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>> No.32378647
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.32378657

>>32374719
Oh, I know how this goes a few months from now.
> recline due to streams getting boring or breaks or content drought = MALE COLLABS KILLED HER
> no recline, but same average = MALE COLLABS STALLED HER GROWTH
> insane incline = wow, Kobo's doing so well, she must be super entertaining

>> No.32378679

>>32378391
I guess for the ESL's who take things too literally I have to spell it out. Yes, he could change his content easily, but he can't attract the right audience for that content easily because his reputation precedes him. That is not so easily taken care of, its in fact very difficult to change reputation, Kizuna Ai could tell you the same. He would be a total shitter and just lose his current audience.

>> No.32378687

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pdDiUsjeKs

>> No.32378710

>>32378581
>the nips have records going back to early 2020 when niji was on top
After VNUMA died very few people have the complete record that can be cross checked
Their recordkeeping is spotty as fuck, it was them giving August 2021 to Nijis, only for lads here to find out they fucked up and it went for Holos

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>118,899: Ayame (Hololive)
>70,948: Botan (Hololive)
>43,980: Marine (Hololive)
>38,842: Shinomiya Runa (VSPO)
>37,967: Subaru (Hololive)
>26,365: Subaru (Hololive)
>26,234: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>25,594: Pekora (Hololive)
>21,180: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>15,619: Towa (Hololive)
>14,791: Nowa (Holostars)
>13,892: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,721: Alban (Nijisanji)
>13,105: Kobo (Hololive)
>13,056: Mio (Hololive)
>12,534: Miko (Hololive)
>11,984: GatchmanV (Indie)
>11,920: Polka (Hololive)
>11,694: Kanata (Hololive)
>11,508: Korone (Hololive)
>10,937: Luna (Hololive)
>10,927: Nose (VSPO)
>10,906: Watame (Hololive)
>10,895: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,712: Toko (Nijisanji)
>10,402: Hal (Neo Porte)

>> No.32378779

>>32378657
Kek

>> No.32378781

>>32378566
again no men plus its an excuse to post Baelz while I harbor no strong feelings good or bad for her as a streamer my cock harbors powerful ones for her model

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>>32378716
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream
3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live

>PER COMPANY
3x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
2x: Ayame
1x: Pekora

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
153x: Hololive
83x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
30x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome
14x: Miko
9x: Nijisanji, Subaru
6x: Hal, Hololive, Marine
5x: Kanata, Mio, Toya
4x: Flare, Gura, Noel, Okayu, Suisei, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Fuwa, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Botan, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>> No.32378801

>>32378687
Am I really in the wrong for thinking that Noel and Ayame sound almost exactly alike?

>> No.32378831

it's nice to see Ayame art in these threads. it doesn't happen very often, and there aren't many Holos with a red color scheme.

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Did you like my anniversary #?
Remember that all koreans are subhuman scum that should hve never been accepted in hololive and that HoloKR will never happen now that im back

>> No.32378851

I want a Kobo and Laplus Valorant collab

>> No.32378853

>>32378657
Hey theory anon here. The theory is proven if Kobo is reclining. If she is stagnating or inclining then the theory is false and we accept the null hypothesis. What it means is that if Kobo is not reclining then the theory is wrong. I personally won't go back on this.

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>>32378716
Nice new personal record as well.

>> No.32378871

>>32378657
kys crossposter
>>32378679
kys crossposter
>>32378710
kys crossposter
>>32378781
kys crossposter

>> No.32378881

>only 1300 waiting for Vesper's 1st MC stream
grim

>> No.32378907

>>32378871
love you too anon

>> No.32378918

>>32378716
5-17 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead

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>>32378868

>> No.32378929

>>32378871
kys kys crossposter poster

>> No.32378931

>>32378710
Note schizo kept niji's record.

>> No.32378949

>>32378845
Based
I kneel ojou

>> No.32378968

>>32378881
better than the shark. her waiting room is sub-750 right now.

>> No.32378972

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI-Ck3Tgmi4
>paywalled karaoke VOD
Towa a VSPO now?

>> No.32378977

>>32378929
>>32378871
have a good day both of you. also, Numbers?

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>>32378928

>> No.32378991

Anyone has the picture with Ayame and Japanese Imperial Flag?

>> No.32379007

>>32378716
>highest non-holo in the tally is from VSPO instead of Nijisanji
Lol

>> No.32379016

>>32378845
Based, it was absolute kino

>> No.32379017
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>>32378853
I'll propose an addition to the experiment
>The theory is proven if Kobo is reclining while doing the same type of content she does currently
If Kobo picks Valhalla, Cull of the Lamb or goes the way Ame did and starts doing a watchalong and a superchat reading per week while only doing pretty much four streams a week the experiment is not valid

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>>32378868
Mose holos got new records this year right?
Apart from Aqua.

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Sana gold

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>>32378990

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>>32378865

>> No.32379101

>Susan decided to unsub me from ars, ange, azki and watame
Better check your youtube subs since susan seems to be on the warpath again

>> No.32379109

>>32379017
It will be taking in account the average ccv. I don't see any way she would decide to do debuff for all her streams in the next 3 months.

>> No.32379118

>>32379046
that's the tranny shark, retard

>> No.32379121

>>32379046
If Nasa can't beat Holosummer graduate them

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>>32379059

>> No.32379162

>>32378853
>The theory is proven if Kobo is reclining
only if every single other factor remains the same, like her content style, stream frequency, lack of drama etc.

>> No.32379178

>>32379046
>she

>> No.32379187

>>32379101
Any reason why Youtube randomly unsubbing content creators for you from time to time?

>> No.32379218

>>32379101
Here is an easy way to check, at least for Holo girls
>Koyori channel page
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6eWCld0KwmyHFbAqK3V-Rw/channels

Has all of the girls, grouped by gen and sorted by gen too

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>>32379132

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>>32378845

>> No.32379278

>>32379218
I kneel effort coyote

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>>32379046
>Sana
>Implying
Usui Gold
Get In here rocket bros we finally won

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>>32378679
people still think Kizuna Ai has been replaced to this day
Just think about that for a moment

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>>32379224

>> No.32379302

>>32379109
>I don't see any way she would decide to do debuff for all her streams
It doesn't take "all" for her to recline, true average is affected by the length of the stream meaning even a single 7 hours long JRPG stream per week can have a bigger weight than three 2 hours long regular streams

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tf is this?

>> No.32379321

>>32379162
Again, stop with these preemptive copes. We are not even sure that she will collab with the homos regularly from now on.

>> No.32379324

>>32379101
are you a bot? did you pass the captcha test?

>> No.32379347

>>32379187
No fucking clue, I was active in chat for all 4 channels

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>>32379298

>> No.32379362

>>32379312
vrabi missed the points in the middle and just connected the ends

>> No.32379374

>>32378369
>>32378600
NTA, but to do this you will have to isolate other factors that may affect CCV.
Such as but not limited to:
>Stream type (Gaming (If gaming what game?)? Zatsu? Event?)
>Length of stream?
>Stream starting time?
>The individual vtubers & collab partners to be tested.
>Date of stream
>Natural incline rate of industry
Then we also have to consider the possible correlation between the above variables... (E.g. Astel*FPS collab will have different impact on CCV than say Astel*Tetris collab)
Which makes it difficult to see whether male debuff theory is true or not since we are unable to see whether a change in CCV is truly due to the male vtuber or if its due to other factors.

>> No.32379380

>>32379218
>koyowhore channel
eww

>> No.32379382

Divegrass anon here!
We aren't playing, but you mkight find it fun.

>>32372330

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>>32378831
bro...

>> No.32379397 [DELETED] 

new fag to holo, who does holo profit from the most? The mutts, the zhangs or the nips?

>> No.32379408

>>32379382
numbers?

>> No.32379415

>>32379218
based koyori

>> No.32379422

>>32379312
vrabi shat itself for a while. happens every so often. this is why we use multiple tracking sites.

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This blue girl needs to get corrected, and I'm willing to be the person to do it

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>>32379360

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>>32379397
nips and mutts

>> No.32379464

>>32379046
Magged
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LOnjLuBBkhU

>> No.32379488

>>32379382
kys crossposter

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>>32379429

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>>32379429

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>>32378716
>SEPTEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Pekora (Hololive) - 54,023 - Rust
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 47,845 - Return stream
3) Ayame (Hololive) - 118,899 - 4th anniversary 3D live

>PER COMPANY
2x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
2x: Ayame
1x: Pekora

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
154x: Hololive
82x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
31x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Salome
14x: Miko
9x: Nijisanji, Subaru
6x: Hal, Hololive, Marine
5x: Kanata, Mio, Toya
4x: Flare, Gura, Noel, Okayu, Suisei, Towa
3x: Ayame, Chloe, Choco, Mayuzumi, Polka
2x: Ange, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Maimoto, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Shion
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Botan, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Lain, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>> No.32379536

There's a koyoschizo now? He's a chumbuddy right?

>> No.32379543

>>32379374
Thanks for the tips anon. It is funny that everyone was focusing on the recline part of the theory and seldom focus on the incline part.

