No.33326316
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>le mass replying nijinog

>> No.33326350

>>33326060
I mean, it's a consequence of their decision. Why should they not get shit on for it?
Not like the numbers discussed this are anything other than shitposting anyways.

>> No.33326354

>EU hours
>Nijiniggers crawl out of the woodwork
It's all so tiresome

>> No.33326357

>>33326295
>like to suck NijiJP
we just laughed at Slipking anon

>> No.33326361

>>33325887
so they actually need to leech to become a thing?

>> No.33326374

>>33326015
so NijiEN has to double its revenue, its events need to be up by 200% in revenue?

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>>33325797
>Huh so spamming streams means shit if youre not entertaining huh.
There is no correlation between "entertainment" and "number of streams" but some of the ones you mentioned (Fubuki, Watame, Lui) outrank many of the EN girls with a fraction of their streams

>> No.33326406

I mean nijisanji are winning wither holotrash wants to admit it or not.
>Niji are pretty much the go to sponsor for miHoYo and pretty much turned niji to overseas ambassadors for all their games.
>Rosemi is one of the main hosts for fucking tokyo game show that bigger than anything holo en got.
>Selen got a sponsor with nikka god of war.
>Lastly the most important is genshin paid about 200,000 yen just to have vox talk about the game. They shows they view niji en as partners. I won't be surprise if it leads to nijisanji being put in the game or even the anime. Which are pretty much set in stone.

>> No.33326422

>>33326122
are you retarded or mentally iliterate?
>3. Include china business (including NIJISANJI and NIJISAnJI EN's Bilibili distribution etc) and sales generated ffrom the activities of vtubers who belong to NIJISANJI and are active in south korea and Indonesia
This "3." is only on other. Have you seen the size of other? its very small and don't even count for EN or JP.
If you want to make such retarded argument, at least analyze it right. Chinese buying shit would be on 1. or 2.

>> No.33326425

>>33326357
anon she literally says the exact same thing every day, alongside "Holofans falseflagging as nijifags" and "Fake discord images", how do you not know her playbook yet?

>> No.33326426

>>33326233
We are bored anon
You are not putting up any fight so we have to imagine one to keep us entertained

>> No.33326432

>>33326259
huh, when was their last wave before Selejo?

>> No.33326443

>>33326354
More like 24 / 7 thre are nijinigs here, what are you even on about?

>> No.33326456

>>33326295
Vox was a promising contender. Maybe he'll recover and cum all over China again

>> No.33326457

>>33326381
Irys, kronii, and gura are disappointing

>> No.33326458

>>33326406
I hope Rosemi talks about Aqua's VN and the Cover booth, since she's a virtual tour guide.

>> No.33326469

>>33326250
>>33326374
are you fucking retarded or blind imbecile?>>33325747
why the fuck you faggots ignore this?

>> No.33326481

>>33326457
Ina Ina Ina...

>> No.33326491

>>33326469
blame >>33326406 for turning this place into the anti nijisanji thread

>> No.33326503

>>33326313
People like that are so fucking rare nowadays. Out of out of all Council there's only one big fan of HoloJP, and that's Sana. The new girls will either be clueless like Kronii or HoloEN fan.

>> No.33326532

>>33326457
>Irys
>disappointing
Fuck off nigger. She punches well above her weight given how passed over she is and how much of a debuff her model is.

>> No.33326538

>>33326469
this is the numbers thread where anons dont know how to read financial documents

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So why is homogra so unpopular anyway?
Bad marketing of main channel?

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>>33326406
>Whether holotrash
Stop reading there, but I'm also still waiting for the Usaken VS 50 withers, fellow Nijisis!!!

>> No.33326566

>>33326503
Then they should put in the extra effort to get them, it's a travesty that someone like Kronii don't even know that Ahoy was a Marine song.

>> No.33326578

>>33325734
21 you mean Suisei only joined after Gen3 did and Azki only joined officially a few months ago.

>> No.33326585

>>33326432
Kirame and Meio

>> No.33326620

>>33326491
Thats a holofag trying to falseflagg as a nijifan No true nijifan would say stuff like this.

>> No.33326624

>>33326503
Or worse, Mori / Ame fans.

>> No.33326631

>>33326141
I think Koyo asks first to include things in her show. She might have asked and Gura, infamous for not replying to messages per the other EN members, didn't respond in time.

>> No.33326633

>>33325747
reminder that anons will ignore this is a thing and act like anycolor made projections, all because they dont know how to read and then get corrected and dont change kek

>> No.33326636

>>33326532
She doesn't stream and gets low numbers, so she's disappointing. Seethe more, irystocrap.

>> No.33326650

>>33326620
And then you wonder why this place is the anti nijisanji thread

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>>33326406
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>> No.33326667 [DELETED] 

How do we deal with the nijinigger problem?

>> No.33326672

>>33326406
>CN sponsor
>that great
>its not nikka god of war that Nikke goddess of victory CN sponsor
>CN Sponsor
yeah pray the chinese always with them anon

>> No.33326677

>>33326532
Delusional ass IRyStocrat. Passed over in what way? Getting 20+ songs made for her in one year? Three individual merch runs in one year? 3 con appearances? Tell me in what way she is passed over compared to other ENs.

