BASED

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How can someone be so based ?
i love her

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>>32728971
If she graduates she can do whatever she wants as an indie.
She has no respect for Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

Why do you care if /vt/ likes your oshi?

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>>32728971
Betrayal is nothing to be proud of.

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>>32728971
While that's indeed based, there's a reason the quote "costumer is a king" exists.
Entertainers have to balance what they wants vs what their fans wants, if not they will lose either their sanity or their money and popularity.

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>>32729062
>Says the one disrespecting Hololive

Lol lemao even

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>>32728971
>I do what I want
>but pay me for it anyway
Why are women so entitled?

[Anonymous No.]

>'if you don't like it, don't watch'

Literally every cancelled Netflix showrunners said this before their first episode aired

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>>32728971
Why are teacucks so pathetic?

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>>32728971
when did she say this and why? I haven't been keeping up

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>>32729176
Ame has never, EVER, given a fuck about popularity or earning.

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>>32729224
You don't have to pay her, sometimes she even turns off SCs

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>>32729434
Yeah, but she still thinks she can do whatever she wants and remain employed. Imagine anyone in just about any other job having this mindset.

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>>32729727
Well i mean, the company lets their talents collab with males and even give incentive. If male collabs was an employment breach Amelia would have been fired.
Cover just needs to ban males

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>>32729182
Not him, but hololive was marketed as an idol company since gen 3.
Having half the EN girls and ID reject idol culture intentionally to spite the idol fans is really disrespectful to the core mission that Yagoo lined out with his creation of hololive.

Numbers for the holoEN girls have really fallen into the toilet and just turning into shittier version of nijiEN comes across as both really desperate and disrespectful to the JP senpai who they had previously collabed with before.

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>>32729424
then why did she apply to join hololive? Popularity and money not a factor? Why bother then instead of doing what you want, on your own channel? You're a fucking idiot

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>>32729727
Have you read the news in the last few years? In the UK/US this is happening like all the time.

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>>32730208
Loserbait is making tempus collab with the holo girls because they can't go to japan, it's his idea of making interesting content.
The entire end goal is shipfaggotry, he wants to make a bunch of ironmouse x connors, it's the reason why kronii had to apologize for calling shipping gross so quickly, her words will be used against them in the future.

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>>32730904
No one expected them to be that popular you newfag, they expected them to get slightly bigger numbers than the ID branch.

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>>32728971
She loves Altare though

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>>32728971
>lol you're my piggy banks
>don't watch if you don't want I do what I want
>fuck the haters
--->you're here
>why is my viewership so low???
>why am I a three-view???
>IT'S THE HATERS FAULT SURELY IT'S ALL BECAUSE OF THE HATERS
Those dumb bitches really don't understand that it's not about collabs with males, but about their bitchy attitude towards the people who literally are their only source of income.

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Why do westerners think acting like a bitch towards your fans and straight up telling them to fuck off is based?

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>>32731381
Unfortunately she's not going to lose that many viewers. Most teamates are too loyal. If anything, she loses viewers because they are bored of watching Vtubers or found other commitments, not because of her attitude

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>>32731398
Most of her fans are not unicorns. She's telling a small, annoying part of her fanbase to fuck off.

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>>32728971
Release a song cunt

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>>32731485
>Unfortunately she's not going to lose that many viewers.
mori believed the same and now she's getting 2-3k viewers.

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>>32731601
You're in for a rude awakening, just because unicorns don't complain doesn't mean they aren't a huge portion of the fanbase.

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>>32731643
https://youtu.be/Jj2JFtU7c78

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>>32728971
Lazyness and ego born from unearned success
She was set for life the moment she debuted I just still dont know how this hack made it through auditions

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>>32731601
Yeah but with Ame it isn't really limited to unicorns. She straight up told her fans during a superchat reading that she doesn't give a shit whether they want to watch Elden Ring or not, she's going to keep playing it. I can't imagine having someone like that as an oshi, how do teamates deal with it? She's literally treating them as piggy banks who should be grateful for any scraps she gives them.

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>>32731601
You teacucks were by far the biggest goslings you thought you invented it kek.

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>>32731702
Only on series games. Her numbers haven't changed much from before collabing with Homos. She had huge numbers when doing "open VC" streams, collabs like eikawa and Tea Time but for solo streams they haven't really changed

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>>32730812
>hololive was marketed as an idol company since gen 3.
>disrespectful to the core mission that Yagoo lined out with his creation of hololive
so... Hololive wasn't an idol company until it magically was (and always had been) and it's disrespectful to not follow the more mission that it didn't start with. got it.

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>>32730812
Unfortunately. This is no longer the case now is it? Idols can still be idols but they're now branching out to general entertainment for the masses post-Covid.

If they were still looking to fit their idol criteria. They wouldn't have hired the girl playing Amelia Watson in the first place.

