/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>NijiEN wave 7
>Because of the mediocrity of Iluna management released 8(Eight)(Hachi)(Octo)(Acht) new livers believing there just wasn't enough last time
>Viewers are still sticking with Lazulight and Obsydia
>The shallow pool has become too crowded
>Too many livers, but the same stagnating consumer base that don't want to let go of their old oshis
>Marketing tries to attract viewers from outside of Niji, no dice
>They all won't budge from their oshis
>There are no more new vtuber fans looking for a new oshi
>There isn't a competition anymore
>Wave 7 all capped at 80 views per stream (on a good day)
>NijiEN wave 8
>Because of the mediocrity of Wave 7 management released 12(Twelve)(Jyuni)(Duodecim)(Zwolf) new livers believing there just wasn't enough last time

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that Iluna doesnt even have generals lmao
By the next wave they would get passing mentions in /nijien/

[Anonymous No.]

good, maybe they can have complete coverage now. Niji added more late night/aussie time/early japan time streamers so they got what they wanted from iluna

[Anonymous No.]

>>32098360
>generals are le good
Kill yourself redditor

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>>32097988
Livers are dirt cheap to make. They can spam as much as they want

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>>32098360
I haven't even watched the new gen, and don't recognize the difference between the ones who debuted in niji and the ones who debuted in holo.

[Anonymous No.]

Seriously what appeal and innovation has Mara/Aia/Scarle brought to the table?
Why would I jump to watch new nijis when Selen is still fun and Rosemi is still LA CREATIVIDAD

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>>32100538
Has organ printing gone too far?

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>>32098360
didn't their single chuuba / gender splits die within a week? fucking grim

deserved as well, btw, would take a fucking moron to call their 1k streamer general /maririn/

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>>32100714
nijieniggers have no standards huh

[Anonymous No.]

Pretty much all the NijiEN's have doubled their viewership over the past year, with the exception of Finana and Nina.
Enna has gone completely off the charts, from one of the lowest-view streamers, to matching Luxiem. ILuna has two weaker members: Scarle and Aia. But the other members are doing just fine. In fact Kyo and Maria look very promising.

NijiEN's doing really well overall. That's why they're adding people

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>>32098360
I actually saw someone attempt to make a iluna "girlz" or some retarded shit general
died at 2 posts

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>>32101172
This?
>>32095493

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>>32100922
It's not about standards
It's about hyping up the new shiny thing when the already established thing is still going strong
Dont fix that isnt broken. If my Obsy girls are going strong there's no need to go for more

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>>32097988
New wave sucks. Please stop.
Or at least try something new please. If HoloEN can undergo Nijification, I want to see a Holofied wave.

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Honestly Ive seen this with gachas
Too many games being released
But the it's the same playerbase
Every new game wants to catch the same fish that's already hooked
Niji keeps releasing more chuubas but who exactly are they trying to attract? The total number of vtuber audience has peaked. You can't attract anymore people who hasnt popped their vtuber cherry.
Going back to the gacha analogy, you know what publishers do? They stop going for the same market.
Which is why Genshin, a gacha, attracted people who hasnt touched a single gacha in their life.
If all the fish has already been hooked, it's time to fish somewhere else
That means no more Minecraft-Apex-etc vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>Petra extreme closup on boobs and legs

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>>32101669
>they make 4 pure GFE idol livers who do a lot of solo stream and only collab with other girls.

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>>32101120
Whatever you say paul li

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>>32101819
>If all the fish has already been hooked, it's time to fish somewhere else
Isnt that Luxiem's MO?
And boy did they do it

[Anonymous No.]

In the Lazu-Obsydia days, Pomu got 1.6k. Selen was beating everyone, with 2.8k. I dreamed that one day Pomu would be as popular as Selen.

Now we're even seeing Rosemi getting 2.5k on a regular basis (more than doubled).
Pomu regularly gets over 3k, and almost 5k on minecraft streams. Never thought I'd see that in my wildest dreams.
Elira got 5.5k on a solo stream for the past 2 days in a row.
Even Reimu has doubled, starting to get near 2k viewers.

Enna's growth defies the imagination.

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>>32100714
maria streams at like 4am in the morning. Quit lying about watching them if you're just watching primetime nijiENs. Also, try harder or go back to your corpo that rewards laziness

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>>32101838
Which four?

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>>32102663
Nigger do you have reading comprehension?
I said why would I bother watch Iluna or any new niji waves when the old waves are still making good content
Also Im a /rose/nigger so fuck you!

[Anonymous No.]

If accelerating doesn't work, let's try the opposite.
Mass graduations.

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>>32098360

the obsidya, ethiria and lazulight generals are fucking dead, 80% of their discussion is still on /nijiEN/ (as it should be because they interact and collab with each other so much to the point its hard to split them apart)

generally if you like maria you will also get familiarized with yugo, if you like petra you will get familiarized with ethirya (nijiUK) and if you follow finana you will get familiarized with aster, pomu with selen, etc, hence why just sticking to /nijiEN/ is the most practical way to enjoy the branch.

