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>hehe shit
https://twitter.com/NinaKosaka/status/1568692787943542784
>Main account meme
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_world/status/1568596788818628611

Hope you're ready

>> No.32905466

I am prepared to post
>30,000 applicants
once more. The march goes on.

>> No.32905570

So this is the "gamers" thing, right?

>> No.32905599

>>32905570
Yes all male gamer wave

>> No.32905636

>>32905411
>another gen
Evidently NijiEN is on a quest to make the entirety of Southeast Asia into fucking vtubers, christ.

>> No.32905644
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32905644

Yes....
Announce them....
You definitely won't get overshadowed or anything like you did to Hololive, not at all....

>> No.32905696

>>32905466
>30,000 applicants
>Somehow Iluna was the best they got
Grim

>> No.32905731

>>32905696
they hire people with clout, that about seems it past the women

>> No.32905749

>>32905411
Jesas some of the Iluna members are already entering 3view territory fucking stop

>> No.32905766

>>32905696
They're trying to perfect cloning technology given Maria is Rosemi 2. They're still figuring out Vox 2 and Selen 2 though.

>> No.32905800

>>32905411
You think they'd learn at this point, but NOPE.

>> No.32905923

>>32905749
The stragglers are left to writhe in irrelevance, for it is the Nijisanji way. Only the strong survive.

>> No.32905966

>>32905570
It feels way too early for Gamers. If anything it’s probably going to be Iluna’s counterparts, just like Lazulight/Obsydia and Luxiem/Noctyx.
I’m not looking forward to it, especially if we get more underwhelming livers doing the same shit Iluna is in terms of games. And it’s not like those 50-70k viewers they’ll probably get on debut will even stick around.

>> No.32905975

>>32905411
Iluna literally just debuted

>> No.32906014

>Wave 7

lol
lmao

>> No.32906018

>>32905975
Obsydia came out like a month after Lazulight I'm pretty sure
They debut fast

>> No.32906060

>>32905411
Now that there's a wider audience that watches NijiEN, and they're starting to get a taste for Nijisanji's methods, I hope we'll start seeing more people openly shitting on this rapid fire approach.

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>>32905411
Can't wait for everyone besides Enna and luxiem to become 2 views because of how hard they're diluting their viewership base.
Some of them are already 3 views outside of collabs.

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>>32905975
Anon... This is Nijisanji

>> No.32906263

Man, you really don't get much time to settle in and find your audience before a new generation is right behind you. Sounds like a fucking nightmare.

>> No.32906307

>>32906263
>>32906263
Not to mention that you basically get dropped to fend for yourself if you aren't doing numbers, so your only choice is to leech off the bigger members or just get used to being barely above an indie

>> No.32906334

Sana will be here

>> No.32906375

>>32906334
She'll finally get her dream of only streaming Genshin and Arknights forever.

>> No.32906414
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32906414

I trust in Riku's plan. ACCELERATION unironically works. Anycolor makes more money than Cover.

>> No.32906416

>>32905411
who the fuck has been asking for MORE nijis

>> No.32906525

>>32906416
this guy apparently>>32906414

>> No.32906570

>>32906414
Yeah but why should I give a shit about the company over the talents? Complete global saturation is only good for the soulless suits at the top.

>> No.32906606

>>32905411
They're accelerating alright. Accelerating downwards, towards the ground to a fiery crash. Guess they're trying to see if they can have stable sub-300 viewer streamers this time around.

>> No.32906619
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32906619

>>32906414
Nature respects the strong, and paints the snow red with the blood of the weak.

ACCELERATE.

>> No.32906639

>>32905749
They don't care. It's also why even if some of the talents they have are fine, I'll never watch them.

>> No.32906696

>>32906619
Selen's CCV started dropping. You should be careful what you ask for.

>> No.32906724

>>32905411
ANOTHER ONE!?

>> No.32906729

>>32906375
Hey, don't forget Pokemon. She can actually play ANY of the games whenever she wants, and doesn't have to deal with that "only the most recent game, and only for a limited time, then never again" bullshit. She can also play DS/3DS games, which opens the door to loads more Kirby.

>> No.32906733

Hello, Nijisanji? I still haven't received an email I was accepted into the roster. You are losing a lot by not picking me. I woule have been the next Gura.

>> No.32906773

>>32906570
It's also good for the people that got in as most of them wouldn't be able to if not for the debut spam.

>> No.32906789

>>32906733
The good news is as long as you keep applying you'll eventually make it in, since we'll have a couple hundred Niji generations by the end of 2023.

>> No.32906816

>>32906696
Selen's smart. She hyperfixates on the ENs that make huge numbers. She'll just continue to chase the successful ones.

>> No.32906825

>>32906334
I'm more likely to believe she'll join Vshojo than NijiEn.

>> No.32906840
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>>32906696
>buckbreaks numberniggers with a 55k outfit reveal
Yeah, nah. My oshi will survive and rise to the top. If you have picked a weak horse, you're better off tending to her than trying to drag others down to her level.

>> No.32906847

Do they have over 200 talents already?

>> No.32906859

>>32906789
I hope so. To be a shining star in the greyish and boring Nijisanji members, that is my dream.

>> No.32906931

>>32906840
>wanting your oshi to drag out outfit reveals for an hour just to maximize numbers
you might just be a numberfag too anon

>> No.32906944

Kinda funny how retards still believe that new waves will "kill the others" when EVERY SINGLE TIME it has been proven that everyone else gets more exposure when a new wave arrives (except Finana but she's in a crusade to see how much she can fuck up her channel)

>> No.32906958

>>32906840
Shame that outfit buff is already gone. Truly grim. Maybe Luxiem can give her some scraps if you ask the boys nicely.

>> No.32906981

>>32906570
Because Iluna is going to stay small regardless if they release a new wave or not, so what's the issue in releasing a new one?

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32907027

>>32906931
>wanting your oshi to drag out outfit reveals for an hour
But that was fucking great, though? I watched the whole thing riveted to my stream. God I love my Commander of SEX. She NEEDS to stop shaving.

>> No.32907067

>>32906944
NijiEN unironically has an increasing number of sub 1k streamers that are trending DOWN for solo content. It's going to look like JP at this rate - bloated with failing vtubers.

>> No.32907087

>>32906570
you know that more talents means more choice for (you) right?? like more people in Nijisanji is not gonna make your oshi to stop streaming

>> No.32907093

>>32906570
If theres enough chubas for each and everyone one of us we will achieve world peace

>> No.32907167

>>32906570
based

>> No.32907182

>>32907093
>If theres enough chubas for each and everyone one of us we will achieve world peace
Unicorns will never know peace. We can't coexist with (You).

>> No.32907196

>>32906958
Luxwho? Reclining into irrelevancy. Shu and Vox in a collab today couldn't beat Enna rebroadcasting her EN karaoke. Embarrassing.

>> No.32907203

I know it is crazy to Holobros but in Niji you can just watch whoever you feel like watching. If you don't like someone, it's ok, no need to watch. Plenty of other stuff going on. In fact they produce more content than you can consume anyway.

