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Does the idea of EN3 excite you anymore?

>> No.32729417

>>32729346
After holostarsEN is not the same.

>> No.32729435

nope honestly. i just want another JP gen. after all the homo bullshit for weeks, im over it. ill just watch pekora, botan or migo and may be anya since she's JP

>> No.32729462

>>32729346
It still is
im a cuckold btw, not sure if that matter doe

>> No.32729466

>exited for EN3
>when anons never even watched streams of the previous gens
>or any streams for that matter
what did they mean by this?

>> No.32729467

>>32729346
If they get more retards like Kronii the worm their way in no. I don't want good models to be wasted on fuckers that are just gonna hide their model and look goofy as fuck every single stream with just their head poking out from the bottom corner.

>> No.32729483

>>32729346
Only if they are anti males like the Gura faction

>> No.32729552

>>32729346
Yes, get someone who can play Valorant, please.
Kobo need a friend. it's better if she's also a cunny.

>> No.32729588

The retards' excitements ends together with the collab ban

>> No.32729632

Tempus is EN3

>> No.32729659

>>32729552
Kobo will bring the homo dicks with her.

>> No.32729670

>>32729346
No, if anything I want the whole EN vtubing sphere to be gone. This hobby shouldn't have gotten as big as it did, it only ended up introducing bad actors that fucked up the whole point of vtubing. Gone are the times when this shit was just supposed to be anime characters people could interact with. Now it's all twitch streamers doing their generic crap with an anime avatar on screen, not even bothering to play the fucking characters. There's no point to introducing more non-vtubers.

>> No.32729774

>>32729346
No, because we'll get another Bae, Ollie and Mori.

>> No.32729775

>>32729346
Only if they graduates omega

>> No.32729820

>>32729346
No. They all gonna be tempiss cocksuckers...

>> No.32729823

there are already 3 generations of holoEN

>> No.32729914

>>32729346
Yes, I'm still waiting for a good yurofag and a hag to watch, I'm just scared they will hire someone like Nina from niji, EN hags are a wildcards
I also want IRyS to voice more lore videos

>> No.32729946

>>32729346
Need fps cunny, so she would play with my kobo and force laplus to collab with them and stream. Please, kobo need help, she's being overwhelmed by dicks

>> No.32729960

>>32729346
Only if they try to grab girls who actually want to make use of Cover's idol focus and make more music. It's still boggles my mind how other than the nominal Vsinger the only other girl that's actually pushing for it is fucking Mori out of everyone. But considering how retarded everyone handling EN is I don't doubt they're avoiding these types like a plague and only grabbing those who are sorta decent singers but aren't willing to commit to a musical career. The new "Should have clear goals set in their minds" clause they added to the auditions page makes me a little more hopeful for it, but it's quite likely that EN3 will debut either next month or early November if the 15 months of wait for ID3 and Holox is anything to pay attention to, so I doubt this next batch was under the same scrutiny that future gens will be on.

>> No.32730004

>>32729346
Nope. It’s all gone to hell, and I hope my oshi can escape it soon.

>> No.32730053

>>32729346
Only insofar that it stands to dilute the potential male collabs. Throw more women into the mix and my oshi has less chances to be dragged down

>> No.32730082

>>32729346
If there is consistent lore then yes.

If it's a mess. I'll try to fix it.

If there's no lore I'm dropping it.

>> No.32730091

>>32729346
I will comment on their twitter announcement, youtube teaser video, and their first tweet: "5 fresh onahole for the tempus boys!"

>> No.32730162

>>32729346
After male Mori aka Magni and that fucking awful anti-white collab chinese woman, no. It can only be good if they separate the groups at this point. Maybe the boys were bad for HoloEN after all.

>> No.32730249

>>32729346
Fuck no. It'll just be another bunch of lazy girls with shit personalities who think far too highly of themselves for their position.

>> No.32730397

So what kind of girls would make the best EN3 members? So far, autistic didn't work, singer is uncertain, creative didn't last, only one cunny remains.
Is it literally only idol types that can save it?

>> No.32730660
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>>32730397
GFE, Numberfag, Coomerbait, Tits and autist that want to be seen as cute. Pic unrelated.

>> No.32730669

>>32729346
I'm done with hololive

>> No.32730729

Not gonna hakooshi anymore.
Will see if they have clear stance of collab with Holostar or not. But definitely not gonna be first day member

>> No.32730823

>>32729346
before i would have give everyone the benefit of doubt but not after this mess.
even if they are good, look what kinda environment they'll debut into. all it's missing is someone higher up actually saying the words "mixed branch"

>> No.32730824

>>32729346
Nope, they will all be whores and not at least pretend anymore. Any new female members will be clearly in it for the fame and money while being allowed to continue to act like the typical egirl streamer

>> No.32730896

>>32729346
I already told everyone in the past that:
1. I don't want a new group of shiny toys to solve EN problems, i want the ones there to take things seriously for once.
2. In any case adding more members probably won't solve any of the problems (they may just adjust so all of them stream less to fill the same number of hours as now) and could bring even more problems.

>> No.32730928

>>32729346
Why do we even need a third generation already, I cannot fucking stand this jewy corporate shit of endlessly churning out more product until the consumer is sick of it. It's not fair to the talents who will come in when we've hit the vtuber singularity and there's no more capacity for growth.

>> No.32730951

>>32730823
Central management in Japan definitely doesn't think it's mixed branch. You can judge from the 5th anniversary stream.
But the middle management, a.k.a. the end of all things Omega has different idea

>> No.32730955

>>32729346
Constant homocollab destroyed any hope that they will just be cute girls doing cute things. I'm just tired of it all.

>> No.32730958

>>32729346
Havent we enought already?

