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31975315 No.31975315 [Reply] [Original]

>let's create a bridge between EN and JP
*one year later*
>yeah, let's burn that bridge

>> No.31975889

well fans are kind of annoying so i can kinda understand

>> No.31976077

Isnt it the opposite?
>>let's create a bridge between EN and JP
>stops after one MV and cringe collab
*one year later*
>starts trying again (new umisea hologra, suma festibaru, garbo appearing in 3d lives)
we'll see if it continues. probably not. LOL

>> No.31976274

>>31976077
I think the point OP is ham-fistedly trying to make is that Ina and Gura were more or less foisted out of Umisea for chloe to join instead.

>> No.31976327

>>31976077
It all depends on if the EN branch wants to do it

>> No.31976335
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31976335

>>31976274
wad?

>> No.31976364

>no smash bros style reveal trailer for chloe joining umisea
WHY

>> No.31976372

>>31975315
>Hologra
>New song
>Will do 3D live
>burn the bridge
What?

>> No.31976406

this is objectively way funnier than EN collab whining but everyone just wants the easy bait

>> No.31976413

Bring back Commodore Perry.

>> No.31976415

>>31976372
I think OP is saying he's a pedophile who's attracted to real life kids

>> No.31976492

>>31976415
Sou desu ne~

>> No.31976557

>>31976335
EN had a grand total of what, 14 words in the entire song?

>> No.31976589

>>31976557
23

>> No.31976829

when is moona joining umisea?

>> No.31977119

>>31976589
Those 12-hour recording sessions really paid off.

>> No.31977136

>>31976335
>Get literally written out half the episode in
>get barely any time in the song itself
And you're coping hard if you think there will be a continuation to this episode, summer is over and the song was the main point for getting the group back

>> No.31977192

>>31976335
and how much screen time does gura and ina have in that song retard?
how much lines do they have retard?
how does the ending animation look like retard?
Retard.

>> No.31977295

>>31976829
Moona/Risu/Towa/Suisei unit soon.
Nah, just kidding Suisei is busy making songs with Mori.

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31977404

>>31977295
Calli "chan" is cool, because she's a white girl and not black. And she makes raps that I cannot understand. Yup.

>> No.31977638

Forced corpo shit

>> No.31977735

This is what happens when you force a group without any chemistry between the members.

>> No.31977809

>>31977192
>he speaks like a nijinigger.
the real fan like me are contented that my oshi didn't get crammed into some botched craftsmanship with no creative control whatsoever

>> No.31977853

>>31977735
Its literally impossible for them to have chemistry. They dont speak the same language

>> No.31977858

>>31977735
They don't even need chemistry, they at least need to participate.

>> No.31978073

>>31977853
this was debunked when Altare and Vesper collabed with Astel. The girls have just never tried.

>> No.31978074

>>31977735
>>31977853
like trying to make a molecule out of atoms and poopoo

>> No.31978143

>>31977853
Exactly my point. Marine sees Gura as nothing more than a cute baby, because they can't have a conversation, and Aqua don't even talk with members from her own Gen let alone overseas folks.

>> No.31978391

>>31977809
this is exactly what happened here though

>> No.31978721

>>31975315
>yeah, let's burn that bridge
Make sure to torch it from the bottom up so it can't be rebuilt.

>> No.31978777

>>31975315
BROUGHT TOGETHER BY:
>An onion girl who never streams anymore
>A woman who's a walking sick note, owie my throat hurts again
>A person who spends more time drawing for chinese gacha games
>Someone who doesn't even speak the language

>> No.31978944

>>31977404
NO SHE IS REAL SHE IS EATING A BORGER IN FRONT OF ME NO I DONT NEED MEDS

>> No.31978970

>>31975315
>Last year song was trash
>it was blamed on EN because Aqua and Marine can't do no wrong
>This year song was trash
>???
Who the fuck do you blame now? It was clearly not EN, they were barely in it.

>> No.31979055

>>31976829
after she answers our DMs

>> No.31979125

>>31978970
I vote to put the blame on Gura and Ina again

>> No.31979354

>>31978970
wasn't it the same dude who produced marine's new original?

>> No.31979682

I just hope we get to see more Ina tentacle loving Marine art.

>> No.31979715

>>31978970
>>31979354
Yeah it's Camellia. He also made Treasure Box, Dead on Arrival, Play dice. All of those are way better than the UMISEA garbage.
The only explanation I can think of is that Cover are directing the song as producers so it comes out as that cacophonic garbage.