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>>32379495

>> No.32379572
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For those who missed

* TRUE AVERAGE OF CCV, PER BRANCH *
Cutting point to be in this table is
>streams this month >= Number of streamers times 10
>more than one streamer (sorry VShojoJP)

Here are some comments
1) HoloJP continues living in some different timeline where the rules don't apply to them.
Keeping a 11k average is already hard enough for a streamer (only 20 of them across the industry this month), but that branches keeps that average for the combined branch(!)
2) HoloEN is not as strong as in previous months (with graduation and off collab buffs) but is still very strong in comparison with their peers
3) NijiJP likely had their best month in their history.
For a metric as influenced by special events and NijiJP having nothing but personal record breaking special events this month, they likely reached the peak of their true average for their history so far.
4) Now here the knife fight starts: HoloID, I think for the first time, takes #4, outranking VSPO and NijiEN
5) VSPO likewise, giving a massive show of strength and outranking NijiEN with a similar number of streamers (17 vs. 26)
6) NijiEN and StarsEN were separated this month by only 16 in their median.
I don't think StarsEN can keep this debut buffed average for much longer, but it was a show of force by that branch
7) Neo Porte contnues being carried by their top 2 talent (Hal and Reid) and couldn't follow the footsteps of their fellow FPS box VSPO branch
8) 774 completes the top 10, with both VApArt and Honeystrap being well positioned (thanks to Met and Patra)
9) Brave Group seems to have shaken off the "stench" of Gamebu and is giving a good perfrmance for their Riot and Aogiri branches

and the punchline
10) SONY branches are suffering, but at least this time VERSEn managed to abandon the last position, leaving VSen to hold that dubious honor thanks to some incline

>> No.32379574

>>32379536
He's been here since forever.

>> No.32379577

>>32379218
Thanks anon also
>somehow got unsubed to korone too
Fucking susan and her pajeet code

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>>32379510

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>>32379312
this is why we use vstats, the superior numberfagging platform

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>>32379624

>> No.32379691

>>32379536
he's a /jp/ immgrant, like most of the holoschizos in this thread

>> No.32379697

>>32379312
Wtf. But I think she did not hit 5k during that time.

>> No.32379698

>>32379543
It's just 2 sides of the same coin anyway.

>> No.32379709

>>32379017
nta my bet is she's going to stagnate (or just stay at her current number with little fluctuation)
because i think no matter what stream she does, she will always be in 8-10k ccv area.
there were also streams like prosekai, duolingo, that one asmr stream where she pulled shit number but bounce back after that.
i really think this collab is unfortunate just because of timing.

>> No.32379713

>>32379543
Isn't your theory that mixed-gender collabs result in a recline? Wouldn't people naturally argue against that?

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>>32379649

>> No.32379743

>>32379536
its either the /jp/ immigrant or the schizo skinwalker

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>>32379572
And here is the table for
* median of peak CCV, per generation / wave, August 2022 *
It only features Holos and NIjiJP + NijiEN because the generations of other branches is still not finalized (with former NijiID, for instance, having some 10 or so)

Some comments
1) Every HoloJP gen is over 10k except JP1
2) The Top 10 is HoloJP minus JP1, Yaoukoku (Fuwa, Gwelu and Tomoe), Sanbaka (Ange, Lize and Toko) and Council (!)
3) Luxiem outranking Myth is not really a surprise with Gura and Ina being mostly out of commission but JP1 outranking Myth comes as a surprise.
Fubuki, Choco and Matsuri had a very good RUST couple of seasons and Haachama is finding her groove back.
4) Now Tempus outranking Edengumi, Ranunculus, Voltaction and every NijiEN wave but Luxiem comes as an absolute surprise
5) Stars2 (Roberu, Astel and Temma) being over 1k is also a surprise.

Not many surprises there tho, except some of the ones mentioned above

>> No.32379761

>>32379698
Not really. They might incline together, or recline together, or male will recline and female will incline.

>> No.32379771

>>32378972
She's literally the wife of a VSPO member anon.

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>>32379692

>> No.32379783

>now used to get 7k with zatsu
>now won't even get 5k with minecraft the biggest buff game in hololive

>> No.32379866

>>32379713
*result in recline of the girl while incline of the boy
Last thread everyone was talking about Kobo's number but not Regis' number. Seems like people just don't care about Tempus anyway. Not even homobeggars. Homobeggars just want to destroy hololive.

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>>32379782

>> No.32379893

>>32379783
recline due to female collabs

>> No.32379915

>>32379748
Myth being that low is more on Mori and Kiara playing those super debuff games honestly.

>> No.32379919

>>32378845
>Oujo-sama comes back once a month to check if YAGOO dares to make HoloKR behind her back
Based if true

>> No.32379922

>>32379713
>mixed-gender collabs result in a recline
Recline of female, incline of the male vtuber.

>> No.32379969

>>32379519
>>PER COMPANY
>2x: Hololive
>>PER STREAMER
>2x: Ayame
>1x: Pekora
Something doesn't add up

>> No.32380004

Request:
>fake Ayame tweet reply to Ina
>Ayame with Japanese flag

>> No.32380014

>>32379783
>>32379893
>numbers decline after collab with a female
Femunicorns I kneel

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>>32379919
>Kiara tries to branch out in Korea
>This forces ojou to come out from her break and show yagoo that cover can survive without gooks

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>>32379312
It's now fixed.

>> No.32380057

>>32379783
kronii can save him

>> No.32380069

>>32379783
actually very confused by Vesper's MC number so far. Looking like a 4300 stream.

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>>32379783
Keep talking nijisister. I had to zoom out on my monitor by 50% to collect all sub 2k streams from NijiEN yesterday

>> No.32380101

>>32379748
Council should be 7897, not 9871.

>> No.32380113

>>32379969
halschizo can't count please understand

>> No.32380134

>>32379783
huh so the beggar and unity theory seems to have some leg huh

>> No.32380147

>>32380082
holy shit they really became sub 2k shitters

>> No.32380156

>Kobo barely 4k with males
kek
>>32380082
JESUS
how did iLuna flop so goddamn hard

>> No.32380179

>>32380082
How can we save Ren, Kyo, Aster, Maria, Reimu, Scarle, Aia, Finana?

>> No.32380191
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>> No.32380194

>>32379915
>VA-11 Hall-A
>Live A Live
>Tunic
>Cult of the Lamb
God, what a horrific month. At least they both played Rust a decent amount.

>> No.32380201

>>32379761
I am saying it is because ultimately what you are looking for is just the change in CCV for vtubers (male or female). You will still have to go through all the previous steps to isolate out other variables that affects CCV, and then compare all the pairs together to see if the theory holds.

>> No.32380209

>>32380082
>sub 2k stream with a 39daph
fucking how?

>> No.32380240

>>32379218
Is it weird that this has somehow given me a boner?

>> No.32380256

>>32379969
Someone doesn't know how to add alright
Also, obligatory
>/#/ thread
>Can't into numbers

>> No.32380261

>>32380179
I'll take the girls and the cute ladyboi, the other two can fuck off

>> No.32380276

>>32379783
Wait how? isnt Minecraft a buff game for holo's

>> No.32380284

>>32380240
your mind went directly to a Susan correction scenario with Koyori's Koyocock

>> No.32380307

>>32379100
stop encouraging it

>> No.32380326
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32380326

>>32378795
>83x: Nijisanji
Kon kon kitsune Fuwa-kun!

>> No.32380335

>>32380261
>wanting Aia

>> No.32380349

>>32380256
If we can just have a /#/ spreadsheet that would be nice. Even /micomet/ has one

>> No.32380381

>>32380209
Gotta imagine most who cared were watching her since she was pulling like 5-6k for her pov on twitch. Also it just seems like the "niji fans" hate Iluna
I get the feeling a lot of the Tempus hype and praise got to fans and their opinions of wave 6 went to shit

>> No.32380393

>>32380335
Put her in a wall with her ass sticking out and it'll be fine

>> No.32380406

>>32379783
I dropped him myself because the homofanbase is absolute garbage. Yes that’s the same reason I don’t watch Niji or Phase.
Hololive>Indies>>>>Niji=Phase=Tempiss

>> No.32380408

>>32380326
I'm unironically glad the annual tally gives us an extra 4 months of kon kon kitsune posting

>> No.32380411

>>32380014
I wonder if its the femunicorns or if its the beggar and unityfags fucking off after they thought that their work is done?

>> No.32380426

>>32380194
>All of them of good games
>They're all classify as debuff games
I hate it.

>> No.32380433

Does Ayame have the highest gold/stream ratio of all individual Vtuber channels this year?

>> No.32380448

>>32380038
Can anyone tell me why Ayame and Korean hatred comes from???

>> No.32380491

Day of the week meta absolutely puzzling the tourists, or the regulars are just larping along

>> No.32380493

>>32380426
Entertaining to play != entertaining to watch, retard.

>> No.32380498

>>32380448
Ayame has a imperial japanese blood and imperialists are still mad that they lost korea and dodko islands

>> No.32380521

>>32380448
from where*

>> No.32380542

>>32380448
Sure newfagESLchama, its a rrat about Ayame hating Korean because Ina once drew a picture of Ayame and tweeted at her for Ayame's birthday, but Ayame ignored it.

>> No.32380565

>>32380426
Red Alert 2 and Medieval 2 are good games but would bring shit numbers for streams

>> No.32380566
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32380566

Today is the return of EN GOLD!

>9/3 Daily Tally
14,791: Noir (Hololive)
13,697: Alban (Handcamsanji)
8,483: IRyS (Hololive)
7,992: Axel (Hololive)
7,052: Kiara (Hololive)
6,775: Magni (Hololive)
5,216: Luca (Handcamsanji)
5,096: Rosemi (Handcamsanji)

>EN GOLD SO FAR FOR SEPTEMBER
1. Gura (Hololive) - 15,128 (RUST)
2. Yugo (Handcamsanji) - 21,274 (English Telephone Game)
3. Noir (Hololive) - 14,791 (Boomer vs. Zoomer game w/Baelz)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 2
Nochairsanji - 1
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
1x: Gura, Yugo, Noir

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
Gura: 5
Yugo: 5
Noir: 5
Fauna: 3
Mysta: 3
Alban: 3
IRyS: 1
Amelia: 1
Vox: 1

I still plan on posting the total results from August. I doubt anybody cares anymore but I still want to do it for the records. That will be coming up in the next day or so.

>> No.32380573

>>32380411
Do the Stars even have femunicorns? All i know is that they do have paypigs because of idol buff but I don't know about dedicated gachis

>> No.32380579

>>32380201
The theory is simple though. It is just
1. mix gender collab happen regularly
2. male incline while female decline afterwards
As long as 1* and 2* both happen then the theory is proved to be correct. We should find the reason behind the theory being proven if and only if this theory is correct. There is no point to find the reason if the theory is wrong anyway.

