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32696803 No.32696803 [Reply] [Original]

the numbers.. jesus

>> No.32696870

Whoa! Nobody cares

>> No.32696902

>>32696803
The new fans Cover wants to appease

>> No.32696915

>>32696803
Fuck off back to your retard day care thread >>>/#/

>> No.32696946

It's almost like not many care about homos and Mori/Omega keep forcing collabs to boost them.

>> No.32696948

Still better than Iluna.

>> No.32696960

>>32696803
reddit numbers

>> No.32696986

>>32696803
A FUCKING MONKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.32697084
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>>32696803
Is this their combined power?
I've seen fucking Anya outperform this.
Is this all you can conjure Tempoop?

>> No.32697273

>>32696803
Isn't that like, fantastic numbers for stars? I don't watch them but it's nice that they have thousands of fans

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>>32696803

>> No.32697400

>>32697273
Yes, uproar are at 3view level, and 3views are still the top 90% of all streamers.

>> No.32697442

>>32696803
Perhaps these guys should try to cultivate their own fanbase instead leeching off the girls.

>> No.32697483

It's like 2 Ames. Or 1 Ame and 1 Mori stacked on top of each other.

>> No.32697576

>>32697273
Not really when reddit threads about them can get like 30k updoots

>> No.32697595

>>32696803
This is why leeching is usually pretty bad. People will only care about you when you collab with the big names.

Also part 6 of fucking raft doesn’t help

>> No.32697619

>>32697273
let me put into perspective
you can make a decent living literally streaming to 500-999 people on twitch and having a part time job
vtubing has created this psychotic warped sense of success when in reality even having an active audience of some hundreds of people is literally in the 90+ percentile of all streamers to ever try to stream

>> No.32697674

Faggot Unicorn trying to pretend to be one of us NumberChads just because LE MALE VTUBER

>> No.32697699

>>32696803
Me and the thousands of homies enjoying the besties frfr

>> No.32697722

>>32697619
Anon this is way different than normal number fagging. These guys have been shoved down our throats by a loud minority for years at this point and they don't even watch.

>> No.32697729
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32697729

Gura hasn't gotten a sub-increase in 13 days.

Meaning her sub growth is less than 800 per day.

>> No.32697743

>>32697619
>Cope
>Cope
>Even more cope
These faggots are bigger flops than ILUNA. These are pathetic numbers for even HoloEN, and it’s a full gen collab. Kill yourself homobeggar

>> No.32697757

>>32697273
Yes, Aruran's vods get like 1/4th that of the ENs and he no longer has to worry financially about being a Holostar.

>> No.32697799

>>32697442
>>32697595
it's... the girls asking them for collabs, friends; the stars aren't actually allowed to talk to or mention Hololive talents until they reach out first

>> No.32697840
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>>32697729
kiara is 25 days. She's more like 300 subs per day

>> No.32697842

>>32697674
Why would numberfags be tempus enjoyers? Doesn't Luxiem get higher numbers than them?

>> No.32697862

>>32696870
>>32696915
>>32696948
>>32697273
>>32697392
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA s-stop exposing how beggars don't actually watch hololive!! SAVE ME REDDIT! SAVE ME TWITTER!

>> No.32697864

>>32697722
>These guys have been shoved down our throats by a loud minority for years at this point
How is 2025? What's the stock play I should make?

>> No.32697919

>>32696803
does raft normally pull any numbers? i kind of doubt it but i dont actually know

>> No.32697964

>>32697392
Looks like they did, Ame.

>> No.32697986
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32697986

4k viewers puts tempes into the top 1% of the top 1% of the top 1% of all live streamers in the entire world.

>> No.32697997

>>32697862
>NOOOOOOOOOO THE NOOMBERS AHHHH THEy'ER A FLOP CAUSE NOOMBERS

>> No.32698003

>>32697799
So? They still accept the invitation.
>OH! How could we ever refuse?! That would be rude! Give me those numbers regretfully please!
Leeching

>> No.32698038

>>32697919
the first collab yeah, but that was literally their first game collab, they got like 10k on zomboid just a couple days ago

>> No.32698044

>>32698003
You will never be Japanese and thus never understand

>> No.32698081
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>>32697729
But she did?
Good enough for someone who doesn't stream

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>> No.32698187

>>32697919
It's like their 4th or 5th stream of it so it's losing attention span.