Also the audience is becoming more and more r*ddit unicornfuckbois.

>> No.32730960

>>32730397
Go for non U.S. and CANADA, Otaku minded applicants. People who have a more genuine love for Vtubing and anime JP culture. Not people who are clout chasing and lazy minded to streaming.

>> No.32730985

>>32729670
This. Vtubing went from people playing a character to people thinking vtuber = streaming with an anime avatar. It's also getting worse as more and more people in EN and JP think Hololive is just a way to gain a fanbase and then funnel them to their RM because christ forbid they do the job they signed up for with Cover.

>> No.32731096

No, because they'll be as boring to watch and interact with as Myth and Council.

>> No.32731166

>>32729346
Nah.

>> No.32731192

>>32729346
No. Putting Tempus collabs aside, just the general holoEN mentality will drag down EN3 even if they are top notch talents on debut.

>> No.32731268

>>32729346
No, it's very clear which direction HoloEN going nowadays so I'm no longer excited

>> No.32731450

Why are you people so fucking gae, why are you against collabs this much you fucking retards, are you so sad and pathetic that you can't even coom to your oshi when accompanied with a male.

Male and female collabs are the way to go, the it's meant to be, the way that God intended.

>> No.32731473

>>32731450
God isn't real.

>> No.32731528

>>32731450
the cuck

>> No.32731553

>>32729466
>>when anons never even watched streams of the previous gens

what streams?

>> No.32731660

>>32731450
>Male and female collabs are the way to go
Not for Gura, Not for HoloJP, so thank you for increasing their views and sinking your homos.

>> No.32731681

>>32729346
No

>> No.32731828

>>32730985
I wish Holos would focus more on things being in character and keeping their personal life in the background as much as possible. I don’t really care about personal accounts still being active as long as they hide it behind a paywall and the people who are desperate for that stuff can pay the premium.

>> No.32731895

>>32731450
Yet Ame is the one with a count of two men who have ravaged her womb doing wonders for her and totally not leaving her a bitter cunt. I'll make sure to audition for Stars EN2 and let myself become the next novelty toy for her to play with.

>> No.32731927

>>32731450
It's that korean woman Magni collabed with and their discord server spamming this board making posts like this.

>> No.32731934

>>32731450
God also intended for you to be a good person and reproduce, but here you are wasting your life in this Mongolian basket-weaving forum. What's up with that?

>> No.32732002

>>32731660
Bruh, half of JP have already collabed males, especially Fubuki who collabs with HoloStars on a nearly monthly basis.

And gura will soon bend the knee and taste the cock of these sweet collabs

>> No.32732086
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32732086

>All the girls will be so intimidated being new they'll agree to whatever their senpai's ask
>Mori will pounce and ask them to join a holostars collab but leave a passive aggressive ''Or you don't need to if you're weird about that stuff''
>Pipeline opened near instantly after the collab ban is over
>Gura never gains any allies
How do we save the great hope?

>> No.32732125

>>32730985
>>32731828
Just go roleplay on tumblr instead. The bit gets boring after awhile, people tend to like the person behind the model.

>> No.32732217

>>32731528
Don't fall in love with a woman whose your only connection to her is spending money on her so she would recognise you anon.

>> No.32732326

>>32729346
>NijiEN became Vshojo lite
>HoloEN became NijiEN lite
I guess the next step is mixed gender collabs because at this point I really don’t know what else HoloEN management can do to try and kill off their fanbase

>> No.32732346

>>32732086
Tell her to quit playing multiplayer games.

>> No.32732374

>>3272934
Yeah because I don't let retards on /vt/ influence my opinions.

>> No.32732415

It's just going to be another bunch of sluts who don't stream except for the occasional holostars colab.

>> No.32732482

>>32729346
It did at first because tempus surprised with how good all four of them are but after it has jump started all this soical media raids and site wars not really anymore

>> No.32732682

>>32729346
Still hopeful, but expectations are way down in the dirt this time, feeling disappointed sucks a lot

>> No.32732810

council is EN 3 >:(

>> No.32733017

>>32732002
>2018
>Only few still do it regularly
>Towa never collabs with Star
>Matsuri rarely collabs with Star
>Counting sponsorship, events and panels
You see, it's easy to just drop a "but half of the JP did it" without context

>> No.32733089
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32733089

Nah.
Out of the next 100 EN vtubers to debut, only 5 of them will be worthwhile.
It's just gonna get worse over time as the talent pool dries up but the desire for new content increases. The only salvageable EN vtubers are Lazulight, Obsydia, maybe Holomyth Prism Project, and Tsunderia. Maybe on or two others can be plucked out of failed gens, like Fauna and Vox (i don't like makes, but he's basically the male of talent out of all of EN)
Frankly, there needs to be a company paradigm shift. Neither Nijisanji nor Hololive have a a bettering brand image as the EN debuting continues

>> No.32733140

>>32729346
I have high hopes. I think we’ll get some new blood in the CGDCT faction. Not all, but some.

>> No.32733160

>>32730896
>i want the ones there to take things seriously for once
That will never happen when their audiences are more than fine with what they're getting and most places of discussion are severely against any type of criticism. Maybe with Japan finally opening up those who really wanted to perform will finally have their chance to do it but it's probably a minority who's going for that.
>In any case adding more members probably won't solve any of the problems
It's not really about solving problems but adding other personalities into the mix. Repeating my first point you should not expect the current roster to just change and start "taking things seriously" without any incentive, something that'll definitely not come from their fanbases. A new group of members who actually have a goal is much more likely to change the current environment, even if there's a chance they might all be influenced by the current members and coast by after a while. It's definitely a risky bet, but the other choice is practically impossible to happen.