Hell even auditions have changed to accommodate just general streamers and encourage singing as a boost to have Cover look your application over and consider it.

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>>32731861
Sunk cost fallacy at this point. I can't imagine she's attracting new viewers with the scuffed content she puts out along with her frustrating Ameway.

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>>32728971
You can "do what you want" somewhere else so you don't keep shitting up my hobby, you dumb leech whore.

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>>32729062
Remember that Hololive managers approve collabs. This has the full endorcement of Hololive.

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I don’t actually think there is anything wrong with the collaboration but she is acting like a cunt about it.

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>these niggerfaggots hate Worms
Neck yourselves

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>>32731779
30s shit HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>32732048
No shit. For whatever reason, Yagoo loves the boys.

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>>32732060
Just being herself apparently lmao.

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>>32731861
>why are men this pathetic
Don't look up a fetish called findom anon.
>>32731601
I think there's more unknowing unicorns then you imagine. At the end of the day people got into hololive because it was cute girls doing cute things.

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>>32728971
bumping a bait thread just to say teacucks are a lost cause

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>>32728971
Based. Hope Gura continues ignoring this whore.

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>>32728971
Holy BASED

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>>32728971
Stop trying to astroturf controversy. Nobody cares.

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>>32729727
>Mori exist and she still employed ame indeed can do what she wants

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>>32731777
Do you have statistics? A source for your claim? Can you point to the massive dropoff in numbers after each male HoloEN collab?

This isn't Japan, unicorns really are a very small minority in the west.

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>>32732525
I got into it because they were funny, and don't care who's involved as long as it keeps being funny. Any guesses as to how large a portion of the fanbase that represents?

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>>32731303
Nothing that you wrote disproves his post.

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>>32728971
>Butt hurt person: I won't watch Ame

FTFY, there's plenty of other GFE tubers out there

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>>32728971
Ok, now tell manager-san that you're intending to tank their revenue stream.

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>>32731861
i dont watch ame but lmfao if you want to watch some insanely cucked pandering streamer who never does anything but what her viewers want
the only thing you'll ever get is the dullest most reddit streams of all time
if your oshi doesn't forge kino unshackled from being overly concerned for her own popularity, she's a puppet

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>>32740484
Considering how badly Ame has been reclining, not as much as the vocal normalfags make you think.

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>>32729062
EN was never advertised as an idol gen. You're thinking of JP

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>>32730812
see
>>32732048
>>32732213
>>32743617

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>>32731485
Reminder that Kiara, KIARA, mogged Mori in views TWICE

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>>32729176
>costumer is a king
Only people working at grocery stores or fast food restaurant local chains say or think this is true.
Corporations and management all know that the customers are retarded, usually don't know what they really want until they have the option to have it, are confused about what they're angry about or how to use something, and that the people who freak out or act insanely aggressive are drunk housewives who are miserable with their lives, drug addicts, teenagers with nothing to do or low IQ people of darker persuasion. So what does that make you?

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>>32736969
UMG could sue Cover for terminating Mori, Ame does not have that backing

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>>32740484
They can you explain her numbers?

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>>32743617
>so the one who self-advertise as an idol is doing a false ad
based, cant wait to strike gura's channel

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>>32744301
>UMG could sue Cover for terminating Mori, Ame does not have that backing
>Total bullshit
Imagine being this confidently retarded with absolutely zero knowledge about what you're talking about. Sometimes the population on this board completely demonstrates that they're primarily physical laborers or teenagers talking out of their ass and it puts all of the other stupid comments into perspective.

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When the money dries up and her mom leaves her again since she earns no money will she learn.

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>>32744620
Ok maybe not sue but terminating Mori would likely mean Cover having to pay UMG a lot of money

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>>32745018
No you fucking retard. No company would sign a contract like that. At best UMG has the right to license or use the Mori IP for some amount of time under the condition that she severs her contract with Cover. You are an insane man child.

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>>32743575
If only there was a middle ground between a boring shamelessly pandering streamer who never tries anything new and literal bitch who straight up tells you that what you want doesn't matter, you'll get what you are given and you'll pay anyway

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>>32739296
Do you have statistics for your own claim?

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>>32729411
That's the thing. She didn't say that.

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>>32743617
the classic bait and switch

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time to sell your holo stocks
cancel all memberships, stop sending superchats

a small indie streamer will be more loyal to her fanbase

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>Company has an inside joke that it's an idol company
>Even the CEO is described as an "idol" by staff, the joke being that he's more of an idol than them.
>Drama tourists and baiters looking for screencaps to share on Reddit/Twitter/where ever make unicorn bait threads.
>Entirely populate the unicorn bait threads with "no I'm really seriously so upset" comments to make /vt/ look a certain way.
>OMG GUISE 4CHAN IS SO SILLY LOOK AT THESE INCELS THEY'RE ANGWY PLEASE LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE SO I CAN AFFORD MY HRT MEDS ROFL LMAO SUS TOUCH GRASS

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>>32730812
Nothing about idol culture involves rejecting male collabs. That's very clear with Yagoo and Sora's interview with all the talents. Not only did Sora talk about and to the Holostars, but there were also Japanese comedians there.