>> No.32698188

>>32698003
Management forces it lol. They can't refuse. It was mentioned in the 12 hour mc stream at some point.

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32698196

>>32697840
Why does that matter?
Because any streamer can only keep people's interest for a fixed amount of time. Maybe a few weeks, a few months for more hardcore people. So you are slowly losing people over time, they are draining away. If you're not bringing new people in the front door, the result will be a decline over time.

That's why this is significant. It looks like they are starting to shrivel up.
This could have something to do with why they're desperately spamming Rust all the time now.

>> No.32698202

>>32698003
You never had a decent job in your life

>> No.32698205

>>32698038
yeah i was gonna compare it with zomboid but i couldnt remember the numbers for that either even though i actually watched it. i love being a genius

>> No.32698213

>>32697757
Astel literally goes to Disney every year

>> No.32698220

>>32698003
in what reality would they not accept

>> No.32698231

>>32698188
"force" and "encourage" are not the same thing

>> No.32698252

>>32697997
Yes anon, Hololive is a business not a charity.

>> No.32698274

>>32697743
>full gen collab
They do a "full gen collab" every other day, this isn't something special.

>> No.32698397

>>32697392
yooooo those shoes are hard tho

>> No.32698571

>>32698252
Anon, I think it's quite short sighted thinking.

Here is the current schedule of most the hololive girls.
>buff game
*3 day break*
>buff game
*5 day break*
>buff game
*2 week break*
.....etc

Is this really enjoyable to watch? Seeing them spam the same small handful of games? It's a good strategy for maximizing ccv. Longer breaks = less overlaps, and more anticipation for the return.

But I think that it's an artificial sort of growth. You're concentrating your viewers into single streams. And most of those viewers aren't actually fans of the vtuber, rather the buff-game they're playing, so it's stagnant waters.

That's where the obsession with ccv leads. No creativity, laziness, shitty content that nobody likes watching. I think this is the reason all their subs have completely crashed. They aren't actually reaching new people anymore.

>> No.32698583

>>32698196
Gura is dying off because consistency is the #1 thing for streamers. Viewers want someone who is like a TV timeslot, on 90% of the same time and at least consistent types of games or genres.
Gura is neither of these, she streams sporadically and plays kusoge once.

Vesper streams at least 5 days a week not including collabs, at the same time, doing consistent chatting content and boomer core games, and uploads videos in his offday to continually draw attention.

>> No.32698624

>>32697799
I don't know anon but looking at the number it seems people watching these guys mostly coming from the girls's audience. It means these guys don't attract new people, they are eating on the female brand. Things are gonna get worse when future gens debut because the viewer base is gonna split out just like Nijisanji fanbase. That's why I said they need to cultivate their own fanbase, no one wanna see another Nijisanji situation.

>> No.32698684

>>32698624
>I don't know anon but looking at the number it seems people watching these guys mostly coming from the girls's audience
do you have any proof or is it just the voices telling you this

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>>32698583
Gura's actually doing better than most.

>> No.32698731

Omega activate the collab project

>> No.32698758

>>32696803
NOT LIKE THIS HOMOBEGGARS

>> No.32698813

>>32698196
It's the revolving door effect with older viewers. They'll stay to watch bigger events but at this point, they pretty much saw everything a vtuber could do or say. To keep new people coming they need a 3D studio and a hub they can all create content in like concerts and whatever. JP stays relevant because the market is more manageable to promote talents and do events. Globally it's a harder task to do this and that is where Cover fails EN and is why EN slowly loses popularity.

>> No.32698827

I think most /vt/ users reject tempus because of the astrosurfing and shilling combined with them collabing with everyone, it's overexposure. Personally I don't watch these fags because why would I watch 4 boring fucks when I can watch Jerma? their live2ds/personalities/talent can't even match jerma so why should i go out of my way to watch these fags?