>> No.32733312

>>32729346
I'm usually just a numberfag thread reader, but I think it's time to quit it now that we even have unironic tempissfags

>> No.32733397

>>32733160
IMO now that the mainstream hype for vtubers has cooled off a bit after the huge Myth boom, I think the people still applying every 3 months, are doing it because they want to be there, not just as a cashgrab.

>> No.32733618

>>32733017
>towa and matsuri out of all people
anon...

>> No.32733753

>>32732125
No, I like seeing them do things that aren't just streaming, I liked the effort Ame put into her 3D, I liked Kiara's effort put into her 3D concert, I like Suisei's singing, Risu's singing, etc. I like watching them show their talents that aren't just minecraft and Rust streams with everyone them marathoning FotM games like Stray. Like holy fuck if you are going to stream don't be the 5th person this week to stream the same game, go back to something from 8 years ago if you want, but there are only so many times you can watch the same things over and over. But they do that because muh algorithm, and the fact that it's becoming more like Twitch.

>> No.32733761

>>32729346
Don't give a single fuck desu. The only thing that could make me care about EN 3 is if they ignore Tempus and help steer EN back on track with cgdct.

>> No.32733791

>>32729346
as long as they have a dedicated streamer

>> No.32734101

>>32729346
I wanted Stars EN since before myth debuted and it finally happened and they're actually good (inb4 number fag tells me no because #s), EN3 all I'd want is oops all Unity chads, no unicorn enablers. But people that are able to stream on their own without needing to make everything into a collab either. We don't need discord call ins 24/7, even if it's the same group.

>> No.32734288

>>32729346
Any newcomer now will have to reply back to their senpai and play games with them , and "senpai" i mean here including the homos now

>> No.32734406

>>32734288
That's the thing that gets me. We could have a perfect roster but the foundations are already set. At this point, I'd be happy if we get 1 or 2 Gura-level ones who know what they're doing and how to play the game.

>> No.32734489

>>32733397
That's what we all hope. The new auditions page does imply that future gens will be more focused, and Japan opening will hopefully speed up 3D debuts and their appearances on big events. This anon >>32733753 also pointed out something important. As much as streaming is important for a vtuber just spamming whatever game is popular and never trying more creative stuff makes things very boring very quickly, and at this point why even try for one of the biggest vtuber agencies if you're going to be a generic Twitch streamer? Other than leeching off the already established fanbase, of course.

>> No.32734685

>>32734489
I'm glad it's 3 months now, not every 2 weeks like Nene said it used to be. 3 months is enough time for the people who aren't serious about it, to get filtered out of reapplying

>> No.32734839

Additionally, Mori will continue to be an influential point for EN, and that’s probably heavily impactful for EN3 when they come around. This alone is more dangerous than any other suggestion, bar active management fuckery in favor of homobeggars.

>> No.32734954

>>32734101
Sounds like you just want nijisanji, faggot

>> No.32735259

>>32734101
And starsfujos wonder why they're hated by the wider fanbase you're no better than nijiniggers.

>> No.32735335

>>32729346
More than NijiEN, yea

>> No.32735404

>>32729346
In an environment where male collab is normalized? No

>> No.32735435

>>32729346
>>32735335
Who the fuck could possibly be excited for either of these two things?
Unless you're brand new to these two fucking awful agencies you'd know the downhill spiral.

>> No.32735448

>>32729346
>another batch of tempus cocksleeves
One anon mentioned how Niji hired illuna based on numbers because they didn't wanna sort through 40k underage b&s who just wanted to fuck luxiem. Likewise, /vt/ will accuse EN3 of trying to fuck the stars. The well's been poisoned from here on out. They're unironically DOA, and only have NTR fans to blame.

>> No.32736788

>>32729346
still does

>> No.32737640

No.

>> No.32738544

>>32733618
he's not wrong about stars specifically, they got much better dudes to leech from

>> No.32738598

>>32729632
>Tempus is...
No

>> No.32738642

>>32729346
Yes

>> No.32739782

>>32729346
Can't wait for a mixed unit just like Niji

>> No.32739915

>>32729346
i hope it will be a mixed gen with 2 boys and 2 girls

>> No.32740057

>>32729346
I don't trust cover anymore. EN3 could be good if isn't full of homo lovers, but we know now that management would never hire anyone who'd avoid them.

>> No.32742217

>>32729346
HololiveEN?
No
But HolostarsEN?
Hell yeah

>> No.32742964

>>32729346
No, because even with luck at best one of them will try to capitalize on all of this and go hardcore idol/no males in order to scoop up all of the remains, but in reality most, if not all of them will probably just be more random western twitch chuubas, only being Hololive in name, having never heard of anyone before Council (maybe Myth, but actually only Gura) sitting in discord calls with Stars all day.

>> No.32743075

>>32729346
Sure, but this year I feel satisfied by Tempus' debut.

>> No.32743323

>>32731450
>you can't even coom to your oshi when accompanied with a male.
Uh no? Do you?

>> No.32743510

>>32729346
No. I'm done with the "culture" HoloEN is building. I'll go to small corpos for EN streams and keep watching HoloJP.

>> No.32743569

>>32729346
>curated whores who will immediately collab with tempus to own the haters
Nah

>> No.32743607

>>32729346
>Unreasonable/Impossible tier
A new JP gen that speaks English
>High tier
A new ID gen
>Mid tier
A new JP gen
>Low tier
A new EN homo gen
>Shit tier
A new EN gen

>> No.32743923

>>32743607
>high tier
>ID

>> No.32743971

>>32729346
Hard to say. EN is a bit of a mess
There's still a little hope in me that they might be able to pull the Gen 3 miracle like HoloID and HoloJP
Consider them as a failed branch if they are unable to do that. Numbers don't matter if they're just the same old stagnant streamers

>> No.32743992

>>32743923
ID is like EN but better.