>> No.32907273

>>32907087
>>32907093
they don't make their livers out of nowhere. these people were already making content in the internet and the last few waves didn't expand nijiEN

>> No.32907333

>>32906108
Ah, the famous "diluting viewership base" holocope. Never gets old.
In the meantime, every single NijiEN member grew their fanbase and average ccv with time, except for those who sabotage their own growth. Can't say the same for HoloEN.

>> No.32907343

>>32907203
>In fact they produce more content than you can consume anyway.
Chinks like you need to be hanged by the toes and bleed out like the pigs you are.

>> No.32907439

>>32905570
They want to distance the new wave from the Luxiem's fanbase as much as possible so they make "gaymer" a thing eventhough, all of them are streaming game everyday anyway

>> No.32907537

>>32906570
>Yeah but why should I give a shit about the company over the talents?
Nigger, Anycolor gets more money than Cover, Niji's top talents get more money than Holo's top talents, Niji's bottom talents get more money than Holo's bottom talents.
You don't even need to do much to see it for yourself. Look at previous anon's numbers and then go to socialblade and see individual talent income for yourself.

>> No.32907547

>>32905749
There're plenty of 3view nijiJP so they don't care, sink or swim, work youself to the top, it isn't communist paradise

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32907629

>>32906334
She is in good hand, bro

>> No.32907641

>>32907537
do you have any proof of the talents income or are you just basing this off scs

>> No.32907643

>>32906840
>buckbreaks numberniggers with a 55k outfit reveal
Not just 55k, but 55k during NA timeslot.

>> No.32907647

>>32907343
Bro, I'm sorry for you that the talents in the branch you stuck with only stream like twice a week, but it isn't anyone here's fault. You'd be better off redirecting that anger here:
https://cover-corp.com/contact/en/#lang

>> No.32907657

>>32907067
why do you lie??? All the girls but Nina and Finana have inclined

>> No.32907682

>>32906570
This isn't your communist paradise, brony.

>> No.32907697

>>32905466
And ill continue calling you a cuck as all your girls fall to tempus.

>> No.32907706

>>32907333
Nigga a bunch of them are literal 3 views and you can't deny it. Finana in particular must be nervous because she might not be making enough money in the future to have vtubing as her only job.

>> No.32907720

>>32907273
they did though. The girls incline, the events get more and more CCV and why do you care?? It's not like you watch them anyway

>> No.32907753

>>32907706
You realize being a 3 view is more than enough to live off that shit right?

>> No.32907827

>>32907641
Dear blind anon. In my post I wrote exactly what you need to do in order to achieve that.
But just to spoonfeed you - /#/ were seething for 10 month straight about niji chuubas getting more monthly superchats than holos. Just go there and check out one or two monthly tallies.

>> No.32907832

>>32905749
ID has/had people streaming to literal 2 digits, they "helped" them by nuking the branch, you think they'll stop to help iluna?

>> No.32907898

>>32907827
They stopped keeping track of that shit cause of Vox. Its great.

>> No.32907899

>>32907827
>But just to spoonfeed you - /#/ were seething for 10 month straight about niji chuubas getting more monthly superchats than holos. Just go there and check out one or two monthly tallies.
>>superchats
>>>superchats
>>>>superchats
>>>>>superchats
you stupid motherfucker

>> No.32907903

based, the more nijiEN the faster the concept of wave identity will evaporate just like it did in nijiJP

>> No.32907931

>>32907657
Nina kind of declined too, but its mostly because she ran out of people to fly herself to for offcolabs.

>> No.32907936

>>32907706
tell me who?? cause Finana was the lowest at 1400, if you wanna talk about numbers show them

>> No.32907959

>>32907706
>shitty streamer with shitty attitude is at the bottom place as they should be
Meritocracy is what makes the world goes forward, only libtard simp would be mad over it.

>> No.32907966

>>32907903
Bronies talking about niji like they know anything is my favorite part about new wave seething.

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32908000

>>32906958
>Luxiemshart
They are reclining hard and the worst part is that TEMPUS is more entertaining than Luxiem while having the Holostars "debuff"

>> No.32908017

>>32907706
>except for those who sabotage their own growth
looks like you were seething too much to read my post thoroughly, because Finana did exactly that. And among other 3views - those are only weakest ones from iluna. And let me remind you that every single ethyria also went below 3view mark for a good period of time before inclining. And yes, including Enna, who casually mogs most of HoloEN these days.

>> No.32908060

>>32908000
>Continue crushing holowhores in supas
Yea declning, ANY DAY NOW GUYS, LUIXIEM IS FINISHED

>> No.32908095

>>32907203
Did you miss the part where people were crying over low numbers in their leaked discord? If they aren't getting much on their end as each new wave thins the fanbase further, what would make you think they'd stick around? For the love it? If they wanted that they'd stay indie.

>> No.32908094

>>32905749
And? Enna was in 3 view territory too but now she's one of the top vtuber in nijiEN. It's law of the strongest it doesn't matter if Illuna can't keep up, some of them will incline while others will recline into irrelevancy.

>> No.32908096

>>32907898
Hahaha, I love that shit too. Every time Niji start to rape holo in some metric, /#/ "suddenly" stops posting this metric even though they did it constantly before.

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32908153

>>32908060
True!
Females gave lot of money to Shu, who is boring as fuck and only do collabs
Ike barely stream compared to others yet they still give him money
If these faggots weren't on Luxiem, they would get Iluna numbers

>> No.32908162

>>32908095
>Did you miss the part where people were crying over low numbers in their leaked discord?
post them then

>> No.32908200

I hope this has a girl with twintails. That is all.

>> No.32908215

>>32908153
>Moved the goalposts already
Sad!

>> No.32908274

>>32908215
>Femoid have no counterpoint for their boring males
The only entertaining male there is Mysta, I'm sorry that you like mediocrity

>> No.32908283

>>32907899
>you stupid motherfucker
Looks like you are speaking to yourself right now, because there is no way anyone can know how much they get from any other sources of income. Of course you can talk about those merch cope-tables posted in /#/ which are pulled out of holokek assholes, but you'll be only laughed at if you do.
In other words - according to only transparent income sources, Niji talents absolutely mog holos.

>> No.32908285

You know, I'd be more sympathetic to the whole 'Quantity over Quality' diatribe if not for the fact that NijiEN's main competitor have a chronic phobia of streaming, barely seem to like their fans, play the same handful of games and provide fake 3D performances because no one is willing to pay money to go to a very much open Japan to record anything themselves.

So fuck it. I'd rather have some be unappealing to me than to wait a whole year for 5 new 'cream of the crop' HoloEN members only for them to end up like fucking Council.

>> No.32908350

>>32906307
It probably was a dream relatively early on, but it grew too fast and its blatantly obvious Anykara has no clue what they're doing.
Thank fuck there's giftable memberships at least, otherwise all that audience money would evaporate quick.