>> No.32698937

>>32696803
damn
no wonder they try to leech from mori's tits whenever they can

>> No.32698938

>>32696803
I knew brotuber beggars didn't suppoort male vtubers. It was all talk after all. Male chuubas should never pander to brobeggars or else they'll be a flop just like this.

>> No.32698939

>>32698827
>Shilling
Yeah, the same way Myth was shilled in September

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>>32698684
Sure anon

>> No.32699019

>>32696803
What do they mean mason?

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>>32698813
That's just the thing anon. Some of the JP's are doing fine. But a lot of them are facing the very same trend. That's because they're doing exactly what the EN's are doing, spamming buff game content. Even Pekora has been guilty of this to a certain extent.

>> No.32699071

>>32698827
if you think tempus was shilled you werent around when myth then, therefore your opinion is literally irrelevant
myth's debuts were one of the most shilled things on the internet in 2020

>> No.32699090

>>32696803
can only do the same exact stream so many times before it gets kinda boring

>> No.32699144

>>32698939
>>32698827
they didn't have to be shilled they had the eyes of everyone in the western world, the first japanese EN vtubers. these faggots didnt even get a collab ban, they didn't pay their dues and just because they have the dorito next to their name doesnt change the fact theyre failed 2views from twitch.

>> No.32699147

>>32698827
Tell me when Jerma plays FTL and Zomboid and I'll give him a shot.

>> No.32699166

>>32696803
Now you see why they are desperate to push collabs with the girls.

>> No.32699186

>>32697842
It's about getting in on the ground floor. Numberfags wanted to be "in" on Tempus hoping they'd dethrone Luxiem or something like that. It's like rooting for the underdog in a sports game.

>> No.32699213

Does anyone know Holotempus' male to female ratio?

>> No.32699238

>>32699144
>these faggots didnt even get a collab ban
they did?
mori literally said their ban was lifted a week early on her stream with noir?
hello threadnigger your mask is slipping

>> No.32699244

>>32699144
Nice try Holo shill

>> No.32699395

>>32699144
>these faggots didnt even get a collab ban

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuI-itObQdQ&t=2716s

Suck my cock catalognigger

>> No.32699434

>>32699238
>>32699395
>ends a week early because of flop numbers
kek what a flop failed gen

>> No.32699512

>>32699244
>>32699395
Nice try, homobeggar

>> No.32699562

>>32698827
Jerma has been boring when he's doing anything other than Jerma Rumble.

>> No.32699574

>>32699512
cope, seethe, cry

>> No.32699601

>>32696803
I love them but I don't care for the raft collabs honestly. Even Vesper gets higher numbers than that solo.

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>>32697986
>well at least they aren't 2views default vroid hoodie ngm indies streaming on twitch!

>> No.32699973

>>32696803
compared to their JP senpais, they are doing pretty good

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>>32698571
Your sub theory makes no sense when Gura consistently gets some of the highest sub rates in Hololive while doing nothing, and Tempus subs are completely dead despite daily streams.
Also the only Holo girl who takes that many breaks in Gura who like I mentioned has good sub growth. Sub growth has nothing to do with your content.

>> No.32700124

>>32699166
>They are desperate

Anon, the boys have never once asked for a collab. All the ones they've been a part of is because they were invited. I swear some of you blurt out the first thing that comes to your head.

>> No.32700206

>>32698231
>"force" and "encourage" are not the same thing
that's correct
the difference is that "force" would mean that management takes responsibility for controlling the talent, and "encourage" would mean that they do not

>> No.32700276

>>32700124
well they dont watch streams so it's no surprise
it's even common knowledge to people who even pay 2% attention that the holostars have an unwritten rule they can never ask the hololive girls for a collab

>> No.32700284

>>32697864
homostars en as a concept has been around since stars debut back in 2019.

>> No.32700298

>>32698583
>Gura is dying off because consistency is the #1 thing for streamers. Viewers want someone who is like a TV timeslot, on 90% of the same time and at least consistent types of games or genres.