>> No.33326678
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>>33325747
> In Japan, the government's financial year is from 1 April to 31 March.
> The fiscal year from 1 April 2022 to 31 March 2023 is called 2022–nendo.
> Japan's income tax year is 1 January to 31 December.
So it's neither the govt's financial year OR the income tax year. Just something they arbitrarily made up, and supposedly starts at May.
I'm sure their presented numbers are completely honest as well.
I'm sure they haven't changed some of their marketing slides when they strayed too close to actually being lies.

>> No.33326686

>>33326667
Return to ඞ

>> No.33326697

>>33326406
I know this should be laughed out at but just a piece of advice,
> genshin paid about 200,000 yen just to have vox
if you want to shitpost maybe add extra 0s coz 200,00 yen looks a lot but it is less than 1400$

>> No.33326705

>>33326141
>>33326631
pretty much, a few episodes ago she featured some weird shit about kronii and she showed the dm when she asked her
management also shuts down shit

>> No.33326708

>>33324841
Anon Bushiroad's recently financial report said their operating margin grow fucking 850%

>> No.33326709

>>33326560
it is what would you expect from the numbers of jp homos

>> No.33326710

>>33326469
Because it says 2023 moron.

>> No.33326711

>>33326667
we must develop a final solution to the nijinigger question

>> No.33326718

>>33326667
Nuke the EN vtubers as a whole, from each and every side.

>> No.33326719

>samefagging
>samefagging
>samefagging

>> No.33326722

>>33326503
Well Sana didn't try at all to emulate JP, so being a JP fan hardly seems like a recipe for a good chuuba.

>> No.33326725

>>33326678
Why would Anycolor have to follow Japans way retard?

>> No.33326739

>>33326457
IRyS gets a pass for two reasons.

1. She wasn't hired as a streamer
2. Despite the small number of streams she is actually 2nd in hours behind only Kiara. All of her streams are like 6 hours long.

>> No.33326757
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>>33326667
use this

>> No.33326761

>>33326457
At least IRyS tends to stream for 5+ hours when she does stream.

>> No.33326768

>>33326672
Nikke is Korean retard, I don't understand your ESL post.

>> No.33326771
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>>33326406
>200,000 yen just to have vox talk about the game
????

>> No.33326801

>>33324841
Remember the photo that Bushiroad's founder went to holo expo and bunch of fans kneel infront of him kek.

>> No.33326818

>>33326710
>>33326678
Holy shit, its not possible you guys are this much dumb. Companies have different FY you fucking retards. Anycolor function like this because of when it was founded.

>> No.33326823

I just want EN3 to show some gratitude after winning the equivalent of a lottery ticket and get settle for life. I'm tired of holos shitting on their fanbase

>> No.33326825
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33326825

I mean this thread is pretty much anti niji for the dumbest reasons. I'm pretty sure it hololive fans that insecure to their hit game holo error floping on steam with bad reviews.

>> No.33326828
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Man the sisters are really losing thier minds at Vox and Mysta's recline

>> No.33326836

>>33326761
>>33326739
2 hours of gaming and 3 hours of collecting money from delusional fans

>> No.33326844

>>33325747
But why is there only JP and EN language option.
Where is CN??

>> No.33326843

what's with the streaming hours discussion, as far as i know there's not a real correlation
there's people who stream a lot and do good cause of it, but there's also people who do bad because they stream a lot
there's also people that barely stream, some of them do really good and get a rarity buff, and there's others that barely stream and get shit because of it
there's examples of all of these in holo, nevermind the rest of the industry
the only thing streaming a lot does is that it keeps you afloat if you're not particularly talented

>> No.33326851

>>33326667

And not a thing more, especially not spamming it like you are trying to ward off a devil by repeatedly making a cross

>> No.33326853

>>33326585
2020
> Meifu (Jan 30)
> VALZ (April 2), 2 month gap
> Kiramero (June 30), 3 month gap
> Selejo (Aug 6), 1 month gap
2021
> Edengumi (July 19), 11 month gap

Well what do you know, I was right. They only slowed after Selejo.

>> No.33326860
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>>33326825
anon the fuck are you talking about

>> No.33326870

>>33326678
What a convenient argument for you all to ignore all of the information they release and all of their financials.

>> No.33326877

>>33326823
they need to hire people that know about vtubers and hololive for this and for some reason en management is too retarded to do it

>> No.33326880
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33326880

>>33326406
> all this to cope with just 1 monthly gold

>> No.33326882

>>33326566
I hope so but the thing is the scouting team will more likely to encounter EN fan than JP fan nowadays. In Myth time they got Gura Kiara and Ina who are big JP fan
>>33326624
Most Holomem who said they're Mori fan are just fan of her music, not her as a person. The only one Mori fan that i can say that really like her is Lui.

>> No.33326894

>>33326825
Why don't you show the whole screen shot faggot?

>> No.33326901
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>> No.33326906

>>33326503
I don't think they need to be the biggest fan in the world, going "PekoraPekoraPekora" in their debut. It feels like being too big of a fan isn't a good thing either
But I hope for the future EN management can put in effort to find people people that are at least familiar with the company they're joining. Sometimes it feels like they just see if someone has a decent resume and a nice voice and sign off when there are other important aspects needed for growing the hololive brand.

>> No.33326919

>>33326825
So why do you lie?

>> No.33326920

>>33326578
Ah right, I thought that happened in mid 2019 but I guess it was in December.