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>>32105644
That would kill morale and have a chilling effect on their ability to attract talent.

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>>32097988
>vtubing is fueled by unicorns
>proceed to murder them all thinking it'll get you the mass market
>you just wind up playing yourself because vtubers are for losers
>who you just fucking murdered
Vtubers be like this right before the realize the geese they just killed were the ones laying those golden eggs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQuYmaGDQqs

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>>32109173
>vtubing is fueled by unicorns
Keks in JP indie scene

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>>32097988
You know Nijisanji JP has like 120 livers and nobody pays attention to more than 10 of them each, right? By 2025 only the oldfags will remember who came first in EN, other people will just find the ones they like the most. My favorite JPs are Elu, Nui and before she quit, Lulu, and aside from Elu I don't know a damn thing about their "waves".

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>>32097988
The amout of coping in this post is honestly impresive. Not only NijiEN's grow doubled over the past several months but also Iluna as a whole is doing much better than Lazulight and Obsidia was doing when they debuded.
You can doom post all you want but it wont change the fact that NijiEN is iclining and is not going to stop anytime soon.

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>>32097988
i like these threads because they expose nijiENtards as single-minded numberfags, just like their livers

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>>32109948
>I(stan)luna
>Performing better than Obsydia and Lazulight
Lol lmao

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>>32109173
only on JP side. i remember when i was a numberfag and checking playboard oftenly. HoloEN SC is laughable compared to JP, even rarely touch top 10 outside event. Unicorn on EN side is almost nonexistent

[Anonymous No.]

>crowded pool
The weird thing is that the iluna males don't get bad CCV, but lose to the girls (who have worse ccv) in terms of superchats.

[Anonymous No.]

I still dont get why Niji chose to release new waves than expand existing ones
Ethyria needs love too!!

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>>32114017
Kyo won't bait and Aster doesn't know who he's baiting to or how to bait them. Ren won't do solo streams.
Meanwhile maria is full moeblob, Scarle has fat tits and acts like such a retard it becomes endearing, and Aia is the new saviorfag darling.

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>>32102420
Lmaod at Nina's lack of growth and only temp spikes from leechium

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>>32098360
the only thing that pisses me off is the women constantly spamming cropped porn of the boys to the point I cannot remember the last time I saw a cute Pomu pic, all I see is Shu being molested by fat old men nonstop

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>>32102420
it`s so weird that Enna of all people exploded into popularity when she is the most antisocial cunt I`ve ever seen, and I said that with love.

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>>32118139
she's one of the few English corp vtubers that embraces that video games and zatsus aren't the only kind of content and also has no fucking filter. guys can watch her because she's crass and bitchy and girls can watch her because she's a basic upper middle class white bitch

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>>32118773
>Enna
>uhite
>upper middle class
oh anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>32100425
>only being mentioned in bait threads is le good
Go back

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>>32101120
>Finana
I thought she was a favorite, what happened?

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>>32118966
she acts white and lives in the most expensive city in the country

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>>32100425
4chan was made for autists and their fringe hobbies. Somehow it turned into a drama/bait central where if you unironically want to discuss something that you're passionate about, you are looked at as "reddit".
Kys and go back your kind ruined this site a long time ago.

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>>32120979
have some pasta

Ever since Finana started I stood by her for all her high and lows.
When people were making fun of her for the fart tweet, I gave her a chance
When she only streamed for two hours, I stood by her hoping she will improve
When she gave her romantic advice I made fun of her but I kept watching her
When she stopped interacting with her fans on twitter I still stood by her
When she went two months ignoring her chat after the privated zatsudan I stood by her
When she kept focusing more on gacha I still stood by her
When she cried during a honkai stream from backseaters I still stayed
When she admitted to using her superchat money to buy gifts to her friends I made excuses
When she overslept the minecraft EN opening I stayed there and gave her excuses
When she did the same again for the Yugioh collab I stayed
When she lied to everyone about her trip and invited Uki to an off collab I was annoyed but took her excuses
When she made Pomu’s life a living hell during the whole trip, I had hope she would have learned
When she cried about not being included in fan art I criticized her but again I stayed
When she broke several rules for joining a fan discord and using their voice chat, I warned them, but I stayed
When it was getting obvious she was doing something offstream with her fans I stayed
When she banned the word trap and Futa and went all preachy, I forgave her.
And now that she has made it obvious she created a secret friend group of her fans, while ditching long time members for a twitter group my faith in her is losing. She had possibly less than 60 members watching her yesterday. So I ask, why shouldn’t I switch to a better oshi? how more should I wait for her to get better, when will she get better?

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>>32118773
>Ching chong ni-hao, you guys remember that I'm ASIAN right? [Insert abusive Chinese parenting story #287 here]
>Repeat 2x for every 60 minutes streamed
Um, anon?

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>>32100714
Maria you can at least argue brings the appeal of "a girl for aussie timezone" which they were previously lacking

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>>32125197
t. never watched Enna

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>>32097988
How else would you get the free for all niji jp experience? We need at least 3 other gens

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>>32125197
she acts white like every 2nd gen.