>Cute accents
>Not cunts

It's a shame Ollie exists but you can't win em all I guess.

>> No.32744089

>>32729346
No, it makes me scared

>> No.32744319

>>32734101
Why don't you just watch nijisanji?

>> No.32744380

>>32733160
I am kinda bitter that we aren't allowed to give criticism (no the usual no male collabs thing isn't criticism). For example, if I wanted to point out that Ayame getting 80 days off because her grandma died, which, while tragic, is far from normal to how much most people in real life get, I'd be called names and my point called worthless. That isn't justifiable, that's blind zealotry.

>> No.32744406

>>32744319
I've watched one nijisanji vod and it was a collab. Both of them had awful voices, with one just sounding like some generic valley girl.

>> No.32744585

>>32744380
They use medical reasons as excuses for everything because it automatically becomes beyond reproach, that's all. Sora said that Stray and Rust give her motion sickness so she can't play them. If she'd just said "I don't want to play them" or "I don't like them" she'd still have people begging her to play them or weird negative sounding vibes. I'd bet money that something else went on in Ayame's life and granny dying is just a cover so people don't question her about it. Oh, you think Sana actually had back problems? roru. rumao

>> No.32744796

Oh boy I cant wait heres the timeline
>vague hints from kiara like a week before
>retarded low budget CV with silhouettes
>people get everything wrong about them(but pretend later they nailed it)
>debuts are trashy but one or two "hot" ones are praised
>dox comes out and all of them are in a committed relationship
>half of the people ignores it anyway pretends they are a bastion of purity and not like the other girls

>> No.32744798

>>32729346
All of the remaining good indies were already snatched up by Kawaii, Phase, and the early NijiEN waves. The few left are twitch indies happy where they are.

>> No.32744903

>>32743992
I really don't have an issue with Ollie, but I genuinely do prefer ID to EN. Allthough I don't watch all of ID (No Reine, no Iofi, no Zeta, no Kobo and a few others). I think the fact a bunch of them speak English makes them accessable and I do enjoy their streams and I hope Risu and Moona continue to accel with their singing.

>> No.32744957

>>32744796
>They collab with Tempus
>Automatically become whores

>> No.32745013

>>32729346
>Any bitch applying now will join for the sole purpose of getting pounded by tempiss cock
EN is over

>> No.32745064

>>32729346
Not unless they can provide some kind of proof tat they'll be 100% Japanese with fluent English skills and that they will shun Homostars, Myth, and Council.

>> No.32745102

>>32744585
Inheritance, burial ceremony responsibility, family issues emerges, etc.
So many things can happen simply from 'granny dying' especially if that person is the one that tied the whole family together

>> No.32745166

>>32729346
I was dreading the arrival of EN1 because western girls will ruin everything they touch and spineless niggers will just keep nodding along telling them how great they are

>> No.32745180

>>32743992
Risu acts like Ame, spiteful cunt. Lofi is a menhera. Anya is just a plain Cunt. Moona is a fucking normalfag. Kobo is just another Ollie minus the begging part.

>> No.32745488

>>32729346
Maybe

>> No.32745550

>>32745180
So basically, ID is like EN but better?

>> No.32745556

Tempus is en3

>> No.32745689

>>32729346
no just give me JP gen 7

>> No.32745760

>>32744585
weird you use Sora of all people, Sora still said she wants to try stray tho but it probably would be short because of her motion sickness, motion sickness doesn't you can't play at all, Sora basically force herself to play minecraft using drug and reduce the screen size to minimize motion sickness and she would say if she doesn't like the game maybe not bluntly but something like "she is not good with that kind of game" or "the game doesn't suit her", don't get me wrong i get what you mean but you're just being cynical if you said every medical reasons are just excuses, for example Pekora take a break because throat issue, i would believe it looking at how she likes streaming

>> No.32745777

Not really. The first year of myth was pretty kino, but since then you can easily tell that they are pretty burned out and it's honestly not the same. Council doesn't stream that much, and when they do stream I can't watch them because I'm usually already sleeping. And the girls are no that interesting, so I'm not that motivated to watch the vods.

EN3 is probably just going to be more of the same, so I don't care that much. I'd like to be surprised and get a gamers gen, but I'm not holding my breath

>> No.32745843

>>32729346
Not anymore, I know they'll just collab with tempus the entire time so I won't watch an entire gen.
Unless one of the girls is smart and realises how many people are being booted from their communities.
She could become a beacon of hope to the gosling by swearing off male collabs on debut

>> No.32745848

>>32743992
>indog language
>cute

>> No.32745872

>>32733753
Nothing lasts forever. Just ditch them when you get tired of them and move onto a new vtuber. I’ve stopped watching HoloEN mostly because it’s stale and they haven’t debuted a new generation (Tempus obviously doesn’t count). But I don’t get mad at HoloEN for it, I just either watch a smaller corpo or watch fleshtubers, because you can also do both.

>> No.32745932

>>32729346
Only if they recruit a hag

>> No.32746110

>>32745932
Too bad ENs at that age will only be roasties

>> No.32746131

>>32745550
No, it's the same shit. Probably worse because they speak jungle language.

>> No.32746163

>>32746110
Don't we already have Reine? And the indie scene has some decent EN hags though none reside in the States

>> No.32746182

>>32745843
>swearing off male collabs on debut
Omega won't allow it.