>> No.33326937

>>33326853
...Anon, are you retarded? Look at how much they debuted in 2018 and 2019 and tell me they didn't begin slowing down in 2020 with only 4 waves in 2020 compared to the last two years

>> No.33326966

>>33326901
Elira profile pic lol

>> No.33326994
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33326994

A FUCKING CONTAINMENT BREAKER

>> No.33326995 [DELETED] 
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>>33326825
Why the fuck are nijiniggers ALWAYS lying

>> No.33326999

Bots

>> No.33327006

>>33326937
3 month gap between waves is still within the realm of "ACCELERATE" anon.
Selejo is where they finally pulled the brakes.
Probably after seeing Gen 5 numbers.

>> No.33327008

>>33326825
That is the table tennis game you fag

>> No.33327016

>>33326901
This guy WILL nijibeg in your oshis youtube comment section

>> No.33327020

>>33326906
Why are you even thinking about another EN gen? Cover already deconfirmed it.

>> No.33327022

>>33326825
It's an actual shit game but also, blatant lies like this is why people hate nijiniggers.

>> No.33327029

>>33326825
we must develop a final solution to the nijinigger problem

>> No.33327047

>>33327020
We must develop a final solution to the nijinigger problem

>> No.33327056

>>33326870
maybe they should've been honest in their statements if they wanted people to trust them.

>> No.33327058

>>33326768
Nikke-level infinite-tencent-CN

>> No.33327063
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33327063

Why does the Homo want to lick Ame?

>> No.33327072

>>33327047
>>33327029
>ඞ

>> No.33327083

>>33327020
Because anon need to cope that cover somehow cares for them when its clear that they are abandoning ship due to abysmal hololive event numbers comapared to nijisanji.

>> No.33327108 [DELETED] 

>>33327083
The Nijinigger is immunized against all dangers; one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a nijinigger and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: 'I've been found out.'

>> No.33327109

>>33327063
ask Amelia, she made the thumbnail

>> No.33327122

>>33327063
>>33327083

>> No.33327124
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33327124

>>33326994
UN PUTAIN DE FRANÇAIS!!!!

>> No.33327140

>>33327058
>tencent
>CN
not anymore theyve been trying to decouple from CN since the economy there is about to do a 2008 but on a much bigger scale.

>> No.33327146

>>33327083
We must develop a final solution to the nijinigger problem

>> No.33327168
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33327168

NotLulu has been streaming for 5 hours

>> No.33327178

Gas all nijiniggers

>> No.33327194

>>33326836
More like 4 hours gameplay and 2 hours hanging out with fans. Don't be jealous that IRyS cares about her fans and wants to talk to us. Sorry you have an oshi that hates her fans.

>> No.33327200

>>33327168
Haha!

>> No.33327203
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33327203

>>33327020
:14
>>33327083
:16

>> No.33327261

>>33327168
haha, It's NotFlan!

>> No.33327276

>>33327168
Such a shame that she quit Nijisanji. She would have been bigger if she just stayed there instead of being impatient and quit.

>> No.33327303

>>33326828
how the fuck did one thread on /vt mindbroke corporate shills to discuss numbers on a fucking doxxsite of all things LMAO

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Why did Cover curse irys with the vsinging branding. This bitch clearly just wants to stream and maybe make songs at her own pace.

>> No.33327340 [DELETED] 

>>33327276
We must develop a final solution to the nijinigger problem

>> No.33327345

>Here is a graph of a for-profit organization increasing their yearly income (truth) which means nijisanji won and holokeks should kneel (stupid niji projection)
Is there really not a single good person in nijisanji fandom? Why are all of them like this?

>> No.33327366

>>33327276

>> No.33327369 [DELETED] 

>>33327345
as I've said, we must develop a final solution to the nijinigger problem

>> No.33327371

>>33327335
holoEN is a fucking mismanaging hell carried by a bunch of autistic girls

>> No.33327426

>>33326457
IRyS gets a pass because she has to save her voice, the others are just two lazy whores

>> No.33327439

A randomly selected poster from this thread would be a better holoEN branch manager than whoever's in charge right now.

>> No.33327447

>>33327335
Because she applied to be a vsinger. If she wasnt such a tribalistic retard and apply to nijisanji then she would have gotten what she wanted.

>> No.33327467 [DELETED] 

>>33327447
We must develop a final solution to the nijinigger problem

>> No.33327470

>>33327006
anon im not talking about the period between waves but how many they released in a year. In 2018 and 2019 they released almost 100 vtubers while in 2020 it was 12.

>> No.33327482

>>33327439
What if I got selected and I fired everyone?

>> No.33327491

>>33327439
You don't know how dumb this thread can be...

>> No.33327496

>>33327439
NijiEN management is far better than HoloEN management at this point and its no contest.

>> No.33327500

>>33327335
She should have been more appealing in auditions if she wanted to be a normal Holo

>> No.33327512

>>33327439
>Randomly selected
>The Nijinig gets picked
>inb4 it's still somehow run better

>> No.33327519

>>33327056
>>33327345
Funny thing, I never said anything about Anycolor winning over anyone, except maybe VSPO. point is to show how you retards ignore data all the time.

>> No.33327531

>>33327491
But how much of it is pretending to be retarded for (you)s?