>> No.32908373

>>32908274
You started arguing about numbers then veered into entertainment value which is entirely subjective.
You have no argument, you're just grasping at straws.
>>32908285
Go watch Gura's last stream, she said the "game permission guys is out of comission" whatever the fuck that means.

>> No.32908386

>>32908283
so your basing this knowledge on something we know the talents dont get the amount and nothing else
good job retard

>> No.32908441

>>32907899
If they can casually throw money at Luxiem to the top ranking then their merch buying power will be off the chart too, your idolwhores can't complete with Vox

>> No.32908446

>>32908373
Read the first comment, i compared them to TEMPUS because they are more entertaining while being smaller than them
Read nigger, READ

>> No.32908487

>>32905696
There's an 100% chance that they automatically filter out any numbers below a certain threshold so they don't have to dig through everything

>> No.32908502

>>32905411
These are the iluna rejects, right?
That is, what noctyx is to luxiem?
This really does not bode well

>> No.32908541

>>32908373
>she said the "game permission guys is out of comission"
what? but tempus keep getting permissions for a bunch of games though?

>> No.32908549

>>32906570
I don't have any Wesker reaction images but I want to let you know I appreciated that.

>> No.32908601

>>32908502
Noctyx is better than luxiem so these might be better too

>> No.32908642

>>32905749
They get over 30,000 likes per twitter post shut the fuck up

>> No.32908644

>>32908386
First, learn English before starting and argument with someone. Your posts are not coherent. Are all holokeks like that?
Second, I am basing my knowledge on a completely transparent sources of information - youtube's superchat amounts. If you are bringing out other non-transparent sources and pull numbers from your ass, then it's you being a complete retard.

>> No.32908652

>>32908373
>game permission guys is out of comission.
The fuck? What do they even have managers for?

>> No.32908674

>>32908541
Holostars has different management than Hololive IIRC. Since Yagoo loves them and Stars is his pet project, he's probably going to put the most amount of effort into them.

>> No.32908675

>>32908373
If Gura said that it probably means they literally have no management actively trying to secure them permissions for the games they want.

And why would they? More permissions = more chance of playing something that isn't HoloCure or RUST, and that isn't good for metrics!

>> No.32908694

You know I scratch my head every time someone mentions "the bottom of niji" beating anything from any other company but then I remember that this is an EOP board and when they say Niji they mean NijiEN and when they say Hololive they mean HololiveEN
If you join VSPO you're automatically in a better position than half of Niji, Niji has both some of the top hitters in the industry and also people should just go work as a burger flippers instead

>> No.32908729

>>32908386
Have some of these
''''',,,,,.....

>> No.32908936

>>32908446
>ompared them to TEMPUS because they are more entertaining
Great argument dude "your opinion"

>> No.32908990

>>32908936
Still better than "Selen will have to beg for the males for viewers"
Now go back to your yaoi fantasies, femoid

>> No.32909006

>>32908502
By that logic council are the myth rejects and EN 3 are gonna worst
This really does not bode well

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32909103

Nijisanji is meritocracy chad
Hololive is commie box-pusher
Learn the difference

>> No.32909109

>>32908642
Anon, Twitter likes are worthless.

>> No.32909180

>>32909109
This.
Finana for example gets tons of likes on her posts. Same as Aster from Iluna, but that doesn't translate into actual views.
At the current rate it'd be a miracle if NijiEN doesn't burn out some of its own viewers with the sheer amount of debutspam there is.

>> No.32909233

>>32909109
He is baiting retard

>> No.32909235

>>32905766
>Selen 2
please no, one selen is already too much

>> No.32909269

>>32905696
We already know they never looked at any of the auditions. The people that auditioned show the unlisted audition video that has 1 view and they only watched 14 seconds of it

>> No.32909355

>>32909235
Selen is unique and hard to replicate though
Besides... "Rosemi 2" turned out to be... not so good compared to Rosemi

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32909399

>ITT: Holocommunists

>> No.32909420

>>32907657
iluna is getting shit on and a number of the other girls are declining outside of collabs. Even Luxiem is coming down from its high. Raids don't do a good job obscuring the bleeding.

>> No.32909452

>>32909006
No, this is a purely nijisanji phenomenon
They recruit a group of candidates at once, then rapidly debut them in waves a month or so apart from each other
There was a lot of speculation that noctyx were the luxiem rejects, considering how much they underperformed compared to luxiem
This is in contrast to pretty much every other corp, where each gen/group is interviewed/recruited/debuted separately, usually by several months (sometimes nearly 2 years in the case of hololive)

>> No.32909491

>>32909006
The idea is they're the rejects because they're too close together. It isn't possible to have gone through another recruiting and preparation cycle.
Retard.

>> No.32909495

Incredible how every thread that's not a general evolve into numberfaggotry, when will this shit become bannable?

>> No.32909562

>>32909355
Sequels rarely are.

>> No.32909697

>>32905411
How many of these """"EN"""" will be Filipino this time around? Gotta be at least half.

>> No.32909819

>>32907067
>It's going to look like JP at this rate - bloated with failing vtubers.
This isn't hololive, friend. People join Niji because they want to do vtubing as a hobby and have a support system backing them, not because they're expecting to self-sustain from it.

>> No.32909830

>>32909495
Because they do this for a living and Anycolor throws them to the wolves.

>> No.32909879

>>32909495
they will have to ban /NijiEN/ then, since they keep numberfagging in their general

>> No.32909889

>>32909819
That's your own projection.

>> No.32909946

>>32909879
if the numberfaggots stopped getting assblasted about nijien getting good numbers then maybe the raids would stop, its been almost a week and there's still people butthurt about enna on the catalog

>> No.32909991

>>32909006
Funny thing is that CouncilRys has actually inclined on average while Myth has reclined (mostly due to Mori and Kiara, Gura is still as untouchable as ever)

>> No.32910092

>>32909819
>People join Niji because they want to do vtubing as a hobby and have a support system backing them, not because they're expecting to self-sustain from it.
You're full of shit, anyone joining nijiJP right now is chasing the big leagues and is guaranteed the big leagues because, ironically, they stopped churning them out at mach speed. The only ones that fits your description are the ID and KR branch, but the "support" is non-existent for them in this case and the niji brand might as well be poison

>> No.32910095

>>32909420
where are the numbers to back up your claim??
All average CCV have gone up across the board and average CCV denies any Raid cope you are using

>> No.32910206

>>32905411
There was a wave 6? There was a wave 5?

>> No.32910245

>>32908095
So I need to watch every vtuber in the world because I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings? Yeah sure, let's go watch some lazy cunt I hate because she is the only one streaming rn, just like Holobros do.

>> No.32910253

>>32909991
retard

>> No.32910298

>>32910253
very convincing

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32910307

>auditioned for the niji gamers
>no view from them yet on the video
>potential teaser for wave 7
well thats one way of finding out

>> No.32910317

>>32910298
burden of proof is on you dumbfuck, you made the claim.