>> No.32746314

>>32746182
To hell with that troon.
If one of the EN3 girls actually just stayed true to the Idol Values of Hololive on debut she'd be guaranteed to have success as a retreat for abused goslings

>> No.32746438

>>32729346
if anything, it more overwhelms me a bit. Back when there was just EN I used to catch noel, coco, subaru, and other JP streams, but as more and more ENs have come in I just can't keep up with them all. Especially when trying to keep up my own gamin' habits. How does anyone find time for it all?

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>>32729346
Yes

>> No.32746571

>>32746163
Reine is a cake not a hag, this is misinfo being spread.

>>32745848
I liked the sound of Ollie ranting about indos complaining about speaking English.

>> No.32746576

>>32746314
Why bother? The Myth girls were great until they realized a) they didn't have to work hard b) they could openly insult their audience and still get paid.
Even if she promises, it'll be an empty promise. Don't get wrapped up in that, get excited by someone else who just cares more.

>> No.32746594

>>32732086
pray for a level headed hag or two, it's the only way

>> No.32746629

>>32746576
Just let me hope...

>> No.32746633

>>32746438
I usually gave up live and just watch VOD in my spare time as long as you're not FOMO
Holodex is an option as well if you're comfortable with multi-stream

>> No.32746669

>>32746131
They stream more so ID is better.

>> No.32746774

>>32746576
They don't own you anything.
If you're member, only quality and frequency of member streams matter.
Being thankful to fans is baseline

>> No.32746825

>>32746438
Watch only your oshi and when she turns shit don't hang around since it's never going to get better and then discover the world of hags

>> No.32746862

>>32746314
>To hell with that troon.
I wish, but that troon is their manager and 100% he'll shove another homolovers into EN3.

>> No.32746953

Holostars EN 2: HoloPampers

Featuring:
Daipa Pewpy
Undy Wangy
Stein Brown
Steven Stink

>> No.32746976

>>32746774
No problem, I don't owe them my watch time or supas, either.
> Being thankful to fans is baseline
Imagine thinking at this point that any of Myth or the majority of Council are actually thankful.

>> No.32746997

>>32729346
Nope, I have enough holos I like that I could watch streams/VODs all day long and not be done. I will likely watch their debuts, be unimpressed and never watch again just like with Council

>> No.32747364

>>32732125
No, you triple nigger. You don't infiltrate a hobby and tell people to leave. If you don't like what the literal fucking premise of vtubing is then you are the one that should leave. If you wanna go see literal normies streaming you have a fuck ton on twitch, there's literal 0 need for the people behind the vtuber avatar to stop playing the character.

>> No.32749193

Not really, I feel like they're all just gonna leech and pander to gachikois then leave them once they can stand on their own feet. HoloEN don't feel the same at it used to be back in the day.

>> No.32749418

>>32729346
Nope. Been watching indie and small corpos and been having a great time. Even NijiEN sometimes because they are more open.
Only JP Hololive for me, because they at least do idol things along with their streaming

>> No.32749503

>>32729346
Thanks for making a honeytrap for Niji shitposters.

>> No.32749587

not as much as it used to
they're gonna hire a bunch of girls with timezones all over the place again, they'll seldom collab and eventually become fatigued because of all of cover's extracurricular activities

>> No.32749902

>>32738598
Search your medicated feelings. You know it to be true.

>> No.32749936

I only watch Risu and Kaela. Fuck EN whores

>> No.32749941

>>32729632
nah

>> No.32750079

>>32749936
god i wish

>> No.32750680

>>32747364
Dude, calm down, if literal anime girls can get you up this much then maybe you should just ditch them and have some inner reflection.

>> No.32751485

>>32729346
No, my hope was that council will give myth some "shame" and motivate them to stream. But sadly it was the opposite, Council wants to be like Myth. Educate some paypigs and stream the less time possible, making excuses like "busy with projects" that never appear.
Only Kiara because she wants to be like Pekora respects the job. Sadly she is tired, talking like a month to your autistic coworkers just for an amogus colab....i cant blame her.
You have positive and negative leaders, and the queen(at least in subs) of vtubing is in your branch but only streamed 60 hours this year.

>> No.32751751

>>32731450
It's shit i'm not here to watch cock on my screen i'm not gay "as god intended" so i don't watch cock unlike you.

>> No.32751806

>>32729346
I've moved on from Hololive

>> No.32754466

>>32729346
No

>> No.32754715
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32754715

>>32730397
STOP TAKING AMERICANS PLEASE.
Australians are better than americans at this point, Christ take ESL's over any more americans.

>> No.32754740

>>32751751
I don’t know how you are seeing cock when everyone is fully clothed.

>> No.32754827

>>32754740
he has x-ray vision

>> No.32754919

>>32729346
Not after tempiss. Now I have to worry about EN3 collabing with them.

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32754924

>>32751751
>Only consumes media made by and starring women.
>Not gay.

>> No.32755167

>>32754924
>Watches males
>Not gay

>> No.32755611

>>32729346
Nah I've had one foot out the door since the shitty offcollab, which was basically a send off for fans who supported them since day one. Recent events have just poisoned the well even if a few are still good. Im happy with my new oshi, a 3 view on twitch (worst part)

>> No.32755725

>>32754919
you won't have to worry because omegay will make sure to hire those that will collab with males for sure. So it's a certainty not something to worry about

>> No.32758796

>>32755725
Omegay sure sounds hella Based if she's getting the girls to have more social interactions with guys and better social interactions overall.

Also if co-workers fall in love with eachother then I'm not against it.

>> No.32760174

>>32758796
t. Biggest Stars fan since less than 2 months ago.

>> No.32760375

>>32729632
A few weeks ago I would have mocked you for saying this, but it increasingly feels like western management is pushing them as such.