>> No.31979872

>>31977853
>he doesn't know pekomoon

>> No.31979937

>>31978970
gura cant sing
>>31979715
i was shocked when i heard it was camellia song was trash

>> No.31980063

>>31975315
>>31976274
To everyone who keeps posting this shit: You do realize they set this up as a series and you're all going to look like fucking idiots when the next episode comes out, right? I know you won't suffer personally thanks to anonymity but you could be doing anything else with this time, maybe even watching streams.

>> No.31980226

>>31980063
>EN
>streams

>> No.31980251

If they wanted Umisea to work AT ALL they needed someone like Coco involved in producing it. The VA from gura and ina literally seemed like they had zero direction and didn't even know the context of their lines and whoever wrote it had zero idea of who gura and ina are as established vtubers. The song that was made was just insanely bad. I have no idea how that bad of a song was okayed. That would have been embarrassing for an indie person to make with zero pay. Adding chloe was the only chance to possibly salvage the group at all since Aqua was worse than useless in their minecraft stream and gura while kyoooooot knows less JP than me. It's honestly fucked that the first inclusion of EN with JP is so poorly done because the JP people working on it have literal zero interest in the EN. And I say this as an EN hater.

>> No.31980408

>>31980063
>You do realize they set this up as a series and you're all going to look like fucking idiots when the next episode comes out, right?
Or you will look like one when there is no continuation or it keeps shoving gura and ina to the side

>> No.31980458

>>31980408
they shove gura and ina to the side because the deepL translator they used broke.

>> No.31980712

>>31980063
You do realize that the outrage is everywhere from /here/ to Reddit, Twitter, YT comments etc, right?
And yes some people do realize that. The only reason people didn't go nuclear about that right away is because we're waiting to see what's to come. But honestly only a Seasea duet with Ina and Gura could change anything to the situation.
Because no matter how you look this was not a smart move from Cover. People are getting fed up of EN being treated like second zone citizens. It doesn't matter if it's included in a series of ungoing event, it's a bad look right now.

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31980889

>>31976335
Meanwhile, on the thumbnail itself...

>> No.31981060

>>31975315
Where's Kobo? She's literally SEA and sea

>> No.31981082

>>31980408
Yes anon I'm sure they left it on a cliffhanger to not have a continuation even though the first round of Umisea was episodic, what a genius you are.

>>31980712
I never claimed that /vt/ had a monopoly on retardation, though it does have a surplus of it.

>> No.31981134

>>31980251
I actually have a rrat about this:
Marine was the one who created UMISEA but after Coco's graduation she lost all her motivation.
That's why the project is so half-assed.

>> No.31981236

>>31981082
retard, the first one were animations not songs. this is just a short mv. there is no promise of any continuation except the long version in which ina and gura don't have any more lines either.

>> No.31981284

>>31978970
I recall people blaming EN for their line deliveries on the shorts being kinda shit but not for the song.
The song being awful has nothing to do with any of the performers it's all on the composer.

>> No.31981578

>>31981060
Holy fuck, where do you retards keep coming from? Rainwater is fresh water, not saltwater. But you my friend can go drink salt water for all I care.

>> No.31981595

>>31981134
I'd have to check dates for that to make any sense since obviously the umisea planning would have started long before the first release of shorts.. it is possible they started umisea stuff before coco had told them she was graduating and then after being told that marine didn't give a shit, but marine has also had the best performances by far in all the umisea shit.

>> No.31981647

>>31981578
rainwater is not safe to drink anymore.

>> No.31981690

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFgUluV_00s
this song has soul

>> No.31981756

>>31981236
Are you telling me you're stirring up all this shit and you didn't see that there was an animation too, or are you just that sure that they could only put out one MV in a year and put a cliffhanger ending on the accompanying animation anyway?

>> No.31982267

>>31981756
bruh stop acting dumb
who are you holo intern?
it's clear they are shoving away gura and ina even though they were part of the original unit which was meant to bring together en and jp fanbases and talents alike. This MV didnt do a good job at that. The opposite actually. Stop being delusional. We can judge the mv for what it is already with or without a continuation.

>> No.31982382

>>31976415
Yeah, that’s the impression I got as well.