>> No.33327533

>>33327496

>> No.33327551

>>33327496
This.
Say what you will about Paul Li or Noor but at least they know whats up.

>> No.33327559

>>33327439
>randomly selects a nijichink
Did you work for cover and gave mod status to a bug?

>> No.33327590

>>33327519
>>33326678
>So it's neither the govt's financial year OR the income tax year. Just something they arbitrarily made up, and supposedly starts at May.

>> No.33327596

>>33327551
What happened with the nintendo watch along?

>> No.33327608

>>33327519
I personally ignore the Anycolor quarter stuff because i don't have anything to compare so really it just look like number gets bigger and that's it.

>> No.33327627

>>33327519
Niji shitposters (and some of the company's statements) have caused this whole thread to automatically reject any sort of hard data that's coming from them as lies automatically.
It's a conditioned response to a "crying wolf" situation.

>> No.33327632

>>33327519
So you posted a graph without any meaning? Got it. Cool graph, big numbers got bigger, me like.

>> No.33327636

>>33327596
They probably had an emergency meeting for nijifes.

>> No.33327643

>>33327551
It's hard work getting those keychain runs set up

>> No.33327653

>>33327447

>> No.33327661

>>33327439
HoloEN managers are a bunch of retard bur i don't think they're as dumb as some in this thread. We have fag who can't pass the fucking PvZ water level, fags who think 10k is closer to 20k than 2k, fags who can't remember multiplication table, fags who can't read, can't count, fags have no eyes, no brain.

>> No.33327666

>>33327636
You could have just said you don't know.

>> No.33327674
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Everyone knows Noor but the other Niji IN girl's model was cute too

>> No.33327677

>>33327439
But my first order of business would be to molest Mel again.

>> No.33327679

>>33327632
Based

>> No.33327694

>>33327661
dude wtf

>> No.33327757

>>33327470
Anon 4 waves in 8 months is still 14 livers. Sure it's "slower" compared to 2020 but it's still faster than Hololive JP was doing at their highest.
Pulling the Accelerator from 100 to 80 is "slowing down" but it doesn't mean the speed is any less dangerous.
Selejo caused a 11 month gap after them, which is what I was referring to as "slowing down".

>> No.33327796 [DELETED] 

>>33327496
We must develop a final solution to the nijinigger problem

>> No.33327836
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>>33327496

>> No.33327846

>>33327439
have you seen the state of this thread my man?

>> No.33327870

when was the last thread with a Salome mention
is she ok

>> No.33327873

>>33327846
I have seen the state of holoEN.

>> No.33327934

>>33327870
She reclined hard so when she's brought up is to laugh at her.

>> No.33327938

>>33327870
she got killed by gura, and then we never heard from her again

>> No.33327943

>>33327870
She's all over the place now. A really shitty debuff stream can bring her down to 10k but a moderately buff stream can get her to to either 20k or 30k.

>> No.33327951

>>33327590
This lack of familiarity with how fiscal years for companies work is alarming. You guys all have white-collar careers, right? Like, I'm not posting in a fucking numbers thread with a bunch of grocery store stockers and car washers who literally don't know the absolute most basic rules of business... right?

>> No.33327962

>>33327873
and it's better than this thread could manage

>> No.33327995

>>33327873
Tbf i'd nominate fag with no brain to be HoloEN management. At this point just letting them doing whatever is better for my oshi.

>> No.33328007

>>33327873
where's nijiEN's 3D lives or 360° streams
or even custom merch lmao

>> No.33328019

>>33327496
I, too, love NijiENs breakdowns over numbers as they recline or debut and freefall into irrelevancy.

>> No.33328042

>>33328007
No need to bring the Nijis into this flagger kun

>> No.33328052

>>33327870
I thought she would settle to pekora numbers but sometimes hitting Gura, Ayame or Aqua numbers is still great.

>> No.33328062

>>33327870
It's honestly baffling how she has had zero impact in the west. No one cares about her other than nijitourists who were apparently expecting something to happen.

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>>33327590

>> No.33328106

>>33328052
anon...

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>>33327873

>> No.33328119

>>33327632
I posted the graph to show their finances and to show how their FY actually works
>>33327951
They are just throwing shit at google, they dont know how it works. really, most here seems to only know number big number small, nothing else.

>> No.33328164

>>33328062
I mean she made exactly zero effort to engage with overseas bros. People in the West are as likely to know about her as Jun. Hell most of the people in this thread have probably never watched her. Her appeal, such as it is, is pretty limited unless you know JP and a bit of it's memes/culture

>> No.33328185

>>33328042
seethe more nijikek

>> No.33328188

>>33324035
If it was Gura against Mori and both were adamant I think Gura would win, the EN branch would die without Gura in its current state, and chumbuds would generally just be more ornery than deadbeats, but Gura is only adamant on her own person so functionally speaking its Mori.

>> No.33328233

>>33328106
what? she got 28k last stream which above those 3

>> No.33328241

>>33328062
she had zero impact in Japan too, after her sudden burst of popularity she basically fell off the face of the earth

>> No.33328262

>>33328062
its not baffling. She's successful in Japan and thats what matter. She's a japanese vtuber.
There's plenty of big jp vtubers out there without anything in the west, in nijisanji, vspo, 774 and many other agencies.

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>>33327870
I mean...

>> No.33328306

>>33328164
Yeah, outside of hardcore weebs no one in the West is going to give a shit about the ojou larp and humor that doesn't translate well into other languages.