This is exactly what made Salome big for a few days, then she went full retarded

>> No.32700380

>>32697743
what you mean? Iluna already have 3 3view streamers, while tempus still havent had a stream where the ended below 4view

>> No.32700390

>>32700298
>then she went full retarded
*nijisanji suits went full retard and made her do a shill stream that the general niji viewer base hated

>> No.32700417

>>32700284
You haven't even been watching vtubers since 2019

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>> No.32700512

>>32700390
On point with that, thanks for the correction

>> No.32700626

>>32700124
And they can reject it but they are desperate for relevance which only comes from leeching the girls. Cope homobeggar.

>> No.32700723

>>32697986
That's a comparison to all VTubers--they're in Hololive, son. A generation-wide collab, this soon after debut, getting not even 4K CCV is laughably embarrassing--especially seeing as how strongly we've been forced to drink the tempiss by Cover.

>> No.32701172

>>32700723
Your mind has been corrupted by Arabian digits

>> No.32701290

>>32701172
I'm not even a numberfag, or a unicorn. I'm a Nijifag, if anything. I still hate tempus tho.

>> No.32701353

Vinny is a better streamer than every single holo.

>> No.32701487

Raft is a shit game that's boring as fuck and POV is debuffed cause the Dingo is an awkward streamer. Also competing with Fauna's kino minecraft stream, so it's a triple whammy.

>> No.32701733

>>32697964
I'm happy for them.
>>32698397
They really are, I wish I had one of those.

>> No.32701924

>>32701290
>I'm a Nijifag, if anything. I still hate tempus tho.
Cringe

>> No.32703206

>>32701290
Try harder unicuck

>> No.32703923

>>32698196
Oh, so I'm not "people" because I've kept interest for years now?

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>>32696803
>/vt/
>watching streams
OGEY

>> No.32704112

>>32703923
If you watch Gura i wouldn't consider you a person.

>> No.32704134

>>32696803
Pretty good, no?

>> No.32704417

>>32704112
what do you consider me then?

>> No.32704715

>>32704417
Carbon waste.

>> No.32705330

>/MANS/
>everyone is consistently watching streams
>the boys are streaming almost continuously, tons of content
>tourists get a threadly reminder not to talk about other chuubas unless there's literally a collab happening at that moment
>everyone having a good time
Meanwhile numberniggers and catalog tourists apparently think the /MANS/posters are begging for collabs 24/7 and despairing over their numbers. Kinda funny.

>> No.32706135

>>32700626
This argument is so fucking stupid and I’m tired of seeing this shit every time because the person behind this argument is a butthurt gachi that still thinks a girl talking to a guy equates to the girl getting railed by every guy in HoloPro.

Also to further destroy this fucking narrative that Tempus wants to leech off the girls, Vesper himself, his stream right before his first Mori collab, he says collabs do not generate growth, that a content creator lives and dies by their solo content. Collabs do not bring in new viewership because the multiple fanbases show up only for their team and very rarely ever stick around to watch the other talents.

So yea suck my dick you insecure threadnigger fuckers.

https://youtu.be/lKtYx7-tN_c

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>>32696803
Hehe niji deflection >>32700852

>> No.32706588

>>32705330
Why don't you go live in your faghetto full-time if it's so wonderful?
Leave us unworthy schizos to rot here while you go have fun in your magical homoland.
And never come back please.

>> No.32706592

>>32696803
That shit is going to nose dive harder in 3 months

>> No.32706727

>>32704715
Am I a good carbon waste?

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>>32696803
Once you leave the Hololive bubble and check other streamers (Not talking about Stars or Niji or even Vtubers) you notice that Holo is the exception not the rule and that people like OP only warp people's perception of what quality content and success is and now when I see my fav youtuber that I've followed for years and he pulls up 500 viewers on his stream I compare the numbers and get mad.

>> No.32706949

>>32696803
ah, so this is the reason for all the collab spam
fucking leeches

>> No.32707231

>>32706949
Have you bothered to even read the rest of the thread or realize that this was near the beginning of the stream you absolute fucking mongoloid

>> No.32707504

>>32705330
Obsessing over women turns your mind into that of a woman, it's why the numberfags are so psychotic and /mans/ is one of the few normal generals aside from the cringe homos and fujos coomposting.

