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>> No.33243945

>>33243740
>intonation arrows
Does Mori really write lyrics with words she doesn't know how to properly intonate?
Also
>yo rat

>> No.33244094

>>33243740
>yo rrat!

>> No.33244137

>>33243740
What am I looking at here?

Also, Mori can't become an initiator of Final Yab, she's barely a vtuber

>> No.33244343
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33244343

>yo rat!

>> No.33244475

>>33243740
Are you shitting me, who taught her Japanese...

>> No.33244558
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33244558

>yo rat !

>> No.33244566

>>33243740
I fucking hate immigrants who refuse the learn the language of the country they have immigrated to.
>akshually i am not an immigrant i am an expat
take a bath with a toaster

>> No.33244633

>>33244566
fuck off retard nobody wants to learn your chinese knockoff alphabet lmao

>> No.33244636

>>33243740
> been in Japan for years.
> speaks worse Japanese than N5 warriors.
She's literally a one trick pony.

>> No.33244654

>>33244566
She is moving away to America soon.

>> No.33244698

>>33244475
Nobody. That's the problem.

>> No.33244719

It's not for pronunciation retards it's for the flow and internal rhyming. Dad knows Japanese.

>> No.33245066

>>33244719
then why does she talk like a stuttering retard in japanese

>> No.33245461

>>33244719
Not really she’s always been terrible with it. She can only speak Japanese as at a super basic level and it seems to have gotten worse over time

>> No.33245479

Someone teach her japanese

>> No.33245554

>>33243740
>Yo (r)rat
This will be legendary

>> No.33245576

>>33245461
>>33245066
show me your N1 certificates then you smartass faggots

>> No.33245599

>Knows Japanese
>Needs romaji lyrics

>> No.33245628

>>33244719
>flow and internal rhyming
I've yet to hear Mori grasp either in any language.

>> No.33245703

>>33245599
>>Knows Japanese

>> No.33245764

>>33245599
Her japanese is horrible is like when burger tourists go to mexico and attempt to speak spanish. Mori probably understand more Japanese when spoken to her than reading it or reciting it back to a person. She has what i call tourist Japanese.

>> No.33245817

>>33244475
Gikguk and Connor

>> No.33245866
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33245866

>>33244566
Go move to Japan and get paid for it too if you're that jealous. Pic related, Connor, Chinatown, Mexicans, etc. Are all based for bringing their culture over to other places and not giving it up

>> No.33246240

>>33245866
>Mexicans
If you mean Mexican/"latinx" immigrants in the US, they really don't keep their culture. Like all US immigrants descendants ("Italian", "Irish", "Mexican", "Chinese", etc.) they have a flanderized version of the culture more befiting of Disney than their "mother country" and people in Mexico and the rest of Latin America see them as larping yankees.

>> No.33246253

>>33245866
>learning a language makes you lose your culture
Ah hello there yank

>> No.33246517

>>33243740
What’s the yab here?

>> No.33246569

>>33246517
I lied, there's no yab.

>> No.33246592

>>33246569
based

>> No.33246645

>>33246569
you just went on the internet
and lied?

>> No.33246713

>>33245576
An N5 can read hiragana and katakana

>> No.33246733

>>33243740
Mori please for the love of god learn japanese. Wtf is the romanji lyrics

>> No.33246809

>>33243740
How does she even manage with romaji lyrics? I have very basic Japanese and reading kana+kanji is much easier than trying to understand romaji.

>> No.33247047

>>33246733
>>33246809
Apparently IRyS also does it.

>> No.33247081

>>33245576
My N4 ass doesn’t need romanji and understands the concept of pitch accent . I bet you can’t even tell how much better kiara, irys, and axel speak Japanese. Hell even anya and baelz who aren’t fluent or on the other 3s level still could pass an N1 test I bet calli can’t even pass N5

>> No.33247173

>>33243945
It can also be an indicator of the song notes?

>> No.33247185

>>33247081
Anya is better than Kiara though

>> No.33247229

>>33246809
I struggle to read romaji too. I don't get why they use it.

>> No.33247253

>>33245866
There's a difference between giving up your """culture""" and learning the language of the place you live, absolute retard.