>> No.33328317

>>33324841
Anon HoloWeiss literally saved Bushiroad's finances, they would gone into the red without them

>> No.33328316

>>33328241
she's top 5 niji and in the top 10 of the industry. shes not a 5k or 1k vtuber, calm down

>> No.33328322

>>33328062
Baffling? It makes complete sense, she is a Japanese character archetype that appeals to a Japanese audience whose content is catered to Japanese people.

>> No.33328342

>>33327496
Having literally no management is a positive over either of these

>> No.33328343

>>33328281
High sub numbers are nice but CCV and VoD views are more important to me

>> No.33328348

>>33326801
Kek no, have a link?

>> No.33328354

>>33328317
>>33326708
So if you run a company in an anime-adjacent industry, working with Hololive is literally free money. I wonder if people are beating their doors down

>> No.33328360

>>33328019
>Nijien management telling their livers how to stream effectively is bad now
I know holofags are already used to management not caring but what nijien management is doing is what a normal company should be doing if they actually cared.

>> No.33328361

>>33328241
>>33328233
>>33328052
>>33327870
I still believe the Pecock's return mid June as well as this particular clip https://youtu.be/IYXDEf1MV6Y marked her permanent decline.

>> No.33328363

>>33328316
>top 10 of the industry
According to who?

>> No.33328371

>>33328316
Same could be said for Gura too and that didn't stop nijiniggers from doomposting her, why should Salome be taken to different standards?

>> No.33328390

>>33328019
thats on their own personality. Funny how most dont have it because most arent numberfags.

>> No.33328403

>>33328371
And the ones doomposting about Gura are a bunch of retards, why be like them?

>> No.33328410

>>33328360
>>33328390
you guys should cordinate your copes better

>> No.33328426

>>33328371
gura hasn't been top 10 since 2020. the industry has grown up since then.

>> No.33328435

>>33328316
>shes not a 5k or 1k vtuber
yet and at the rate shes going she might hit those numbers in jan.

>> No.33328437

>>33328403
oh now you say they are retards. Where were you when the thread seriously thought that Gura won't break 60k?

>> No.33328439

>>33328371
You guys sound like children. Uuuuuuuuh he did it first!!!!!!! so im going to do it backkkkkk!!!
then you all dont want to be mocked for the state of this thread
>>33328363
According to her subs and CCV

>> No.33328454

>>33328343
but not for normies

>> No.33328465

>>33328439
Stop living in the past, sister.

>> No.33328467

>>33328371
If I see a pig wallow in the mud should I jump in too?

>> No.33328472

>>33328371
Dead subs.

>> No.33328487

>>33328437
>all anons here are the same person
zzzzzzzzzz

>> No.33328488

>>33328439
>You guys sound like children. Uuuuuuuuh he did it first!!!!!!! so im going to do it backkkkkk!!!
This is literally all you nijiniggers do kek

>> No.33328489

>>33328112
>no piss stain

>> No.33328493

>>33328360
>>33328390
Love the different responses.

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The sisters seem extra rattled today, did something happen

>> No.33328531

>>33328426
watch this guy get no pushback on his lies and then you wonder why nijiniggers keep coming back here to peddle their lies

>> No.33328535

>>33328465
I looked at her ccv average from that anon who does the graphs and she's up there.

>> No.33328536

>>33328493
Both can be true though.

>> No.33328537

>>33328527
Moona pegged king

>> No.33328554

The issue with Salome isn't just her massive decline. There's some opportunity cost in devoting time, money, and energy on a solo debut. Is Niji really better off than if they had debuted a full gen? Or a full gen including her? I don’t know for sure, but I feel like long-term it might have been the better choice

>> No.33328561
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>>33328527
They got struck by envy of a comfortable seat

>> No.33328567

>>33327335
VSinger brand is fine. EN vsinger that is former JP utaite, recruited by AZKi and is created as a separated EN unit, now that is the braindead move here.

>> No.33328573

>>33328527
August ended, No monthly gold at all, Luxiem is reclining unless they do events and Moona mogged King once again.

>> No.33328577
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33328577

>>33328322
>>33328062

Salome blow up with the english speaking fan for a while. In fact she has entire channel dedicted to her for clips. Here one of her less known clips vs hololive famous clip.

>> No.33328578

>>33328493
yes, because that anon is clearly a falseflagger speaking unrealistic shit.

>> No.33328591

>>33328561
Holy shit, Niji may have more mind chairs but I bet none are this fancy!

>> No.33328603

>>33328577
Dude. Clip anon exists. Why bother? Are you that desperate for yous?

>> No.33328605

Okay, so let me get this graph business in order.

This anon >>33325747 implies that Anycolor have a custom Financial Year that starts at May of that Year.
Alright, fair enough.

But as this anon >>33326710 points out, they indicate Q1 2023 on their chart here >>33326015
According to their own calendar, their graph states Q1 2023, which starts in May.
Which is why a lot of anons are suggesting that it's speculation for next year.

So I assume that "FY 2023" in their chart implies that, for them internally, the Financial year 2023 started in May 2022, am I correct?

>> No.33328615

>>33328561
That's pretty good tracking nice, impressive even.