>> No.32707583

>>32696803
Number niggers. If you niggers actually worried about the important numbers (your own net worth) you wouldn't be here being niggers. I'll never understand nigger brains. The one time they try to look at statistics and numbers, it's about stupid shit like ratings and game scores. I'm getting nigger fatigue from this board.

People like me who have already won at life don't bother with this poor man shit.

>> No.32707743

>>32707504
The Coomposting is a defense mechanism against the fucking retards that try to shit things up. It’s why those daphposter niggers stopped trying to shit up /mans/ for a while until right this moment and then once the stream starts they will fuck off again

>> No.32707744

>>32707231
t. Homoshill

>> No.32707767

>>32707231
Didn't ask homo

>> No.32707811

>>32700015
>Being lazy is good
Imagine desperate enough to promote this

>> No.32707824

>>32707744
>>32707767
Nice phones gachinigger

>> No.32707868

>>32705330
Hang yourself

>> No.32707923
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>>32696803
Lol for all the brigading twitter retards, homobeggars, and fujos shitting up the board day to day about tempus their numbers for a full 4man collab are worse than a low tier solo en stream. How embarassing

>> No.32707943

>>32707824
>muh samefag
nobody likes you tourist faggots

>> No.32708012

>>32697273
It's also way better than a lot of the new Niji gen. Scarle and whatsherface would kill for these numbers. StarsEN seem to have 2 to 6k locked in as an audience. With it going to 8-10k on some specific streams. It's a strong base. They're making money, while having a fanbase small enough to connect with. The only ones who think its a failure are vt

>> No.32708082

>>32706135
I like how no one wants to touch this post because Vesper destroys the anti’s narrative.

>> No.32708199

>>32707923
>Lol
Kys

>> No.32708205

I don't get this thread, isn't it pretty good? Please help me I'm retarded

>> No.32708350

>>32696803
3view kek

>> No.32708384

>>32708205
Just Unicorns not believing that Tempus was a success, sanalites were kept being made fun of so they went to support tempus.

>> No.32708400

>>32708205
Niggers shitposting about nigger things. That's all you need to understand about subhumans.

>> No.32708459

>>32708012
Frankly their subscription to concurrent viewers ratio is quite good compared to most vtubers. New Niji gen across the board has nearly double the subscriber count of each Tempus member, but often half their CCV. I imagine the coming membership streams are going to be pretty nuts for them, seems like the Tempus regulars are consistently showing up.

>> No.32708484

>>32708199
Truth stings too much faggotchama?
Instead of shitting up threads you should prolly watch their streams, they could use every view

>> No.32708497

>>32706135
You just ended the thread, Vestie. Good work, see you at /mans/ later

>> No.32708503

>>32708205
Unicorns so used to 10k viewerships they don’t realize that Tempus has several times the CCV of the JP Holostars who are in 800-2K CCV average

>> No.32708595

Lmao Tempus boys are literally getting more viewers than half the Holo/Niji EN average viewership for casual streams

>> No.32708859

>>32708484
>malds
Kek. Seethe more.

>> No.32708894

Numberfagging aside, this board really hate these guys for just existing, huh? Because from what I know since I bothered to look it up, most of the reasons why they are hated here is not even their fault.

>> No.32708955

>>32701290
>nijifag
>unicorn
Nice oxymoron, faggot.

>> No.32709046

>>32708894
They are guilty for the crime of exposing unicorns’ oshis as nothing more than cheap and lazy 20 dollar hookers

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>>32696803
>>32697862
I don't care about numbers no matter who it is. I recommend you do the same.

>> No.32709105

>>32708894
Sure thing holoshill. Everyone's fault but theirs.

>> No.32709118

>>32708894
Lurk more newfag.

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>>32696803
Raft is shitty game. If it were something interesting, like incoming D&D stream, then it would reach about 8k.
Yes, even then it wouldn't be much, but to be honest they have to create their own audience. Every fan of holoEN that cared about entertainment value instead of cute girls doing cute things moved to Tempus. Now they have to actually develop fanbase outside Hololive.
Nowa understands it and does some kind of summarizations of streams, because he understands that YouTube is made for and optimized around videos. Only japs and small part of most autistic weebs are using it to watch streams. Twitch is still main platform for it, so in a long run it HololiveEN is killing themselves, so I guess in a year Nowa will get similar numbers to girls, not because he will get astonishing growth, but because girls are going to become irrevelant

>> No.32709156

>>32709105
>>32709118
Nice phones

>> No.32709175

>>32696803
I think Tempus JP would be a huge success. Why isn't it a thing yet?