>> No.32760438

>>32729346
Depends, if they can compete with vshojo on whorishness then yes, vtubers exist to arouse their audiences.
I'm tired of prudes saying otherwise, sjws by another name.

>> No.32760839

>>32760438
Based.

>> No.32761360

>>32729346
The only way to make a good, new EN gen is to make one completely removed from the current ones so the rot doesn't spread, with minimal to no contact.

>> No.32761433

>>32729346
No Tempiss pretty much killed all excitement I had. I only watch like 2 EN girls these days.

>> No.32761462

>>32758796
Don't call him she.

>> No.32761644

>>32754715
This. English is so common around the world that finding english-speaking, non-american talents should be no problem. Besides, girls with accents are cute.

>> No.32762405

>>32754715
Someone's been ignoring how the two Australians already in EN are not particularly well liked...

>> No.32763329

>>32729346
I honestly don't give a fuck anymore

>> No.32763674

>>32761462
I don't care she looks female enough + she's most likely a female.

>> No.32763716

>>32729462
My favorite character is also Bejita, forgot to mention that.

>> No.32764424

>>32729346
Is it safe to say EN3 will just be NijiEN rejects since the gender carrier that JP enjoys now no longer exists in EN and ID

>> No.32765355

The hate on males in this thread is so bad that I'm starting to think you guys are secretly feminists and sjws

>> No.32765383

>>32729346
Yes, very much.

>> No.32765440

>>32765355
They might as well be. They are equivalent of ugly girls hating pretty girls because out of jealousy.

>> No.32765504

>>32765355
Wanting women to not interact with males doesn't sound feminist to me.

>> No.32765517

Never did. Didn't care for Council too.
Myth and Irys does it for me.

>> No.32765708

>>32765504
HAHA you are delusional. Read your comment again. It absolutely sounds feminist and anti-patriarchy.

>> No.32765775

>>32765708
Things I learned. Islam is feminist.

>> No.32765819

>>32729346
There's no talent left on the market

>> No.32765908

>>32765504
most extreme feminists are man haters. For an example look up kronii
also the horseshoe theory at work

>> No.32766170

>>32765504
It's the whole "women are better than men in every conceivable way to the point that if they even collabed with a male then they're tarnished forever" thing

>> No.32766205

>>32765908
uh, kronii didn't sound like much of a man hater to me

>> No.32766294

>>32766205
yeah, she also sounds like a woman, but guess again buddy

>> No.32766495

Didnt care after EN1
Now im scared after EN2
We are on a massive downward trend now we just gotta see how low we can go

>> No.32766506

>>32729346
No, not anymore.

>> No.32766884

>>32765775
Islam tells you not to let your women interact with other nen without your consent.

And here's the thing, these vtubers are not our girls, they're Yagoo's girls, and it seems that he gave them full consent to interact with the guys.

>> No.32768944

I should never have even been excited for EN1

>> No.32769273

>>32768944
Why thought, you still have countless good memories with them, relish those moments and be glad that you have spent the good days with them before ditching them after they've became "bad".

>> No.32769412

>>32762405
Australians are basically Burger-Lites

>> No.32770386

Moved onto smaller corpos, HoloEN is just Nijilite now and it's boring.

>> No.32776064

>>32770386
I was hoping Tempus would be like their senpai and reach out to the smaller agencies, but it looks like they'll be exactly like HoloEN and only care about Vshojo, big twitch streamers and keep up with the dumb Romeo and Juliet dance with NijiEN.

>> No.32776195

>>32731450
If I wanted to watch vshojo, i'd watch vshojo

>> No.32776420

>>32776064
Blame magni, he's a twitch leech to his core

>> No.32776873

>>32776064
what did you expect? they're western male ecelebs with almost zero understanding of "Japanese culture" outside of surface level shit like watching shonen anime and being aware of hentai. While western ecelebs are blatant whores and not in a "hahaha funny meme xDD anime daddy a slut!" way, the Japanese ones tend to at least try and be respectable and think about others before making a move. Think of it like this: Westerners will nonchalantly throw their garbage out the window while driving, Japanese will go out of there way and find the nearest recycling/garbage bin, or at the very least hold onto their garbage until they get home.

>> No.32777919

>>32776873
>they're western male ecelebs with almost zero understanding of "Japanese culture" outside of surface level shit like watching shonen anime and being aware of hentai.

Aren't you pretty much describing this entire board at this point Anon, don't throw stones when you live in a glass house.

>> No.32778798

>>32776873
I doubt absolutely everyone who auditioned to StarsEN is like that. Granted I shouldn't expect anything from EN, but I hoped things would be different this time. And even if Altare, Vesper and Axel were indies I doubt they'll do anything other than reach out to their old friends and keep ignoring pretty much everyone else like how HoloEN does.

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>>32729346
Nope, already lost any hope of seeing good holoEN as long as troonmega exist.
I care less about their future debuts than nijiENshits.
Look at tempiss, shinove played major part in choosing the boys and they are better chuubas than en girls.
If anyone thinks council is bad, wait 2 months after holoEN3 debuts and they will proof they are somehow even worse.

>> No.32780158

>>32729346
I've moved on to kawaii and I can't imagine EN3 being good enough to pull me back

>> No.32782836

>>32779634
>shinove played major part in choosing the boys
Shinove literally knew nothing about them anon

>> No.32785260

>>32729346
If the designs are as bad as Tempus and or outfit designs as bad ID3 . I'm out

>> No.32785350

>>32729346
The idea of HoloEN in general is dead to me. Moved on a while ago even before tempus. Too many lazy whores.

>> No.32785857

>>32729346
I gave up on most of EN with the first tempiss collab. Now I'm only subbed to Gura, Kiara and Fauna.