>> No.33247677

>>33246809
Same principle as learning any other writing system, I guess. I got used to romaji over the years of learning song lyrics, and it reads not much harder than english. It was also quite easy to get into, unlike kana and kanji which I was too lazy of an arse to learn.

>> No.33247715 [DELETED] 

>>33246240
Can confirm. They're basically gringos to us.
t. Spic

>> No.33247817

>>33243740
Why isn't this in katakana and hiragana?

>> No.33247864

>>33246240
It's called assimilation and it's a good thing. More of them should actually learn English though.

>> No.33247883

>>33246517
She is leaking internal documents, just like Rushia. Graduation imminent.

>> No.33247891

>>33243945
>Does Mori really write lyrics with words she doesn't know how to properly intonate?
Yeah she uses japanese words sometimes. A language she can't speak on a functional level, let alone a fluent one.

>> No.33247913

>>33247081
Zeta and Reine mog Mori in Japanese. Risu might even give Mori trouble head to head.

>> No.33247944

>>33243945
Mori doesn’t write her own Japanese lyrics. Someone else writes them.

>> No.33248005

>>33247081
Anya is literally more japanese than the japanese threadreader.

>> No.33248028

>>33247677
Nvm kanji, but kana takes literally one or two days. And you won't ever forget it if you use it often, like you know, a person LITERALLY living in japan.

>> No.33248121

>>33246240
Some LITERALLY came straight from there.

>> No.33248159

>>33247913
shit I forgot about the rest of ID but you are right hell lofi's is really good too. I guess to the random normie fans though the fact that mori lives in japan makes them think shes super good at japanese. Hell I bet even olllie could beat her on a head to head

>> No.33248165

>>33243740
This is pretty easy to understand though?
>She used pencil first time, either she or someone else had to correct her correction in orange
>underline letters are to accent on beat
>up/down arrows to indicate intonation (because she obviously kept fucking it up)
>slash to indicate breaks to not slur/string the pronunciation because she kept fucking up "kie" as "kyeh" and instead of "ki-eh"
>arrow under Sono to drag out pronunciation instead of making it 1 beat

>> No.33248209

>live in Japan for years
>still terrible at the language

>> No.33248235

>>33248165 (me)
the pencil/orange correction might be the other way around, I was being generous that she didn't fuck it up that bad at first but maybe her orange markings were so wrong it had to be redone with more details in pencil, and then put brackets around the verses to go home and practice it because it sounds like shit.

>> No.33248251

>>33243740
Wow Mori is a tea drinker? Disgusting

>> No.33248273

>>33247864
The ones that don't speak English are the first wave immigrants which isn't what he is describing. Second wave immigrants are the faggots that guy is referring to, and they always speak English and virtually never spanish despite acting like latino caricatures.

>> No.33248392

>>33248273
what gen is Filian?
degen

>> No.33248505

>>33248235
im also trying to be generous in hoping that calli is just confused on why the way she is saying the words are wrong and its not that she doesnt understand pitch accent

>> No.33248553

>>33247047
irys is dumb and cute enough for me to not care

>> No.33248591

>>33248028
it's a little different when doing singing lyrics vs daily menu reading

>> No.33248614

>>33248251
I'll waterboard you with tea until you like it.

>> No.33248641

>>33248553
Why do you care when Mori does it?

>> No.33248845

>>33248028
True, Calliope Mori-san has pretty much no excuse having lived there for... how many years now? I reckon many common kanji could be learned purely by osmosis in that time.

>> No.33248913

>>33243740
Who the hell knows what system she used for marking up lyric sheets. This is someone who just uses mouth noises to present an idea for a beat. Or who writes a song out super quick, to the point that a few were rushed and she said she wished she thought it through better. A real dork with ADHD who puts things in her head and makes them reality even if no one else understands the process.

>> No.33249893

>>33245866
Fuck off
https://youtu.be/YD76XB7Arvc
Even swede puts more effort

>> No.33250017

>>33246713
And selected kanji

>> No.33250185

>>33248641
Because she lives in Japan and acts like Nigerian immigrant

>> No.33250309

>>33244137
pitch accent i guess ?

>> No.33250354

>>33244475
anime

>> No.33250463
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I'm... I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be angry at here.