>> No.33328629

>>33328577
>Cherrypicking
you are really desperate

>> No.33328630

>>33328527
Some of them woke up thinking today would break a 10 day goldless streak, both on EN and Global with Mysta and Kuzuha

Surely they wouldn't lose to a low-4 view ID streamer (by 10k) and a total flop no talent singer (by 2k)

And here we are

>> No.33328631

>>33328577
farm farm farm the yous

>> No.33328643

I am starting VOD of Moona's live
What should I except?

>> No.33328663

>>33328605
yeah, seems about right.

>> No.33328673

>>33328454
getting into recommended videos are what gets normies to actually tune in, VoD and ccv numbers influences that. People who say vods don't matter are morons.

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>>33328577
Here's my cherry picked clip

>> No.33328685

>>33328643
Mostly solo, only a couple guests

>> No.33328687

>>33328605
Correct. Fiscal Q1 2023 would be May-June-July.
We're in Q2 which ends at the end of October.
The report is literally labeled actual Q1 results if you read the eigo version.

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>>33328577
Abayo SalomeTard you wouldn't want to play that game!!!

>> No.33328702

>>33328354
They might but then again, the problem about china could be still a debuff for some.
What I wanna know is more about how good the Among Us collab will go. If does good, it might be the break into mainstream games.

>> No.33328703

>>33328643
Moona's moonas.

>> No.33328716

>>33328643
chair magic

>> No.33328745

>>33328702
You really want Fortnite x Hololive?

>> No.33328754

>>33328674
Ha, I got that Marine one in my algo yesterday.

>> No.33328755

>>33328745
unironically yes

>> No.33328767

>>33328643
Virtual chairs + Moona bombs a church then converts to catholicism .

>> No.33328797

>>33328745
If that means more eyes and money to my oshi, sure.

>> No.33328799
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33328799

Holosharts think their monthly gold cope are relevant kek. This thread doesn't know shit about numbers. Niji is winning where it matters.

>> No.33328800

>>33328745
I think it would be hilarious both as a fan and as a numberfag.
I think Gura and Pekora skins in Fortnite would probably make them millions

>> No.33328822

>>33328643
神OF神
きtらOFきtら!
In short that was insanely good for a 3D live live.

>> No.33328836

>>33328755
I can never get into these zoomer fps. Is shooting a gun not enough of a superpower for these brats?

>> No.33328841

>>33328799
Ogey

>> No.33328844

>>33328745
They should do a Fortnite concert as warmup for their meme game.

>> No.33328880
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the sisters are really mad today. holy shit.

>> No.33328890

>>33328799
The mindchair matter yes.

>> No.33328897

Gura

>> No.33328912

>>33328880
koyo my beloved

>> No.33328913

>>33328745
Imagine getting to kick Goku's ass as Gura

>> No.33328932

>>33328880
Post the Lui hips too it's the only good thing she has.

>> No.33328934

>>33324244
why do we pretend nijiEN is popular again?

>> No.33328937

>>33328844
didn't fortnite show a feminist panel in one of their events? Or was that just an edit?

>> No.33328947

>Vesper is a sub 3.5k streamer now
The unity/collab fanbase fucking off after each collab rrat is getting stronger.

>> No.33328959

>>33328937
If you get all angry at a big game corporation doing SJW pandering you're going to have nothing left to play except Polish indie games and Escape from Tarkov

>> No.33328965

>Solo Blue Clapper
>Doesn't even clap her hands
Moona...

>> No.33328969

>>33328947
smodge this game is unbearable, i really hope he doesn't touch it again.

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>>33328932

>> No.33328986

>>33328972
lui my beloved

>> No.33328987

>>33328947
>Dicey Dungeons
Get better material

>> No.33328992

>>33328959
>>33328937
I love Tarkov though

>> No.33328999

>>33328745
Promotion is good for my oshi, so yes.

>> No.33329000

>>33328969
ftl was also an unbearable game and he still got numbers for it.

>> No.33329023

>>33328972
FASTER!!!!!!!

>> No.33329046

>>33329000
FTL is amazing fuck you

>> No.33329051

>>33329000
FTL has the buff of being an autistic game
Dicey dungeons does not, it's just another rogue lite game.

>> No.33329061

>>33328897
I AM OVERCOME WITH BLOOD BOILING RAGE

>> No.33329075

So can OBS not be set up to not show certain programs on-stream? You'd think they'd make a way for Discord to be specifically excluded since vtubers yab with it on a weekly basis
>>33329000
That stream was fun because he was very good and knowledgeable about it.

>> No.33329081

>>33329000
ftl was so much more hype than this, lots of micro/rng and banger ost, this one is just glorified slot machines without the dopamine hit.

>> No.33329082

>>33328959
I will have you know that good chunk of Polish indie games ooze so much character and personality that they are really hard to forget if you ever experience one even through watching someone else play them!
Everything from Submachine series to the fucking Darkwood, you are more likely to remember five minutes of their atmosphere than you are to remember your own parents!

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>>33328663
>>33328687
Yeah I can see why that would be confusing.
In any case, this implies that the big boom NijiEN was May, June and July 2022.
Let's see all the stuff they had during that period
> Lazulight Anniversary + Merch (May 15)
> Obsydia Anniversary + Merch (July 18)
Birthdays
> Ike : June 12
> Pomu : July 12
If I'm not wrong, this was also the period where all the NijiEN offcollabs and rare karaoke stuff happened, including the period that Vox was "top dog" as he says.