>> No.32786077

>>32729346
StarsJP>HoloJP>StarsEN>HoloEN>HoloID
I haven't watched HoloEN in ages, so they'd actually have to get a talented, good streamer to make me pay attention to any of them. I like the Stars a little more than HoloJP, and the EN Stars don't really feel like Stars lately with how much they're collabing with the girls, so even their 2nd gen might not be worth waiting for unless they get someone good who actually wants to be a Holostar instead of Nijilite. Not really worth watching.

>> No.32786784

bet all of them are going to be whores.

>> No.32789964

>>32729346
No, not after seeing how the first 2 gens turned out. And tell your manager to stop the retarded homo collabs.

>> No.32790206

>>32729346
>EN3 is Homo accessories
Sorry Holobros, EN is a Sunk Cost Fallacy already
>JP will still be our paradise though, thanks to JPbros

>> No.32790269

>>32786077
StarsEN will never ever feel like StarsJP. The usual HoloEN suspects will make sure to include them on every single collab they can and as already mentioned in this thread they'll never try to reach out to other agencies like how StarsJP does. They'll be exactly like HoloEN but with guys and the occasional StarsJP collabs.

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>>32729346
Honestly, no, the magic is gone

>> No.32790659

>>32790389
Yeah, I dont expect much for EN3 considering the ENs Nijification
>I hope yagoo push them away from the JP girls
>we dont need to poison the JP well too

>> No.32790884

>>32729346
give me tempus 2 anything that makes unicorns seeethe is good for me

>> No.32790946

>>32729346
No

>> No.32791039

Only graduations give me emotions.

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>>32790884
Okay Joker, you won!

>> No.32791218

>>32790269
I know, I've pretty much given up on them unless they change their tune. Really disappointing.

>> No.32791316

>>32791218
What happen to homos telling fans that they will live and die on their solo content?

>> No.32793114

>>32729346
yes

>> No.32793290

>>32791316
They pretty much do, but one of their appeals is a kind of guys boys club kind of thing, in contrast to the usual CGDCT you see other anons talk about here in relation to hololive. I like that part of them, but they just feel like normal streamers. That doesn't mean they can't be good, I like Noir for instance, but they don't feel like Holostars.

>> No.32793451

I've never been excited for new gens. What's the point? There are already too many members

>> No.32793505

>>32793290
>they just feel like normal streamers
This is what I dislike about some vtubers, I want it to feel like an anime character or something. I don't want to be reminded that I'm watching someone who probably tried to be a traditional streamer last time and failed. What are some traditional streamer groups that are all female?

>> No.32793801

>>32793290
>they just feel like normal streamers
What the point of becoming a vtuber then?

>> No.32793819

>>32729346
Yeah just like previous gens there might be 1 or 2 chuubas that are worth watching, just stop going for stoners or some shit. Hoping for an actual good chuuba with italian or french accent.

>> No.32794672

>>32729346
more sluts for holostar cock

>> No.32798505

>>32793505
Yeah, one example which gave me a bad feeling was Noirs debut where he called his papa and mama his artist and rigger. It wasn't huge or anything but jarring in respect to the immersion of it all.
>What are some traditional streamer groups that are all female?
None that I know of. That's one of the huge appeals I think of Hololive and Holostars that people ignore, it has a unique feeling that others don't have but people just act like it's about unicorns and PaRAsOcIaLs.

>> No.32800211

>>32729346
Why shouldn't it?

>> No.32801006

>>32790884
After treading upon the cancer that is this thread I wholeheartedly agree, the community needs to be cleansed of these entitled kids so they might hopefully finally touch grass.

>> No.32801213

>>32798505
That does pretty much sounds like a parasocial relationship to me, if that's the only thing that's appealing to you then maybe you should just consider getting an actual real-life girlfriend.

>> No.32801643

>>32801213
Literally any relationship you have with a streamer can be considered "parasocial", that's what streamers are. You just need to avoid a weird level of parasocial like gachi levels, white knight levels or something. Also I've said I like the guys more because they've got a more guys club kind of feel, I don't really want a girlfriend right now if I'm being honest, shit would be a pain in my ass. I just like the unique appeal they offer in streaming is all.

>> No.32801711

>>32729346
I'm fairly settled on my oshi, so unless some girl comes in who fulfills all my kinks I'm mostly interested for the sake of new girls for Mumei to interact with.

>> No.32801778

>>32801213
Did you reply to the wrong post?

>> No.32801843

>>32798505
There's a bunch of all guy traditional streaming/youtube groups. Holostars just have anime avatars.

>> No.32801846

>>32729346
Nope after the tempiss shiet

>> No.32801903

>>32731450
i will defy the god

>> No.32801911

>>32801213
Does your gf give you parasocial relationship? That's really fucking sad.

>> No.32801925

more whores that collab with men? no thanks

>> No.32802066

>>32729346
Yes mixed collabs are great

>> No.32802830

>>32801911
I meant if you want the girls to give their undiluted attention to you and only you then maybe you should consider getting a real girl instead of simping one online.

>> No.32802972

>>32802830
You seem to have replied to the wrong post or something, then. The guy was talking about Noir immersion breaking. Regardless, whoever actually expects a 1 on 1 relationship with a vtuber is a fucking idiot. Don't lump them with the GFE enjoyers.

>> No.32804349

>>32729346
I need EN3 NOW

>> No.32806047

>>32729346
No. They should've stopped at Myth. The majority of Myth and Council are uninteresting and another Gen couldn't possibly be any better.

>> No.32806190

>>32729346
I already have enough vtubers on my plate. If I end up really liking one or two of the new girls I might sub to them and watch less of my non-favorites to make room but it's not like I'm jonesing.

