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Would you rather have Rust, Ark or Minecraft?
Alternatively pretend the talents are /here/ and suggest a long-term sustainable easy to get into group game.

>> No.32047740

I think Minecraft is the best because even if you are too pussy to play ark and rust properly and do ruthless tribal wars like Hololive are you can actually do visually interesting things in Minecraft using just creativity. Without people gang raping each other stuff like ark and rust are just boring and ugly.

>> No.32047836

all of holoen should play euiv victoria 2 together from start to end date.

>> No.32048186

Honestly, they're all getting stale, it's just Minecraft is still edible despite being left in the fridge for a long time.
Ark is basically just bread, give it a week.
Rust is some leftovers you don't remember when it existed, but doesn't look or smell too bad, but you're afraid of what it might taste like.

>> No.32048337

>>32047483
Whenever I watch an ARK stream, I can't understand shit.

>> No.32048483

>>32047483
I wanna watch cute girls play Civ 6 or Rimworld. All the chubas play games I can't give a single about.

>> No.32048511
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32048511

I want to see them play long Civ games
I want to see chuubas make alliances and raze each others' cities

>> No.32048589

These games are all a generation of more ahead of when I stopped getting much out of video games, so I get generally just skip all these. Not even sure what Rust and ARK are betond the genre name.
Mainly just stick to whoever is going over gen 6 titles, maybe some later computer stuff like TF2 or L4D as well.

>> No.32048595

>>32048483
>not civ 5

>> No.32048680

>>32048595
I started with Civ 6, and I just can't appreciate Civ 5.

>> No.32049009
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32049009

ARK is the worst, hand's down. For me Minecraft and Rust are comparable, but I've really been enjoying all the MiPol in Rust, so I'd put it first for now.

>> No.32049042

>>32047483
>long-term sustainable
>game
1) A game made by fans or cover, which copyrights belong to Cover.
2) The game is easily moddable. So the game will never run out of fresh content. Star Wars arc, Medieval arc, Spy Wars arc, Jurassic Park arc, City Roleplaying and etc,

Minecraft suits the criteria above the best, but it runs of content after a while. There countless mods but I wonder why Holos never play them

>> No.32049101

>>32049009
> I've really been enjoying all the MiPol in Rust
Same, mate.

>> No.32049627

>>32048337
I love ARK but nobody plays it the right way nor can explain the long term appeal

>> No.32049712

>>32047483
If we limit ourselves to those choices, anyone not answering minecraft is nuts. There's a reason the game has been popular for ages while shit like Rust is just fotm.

>> No.32049751
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32049751

I have a very good idea that no one has come up with, but i think will give hololive a much needed boost like Holocure: a fan-made Hypixel-esque Hololive mod for Minecraft

>> No.32049756

>>32048186
>American
>Food analogy

>> No.32049889

>>32047483
I want Conan Exiles

>> No.32049977

>>32047483
>Rust, Ark or Minecraft
I rather not watch a braindead everyday cartoon show.

>> No.32050082
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>>32047483
Minecraft, because it will always have infinite replayabilty even without any updates.

>> No.32050142

If Hololive is still doing well by the time it comes out, there will be a massive ARK 2 wave.

>> No.32050210

>>32048483
There's options but you're just gonna green text at me if I tell you.

>> No.32050222

>>32047483
I choose valorant.

>> No.32050434

>>32049042
Permissions for mods are apparently a bitch, I imagine besides getting the approval from anyone related to the mod, they probably have to get Mojang's (or Microsoft at this point idk) permission to stream their game WITH the mods...
And then vet the mod for anything they might not want on the stream, that bit is per Vesper talking about Zomboid mods I believe. So yeah typical JP corpo stuff the management probably doesn't even wanna try

>> No.32050591

>>32048483
>streams rimworld one time

>> No.32050829

>>32047483
Better still, figure out a way to convince more companies to not be braindead fucks about permissions.

>> No.32050902

>>32048511
>>32048483
>>32048595
None of the games in the "Civilization" series are good enough to stream more than twice.
Civ 4 is ugly and generic, without mass appeal.
Civ 5 doesn't manage incentives, and makes war unrewarding since you have to rely on non-binding agreements for anything worthwhile.
Civ 6 places too much emphasis on UNIQUENESS and yet still makes pure science rushes the entire meta. Devs are just winging the entire game instead of thinking anything through.
>>32047483
I'd recommend either a variant of EU4 with a ton of house rules, or Wargame: Red Dragon.

>> No.32050998

>>32050434
>asking also microsoft perms just to use certain mods

that's just too much autism, especially when most modders already explicitly states they're fine with their mods being used on streams. but then again i understand where they're coming from. i mean look at the fairly recent debacle of Rio streaming some VN from few weeks ago.

>> No.32051139

>>32050998
QRD on Rio's debacle? And yeah I agree but I think ever since some big companies gutted a bunch of archives thats why they are so careful with the permission shit

>> No.32051197

>>32051139
Big game companies, that is
>captcha: DAMNVP

>> No.32051261

>>32050902
All of them are fun if they're being played in a group casually with an emphasis on roleplay.

>> No.32051318

>>32051139
Hololive got full perms on streaming some VN, but the author of that VN gave Rio a youtube strike because apparently he streamed too much of it. the company was quick to apologize and the author was burned at social media for being a huge asshole.