>> No.32910385

>>32910307
No, the gamers are wave 8. Wave 7 are from the same auditions as wave 6 if they're like the previous ones

>> No.32910432

>>32910307
gamers won't be wave 7, this one is from the same pool as iluna

>> No.32910436

>>32909946
>Retard spams Enna
>Claims other people are making them do it so they're going to keep raiding and spamming.
Neck yourself.

>> No.32910491

>>32910095
You don't need to lie, anon. Sites like vrabi are accessible to everyone.

>> No.32910602

>>32910491
still not showing up the numbers and making excuses, what's next gonna move goalpost?

>> No.32910669

>>32910602
The irony of that from someone claiming there has been an incline.

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>>32910385
>>32910432
ah so i still have a chance (albeit a small one.) cheers lads.

>> No.32910863

>>32910602
not claiming, it's the truth i remember the numbers, i saw them and went "Huh, only Nina and Finana didn't incline, all the others girls have inclined this year", but not that you don't care, you'll say i'm lying but i'm not the one making shit up so my consciences is clear
You keep trying to deny reality idc

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>>32905466
>>32905696
Tbf, Anycolor doesn't even have half the staff cover does. How in the world can they sift through 30k(if that is true) + they need to pump their talents faster so they really have no choice but to half-ass the recruitment process via 100k sub cutoff. It's just inevitable that some of them really don't fit their avatars and absolutely suck ass as entertainers

>> No.32911066

>>32908094
Enna was smart to squeeze her way in to be the waiting room and the trash collector of Luxiem by streaming before and after them.

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>>32910317
Myth used to be higher - they dropped when Gura and Ina streamed less and the others (mostly Mori and Kiara) spammed debuff games

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>>32910095
This only provides a branch-level overview rather than individuals, but post-debut iluna has pretty much stopped niji EN's momentum
Not even all the buff streams they had in August (koshien, outfit debuts, karaoke relay, etc.) could counteract the iluna debuff

>> No.32912360

>>32905411
>Literally a month after the auditions were announced
what the fuck, were the auditions even real?

>> No.32912422

>>32905749
Riku doesn't care. That's why they have two fewer branches now.

>> No.32912448

>>32911583
Live A Live + Vallhalla combo is channel poison.

>> No.32912468

>>32912360
as stated in the thread, the gamer auditions are wave 8. this is like...iluna 2.0

>> No.32912537

>>32912468
Ah I see, thanks

>> No.32912567

>>32907333
There are tens of Nijis that are low 3-views and maybe even some 2-views. This is just straight up mistreatment of people. But you bugs don't care about that.

>> No.32912685

>>32905411
2 POKEMON GENERATIONS OF CHUBAS LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.32912945

>>32906414
Reminder that Niji with its hundreds of talents is making only 3.66% more than Hololive. The variance in profit is just Niji paying half of admin expenses compared to Holo. This means Niji are barely paying for managers and staff. Truly a black company.

>> No.32912985

>>32909495
the jannies all come from THAT place and will ban you if you point out the real problem

>> No.32913025

>>32908283
Congratulations on being good little paypigs? Why are you proud of this? Nijifags are mentally ill. Truly bugmen.

>> No.32913081

>>32909495
Ban the Nijifags then. All they care about is numbers. They care about literally nothing else.

>> No.32913209

lotta holocope for nijis winning. Can't even stay consistent if nijis care about numbers or not lmao

>> No.32913386

>>32913209
What's inconsistent? Which post in this thread claims Nijis don't care about numbers? All Nijis care about is numbers. Every thread that involves a Niji devolves into numberfagging.

>> No.32913429

>>32913081
nice try but it only takes a single look at the numberniggas containment to see its actually the nijisanji anti general, no wonder every time someone from nijisanji gets nice numbers they try to burn the catalog down

>> No.32913519

>>32913386
yeah because holobronies can't stand it when they're proven they're losing despite indos shilling holo for free and spouting vtuber lies for 2 years

>> No.32913550

>>32913386
>Every thread that involves a Niji devolves into numberfagging
well no shit, this is the holoboard and all the holodrones are numberfags, you try making a thread about anyone from nijisanji and most of the replies are
>NUMBERS THO? LMAO NO NUMBERS
>IF NUMBERS THEN BOTS LOL

>> No.32913692

>>32913429
If this were leddit, you'd be able to see I've railed against /#/ multiple times and pushed for its banning. Doesn't take away from the fact that all Nijis care about is numbers. See: this thread.

>>32913519
Losing what, fuckhead? Riku being able to afford a penthouse versus a month's delay for Yagoo? What's your mental illness?

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>>32913692
>if this were leddit
>holobronies are fucking redditors
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>> No.32914218

>>32913692
it's holobronies bringing up numbers to prove niji is failing and they get proven wrong like always. Cry about it

>> No.32914278

>>32914128
I see you ceded the point that you're insufferable numberfags.

>>32914218
If you're talking about /#/, just kill yourself. You're all worthless roaches.

>> No.32914289

>>32906414
How is Niji so huge but has so much less operation costs than Cover. How are they able to maintain such a huge number of staff and livers?

>> No.32914543

>>32914289
If you actually care for the answer? A very tight and efficient operation. Sometimes too tight - see Niji KR imploding because they outsourced the management.

Cover has the opposite problem where the management has blown up into this huge monstrous tumor, and they're spending $$$ on developing vanity projects like gacha games and HoloError.

>> No.32914585

>>32914289
the less active livers had 1 manager on a lot of people and from the twitcasts i listened to it didn't seem to change when they became more active
the only thing that changed is that they could barely get a response because the manager was too busy

>> No.32914739

>>32907537
Nijis bottom talents literally have two digit viewcounts

>> No.32914829

>>32914543
>they're spending $$$ on developing vanity projects like gacha games and HoloError.
That's the only part of your post that is demonstratably true and not baseless speculation

>> No.32914938

>>32905411
is nijien going to fuck itself over the same way nijijp did where it oversaturates the market leaving a handful of actual successes and an ocean of failures? not to mention all that fucking interpersonal drama.
You'd have thought they'd have learned after the most recent jp wave and salome being successes after a long gap between the last wave released

>> No.32915034

>>32914938
they don't actually give a shit if they have an ocean of failures if the few successes outweigh them

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>>32914938
>Pic related exists
As >>32915034 said, to them one success is worth the risk of 10+ "failures".

>> No.32915189

>>32914938
Anykara never learns. If anything it's probably worse now that the company went public.

>> No.32915266

>>32905749
>uplifting 2views into 3+view territory
doing god's work

>> No.32915344

>>32906414
niji has several times the amount of talents and their administrative expenses are about half of holos. i bet that the lowest nijis don't even have management.

>> No.32915586

>>32915344
while I find the thought of anycolor leaving behind all the failures, we know that the lower nijis do have managers. The manager are spread thin sometimes because a lot of them share managers.

>> No.32915684

>>32915034
I'll give it a year or two before the family dynamic nijien tried copying from hololive implodes under the niji bloat and difference in treatment from successes and failures. I'll bet finana or one of the illuna 3 views graduates first after having luxiem rolling in cash and being coddled by management while they can barely even get their assigned pajeet to respond to an IM after a week.