>> No.32380584
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>> No.32380585

>>32379036
Aqua did get a new record with Vsaikyo finals

>> No.32380616

>>32380433
No, she's 4th for 2022
>>32377358

>> No.32380626

>>32380566
kys

>> No.32380639

>>32380566
NijiEN only ever won a month right?

>> No.32380678

>>32380276
Yes. Kaela has a 3k stream right now but minecraft pushes her to 10k. Even blue homo got over 4k

>> No.32380679

>>32380566
Back and lamer than ever

>> No.32380681

>>32380209
Watch Magni get 15k with his

>> No.32380684

>>32380573
Some of them do, despite everyone bringing up Astel shitting on gachis

>> No.32380700

>>32380616
Nijisanji's channel isn't for an individual vtuber and Salami's botted, but I forgot about Aqua not streaming as much and still pulling great numbers. Thanks for the info

>> No.32380709

>>32380498
They lost Taiwan and Manchuria too. Reminder that they acquired those territories long before WW2, some even already under Japanese control before WW1. Korea was annex and considered part of Japan instead of just another colony, and they were almost going to annex Taiwan before WW2 broke out.

>> No.32380723

>>32380566
>14,791: Noir (Hololive)
>13,697: Alban (Handcamsanji)
Sister status?

>> No.32380730

>>32380566
>Handcamsanji
Kek
I also want to call them Buffspamsanji and PaulLisanji.

>> No.32380739

>>32380194
>VA-11 Hall-A
>Live A Live
Fucking disaster game for Mori. 3k streams all around with long fucking hours too.

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>> No.32380755
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>>32380566
I'm glad Nowa is getting some amount of success.

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>>32380584
I want to have sex with Mio and her favourite daughter.

>> No.32380769

>>32380639
NijiEN won the month of May

>>/vt/thread/S25274410#p25275488

>> No.32380773

>>32380566
Wait so EN gold is really about EN only huh? I thought all gaijin are included?

>> No.32380785

>>32380433
Top three is
>0.4: Aqua (17/42)
>0.23: Salome (17/73)
>0.18: Ayame (3/17)

>> No.32380793

>>32380723
unironically winning since holo en is turning into niji en

>> No.32380796

>>32380566
nice!

>> No.32380799

>>32380723
Watching Tempiss themselves. Why do you think Homos fanbases acts like nijifags and never show up to normal streams

>> No.32380807

>>32380773
Gaijin tally is different

>> No.32380830

>>32380542
she didn't tweet at her she just posted it on twitter with a hashtag

>> No.32380846

>>32379709
that's been the trend if Chart-anon is anything to go by, so that's probably the safest possible bet.

>> No.32380849

>>32380566
If you returned yesterday, how will you call Yugo's EN gold?

>> No.32380856

>>32380566
>Stars winning
JP will never allow this to happen

>> No.32380881

>>32380807
I prefer gaijin tally over EN tally. Only 36 vtubers competing in a tally is super lame.

>> No.32380884

>>32380579
>male incline while female decline afterwards
what if its the opposite though?

>> No.32380892
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32380892

Some VERSEn numbers:
- The two least subscribed to members, Maru and Itsuki, have 4450 and 5660 subscribers respectively. This combines to just above 10k, which is 2500 less than the most subscribed to VERSEn Alba Sera.
- Incidentally, if we discount their debut teasers and debut streams, neither has a VOD with over 10k views. Unlike Itsuki, Maru does not have a non-debut related VOD that surpasses her sub count (3623 vs 4450)

>> No.32380909

>>32380082
Niji fucked up sending Iluna against Tempus. They became a filter to the sisters and basically freely advertised that the Tempus boys are even more entertaining. If you watch Tempus and Iluna, the former only talks about Iluna if they appear in their chat. The latter talks about Tempus and praises how they're so fun to watch and laugh with chat talking about them. The twitter interactions doesn't help either.

>> No.32380919

>>32378801
I can hear it

>> No.32380947

>>32380884
>what if its the opposite though?
Then the theory is false? What else do you think it would be?

>> No.32380955

>>32380448
Forced meme from some butthurt Takos because she didn't respond to a drawing Ina made
In reality she likes watching korean TV shows and has even talked about korean fans on streams several times

>> No.32380957
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https://youtu.be/HI0LBzY37h4?t=3267
> *reading a letter to her fans*
> "...after that, due to various reasons, I was almost forced to graduate."
> Oh btw, this wasn't from management. "If you aren't streaming, please graduate" it wasn't anything like that.
> Purely due to my own circumstances, it almost became the case that might have had to graduate.
> I'm glad that instead of quitting at the time, I just took a break instead.
Chimabros...

>> No.32380983

>>32380793
Honestly thats based since we might see some schizo chumbud harm one of the boys if they ever collab

>> No.32380984
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>>32380773
Nah, I only do EN since that is mainly what I watch and I truly believe that EN and JP numbers aren't perfectly comparable due to circumstances and I wanted to celebrate EN numbers too. Not to say I don't watch JP, hell, I've been membered to Miko for over 2 years. I just mainly watch EN.

>> No.32381009

>>32380793
The amount of male/female collabs is increasing but they're still planned and are not forcing those who want to stay separate (like Gura) to join them. The moment that happens and solo streams regularly turn into 4+ person mixed gender open VC collabs is when you can finally say HoloEN turned into NijiEN.

>> No.32381040

>>32380261
Just get Nigger Boy Kyo, the faggots aren't worth saving

>> No.32381042

>>32380957
She got raped, but was paid to shut up.

>> No.32381054

I wonder if this has been posted yet but pewdiepie went to karaoke with theanimeman, I forgot his real name and they tried to sing Calli's song for a few seconds then skipped it
https://youtu.be/p1HbuJ9HYOY

>> No.32381062
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>>32380909
You just reminded me of this screenshot

>> No.32381065

>>32380723
SEETHING AND COPING

>> No.32381080

>>32380849
EN branch, EN streamer, EN gold

>> No.32381089
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32381089

>>32380892
WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT .... did their combined subs beat Ankimo yet?

>> No.32381097

>>32380957
GRADUATION AMONGUS

>> No.32381101

>>32379397
mainly nips, mutts have a good chunk, but are somewhat minor compared to the nips profit wise except for Gura. Any Zhang profit is from Taiwan, and mayyyybe Hong Kong, while other Zhangs are a nuisance/

>> No.32381108
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32381108

>>32380448
Old rrat from her not seeing Ina's fanart (because she didn't tag her, just tweeted with her hashtag).
She actually loves Korean shit.

>> No.32381120

>>32380957
black company

>> No.32381125

>>32380909
It's honestly only gonna get worse. If EN3 is literally around the corner for October and they debut while Niji is gone for Nijifes, that'll be a fucking disaster for the Niji branch. Holy shit imagine being practically unable to respond to a full blown debut everyone is on their toes for waiting to happen

>> No.32381134

>>32380957
black company...

>> No.32381154

>>32380579
>As long as 1* and 2* both happen then the theory is proved to be correct.
Well let me give you an example where 1* and 2* can happen but still the theory could be wrong.
Say the following:
>Female vtuber streams HoloCure for 2 weeks during FOTM and had a birthday 3D live during the period
>Male vtuber streams Zatsu for 2 weeks.
>They started to collab for a stream (1* fulfilled)
>Female vtubers starts streaming VA-11 Hall-A for 2 weeks.
>Male vtuber starts to stream Rust for 2 weeks in streamer server.
>Female recline, male incline (2* fulfilled)
>1* and 2* fulfilled
But this doesn't mean the theory is proven correct, since the CCV was affected by the stream type way too hard, hence the need to isolate other factors that affect CCV.

>> No.32381168

>>32381054
>sing Calli's song for a few seconds then skipped it
Kek the song was so shit that they decided to not sing the whole thing

>> No.32381177

>>32381089
Yes, I actually posted about it.

>> No.32381183

>>32380957
Chima shilling is almost as annoying as Pomu shilling.

>> No.32381184
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32381184

>>32380769
> NijiEN won one monthly gold
> NijiJP has yet to win one main monthly gold since the start of the tally

>> No.32381193

>>32380082
>Kobo 4k
AIIIIEEEEE
Windah, save her!!!
Manca, save her!!!

>> No.32381195

>>32381062
I love this picture
>Alban looking absolutely distraught
>Shark pillow in the background (Gura)
>Chat talking about nothing but Tempus
Might even be a work of art.

>> No.32381199

>>32380684
Huh, that's interesting. So, Tempus did attract gachis but they don't seem to be as volatile because the boys don't really pander or bait

>> No.32381204

did all the smart number people leave after last thread, why are we back on this dumb male debuff theory?

>> No.32381242

>>32381054
>skipped it
Edited out or the song queue?

>> No.32381253

>>32381199
Axel have one in particular from his PL

>> No.32381263

>>32381184
The funny thing is that despite that win NijiJP has arguably been more competitive. The last couple months have all been close and have even included 2 ties. On the EN side NijiEN does have that one actual win (which is big, not discounting that) but every other month has been a blow out in HoloEN's favor.

>> No.32381264

>>32379783
he's not doing really doing any zatsudan while building, kinda just dead air.

>> No.32381272

>>32380573
Isn't Regis gachi, a male homo? David or something

>> No.32381284

>>32381204
I don't understand why people are engaging with that stupid thing.

>> No.32381290

>>32381199
ShigureUIviewersreflectstreamer.jpeg

For the most part if you are chill and don't let bad behaviour grow in your community, most of your fans will act fine. If you encourage it - for instance by engaging in very 'colourful' content - then the community will also reflect it.

>> No.32381294
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32381294

OH NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHA
> IT BEGINS!