So yeah, I guess this is one of those spikes. Very useful to show an incline to investors, but likely to return to normal since they only have Ethyria anniversary for next month as a big event and zero birthdays.

>> No.33329106

>>33328897
It seems my

>> No.33329136

>>33329082
Hey I'm not shitting on Polish games, they're disproportionately good.

>> No.33329141

>>33328880
I will never unsee that used condom belt

>> No.33329144

>>33329051
It's weird how Vesper talks so much about wanting to come up with interesting stream ideas but chooses a lot of games that aren't that interesting to watch.

>> No.33329146

>>33329046
Captain edition is*

>> No.33329158

>>33329046
>>33329051
>>33329075
>>33329081
Im looking at the stream and its as boring as ftl though.

>> No.33329182

>>33328361
Yeah, once people found out she was just Debi she reclined pretty hard.

>> No.33329190

When is nijiID mogging Pekora or holo main channel

>> No.33329196

>>33328880
mesmerizing koyo hips... they make me go primal...

>> No.33329220

>>33329144
Thats because he's retardedly going down the same path he did before joining hololive.

>> No.33329222

>>33329158
What point of autistic game didn't you get.

>> No.33329226

>>33329158
because you are a woman who don't understand the joy of being the captain of your own spacechip managing your energy to pile into your subsystems

>> No.33329227

>>33329158
Only Engi level intellects can appreciate FTL

>> No.33329250

>>33329158
maybe if you are a fucking pleb

>> No.33329254
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Man, Moona is cute
This was the song where she mogged King right?

>> No.33329279
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>>33328897
Gura

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>>33329182
But Debi is a good thing

>> No.33329310

>>33329220
He's so against trying games outside his comfort zone. Ironically, he didn't want to play Minecraft for this reason initially but ended up loving it. Probably a sign he should experiment more.

>> No.33329339

>>33329310
His autistic occupation with never playing a game for the first time on stream is a bad habit

>> No.33329349

>>33329254
>No.1
Seems about right

>> No.33329352

>>33329310
he doesn't like looking incompetent on stream so he never plays anything he doesn't understand if he can get away with it

>> No.33329360

>>33329220
wont be long til he does gaybaiting again.

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>>33328799
Enjoy the celebration months I suppose.
I'm glad Cover isn't China's public onahole
.

>> No.33329378

>>33329220
the hope is that now he has genmates that can pull it from the loop and do new things.

>> No.33329379

>>33329190
Ask Hana to naked dogeza in 3D and make her sing the Salat before making a pilgrimage to the Kaaba.

>> No.33329380

>>33326015
am I retarded or are they actually predicting nijien 7x+ quarterly revenue in 6 months
225 -> 1630

>> No.33329388

>>33329254
Yes, pretty kino with the fat fucks (me) dancing in front of her

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>>33329158
anon...

>> No.33329406

>>33329380
yeah
>>33329091

>> No.33329417

>>33329360
this is one of those things everyone says he does but nobody can actually provide proof for

>> No.33329462

>>33329379
How is Hana doing these days anyway? I'm somewhat surprised she's even still in the game. She used to be so big but I never hear about her or even get recommended clips anymore

>> No.33329466

>>33328880
This will probably be their last time they win a double gold this month (sorry Iofi, I don’t have faith in you) because there’s about to be a chain of streams coming out that will fucking blow them out. It’s no surprise they’re fuming

>> No.33329500

>>33329417
Its been known since before he joined hololive anon just dumpster dive. Even before joining cover there was some discussion of him outside this thread. There are some small hints of it in his youtube but the actual vid will be pretty hard since it was on twitch.

>> No.33329503

>>33329380
they're using a celebration quarter spike as an indication of a permanent incline.
their stock will likely tank next quarter since that graph will return to normal

>> No.33329509

>>33329378
But that means he'll only do collab games, except for Spore but at this point every tempus member HAS to play spore to at least make another member.

>> No.33329530

>>33329417
pretty sure it's one of his PL on-stream jokes getting twisted again.
>>33329500
rrat until proven

>> No.33329550

>>33329503
That's the time you buy their stocks and wait for the next koshien/celebration month and sell it.

>> No.33329554

>>33329503
>they're using a celebration quarter spike as an indication of a permanent incline.
So basically like what Vox did and basing his incline on it and got depressed once numbers went down?

>> No.33329567
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>>33328605
Yes, May-July is their Q1, then it goes from there. Companies have their own FY, not all the times they will have the default of the country.
>>33329091
Most of their revenue came from merch. Merch (Digital like voice packs+physical), Superchat/member/adsense on yt and then sponsorship
You are forgetting Luxiem half anniversary and voice packs in the middle of that

>> No.33329569

>>33329500
This is like one of those "My uncle knows a guy who knows a guy who works at Nintendo and he says the next nintendo console is coming out this christmas" things

>> No.33329575

Why is the rest of the catalog so much better at discussing numbers than this shit thread?

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A shot that is both hot and cool

>> No.33329607

>>33329503
Doesn't matter, Anykara only has a six month lock out on their top brass selling stock so by the time the Q2 report rolls around Riku and co would've cashed out and be sailing away into the sunset in their golden yatch

>> No.33329623

>>33329575
Same reason why /ck/ has better anime discussions than /a/.