>> No.33250723

>supposedly living in japan, for years in fact
>still using fucking romanji

What an absolute failure of an human being

>> No.33250781

>>33250723
it's song lyrics, that's something you write by syllables even in english

>> No.33250857

>>33250463
Who knows. These people have nothing so they must force these things. I don't know why they just don't take a break and wait until Mori finishes her break.

>> No.33250899

>>33250781
That's some high quality copium you got there bro, care to share?

>> No.33251065

>>33250463
I think you might be taking this site too seriously anon, you don't need a grand reason to make or post in a thread

>> No.33251082

>>33250899
https://cdn3.virtualsheetmusic.com/images/first_pages/HL/HL-353780First_BIG_1.png
I googled "song lyrics" and found this in 15 seconds. You write by syllables so it goes along with the music.

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>>33251082

>> No.33251248

>>33251082
https://musescore.com/user/10477211/scores/2662681
Surely you understand what we're talking about here

>> No.33251351

>>33251166
>>33251248
and why wouldn't you keep everything as simple as possible inside a recording booth? This is a different situation than normal life. You are obsessed with stay angry over invalid reasons.

>> No.33251542

>>33251065
I, too, also love to pretend I am retarded, anon. That doesn't make it any less retarded.

>> No.33251649

>>33251351
>and why wouldn't you keep everything as simple as possible inside a recording booth?
Reading japanese in romaji is honestly worse than just reading it raw, it's only easier for Mori because she can't read japanese... after being in japan and singing in japanese for years already
I kind of understand expats staying in the expat bubble and never learning japanese, but mori makes fucking lyrics in japanese and still needs to read in romaji, it's ridiculous

>> No.33251660 [DELETED] 

>>33251351
>why wouldn't you keep everything as simple as possible inside a recording booth?
You almost figured out why people are making fun of the wigger.
>invalid reasons.
Twitter is consuming your brain.

>> No.33251698

>>33250463
It's got to be the "yo rat!", right?

>> No.33251782

>>33251660
>You almost figured out why people are making fun of the wigger
Seems more like some anons are genuinely angry.

>> No.33252034

>>33251649
>Reading japanese in romaji is honestly worse than just reading it raw
I agree.
>it's only easier for Mori because she can't read japanese
You're making a lot of assumptions here, though.

>> No.33252163

>>33251351
One thing to keep it simple, another thing to bitch about the language of the country you're residing in. The language in which the song you're about to sing is. Whoever made the intonation notes put effort in it so that your gaijin ass doesn't sound completely foreign, in your turn please make some effort too.

>> No.33252231

>>33251649
she can read kanji, she isn't because this is a specific recording booth situation. You are looking for reasons to be upset.

>> No.33252288

>>33252163
When was she bitching about it?

>> No.33252324

>>33252163
How isn't that song intonation instead of speaking intonation?

>> No.33252397

>>33252034
It's pretty much a fact that she's N5 in japanese

>> No.33252652
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33252652

>>33250723
>>33250899
Anonchama...

>> No.33252668

>>33252231
allow me to doubt that she can read the basic 2200 kanji, in context

>> No.33252702

>>33248614
Fuck off Bri*sh

>> No.33252739

>>33252231
You mean this one?

>> No.33252839

>>33252668
well allow me to guess that she can and us both to never know the truth.

>> No.33252856

>>33252652
IT DON'T COUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.33252863

>>33252397
I'm not sure what your point is. If we're talking about reading, even N5 can read Japanese.

>> No.33252936

>>33252231
>she can read kanji
Meaningless statement, the question is how many words she knows
So you don't say I'm making shit up I just searched for a japanese only stream for her reading marshmellows, she had to ask chat a ton of times the reading of kanjis and she didn't know 自身, which is pretty common and simple.
Also talking about something else 自身 is the perfect example of why you shouldn't use romaji, you wouldn't be able to tell if it's that or 自信, which you should care if you're supposedly the one making these songs

>> No.33252939

>>33247081
>romanji
n6 spotted

>> No.33252999

>>33252324
I suppose you're right, jp songs can sometimes sacrifice correct pronounciation to fit the flow. In that case, I'd expect a veteran music person Calliope-san to know what it's about.
>>33252288
In the OP post. My bad if it's actually about the song and not the language, although the effort point stands. Little proffesionalism on her part also wouldn't hurt, discuss confusing parts with your team, not the twitters.