>> No.32381299

>>32381184
>He thought that the NijiEN was carrying the whole Nijisanji company was a meme

>> No.32381312

>>32380579
>>32381154(me)
>There is no point to find the reason if the theory is wrong anyway.
Forgot to respond to this part as well.
Lets say you fulfilled 1* and then the opposite of 2* happens, that doesn't necessarily mean the theory is wrong, since once again, the CCV could get affected by other factors as well.

>> No.32381319

>>32380984
I see. Thanks for your effort I guess. Not sure where the gaijin tally anon went. I would like to see whether that ungrateful bitch Linglan Lily fare in her debut and whether she can make it to the tally.

>> No.32381322

>>32381199
I'll let you in on something anon:
Nowa made $2k yesterday in SCs across 2 streams. The kicker? He got $1200 from the Bae collab. Yes, $1200 from a COLLAB
That should tell you that these people don't give a fuck about them collabing with girls or not. They love the boys and what they do

>> No.32381325

>>32381195
>Millie being a shameless slut on top of all of that
Yeah, it's the perfect picture

>> No.32381329

>>32381062
I tried listening to his voice earlier, why does he sound like getting choked?

>> No.32381330

Do NijiEN unironically want to Collab with HoloEN but couldn't due to their management? I mean, both first and second gens had goals wanting to spread Nijisanji name all over the world, but all they want was to Collab with their idols...

>> No.32381360

>>32381294
Isn't this her worst hour to stream?

>> No.32381381

>>32381204
>sub 5k minecraft stream which is supposed to be a buff
>n-no the boys getting smaller numbers after a female collab isnt real

>> No.32381387

>>32381062
The greens talking about Tempus lmao did they not enforce the "not talking about other vtuber" thing or he mentioned them first?

>> No.32381425

>>32381330
Some do, others I imagine don't particularly care. About 1/4th of them didn't even really watch vtubers before they joined.

>> No.32381433

>peaked at 4300
NOOOOO MY HECKING NOWA CRIPPLE TALLY 5K AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.32381434
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nijibros...

>> No.32381439
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32381439

>A-AYAME DOESN'T STREAM LONG HOU-
HATERS AND LOSERS BTFO!
>pic related

But really, this chick is Ayame with Rushia's face.

>> No.32381453

>>32381154
>>32381312
I would look at the data at least until end of this year if Regis and Kobo still collab regularly with female/male. That would certainly weed out all irregularities.

>> No.32381454
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32381454

>>32380984
You may be membered to Miko for over 2 years but Miko has been on my member for over 2 years.

>> No.32381455

>>32381204
He is respectful enough. And it seems that we have no Molyas and Indogs shitting here so his presence is fine.

>> No.32381460

>>32381381
Do not check Neo-Porte MC stream right now

>> No.32381472

>>32381330
Is actually pretty simple to understand why they don't collab and I know this is bait but just for measure: NijiEN's fans are chinese.

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>>32381434
CANT BEAT THE COCK

>> No.32381506

>>32381460
>neo porte is hololive now

>> No.32381521

>>32381204
>>32381284
Tbh I am not interested in the theory itself, but rather how one would approach such a question to obtain reasonable conclusions.

>> No.32381526

>>32381434
Lmao get rekt Nijinig

>> No.32381537

>>32381387
Ofc not. They do vc everytime and that'll be hypocritical of them to rag on their fans if they themselves don't follow it.

>> No.32381549

>>32381434
So whens the next match for #? They tied with vsj right?

>> No.32381550

>>32381381
>buff game
It's literally only a buff to HoloLIVE. Not Holostars. Not even fucking Niji gets buffed by Minecraft.

>> No.32381560

>>32381381
As ive said this isnt a surprise since the untiyfags and beggars are leaving slowly, the question now is that how big of an audience are they in the boys stream

>> No.32381561

>>32381454
Sakura Miko is NOT sexy.

>> No.32381577

>>32381454
Sakura Miko is NOT sexy

>> No.32381583

>>32381506
>Holostars is Hololive now
See, same thing

>> No.32381585

>>32380769
They actually took one? Cool, let's see what they streamed
>JP primetime karaoke
>Birthday
>JP primetime horror game
>JP primetime karaoke
>JP primetime collab
>JP primetime collab
>JP primetime collab
>Karaoke relay
>JP primetime collab
>JP primetime unarchived karaoke
>JP primetime handcam collab (...)
>Vox ASMR
>JP primetime game
>JP primetime game
>JP primetime collab
>Vox ASMR
>Responding to drama
Sasuga EN (North America (China)) tally

>> No.32381617

>>32381284
Homobeggars and anti-homobeggars wants to get rid of each other.

>> No.32381618

>>32381054
no timestamp, couldnt find it, only karaoke i saw was a different song.

>> No.32381624

>>32381561
>>32381577
huh

>> No.32381638

>>32381583
>Holostars is not under cover for some reason
????

>> No.32381650

Finally got to watch Ayame's 3D. God I almost forgot how good Fubuki's voice is. The trio mio/ayame/fubuki song was very good.

>> No.32381662

>>32381434
KNEEL RIGHT NOW
>>32381549
one on the 4th and one on the 10th
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vt/_League_3 groupB

>> No.32381680

>>32381381
First off, you're understanding of minecraft buffs is very basic. Minecraft can be a buff but it depends on what you're doing. Random building with not chance of collab -as Noir is doing rn - is a minor buff and this is reflected in his numbers - he easily got to 4.4k. Then, how do you explain Altare's numbers increasing post kobo collab? The fact that Magni and Noir have been getting higher numbers than last week (Yesterday's zatsu hit 4.3k , the last time this happened was last monday after which it declined to 3.6k on the next one). His stream is also at 4.4k and increasing, you have no idea what the final number will be because every Tempus stream has tended to peak at the end rather than the beginning.

>> No.32381687

>>32381439
>sub 5k views
>ayame
fuck off. get that shitter outta here

>> No.32381704

>>32381284
Im curious to see how many in the audience are unityfags who fuck off after getting their collab and if it is a sizable number of their fanbase

>> No.32381706
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>>32381638
nigger if the hololive named matter for the holostars the jp branch wouldn't be fucking 3views

>> No.32381727

>>32381330
Pomu- Kiara
Elira- She likes Holo JP
Finana- Probably, she tweets at them a lot
Petra- Been a vtuber longer than Holo EN has existed
Selen- Imagine she'd like to collab with the ones that play Apex
Rosemi-yes
Millie- Holo ID
Enna- Mori
Nina-whoever gives the most clout (Gura or whoever the 2nd biggest one that would collab with her)
Reimu- idk anything about Reimu
Scarle-Magni
Aia-not sure
Maria-not sure

>> No.32381742

>>32381360
Her audience are mostly young Indos. So yup. Unlike Uncle Nowa's EU and NA viewers.

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>>32381561
>>32381577
What the fuck?

>> No.32381766

>>32381330
> On Nov 23, Selen reveals on stream that she finally was allowed to collab with "the zombie" soon, which most people naturally assumed to be Ollie (https://youtu.be/K9Z6N3p-5XU?t=20813, https://youtu.be/qH_lYfNNw78).).
> 3 days later, on Nov 26, Selen announces that the collab was cancelled (https://youtu.be/tfIGSTTuauI?t=26323).). Summary : "In the end, it had to be cancelled. Both of us were looking forward to it. I can't say too much about it, we both tried their best to make it happen. But the decision was out of both me and my collab partner's hands."
> The VERY NEXT DAY (Nov 27), Overidea + Bilibili announce a VTuber singing festival that includes Lazulight as guests (https://old.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/r3koxh/half_of_2434_international_will_be_attending_sing/, https://twitter.com/OverideaHQ/status/1464532414512828421).).
Take a wild guess

>> No.32381769

>>32381706
holostars would literally be 2-1views without the hololive brand
same with starsen

>> No.32381798

>>32381263
Most of EN "wins" are usually because no one is streaming.
NijiJP doesn't have this problem.

>> No.32381813
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32381813

>>32381434
you jinxed it

>> No.32381817

>>32381263
>and have even included 2 ties
Has it though?

>> No.32381840

>>32381638
By your idiotic logic Gamma should get at least 10k ccv for WWE since it's a buff game for Miko and Gura, or Uyu should at least get 1k for P4Golden since it's a buff game for Subaru.
Buff game for Hololive girls != Buff game for Holostars. Actually the only buff game for Holostars since forever is Apex

>> No.32381842

>>32381650
I don't know how they can make good songs like AyaFubuMi's and Orio's but fucked up Umisea's songs really hard.

>> No.32381869

This is my observation of Tempus' potential:
Nowa - Like Ina, consistently high floor but medium Ceiling, most inoffensive
Magni - Like Ame, medium floor but the ceiling will depend on the creative ideas
Altare - Medium floor but highest ceiling potential due to collab ability and Korean market
Axel - Low floor low ceiling but Music will push his growth

>> No.32381889

>>32381680
This is actually what the Male Debuff theory wants to explain, that collabs buff males. I won't eat that theory though.
I am not sure if the reasoning of that theory is that males suck the audience of females.

>> No.32381893

>>32381769
>1views
Come on man even VERSEn are 2views.

>> No.32381903

>>32381817
Touche but that means it's been close enough so that one disputed result is the difference between a tie and a win. It's been really close.

>> No.32381914

>>32381842
Umisea's orisong is shit to begin with.

>> No.32381945

>>32381195
Lmao. I don't watch Niji but this is so amusing

>> No.32381950

>>32381893
check the stars pl most of them were 1-2views before hololive and were doing almost the exact same thing

>> No.32381980

>>32381914
Eh, I really like the full version of Umisea. It's super fun and catchy. Just that the short version on youtube cuts out a lot of the cool parts which I think leads to people's negative opinion of it.

>> No.32381996

>>32381537
It kinda reminds me when Fungus pinned "no number talk" in a stream when he previously shitted Council for it. Oh man it's so fun teasing him.