>> No.33329622

>>33329575
You don't go to catalog.

>> No.33329627

>>33329575
because you let nijiniggers make themselves confortable here and they transformed the place into a palace of lies

>> No.33329631

>>33329380
Yes, you are retarded, just like this other guys here who think this is projection when it just refers to May-July>>33329503

>> No.33329666

>>33329567
>NijiEN is actually carrying the whole Nijisanji brand now.
And people laughed at me when i pointed out that NijiJP is an irrelevant and useless branch.

>> No.33329680

>>33329627
No. It's because of hooligan niggers like you who only use numbers to tribalfag.

>> No.33329701

>>33329631
But the last guys is saying that Q1 is not a permanent incline not a projection?

>> No.33329711

>>33329380
>>33329503
how hard is for you guys to read
>>33325747

>> No.33329718

>>33329627
holofags false flagging as nijifans.
nijifans never shit on hololive. only holofags shit on hololive

>> No.33329739

>>33329575
because >>33329718 guy exists

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>>33329666
Go back.

>> No.33329764

>>33329711
We don't fall for nijinigger lies here, nice try though

>> No.33329770

>>33329718
>Actual corpo drone behavior
But i guess it is to be expected by nijiniggers

>> No.33329771

>>33329091
Ah so theyre trying to adjust their financial report to make it seem they are inclining. Nothing wrong with that since big successful companies do that all the time and considering Anycolor is the top company for vtubing then it just makes sense.

>> No.33329777

>>33329666
Because you are retarded. NIJISANJI still has a much larger amount of pie over nijien. What Nijien has over nijisanji is more revenue between each member. But why that happen? because nijisanji has 112 vtubers while en has 26. Over time, EN will get more vtubers and that difference will be smaller

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33329821

i dont think any anon looked at their other financial document outside of the presentation

>> No.33329831

>>33329755
See
>>33329567
NijiJP is irrelevant last samurai. NijiEN is carrying them when it comes to profit and no amount of holo dicksucking will ever change the fact that NijiEN is more competitive than NijiJP.

>> No.33329842

>>33329771
>>33329718
Behold, the reason why /#/ became an anti-niji thread

>> No.33329862

>>33329831

>> No.33329871
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So you folks are talking about numbers and all but can we discuss about how exposed armpits boost viewer retention instead?

>> No.33329875

>>33329821
So its a forecast then?

>> No.33329897

>>33329871
yeah lick

>> No.33329914

>>33329509
regis had to do a little push on-screen and i suppose off-screen to get nowa to play minecraft, thats what i was thinking about, talking and pushing about trying also other games outside of his comfort.

>> No.33329917

>>33329871
Armpits are shit
Reimu a shit
Worse 2hu

>> No.33329926

>>33329821
We looked at this before and settled that it was magic company numbers, then some nigger brought them up again.

>> No.33329953

>>33329871
I thinks her boobs need more bounce

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>>33329575
Because of all these sisters being rattled that they still can't get gold in both global and the paralympics

>> No.33330038

>>33329953
if moona's moonas start to jiggle susan will torch her channel in seconds, it's safer to post some naked yoga

>> No.33330051

>>33329953
Watame abused the bouncy boobs and it got banned

>> No.33330053

>>33329831
Ok so you are a retard.

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>fiscal numbers too hard, me only like CCV because it's easy to follow and understand
The absolute state of this shithole

>> No.33330134

>>33330053
>NijiEN getting more revenue than NijiJP per vtuber.
>Vox eclipsing any and all of Nijijp superchats.
Only one coping here are people who cant admit that NijiEN is carrying the Nijisanji brand even with only 1/4 the support NijiJP has.

>> No.33330145

>>33329831
>NijiJP is irrelevant
Say, did NijiCN stream get a 10k ccv on the 16th?

>> No.33330149

>>33330099
Oh no is no one believing you because you cried wolf one too many times? The horror

>> No.33330179

>>33330099
>>33329821
>imaginary fiscal numbers
ruru rumao

>> No.33330213

>>33329755
Riku's going to cash out and be long gone before Anykara fails to meet these projections.

>> No.33330226

>>33330145
>>33330099

>> No.33330233

>>33330099
>Believing cooked books
lemao

>> No.33330256

>ITT: anons that don't know how Fiscal Years work getting scammed by anons that think everyone in this thread doesn't know how Fiscal Years work
I'm honestly impressed someone tried. I'm just here reading and laughing at all of you being retarded.

>> No.33330267

>>33320357
yeah, but that's it, the only reason to do this is to harm that one person. it's petty. it's not like it's gonna stop people from saying that stuff, and she has millions of fans, a few antis probably wouldn't noticeably warp public opinion on her.

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>>33329871

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>>33330149
>>33330179
>>33330226
>>33330233

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>> No.33330389

>>33330256
>t. Anon that dont know how Fiscal Year works.

>> No.33330395

>>33330309
Anon, all you had to do was read the very document you're quoting and you wouldn't look like a retard for free. Even the retards that don't understand this shit knew better than to automatically take your words as gospel.

>> No.33330408

>>33330332
the only thing that i've learned today is that moona gold aren't good for my heart.

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>> No.33330426

real fuckin dead hours right now. only 2 streams on vrabi.

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>> No.33330504

>>33330426
HoloEU when? Ars can't tide me over the dead hours forever

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