>> No.32915896

>>32908441
not really, you can have a few big donars, but they are only going to buy one of your voice pack. Niji merch is generally low effort on the end of the company. Holo is much better with getting stuff made that most fans actually want to buy. At least for their more popular talents.

>> No.32915941

>>32915176
>10+ for Salami
rumao
Also shame about her massive recline.

>> No.32915943

>>32914829
If your entertainment company's management is blowing money on software development for scope-crept Genshin knockoffs while the talents can't get permissions for anything other than Minecraft and more than once have complained about a bunch of management overhead that often goes as far as cancelling their projects, it's obvious the management side of the corporation has gotten completely out of hand and thinks it's more important than the people bringing in actual money. It's not some conspiracy theory, unchecked middle management running out of control is a story as old as corporations are.

>> No.32916016

>>32915684
>implying hololive has a family dynamic
i love the girls i really do, but they do not have a family feel. close friends, yes, but a family is a bit too much

>> No.32916359

>>32915941
Even though Salome isn't getting like 50k+ views that she used to, it's still telling that she's doing better than like 3/4 of Anykara's talents.

>> No.32916409

>>32916016
I think family is a better description. You don't necessarily have to be that close to family, but there is a level of family is family. For close friends it assumes, well, that they're actually close.

>> No.32916455

>>32916016
Lazulight felt like a family
Now with 26 members, you're reaching into distant relative family status

>> No.32916604

>>32916359
Salome was getting 100k+ ccv when she buck-broke numberniggers at debut. Now she's getting 30k-50k ccv.

>> No.32916645

>>32916359
3/4ths of ankara's talents are also shitters.

>> No.32916691

>>32907333
>every single NijiEN member grew their fanbase
>except for those who sabotage their own growth
So not everyone grew their fanbase?

>> No.32916776

>>32916409
for me they are coworkers, unlike most of Nijien were they knew each other for years before getting into nijisanji, holoen doesn't really feel particularly close

>> No.32916872

>>32916604
>30k-50k
https://vrabi.net/channel/UCgIfLpQvelloDi8I0Ycbwpg

>> No.32916978

>>32916776
Watch more than EN.

>> No.32917010

>>32916604
Er no...she's getting 10k-40k nowadays (10-25k since she finished RE8) with that nearly 70k relay karaoke as the only outlier
It's quite amazing how anycolor managed to fuck up their golden goose

>> No.32917128

>>32916409
i could argue that a lot of nijien are close and have that family feel, but i get what you're getting at. the girls are really close to each other though and so i get why some see them as "family" it's just me being autistic

>> No.32917227

>>32917010
>It's quite amazing how anycolor managed to fuck up their golden goose
>10k, 25k, 40k, 70k
>failure
KEK, numberniggers truly got mindbroken.

>> No.32917308

>>32916776
oh don't worry i dropped holoen and yes holojp are definitely much closer they actually like to hang out with each other off stream

>> No.32917695

>>32917227
you're trying so hard, but get better bait.>>32916872

>> No.32917798

>>32917227
I didn't say she was failure - it was just a massive wasted opportunity
Nowadays it just feels like they're just spending her with shill streams
Why the fuck did they put up a walled garden around her, with the only collabs being prerecorded? When YT recommends holos just as often as nijis to her viewers, you know something is fucked up

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>>32910947
Phase Connect staff is single digits and they still found better talents than Iluna

>> No.32917904

should holos all graduate for losing to niji, a forever "losing" company?

>> No.32918022

>>32917798
well to be fair to anycolor, salome actually said she's scared of collabing and that's why she doesn't reach out. Pretty sure she mentioned her manager actually asking her to collab but she declined.
not surprised she has such imposter syndrome with her big opening

>> No.32918428

>>32917227
Don't get me wrong she's still doing fantastic, especially compared to most of the company. But it really looks like Anykara didn't learn from what went right with her, where they get some genuine diamonds instead of shotgunning talents out nonstop in the hopes that at least one makes it big.
They're doing it now with EN too, they lucked out with Luxiem and while they still try and milk them with Puchiluxiem/"half anniversaries", they're still throwing out vtubers like an assembly line without learning why they did well. As a result EN currently has 26 talents and most of them just play and do the same shit.

>> No.32918461

>>32917904
ok >>32911583

>> No.32918897

>>32918428
iluna is in a pretty poor position. If that poll they're running is heralding another EN wave I can only imagine how the two groups will look.

>> No.32919636

>>32918428
JP doesn't shotgun out talents any more, they drastically slowed down and then wholesale replaced their audition process with VTA (which is executed terribly, but that's another topic)
KR and ID are effectively dead
EN is literally the only Niji branch still sticking with ACCELERATE

>> No.32920050

>>32915684
>family dynamic nijien tried copying from hololive
Why shitposters keep trying to force this? They never pushed for shit, a lot of them feel close because they talk all the time on discord and get together on vc to watch when someone does a big stream, but they don't force anything and already have a lot of cliques, but I guess its easy to pretend they do something they don't and then criticize them for being bad at it

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>>32920050
It's probably a mandate from their management

>> No.32922008

>>32910432
>exact same soulless garbage a Iluna
Anon should be glad he didn't get in then

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>>32915176
Her design is unironically perfect

>> No.32922311

>>32920961
wasnt this when the chinks were threatening to kill Vox, something he has yet to recover from

>> No.32922374

>>32920961
There it is, the only screenshot you fags have when talking about it, and with the context removed as always

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>>32906414
The biggest number to take into consideration, Cover actually has people working.

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>>32917853
That's because they actually looked through their applicants instead of at numbers, like every other company.

>> No.32922463

>>32922311
I don't think so. They had a huge company meeting about something we don't know, it just happened to be around the time vox was strating to get dts

>> No.32922515

>>32922311
No, this was around the uki offcollab fiasco and the perms for english karaoke, so it was most probably because of one of these

>> No.32922668

>>32922463
>>32922515
well which one is it? How often do they do this that you guys get confused on whihc time it was

>> No.32922921

>>32922668
I seriously hope you don't believe anything said in this medless hellscape.

>> No.32923253

>>32908094
Really? I know Reimu and Millie were 3 view streamers a good while, but it always felt like Enna had the biggest numbers of her gen

>> No.32923764

>>32922668
The only time it happened was around the uki offcollab + english karaoke perms so I'm pretty confident in what I said, the vox drama was where the finana parasocial bullshit came from

>> No.32923762

Personally I think it's fine to shit out a lot of vtubers, who cares if Iluna is not doing well? They fucking sucks.
But seriously, Enna and Millie are great, Pomu/Elira/Selen are good too, so why the fuck can't they pick people who are as good as them? Surely there are plenty of great choices with 30k applications and all.