>> No.32381998

>>32381889
no you retard the male debuff theory is just an attempt to shit on collabs. There is no hard evidence, it's all just morons with a shit understanding of how numbers work that want to create drama threads. That's why you get stupid shit like "matsuri was reclining due to male collabs" in the midst of massive matsuri incline.

>> No.32382002

>>32381869
They need China

>> No.32382015

>>32381842
Because it's not the same people composing, producing, mixing and arranging? Do you even look at the music credits?

>> No.32382040

>>32381294
i think its 1am in indo

>> No.32382068

>>32381387
It's Alban, dude talks about Hololive 24/7

>> No.32382073
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32382073

>>32381869
>korean market
kamon, yagoo. just pull the trigger already.

>> No.32382094

>>32381766
Niji JP and Niji ID are both in that stream, and they collab with Hololive all the time. What's special about EN at that point (prior to the big explosion of CN fans with Luxiem)? This is a very weak train of logic. "We're in a small segment of a bilibili stream. We have to ban all collabs forever with the English branch of the Japanese company that made China angry, even though our Japanese branch still collabs with said company.""

>> No.32382100

>>32381638
they're not hololive and they're not allowed on the holoserver which is the real buff
even holoID minecraft lost numbers back when they started playing on their new ID server instead
and single player MC Holo streams don't do that well either

>> No.32382103

>>32381889
>Male Debuff theory
If you are referring the theory that I am testing, the difference wouldn't be showing this early anyway. You need to wait for a few months.

>> No.32382107

>>32381996
wasnt it because one of his members kept reminding him of his sub count and unintentionally showed him how slow it was compared to luxiem since he thought he was on the same caliber as them

>> No.32382106
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32382106

>tfw we are in a timeline where the nijisisters are furiously defending Tempiss because Iluna flopped so hard

>> No.32382116

>>32382002
Not for survival unlike your NijiEN

>> No.32382120

>>32381727
>whoever gives the most clout
kek

>> No.32382138

>>32382068
Yeah, he is a total Holofag who just applied to Niji because Hololive wasn't really hiring male vtubers at the time. He would have 100% been all over those Tempus applications.

>> No.32382188

>>32381869
I think Altare has huge potential if girls actually start watching him.

>> No.32382198

>Ayame actually held hands with Chloe during the live
cute

>> No.32382211

>>32382107
Oh right, it was about the subs. Still, pretty funny coming from him after that leak.

>> No.32382213

>>32382138
I am glad hes in Niji. Dude would have creeped the girls out for sure.

>> No.32382262

>>32382138
The guy who called that penguin vtuber "Gura"?

>> No.32382265

>>32382073
Would any of the anon here even understand Koreans to watch them? Even the Koreans want to watch ENs.

>> No.32382272

>>32381998
Read

>> No.32382287
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32382287

The sexiest Holo

>> No.32382302

>>32381727
Reimu and Astel requested to collab like back in January but yeah.... The last time Astel mentioned it they were "waiting for an adult" lol

>> No.32382313

>>32382073
see
>>32380038

>> No.32382314

>>32382068
>>32382213
Alban and Shu seems to be alright though, but I am just a thread reader.

>> No.32382321

>>32382287
The original menhera Holo

>> No.32382319

>>32380892
It's a bit tragic how Sony couldn't manage to at least boost versen to a 4view despite their resources.

>> No.32382325

>>32382188
Its a dangerous territory coz you don't want his fans to be filled with Chinese, SEA girls which will force him to start pandering to them, that's Niji

>> No.32382327

>>32382213
If the dude is truly a holofag, he probably would've known the unwritten rules about interacting. And beside, I don't think he's willing to be in Stars. He's a holofag, not starsfag

>> No.32382334

>>32382094
again, ask EN management

>> No.32382364

>>32382287
What would sex with Matsuri be like?
I'm imagining a lot of screaming and pain, ending in forced impregnation

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32382370

>>32381561
>>32381577

>> No.32382377

>>32382319
they could have promoted them in crx
i think they have abandoned them at this point and are only in it due to the sunken cost fallacy

>> No.32382387

>>32382265
That's what they said about ENs wanting to watch JP and IDs wanting to watch JP/EN. Once they have people streaming in their language, they'll start watching them if they're good and entertaining hires. They need Koreans that can speak some EN/JP though so they can network with the other branches., or if they're KR only they need to be a really killer talent (Kobo-tier).

>> No.32382385

>>32382327
>And beside, I don't think he's willing to be in Stars. He's a holofag, not starsfag
retardbro, think about what you just posted

>> No.32382424

>>32382265
Except for Bae and Kronii I dont think any other talent has big Korean fanbase, its just the potential is so big it will be a wasted opportunity to not even try to capture it at this point

>> No.32382437

Seems like half of holoX are hired specifically to do idol stuff. They are on the stage very frequently. It is probably the reason they don't try to grow their own channel, except for Koyori and Iroha. Koyori and Iroha are the opposite in that they stream regularly.

>> No.32382442

>>32382364
Matsuri is 100% the kind of girl who wants to be choked, smacked around, and pissed on.

>> No.32382506

>>32382302
I hope someone from Niji quits and spills some details of their behind the scenes stuff.

>> No.32382526

>>32382387
I think it is better to just focus on maintaining JP market and expanding EN.

>> No.32382545

>>32382094
NTA. Probably because of Paul Li-types in the EN management.
But who knows about the motivation? But I believe NijiEN blocked it for reasons we do not know.

>> No.32382547

>>32382094
>What's special about EN at that point (prior to the big explosion of CN fans with Luxiem)
Because they had plans to shill NijiEN to china since there would be no competition there and the only way to do it is through bilibili
Luxiem hitting it of with the chinese sisters only pushed that plan further

>> No.32382574

>>32382319
What did Snoy even do to promote them anyway? All I remember was that expensive anime PV around their debut and absolutely nothing after that.

>> No.32382634

>>32382094
This seems to be an EN exclusive block, since EN also blocked not only HoloEN but HoloID as well.
Another example is some NijiEN talents unfollowing KSon after she moved to VShojo. Again, weird move following her while indie but unfollowing when joining VSJ.

rrats are that someone high up in NijiEN management is a Chinese mainlander.

>> No.32382690

>>32382094
Nobody knows for sure but NijiEN is very dependent on its Chinese viewerbase in a way that no other branch of Niji even comes close to.

Surface level knowledge leads you to believe that HoloEN are blocking the collabs since they don't collab with anybody. However, that would be being a basic surface level bitch which most people are sadly. If you dig a little deeper all the actual evidence points to NijiEN blocking the collabs.

>> No.32382753

>>32382325
If Tempus won't do it. StarsID should.

>> No.32382777

>Nowa 4700
5K IKZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

>> No.32382780

>>32382574
Check the versen official channel, it seems like there are some new PVs in the recent weeks, but I really don't understand how the fuck those are supposed to promote shit.

>> No.32382812

My take for EN3: they already finalize the candidates in July or August. The applicants all got their results already. This is why the small EN corpos are debuting their new gen in August/September. The rejected candidates all accepted the offer from these smaller corpo. With 3 months in mind I am expecting them to debut EN3 in October/November.

>> No.32382818

>>32382188
I'm a girl and I don't like him

>> No.32382834

>>32380892
>The two least subscribed to members, Maru and Itsuki
the fuck
those are the names that are shilled here all the time

>> No.32382841

>>32382574
they abandoned them the moment they didnt get gura numbers in the first month
>>32382780
>but I really don't understand how the fuck those are supposed to promote shit
sunken cost fallacy

>> No.32382853

>>32382777
He started inclining near the 1 hour mark which is pretty unusual, nothing happened on stream so I wonder what the cause is

>> No.32382868
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32382868

Speaking of SONY, here is another table
* TRUE AVERAGE OF CCV, AUGUST 2022, PER COMPANY *

Here are some things

1) COVER average is still sky high, even merging in all branches including StarsJP
2) ANYCOLOR pumps an inordinate amount of hours with all of their streams, and outrank COVER in "watched hours" (but barely)
3) Brave Group surely managed to wash away the Gamebu stench and survive through Riot and Aogiri, and now that they gobbled up VSPO they're undeniably the third largest vtuber corp in the world
4) Neo Porte is doing fine, but clearly being carried by Hal and Reid.
5) 774 Inc. is very top heavy with some talent (Patra, Met) having world class numbers and the rest, Holostars class
5) .LIVE lives! But barely, being outranked by Noripro
6) Everyone below .LIVE are fighting for the scraps that fall from the big boys table
and
7) SONY. How the fuck they can manage to be outranked by WACTOR!?

>> No.32382871

>>32382753
StarsID would be interesting to compare to Niji's ID branch. Holo in general seems to be more popular then Niji there.

>> No.32382908

>>32382818
YAAAS SISTER

Can't wait for Vox to rape me in a broom closet on his next ASMR. How about you sister?

>> No.32382915

>>32382574
VERSEn marketing was the equivalent of buying ten billboards and putting them in the middle of the woods in Montana.

>> No.32382922

>>32382853
EUfags getting home from work

>> No.32382928
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32382928

* EN BLEEDOUT TALLY DEBUT WEEK DAY 3 *

>How is "Bleedout" determined?
Take the peak CCV within the first 90 minutes of the stream and compare it with the highest CCV within 5 minutes of time when the stream's primary content ends

09-03-22 top 5

1st Axel (StarsEN): -2055 (27%)

2nd Rosemi (NijiEN): -1559 (30.5%)

3rd Luca (NijiEN): -803 (15%)

4th IRyS (HoloEN): -636 (8%)

5th Kiara (HoloEN): -311 (4%)


Best Retention:

Noir +327 +2%
Magni +0 +0 (*) Raid, stream ended within 5 min of raid (and privated)

>What goes in a day's tally:
HoloEN, NijiEN, and StarsEN streams that starts before 23:59 JST and reach a CCV peak of 5,000 or higher at some point in the stream, sorted by highest to lowest absolute bleedout.