Same actual idols and not hags larping as idols. They do collabs with male talents all the time.

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>>32728971
>Imagine being happy of your oshi treating their viewers like they don't matter
How much of a beta can one be?

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>>32729062
half six

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>>32729062
>>32729125
>>32729224
>>32729247
>>32729727
>>32731398
>>32731777

LMAO SEETHE Unicuck. You can't do shit

>>32731777
>>32745313

N-No Unicucks have POWER Its True Cuz the World Revolves Around Me!

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>>32746143
How's your pretend GF?

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>>32729062
you mean the company that made stars and tempus?

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>>32746463
I still don't have a phone

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>>32744039
The Goslings and unicorns that SC, buy merch etc in Corporations is the investors who gives lots of money. The smaller guys that are the customers are the greys or the once a month 5 dollar membership people.

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>>32745454
Disgusting

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>>32746807
>Nooooooo you just don't get how important we are!

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>>32747110
Don't even watch Ame. Just a shit example that was flawed from the ground up.

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>>32731702
>>32731885
You can't really compare holos like Mori to ones like Ame. Everyone knew Mori would interact with them. She made it clear early on that she doesn't fit the mold. Ame didn't. In fact, she assured her viewers multiple times that she wouldn't collab outside of hololive.

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>>32728971
The true leader of HoloEN. She will purge the digusting unicorns and brings us into the light of kino content. She's like Jesus Christ in a way. Persecuted for her beliefs. Ahead of her time. The last thing Jesus said to Judas was "fucking bitch"

[Anonymous No.]

How long until ame viewers are nothing but grey poorfags?

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>>32748054
>purge an environment that's different from all of the currently existing environments elsewhere
ogey

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>>32745835
>ignores the fact that there have been thousands of streams without dudes in them and certain subjects (like irl relationships etc) are conspicuously and carefully avoided
>most JPs never collab with males period vs EN-naive people pretending like it's a common thing. go on, show me the last time there was a big starsJP/holoJP collab with like 8 people in it. I'll be waiting. even if you find one, now show me a time when there were 3+ of them back to back within 3 weeks. I'll be waiting, forever, because that's never happened.
>parasocials, goslings etc crop up as a result of the girls dominating the space and the overall stream atmosphere being cute girl entertainers. not idols per se, they're actually modern geishas FYI.

It's not accident at all, Cover is just covering its ass (maybe that's why it's called that) pretending they don't know exactly what they're doing. They do, or at least JP headquarters does. EN trying to copy Nijisanji spamming male collabs is only showing how actually-fucking-dumb its management is (as if Council didn't make that clear hiring Sana and people with actually-0 talents or entertainment skills like Bae and miscasting her horribly). For all its tryhard nature with a bunch of its girls streaming twice as much as HoloENs and all the male collab spam, has NijiEN caught up to Holo? No. Are its strategies trying to get normalfags working? No, actually the opposite seeing how bad Iluna is doing.

Luxiem is the big success story but it had not much to do with pre-existing NijiEN setup at all and everything to do with Eastern women getting interested even though they weren't the target audience. Cover going for the Western brotuber audience is not gonna produce those results, plain and simple. Sacrificing the most-unique, hardest-to-reproduce part (the GFE, the cute girls experience) of already-declining EN branch to shill a bad idea is also an outright tactical and strategic error plain and simple.

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>>32746265
3!

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>>32748566
Exactly

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>>32729062
>She has no respect for Hololive
if you needed any proof that there are literal paid shills/discord troons doing a smear campaign against hololive on 4channel dot org

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Nobody joined hololive for free do you think they'll put up with stupid fucks for free? None of them have respect for the business.

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>>32728971
>I do what I want
t. every retarded westerner who later bitches about how their views dived down, but it's not their fault poor them

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>>32748566

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>>32729125

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>>32729062
>She has no respect for Hololive
Hololive need her more

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>>32745454
basef fuck that unicucks

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>>32753184

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>>32729062
>Treated like shit even before the boys came on board
>No help given for projects
>Omega being the worst manager in the history of managers
>Funded all those 3D projects out of pocket
>Built a 3D studio out of duct tape so her friend could have a 3D concert.
Cover deserves no respect and Ame is smart for riding the gravy train till it crashes.

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>>32728971
cringe

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>>32728971
hmmm

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>>32728971
that's really fucking based if you're an angsty teenager

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>>32745454
The warning signs were all there and we chose not to listen.

[Anonymous No.]

Ame is the Ghostbusters 2016 of vtubers.