>> No.32051369

>>32047483
I would prefer Minecraft with the Creat mod, or Valheim. The downside of Valheim though is that the updates seem to very infrequent.

>> No.32051452

>>32051261
I'm going to need you to define, "Fun", because I've tried to make those games enjoyable. They're really just not. Civ 5 has the best overall design, but it falls short of the mark, especially for a spectator game.
The Guild 2 Renaissance might be good to play though.

>> No.32051502 [DELETED] 

oh no baby talk taka...

>> No.32051544

>>32051318
See thats the kind of JP author schizo shit I hate, reminds me of one time a BL book author went off because Marine had used the book for a prank, I think on Miko? By putting it in the fridge or something.
But yes thats entirely why they're so strict with the permission shit

>> No.32051578

>>32047483
Space Station 13 hard mode - Heroes 3

>> No.32051634

>>32051544
>reminds me of
That was last week, anon.

>> No.32051865

>>32051452
What I mean is that you would need to play them more like a casual civilization simulator/sandbox rather than like a board game that's meant to be won.
As a spectator game, I think it would probably be fun for a few collabs, assuming that nobody is tryharding, and that people are treating it more as an actual roleplaying experience with treaties and alliances and stuff like that.

>> No.32051979

>>32051865
That'll fall off quickly. We need tightly-designed board games...

>> No.32052086

>>32051634
Marine and Miko's thing? Nah man that was over a year ago. It was because people clipped it out of context and made it seem like they were laughing at the contents of the book.

>> No.32052144

>>32051865
Stellaris is suited better for that since you get to customize your empire and people enitrely. Do some RP, invent a narrative, let your viewers worship you as a god emperor or something idk

>> No.32052207

>>32052086
>Nah man that was over a year ago.
Please slow time for me.

>> No.32052264

>>32052144
Stellaris would be good too, but it fills a bit of a different niche with it being sci-fi.

>> No.32052310

>>32050902
>Wargame: Red Dragon.
Kek no. God you're that EUGEN shill from a while back. That game is garbage.

>>32052144
Good luck figuring out the systems without hyper autism as those games are shit to watch even with people who know what's going on. To a newcomer it's utterly unintelligible.
You'd have more luck with DorfFort or Pick Your Factory Game of Choice.

>> No.32052397

>>32052207
I wish I could anon... I wish I could...

>> No.32052451

>>32052310
>Kek no. God you're that EUGEN shill from a while back.
Different guy.
>That game is garbage.
It's a lot of things, but it's not garbage.

>> No.32052531

>>32049756
Seethe

>> No.32052624

>>32051578
Literally what? I don't think you are gonna get much views out of a niche game like that

>> No.32052640

>>32052144 (me)
>>32052310
any idea how to make grand strategy or RTS in general more fun to watch? i'm thinking play it more slowly and verbally, maybe elements of crowd parcitipation

>> No.32052657

>>32051979
>We need tightly-designed board games...
Like what? Something more intricate than Monopoly?

>> No.32052681

good luck defending your ideas guys! (if it needs any defending)

>> No.32052969

>>32052640
Not possible. Unless you're doing a solo act and someone like Gramps from Stars EN do it since he's good at explaining shit as he's doing it.

>> No.32052984

>>32047483
The thing is Minecraft is fun ONLY when there's interaction between the girls, specially when said interaction is improvised and genuine, and not some "Oh look, Haachama is somewhere over there in the distance, how cute! Anyways, we won't talk about her for the rest of the stream and instead focus on building my lame ass statue of a fishing pole for 1 hour"

>> No.32053061

>>32052657
Yeah. We can actually afford more since the back end can be handled by the computer. Monopoly was just made to teach people about the housing market and illustrate a point about real estate. Games like Civilization and The Guild can get away with smaller mechanics since they'll be tracked and enforced by the game, regardless.
>>32052640
For Civ, less of a focus on rushing to the endgame. If you aren't engaging with your era in full, you shouldn't be able to rush through them.
For pretty much all historic games, you'd have to remove the emphasis on "CONQUEST AND DOMINATION TO BUILD YOUR EMPIRE" and actually make worthwhile obstacles that can't be addressed with massed infantry.

>> No.32053070

>>32049889
this, the slaving mechanics are so good

>> No.32053901

>>32048483
Marine did a few Rimworld streams last year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOTg7cvFfK8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joOcWGNigac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHETAAGZwe0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9CpyFFlAcM

I personally wanna watch some chuubas play Don't Starve Together

>> No.32053953

>>32047483
I rather have weird ass games no one ever heard of that could be interesting just to see what happens and retro games.

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>>32053953
The doggo used to play retro games but not so much now

>> No.32054054

>>32053901
You didn't see the EN girls play Don't starve together with the myth girls mod?

>> No.32054133

>>32054054
I don't usually watch EN so no, but that's a cool thing to know about

>> No.32054370

>>32052531
Lose weight

>> No.32055271

>>32047483
they could just play more mahjong

>> No.32056264

Valheim would be fun, there's not as much in terms of creativity like minecraft but certainly alot more than Rust when it comes to building. Was kind of hoping for it to pick up steam when Watame and Botan were streaming it, but it got smothered by the Rust ark sadly

>> No.32056690

>>32047483
No Man's Sky
I wanna see the colonisation of HoloGalaxy

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