>> No.32382941

>>32382853
>I wonder what the cause is
The clock hit the top. Every top of the hour causes some shift in viewership, be it people leaving, people arriving, other streams finishing and funneling

>> No.32382947

>>32382908
I don't like Vox either

>> No.32382949

>>32382753
They won't. The fleshtubers Kobo collabed with are exactly like her; loud mouthed, toxic. And that's exactly the type that sells here.

>> No.32382951

>>32382812
>My take for EN3: they already finalize the candidates in July or August.
My rrat is that they had them earlier like around april or may and was gonna debut them at july and starsen to october but sana graduating forced them to switch debuts

>> No.32382952

>>32382094
It might just be, HoloEN has cultivated an audience who will not like collab between those EN branches, unironically the reasons could be Discord leak, Luxiem content, NijiEN Chinese pandering etc.
Fans will not like it and I am one of them.

>> No.32382959

>>32382634
Who actually followed Kson? Is there any evidence for it?

>> No.32382965

>>32380957
JP 7

>> No.32382977

>>32382841
>sunken cost fallacy
No that doesn't explain why they are spending the cost on contents that doesn't make any sense instead of say expos and other ad campaigns that actually promote shit.

>> No.32383016

>>32382818
Do you like Kpop?

>> No.32383039

>losing to a homo
Kiara is fucking done

>> No.32383050

>>32382951
Any reason not to debut after a graduation or even before a graduation?

>> No.32383062

>>32382977
im guessing the promo vid was part of the deal at the start and was too much of a hassle to cancel

>> No.32383079

>4900
100 MORE LETSGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.32383117

>>32383050
leaves a bad taste in the mouth since it will look like the girls are just replacements for the graduating chuuba if they debut it near the graduation

>> No.32383139

>>32382949
>Fleshtubers
I'm archive diving the guy she collab with atm. He has fujos shipping him with his bro kek

>> No.32383144
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>>32382977
>that doesn't explain why they are spending the cost on contents that doesn't make any sense
Incompetent middle managers and backers with enough money not to pay attention.
SONY is a company with a market cap in the tens of trillions of yen, 10M USD for them
>shut up money

>> No.32383163

>>32383050
The tempus guys specifically said they wanted to wait until a while after Sana's graduation but Cover wanted to stick with the original planned date

>> No.32383168

IMPORTANT!!!!

https://twitter.com/hana87z/status/1566048466752897026

>> No.32383178

>>32383062
The VERSEn website credits both Sony and the company that produced the initial PV, it might be a joint ownership instead of Sony Music being the sole owner of the IP.

>> No.32383199

Chicken status?

>> No.32383209

>>32383168
baqua

>> No.32383223

>>32383168
>>>/jp/hololive

>> No.32383241

>>32383117
Make sense. But if that is the case then there would be some suspicious graduation from the indie side way earlier than now.

>> No.32383262

>>32382949
I will unironically watch loud and toxic gamer-singer/ male idols. They should sing power metal songs

>> No.32383280

>>32382959
Nina and Rosemi as far as I can tell.
Archive reps from July-August 2021 showed a couple of posts talking about it, yet to find a pic though.
Both of them no longer follow her.

>> No.32383286

>>32383168
Important, my ass. At least post Vox tweets.

>> No.32383319

>>32383241
see >>32378865

>> No.32383321

>>32383241
You are assuming that cover only gets streamers for their talents

>> No.32383378

>>32383319
Bruh exactly what I was saying. If they already decided on the roster she would graduate in May instead of now.

>> No.32383402

nowa-oji 5k

>> No.32383405

EU boy, it's now primetime. Where are you?

>> No.32383407

VESPER NOOOOO MAKE IT TO 5K BEFORE I KMS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.32383417
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retards

>> No.32383428

>>32383016
I like Kpop but I like powermetal too. Guys should sing as powerful as they can, there's no one like that in tempus.

>> No.32383441

>>32382928
Can you stop posting this shit, this metric fucking sucks for various reasons.
>Stream's primary content ends is difficult to determine as it could be subjective.
>Streams may peak and bleed for various reasons. (E.g. funnels, redirections, and other special circumstances[see summer festival haunted house arc])

>> No.32383443

>>32383241
nta but thats why i find it dumb to look at streamers that have graduated now instead of streamers and artists that have graduated in lets say march or april since there was some suspicious activity from holoen around that time

>> No.32383452

>>32383321
Even Sana streams before she was Sana. They might get some other abominations but they should at least have streaming experience.

>> No.32383470

>>32383241
A lot of people never graduate they just mothball their accounts.

>> No.32383516
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32383516

>>32382928
and I'm already getting spreadsheet scuff because of the way the bleed# formula that was gifted to me was made, Alban made it to 5th over Kiara with a -475 absolute bleed though would not place in percentile

Observations:

Axel both rewarded and punished by being last in the the Tempus block, the Zomboid stream crossed over midnight for all NA timezones and ran long.

Rosemi had a large dropoff when she ran out of EN members to play Clubhouse51 with, nevertheless she kept playing either alone or with fans until 3:55

The other bleeds were not large enough to warrant comment, while the Noir+Bae collab gained as it progressed and other Holo streams hit content peaks

>> No.32383551

>>32383470
You mean like Ren Zotto?

>> No.32383563

>>32378716
> Podium sweep by Hololive
> VSPO with the second place
Nature is healing

>> No.32383569

>>32383139
Honestly I was trying to bluff but man... I guess fujos are just unavoidable...

>> No.32383631

>>32383551
honestly the way he worded his hiatus sounded off to me

>> No.32383633

>>32382868
Brave is a fucking black company. Give me back Cocoa.

>> No.32383661
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>> No.32383727

>>32383661
>randomly inclined when no stream ended
holobots

>> No.32383753

>>32383551
I thought we were talking about Hololive but yes, I would presume that's true for him. Anyone with a big channel will likely just stop uploading content rather than formally retire/graduate/whatever. Maybe they'll say hiatus, but more likely just not say anything.

>> No.32383758

there are a lot superchatters from ID on Nowa stream since quite a while ago. fujos?

>> No.32383771

>>32383452
i mean some holo members dont have streaming experience prior to hololive

>> No.32383779

>>32381263
Yeah everyone realize that. Actually literally the only thing stopped Niji from winning the last 2 months was Pekora going all out. She strategically scheduling her stream to cuck Niji out of every gold possible

>> No.32383783

>>32383727
Axel appeared on stream shortly.

>> No.32383787

>>32382868
Sony doesn't know what they are doing, or why they are doing. I bet that the only people at Sony who even know they have a vtubing division are the people operating it.

>> No.32383815
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nijibros....

>> No.32383847

>>32383787
I can save eigo sheep, itsuki and cat fubuki.

>> No.32383850

>>32383753
Any hiatus-not-just-kidding from content creator during April/May?

>> No.32383921

Bots vs Bots

>> No.32383941

>>32383815
OH NO NO NO, I DON'T FEEL SO GOOD

>> No.32383946

Ayame streaming tomorrow? She promised to stream regularly from now on.

>> No.32383952

>>32383847
No one can save any of the VERSEn girls.

>> No.32383979

>>32383758
Yeah vesper attracts indonesian women.
They're also here #30430778

>> No.32383981

>>32383946
she's in the amogus collab

>> No.32383984

>>32383850
I haven't seen any referenced here. If they're debuting in October I wouldn't expect to see anything until mid to late September or even early October if they're debuting near Halloween (especially if they're monster-themed).

>> No.32383990

>>32383946
Nah just this week

>> No.32384015

>>32383946
>she promised
[Source: it was revealed to me in a dream]

>> No.32384023
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32384023

With vox confirming even he is culled by 25% why do we even entertain the idea of youtube numbers?

>> No.32384038

>>32383979
Forgive me for the crosspost >>30430778

>> No.32384039

nowa-oji 5k (again)

>> No.32384045

>only 1k waiting for the shark
ngmi

>> No.32384067
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32384067

>>32383815
strongest idol

>> No.32384092

nowa with a slightly less exact 5k.

>> No.32384097

>>32384015
Yeah, apparently I had the same dream with 50k other people.

>> No.32384121

>>32384023
what i missed this sauce?

>> No.32384129

>>32384023
>believing vtubers
Dont tell me you also believe that Guras plush broke every record for a vtuber merch

>> No.32384139

>>32383946
Yeah that was what she said, but let’s see her actions
At least she seem more passionate than Aqua these time around, Aqua is literally, unironically, burnt out with 0% motivation left
Classic celebrity retire life

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32384181

>>32383727
Do you mean this?

>> No.32384194

>>32383847
eigo sheep and itsuki made their choice when they rejected holox

>> No.32384203

>>32384023
Because we now know how much he get culled

>> No.32384214

>>32384181
Where did they come from and where did they go?

>> No.32384236

>>32384023
did he actually say this

>> No.32384242

>>32384023
Did he show his analytics?

>> No.32384258

>>32384203
>>32384129

>> No.32384268

>>32383946
She is in the Among Us collab Miko is arranging and people usually have their own PoV for that.

>> No.32384279

>>32384181
Yeah this is definitely bot, no fucking way a bug or natural coincidence look this smooth

>> No.32384280

>>32384194
It's a funny (if a bit sad) rrat but where did it come from?

>> No.32384298

>>32383815
KNEEL TO THE REAL OJOU, SALAMI
https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1530384642314235905

>> No.32384343

Just got done catching up. Pretty good live by Ojou with most of the entire holobox supporting her in full force. Shit like this and Miko's comeback live after an even longer hiatus is what really drives home the power of the box. Most other streamers would be dead in the water if they so much as take a month off but i guess that doesn't apply when you have multiple 1 mil and 2 mil sub coworkers to get you back on your feet once you decide to comeback. Hima and Sukoya would've probably benifitted if they did something like that instead of just coming back with little fanfare...