>> No.32923934

>>32923253
People always shitted on ethyria for a reason, Nina was the only one doing ok and just because she leeched a bunch of deadsubs from luxiem

>> No.32924081

>>32923253
before iluna ethyria was known as the flop wave because all of them struggled to hit more that 3 digits. Luxiem came around and changed that for Nina, but the rest were still struggling. Millie, Enna, and Nina were around the same while Reimu was the runt, and still it, of the wave

>> No.32928586

>>32924081
Huh, maybe I remember wrong but I thought Enna and Nina did well early on. Wasn't Nina like the fastest growing nijiEN for a while, even before Luxiem?

>> No.32928659

>>32923934
>>32924081
Feels good that Enna, Millie and Reimu are inclining while that leeching whore si reclining

>> No.32929666

>>32928659
Why are you numberfagging them

>> No.32929921

>>32929666
I'm not numberfagging them, I'm just glad Nina's shitty behavior isn't being rewarded and that her genmates actually working and not taking the easy leech route are finally seeing results for it.

>> No.32930588

>>32905749
vtubers are low cost and low maintenance. Especially if you don't give them any salary

>> No.32932898

>>32930588
Anon it's not about whether anycolor can afford it
Of course they can, look at all the money they're hoarding
It's about the livelihoods of the livers themselves
The ACCELERATION that's constantly memed about has always been about benefiting the corp, since the handful of successes can also subsidize the failures
In theory it should expand the audience such that even low tier livers can benefit, but in practice for niji EN, this has only really worked with luxiem

>> No.32934000

>>32932898
>It's about the livelihoods of the livers themselves
Let's be honest here, you don't actually care about any of them. This is Nijisanji not Hololive, the management will not treat everyone equally, the ones management like will be pushed and get everything while the others get nothing. Fucking Rof-Mao get no support despite how successful they are, official Niji channel literally never retweet any of their event.

>> No.32937960

>>32905411
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1568796655864127490
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1568796655864127490
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1568796655864127490
Here's your wave 7, retards.

>> No.32938466

>>32937960
only shu.. i thought it was gonna be all luxiem and all voltaction.. no fun

>> No.32939189

>>32932898
All of this points to Riku just cashing out his stock the second the IPO period ends and the company being cut down and restructured after. Just go full min max for short term gains, meanwhile Cover is already spending its revenue on things that will improve long term growth like the game and enough staff to negotiate meaningful collabs and deals.

>> No.32939512

>>32937960
The poll isn't even over, retard.

>> No.32942315

>>32905411
>Hope you're ready
They're the ones that have to be ready

>> No.32943700

>>32932898
I known it's hard for you commie to understand, people watch the streamer if they are entertain, not because of the brand so the shitter vtubers in nijisanji stay at the bottom is their own fault, if they are entertain, people will start come to their stream like Enna

>> No.32943791

>>32939189
Imagine believing on this shit when acceleration has been on nijisanji since day 1

>> No.32944044

>>32943791
numberfags are running out of narratives, they claimed salome was being botted to pump the share price so riku could dump his stocks when anykara went public but they figured out that he's not allowed to do that for a while so they had to come up with something else

>> No.32944089

>>32942315
Looks like your anus isn't ready.

>> No.32944182

So rhey are the Subway of vtubing. Fuck the franchise owners as long as corporate succeeds.

>> No.32944214

>>32905570
>>32905599
>>32907439
>>32905966
what are the actual fucking chances they stream anything but apex/valo?

>> No.32944332

>>32905411
Can't wait until we get this wave overwith and have all male gamer waves for the next half a year. I'm excited for more boys.

>> No.32944345

>>32909269
>they make their choice in 14 seconds
jesus christ
tough fucking market

>> No.32944564

>>32907196
>karaoke
>beat by literally 6 viewers
Are the nijigirls that pathetic where a one digit difference is considered a win? Holy shit my sides

>> No.32944600

>>32906334
i'm starting to fucking believe this reincarnation rrat............................. all the councilrys girls were telling her good luck and telling her she'll do great...... did she really fucking apply and choose anykara over cover? i dont even care about tribalfagging and its not like i feel betrayed, i just didn't expect i'd see an inverse luna situation

>> No.32944665

>>32908274
>"boring" males but still get higher viewers and shuperchats and more merch than the females
That says something about the girls

>> No.32944794

>>32905411
There's going to be a day in the near future with more people in Nijisanji EN than Hololive JP despite the market being way smaller...

>> No.32944818

>>32905696
I think even the dragon creature from VShojo is better than the Niji llama gen.

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>>32907067
Those "failing vtubers" are the entire reason Nijisanji is bigger than Hololive.

>> No.32944971

>>32944824
>not counting the Luxiem channel
One job.

>> No.32945018

>>32944600
I want to see it happen just to see the reaction of Holofags. Like, will they hate her more than Kson?

>> No.32945299

>>32945018
>lazy bitch who can’t stop playing gachashit long enough to stream once in a blue moon
No, she’d just look like an addict. At least Kson had value.

>> No.32945314

Will the gamers wave just be failed esports players? Or will they even get that, cause it kills any chance of irl activity

>> No.32945389

>>32906334
Pretty sure they won't hire someone who was too fucking lazy to stream

>> No.32945576

>>32914289
no need to give salary to the livers.
livers don't get a manager until they generate enough income to cover their cost.
And even then sometimes they have to share a manager with other livers.
They're not even paying for branch wide stuff like the minecraft server.
Anything they pay for, they'll put on the main channel to recoup the costs.
It's the ultimate laissez-faire capitalist paradise.

>> No.32945625

>>32914543
>they're spending $$$ on developing vanity projects like gacha games and HoloError.
> Lie:Verse
> The new horror game project that apparently has Mayuzumi appearing in it

>> No.32945651

>>32945299
Nah, she'll probably stream more because of Niji's plentiful chink gacha permissions, shit, they'll give her money for her to play it.

>> No.32945824

>>32915684
it's already happening
when their MC server version got reset by Luca, it spawned a huge biome around the spawn and wiped everything there.
This meant OG buildings from the first 3 waves for the most part got rekt.
Their last backup was 4 months old (thanks Finana) so that one wouldn't have a lot of the Luxiem structures, Vox's castle or anything iLuna built.
Guess which one they decided to go with.

>> No.32945886

>>32918022
sasuga bullysanji...

>> No.32946009

>>32909819
Nobody currently in NijiEN has any other source of income

>> No.32946060

>>32922311
https://twitter.com/EnnaAlouette/status/1509368488011436034
this was back in March
it was after the discord leak

>> No.32946281

>>32943791
There's a reason JP stopped and EN took it up, JP Market is saturated but EN is not. They'll minmax where they can for profit.

>> No.32946976

Nijis really shit out new members every 3 months and wonder why 99% of them fade into obscurity

>> No.32947743

>>32905411
>Hope you're ready
Cant they just debut them now?