>> No.31982850

>>31980063
Summer is over anon... There's no next episode, and the song already released, there's no point for more pushing for this group

>> No.31982856

>>31981578
Okay lore nerd lmao

>> No.31982971

>>31980063
>You do realize they set this up as a series
Cover ain't subtle when more is coming they'll straight up say. At best Ina and Gura will turn up in the upcoming Live and it will be sort of played as an end to the story.

>>31981134
I think people should give up on the cope Marine is deeply involved with this. It hangs entirely on her once saying she'd like to do something with them. But she never had the pull to make management do all of this.

>> No.31983121

>>31981578
Where do you think saltwater comes from?

>> No.31983173

>>31980889
love new umisea

>> No.31983229

>>31982971
>But she never had the pull to make management do all of this.
I would believe this if it was about any other member but not Marine.
Not after I'm your treasure box. The same producer is even involved in both.

>> No.31983406

what would be a jp-en collab group with actual potential?

>> No.31983494

>>31983229
>Not after I'm your treasure box.
Do you really not understand the difference between her paying for her own video. And forcing management to arrange a week long event, with 5 shorts, song, collabs and then next year getting a HoloGra with another song? We've even had a new member pushed in just in time for a live performance. Corporate units ain't a new thing for hololive.

>>31983406
There are already a few cross branch friendship groups. No need to make everything official. If anything that ruins the fun.

>> No.31983584

>>31982971
>I think people should give up on the cope Marine is deeply involved with this.
Didn't Marine herself say she was the one who came up with umisea?

>> No.31983644

>>31983406
needs subaru as a bare minimum. chloe or lui would also work, the JP members that actually have any interest in EN. EN outside of Gura is shit and she has no interest in knowing any JP. The EN members that are already proficient in JP makes it not feel at all like EN / JP collab so don't bother talking about that.

>> No.31983647

>>31983494
she literally did that.

>> No.31984067

>>31977404
NGL it would be funny if learning English changed her perception of Calli and forced her to find a new oshi.
She goes with Kiara after she releases some shitty German rap and the cycle repeats

>> No.31984203

>>31975315
I'm still amazed that soo many people just accepted it because cover made a "lore reason" like wtf are you really this easy to manipulate? Is literally just cover being smart because they don't want to deal with recordings from the other side of the world

>> No.31984299

>>31984203
It's very unlikely that they all got together to record this song together being on the "other side of the world" doesn't matter for recording a shit song like this. Also the "new song" is fucking horrible. They really need to abort umisea whoever was in charge of it is such a fucking retard it's crazy.

>> No.31984501

>>31975315
>let's burn that bridge
Learn to keep up Updatechama

>> No.31984644

>>31975315
multiculturalism doesn't work

>> No.31984645

>>31983229
>>31983494
>>31983647
Holos get to make big requests as rewards for certain milestones, most notably 1 and 2 million subs, can't say past that because they take a long time to get through the pipeline and haven't caught up with Gura.
Treasure Box was one of those, I'm pretty sure Calli's solo concert was too but don't quote me on that. In any case management did help out with Treasure Box as Marine's 1m reward.

>> No.31984833

>>31984645
where is gura's 4 millie reward

>> No.31984861

>>31984645
What were Gura's requests anyways?

>> No.31984960

>>31984861
Dunno, I'm not a chumbud. They don't label them or anything so you usually only find out what they asked for through their zatsus.

>> No.31986293

>>31984645
>Treasure Box as Marine's 1m reward
No its not retard. Her 1 million award was her Esdeath 3D outfit.

>> No.31987005
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31987005

>>31983406
They should make Holotori official, or else

>> No.31987081

>>31984645
also Miko's cafe

>> No.31987607

>>31980251
>since Aqua was worse than useless in their minecraft stream
But Aqua hard carried that collab, if it weren't for her taking the leader position that stream would have been another shit show like the previous one.

>> No.31988880

>>31984645
no it wasnt retard
treasure box was literally produced by her and paid by her. she talked about this. why are you talking shit if you dont even know yourself?

>> No.31989088

>>31987607
true that.

>> No.31990218

>>31983406
Holotori (without mumei). Because it has non autistic holos that are able to speak to each other without it devolving into an autistic sperg fit or heaven forbid, going full Mori.

>> No.31990264

>>31990218
JP / EN group is meaningless if they're just all very good at the minimum in JP.

>> No.31990401

>>31987005
literal armpit pussy

>> No.31990479

>>31983644
>Gura is shit and she has no interest in knowing any JP
Gura's actually doing her reps, though you are right in that the JPs that have a interest in Gura doesn't really seem to be too interested in the other EN members

>> No.31990771

>>31990479
it seems more like she grinded some duolinguo for like a week and will not retain literally anything and not improve.