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32709190

>>32708859
>malds
Nice bringing your zoomerspeak, try to look anymore like a fucking tourist

>> No.32709284

>>32709105
>holoshill
Just kys already.

>> No.32709297
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32709297

>>32708384
>Tempus was a success

>> No.32709312

>>32709105
>>32709118
But really though, do tell me why they deserve the hate. I am willing to listen because it truly seems like is just a personal preference or just people being upset because these random guys are collabing with their oshi.

>> No.32709346

>The year is 2023
>HoloEN off-pako incident
>everything blows up
This scandal will destroy entire Hololive reputation causing Cover retreating from English market and terminate all talents. You read it here first.

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>>32696803
Don't worry Ame will save them.

>> No.32709546

>>32709190
>posts his self pic and malds even harder
LMAO just take the L. Mcdonald nigger.

>> No.32709599

>>32709175
StarsJP were bullied by unicorns since pre-debut for the same reasons they tried snuff Tempus in the cradle and only recently have they begun to finally shine.
EN Unicorns are mad that not only have they failed to make Tempus irrelevant, they have consistently higher numbers than were expected with a dedicated fandom, and Tempus constantly laughs and mock them in every stream. Altare casually being able to name drop Kronii like it’s fucking nothing despite her shitshow shows he doesn’t give a fuck about anyone or anything that doesn’t directly affect them. They aren’t the battered wives like their JP counterparts were for years.

>> No.32709650

>>32706135
Moona's popularity skyrocketed after collabing with pekora, and yes, it was a lot of pekora's fanbase
Moona's popularity didn't crater, but it certainly dwindled a bit after announcing that she didn't want to collab with pekora because she didn't want to feel like a leech
And that's just a holo example, in the real world streamers live and die by networking
So yes, collabs CAN affect your popularity, by quite a lot in fact

>> No.32709784

>>32696803
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pj9fjB0YhU

>> No.32709855

>>32709599
>StarsJP were bullied by unicorns since pre-debut for the same reasons they tried snuff Tempus in the cradle and only recently have they begun to finally shine.
I didn't know miyabi and izuru collabed with the girls at the first chance they had (not counting the period were they were straight up banned mind you)
Also forgot about the time the guys joked about being horny for the holo staff

>> No.32710041

>>32709855
>Also forgot about the time the guys joked about being horny for the holo staff
lol so did en just straight up copy that for a joke or something

>> No.32710131

>>32698624
IDK why, kind of strange man. What did those guys ever do to those women? Why those women want to give them so much? Nepotism?

>> No.32710139

Homobeggar cope thread?

>> No.32710166

>>32709855
Ah yea because you guys totally liked the idea of Tempus when they were announced. Should I just ignore all the doomposting you guys did?

>> No.32710229

>>32706592
No they will survive by becoming collab machine, leeching at anything they can

>> No.32710301

>>32706135
All talk
This guy regularly collab with other people despite saying muh solo content. Some of the best solo streamers are from HololiveJP but you fags just couldn't understand them.

>> No.32710385

>>32710301
>this means nothing because HoloJP has best content
Strokechama?
>inb4 reading comprehension
STROKECHAMA?

>> No.32710580

>>32696803
Homobeggars... DON'T LOOK

>> No.32710790

>>32697986
>>32698103
>Homobeggars have been reduced to 2 view cope
HAHAHAHAHA, hopefully the homos will meet your expectations soon

>> No.32710791

>>32710166
Should I remind of the sheer amount of support this place had for them compared to literally every other site on the planet? And most of the shitposting died when they explicitly said they wanted to collab with their JP senpais instead of the EN senpais, the shitposting only got revived by Mori

>> No.32711898

>>32709500
This woman can't even produce an original song. It's freakin 3 years already

>> No.32712263

>Hahaha fuck you incel unicorns!!!
>A unicorn makes this thread
>AIEEEE how dare you banter back at us!!!
can so called "tempuschads" really not handle shit talk? after shitting on unicorns so much?