>> No.32806773

>>32729346
No need to rush, I'm having fun on the adventuring team, zomboid and in the future dnd ttrpg could be cool. New gen would just strangle the guys. Management should discipline the old gen instead, they forgot what their role is and act like some third rate celebs. I suggest Myth be given a reboot, everyone get back in character and have MANDATORY Myth collabs. Team building is needed because these cocky cunts can't work together.

>> No.32807146

>>32731450
>you can't even coom to your oshi when accompanied with a male
If you do, you are the weirdo, weirdo.

>> No.32807322

>>32731450
Personally as a homofan I am against collabs for the reason Vesper explained:
https://youtu.be/FglhuBm9QY8
Tl;dw:
>Collabs shouldn't be seen as an avenue for growth, creators should live or die by their solo content
>Collabs should be to learn something from the other person (how they set up their stream, how they carry convos, etc.) or because you genuinely enjoy the company of the other person

Given that attitude, I'm willing to believe the rrat that management is pushing collabs on them they can't deny outside their homo/stars collabs.

>> No.32807606

>>32729346
does the idea of new holostars debuts in general excite anyone anymore? hololive is past its prime in popularity.
i'd rather fun indies.

>> No.32807714

>>32729346
What we need is mori and ame graduation

>> No.32809250

I just hope it's more Myth than Council cause Council is just... well, not talented enough to make consistent engaging content.

>> No.32809311

>>32729346
No. They'll never stream, act woke and entitled, and be just more of the same shit.

>> No.32809499

>>32807322
Thanks dude, I've never actually seen it that way, this video has opened my eyes, never thought vesper was this wise, and after some thinking I kinda agree that management might be trying convince them to do collabs, but I still don't believe they have any ill intentions behind them.

>> No.32809558

>>32807322
Why would they refuse a collab invitation from their senpais?

>> No.32809600

>>32809250
EN3 needs to be it's own thing, with the only thing from Myth they should have is someone as dedicated to music as Mori is (and obviously not another rapper). Another Myth will not be much better than another Council.

>>32809499
While they might not have ill intentions it definitely feels like an overcorrection from how StarsJP were treated, especially with how HoloEN and ID were allowed to collab with them before their actual senpai.

>> No.32809733

>>32807322
While I agree with Vesper, some of the most memorable content are the group collabs of each Gen. Mixing gens can get chaotic and nonsensical, but sometimes yields gems like JP's Rust anime plot.

Ergo, I am assuming he is referring to one on one collabs and not group collabs, in which case, he is 100% correct.

>> No.32809961

>>32809733
Spamming collabs with the hopes of a memorable moment isn't much better. The Rust arc was kino because of their different personalities they built of from their own solo streams, like how Pekora who's always a loner ended up becoming the last boss with everyone (that mattered) in the server trying to destroy her nigh impenetrable fortress complete with her own iron dome. If the only type of streams they do are collabs they'll never truly develop their own humor since it'll most likely ended up completely dependent on how well it bounces off their partners, and if you can't be entertaining by yourself you'll be just a background character for those big group collabs.

>> No.32809967

>>32729346
no.

>> No.32810834

>>32809961
Yeah, I agree, collabs should enhance someone, not drown them out. Hence, mixed gen collabs should be really rare.

>> No.32811438

>>32809961
>The Rust arc
I have a rrat for you
>EN doesn't really want to play Rust but forced by the management (except IRyS and goob)
>So the EN girls just play the game like a single player w/o any goal or motivation to participate in Rust events (for the sake of "I played it mane-chan").
>That why in the last rust event, their playing on their own little world while the Massive kino is happening somewhere.

then S3 starts
>EN stil doing the same shit ingame w/o any plans or motivation to participate in future events.

Fuck this whores already
I hope they dont get invited to Holofest 2023 and eventually graduate all of them(except IRyS and goob).

>> No.32811613

>>32810834
Honestly the only mixed gen collabs I'm interested are cover/original songs and the rare karaoke collab like how Rikka did with Mori and AZKi. The RiTunes Labo he did with Mori managed to not be a complete awkward slog like the bunny game collab and was actually good, especially with them singing what was probably the best rendition of Spiral Tones without the retarded auto-tune (I don't remember if Mori's birthday live had it). I know not every Holopro member is focused on music but that's what pulled me in back in the day and just game collabs can only do so much for me.

>>32811438
I don't think forced is really the word here, but I don't think it's far-fetched to think they were influenced by management considering how it became this big social game with all branches playing and interacting with each other. But we'll only know it for certain if they try the exact same thing during S3's finale, and now they don't really have an excuse since some of them started playing on pretty much day 1.

>> No.32811870

>>32809733
Adding males to the all-girls environment ruins the experience.

>> No.32811890

>>32729346
More than ever. Hopefully they like to stream

>> No.32816281

>>32729346
yes

>> No.32817479

>>32809250
I wouldn't say council is bad, if I was in charge of the scouting I would have done the same choices, even Sana.
Now, that their performance while working in the company resulted in something different than what you expected from the scouting phase, is another matter.

>> No.32820148

>>32729346
It gives me hope

>> No.32820287

>>32729632
this

>> No.32820323

>>32817479
How can you say that when you don't know what the alternatives were?

>> No.32820458

>>32820323
Do we even known about girls who auditioned for EN2 and went deep enough in the process?

>> No.32820474

>>32729346
No. I won't even check them out if/when they debut because getting involved makes no sense since maletubers came to be. Unless they explicitly state that they won't collab or acknowledge males I simply don't care.

>> No.32820877

>>32820474
The males ruined the kayfabe which is the whole point of VTubing.

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