>> No.33253028

>>33252936
She doesn't write her japanese lyrics, she has said this as she wants to make sure they're correct. She advises on subject matter but uses other people to write them. That has nothing to do with using romaji in a recording booth.

>> No.33253077

>>33252999
You're being pretty dramatic if you call that bitching.

>> No.33253102

>>33252397
honestly at this point she might be lower

>> No.33253113

>>33252999
I don't see any bitching about japanese. I see someone mentioning they were recording and noticing how many different scribbles they made on a piece of paper. Big stretch to bring that to mean "I think Japanese is bad"

>> No.33253121

>>33252231
>>33252936
Forgot to add, she had to double take and ask everytime if 入ってる was hai- or i-, which is a common problem with beginners but again, she's been making japanese songs for years already

>> No.33253191

Say what you want about mori, but she has natural talents in the japanese art of sumo

>> No.33253677

>>33243945
The weird thing is that Japanese contemporary music usually forgoes all the rules, sometimes even they can't tell wtf is being said because traditional pronunciation is usually out the window hence why every cd has a lyric book
This is just autistic

>> No.33253749

>>33253121
>she's been making japanese songs for years already
That's a pretty misleading statement. Her songs are English with bits of Japanese mixed in here and there.

>> No.33254423

Always weird to see how musicians that can't read sheet music get by. Just make a proper lead sheet lmao

>> No.33254609

>>33254423
>musicians that can't read sheet music
How the fuck does this even happen? It's about as easy as learning the alphabet.

>> No.33254832

>>33254423
Mori can read sheet music though, she's played saxophone and bass. And a tiny bit of piano, not enough to qualify but yeah she can read sheet music.

>> No.33255903

>>33243945
retard
its not about properly intonating them but about the best way to intonate for her and the specific song.

>> No.33256035

>>33243740
You have to be autistic beyond saving to read romaji, get the fucking furigana/hiragana

>> No.33256562

>>33247081
Bro even a japanese comedian said that Anyer speaks better japanese than Miko. She's even more knowledgeable on kanji reading than Mel.

>> No.33256643

>>33248121
And you can see why they left.

>> No.33258806

>>33243740
So that's how Americans try to understand pitch accent and stress of words.

>> No.33259291

>>33256035
this is so bizarre. I'm a mega beginner at Japanese and barely know 1500 words, and even for me hiragana is WAY easier to read than Japanese transliterated into romaji

>> No.33261217

>>33258806
I'm American and just learn it by listening to Japanese speak, as Mori should be doing. Problem is, she won't speak Japanese in everyday life so the pitches and tone never sticks.

>> No.33264310

>>33243740
I don't get it

>> No.33264417

>>33264310
>bumping your shitty thread from page 10
Pathetic OP.

>> No.33264459

>>33259291
>Japanese transliterated into romaji
To be fair that is because romaji is written like it was designed by a literal retard, using a Latin alphabet while refusing to use Latin diacritics like acute or grave accents.

>> No.33264626

>>33243740
>yo rrat
Foreshadowing...?

>> No.33265025

>>33252652
I will ignore this, my nigga in Christ. I am literally programmed to hate Mori Calliope Hololive English -Myth-

>> No.33265371

>>33252652
...but my narrative

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>>33252652
holy kek

>> No.33273537

>>33243945
You're a fucking moron, it's for the sake of the song.
You do this in Chinese songs too by the way, completely forgoing the proper tone for the sake of the melody.

>> No.33273652

>>33244566
I don't even know how she hasn't been deported yet because Japan actually requires you to show willingness to learn the language if you live there for an extended period of time.

>> No.33273811

>>33273652
Given her body condition it has to be cash or dirt on some officials.

>> No.33274050

>>33273652
Can you stop lying on /vt/?
As long as you're employed, you can renew residency every year. There's tens of thousands of immigrants who speak N6 Japanese for their entire lives, the so called expat bubbles.

>> No.33276845

>>33256562
Meru..

>> No.33277450

>>33244094
>>33243945
>>33244343
>>33244558
>>33245554
>>33251698
>>33264626
ogey

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