>> No.32947986

>>32918428
to be honest I prefer the way they operate right now
>before nijiEN I only really liked Ina
>then nijiEN gave me Elira and Selen
>then holoEN gave us Council and I got nothing from that
>then Enna and pre-luxiem Nina, I still believe the hag can return to her former glory
at this point I stopped watching holoEN
males came, Vox was based but went for the chinkbag, still great in collabs
Fulgur and Kyo are the only guys I tune in to watch even solo streams
If I wake up early I catch some Vesper zatsus
>Myth till Tempus 22 months, 15 talents, 1 faded away and the other is literally "you went to the wrong side orc" to me
>Lazulight till ILUNA 14 months, 26 talents, 6 people I tune in with priority to girls with headwings

Keep accelerating, of course can't watch all 6 every time, but theres always a VOD to watch on my free time during dead hours

>> No.32948006

>>32945299
>Can stream all the chink gachashit she loves
>Sometimes will even be sponsored to do it
She's in

>> No.32948088

>>32945299
Well, Niji has billion of chink gatcha sponsor for her, she will feel at home

>> No.32948280

>>32922668
the only thing we know for sure for the branch meeting was the english songs
the first thing Selen tweeted after the meeting was the calendar date for her first karaoke
>My bet is the other topic was nijiEN participation in the nijiFES
When it got announced there was no giant uproar/celebration by nijiEN members and by now we know majority of them will go to Japan not just Lazulight

>> No.32948290

>>32945625
>The new horror game project that apparently has Mayuzumi appearing in it
lmao, look at this /#/nignog eop, it isn't game project kek

>> No.32948335

"Fanbase dilution" is something that has yet to be proven. Every NijiEN wave has managed to incline their numbers so far.

>> No.32948397

>>32923934
Nina was doing better than the rest before Luxiem because she was the only one that played good games
the rest only played horror shit or some indie kusoge, Reimu didn't streamed Apex as much as Selen but played more than her off-stream

>> No.32948564

>>32909269
That's not particularly surprising, I've heard that most recruiters know what their decision is going to be within a minute of a job interview starting

>> No.32948698

>>32945314
since it has a narrow scope, and they pretty much need to have a literal gamer curriculum, this smaller focused pool of candidates might have hires based first on their quality instead of a deadchannel clout

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>>32906414
They do, but barely. Here is their sales profit progress from 2020 to 2022.

>> No.32949145

>>32948777
That's just you cherrypicking a single thing. Even with all those fanatical idolshitter fans you still can't sell more merch lmao.

>> No.32949223

>>32949145
200 streamers vs about 60 btw.

>> No.32949310

>>32949145
“Sales revenue” is the total income from the operation mate. Superchat and the rest of YouTube revenue, ads, sponsorship, everything that they get as revenue from their main operation.

>> No.32949371

>>32911066
she always streamed in those hours, even before luxiem

>> No.32949428

>>32949223
But muh quality > quantity argument. If Niji keeps adding more streamers at a faster pace it's because it works, or else they would've stopped doing it long ago. It's just a different business strategy. Hololive would do the same thing too if they weren't an idol group. Being an idol group means you can't add too many members since it's based around group identity while Nijisanji isn't. Every streamer is independent and not part of a large box of viewers.

>> No.32949507

>>32945824
>the talents deciding to keep the current save after Luca's fuck up is somehow related to Luxiem success
imagine returning to May's backup
>Because Luca fucked up, we will not make you lose 4 months of progress, so we get some of what was lost
they couldn't even copy-paste all of the auto-farms because they didn't even exist before may

>> No.32949622

>>32906570
legit? a lot of the JP nijis keep their roommate career going while coming home to stream some games at night a few days every week and making some extra, what's there to complain?

>> No.32949667

>>32944665
Yeah, it says that they don't have an army of CCP chinks backing them

>> No.32949671

>>32907027
based fellow body hair enjoyer

>> No.32949709

>>32906334
Didn't she get hired by some CN company to be an artist for them?

>> No.32949755

>>32905411
>oh no the newest EN wave flopped
>not my problem! ACCELERATE

>> No.32949794

It's pretty telling from the comments Nijisanji fans only care about the company and don't give as shit about their streamers at all. That's pretty sad honestly.

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>>32949794
It's always been like this.
Even the original Lazulight fans were just contrarians who didn't want to watch Hololive because they were popular.
fun fact, the reason they called holos "fake" is because they played with their lore a lot, and that cope evaporated when they got Rosemi into their ranks

>> No.32949931

pretty telling that holofans only care about numbers, calling lower viewer streamers failures, and not about streamer content at all. Even then their company is still losing

>> No.32949936

>>32949794
I care about the streamers I watch, the rest could go back to where they came from

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>>32949794
Not me, i always shat on Anycolor for delaying shit, not letting my Selen to have her own merch, not helping her with big projects, lack of management on certain things, ect

>> No.32950047

>>32949931
Those lower viewer streamers have to keep their jobs on their roommates because they can't support themselves otherwise. What's the point of joining a billion dollar corpo if you're gonna end up doing that anyway. Great having 200+ streamers gives you bigger numbers overall but look into the streamers individually and it's not a good look.

>> No.32950086

>>32948397
She still does play good games sometimes and I like that she drinks, just like me. But she does too many collabs and even in streams that aren't collabs it is always talk about Nijisanji. Her current viewers are mostly tourists that came to watch her to hear her talk about the males.

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I have nothing worthwhile, interesting, or meaningful to contribute except to say that I hate nijiniggers and I hope you all have a terrible week

>> No.32950173

>>32950047
just because some hololive members share an audience obsessed with the brand this doesn't make them better entertainers, and you can argue that running a company as a charity and have a bunch of them coasting on the laurels of the hardworkers is a good model but this probably isn't true. losing pekora or marine would be a much bigger damage to their brand than nijisanji losing kuzuha or kenmochi for example

>> No.32950182

>>32949972
Ofc its always dragoons

>> No.32950201

>>32949667
owned, shouldve appealed to the enlightened celestials

>> No.32950208

>>32948777
So the gap is bigger each year eventhough hololive raped nijisanji CCV everyday

>> No.32950216

>>32950047
no one cares about this other than idolshits pretending that they're raising a daughter. Most vtubers on the planet don't even break 100 viewers and using it as a topic for discussion is dumb as shit

>> No.32950229

>>32950173
They literally lost the number 1 and number 2 most superchatted youtubers and facetanked it. They'll be fine. If Nijisanji lose Kuzuha or Salome what then.

>> No.32950232

>>32905696
There's nothing wrong with iluna; they're all fairly talented and they need to establish themselves. Not everyone is going to be a superstar right out of the gate.

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>>32950182
Fuck off, both Holobronnies and Nijiniggers are bootlickers always defending the corporation instead of the girl, not all but most of them
Kill yourself

>> No.32950280

>>32908153
Luxiem has the first-past-the-post benefit, similar to Holomyth. Put the first 100 large corpo ENstreamers in a room and I gurantee that maybe 1/5 of both Luxiem and Holomyth would even be able to compete. Of course, we all know who the best, most longlasting streamer is in Luxiem and Holomyth. It's so known we don't even have to say it

>> No.32950281

>>32950229
that's not how niji operates. If they lose 2, they just add more to cover whatever timeslot they lost. Niji has like 6 EN that stream during japan time. What other company has that

>> No.32950287

>>32950086
Are you sure? I absolutely hate that she started spamming minecraft streams, I watch her for her niche game choice among the ocean of pleb game vtubers and it's frustrating to see her become just like the rest of them. I was holding out hope that she would actually play something interesting like Crusader Kings like she promised, but then she proceeded to completely blueball us by saying that she won't play it on stream because "muh religion" and someone might be offended over religion in a video game following ahistorical events. I dropped my membership after that. I'll come back if she starts shaping up but at this rate that's unlikely.