>> No.32712395

>>32706588
anon i dont think you realize this since it's na hours but during jp primetime the majority arent unicucks

>> No.32714097

lol kek

>> No.32714722

>>32696803
Stop breaking containment faggots!

>> No.32716186

It's more like vtuber are a niche thing that tapped out its potential. They were already a niche of a niche that was the anime/otaku culture. Anyone who was going to be a fan is already one, thats just the nature of an audience that represents being eternally online . Hololive represents the totality of the market, other chuubas are on an upward trend as hololive fans get filtered down. JP numbers are crazy, but you forget their audience is localized. VOD views tend to level out pretty fast after a stream.

EN management got a lucky break with Myth but mistook their luck as their own competence. Which is unfortunate, I really think if Myth had more slow and normal growth in the beginning, their attitudes would be completely different. It just seems like the massive fame overwhelmed them and they never really got to grow into Hololive, and some of them have outright disdain for their own audience. This is literally unthinkable in JP.

They can say that they appreciate their audience but they don't know it in their bones. I really pray that EN3 is different

>> No.32716804

>>32696803
cuz raft is boring, they need to do zomboid or deep rock galactic or v rising, something cool to look at or has enough action.

>> No.32720484

>>32696803
Where were the homobeggars?

>> No.32721425

They need to spin off EN branches into their own legal entity in the US or something so they don't need to permission beg and can play some actual good games.

>> No.32721762

>>32716186
Then why is Gura still getting 20k with a random shitty MC stream? Let's be honest, there is still an untapped market somewhere but management is extremely retarded and completely killed every potential this branch had.
Homos getting these numbers after the nonstop shilling, collabs and beggars calling anyone who doesn't watch them an incel is pretty pathetic.

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As a Mexican I find it disgustingly offensive to confuse a Puerto Rican as a Mexican, especially if it comes from a dirty South Korean immigrant, South Korea a country that is a colony of the United States of America should not insult another gringo colony, a Chinese has no right to classify others races, Mexico, unlike Puerto Rico, defended its country from invaders such as gringos, Spaniards, French and even went to fight against the Japanese to free their Filipino brothers, Mexico is an independent country, not a gringo colony like Puerto Rico, South Korea and Japan, Magni Dezmond you are in my Narco list be preparing your dirty Chinese head to be beheaded.

Tldr: the Janny is a faggot

>> No.32724787

>>32724567
based beanerbro

>> No.32724915

>>32696803
I stopped watching them when they started fornicating with the girls. Apparently I'm not the only one and apparently it was a good call considering the peope Magni associates with on stream.

>> No.32725008

>>32696803
Magni collabed with some SJW chink woman who called whites snow roaches and brought in politics. What did he expect?

>> No.32725032

>>32698827
I've really tried to give them a chance but they're just sorta boring. Why should I watch them when I could watch the guy at least 2 of them are trying to consciously emulate (NL)? Especially if they're just pale immitations? Them now injecting political grifter shit via Daph and them being down with unironic racists is really the last nail in the coffin, honestly.

>> No.32725260

>>32700284
lmao what is this retard smoking?

>> No.32725795

So what are these boys to you dramatourist niggers? Leeches or a failure? A success and lucky breakout? I didnt know you could be a fucking leech when you work in the same company as your co workers. Numberfagging has really rotted all your brains to the point of no return. Go back to being drama leeches and trying to incite drama in between the talents. You retards are worse than the chink script kiddies formulating gayops against Coco and trying to turn Aqua against her in their gay ass chats and forums in 2020. This board needs to be nuked.

>> No.32726032

>>32698624
>I don't know anon but looking at the number it seems people watching these guys mostly coming from the girls's audience
That's literally not true, the only boost in subscribers came from Altare's collab with Kobo and even then that hasn't changed his CCV on his streams at all.

>> No.32727658

>>32724915
He hates Peterson too. Bringing politic into entertainment never a smart move

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