>> No.32384365

>>32384139
Playing Apex everyday is not good for mental health. I have no idea how Ars and Chigusa manage to stay sane after long hours streams for months.

>> No.32384415
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32384415

The biggest question is
How will Ayame's return affect her Goodby Sengen numbers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1W4c7ym49Y

>> No.32384426

>>32384236
he said in his big stream breaking down about numbers that he actually reported to him as getting a peak of 75k when his public number was only 50k

>> No.32384435

>>32384280
yagoo saying that he was afraid of potential hires being poached by bigger companies which was around the time of holox and versen scouting iirc

>> No.32384446

>>32384298
True Salami I kneel, ouch!

>> No.32384482
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32384482

>> No.32384488

>>32384280
Think they mentioned they turned down other companies to join Sony. People just went with that and turned it into them turning down Holo.

>> No.32384490

>>32384415
It has become the new duolingo for me so i guess the algorithm got hold of it.

>> No.32384505

>>32384426
>>32384129

>> No.32384546
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>>32384482
EVERYDAY
HANDCAMSTREAM
FOREVER

AND YOU WILL LIKE IT

>> No.32384552

>>32384415
Oh only 400k to go for 20 mil

>> No.32384564

>>32384280
combination of
>>32384435
>>32384488

>> No.32384575

>>32384426
Timestamp?

>> No.32384592

>>32384482
>handcam stream this low
Kek, it never ceases to amaze me just how much the sisters dislike Nina.

>> No.32384620

>>32384575
https://youtu.be/xRMIFwhveeU?t=1700
> there's a literal number that you can pay attention to
> like the score in a video game
> high score = you're being extra funny, low score = you're not very funny.
> there's a lot of min-maxing, overlaps and meta shit relating to streams to increase numbers - it's exhausting.
> can't ignore the numbers because he stresses about it too much.
> "If I'm ignoring bad things, I'm giving myself more problems" is what I think.
> Industry is cutthroat (immediately rephrases).
> "Around April, I was the top dog for a bit. We were growing faster than everyone else."
> "We're still doing well, but not quite as well as we were."
> just being there once makes you want to do it again. "It happened. Go and get it back" - hence pressure.

>> No.32384653

>>32384242
see >>32384620

>> No.32384672

Why is October/November Pekora buff months again? Do you guys have any logical explanation or this is just a theory?

>> No.32384676

>>32384023
Stop acting like culls are a flat rate across the board. Just because 1 stream with wonky graphs may have been X amount of cull does not mean every single stream is like that. Actually, I'll go even further: The fact that he, in the same breath, stressed greatly about his numbers and how he's genuinely reclined from months ago should tell you that he's lost numbers no matter what.

MKNK debuted to 60k people and showed a picture of her analytics having her above 70k and close to 80k. We KNOW cull exists but it also doesn't mean that they're still culled by X amount well down the line when majority of the fanbase has dipped.

The only arguments people legitimately have are those of EN/ID like Gura/Mori/Kobo/Zeta for example where there's clearly bullshit involved. Gura getting 400-500k views in 1 hour of processing on a VOD that peaked at 15k is not typical of anyone in existence, not even fleshtubers.

>> No.32384691

>>32384592
I saw her PL, classic bitch.

>> No.32384708

>>32384620
>> "Around April, I was the top dog for a bit. We were growing faster than everyone else."
>> "We're still doing well, but not quite as well as we wer
Wait so the reimu drama and the mom drama did affect his numbers huh

>> No.32384717
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>>32384505
here's your you now fuck off

>> No.32384724

>>32384482
Handcamsanji...
Fuck you Paul Li and Noor!
But seriously though, I hear that Paul Li is not a manager or something like that and he is just a Numberfagging Coordinator for Sponsorship.

>> No.32384740
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>>32384620
>"Around April, I was the top dog for a bit.
maybe in china

>> No.32384745

>>32384620
Yeah I watched all that yesterday, he doesn't say jack shit about cull in there.

>> No.32384777

>>32384745
>watching a niji

>> No.32384797

>>32384777
For the sake of researching numbers

>> No.32384808

>>32384620
I've seen that but when exactly does he mention that a stream peak showed 50k to the public but 75k in his analytics

>> No.32384812

>NijiEN Spamming handcams

They should've just stream as fleshtubers at this point baka.

>> No.32384816

>>32384740
He's talking about sub growth rate, so in that sense he's not incorrect. He got dethroned by Salami and fucking Shoto of all people. And then Kobo.

>> No.32384818
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>>32384620
Racing to the top isn't that hard. What is truly hard is STAYING on top. KNEEL TO GURA!

>> No.32384824

>>32384724
Paul Li might be their producer since he handles the non stream content related stuff

>> No.32384856

>>32384812
handcamsanji...

>> No.32384874

>>32384777
I watched the timestamp that person just linked about his number rant dipshit.

>> No.32384887

>>32384023
>he bought the "vox actually 76k for gold" nijinig discord psyop

>> No.32384922

>HANDCAM HANDCAM HANDCAM HANDCAM HANDCAM HANDCAM HANDCAM HANDCAM HANDCAM
Just graduate the entire NijiEN already and fucking fire Paul Li and Noor

>> No.32384935

>>32384887
This would require the stream it was competing with had literally 0 cull which is not going to be the case for literally anyone with more than 200 viewers

>> No.32384950

>>32384812
its the new meta for them and it gives them somewhat good numbers for now.
I said it before and I'll say it again, Nijien would actually dominate in twitch since most of the meta they do are twitch in nature. I believe they could easily dethrone vshojo and maybe even isegye if they focused there

>> No.32384973

Why do sisters like hands so much?

>> No.32384991

>>32384812
once a niji smells a buff stream they will milk it until it dries up, see what happened to celebration streams and break streams

>> No.32384993

>>32384887
>Implying that post wasn't a psyop itself.
Sisters and wolf warriors tactics, name a better duo

>> No.32385001
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>>32384973
ever heard of yaoi hands

>> No.32385003
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>>32384973
The new wave is infatuated with Magni

>> No.32385033

>>32384935
NijiJP streams have 0 cull, HoloJP is culled by only 5%

>> No.32385042

>>32385003
Wait what happened with the rosemi clone? Is she still doing good? Last i heard she had the most potential

>> No.32385045

>>32385001
Anon, I think the girls utilized handcam more than the males.
Enna has done like, what, 5 handcam streams so far?

>> No.32385087

>>32385033
>NijiJP streams have 0 cull, HoloJP is culled by only 5%
proof?

>> No.32385092

>>32385042
She's a barely 2k shitter. The Gura Killer curse claimed another victim.

>> No.32385126

>>32384812
I'm still confused why they didn't just migrate over to Twitch fully. Nearly everything they do is textbook Twitch and they would even be able to unlock the dreaded react meta that eludes YouTube streamers.

>> No.32385140

>>32385087
I made it up.

>> No.32385153

>>32385087
Have you seen nijiJP waiting room recovery?
Oh wait, you haven't because they have none

>> No.32385175

>>32385087
Go count their vod views and compare it to Gura's

>> No.32385200

The Botan outfit stream made remember where the fuck are the new HoloX outfits streams

>> No.32385232

>>32385175
>VOD cope
>At EU hours
Try burger hours

>> No.32385238

>>32385087
These two branches have almost zero poll discrepancies unlike holoEN/ID.

>> No.32385243
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>>32385042
I don't know bro, you tell me

>> No.32385248

>>32385175
>compare it to 4mil subs channel

>> No.32385263

>>32385126
They would honestly get better numbers in twitch since the twitch meta doesnt work in yt and vice versa

>> No.32385269
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>>32385033

>> No.32385295

>>32385200
Delayed until IRyS outfit.

>> No.32385351

>>32385126
They can't coz that means they admit defeat against Hololive and are running away with tails between their legs

>> No.32385355

>>32385269
>1 min ago
vs
>19 min ago

>> No.32385369

>>32385200
In the vault with Council's outfits until IRyS redesign is here.

>> No.32385417

>>32385126
Switching to a platform with weaker competition is not a good look.

>> No.32385422

>>32385200
Gen 5 got their new outfit approximately 1 year after their debut anon.

>> No.32385429

is Polka the strongest 5th gen?

>> No.32385442

I mean nijisanji en are doing great for themselves I mena fucking elira getting over 3k for lord of the rings watchlong which if told this thread an year ago they would laugh at you. Selen hit 500k and won gold which only few en members in fact do.

As non bias indie vtuber fan In simple terms Nijisanji en vs hololive en is like my boku no hero academia. Nijisanji is one for all each wave get stronger then the next as they pass down their power. They started off weak but during each wave they got stronger. While Hololive en is all for one all numbers flow throught gura. If gura even mention tempus their number would get an boost but she left them to rot.

>> No.32385444

>>32385126
they could dominate twitch with their twitch meta game since its as good as those creator houses

>> No.32385479

>>32385442
mucho texto

>> No.32385504

>>32385442
>Nijisanji is one for all each wave get stronger then the next as they pass down their power
So Iluna is stronger than Luxiem?

>> No.32385508

>>32385429
Rust buff did wonders on her
As expected from the leader of Cross Guild

>> No.32385528

>32385442
retard

>> No.32385540

>>32385442
>subtle homobegging
Non bias indie vtuber fan alright.

>> No.32385555

>>32385442
The LOTR thing is a big collab with Shu and other people in VC. Not sure what the gibberish in the 2nd paragraph means so I won't respond to it.

>> No.32385564

>>32385442
>homobeggars acting like nijibeggars
no difference in fanbase

>> No.32385574

>>32385429
yes
https://youtu.be/zQuFRSi5ebc?t=1620

>> No.32385580

>>32385442
No one cares about your nepotism diesenpai nijikek

>> No.32385612

>>32385555
>The LOTR thing is a big collab with Shu and other people in VC
>Only 3k
Wait what?

>> No.32385647

>>32385442
>shonenniggerdry

>> No.32385648
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32385648

New Sheep song coming.