>> No.31991006

>>31979715
He did Myth's Image songs before everything you mentioned. After the first Umisea I thought the dude just couldn't work with vocals before Play Dice.

>> No.31991252

>>31990771
That's not whats happening, she mentioned it first in a member post but I'm pretty sure she said on stream as well that she's going to a JP teacher for a whole semester or so, she's been cramming Japanese which is why she's been more curious about it recently like at the summer festival asking Bae if she's correct etc

>> No.31991325

>>31984645
Every single one of those is wrong. Also
>Calli

>> No.31991360

>>31976364
This is the true crime here

>> No.31991412

whores don't deserve a bridge.

>> No.31991576

>>31976557
>>31976589
Scaled according to size of branches and number of audience. Maybe.

>> No.31991765

>>31978073
>The girls have just never tried.
You are crazy. The girls had a lot corporate mandate collabs before. They just can't communicate. They tried.

>> No.31992080

>>31983406
Holotori could go far if Kiara and Subaru started pushing for it more and Cover would have some serious egg on their face if they tried pulling that with just Subaru and Lui. HoloDeath would have probably been an official thing if Rushia didn't do what she did.

>> No.31992196

>>31991006
I know, he also made Scuffed up age and Huge W for Mori. I wasn't being exhaustive.
But I was the same as you are. I discovered him with the UMIshit and thought he was just an horrible producer

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31992473

>>31992080
>HoloDeath

>> No.31992606

>>31992473
I can understand the hate for the green and pink but what did Ollie ever do to hurt Hololive?
She's the biggest Holo simp there is and is inoffensive

>> No.31995066

>>31984833
Her reward was not having to stream anymore.

>> No.31995171

>>31992606
reps or go back

>> No.31995417

>>31975315
Gura and Ina can't speak Japanese.

>> No.31995840

>>31978073
Except Astel's english is way better than Aqua or Marine's.

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31996007

>aqua, marine, gura, ina fans are happy.
>other holowatchers and nijinigs seeth
gotta love it lmao

>> No.31996174

>>31996007
>gura, ina fans are happy.
Wrong. There are many unhappy fans across the internet the lack of time given to them in the song and then replacing them with Chloe.

>> No.31996269

>>31976557
>14 words
based

>> No.31996523

>>31978970
Aqua kept getting multiple concerts, 3D lives and multitude of multimedia projects including game collaborations and her own goddamn videogames.
Marine doing pretty much the same with the added bonus of making some of The Best music videos that any vtuber have ever done. Easily now at the top of best artists in the genre thanks to her social skills linking her to the best people in the business.
Both streaming numbers are always between 20 to 40k, never waving. How is at fault again?

>> No.31996528

Why is Cover so racist?

>> No.31996701

>>31992473
God, I wish Calli and Ollie go to Vshoujo and set a hot sex party with Nazuna while the party hosted by TT and Ironmouse

>> No.31996940

>>31977735
?
aqua and marine have great chemistry
and chloe is a whore and aqua likes whores

>> No.31997084

>>31996523
What does that have to do anything with the songs being bad?

>> No.31997366

So let me get this straight, Cover finally throws a bone to the secondary branch and *somehow* this is "le bad" and "it's over" because reasons? How much idiot pills did you all take? A goddamn overdose in this place.
>>31997084
uhm? Bad acording to who? What is the metric here? Because buddy, the gook hates her voice and the chubby is still learning the language.

>> No.31997494

>>31976077
I think it's more like
>let's create a bridge between EN and JP
>lets also creat a distinct JP only version of Umisea so we don't need to use that bridge

>> No.31997629

>its another episode of antis proving they have no idea what they're talking about
And oh boy do I hate reruns

>> No.31998054

>>31975315
It's been two years since Gura joined Hololive and she still doesn't have a basic understanding of Japanese. She didn't even know how to say the number 14 last night.

>> No.31998079

>>31996007
>aqua fans are happy
I'm not happy

>> No.31998407

>>31997366
I got no idea what you even talking about. You seriously putting the blame on EN?

>> No.31999944

>>31997629
nice projection faggot

>> No.32001005

>>31996523
the song is trash because of the composer. Whoever wrote that song is a fucking retard because it's terrible. You could get the greatest singers of all time and it's still going to sound like shit.

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