>> No.32950310

>>32949903
>Even the original Lazulight fans were just contrarians who didn't want to watch Hololive because they were popular.
I watched both and I still do.

Stop making up strawmen.

>> No.32950339

>>32950232
wtf is that kind of cope? iluna is maybe one of the worst gens to ever come out from a corpo, the only one from that shit that is anything decent is maybe kyo, the rest is hot garbage

>> No.32950350

>>32950229
rushia was literally irrelevant outside of her cult that followed after her after termination

>> No.32950365

>>32950047
Life isn't communist paradise, if you are entertaining, people will watch you, nobody gives a fuck about unfunny shits, they are at the bottom for a reason, I am not a brand drone, I will only watch and support the one entertains me

>> No.32950378

>>32950237
I find dragoons pretty obnoxious in general, but based. Dunno why people on this board like brownnosing corpos so much when it's the talents they enjoy, not the suits. Think some people get too caught up in fanbase wars and think they absolutely need to give Yagoo or Riku a rimjob just to stick it to the other side.

>> No.32950383

>>32950339
I think the girls are fine, they just need to grow and develop themselves. I don't really watch Aster or Ren, but they seem fine.

>> No.32950387

>>32950339
p sure that's tempus? They're just a copy of luxiem only with training wheels and kid gloves so they come off as worse

>> No.32950429

>>32950387
Tempus is also fine. People need to stop freaking the fuck out.

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>>32909399
More vtubers in the company is honestly longterm beneficial for top dogs like Selen.
Say there are 100 NijiENs and another debut comes up. Because of a new debut, fans from all fanbases poke their head in to see the new gen. The new gen wants to secure a collab with the older vtubers in the company for the buff. But the older vtubers end up mogging the newer ones and send more non-contrarian viewers their way, thus sustaining their fanbase.

>> No.32950554

>>32905636
The relationship between Japan and SEA goes way back. They even call it the “special relationship” because they view each other like britbongs and burgertards.

The SEAmen love weeb shit so much every one of them probably could become vtubers and make a living.

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>>32920961
>no selen
I love my anti-hugbox oshi!

>> No.32950651

>>32950387
wtf you are talking about, they are nothing like luxiem

>> No.32950728

>>32950378
It's literally console wars from /v/ projected over here.
In my opinion, Nijisanji and Hololive both aren't as bad as what came before them, but I have a feeling the next companies to pop up will be even better than them about supporting talents and chasing permissions

>> No.32950742

This shit is unironically the sole reason why I don't watch niji even though I like a lot of their girls when I do see their clips or whatever. It's literally just too many fucking streamers, every 2 months they put out a new wave and the old ones fade into obscurity. Having the restraint to not debut new gens every other day is the single solitary thing Cover did right to put them at the top. Being able to feasibly keep up with the basics about every member and feel like you know who everyone is gives hololive that big family feeling that no other corpo has replicated even if it's mainly artificial, that's what creates brand loyalty, what builds company culture, what makes big collabs exciting for fans, and what gets every new hololive girl 200k subs before debut, pretty much guaranteeing success. With Niji it's not humanly possible to follow everyone and find who you like and even the streamers themselves aren't aware of all their coworkers, which makes it feel less like a big group and more like 500 2view indies with their own little cliques and no connection to each other beyond a brand name.

>> No.32950762

>>32944824
of course they would win in total viewing time. they have like 200 livers AND EXPANDING almost every 2 months. Whereas the holos only have 50+ and you have to also consider that most holos only stream 1-2 hours per day.

>> No.32950785

>>32950287
>her niche game choice among the ocean of pleb game vtubers and it's frustrating to see her become just like the rest of them
Same. She's actually good solo doing streams of underrated gems, but she seems to think spamming collabs and multiplayer games like Minecraft is the way to go. Shame.

>> No.32950805

>>32950742
I ain't readin all of that, but good for you or sorry that happened.

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>>32950742

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>>32950607

>> No.32950883

>>32949972
This is how you identify a true nijifan
they love the liver, but will almost always shit on Anycolor, usually because their oshi never gets any support.

>> No.32950910

>>32950883
Truth

>> No.32950922

>>32950883
I'm sad that your oshi isn't ngo, join us

>> No.32950942

>>32950883
niji/jp/ never did this and it just reeks of messiah complex

>> No.32950945

>>32950922
I watched her 3D debut, it was pretty kino ngl

>> No.32951044

>>32906570
You should give a shit because all of their competitors are watching to see what happens, because competitors in any market see what the others do and whether there’s anything they can learn from them. It could affect Cover or smaller corpos’ future recruitment strategies.
It’s not like you really have to care, and your experience as a vtuber enjoyer will probably not be that impacted by not paying attention. I’m just saying there’s plenty of legitimate reasons to be interested in how anykara’s doing even if you don’t give two shits about them and you hate the CEO

>> No.32951097

>>32944214
There's a rumor in the osumania community that a player who played in the World Cup got in, but I can't see that happening. He definitely wouldn't be allowed to play osu!/Etterna/modded FNF/etc. because it's a copyright minefield, and Nijis are way too deep in bed with Konmai to let him even mention DJMax/EZ2ON, meaning he'd be limited to Infinitas and console/smartphone rhythm games like Yashiro.
Unless it's Silly trying to escape the hell of streaming FNF mods as a job he put himself into. That I could believe.

>> No.32951183

>>32951097
people who are good at osumania are usually good at bemani games in general, nijisanji has the perms for all of those: IIDX and SDVX are possible, they also have the DJMax perms since alban played it on stream plus the usual muse dash shenanigans

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>>32951097
If anything, that makes it more likely that he gets into Niji due to pic related.

>> No.32951341

>>32951183
Actually you're right, for some reason only people who only play keyboard rhythm games came to my mind, but now I can think of a couple who are good with controllers like Azer and Elah.
>Alban played DJMax on stream
Really? I didn't know that, that also improves things even for keyboard-only players.

>> No.32951426

>>32951183
so how does he play SDVX and IIDX unless Konami is really okay with people playing arcade rips rmao
IIDX is the hardest rhythman btw

>> No.32951655

>>32951426
exceed gear for SDVX and inifinitas for IIDX? jubeat can also be played on android/iOS

>> No.32951898

>>32951655
fuck i'd rather shoot myself or at least play the ps2 ports

>> No.32952054

>>32912422
3 if you count NijiPajeet

>> No.32952878

>>32918022
>she's scared of collabing
Why? Doesn't Debi collab plenty?

>> No.32953126

>>32952878
sadly that was just a rrat

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