>> No.32385656

>>32385243
The 10k karaoke is a Z btw

>> No.32385673

>>32385429
>>32385574
Polka kinda reminds me of that pink haired girl from upd8

>> No.32385675

>>32385612
Sonny, Fulgur, Rosemi, Elira, Shu

>> No.32385674
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>>32385269
holoID

>> No.32385693

Amelia doing another watchalong soon. The numbers bah gawd its a massacre and she wasnt even doing well to begin with

>> No.32385720

>>32385429
Lamy is gaining on her faster than we expected.

>> No.32385729

ETA on Aia becoming a 3view? Or is she there already?

>> No.32385748
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32385748

>>32385675

>> No.32385759

>>32385675
>Every single time

>> No.32385767

>>32385729
she been there for a while

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32385769

>>32385612
>check stream
>it's real
What the fuck? What is the biggest watchalong a Holo has ever done? I remember watching some Phase Connect watchalongs that were 4 people before.

>> No.32385774

>>32385673
Not you again timeslip anon.

>> No.32385784

>>32385729
in a month or 2 if nothing drastic happens

>> No.32385843

>>32385769
I don't think Holos have done nothing more than 2 people

>> No.32385857

>>32385769
DO you count HoloFes watchalong? Because HoloX did full gen watchalong

>> No.32385883

>>32385769
>getting mogged by Nowa ojisan playing blockgame
kek

>> No.32385892

>>32385769
5 mans collab 3k
GRIM

>> No.32385914

>>32385843
Nah, Subaru, Mio, and Korone did a watchalong of JP Dark Waters

>> No.32385921

>>32385769
Man stuff like that would get 12k-15k in twitch

>> No.32385970

>>32385769
Does Tempus watching their 30 second MV count?

>> No.32385973
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32385973

Next week Hope in the Dark will be come Nijisanji's 3rd most viewed song ever.

>> No.32385987

>Watame wants fauna to get her 3d already so that she can include her in her shorts

>> No.32386043

>>32385921
No it would not
https://twitchtracker.com/sakuramiko_hololive/streams/39585885959
>6.3k
There's a huge difference between Watch Parties and straight up showing the film.

>> No.32386045

>>32385883
i remember feeling bad for the guys who got magni and vespers models predebut now they head the branch well above orange and blue boi.

>> No.32386048

>>32385987
Wait Watame also include EN in her shorts? Based

>> No.32386052

>>32385973
Man, Luxiem designs are so fucking good.

>> No.32386058

>>32385973
No one cares about you kpop-like behaviour sister

>> No.32386106

>>32385769
Did Vox and Ike watchalong reach 9k viewers? This could be NijiEn's new meta after the handcam

>> No.32386121

>>32386043
see
>>32385263
holojp gets those numbers since they do the yt meta in twitch

>> No.32386129
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32386129

>>32381264
>dead air
well this sounds boring-
>blessed jumpscared making nowa screams
faggot

>> No.32386133

In simple terms, holo, en vs. niji en is like the tortoise vs the hare. The hare which is holo en was fast and quick on it's feet and could quickly take over the western market yet. Still, before they cross the goal, which represents the west market, it got cocky and stopped trying right before they won the west market. Yet nijisanji en is like the tortoise they were slow and steady they gradually increase fanbase day after day. People made fun of them such as Selen getting 7k for her birthday or males would kill the female livers. But they kept going day after day until the unexpected happened they caught up. Now the little tortoise people made fun up is passing the hare.

>> No.32386135

>>32386052
>Luxiem
>Good
I give you Vox, Ike, and Luca designs, but whoever designed Shu and Mysta's should be banned from ever designing chuuba again

>> No.32386162

>>32379393
yeah, that's the other one. I said "not many".

>> No.32386173

>>32386135
Mysta's design makes me seethe every time I see it. He looks like a massive fuccboi

>> No.32386174

>>32386048
Someone asked if she were to pick an EN to include in the shorts who she would pick and she said Fauna

>> No.32386197

>>32386052
Luca has a god tier design, any himbo character would succeed with it. The only better male vtuber design is probably Shien's.

>> No.32386206

>>32386135
Didn't they got the same designer? Kek

>> No.32386214

>32386133
copypasta anon is back

>> No.32386242

>>32386173
That stupid cap and stupid orange shirts are a fucking eyesore

>> No.32386250
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>>32386133

>> No.32386257

>>32386135
Mysta's design is eye catching and memorable, but Shu's is a mess.

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>>32386133
didn't read

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>>32386106
>watchalong meta
That would be one of the stupidest things they've ever done if they attempt that. You can literally see the massive dropoff that happened the moment the watchalong started.

>> No.32386298

Tempus is as cringe as Nijisanji EN

>> No.32386304

>>32385987
Cute

>> No.32386312

>>32386298
kys

>> No.32386324

>>32385769
whhy are they copying Miko?

>> No.32386328

>>32386298
not surprising since their viewerbase acts the same

>> No.32386332

Paul Li's Nijification plan for September 2022
1. Encourage or pressure livers to pump buff content and to stream long.
2. Encourage raiding even if the audience is not interested on the stream being raided.
3. Advertise that the females are inclining, while hiding the fact that the males are reclining and males are buffing the female streams.
4. Encourage Homo-Holo collabs so those who are normalized on such behavior will be more vulnerable to move to Niji streams.
5. Always compare the numbers of buffed streams to any Hololive English streams and brag about it when they mogged a random HoloEN stream.
6. Develop any kinds of advertisement methods to promote the brand in all social media platforms.
7. Act like your brand has the higher moral ground.

>> No.32386347

>>32386312
hurt your feefees tempussfag?

>> No.32386352
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32386352

Ayame antis status??

>> No.32386354

>>32386298
do not shittalk my uncle.

>> No.32386353

Mumei's new Dan Dan isn't doing quite as good as the original, but still amazing considering it was stealth dropped in the middle of the night

>> No.32386364

>>32386276
>Movie started
>Viewers started leaving
Everytime with nijEN, it's like their viewers only has time to watch the 10 minutes of the stream

>> No.32386385
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIiEgBKndW0
gather
tempus is not bfe
pic unrelated

>> No.32386403

>>32382424
is bae bigger than kiara in kr?

>> No.32386413
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>>32386298

>> No.32386419

>only 2500 of Vesper's 5k made it Magnis stream
Good, Magni is a fag

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32386433

>>32386133
>The hare which is holo

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>>32386353
Makes sense given the initial hype died and she pretty much just dropped the new version without much fanfare.
This is all she mentioned about it on twitter, no link or anything.

>> No.32386460

>>32382424
Gura could have had one after shilling blue archive but she never pandered to them. Gura has always tried to me HoloJP at heart

>> No.32386477

>>32385921
Why do you assume that ppl are gonna suddenly forget NijiEN and their cringe content, they might get numbers at first due to hype but don't expect more than Vshojo

>> No.32386480

>>32386413
funny you're posting gura because she despises Tempiss

>> No.32386495

>>32386438
what a retard honestly

>> No.32386525
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32386525

>>32386413
>Using Gura to defend the Tempiss fags

>> No.32386538

>>32386438
She probably wants it out there to give it to people but still wants to move past the shitfest and stress it caused

>> No.32386552
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32386552

Oh yeah, News Anon
>>32373322
It was Chima's 4th anniversary today, she just did a Home3D singing stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI0LBzY37h4
From this anon
>>32380957

>> No.32386559

>>32386477
>Why do you assume that ppl are gonna suddenly forget NijiEN and their cringe content
Because the stuff they are doing are the same as those in what people in twitch are doing and they will actually benefit from it since its what the twitch audience wants

>> No.32386560

>>32386480
She will collab with Regis and there's nothing you chumpedos could do

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32386585

>>32386352
Dabbed on and in shambles.

>> No.32386613

Tempus is basically a off-shot tumor from NijiEN leeching off Holopro

>> No.32386614

>>32386552
>It was Chima's 4th anniversary today,
Isnt she one of the more well know nijis? How come she didnt get a concert?

>> No.32386619
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32386619

>>32386525
Seethe moar unicuck

>> No.32386628

>>32386048
>>32386174
She did ask Mori already. I assume also Ina.

>> No.32386630

the fact that Tempus have multiple dedicated schizo will never cease to bring me joy. Iluna couldn't even get one.

>> No.32386633

>>32383551
Ren explicitly stated that he's going on a hiatus (as well as the fact that he'll be back eventually).
Gura is the best example for mothballing.

>> No.32386645

>>32386121
again
Watch Parties =/= Twitch watchalong.

>> No.32386665

The Tempusbaits are just falseflaggers.

>> No.32386682

>>32386560
>implying thats not the most ideal scenario
the moment she collabs with a homo is the moment a deranged chumbud will stalk and harm the homos which will make any future collabs hard

>> No.32386692

>>32380739
>VA-11 Hall-A
Rrat probably suggested Mori play that garbage.

>> No.32386695
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32386695

>>32386585
Thanks anon, I was contemplating making a webm of it!

>> No.32386724

>>32386403
Except in Germany, Kiara is literally nowhere bigger than anyone. Korean flocked to Kiara since she was the only one pandering to them for the HoloMyth cafe and then the convention

>> No.32386735

>>32386630
Most Tempus antis are holofans who don't like their EN branch ruined by them

>> No.32386746

>>32384023
Because it's literally one (1) sample size.
We know the cull is not equal.

>> No.32386780

>>32386682
You can just stop posturing now chumpedos, you guys are even pathetic version of saplings

>> No.32386787

>>32386614
No one got a concert, Studio was closed for like 3 months because of Coving.
Only 3Ds and sponsored stuff got approved.

The karaoke party on Rion's channel was the first thing they actually did in forever.
And that was a live improv thing, when a 3D live takes several days to shoot.
I still hope she gets one later in the month.

>> No.32386811

>>32386630
They couldn't keep single chuuba or a gen split for longer than a week, they unironically lost the mindchair battle

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